[RBW] Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread Esteban
Awful. Like others, I Seth and I had a regular correspondence on Flickr. I would count him as a friend. Loss for words... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

Re: [RBW] Re: Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread Brian Hanson
Seth - you will be missed, my friend. The list brings sadness today. Looking at your Flickr favorites, you have a bit of all of us there. Brian Seattle, WA Brian Hanson Seattle, WA On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Evan Spacht evan.spa...@gmail.com wrote: While I never knew, or had the

Re: [RBW] Re: Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread Anne Paulson
I can't even believe this. I can't process it. I just looked his Flickr photostream, and those photos are just brimming with life and joy. My heart goes out to his friends (I'm so sorry, Jack) and especially his sweetheart, who is in so many of his pictures. On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 11:53 PM,

[RBW] Re: Classy bottle

2013-07-10 Thread justinaugust
The cafe tops, in my experience, offer no seal though. I've gotten coffee all over legs and filled up the pocket of my rucksack when using it! Is this your experience too, or am I just doing it wrong?. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

[RBW] Re: Classy bottle

2013-07-10 Thread Deacon Patrick
The cafe top isn't intended to seal, it's intended to be like a car coffee cup -- spill free when sloshed about a bit yet easy to drink from. So, yes, you're using it wrong. Just swap out to the sealed lid when you need it. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:56:38 AM UTC-6,

[RBW] Re: Thin gripsters vs mks touring

2013-07-10 Thread Deacon Patrick
Beeswax, oak platform pedals, and barefeet! I do occasionally slip off if shifting skips at high cadence, but I'm amazed how little I come off on the intermediate MTB stuff. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, July 8, 2013 10:36:09 AM UTC-6, Daniel D. wrote: Riding with tevas and the MKS

[RBW] f/s ITM steel stem

2013-07-10 Thread Ron Mc
TIG-welded, chromed steel Eclipse stem, 120mm bar extension, 60mm max exposed quill length, 26mm bar diameter. Almost free to a good home - a $15 paypal will send it your way. In good shape with very minor scattered pits on the bottom of the extension (came off my Moser frame, which shows no

[RBW] Leather gloves (fingerless mitts) ?

2013-07-10 Thread Ron Mc
I retired my Riv summer-weight leather gloves partly because there is no padding at all in the hooks, and mostly because there is just too much padding in general. Yes, 3XL, they restrict my circulation and cause pain. I will admit, I caught a tire groove and went over at 18mph one day and

[RBW] Re: Leather gloves (fingerless mitts) ?

2013-07-10 Thread bwphoto
Golf gloves, driving gloves? Those are the only ones I can think of. Part of the problem with finger and hand tingling is the angle of you wrist, that's why the Ergon grips work so well, they prevent the wrist from bending inward. I used to have that problem with drops until I moved the brake

[RBW] Re: Leather gloves (fingerless mitts) ?

2013-07-10 Thread Ron Mc
thanks, but your analysis is incorrect. I ride with straight wrists and bent elbows - the problem is squeezing of my hands by the padding. It is not tingling or numbness, it is pain. Thanks again On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:25:54 AM UTC-5, bwphoto wrote: Golf gloves, driving gloves?

[RBW] Re: Leather gloves (fingerless mitts) ?

2013-07-10 Thread Deacon Patrick
Shoes? We don't need no stinkin' shoes! [queue rebellious teen music...] Grin. Have you tried a pair of form fitting leather work gloves and just cut the fingers off? You could spend as little or as much as you want, from cheep work gloves to fancy driving gloves. With abandon, Patrick On

[RBW] Re: Thin gripsters vs mks touring

2013-07-10 Thread Mike
The Thin Gripsters are much better than any of the MKS pedals. Grip Kings are good with traction pins inserted. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an

Re: [RBW] Chris King Headset

2013-07-10 Thread Steven Frederick
American designed and made, to exacting standards, in an employee-friendly atmosphere, and an environmentally responsible way. Lots there to like IMO.That said, probably more financially justifiable for a rough use mountain bike which puts a great deal more strain on a headset. Plus, the

Re: [RBW] Re: Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread Bryan
So terribly sad. . . . Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: Leather gloves (fingerless mitts) ?

2013-07-10 Thread tdusky
I use the crochet backed gloves that Riv sells. I also found the padding to be too thick and uncomfortable. I just carefully remove the padding giving me a thin glove. Tom Dusky Huntington Woods MI On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:56:07 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: I retired my Riv summer-weight

[RBW] Re: Leather gloves (fingerless mitts) ?

2013-07-10 Thread Ron Mc
Tom, as I have an idle pair of these, I was thinking of trying just that - I have a nice set of Hiro knives. On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:10:53 AM UTC-5, tdusky wrote: I use the crochet backed gloves that Riv sells. I also found the padding to be too thick and uncomfortable. I just

[RBW] Re: Rocket fuel

2013-07-10 Thread Norman R
Here's how the pros do it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/norro/5379339357/in/set-72157625884949426 and http://www.flickr.com/photos/norro/5379944932/in/set-72157625884949426 On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 3:05:03 PM UTC-4, bwphoto wrote: Over the weekend we ran out of propane for the grill and we

[RBW] Re: Rocket fuel

2013-07-10 Thread Ron Mc
thanks for the photos - that was fun On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:31:23 AM UTC-5, Norman R wrote: Here's how the pros do it: http://www.flickr.com/photos/norro/5379339357/in/set-72157625884949426 and http://www.flickr.com/photos/norro/5379944932/in/set-72157625884949426 On Tuesday,

Re: [RBW] Re: 10 Bikes - could you do it?

2013-07-10 Thread Steven Frederick
I'd like to get back down to ten-avarice and bike lust have had there way with me. I could easily do ten: commuter/errand bike fast, short travel mountain bike fun, long travel mountain bike singlespeed mountain bike fat bike fast, fenderless road bike fast, fendered road bike fat tired

[RBW] Re: Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread wjspencer
This is horrible new. My thoughts and prayers go out to Seth's friends and family. Bill in MD On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 3:03:07 PM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote: via Twitter: *ThePathLessPedaled* @*pathlesspedaled*

[RBW] Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I can't believe it. Seth is someone I have such respect for and hoped to meet one day... I am deeply saddened. Is there something we can do to honor him? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread justinaugust
My younger brother passed away 2 years ago. He was an avid member of a truck modification group similar to the RBW group. His friends went as so far to as come to the memorial service for him. I'm not sure if that would be the most appropriate action but I think collecting donations for flowers

[RBW] Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread William
Like many of you my interactions with Seth were all on the group, or flicker or private emails, but those interactions were several, and were always positive. I work with software engineers that very well might be users of his tools. It is really heartbreaking to hear this news. -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Rocket fuel

2013-07-10 Thread Scott Henry
This is all I think of when hearing Rocket Fuel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JpwjnMFlJI Scott Cheers, Scott Henry Dayton, OH FTM-PTB On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:55 AM, tarik saleh tariksa...@gmail.com wrote: Norman, Excellent! Also Egypt:

[RBW] Re: Leather gloves (fingerless mitts) ?

2013-07-10 Thread William
i think rapha has no padding leather gloves, but they might be 160 dollars -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: 10 Bikes - could you do it?

2013-07-10 Thread Esteban
Dude, no problem (and in honor of Seth, who always loved it when a new bike came into my garage, which is large): 1. Rivendell Protovelo 650B by Mark Nobilette (camping, touring, albatross bars) 2. Ebisu 700c All Purpose randonneuse 3. Box Dog Bikes Pelican 700c commuter with Pass Stow rack 4.

Re: [RBW] Re: Rocket fuel

2013-07-10 Thread tarik saleh
Norman, Excellent! Also Egypt: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com/2009/09/propane-and-nile.html and China: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com/2006/02/day-three-chinese-bikes-propane-hauler.html Later Tarik On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Norman R norr...@gmail.com wrote: Here's how the pros do it:

Re: [RBW] Re: Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread Michael Williams
This is awful news. Seth you will be missed dearly. -Mike On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: This is tragic news. ** ** *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of

Re: [RBW] Re: Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread Shoji Takahashi
I am so sad to hear this news. Seth-- you've had such a positive impact on many people, and you are missed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: 10 Bikes - could you do it?

2013-07-10 Thread Esteban
Oh, shap! I just built up a quickbeam, too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: [RBW] Re: 10 Bikes - could you do it?

2013-07-10 Thread Patrick Moore
We need a new photo archive, of stables with photo of owner. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Dude, no problem (and in honor of Seth, who always loved it when a new bike came into my garage, which is large): 1. Rivendell Protovelo 650B by Mark Nobilette

Re: [RBW] Re: 10 Bikes - could you do it?

2013-07-10 Thread William
can i use that? Oh, SHAP! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread Philip Williamson
My friend and ex-coworker knew Seth from his open-source software life, and had corresponded with him. He touched a lot of people in a positive way. So genuine and kind, and engaged. Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:53:16 AM UTC-7, William wrote: Like many of you my

Re: [RBW] Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread Joe Broach
Jack, thanks so much for posting. I think we're all stunned and heartbroken over the loss of Seth and doubly so that he seemed to be adding so much to the world. Please keep us in the loop if there'll be any sort of memorial fund for Seth. Whether it goes to bike advocacy, another of his passions,

Re: [RBW] Re: Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread erik jensen
really sad. i hope the perpetrators are held accountable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To

Re: [RBW] Re: 10 Bikes - could you do it?

2013-07-10 Thread Mike Schiller
No fair Esteban.. you already have 11. My wife and I cut a deal and 5 is the magic number based on our bike storage capability. ~mike On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:11:26 AM UTC-7, Esteban wrote: Oh, shap! I just built up a quickbeam, too. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread James Warren
This has been hard news to take, and I know I'm not alone in being confused and disturbed and saddened by this. There are a few groups of people in my lifethat I think of as family to varying degrees, and this is one of them. It's because of the consistently reliable input from people like

Re: [RBW] Re: Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread Robert Barr
The postcards that this group and others in the Riv world sent to my late friend Nick Cassell, were initially a source of great encouragement for him, and when he died, for his his family and friends. His son arranged all the post cards on two panels that were prominently displayed at his

[RBW] Re: Fender install on Riv

2013-07-10 Thread stevef
Sidepull brakes, right? Older Riv (most all bike/brands actually) road bikes were limited by the short reach calipers of that era. I doubt you'd be able to fit much more than a 25mm tire and 35mm fender. And it is probably not optimized for fender installation (chain/seat stay bridge

[RBW] Lots for sale - frames and parts! Salsa, Paul, Brooks, Thomson

2013-07-10 Thread bo richardson
i will take the touring cantis if i can out of town till sat so may not be able to paypal tll then but could try if i had the right eemaail adress sorry not to reply directly to author on the road limitaations thaanks bo richardsson bellinghaam -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: 10 Bikes - could you do it?

2013-07-10 Thread ColonelJLloyd
Just a few months ago I did have 10 bikes (9 and one tandem). I've sold or am currently selling 5 of those so I have less overlap in the bikes' purpose, more room in the basement and more time to wrench. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners

[RBW] Lots for sale - frames and parts! Salsa, Paul, Brooks, Thomson

2013-07-10 Thread justinaugust
SRAM Force Compact crankset w/ GPX BB (50/34) - $50 Email me pictures and length? -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Running Amok in Portland

2013-07-10 Thread franklyn
We were in Portland at around the same time. In fact, we double-dipped portland with a trip to the San Juan Island in between. Looks like you had a great ride--would have loved to join. Here is my set on the first leg in portland. http://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/sets/72157634576388553/

Re: [RBW] Re: Classy bottle

2013-07-10 Thread Rex Kerr
There is a disclaimer on the packaging for the cafetop that says that it's not leakproof, so this is a good warning. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 4:56 AM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: The cafe tops, in my experience, offer no seal though. I've gotten coffee all over legs and filled up the pocket

Re: [RBW] Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread Michael Hechmer
Jack, thanks for sharing the update. Please keep us informed. If the family decides on a memorial fund we will all want to know about it. If you think it appropriate we would like to have a personal address to send our love and support to his family. Michael Westford, VT On Tuesday, July

[RBW] FS: 61 cm Atlantis 2150.00

2013-07-10 Thread Kelly
Ok here are e photos and contact info. This is not my bike and I get nothing if sold or not. This thing is pristine and would pass for new. He wants 2000 without wheels. Freight is Not included Photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157634579220753/ Contact

Re: [RBW] Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread Jack Warman
You're welcome. Everything that folks here have noted is true. I know Seth enjoyed the owners bunch quite a bit - conversations from this group shifted to our lunch conversations on more than one occasion. And talking about all of you was no different from talking about our IRL friends here in

Re: [RBW] Chris King Headset

2013-07-10 Thread Joe Bernard
As with many pricey things you can put on a bicycle, sometimes it's pretty, it's light, and I want it are darn good reasons to put it there. Joe not a headset geek, but I get it Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 6:42:20 AM UTC-7, stevef wrote: American designed and made, to

Re: [RBW] Re: Classy bottle

2013-07-10 Thread justinaugust
Ah, interesting! Instructions? Who reads those? :) With egg on my face, Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread Hiawatha Cyclery
I had several pleasant and a few heated personal communications with Seth over the years. He was obviously passionate about cycling. We had plans to meet a few years ago at Richmond NAHBS, but some last minute something prevented our meeting. I always figured I'd cross Seth's path eventually.

[RBW] Re: Rocket fuel

2013-07-10 Thread Jay B
and how us amateurs do it in Denver! http://www.flickr.com/photos/jayburkhalter/5582415632/ -Jay B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Rocket fuel

2013-07-10 Thread Christopher Chen
This settles all large saddlesack arguments. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Jay B burk...@yahoo.com wrote: and how us amateurs do it in Denver! http://www.flickr.com/photos/jayburkhalter/5582415632/ -Jay B. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Rocket fuel

2013-07-10 Thread Anne Paulson
I thought the Appaloosa was the Riv long-tail. It's not as long as the XtraCycle, but usefully long. On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:05 PM, bwphoto bwphotograph...@gmail.com wrote: Over the weekend we ran out of propane for the grill and we had an extra empty canister that needed to go back ...a

[RBW] good ride

2013-07-10 Thread erik jensen
hi everyone: been a while since i've posted on the list, but i figured some of you might enjoy the photos from my most recent off road tour -- a traverse of the sierra entirely on dirt from truckee to auburn. bikenoir.blogspot.com a protobomba, hunqapillar, and mb-1 were the usual suspects. a

[RBW] Re: Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread Matthew J
Nice guy. Along with back and forth here and on other forums, Seth sent me thoughtful e-mails off line. Really very sad news. On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 2:03:07 PM UTC-5, Peter Pesce wrote: via Twitter: *ThePathLessPedaled* @*pathlesspedaled*

Re: [RBW] good ride

2013-07-10 Thread Michael Williams
dude Erik, what an amazing looking trip! Beautiful photos man! wish I was there. -Mike On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:43 PM, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.com wrote: hi everyone: been a while since i've posted on the list, but i figured some of you might enjoy the photos from my most recent

[RBW] Re: good ride

2013-07-10 Thread Deacon Patrick
Fantastic! What a grand and beautiful ride! How did the fendered bike do? I'm contemplating testing out my skills and my Hunqapillar's set up (50mm Schwalbe Dureemes and fenders) on the Colorado Trail to see how we both fair. We both do fine on the single track around here, so I'm optimistic.

Re: [RBW] good ride

2013-07-10 Thread James Chang
Wow!!! That looks amazing. Beautiful place to ride and great photography. Nice!!! On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Michael Williams mkernanwilli...@gmail.com wrote: dude Erik, what an amazing looking trip! Beautiful photos man! wish I was there. -Mike On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:43

[RBW] Re: Leather gloves (fingerless mitts) ?

2013-07-10 Thread Jim M.
The Giro Zero has an unpadded, leather palm: http://www.giro.com/us_en/products/men/gloves/zero.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] good ride

2013-07-10 Thread Brian Hanson
Erik - I've always admired your photos! Thanks for the recent batch. If you ever organized a Riv Ride combined with a photography tutorial, you would find a full crowd showing up. Brian Seattle, WA Brian Hanson Seattle, WA On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:43 PM, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.com

[RBW] Re: good ride

2013-07-10 Thread Don Compton
In the 1930's and 40's my mother, her brother, and their parents used to ride horses from Auburn to Soda Springs( Norden). It was an overnighter and my mom has always said that is was incredibly fun. I'll bet you road some of the same trails. Thanks, Don On Wednesday, July 10, 2013 6:43:41 PM

[RBW] Re: Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread Evan
I like Bob Barr's postcard suggestion. What do you-all think? If some or many of us are willing to send a postcard, and if Jack Warman agrees that a postcard memorial sounds all right, perhaps Jack could post a mailing address here? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Re: Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread Eric Norris
I'm in. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On Jul 10, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Evan evanellio...@gmail.com wrote: I like Bob Barr's postcard suggestion. What do you-all think? If some or many of us are willing to send a postcard, and if Jack Warman agrees

Re: [RBW] Re: Terrible News

2013-07-10 Thread Brian Hanson
http://stonehog.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/a-sad-day/ I would love to send something along to Seth's family/friends. Brian Seattle, WA Brian Hanson Seattle, WA On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: I'm in. Eric N www.CampyOnly.com