[RBW] Hunqapillar, interesting fork detail

[Joe Bernard]

After ogling Geoff's new Hunqapillar for a while, I went over to Rivbike to 
do some more ogling, and discovered an odd detail: The forks are threaded on 
top of the crown so you can mount a rear rack on the front. Um..why? Is 
there a benefit to doing this over mounting a nice front Nitto I'm not aware 
of? 
 
Joe Bernard
Fairfield, CA

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[RBW] Re: Pics of my new Hunqapillar...and a question about handlebar bags

[Geoff]

LOL  Joe, trust me, I understand about the decimated wallet!  My wife 
encouraged me to give the Riv bikes test rides for at least a couple of 
months.  I kept saying, No, that's okay, because I knew what might happen. 
 Well, I finally succumbed...and this is the result!

And I couldn't be happier.

Geoff

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Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar, interesting fork detail

[CycloFiend]

on 7/4/11 6:21 PM, Joe Bernard at joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

After ogling Geoff's new Hunqapillar for a while, I went over to Rivbike to
do some more ogling, and discovered an odd detail: The forks are threaded on
top of the crown so you can mount a rear rack on the front. Um..why? Is
there a benefit to doing this over mounting a nice front Nitto I'm not aware
of? 

Joe Bernard
Fairfield, CA

I think the top o' the crown mounts are just another option on a bicycle
that has just about the largest number of options...

There are a number of custom rack makers who use the crown top mount, in
addition to the rear-to-front benefit.  For wider racks and bigger front
loads, I would reckon that two points of anchor is better than one.

- J

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Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar, interesting fork detail

[Seth Vidal]

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:41 AM, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 on 7/4/11 6:21 PM, Joe Bernard at joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 After ogling Geoff's new Hunqapillar for a while, I went over to Rivbike to
 do some more ogling, and discovered an odd detail: The forks are threaded on
 top of the crown so you can mount a rear rack on the front. Um..why? Is
 there a benefit to doing this over mounting a nice front Nitto I'm not aware
 of?

 Joe Bernard
 Fairfield, CA

 I think the top o' the crown mounts are just another option on a bicycle
 that has just about the largest number of options...

 There are a number of custom rack makers who use the crown top mount, in
 addition to the rear-to-front benefit.  For wider racks and bigger front
 loads, I would reckon that two points of anchor is better than one.


A non-riv bike in my house has these mounts. I will only mention that
fork vibrations can impact those bolts and work them loose over time.
So crank them down and/or locktite/beeswax them to keep them from
loosening up and allowing moisture intrusion it your fork crown.

otherwise they are conveniently located and make sense to me.

-sv

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Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar, interesting fork detail

[James Warren]

I have a repainted Atlantis in the mail right now, and I've had those holes 
added to the crown. I have some hopes for using the R14 on the front:

http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/top-rack-nitto-r14/20-095


Thanks for the tightening tip, Seth.



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From: Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com
Sent: Jul 5, 2011 8:47 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar, interesting fork detail

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 11:41 AM, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote:
 on 7/4/11 6:21 PM, Joe Bernard at joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 After ogling Geoff's new Hunqapillar for a while, I went over to Rivbike to
 do some more ogling, and discovered an odd detail: The forks are threaded on
 top of the crown so you can mount a rear rack on the front. Um..why? Is
 there a benefit to doing this over mounting a nice front Nitto I'm not aware
 of?

 Joe Bernard
 Fairfield, CA

 I think the top o' the crown mounts are just another option on a bicycle
 that has just about the largest number of options...

 There are a number of custom rack makers who use the crown top mount, in
 addition to the rear-to-front benefit.  For wider racks and bigger front
 loads, I would reckon that two points of anchor is better than one.


A non-riv bike in my house has these mounts. I will only mention that
fork vibrations can impact those bolts and work them loose over time.
So crank them down and/or locktite/beeswax them to keep them from
loosening up and allowing moisture intrusion it your fork crown.

otherwise they are conveniently located and make sense to me.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: Which nail polish for 1st generation green Sam Hillborne?

[Peter Pesce]

Use clear.
If you can't fix it, feature it!

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[RBW] Was it really from last year? Yikes! Angus' Atlantis in the Gallery

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Thought I'd posted all of the rellly old (as in when they were 
submitted, not when they were made...) submissions, but with today's batch I 
found Angus' Atlantis with a date stamp from quite a while ago (Gernot's 
too, but it wasn't a Riv...).  Oh well, it's kinda like clearing out the 
garage and finding a box of really cool things that you enjoy playing with.

Anyway - Angus' custom-color Atlantis has been shared here before, I think, 
but here it is (finally!)

http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2011/cc831-anguslemon0711.html

And, if you submitted something to the Gallery, hang in there - I'm chewing 
my way into the queue.

- Jim

cyclofiend.com

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[RBW] FS: Brooks B17 Standard S Saddle - Honey

[J. Burkhalter]

For Sale: Brooks B17 Standard S - Honey color

I recently built up a Betty Foy for my girlfriend.  She test road the bike 
for one ride with this saddle, before deciding to go with the wider B68 S. 
 Saddle is like-new and includes the box and tensioning spanner wrench. 

note this is the S version of the B17
245mm (l) x 177mm (w)

pics of the saddle here *http://tinyurl.com/3br89qt*
comparison pic with regular B17 *http://tinyurl.com/3cz7ouj*

$80 shipped.  Paypal.  Please reply off-list.  

*Sorry if this gets posted twice.  I tried to post this morning, and it 
never went through.  

Thanks,
-Jay B.

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[RBW] moustache handlebar bag

[rlc5925]

Looking for suggesstions for a  bag that works with moustache
handlebars. Thanks

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[RBW] Re: Pics of my new Hunqapillar...and a question about handlebar bags

[Geoff]

Thanks, Everyone, for your nice comments and great suggestions.  

I'll take a much closer look at the bags and 'ways' that you've suggested, 
and *perhaps* go from there...*perhaps*, because-

My wife read my post, here, and said, *Hey!  **Don't* get a bag that's 
going to cover up that beautiful bullmoose bar, or hide the  wooly mammoth 
headbadge!  *Yeesh!*

I'll hafta get back with you guys on this.  LOL

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Re: [RBW] Was it really from last year? Yikes! Angus' Atlantis in the Gallery

[James Warren]

Amazing bike. Makes me want to pack some gear and ride for a week.

Thanks for the Gallery, Jim.


-Original Message- From: Cyclofiend Jim Sent: Jul 5, 2011 9:39 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Was it really from last year? Yikes! Angus' Atlantis in the Gallery Thought I'd posted all of the rellly old (as in when they were submitted, not when they were made...) submissions, but with today's batch I found Angus' Atlantis with a date stamp from quite a while ago (Gernot's too, but it wasn't a Riv...). Oh well, it's kinda like clearing out the garage and finding a box of really cool things that you enjoy playing with.Anyway - Angus' custom-color Atlantis has been shared here before, I think, but here it is (finally!)http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2011/cc831-anguslemon0711.htmlAnd, if you submitted something to the Gallery, hang in there - I'm chewing my way into the queue.- Jimcyclofiend.com
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Re: [RBW] Re: Pics of my new Hunqapillar...and a question about handlebar bags

[James Warren]

You are a lucky man to have someone in your life who appreciates these details!

-Original Message- From: Geoff Sent: Jul 3, 2011 11:07 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Pics of my new Hunqapillar...and a question about handlebar bags Thanks, Everyone, for your nice comments and great suggestions. 

I'll take a much closer look at the bags and 'ways' that you've suggested, and perhaps go from there...perhaps, because-

My wife read my post, here, and said, "Hey! Don't get a bag that's going to cover up that beautiful bullmoose bar, or hide the wooly mammoth headbadge! Yeesh!"

I'll hafta get back with you guys on this. LOL
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[RBW] Re: moustache handlebar bag

[Jim M.]

The bar tube or, if you can find one, hobo bag work very well with m-
bars.

On Jul 3, 10:23 am, rlc5925 rlc5...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looking for suggesstions for a  bag that works with moustache
 handlebars. Thanks

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Re: [RBW] moustache handlebar bag

[James Warren]

Rivendell Brand V bar tube. Velcro One-wrap attachment of the D rings to the 
horizontal brake hoods. I have the Baggins bar tube attached this way to 
moustache bars, and it works very well. The Baggins is no longer made, but the 
Brand V one looks great and has to be a very good deal:

http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/brand-v-bar-tube/20-197


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Sent: Jul 3, 2011 10:23 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] moustache handlebar bag

Looking for suggesstions for a  bag that works with moustache
handlebars. Thanks

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[RBW] Hunqapillar or Atlantis or....?

[Christian]

Hi everyone,

Variations on this question have been asked before but now that there
are more Hunqas out there I thought it would not hurt to ask again.

So.  I am in the market for a touring/trail/commuting/tough bike.  I
have a 650B Terraferma that I use for randonneuring, paved and dirt
road riding, etc.  I love it.  But I really want a bike for everything
else, especially loaded touring--even if just for a night here and
there.  The Terraferma's not made for loads.  Someday I'll finish the
Great Divide--I rode the Montana section in 1998--and want a bike to
do it on.

The Atlantis has always been very appealing but the $500 difference b/
w the two is, for me, significant.  $500 will go a long way building
up a Hunqa.  I am going to be visiting Riv later in the month and will
test both.  But thought I'd solicit some ideas, opinions, what-have-
you now.

Thanks and best wishes,

Christian

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[RBW] FS: Bridgestone Owners Bunch Blue wool jersey

[William]

I worked at a Bridgestone dealer back in the early 90's.  I bought every 
color of shortsleeve wool jersey they sold.  This is my last one.  I've worn 
it maybe a dozen times (I have lots of jerseys and ride 90% of the time with 
a longsleeve).  

I have been using my new washer/dryer for wool.  There's a handwash/wool 
setting that's been working great.  All my wool has done very well using 
this setting, with the exception of this jersey.  It was originally tagged a 
Large, but it fit more like a Medium, and now it's short on me after running 
it through the gentle tumbedry of my new washer.  All previous washes have 
been handwash/line dry or dryclean.  

Anyhow, it's too small for me now.  I'm 5'10 and 175 lbs.  I think somebody 
a little thinner, and a fair bit shorter than me would be happy in this cozy 
jersey.  Let's say 5'6 150lbs?  I put the relevant measurements I took on 
the flickr photos:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5905178669/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5905178235/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5905177365/in/photostream/

$25 shipped in the continental US.  Let me know if you have questions.

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[RBW] Re: Riv-Ish PBP Training

[pb]

Nice photos, Eric, thanks for posting.  I've ridden every one of those
roads.  I was drooling.

Cheers,

Peter
san diego

On Jul 4, 3:08 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 I didn't ride my Riv, but I was on lugged steel and leather, with friction 
 shifting and freewheel! 304 miles in two days, unsupported and solo (kind of 
 a Above24H ride).  Photos here:

 http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2011/07/paris-brest-paris-training-w...

 --Eric
 campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org

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[RBW] Re: FS: 1985 Ritchey MTB with SON hub, Seattle pickup - $270

[wrharper]

David,

What part of town are you in? I might be interested in coming by to
check it out.  Feel free to reply off list.


Thanks,

Russ

On Jul 4, 1:15 pm, David Mayne dma...@gmail.com wrote:
 1985 Ritchey mountain bike, used as a commute bike for a couple of
 years, and has been sitting in my garage for a number of  years taking
 up space. Due to arthritis, I'll never be able to ride it again, and
 need to reclaim the space, so I must depart with this bike, though I
 have fond memories of riding it. The frame was frame-saved when I
 brought it to Seattle. It has some scratches on the top tube, and
 needs a good cleanup. It could use a new bottom bracket as well, and
 probably some new tires.

 The details:

 Seat Tube, CTC 50cm
 Top Tube, CTC 55cm
 Wheel Base 109cm (yes, a long one)
 Wheels are 26.

 Nitto Dirt Drop Bar, Nitto Dirt Drop Stem, Suntour Friction barend
 shifters, Ritchey Logic Triple Crankset (170mm, very low Q), Sach
 Centaur rear derailleur, no name front derailleur, Shimano cantilever
 breaks, Shimano  Road Brake levers, no name 7 speed freewheel, WTB
 saddle, MKS touring pedals, and Peter White built front wheel with SON
 hub laced to a Mavic D521 Rim (excellent shape).

 I'd like to sell the whole bike as is to move it out of the way, for
 Seattle pickup only, asking $270 for entire bike, OBO.

 http://dmayne.home.mindspring.com/bike/IMG_0772.jpghttp://dmayne.home.mindspring.com/bike/IMG_0773.jpghttp://dmayne.home.mindspring.com/bike/IMG_0774.jpghttp://dmayne.home.mindspring.com/bike/IMG_0775.jpghttp://dmayne.home.mindspring.com/bike/IMG_0776.jpg

 Thanks,

 David

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[RBW] Re: FS: 1985 Ritchey MTB with SON hub, Seattle pickup - $270

[rcnute]

David is a great guy to deal with and last time I was over at his
place he had a king's ransom of cool bikes and parts.

Ryan

On Jul 5, 10:59 am, wrharper wrussellhar...@gmail.com wrote:
 David,

 What part of town are you in? I might be interested in coming by to
 check it out.  Feel free to reply off list.

 Thanks,

 Russ

 On Jul 4, 1:15 pm, David Mayne dma...@gmail.com wrote:

  1985 Ritchey mountain bike, used as a commute bike for a couple of
  years, and has been sitting in my garage for a number of  years taking
  up space. Due to arthritis, I'll never be able to ride it again, and
  need to reclaim the space, so I must depart with this bike, though I
  have fond memories of riding it. The frame was frame-saved when I
  brought it to Seattle. It has some scratches on the top tube, and
  needs a good cleanup. It could use a new bottom bracket as well, and
  probably some new tires.

  The details:

  Seat Tube, CTC 50cm
  Top Tube, CTC 55cm
  Wheel Base 109cm (yes, a long one)
  Wheels are 26.

  Nitto Dirt Drop Bar, Nitto Dirt Drop Stem, Suntour Friction barend
  shifters, Ritchey Logic Triple Crankset (170mm, very low Q), Sach
  Centaur rear derailleur, no name front derailleur, Shimano cantilever
  breaks, Shimano  Road Brake levers, no name 7 speed freewheel, WTB
  saddle, MKS touring pedals, and Peter White built front wheel with SON
  hub laced to a Mavic D521 Rim (excellent shape).

  I'd like to sell the whole bike as is to move it out of the way, for
  Seattle pickup only, asking $270 for entire bike, OBO.

 http://dmayne.home.mindspring.com/bike/IMG_0772.jpghttp://dmayne.home...

  Thanks,

  David

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bridgestone Owners Bunch Blue wool jersey

[hobie]

Hello. If the jersey is still for sale I'll take it. moho1...@yahoo.com

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[RBW] Roadeo dreaming...

[William]

I stopped by the Rapha Store in San Francisco.  I'm not sure I understand 
this part of the business model, but Rapha opens these temporary storefronts 
as little cafe-boutiques and then shuts them down.  It's in San Francisco 
through July.  It's cute, and it's nice for me at least to be able to touch 
the products.  They have the Tour de France on bigscreens all day and have a 
lot of informal seating.  It's a cool vibe, if you don't mind pricey clothes 
boutiques.  

Anyway, they had a very small Chris King display upstairs.  The highlight of 
the display for me was a gorgeous white Cielo Sportif.  It's essentially a 
Roadeo ie a fat tired road bike.  It takes 57mm brakes, comes with fender 
braze-ons, steel fork, etc.  The key differences are it has a more muted 
monochrome look, no fancy lugs, but it had a couple really cool little 
reveal accents showing the stainless underneath (around the seat cluster, 
cute little headtube rings).  It appears to have a dead level top tube and 
not quite as much BB drop as a Roadeo, and it has a 1-1/8 threadless 
steerer.  It's basically the same price as a Roadeo frameset ($1895 f/f no 
headset).  The bike had a decidedly modern vibe to it (nobody is going to 
ask nice bike! how old is it?), while still having a timeless classy steel 
look.  Very very appealing.   

So, the point of my post is twofold:  1.  check out the Rapha boutique in SF 
if you care about such foppery.  2.  Two of you should step up and buy me a 
Roadeo and a Cielo Sportif so I can ride them both.  ha ha.  

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[RBW] F.S. Acorn Med. Saddlebag Nitto Mark's Rack

[j4gitr]

I have a Black Medium Acorn Bag used very lightly. Hard to distinguish
from new other than a little mark on the leather where it was attached
to the seatpost and perhaps the canvas is a little more supple than
new.  $80 plus shipping
The Mark's Rack has never been mounted and sat in its bag all its
life. $95 plus shipping.
I'll take paypal and can furnish photos upon request.

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[RBW] Holiday weekend Rides?

[rperks]

I hope some of you out there were able to get in some nice holiday
weekend rides.

The family and I were up on the California central coast visiting with
even more family over the weekend.  I was able to squeeze in a nice
mixed terrain metric century on the Roadeo.  Every time I pull off a
ride like this on the Roadeo I fall deeper for it, lately it is the
only bike I ride unless the little girl is along, she still sits in
front of me on the xtracycle.

Back to the ride, 68 miles over hill and dale, along the coast and
back up into ranch country.  Temperature swings greater than 30
degrees over the ride, and maxing out near 100 deg near the end.  It
is nice to have a bike with bags so you cna carry some layers, snacks
and plenty of water.

Full report with pictures here
http://oceanaircycles.com/2011/07/05/bbt-metric-century-central-coast-mixed-loop/

Everything went as well as you could hope.  Even the new to me Swift
saddle treated me well, not sure if it was brave or stupid to use a
new saddle on a day like this, butt it went well - pin intended

Rob
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[RBW] Re: FS: Bridgestone Owners Bunch Blue wool jersey

[William]

...and it is Sold.  THX

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Re: [RBW] Roadeo dreaming...

[cyclotourist]

Somebody has to write the review, might as well be you!!!

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:58 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
snip

 .  Two of you should step up and buy me a Roadeo and a Cielo Sportif so I
 can ride them both.  ha ha.

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Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Atlantis or....?

[cyclotourist]

Hi Christian, arm-chair expert replying here, but if it's loaded touring
you'll be doing, get the Hunq.   The Atlantis can of course do that, but I
bet the extra beefiness of the Hunq would really shine through.  Also don't
forget the Sam H.  Very capable and at the lower price point as well.

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christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi everyone,

 Variations on this question have been asked before but now that there
 are more Hunqas out there I thought it would not hurt to ask again.

 So.  I am in the market for a touring/trail/commuting/tough bike.  I
 have a 650B Terraferma that I use for randonneuring, paved and dirt
 road riding, etc.  I love it.  But I really want a bike for everything
 else, especially loaded touring--even if just for a night here and
 there.  The Terraferma's not made for loads.  Someday I'll finish the
 Great Divide--I rode the Montana section in 1998--and want a bike to
 do it on.

 The Atlantis has always been very appealing but the $500 difference b/
 w the two is, for me, significant.  $500 will go a long way building
 up a Hunqa.  I am going to be visiting Riv later in the month and will
 test both.  But thought I'd solicit some ideas, opinions, what-have-
 you now.

 Thanks and best wishes,

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Atlantis or....?

[Leslie]

If Atlantis is really in the mix, I would suggest a Bombadil even;  the 
Atlantis really was/is Rivendell's original touring bike, but the Bombadil 
is even moreso.  

However, as the Sam is a more affordable Homer  (remember this page? 
http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/30/original_A.pdf  I always liked 
that, 100% of the function but saving $1000; of course, the Sam's gone up a 
bit now, but, the idea still holds)... anyway, along those lines of 
thinking, I'd think the Hunqapillar is what you would want to look at.   
Rivendell bikes do have a good amount of overlap, any of the three would do 
the job very well, but why not the Hunq?  $500 is a good part of the way on 
the parts, so, I say, sure, go Hunq.The only reason I would see why you 
might not want to is if you did have your heart set on 650B wheels... both 
the Hunq and the Atlantis are 26 on the smaller end, 700c on the larger 
sizes;  the biggest Bombadils are also 700c, but the smaller ones are 
650B.   

You have perused this page, right? 
http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/429/original_currentbikesrr43.pdf   
Sounds like, the Hunq is made for you..

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[RBW] Re: Holiday weekend Rides?

[Michael_S]

That's one awesome ride Rob. Everytime I drive down the 101 grade into SLO I 
look across at that old Stagecoach rd and wonder.
 
someday I'll get up there to ride when I'm semi-retired!   and soon I 
hope.
 
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Re: [RBW] Roadeo dreaming...

[Michael_S]

I don't think this is a fair comparison The Roadeo seems like a much 
better bike for the $$ to me.  Nuthin' bad to say about the Cielo except 
they are TIG welded.  To me it's exciting that these kind of bikes are 
getting out in the mainstream. I think any road bike that only takes 25mm 
tires is diversity challenged.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Holiday weekend Rides?

[Tim Whalen]

Very nice Rob.  I agree with you about the Roadeo.  I am riding mine more
and more on dirt roads and trails.  One set of wheels with GB Cypres for
smooth and quick pavement, one with cx tires makes for an incredibly
versatile and responsive bike.  What tires were you running there?
Tim

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 That's one awesome ride Rob. Everytime I drive down the 101 grade into SLO
 I look across at that old Stagecoach rd and wonder.

 someday I'll get up there to ride when I'm semi-retired!   and soon I
 hope.

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Atlantis or....?

[charlie]

You have answered you own question so yes, get the 'Hunqua'...I
think any sensible ride could be done on the 'Hunk' and will probably
last a lifetime or more.

On Jul 5, 10:31 am, Christian christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 Variations on this question have been asked before but now that there
 are more Hunqas out there I thought it would not hurt to ask again.

 So.  I am in the market for a touring/trail/commuting/tough bike.  I
 have a 650B Terraferma that I use for randonneuring, paved and dirt
 road riding, etc.  I love it.  But I really want a bike for everything
 else, especially loaded touring--even if just for a night here and
 there.  The Terraferma's not made for loads.  Someday I'll finish the
 Great Divide--I rode the Montana section in 1998--and want a bike to
 do it on.

 The Atlantis has always been very appealing but the $500 difference b/
 w the two is, for me, significant.  $500 will go a long way building
 up a Hunqa.  I am going to be visiting Riv later in the month and will
 test both.  But thought I'd solicit some ideas, opinions, what-have-
 you now.

 Thanks and best wishes,

 Christian

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[RBW] Brooks Titanium Saddle FS

[Eric Norris]

Gently used Brooks B-17 Champion Special with titanium rails.  $150 shipped in 
the USA.  Proofhide applied when the saddle was new. Always stored indoors. 

Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176895@N03/sets/72157627002080517/

Keven's bag in the photos is *not* for sale.

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Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Atlantis or....?

[Anne Paulson]

Here's a question maybe some of you Hunq owners can answer-- what is the
Atlantis giving away in loaded touring? At what point would I be touring on
my Atlantis and say to myself, wow, wish my bike wasn't doing that, I wish I
had a Hunq instead?

Seriously. I can easily imagine a point where I thought to myself, I wish I
was riding a bike with a front suspension instead of my Atlantis (and for
me, that point would come on the Great Divide, but YMMV). But I'm trying to
understand when I'd wish I had a Hunq and what the symptoms would be. (I
ride a 56 cm. Things might be different if I were on a bigger frame.)

Christian, for you it sounds like the Hunq is the right choice.

-- Anne



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 Hi Christian, arm-chair expert replying here, but if it's loaded touring
 you'll be doing, get the Hunq.   The Atlantis can of course do that, but I
 bet the extra beefiness of the Hunq would really shine through.

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Re: [RBW] Roadeo dreaming...

[William]

I'd love to ride them both for a couple thousand miles to find out if the 
comparison is fair or not :)  


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Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Atlantis or....?

[Ray Shine]

I'll second Anne's question re the Atlantis. Where does it slide in comparison 
to the hunq? In other words, how much more capable is one model over the other, 
in real carrying capacity?





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Subject: Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Atlantis or?


Here's a question maybe some of you Hunq owners can answer-- what is the 
Atlantis giving away in loaded touring? At what point would I be touring on my 
Atlantis and say to myself, wow, wish my bike wasn't doing that, I wish I had 
a Hunq instead?


Seriously. I can easily imagine a point where I thought to myself, I wish I 
was riding a bike with a front suspension instead of my Atlantis (and for me, 
that point would come on the Great Divide, but YMMV). But I'm trying to 
understand when I'd wish I had a Hunq and what the symptoms would be. (I ride 
a 56 cm. Things might be different if I were on a bigger frame.)


Christian, for you it sounds like the Hunq is the right choice.


-- Anne






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Hi Christian, arm-chair expert replying here, but if it's loaded touring 
you'll be doing, get the Hunq.   The Atlantis can of course do that, but I bet 
the extra beefiness of the Hunq would really shine through.  -- 
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[RBW] Re: F.S. Acorn Med. Saddlebag Nitto Mark's Rack

[Solomander]

I'm interested in the rack.

Joel

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Atlantis or....?

[Zack]

I made my decision between bomba, sam, atlantis, and hunk like this:

I have a 93.5 pbh.

They aren't making the 64 cm Atlantis any more.  So no Atlantis.

Bomba is nice, but is more expensive than the hunk, and there was a long 
backorder (like 6 months I think, but I could be off on that) when I was 
looking at them in May.

So to me it came down to the Hunk vs. the Sam.  

I rode, and loved, both.  The 62cm Hunk was nice.  It felt very stable, 
comfortable, and was a super-fun bike to ride.  It was really unlike any 
bike I had ever ridden.  Loading it up would be a blast.  Riding it around 
empty would also be fun, but it doesn't feel fast.

The 64cm Sam was also fantastic.  It felt lighter and more spry.  Much more 
like the bikes that I am used to riding.  The double-top tube helps make it 
more stable I think, and I can use that stability as I am a big guy.  I 
loved that I could set this up with noodles and jack browns and ride 
fast-ish, and that i could put duremes and albas on it and ride slower and 
loaded up (but not as loaded as I could get on the hunk).  

To me, the versatility of the Sam was the clincher. 

This is all clearly just my opinion/feel/etc., but I figured I'd share.  On 
a side note, I am probably going to get the Sam in the next few weeks, I am 
psyched.

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Re: [RBW] Roadeo dreaming...

[Michael_S]

The geometery of the Riv is more my cup of tea. Longer chainstays, slacker 
seat angle are big priorities for me. 
When you finish your side-by-side test for Bicycle Quarterly  we can all 
read about it.
 
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[RBW] Re: Holiday weekend Rides?

[rperks]

Tim,
I run Jack Brown greens, and find they strike a good balance.  I have
used them on everything from new pavement to some easy single track
and they have held up just fine.  The only place they have let me dow
nis in sandy corners out on the trails, but you can not realy hold
your hopes too high for any road tire in those conditions.  Out on the
dirt roads they are perfect as long as I keep my speed in check,
probably a good thing in the long run.

Rob

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 Very nice Rob.  I agree with you about the Roadeo.  I am riding mine more
 and more on dirt roads and trails.  One set of wheels with GB Cypres for
 smooth and quick pavement, one with cx tires makes for an incredibly
 versatile and responsive bike.  What tires were you running there?
 Tim



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  That's one awesome ride Rob. Everytime I drive down the 101 grade into SLO
  I look across at that old Stagecoach rd and wonder.

  someday I'll get up there to ride when I'm semi-retired!   and soon I
  hope.

  ~mike

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Atlantis or....?

[charlie]

I think it really depends on the riders weight/size and how much of a
load the bike will carry. The 'Hunk' has heavier gauge tubing which
would be a plus as would the added diagonal tube. Can't remember the
ground clearance dimension but the Atlantis seems more like a road
touring bicycle rather than a multi surface off roader if you get my
drift. An Atlantis seems like the perfect Rando bike for a heavy guy
and the Sam for more normal weight people. The 'Hunk' is just beefier
and so would be able to carry more weight and not feel like riding a
wet noodle. Not a problem for a 180 pounder with a load but it sure
would be for a 280 pound rider and a load. My own (similar to the
Atlantis) touring frame is kind of rated for a 275 pound load and I
tip the scales at 260 so I don't load it with much and use it as my
normal derailleur geared road bicycle. Hey... maybe I will get a
'Hunk' since my Simple One has been such a pleasure to ride. What ever
happened to the load limit chart for the Riv models anyway.

On Jul 5, 5:55 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here's a question maybe some of you Hunq owners can answer-- what is the
 Atlantis giving away in loaded touring? At what point would I be touring on
 my Atlantis and say to myself, wow, wish my bike wasn't doing that, I wish I
 had a Hunq instead?

 Seriously. I can easily imagine a point where I thought to myself, I wish I
 was riding a bike with a front suspension instead of my Atlantis (and for
 me, that point would come on the Great Divide, but YMMV). But I'm trying to
 understand when I'd wish I had a Hunq and what the symptoms would be. (I
 ride a 56 cm. Things might be different if I were on a bigger frame.)

 Christian, for you it sounds like the Hunq is the right choice.

 -- Anne

 On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:26 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Christian, arm-chair expert replying here, but if it's loaded touring
  you'll be doing, get the Hunq.   The Atlantis can of course do that, but I
  bet the extra beefiness of the Hunq would really shine through.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Atlantis or....?

[Anne Paulson]

So, then, you're saying that if I'm a medium weight person carrying a normal
amount that a loaded tourist might carry-- say, not much more than 65
pounds-- and I'm not riding on gnarly single track but on paved roads, fire
roads and single track that is not gnarly, then the Hunq would offer no
advantage to me over the Atlantis? Except, of course, the considerable
advantage of being $500 cheaper?

In fact I do take my Atlantis, loaded up with 50 or 60 pounds, on fire
roads, paved roads and non-gnarly single track, and it performs beautifully.
YMMV.

 On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:28 PM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I think it really depends on the riders weight/size and how much of a
 load the bike will carry. The 'Hunk' has heavier gauge tubing which
 would be a plus as would the added diagonal tube. Can't remember the
 ground clearance dimension but the Atlantis seems more like a road
 touring bicycle rather than a multi surface off roader if you get my
 drift.


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[RBW] FS: Paul Components Cross Levers

[tspin]

I am interested - please contact me at tspinoso (at) gmail dot com

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[RBW] Re: Cross levers on 46cm Noodle bars?

[Mark in Melbourne]

My 46cm Noodles are my first drop bars, installed with Pauls cross top
levers. They did ease the transition early with a more familiar flat
bar feel, but I ride mostly on the hoods, and after about 6 months, I
started ‘emergency braking’ (the brakes you jump too without thinking)
on the hoods too. Now, after riding drops for 18 months, I very rarely
use the interrupters, and I will take them off next bar tape or cable
swap over.

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Atlantis or....?

[Scotty]

I find that a very tough choice myself. Why not both? :-)  
 
Really I dont think you can go wrong with either. That Hunq sure is pretty, 
stunningly so. The Atlantis is the bike that drew me to Rivendell in the 
first place. It was my original Riv dream bike. If I did not already have a 
capable Touring bike it is probably what I would have gotten, but since i 
did I went in a different direction and bought a Hilsen.
 
I recently saw a set of pictures on the Yves Gomez facebook page of a 
Hunqapillar that went on display at some bike related art thing, and it 
truly is a work of art. Possibly the most beautiful bike I have ever seen.

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Atlantis or....?

[Joe Bernard]

My opinion is a shallow one: I think the paint job on the Hunqapillar is the 
most beautiful combo Rivendell has produced. Get the pretty one, save 500 
bucks. 
 
Joe Bernard
Fairfield, CA.

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[RBW] Re: moustache handlebar bag

[Liesl]

Keven's bag all the way.  rocks on m'bars.  rocks anywhere.

liesl

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Atlantis or....?

[Joe Bernard]

In my size they're both 26-inch wheel bikes, and my favorite Rivs. I'd take 
the Hunqapillar simply because I love the color. The price drop is nice, 
too, but wouldn't be the decider.
 
Joe Bernard
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[RBW] WTT 59cm Bleriot for 61cm Bleriot

[Michael Williams]

Hey All, I have a 59cm Bleriot that Im looking to trade for a 61cm
Bleriot if anyone has one they feel is just a little big, or purchase
a 61cm frame outright.thank you -Mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 1985 Ritchey MTB with SON hub, Seattle pickup - $270

[David Mayne]

Thanks for the kind words, Ryan.

The bike was just sold and picked up, thanks for all the inquiries.
I'm sad to see it go...

David



On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:11 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:
 David is a great guy to deal with and last time I was over at his
 place he had a king's ransom of cool bikes and parts.

 Ryan

 On Jul 5, 10:59 am, wrharper wrussellhar...@gmail.com wrote:
 David,

 What part of town are you in? I might be interested in coming by to
 check it out.  Feel free to reply off list.

 Thanks,

 Russ

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  1985 Ritchey mountain bike, used as a commute bike for a couple of
  years, and has been sitting in my garage for a number of  years taking
  up space. Due to arthritis, I'll never be able to ride it again, and
  need to reclaim the space, so I must depart with this bike, though I
  have fond memories of riding it. The frame was frame-saved when I
  brought it to Seattle. It has some scratches on the top tube, and
  needs a good cleanup. It could use a new bottom bracket as well, and
  probably some new tires.

  The details:

  Seat Tube, CTC 50cm
  Top Tube, CTC 55cm
  Wheel Base 109cm (yes, a long one)
  Wheels are 26.

  Nitto Dirt Drop Bar, Nitto Dirt Drop Stem, Suntour Friction barend
  shifters, Ritchey Logic Triple Crankset (170mm, very low Q), Sach
  Centaur rear derailleur, no name front derailleur, Shimano cantilever
  breaks, Shimano  Road Brake levers, no name 7 speed freewheel, WTB
  saddle, MKS touring pedals, and Peter White built front wheel with SON
  hub laced to a Mavic D521 Rim (excellent shape).

  I'd like to sell the whole bike as is to move it out of the way, for
  Seattle pickup only, asking $270 for entire bike, OBO.

 http://dmayne.home.mindspring.com/bike/IMG_0772.jpghttp://dmayne.home...

  Thanks,

  David

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Atlantis or....?

[CycloFiend]

Just in case folks are wondering about them, I have been mirroring most of
the pdf publications here:

http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/pdf

(Last update was in February, but I've got the ones which came out since
then in the queue.)

- J

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rode metal.  He hadn't liked it when Chevette had gone for a paper frame.
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