[RBW] Summer sale
Out with the old... well, actually, not very old at all. The following items are in new to nearly new condition. The oldest of which has only seen a 50 miles of use at most. MKS Touring pedals $25 Velo Orange - CX Canti brakes. This is a complete set having been installed and used for less than a month. $30 Charge Spoon saddle, black leather cover with titanium rails - with minute marks on the rails where the seatpost clamp attaches and a scuff on the small charge logo. 240g and only $40. http://www.chargebikes.com/products/parts/spoon.php# PayPal preferred. Shipping extra. Ron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] A supposedly fun thing I'll never do again...
on 8/2/10 4:59 PM, Mike at mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: ... Larch Mountain on my Quickbeam from my house in Portland. About 80 or so miles round trip. The 14 mile climb up to Larch Mountain went by smoothly enough for the first 10 miles but the last 4 miles were rough, much tougher than anticipated. Still, I managed and got to take in some great views from Sherrard Pt. at the summit. I'll probably ride up there once more before the end of summer but doubt I'll do it on the Quickbeam. Here are some photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157624516053177/ Ha! I've said things like that before, but then you realize that the mountain is the same and you start wondering, hmmI wonder if it's easier or harder now...? Great images. Thanks for sharing. The mountain is calling... ;^) - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. Mahatma Gandhi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Camping/Biking around Minneapolis area
On Aug 3, 1:54 am, John Blish jbl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi John, If you include north of town there is camping at Bunker Hills Park http://www.anokacountyparks.com/camping/default.htm in Coon Rapids. My recollection is that it is $15 a night and that includes showers and flush toilets. There is nothing special about the campground and nothing wrong with it either. There is a good water park nearby in the Bunker Hills Park but those folks don't have any reason to come into the campground and they do not. The campground is not far from the Coon Rapids Dam where several multi-use trails meet, including one I often take down the WEST side of the Mississippi to I-694 where I cross over to the EAST side. To do that you would go south from the campground to the dam and cross the spillway at the dam and then head south from there. It is about 20 miles to the heart of downtown Minneapolis from there. There are some twists and turns in this route that are not all obvious to the first-time user. Depending on when you might be here I might be able to provide further information. For now I can't help much. I leave early Thursday for an 850 mile round trip tour to a family reunion - back on about Aug 19 or so. Good luck. Use Google map and get in touch with the campground folks if that looks like a possibility. -jb On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:04 AM, JB baile...@voyager.net wrote: Does anyone know of a campground in the Minneapolis area where a guy could drive to and then bike into the city on a bike trail? I may be visiting friends later in the year and would like to camp, but would want to leave my truck at the campsite and travel by bike while there. I'llThanks John, I'll check it out. I won't be going till, at least, September and possibly the end of October. I'll be in Greece the last part of Sept. and first part of October, so, I'll make the trip on either end. I know I'm pushing the weather a bit, but I live in Michigan and know the routine for cold. Right now, the timing of the trip depends more on work than anything else. I've got a lot of time right now and that could, possibly, change. John John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data
Exactly. Sometimes we really get hung up on bike weight and for me it makes very little difference, they all are close enough. The intangible difference is probably the degree of climbing each bike averages. They range from 40' to 60' average elv gain per mile. From: cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, August 2, 2010 8:37:39 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data I am betting it is not the weight of the bikes-- or only to a very small degree. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?
OK, Pondero, for what it's worth, here's my stick figure: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/4856880566/ I realize the lines are not dark enough to see all that clearly. I merely guessed at tubing diameters. I think I put the downtube too low where it hits the headtube, so the front wheel is closer to the downtube than it really would be in real life. Doing this excercise made me realize that the downtube and lower head lug are the very last thing to fall in to place. They just end up where they end up. Numbers: My PBH: 87cm ST length 58cm c-to-t Virtual TT length 58cm HT and ST angles 72 Trail 60mm with 584x41 tire Standover 840mm with 584x41tire TT upslope 2 degrees Bartops and saddle level with saddle height at 75cm and Nitto Pearl stem If I get this built, it'll be 130mm spaced. I'll have fender braze ons, and a way to mount a handlebar bag support. Now all I need to do to be ready for PBP 2015 is ride 20,000km! On Aug 2, 10:44 am, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! Now scan it and show the rest of us. It's critique time. Seriously, your approach sounds exactly like what I would do, and I'd love to see it. On Aug 2, 12:35 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I went ahead and worked ahead. Grant had us up to seat tube angle. I did chainstay next, and then seat tube length, which allowed me to connect the dots for my seatstays. Then I marked my saddle height and drew a level line from the saddle to the front end. I knew I wanted to be able to get the bars and saddle level with a Nitto Pearl stem. I ended up with a slightly sloping top tube (more slope than a Hilsen, less than a Bomba/Hillborne) and still had my standover at a comfortable level. Then I dropped the headtube angle to the ground and pulled back the trail, which positioned my front hub and established fork rake. I went ahead with the compass and spun the wheels in, and from that marked where I want the brake bridges. I kind of guessed where the downtube meets the headtube. But the thing is drawn. It's basically a slightly modified 58cm 650B Hilsen/ Saluki. On Jul 28, 10:00 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I think Laney College here in Oakland did aframebuilding class, as well as The Crucible, which is a vocational arts school with every kind of heat based trade (glass, welding, blacksmithing, etc). Maybe I should look into that. On Jul 27, 9:08 pm, Bill Gibson bill.bgib...@gmail.com wrote: I took a welding class (Welding for Artists, or something like that) at the local community college a few years ago and got to try everything and developed instant respect for the simplest welds in my life. I got to try both gas and electric and gas brazing and plasma cutting, and it's on my list. But teaching school science starting last week, 6 weeks too soon for me -maybe it's time to retire and ride and make bikes and whittle spoons and kuksas...need to gather school supplies... On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Steve sring...@gmail.com wrote: I did this: signed up for a framebuilding class, measured my youngest son who needed a good road bike, and built a virtual clone of my Rambouillet. The only change I made was to increase the fender clearance slightly under the headtube and the seat stay bridge since my Ram frankly runs at the minimum usable clearance with 28mm tires. The lugged bike turned out to be spectacular: it handles, if you can believe this, slightly better than the Ram (although I suspect that my handling test was biased due to less weight in the front bag). No matter; he loves the bike. I spent about twelve Sundays building this and loved every minute of it. If you can spare the time and cash, do it. Steve Ames, IA On Jul 27, 1:25 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Grant is apparently going to teach us how todrawa bikeframein his little step by step way. I'm going to follow along. I want a custom framethat somewhat resembles a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hilsen. The critical differences will be that I want it 130mm spaced and want it to be a lighter frameset. I don't know if I'll ever get this frameset made, or whether it will be a Rivendell or an Ebisu or a Davidson or something else. But I'm looking forward to drawing it. I've done a fair amount of drafting table work in Engineering school, but never went ahead and drew a bike. Looking forward to it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. --
[RBW] Re: Who's riding RAGBRAI?
Ken, you are a monster. I bow down to you . . . Seriously, bravo! -- Forrest On Aug 2, 9:45 pm, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: I saw and briefly met Kelly on his very handsome and stylish Quickbeam. Spotted another Atlantis and a few Rambouillet. Had a fantastic tour on my Atlantis. Managed to ride from Faribault, MN to Sioux City, IA to join in the fun of RAGBRAI for 4 days, then rode back home. Finished up 761 miles in 8 days of riding. The Atlantis was set up with Nitto racks front and rear, Arkel bags all around and a Wald basket zip tied up front for miscellaneous. For those of you curious, the bike without bags but with racks, fenders, and basket = 42 pounds. Empty bags added another 9 pounds. I traveled with 36 pounds of clothing, food, tent, sleeping bag, sleeping pad, tools, etc. Total loaded bicycle = 87 pounds plus another 180 pounds of rider. My days were Faribault, MN to Saint James, MN 100 Paullina, IA 137 Sioux City, IA 85 Storm Lake, IA 70 Algona, IA 81 Clear Lake, IA 62 Charles City, IA 54 Roseville, MN 172 On Jul 21, 3:05 pm, Kelly kingtw...@gmail.com wrote: I'm getting packed up for the drive out to Iowa and thought I'd ask, who's ridingRagbrai? This will be my first time ridingRagbrai, and I'm very excited. I'll be riding my orange Quickbeam, and this seems the best year to do it. The main two gearing combinations I'll be using are 40 x 15 and 32 x 15. I'll also have the 32 x 18 on the flip side if I really need it the last day. Who else is ridingRagbrai? I'm hoping to see quite a few Rivendells on the ride. Any last minute suggestions from veteranRagbrairiders? Thanks, and I'll see you on the route! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bag Repair in Seattle
The zipper on my Hobo bag broke on tour last summer and I'm hoping to get it replaced. Anyone have any leads on someone or someplace that'll do that sort of job? Ideally in the Seattle area but I'd send it out to somebody if I had to. thanks, Robert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bag Repair in Seattle
I can't say specifically for the Seattle area, but I'd look to sailbag makers or folks who specialize in canvas work for boats. I've had a couple of Filson bags repaired here locally by a woman whose business is the former. You need someone with a sewing machine that can go through that stuff. Also, you might make sure are using waxed thread (or some type of analog) so that the stitching doesn't act like a wick in the rain. hope that helps! - Jim On Jul 29, 2:08 pm, Robert Kirkpatrick spiralc...@gmail.com wrote: The zipper on my Hobo bag broke on tour last summer and I'm hoping to get it replaced. Anyone have any leads on someone or someplace that'll do that sort of job? Ideally in the Seattle area but I'd send it out to somebody if I had to. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?
You've got to expect the odd number mishap! I had various versions, broken down into different-sized steps. Sorrya bout dat. All I can assure you is that in general, the numbers will get larger, more or less, as the lesson progresses. If all goes according to plan. Sidebar to all this: I'm working on a custom design now that is more challenging than most, and my CAD program wasn't giving me all the answers I wanted. It's not AutoCad, and I know AutoCad would have, but it's what I got and it's good for lots of things and exactness, but in this one instance my pencil drawing told me something my Caddy didn't...because I could extend lines and see angles differently. Plus, it is slighly more satisfying. Then back to Caddy for the final. In the real world where I live, where I design a frame in all its sizes for production, I send my drawings or numbers (derived from them) off to the maker-maker, and they have their own drawing programs. They put the info into theirs, send back drawings for review etc, and so smother mine...except that theirs are just their interpretation of mine, and then if the numbers are right, it's a go. I think Tarek mentioned something like this in the old Bstone catalogue. Scary memory, but yes. This one will be more complete, especially at the fork area. That's a trickier part, and is especially tricker with lugs...but I'm not going to go into all the details there. Not that important, and the thing we're doing here will still have served its purpose. Which isI'm not sure. No harm is the goal! G G On Aug 2, 6:25 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: OK...that says step 3 on it so I assume it is just a number mishap. On Aug 2, 8:39 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Step 4 was seat tube angle: http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/336/original_n4_seat_tube_angl... On Aug 2, 5:37 pm, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Did I miss step 4 somewhere? I had the PDF with step 3 and then the next one was step 5. Was that just an error? On Aug 2, 1:44 pm, Pondero cj.spin...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! Now scan it and show the rest of us. It's critique time. Seriously, your approach sounds exactly like what I would do, and I'd love to see it. On Aug 2, 12:35 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I went ahead and worked ahead. Grant had us up to seat tube angle. I did chainstay next, and then seat tube length, which allowed me to connect the dots for my seatstays. Then I marked my saddle height and drew a level line from the saddle to the front end. I knew I wanted to be able to get the bars and saddle level with a Nitto Pearl stem. I ended up with a slightly sloping top tube (more slope than a Hilsen, less than a Bomba/Hillborne) and still had my standover at a comfortable level. Then I dropped the headtube angle to the ground and pulled back the trail, which positioned my front hub and established fork rake. I went ahead with the compass and spun the wheels in, and from that marked where I want the brake bridges. I kind of guessed where the downtube meets the headtube. But the thing is drawn. It's basically a slightly modified 58cm 650B Hilsen/ Saluki. On Jul 28, 10:00 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I think Laney College here in Oakland did aframebuilding class, as well as The Crucible, which is a vocational arts school with every kind of heat based trade (glass, welding, blacksmithing, etc). Maybe I should look into that. On Jul 27, 9:08 pm, Bill Gibson bill.bgib...@gmail.com wrote: I took a welding class (Welding for Artists, or something like that) at the local community college a few years ago and got to try everything and developed instant respect for the simplest welds in my life. I got to try both gas and electric and gas brazing and plasma cutting, and it's on my list. But teaching school science starting last week, 6 weeks too soon for me -maybe it's time to retire and ride and make bikes and whittle spoons and kuksas...need to gather school supplies... On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Steve sring...@gmail.com wrote: I did this: signed up for a framebuilding class, measured my youngest son who needed a good road bike, and built a virtual clone of my Rambouillet. The only change I made was to increase the fender clearance slightly under the headtube and the seat stay bridge since my Ram frankly runs at the minimum usable clearance with 28mm tires. The lugged bike turned out to be spectacular: it handles, if you can believe this, slightly better than the Ram (although I suspect that my handling test was biased due to less weight in the front bag). No
[RBW] Re: Who's riding RAGBRAI?
Thanks for the support, compliments. No monster, I'd much prefer the saddle and handlebar of a bike for 10 hours a day than my office chair and a keyboard. This was the 15th or 16th year of having done similar trips. Many have been longer, some shorter. I'd like to take longer trips, but time is a constraint. I would have liked to wrap up the rest of the week of RAGBRAI and come home up the river. One of my favorite moments on the trip was a stop out in the middle of nowhere. No cars, nothing but a light cool morning breeze and the birds. I sat down in the grass for a while to rest and could have easily taken a nap. http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/4qxHwitk6FxBcRzwmijshw?feat=directlink The basket up front was one of my favorite features. I used it to dry my laundry, hold my map, hold an extra beverage (or several.) I met up with some friends and became known as the bar bike. On one particular day, we were riding late in the day and people were handing up free 32 ounce bottles of sports drink. I became the holding area for my fellow riders: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2pMFDXvURkm9OwhAH5cUeQ?feat=directlink The next morning, I carried two jars of pickles, a jar of garlic stuffed olives, two bottles of bloody mary mix, and the fresh celery in the basket. One of my riding partners (also riding self contained) carried the 25 pound bag of ice. We then had a little morning treat for 10 with breakfast at the FarmBoys stop about 10 miles out of Clear Lake. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bag Repair in Seattle
REI in Seattle uses Rainy Pass Repair. I can't vouch for them but you could give them a call. jim m wc ca On Jul 29, 2:08 pm, Robert Kirkpatrick spiralc...@gmail.com wrote: The zipper on my Hobo bag broke on tour last summer and I'm hoping to get it replaced. Anyone have any leads on someone or someplace that'll do that sort of job? Ideally in the Seattle area but I'd send it out to somebody if I had to. thanks, Robert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A supposedly fun thing I'll never do again...
Looks like an awesome ride. Jealous, we don't have any long climbs around here in the midwest, though I do enjoy some good rollers. On Aug 2, 6:59 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: ... Larch Mountain on my Quickbeam from my house in Portland. About 80 or so miles round trip. The 14 mile climb up to Larch Mountain went by smoothly enough for the first 10 miles but the last 4 miles were rough, much tougher than anticipated. Still, I managed and got to take in some great views from Sherrard Pt. at the summit. I'll probably ride up there once more before the end of summer but doubt I'll do it on the Quickbeam. Here are some photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157624516053177/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A supposedly fun thing I'll never do again...
Sounds fun! Inquiring minds want to know: Did you shift? jim m wc ca On Aug 2, 4:59 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: ... Larch Mountain on my Quickbeam from my house in Portland. About 80 or so miles round trip. The 14 mile climb up to Larch Mountain went by smoothly enough for the first 10 miles but the last 4 miles were rough, much tougher than anticipated. Still, I managed and got to take in some great views from Sherrard Pt. at the summit. I'll probably ride up there once more before the end of summer but doubt I'll do it on the Quickbeam. Here are some photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/sets/72157624516053177/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Bag Repair in Seattle
As Jim said, go to Rainy Pass. http://rainypass.com/ They've done a LOT of stuff for me over the years, including customizing a motorcycle tank bag, adding heavy duty zippers to m/c pants, repairing those pants later (:(), and repairing a down sleeping bag a couple times. You have to be specific about what you want if you're doing something out of the ordinary--I wouldn't say they are designers, particularly. Rob in Seattle On Jul 29, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Robert Kirkpatrick wrote: The zipper on my Hobo bag broke on tour last summer and I'm hoping to get it replaced. Anyone have any leads on someone or someplace that'll do that sort of job? Ideally in the Seattle area but I'd send it out to somebody if I had to. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Daruma Bolt Question
Wondering if anybody else has had this problem with the daruma fork crown bolt that comes with some Honjo fenders. Basically, the daruma includes a rubber washer that seals against the bottom of the fork crown; a metal fender washer sits between the rubber washer and the fender. After I installed the fenders and got in some miles in the rain, I noticed that the rubber washer was sealing the bottom of the fork crown and preventing water that got in there from draining out. In fact, the water was migrating upward (the only way it could go, really) and escaping around the stem. I checked with Velo Orange, who sold me the fenders, and they said they hadn't heard of this problem before, but that it could perhaps be remedied by drilling a hole through the washers. Has anybody else had this problem, and if so, how did you fix it? I'm concerned about water being trapped inside the steerer (I drained everything by disassembling the fender mount, but that's a pain to do on a regular basis). Thanks in advance. --Eric Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Daruma Bolt Question
I drill/file a notch into the fender and rubber washer and rotate it towards the rear of the bike to allow for proper drainage. Also, the setup is fork crown, rubber washer, fender, small petal washer, locknut. By doing it your way (rubber against the crown) it likely provided an even better seal. Hope this helps, Clayton On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Wondering if anybody else has had this problem with the daruma fork crown bolt that comes with some Honjo fenders. Basically, the daruma includes a rubber washer that seals against the bottom of the fork crown; a metal fender washer sits between the rubber washer and the fender. After I installed the fenders and got in some miles in the rain, I noticed that the rubber washer was sealing the bottom of the fork crown and preventing water that got in there from draining out. In fact, the water was migrating upward (the only way it could go, really) and escaping around the stem. I checked with Velo Orange, who sold me the fenders, and they said they hadn't heard of this problem before, but that it could perhaps be remedied by drilling a hole through the washers. Has anybody else had this problem, and if so, how did you fix it? I'm concerned about water being trapped inside the steerer (I drained everything by disassembling the fender mount, but that's a pain to do on a regular basis). Thanks in advance. --Eric Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa
I'm happy to BART across the bay, head up through Marin. Or any other way you have fallen in love with. It would be nice avoid huge trucks, mondo hills and traveling way out of the way as much as possible. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Daruma Bolt Question
On Aug 3, 2:01 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Wondering if anybody else has had this problem with the daruma fork crown bolt that comes with some Honjo fenders. Basically, the daruma includes a rubber washer that seals against the bottom of the fork crown; a metal fender washer sits between the rubber washer and the fender. After I installed the fenders and got in some miles in the rain, I noticed that the rubber washer was sealing the bottom of the fork crown and preventing water that got in there from draining out. In fact, the water was migrating upward (the only way it could go, really) and escaping around the stem. Yeah, this can be a problem with the daruma setup. I've noticed increased condensation and surface rust inside the steer tube of bikes that use this setup (I've since cleaned them thoroughly, sprayed a rust preventative in the tube, and inspect annually). Though, I do think that you have the parts arranged incorrectly, which would exasperate this issue. From the fender crown downward, the metal fender washer should be installed, then the rubber washer, then the fender. The metal washer doesn't provide a water tight seal, and therefore allows water/sweat to drain. Peter White has an example photo on his website: http://peterwhitecycles.com/images/products/Accessories/bertffcb.jpg John McMurry Burlington, VT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Daruma Bolt Question
That's very helpful! The photo helps a lot--I will reassemble it like that before it rains. --Eric Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2010, at 11:30 AM, John McMurry johnmcmu...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 3, 2:01 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Wondering if anybody else has had this problem with the daruma fork crown bolt that comes with some Honjo fenders. Basically, the daruma includes a rubber washer that seals against the bottom of the fork crown; a metal fender washer sits between the rubber washer and the fender. After I installed the fenders and got in some miles in the rain, I noticed that the rubber washer was sealing the bottom of the fork crown and preventing water that got in there from draining out. In fact, the water was migrating upward (the only way it could go, really) and escaping around the stem. Yeah, this can be a problem with the daruma setup. I've noticed increased condensation and surface rust inside the steer tube of bikes that use this setup (I've since cleaned them thoroughly, sprayed a rust preventative in the tube, and inspect annually). Though, I do think that you have the parts arranged incorrectly, which would exasperate this issue. From the fender crown downward, the metal fender washer should be installed, then the rubber washer, then the fender. The metal washer doesn't provide a water tight seal, and therefore allows water/sweat to drain. Peter White has an example photo on his website: http://peterwhitecycles.com/images/products/Accessories/bertffcb.jpg John McMurry Burlington, VT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] rivish parts garage sale
Hi there, I've enjoyed lurking on this list for quite some time - thanks for all the great information and discussion. I'm finally posting because I've been cleaning out my bike closet and have found the following bits that could use a new home: - Record 10spd 175 cranks 53/42 (pre-carbon) Exc. condition - $50 + 10 shipping - Record 10spd Front Der. (double) braze on (pre-carbon) Exc. cond. - $30 + 5 shipping - Record 102mm carbon sleeve bottom bracket Exc. cond. - $30 + 5 shipping - Brooks titanium swift seat, antique brown - moderate break-in-age - $75 +10 shipping - VO Grand Cru Long Setback seatpost, 27.2 - like new - $30 + 5 shipping - Dura Ace Rear Der. (double) - VG cond. - $35 + 5 shipping - Dura Ace Front Der (double) - good cond. - $25 + 5 shipping - Shimano 105 Rear Der (10spd, double) - exc. cond. - $30 + 5 shipping - Chorus Front Der (double, old style 9spd - braze on + clamp) - good cond. - $20 + 5 shipping - Chorus Rear Der (double, old style 9spd) - good cond. - $25 + 5 shipping - Chorus Crank, double, 53/39, older vintage - fair cond. - $20 + 10 shipping - 3T Stem 12 cm, 22.2 - good cond. - $15 + 5 shipping Shipping would be priority USPS, and would be less if purchasing multiple items. Paypal only please. Also, if the price doesn't seem reasonable, please let me know! Please reply off list. Thanks so much, Gary Asheville, NC - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Daruma Bolt Question
I am an idiot. Do not delete the rubber washer. Here is the setup I meant to write the first time around: the setup is fork crown, METAL WASHER, rubber washer, fender, small metal washer, locknut Sorry to add to the confusion. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: That's very helpful! The photo helps a lot--I will reassemble it like that before it rains. --Eric Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2010, at 11:30 AM, John McMurry johnmcmu...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 3, 2:01 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Wondering if anybody else has had this problem with the daruma fork crown bolt that comes with some Honjo fenders. Basically, the daruma includes a rubber washer that seals against the bottom of the fork crown; a metal fender washer sits between the rubber washer and the fender. After I installed the fenders and got in some miles in the rain, I noticed that the rubber washer was sealing the bottom of the fork crown and preventing water that got in there from draining out. In fact, the water was migrating upward (the only way it could go, really) and escaping around the stem. Yeah, this can be a problem with the daruma setup. I've noticed increased condensation and surface rust inside the steer tube of bikes that use this setup (I've since cleaned them thoroughly, sprayed a rust preventative in the tube, and inspect annually). Though, I do think that you have the parts arranged incorrectly, which would exasperate this issue. From the fender crown downward, the metal fender washer should be installed, then the rubber washer, then the fender. The metal washer doesn't provide a water tight seal, and therefore allows water/sweat to drain. Peter White has an example photo on his website: http://peterwhitecycles.com/images/products/Accessories/bertffcb.jpg John McMurry Burlington, VT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bag Repair in Seattle
Try Renate Gehrig: http://seattle.citysearch.com/profile/10795198/seattle_wa/renate_gehrig_design.html Ryan On Jul 29, 2:08 pm, Robert Kirkpatrick spiralc...@gmail.com wrote: The zipper on my Hobo bag broke on tour last summer and I'm hoping to get it replaced. Anyone have any leads on someone or someplace that'll do that sort of job? Ideally in the Seattle area but I'd send it out to somebody if I had to. thanks, Robert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] WTB: Nitto Dream Bars in 44 (new)
Hey Chris, Try here: http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=75_128_129_476products_id=1007 if no one else has any. Best, Joe Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 12:17:43 -0700 Subject: [RBW] WTB: Nitto Dream Bars in 44 (new) From: adventureco...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Anybody have a pair or two of WTB: Nitto Dream Bars in 44 you'd be willing to sell? Handlebars are starting to become like running shoes: you'd better stock up when you find something you like! Thanks, Chris Kostman La Jolla, CA http://www.XO-1.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A supposedly fun thing I'll never do again...
Sounds fun! Inquiring minds want to know: Did you shift? jim m wc ca Hey Jim, I didn't shift, 40/18 the entire way. It was definitely a good work out. The cruise down was odd, it seemed like it took forever just coasting back down. There's no real tricky turns or anything so you almost get bored with the descent. My rear wheel is a bolt-on (Surly hub fixed/free) and so it's a little harder to change. Next year I'm hoping to put on a different rear wheel, something with a QR. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Dream Bars in 44 (new)
On Aug 3, 12:17 pm, XO-1.org Rough Riders adventureco...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody have a pair or two of WTB: Nitto Dream Bars in 44 you'd be willing to sell? Are things that bad where you are? Here's few places that sells the 176 bar: Soma Fab has 42 and 44cm 176 bars for $80: http://store.somafab.com/nittom176dream.html an internet place called ride this has both 42 and 44cm bars for $60: http://www.ride-this.com/index.php/nitto-no-176-dream-bar.html?source=googleps Finally, it's not a 44cm, but Bike.com has 42cm for $50: http://bike.com/mod-176-road-bar-26-42-cm-silver-handlebars?utm_source=qbikeutm_medium=CSEutm_campaign=05DTHBBEan: I wonder if your LBS can get them tooGood Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Some comparative biking data
How did you determine the speed figures to compare? Average over same route over many laps? I find that my 17.75 lb Riv Custom Fixie Fastie is certainly faster up hills with its 75 gear than my circa 22 lb Riv Custom Fixie Commuter (largely identical in build except for fenders, Tubus Fly, SON + lights, heavier pedals) with its 69 gear, tho' truth to tell I am also usually carrying at least a small load on the Commuter. And the Commuter is faster than my 67 gear and much heavier (tho' frame is lighter) and much heavier wheeled '73 Motobecane Grand Record fixie grocery bike; again, taking hills into account. On the flats there is probably not that much difference as long as there is not a great deal of stopping and starting. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:54 PM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: having a few spare minutes this week, I looked at the performance/weight ratios of my stable of 4 bikes. This will probably surprise no one, but there isn't much difference between them. The bike that feels fastest, and the one I ride when I want to keep up is actually third fastest, and so on. I weighed the bikes as they are currently built up. (I've had the Ram lighter before but have made some comfort based changes) Brass bells, leather saddles, racks, fenders, saddle bags (emptied out though, pedals, bottle cages. No tools or frame pumps. No carbon, no titanium anywhere. But real world weights. Relative speed is as compared to the fastest bike. Shame about how slow fastest is precludes my providing hard data points. There may be others who can relate. Rambouillet - 23 1/2 lbs Fastest Nashbar Mark III - 24 lbs+0.01 mph Riv Road - 24 lbs+0.5 mph Saluki - 29 lbs +0.82 mph Less than 1 mph separates all of them. The Nashbar is probably the fastest if all the miles were on the same course. I practice hills on it because I really like its mustache bars for climbing. It was originally designed along the lines of a crit racer, iirc. It's not my favorite for anything over 30 miles, as the position is a bit aggressive. The Riv road is what I prefer on medium to long rides at speed, and the Saluki for loaded longer hauls, or very steep grades with the 26 low ring that its prior owner thoughtfully provided. So how come the fastest bike and the one with the most miles over the years is the Ram? Because it's just about as perfect a fit as I can imagine and handles really well. And its easy on the eyes as well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] rivish parts garage sale
I'll buy the record crankset, along with the front and rear dura ace derailleurs. How does 120 shipped to Oakland, ca, 94610 sound? erik On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Gary gmlmur...@mac.com wrote: Hi there, I've enjoyed lurking on this list for quite some time - thanks for all the great information and discussion. I'm finally posting because I've been cleaning out my bike closet and have found the following bits that could use a new home: - Record 10spd 175 cranks 53/42 (pre-carbon) Exc. condition - $50 + 10 shipping - Record 10spd Front Der. (double) braze on (pre-carbon) Exc. cond. - $30 + 5 shipping - Record 102mm carbon sleeve bottom bracket Exc. cond. - $30 + 5 shipping - Brooks titanium swift seat, antique brown - moderate break-in-age - $75 +10 shipping - VO Grand Cru Long Setback seatpost, 27.2 - like new - $30 + 5 shipping - Dura Ace Rear Der. (double) - VG cond. - $35 + 5 shipping - Dura Ace Front Der (double) - good cond. - $25 + 5 shipping - Shimano 105 Rear Der (10spd, double) - exc. cond. - $30 + 5 shipping - Chorus Front Der (double, old style 9spd - braze on + clamp) - good cond. - $20 + 5 shipping - Chorus Rear Der (double, old style 9spd) - good cond. - $25 + 5 shipping - Chorus Crank, double, 53/39, older vintage - fair cond. - $20 + 10 shipping - 3T Stem 12 cm, 22.2 - good cond. - $15 + 5 shipping Shipping would be priority USPS, and would be less if purchasing multiple items. Paypal only please. Also, if the price doesn't seem reasonable, please let me know! Please reply off list. Thanks so much, Gary Asheville, NC - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- oakland, ca bikenoir.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Daruma Bolt Question
I acually use several thicker washers to get the front fenderline right, depending on the biggest tire you plan to run. René On 8/3/10, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: I am an idiot. Do not delete the rubber washer. Here is the setup I meant to write the first time around: the setup is fork crown, METAL WASHER, rubber washer, fender, small metal washer, locknut Sorry to add to the confusion. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: That's very helpful! The photo helps a lot--I will reassemble it like that before it rains. --Eric Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2010, at 11:30 AM, John McMurry johnmcmu...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 3, 2:01 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Wondering if anybody else has had this problem with the daruma fork crown bolt that comes with some Honjo fenders. Basically, the daruma includes a rubber washer that seals against the bottom of the fork crown; a metal fender washer sits between the rubber washer and the fender. After I installed the fenders and got in some miles in the rain, I noticed that the rubber washer was sealing the bottom of the fork crown and preventing water that got in there from draining out. In fact, the water was migrating upward (the only way it could go, really) and escaping around the stem. Yeah, this can be a problem with the daruma setup. I've noticed increased condensation and surface rust inside the steer tube of bikes that use this setup (I've since cleaned them thoroughly, sprayed a rust preventative in the tube, and inspect annually). Though, I do think that you have the parts arranged incorrectly, which would exasperate this issue. From the fender crown downward, the metal fender washer should be installed, then the rubber washer, then the fender. The metal washer doesn't provide a water tight seal, and therefore allows water/sweat to drain. Peter White has an example photo on his website: http://peterwhitecycles.com/images/products/Accessories/bertffcb.jpg John McMurry Burlington, VT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Sent from my mobile device -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS Nitto Soba Bar 46cm
I have a 46cm Soba bar in near new condition for sale. If you are not familliar, the Soba is the same shape as the noodle, but lighter weight, approx 300g. This is just the ticket for the noodle fan building up a Roadeo. I wanted to like it but find I prefer the shape of the RM013. Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/72157624523886019/ $70 shipped in the U.S. Thanks for looking Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data
Holy Cow!..The only way one bicycle is (noticeably) faster than another is if your position is more aerodynamic. Tire size can make a difference but bike weight (unless it is considerable) can only make a difference in a climb. The real difference is how hard you pedal and whether or not you have a headwind. I think it would be very difficult to get enough data to support a decision unless you rode all four machines equally over thousands of miles and many years and kept very accurate stats. Overall I think there are too many variables to consider. Your intuition is probably as good of an indicator as a small data base but not much better. Good fit probably improves your power to the pedals and I believe that! On Aug 2, 5:54 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: having a few spare minutes this week, I looked at the performance/weight ratios of my stable of 4 bikes. This will probably surprise no one, but there isn't much difference between them. The bike that feels fastest, and the one I ride when I want to keep up is actually third fastest, and so on. I weighed the bikes as they are currently built up. (I've had the Ram lighter before but have made some comfort based changes) Brass bells, leather saddles, racks, fenders, saddle bags (emptied out though, pedals, bottle cages. No tools or frame pumps. No carbon, no titanium anywhere. But real world weights. Relative speed is as compared to the fastest bike. Shame about how slow fastest is precludes my providing hard data points. There may be others who can relate. Rambouillet - 23 1/2 lbs Fastest Nashbar Mark III - 24 lbs +0.01 mph Riv Road - 24 lbs +0.5 mph Saluki - 29 lbs +0.82 mph Less than 1 mph separates all of them. The Nashbar is probably the fastest if all the miles were on the same course. I practice hills on it because I really like its mustache bars for climbing. It was originally designed along the lines of a crit racer, iirc. It's not my favorite for anything over 30 miles, as the position is a bit aggressive. The Riv road is what I prefer on medium to long rides at speed, and the Saluki for loaded longer hauls, or very steep grades with the 26 low ring that its prior owner thoughtfully provided. So how come the fastest bike and the one with the most miles over the years is the Ram? Because it's just about as perfect a fit as I can imagine and handles really well. And its easy on the eyes as well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Some comparative biking data
Patrick: I looked at the data for all rides this year. It's not scientific at all, as the average climb per mile varies a little between the bikes as does the average length of ride. Even all the tires are different. All have about 600 miles, and I guess my point is that it has more to do with the rider, than the ride. Tailwinds.. Bruce From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, August 3, 2010 5:04:11 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Some comparative biking data How did you determine the speed figures to compare? Average over same route over many laps? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data
Yea.I think we are on the same page. Hope I didn't come across wrong initially. I just went through this with several bikes and thought for sure one particular bike was my faster bike and it turned out to not be ( on one particular ride on one day). I recently made a stem and saddle change to my all rounder. All of a sudden I am more comfortable and am able to apply the power to the pedals in a smooth fashion for much longer than before when I used to get aches and pains riding it. My intuition is that when I am comfortable on a bike the tires and gearing make the moist difference to me. Bar height being lower makes me faster to a point (and for short blasts) but if I am uncomfortable for too long, I slow down and am miserable and soon want to stop for beer. On Aug 3, 6:30 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Patrick: I looked at the data for all rides this year. It's not scientific at all, as the average climb per mile varies a little between the bikes as does the average length of ride. Even all the tires are different. All have about 600 miles, and I guess my point is that it has more to do with the rider, than the ride. Tailwinds.. Bruce From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, August 3, 2010 5:04:11 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Some comparative biking data How did you determine the speed figures to compare? Average over same route over many laps? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crankset
You may also want to look at this crank from Shimano: http://www.nashbar.com/bikes//Product_10053_10052_502567_-1___ Of course, you will need to use the Shimano Hollowtech bottom bracket but this crank is 50/34 and has crank lengths available in 172.5 mm. This crankset is now on sale at Nashbar for about $210. Take care, Aug 2, 11:06 am, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: There was a posting a couple weeks ago about a new crankset from Sugino - - a 110/74 double, IIRC. Have these hit the market? If anyone knows how to get one, it would seem perfect for the Roadeo I am building. Any info much appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis Repaint - Silver
Beautiful bike. Post pictures with the bar taped, I didn't miss them, did I? As a new Atlantis owner, I have to say that I just love it! René On 8/2/10, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote: My kudos as well, that's a great paint color and a fine looking Atlantis. Rick (who really should have thought harder about those last few silver Quickbeams). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Sent from my mobile device -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Sugino Crankset
Seems some of you ought to check out the TA Carmina. I am going with a 172.5 with the 110/74 double spider for my 650b Rando. Later if I want a triple I can swap spiders and go either with the 110/74 triple or 94/58. JIS taper. On Aug 3, 9:03 pm, Boogarich rwasiew...@socal.rr.com wrote: You may also want to look at this crank from Shimano:http://www.nashbar.com/bikes//Product_10053_10052_502567_-1___ Of course, you will need to use the Shimano Hollowtech bottom bracket but this crank is 50/34 and has crank lengths available in 172.5 mm. This crankset is now on sale at Nashbar for about $210. Take care, Aug 2, 11:06 am, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: There was a posting a couple weeks ago about a new crankset from Sugino - - a 110/74 double, IIRC. Have these hit the market? If anyone knows how to get one, it would seem perfect for the Roadeo I am building. Any info much appreciated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Some comparative biking data
Thanks; makes sense: not scientific but usefully anecdotal. Regarding Charlie's remark about position being a factor in speed: I find very clearly that when my bars are too high, or when I am riding on the flats, say, I generate less power. This may well be a purely individual idiosyncrasy, of course. Riding fixed as I do, I will routinely drop into the hooks when I round a bend into even a moderate headwind and, even, when I encounter a gradual incline: a lower position seems to give more power as well as doubtless being more aerodynamically efficient. Of course, on steep climbs I ride on the flats but shove myself way back on the saddle. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: Patrick: I looked at the data for all rides this year. It's not scientific at all, as the average climb per mile varies a little between the bikes as does the average length of ride. Even all the tires are different. All have about 600 miles, and I guess my point is that it has more to do with the rider, than the ride. Tailwinds.. Bruce -- *From:* PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Tue, August 3, 2010 5:04:11 PM *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Some comparative biking data How did you determine the speed figures to compare? Average over same route over many laps? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Root beer Rambouillet
Wow, I love this color! I don't think I've seen a Rivendell like this. http://tiny.cc/wreyu Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet
Try this: http://tiny.cc/maphy Ryan On Aug 3, 9:31 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Wow, I love this color! I don't think I've seen a Rivendell like this. http://tiny.cc/wreyu Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Some comparative biking data
Photos of Rodeo and build specs ... please? Patrick equally slow on all his bikes Moore On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:27 PM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: Holy Cow!..The only way one bicycle is (noticeably) faster than another is if your position is more aerodynamic. Wow! That must mean that when I ride my touring bike loaded up with all my stuff next month in the Sierra, I'll be just as fast as I would be on my unloaded Roadeo! Or not. I think probably not. Bike weight makes a difference on hills. A big weight difference makes a big speed difference. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Root beer Rambouillet
Personally, I see no root beer... just a page for TinyURL. -Scott On Aug 3, 9:32 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Try this:http://tiny.cc/maphy Ryan On Aug 3, 9:31 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Wow, I love this color! I don't think I've seen a Rivendell like this. http://tiny.cc/wreyu Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
