[RBW] Re: Bike geometry and pain
This is my Batavus: https://flic.kr/p/8RBm2N (may she rest in peace) The wheelbase is much longer than the Betty Foy, and the seat tube angle is more slack, so when I'm on it I'm in a sit up and beg position, similar to this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mindcaster-ezzolicious/6476153325/ Here's a side view of Rizzo: https://flic.kr/p/hUbWXm and this is a view of me riding the day I picked her up from the bike shop. https://flic.kr/p/fwqrUV - I've had a bike fitting since then, but I'm still in a forward leaning position. So while I can definitely be more upright, I don't think it's possible to be as upright as I was on the Dutch bike. Maybe I'm wrong about that. However, having spent three years with that bike on Vancouver's hilly terrain, I'm not even sure I want to be that upright anymore, just more upright than I am now. On Saturday, May 17, 2014 6:19:40 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: +1. I'm not understanding why you think Betty can't be as upright as your dutch bike? How do you know that? With abandon, Patrick On Friday, May 16, 2014 10:05:40 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Cecily, You mentioned getting upright like a dutch bike. I don't know if that will solve the problem, but if that is what you want, I would think your Betty could easily be set up that way. To get yourself sitting bolt upright, with all your weight on your behind and your trunk vertical, you need to get your bars *up and back*, so your hands come up and back, closer to your trunk. You can do this with a shorter stem extension that has a high rise quill to it, like a 7cm or 8cm* extension* Technomic or Tallux stem, and set it at maximum height. Also, you can use *Albatross bars or Bosco bars* with that stem. These bars have a lot of rise, to get you higher, as well as a lot of sweep back, to get the hands closer to your trunk. Bosco has the most, I think. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb10.htm Then, you can sit bolt upright while riding. So get the bars up and back towards you. That's how I got that position on my Sam when I had Albas on it. I used an 8cm extension Tallux with Albas and it handled great, and allowed me to sit totally upright. Let us know how it goes. I will pray for you. I hope you feel better soon. God bless you, Cecily! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike geometry and pain
That's very interesting, Garth! I've made an appointment for a bike fitting at the sports physiotherapist. I'll mention this to him and see what he has to say. On Saturday, May 17, 2014 6:13:58 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote: I'd go with shorter cranks, like a 152mm or less . I'm one to question every recommendation based on tradition or someone else's experience. Does this work for me ? That's all that matters. The shorter the crank, the less range of motion required to rotate the circle of spinning. And if you think say 150mm is too short, I'm well 75 inches tall with 36 inseam to floor, with size 14/15 feet and I use 152mm Suginos, and I'm getting a pair of 140 or 145's soon. Sugino makes the XD in a 152 with 24/36/50 rings for about $100, and they have even shorter 110 BCD cranks called the Mighty Mignon in 140-155mm . Origin8 also has 110 BCD cranks for about $50, and use the same 107/110mm BB as the Sugino's. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Failing Carbon at Reach the Beach
This is getting ridiculous. Carbon fiber is obviously being used safely in airliners and Formula One race cars, but there's a whole lotta money and design analysis behind those applications, not to mention multiple levels of safety features. This material seems much more haphazardly applied to a singletrack vehicle where the lightness of the product is prized over its strength, and the only safety feature present when that sucker snaps is a helmet which doesn't even cover the whole head. This is a ticking time-bomb for the bicycle industry. Joe just because I'm alarmist doesn't mean I'm wrong Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Saturday, May 17, 2014 10:44:47 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Except now littered with carbon shards. Here's his take on it: The first guy was going downhill fast and hit a big sharp pothole. His frame cracked in the BB area but it was rideable to get him to the next stop. I almost understand with that kind of impact, but I would have figured the tires and rim would have blown first. They seemed fine! The second guy was a minute ahead of me on a downhill corner. He was a smaller/lighter guy. His right side chain stay collapsed into itself just like a telescope. It did not buckle out or in, just crunched about 3/4 of an inch. This pushed the wheel into the left side brake and frame causing it to lock up. He crashed, but was mostly ok. He said the frame was previously undamaged and it looked nice to me. Shocking to see a material just crush longitudinally! It had shards of carbon just poking out all around the crush zone. Both newer madones. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Philip Williamson philip.w...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I never did get to ride down the Little Nestucca River Road when I lived up there. Good reason to visit! Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Squishy Brakes
As long as the angle of the canti arm is less than 90° from vertical, lowering the straddle cable always increases mechanical advantage. See MAITOY http://www.circleacycles.com/cantilevers/. If you're looking for more mechanical advantage (although that is not necessarily what you need to do to improve braking performance) you could try lowering the straddle cable and shortening the distance between the brake pads and the brake arm. The latter effectively reduces the canti angle which should increase the mechanical advantage of wide-profile cantis, in theory at least... Having said all that, I could never get the Tektro CR720s on my Bombadil to stop satisfactorily, so I replaced them with Shimano V-brakes—a massive improvement. I still have the CR720s in my parts bin and I'll try them again on my next build to see if they work better when there are no fenders and racks to clear, allowing a much lower straddle cable. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Squishy Brakes
Also meant to say, from the description of squishy lever feel mechanical advantage may not be the problem, and I'd also try better brake pads before anything else. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Squishy Brakes
Canti brakes are really like art , madness and bliss are but two sides of the same coin. Besides all that is listed, make sure the cables move freely through the housing. Check the cable end cuts too for any interference. Your levers are fine, but a good way to check if your lever and cables are pulling and moving freely is to unhook the cable end from the straddle wire, then hold down the cable end with one hand, and then apply the lever with the other. The cable should move and feel responsive and easy. Also, the distance from the top tube cable stop to the rear canti cable stop can also effect the brakes. As long as it moves freely by the above test, it's good. But if it's not moving easy this may be one cause. Generally as direct route as possible to the canti cable stop is the best. On Saturday, May 17, 2014 6:45:40 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Compared with the brakes on my Hunqapillar, the Quickbeam’s brakes feel squishy. They could use some tightening, but not by much (and are worn about half way). Possible causes I could think of: — New pads (these are the stock Tektro pads), I’d put on the kwikstops (qwikstops?). — The QB has aero-levers vs. the Hunqapillar’s non-aero-levers. Could that contribute to squish? Other ideas? I prefer to start simple first, of course. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for a high capacity canvas banana bag
Patrick , I gots news for ya. 1. Banana bags sway . 2.Revelate bags make no noise as they are firmly secure on the bike. I've loaded my Pika pretty good and it did not sway at all :) ( I stand alot on climbs) When I owned a Riv banana bag, it swayed all the time. Even the Pika dwarfs a Banana bag in capacity :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike geometry and pain
Cecily: I hope you solve the problem and get to ride the BF comfortably. I've often wondered whether the very slack seat tube angles (contributing to the extremely bolt upright position on Dutch and old English city bikes -- very short top tubes or at least effective top tubes, bars coming back to the knees or beyond) doesn't contribute to their rideability, when, with a steeper seat tube angle, such a bolt upright position might not compromise fit and power output. Certainly the DL-1 clones I used were not undergeared: IIRC, ~70 gear inches) and required a lot of torque to climb or accelerate; does the slack seat tube allow this? Similarly with regard to body position: do the very close bars require a much slacker angle, at least for many people? Or are the slack st angles merely historical accident? On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.comwrote: This is my Batavus: https://flic.kr/p/8RBm2N (may she rest in peace) The wheelbase is much longer than the Betty Foy, and the seat tube angle is more slack, so when I'm on it I'm in a sit up and beg position, similar to this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mindcaster-ezzolicious/ 6476153325/ Here's a side view of Rizzo: https://flic.kr/p/hUbWXm and this is a view of me riding the day I picked her up from the bike shop. https://flic.kr/p/fwqrUV - I've had a bike fitting since then, but I'm still in a forward leaning position. So while I can definitely be more upright, I don't think it's possible to be as upright as I was on the Dutch bike. Maybe I'm wrong about that. However, having spent three years with that bike on Vancouver's hilly terrain, I'm not even sure I want to be that upright anymore, just more upright than I am now. On Saturday, May 17, 2014 6:19:40 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: +1. I'm not understanding why you think Betty can't be as upright as your dutch bike? How do you know that? With abandon, Patrick On Friday, May 16, 2014 10:05:40 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Cecily, You mentioned getting upright like a dutch bike. I don't know if that will solve the problem, but if that is what you want, I would think your Betty could easily be set up that way. To get yourself sitting bolt upright, with all your weight on your behind and your trunk vertical, you need to get your bars *up and back*, so your hands come up and back, closer to your trunk. You can do this with a shorter stem extension that has a high rise quill to it, like a 7cm or 8cm* extension* Technomic or Tallux stem, and set it at maximum height. Also, you can use *Albatross bars or Bosco bars* with that stem. These bars have a lot of rise, to get you higher, as well as a lot of sweep back, to get the hands closer to your trunk. Bosco has the most, I think. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb10.htm Then, you can sit bolt upright while riding. So get the bars up and back towards you. That's how I got that position on my Sam when I had Albas on it. I used an 8cm extension Tallux with Albas and it handled great, and allowed me to sit totally upright. Let us know how it goes. I will pray for you. I hope you feel better soon. God bless you, Cecily! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for a high capacity canvas banana bag
On my go-fast, I have an Acorn roll-up tubular bag - unfortunately Ron has discontinued this bag, and he made me, gratis, several useful tag loops for the straps http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aaaP5180002.jpg This is my roadside bag - it doesn't sway, and it's only open when I have a roadside emergency. It carries a fold-up spare, two tubes, valve cores, 2 oz. Stans, 1/4 oz Zap-a-gap, full set of tools and a rag. I've received many compliments about the bag at stops. I use a Randi-Jo Bartender for personal items. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aaaP5180001.jpg Wallet, keys, cell phone, sunglass lenses, 60-g adjustment tool - or a Deviant Dale's - the bag is insulated. On Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:46:37 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote: Patrick , I gots news for ya. 1. Banana bags sway . 2.Revelate bags make no noise as they are firmly secure on the bike. I've loaded my Pika pretty good and it did not sway at all :) ( I stand alot on climbs) When I owned a Riv banana bag, it swayed all the time. Even the Pika dwarfs a Banana bag in capacity :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Recommendations for a high capacity canvas banana bag
Deacon: I am using a very nice, large Jandd Mountain Wedge III that expands via a half-circumferential zipper midway down the bag and, when expanded, holds as much (though not as conveniently) as the Carradice Junior. It is meant to be used with bungees from bottom rear of bag to dropout, but I don't use these, and without it does sway more than the Junior it replaced when I strapped the Junior directly to the saddle rails (old Flite); the non-transverse arrangement of a very deep wedge makes it more liable to sway. If you don't mind the back of your legs brushing the front of the bag -- how much depends on how far your saddle is pushed back -- why don't you try simply strapping it tightly to the rails? I sometimes have to use pliers to get the second strap as tightly buckled as possible, but I've done this with Nelson non-Longflaps and Juniors with no problems. This is my model: http://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FMW3 But this may be a later model: http://www.mpgear.com/bg2531/jandd-mountain-wedge-3-seat-bag-black?utm_source=googlebaseutm_medium=CSEkw=%7Bkeyword%7Dutm_term=Jandd+Mountain+Wedge+3+Seat+Bag%3A+Blackutm_campaign=balanced Carradice has some: https://carradice.co.uk/index.php?page_id=categorycategory_id=29 But in my experience, a tightly cinched transverse bag sways less, at least sideways, than a very large fore-and-aft saddle wedge. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: My small saddle sack on the QB sways too much and messes with my vertigo, but I need a similar capacity carrying solution (I’d rather avoid a front rack or handlebar bag). I dislike frame bags. I need to carry my tool kit, pocket rain shell, wool top layer, hats (sun, cold), wool gloves, wool socks, and have room left for shade shirt, bottle of butter, and other oddities. Prefer something that doesn’t touch the thigh. Because of my scent issue, I need to buy new, otherwise I’d ask if anyone had something they weren’t using. Recommendations? Thanks! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Inaugural Ride
46 gear for 20 miles of 10% grade -- I *am* impressed! How much did you walk? http://www.fatcyclist.com/2012/08/01/a-handy-guide-to-climbing-grades/ On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: The Quickbeam arrived! Well packed and in excellent condition. The first gift was to learn that drop bars and vertigo do not play well together. So I swapped them out for Albastache and all is good! 66 cm is the perfect size and what an amazing ride! The MSO tires handle the dirt exceptionally well. Fantastic inaugural ride of 20 miles up to 10,000 feet and then down some single track. She handles beautifully. Similarly to the Hunqapillar and yet quicker, lighter, faster, more responsive. Christened A’ Ghaoth Airgead (Ah-Goo Air-uh-get): Gaelic for The Silver Wind” A few initial photos, though I forgot my phone/camera in my excitement to head out, so no shots in the wild yet. https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157644719995654/ I kept gearing simple to start, just using my low of 32-19 for climbing and high of 40-16 for the return home. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Inaugural Ride
Inaugural rides are a sublime experience. I am so glad the bike is working out for you. May you enjoy countless joyful rides. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike geometry and pain
Cecily, thanks for the photos, that clarifies the differences very well ! It's obvious the Dutch bike has a much higher front-of-frame than the the Betty . And the seat and heat tube angles must be like 65 degrees or so. Having seen both, I can see why you're not comfortable on the Betty. Frankly, the two bikes are vastly different and trying to make the Betty be like the Dutch is an effort in futility because you'll never be able to get the seat back far enough. If you want a bike like the Dutch one, I'd have one made to fit just like a Dutch Bike with the proper angles and very tall front end !Why not ? You deserve it :) I see a few Dutch bike makers in the US, but I'm not sure if they are the kind of bike you are looking for or not . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike geometry and pain
To clarify, not only the seat , but the bars can never back as far on a Betty than on the Dutch bike. The seat and head angles of the frame are just too different and the Betty was never meant to be Dutch-like . Make sense ? You know , don't try to make a banana and apple ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Setting Quickbeam Chain Length
Following the least amount of teeth to the rear rule, I get this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/14026731538/ One less link, and I can’t get into my 40-16 to the front. I’m guessing this is too far back, but would love to know you’re all’s experience. I'm good with having the 40-16 high, 32-19 mid, and eventually a 32-22 low (with a 22t on the flip side). But I'd love to have this 40-16 if practicable. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Inaugural Ride
The climb is from 7,800 feet to 10,000 feet over 7 miles, so I doubt it's 10% the whole way. there are parts that are 12-14% though. So, not nearly as impressive as you thought, Patrick. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:10:18 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: 46 gear for 20 miles of 10% grade -- I *am* impressed! How much did you walk? http://www.fatcyclist.com/2012/08/01/a-handy-guide-to-climbing-grades/ On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: The Quickbeam arrived! Well packed and in excellent condition. The first gift was to learn that drop bars and vertigo do not play well together. So I swapped them out for Albastache and all is good! 66 cm is the perfect size and what an amazing ride! The MSO tires handle the dirt exceptionally well. Fantastic inaugural ride of 20 miles up to 10,000 feet and then down some single track. She handles beautifully. Similarly to the Hunqapillar and yet quicker, lighter, faster, more responsive. Christened A’ Ghaoth Airgead (Ah-Goo Air-uh-get): Gaelic for The Silver Wind” A few initial photos, though I forgot my phone/camera in my excitement to head out, so no shots in the wild yet. https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157644719995654/ I kept gearing simple to start, just using my low of 32-19 for climbing and high of 40-16 for the return home. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Squishy Brakes
I totally agree that straddle cable geometry is Everything, But, new Kool Stop cartridge pads have a concave shape, that if you lightly run them up and gently apply your brakes before you snug and tighten you spherical bearing cartridge, they self adjust for flatness and toe-in. Not exactly instant brakes, but after you wear off the tail of that concave, you will notice markedly better brakes. On Saturday, May 17, 2014 6:49:26 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: My QBs (two) came with crappy Shimano cantis, not crappy Tektros. I put on Kl Stops on the first one to compensate. On the second (current) one, I raised/lengthened the straddle cable and it's worked pretty well. Kol Stops are on stand-by though. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Jim M. math...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: On Saturday, May 17, 2014 4:35:10 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote: maybe crappy brakes. what ya got? I'd agree with this if they are the Tektro's that came stock on QB's. I never found them better than adequate, and on steep dirt trails they kinda hinted at stopping. Paul's Neo-retros were the answer for me. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Setting Quickbeam Chain Length
Here is what 40-16 Top Gear looks like: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/14027380497/in/set-72157644719995654 With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS - 650b wheelset - deore hubs/rigida rims / 36 spokes - $160 plus shipping
Hi All, I've decided to sell the original wheels that came with my Saluki. Deore hubs and Rigida Sphinx 36 hole rims. They are in great condition although the decals on the rims are a bit rough. The soma tires on the rims are not included, but I'll throw in a pair of new budget line Schwalbe tires (42mm). Looking to get $160 plus actual shipping. Here are some pics: https://www.flickr.com/photos/75063912@N08/sets/72157644658986736/ Feel free to contact me off list with any questions. Thanks, gary -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Squishy Brakes
Patrick, From pictures it looks like both your bikes have the tectro 720s on them, so you should certainly be able to get the QB to have brake feel similar to what you get on the Hunqapillar. As you guessed you may want some new brake pads on there. Try and match the length of the straddle wires to what you have on your Hunqapillar. Be clear about if you feel squish after the breaks hit the rims or just want less travel to get to the rims. If you want less travel loosen the cable fixing bolt, pull a touch more brake cable through the straddle carrier and retighten the bolt (or adjust cable adjusters if you have em). If the squish is after the pads touch the rim, slowly apply the brake while looking for something that moves as the tension increases. Cables may straighten, pads may rotate (as first one end and then the other hits the rim), the front brake hanger may be flexing, etc. If you find something moving, try and get it to stop. If the front hanger moves and is steel try replacing with an aluminum one. If cables move see if adjusting their housing length will reduce the amount they change shape when you apply the brakes. If the pads are rotating adjust the toe in. good luck ted On Saturday, May 17, 2014 3:45:40 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Compared with the brakes on my Hunqapillar, the Quickbeam’s brakes feel squishy. They could use some tightening, but not by much (and are worn about half way). Possible causes I could think of: — New pads (these are the stock Tektro pads), I’d put on the kwikstops (qwikstops?). — The QB has aero-levers vs. the Hunqapillar’s non-aero-levers. Could that contribute to squish? Other ideas? I prefer to start simple first, of course. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: BB length for Atlantis with White VBC cranks?
I'm rolling a 40x24, for climbing infinity and maximum clearance. I'm within a few mm of rubbing 60s. Not sure if I have a 113 or 118 down there, been a year or so since I replaced it. On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.comwrote: Wow, really? Erik of Bikenoir/Cosmic Country mentioned 113mm BB on the Hunqapillar. I have a VBC Mountain and 113mm waiting for installation in the box... maybe I'll need to plan on a longer time window before venturing. Here's the link to the thread on 113/VBC/Hunqapillar: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!starred/rbw-owners-bunch/jE_W_ff3RSU Good luck, Mark. shoji On Friday, May 16, 2014 7:39:33 PM UTC-4, Mark Reimer wrote: Hi all, I just got a pair of White Industries mountain VBC cranks with a 46/36 ring combination for my Atlantis build. There is a 113mm BB in the frame currently and it is way too short to run these cranks, which isn't that surprising. I followed the instructions on the WI website and it looks like I'll need a BB somewhere in the 130mm range, which seems very long to me. Is anyone out there running the VBC cranks on an Atlantis? Care to share the inner ring size and BB length for comparison please? Thanks! Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- oakland, ca bikenoir.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Squishy Brakes
Thanks, everyone! I have to replace the straddle cable holder on one because I ogered it. Good news is it's still half there, so I'm good till I get her to the LBS for the part. Ted, it's the squish after the pads contact, and it feels mostly like the pads lack the grip I'm used to from the Cool Stops, so I suspect that's a major part of the answer. I will also shorten the straddle cable and see where that puts me. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for a high capacity canvas banana bag
Thanks everyone! I'm looking at modifying the Small Saddlesack as follows and seeing how that works: -- Pinch in the thigh areas and sew down. -- Strap seat post strap around seat stays instead. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Inaugural Ride
happy riding, Patrick-- silver wind... great name. Perhaps one day I'll be able to ride with you. shoji On Sunday, May 18, 2014 10:47:40 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: The climb is from 7,800 feet to 10,000 feet over 7 miles, so I doubt it's 10% the whole way. there are parts that are 12-14% though. So, not nearly as impressive as you thought, Patrick. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:10:18 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: 46 gear for 20 miles of 10% grade -- I *am* impressed! How much did you walk? http://www.fatcyclist.com/2012/08/01/a-handy-guide-to-climbing-grades/ On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: The Quickbeam arrived! Well packed and in excellent condition. The first gift was to learn that drop bars and vertigo do not play well together. So I swapped them out for Albastache and all is good! 66 cm is the perfect size and what an amazing ride! The MSO tires handle the dirt exceptionally well. Fantastic inaugural ride of 20 miles up to 10,000 feet and then down some single track. She handles beautifully. Similarly to the Hunqapillar and yet quicker, lighter, faster, more responsive. Christened A’ Ghaoth Airgead (Ah-Goo Air-uh-get): Gaelic for The Silver Wind” A few initial photos, though I forgot my phone/camera in my excitement to head out, so no shots in the wild yet. https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157644719995654/ I kept gearing simple to start, just using my low of 32-19 for climbing and high of 40-16 for the return home. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bike geometry and pain
Yes, it absolutely makes sense. I know you can't really compare the two styles, and as I said in another message, I don't want to be as upright as I was on the Dutch bike, because that position is really inefficient when you live in a city as hilly as Vancouver. But there were certain things about that style of bike I really enjoyed. Maybe the answer is to finally get my Batavus repaired. On Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:40:10 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote: To clarify, not only the seat , but the bars can never back as far on a Betty than on the Dutch bike. The seat and head angles of the frame are just too different and the Betty was never meant to be Dutch-like . Make sense ? You know , don't try to make a banana and apple ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Inaugural Ride
Patrick, if I did the basic math correctly (2,200 foot rise divided by 37,000 feet run) it's an average of 6% climb in the 46 gear for the last three miles. Shoji, sounds great! I look forward to it. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, May 18, 2014 8:47:40 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: The climb is from 7,800 feet to 10,000 feet over 7 miles, so I doubt it's 10% the whole way. there are parts that are 12-14% though. So, not nearly as impressive as you thought, Patrick. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:10:18 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: 46 gear for 20 miles of 10% grade -- I *am* impressed! How much did you walk? http://www.fatcyclist.com/2012/08/01/a-handy-guide-to-climbing-grades/ On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: The Quickbeam arrived! Well packed and in excellent condition. The first gift was to learn that drop bars and vertigo do not play well together. So I swapped them out for Albastache and all is good! 66 cm is the perfect size and what an amazing ride! The MSO tires handle the dirt exceptionally well. Fantastic inaugural ride of 20 miles up to 10,000 feet and then down some single track. She handles beautifully. Similarly to the Hunqapillar and yet quicker, lighter, faster, more responsive. Christened A’ Ghaoth Airgead (Ah-Goo Air-uh-get): Gaelic for The Silver Wind” A few initial photos, though I forgot my phone/camera in my excitement to head out, so no shots in the wild yet. https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157644719995654/ I kept gearing simple to start, just using my low of 32-19 for climbing and high of 40-16 for the return home. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Riv stuff Nitto, Gripsters, Surly ECR frameset camping bike
Hello all. I have for sale the following. Surly ECR Frameset 29+, size small, dark green . Purchased new about 3 months ago. This was an experiment to see if I liked the 29+plus size tires. I switched out the 100mm spaced front fork for a 135mm spaced MRP carbon snow fork, formerly White Bros. snow pack fork 468mm a/c with the intent to try a fat front and have the bike be more versatile.Comes very close to the geo of the stock fork. The bike was ridden off road about 10 times and some local flat trails. I do like the ride so much of the 3 tires that I might order a custom. I removed all the Surly decals from the frame. Since the front Surly fork was never used it still has the white Surly decals. The frame does have scuffs, scratches, some chain slap. but no dents. Surly paint is not know to be the best. Fairly lightweight bike when set up with the carbon fork. The frame comes w. the Troll disc brake adapter and the Surly headbadge and Natch sticker. They have lost their stickiness.Frame and new Surly fork. $550.00. $35.00 shipping. MRPS Snowpack Carbon fork 468mm a/c spaced 135mm $275.00 shipped. Or all for $825. shipped. Contact off list for photos. Nitto Lugged stem 26. 12cm $185.00 Nitto Lugged seatpost 27.2 $175.00 Thin Gripster pedals well used $40.00 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Setting Quickbeam Chain Length
I posted this on the flickr comments, but thought I would say it here as well: I find that I never use my 32X16T (littleXlittle) combo on my QB. I switch between 40 charingring and the 16T and 18T cogs fairly often. But when I need to drop to the 32 chainring, then that means I'm seriously in need of some low gearing and therefore bypass the 16T. YMMV of course, but I can say that I don't recall ever using the littleXlittle combo. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Here is what 40-16 Top Gear looks like: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/14027380497 /in/set-72157644719995654 With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike geometry and pain
Garth nailed it pretty well. From this photo https://www.flickr.com/photos/cecily/9578404571 I would only add that it looks like you can put on a much shorter stem, and get some bars that don't go as far forward before looping back. That combo could get you more upright, but not as much as your Dutch bike. Here is the Bosco profile and you can see how it doesn't go forward first: http://cdn3.volusion.com/ctxtv.wmppt/v/vspfiles/photos/hb11-3.jpg?1363791017 An expense and hassle to swap out bars/stem, but cheaper than a new bike!!! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Cecily Walker cecily.wal...@gmail.comwrote: Yes, it absolutely makes sense. I know you can't really compare the two styles, and as I said in another message, I don't want to be as upright as I was on the Dutch bike, because that position is really inefficient when you live in a city as hilly as Vancouver. But there were certain things about that style of bike I really enjoyed. Maybe the answer is to finally get my Batavus repaired. On Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:40:10 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote: To clarify, not only the seat , but the bars can never back as far on a Betty than on the Dutch bike. The seat and head angles of the frame are just too different and the Betty was never meant to be Dutch-like . Make sense ? You know , don't try to make a banana and apple ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for a high capacity canvas banana bag
You may like the Baggins Little Joe if you can find a used one: https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=baggins%20little%20joe Relatively narrow for when you're pushing, but holds a lot of stuff! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Thanks everyone! I'm looking at modifying the Small Saddlesack as follows and seeing how that works: -- Pinch in the thigh areas and sew down. -- Strap seat post strap around seat stays instead. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Bosque Ramble
To and from church, total 20 miles. I tried to find my way back from north 4th Street via the acequia roads but missed a turn and ended up at a private property dead end and had to backtrack a couple of miles on 4th Street. There *is* a way, though. In paces the big acequia dirt roads dwindle to singletrack on both sides of the ditch. The big roads are getting churned up into fine sand, but the soil is firm on the less used tracks. Rivendell content: the Fargo is a wannabee Hunquapillar. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * Nothing outside you can give you any place, [the Misfit] said. You needn't look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?” ― Flannery O'Connorhttp://www.goodreads.com/author/show/22694.Flannery_O_Connor , *Wise Blood http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1046530* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Too wide and tall, alas. 32s do well with fenders but there's not much more room left over. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:44 AM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried to cram in Compass 1.5s yet? I assume they're equally fantastic to their 650b counterparts. At 37mm, too big but maybe with some fender manipulation? -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
From what I can google, Pasela no longer makes the 559X1.25 except in a Tourguard model. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Have plain Paselas proven too flat prone for you? Based on BQ's testing, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat the humble Pasela in performance even at 2-3x the price. They haven't tested the Kojak, but the very similar Marathon Racer was slightly slower. Where I ride (no goatheads!), the plain Pasela's been just as flat resistant as the Tourguard. I've gotten 1 flat about every 600 miles with 700x32s. There's also the new T-serv PT from Panaracer that saves some weight (kevlar bead) and has a new flat protection layer. Best, joe broach portland, or On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: If you wanted a fattish but also fastish tire, and you couldn't go wider than 32 mm (if you want to use fenders), which would you choose? There isn't a huge amount of comment on the Racers; most of it old and on recumbent forums, which give them good marks. Even less on the Tom Slick. I think the short list is Kojaks or Racers, so if anyone has any parting thoughts before I spring, please speak. Before I got my Parigi Roubaix I though the Kojaks were top o' the line, but they don't feel quite as spritely as the Challenges. OTOH, not many tires are and I must say that of all the 59X ~ 32s I've used, the Ks are so far the best. I've not used the Racers and it has been too long since I used Tom Slicks -- 13-15 years? Interested first in speed with sufficient width to bear up under rear loads (otherwise I'd use the 1 Turbos in my stash), then flat resistance, then longevity, then cost. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Inaugural Ride
That's still an average of 6% over 7 miles of doubtless rocky dirt, so still a fun challenge. Did you bail on the 12-14% sections? (Wimp.) Patrick OTOH, all the nearby singletrack I ride varies about 10 feet in 20 miles, so what do I know? Moore, who used the 61, 64, 67, and (briefly, on pavement, with tailwind) 72 gears today on his flat, sandy, dirt road/dirt singltrack/pavement ride. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: The climb is from 7,800 feet to 10,000 feet over 7 miles, so I doubt it's 10% the whole way. there are parts that are 12-14% though. So, not nearly as impressive as you thought, Patrick. Grin. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Inaugural Ride
BTW, you might consider switching to an old school, all-steel, internal cam QR in place of the bolts, this for quicker shifts. I particularly like the old XT skewers with the rubber padded levers. (IIRC, the QB has a rear over-locknut of 135mm, no? At any rate, the XTs work fine on 130, too.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike geometry and pain
The Bosco bar with a short and high stem like this Soma http://www.yellowjersey.org/stemz.html would help, and I was going to suggest that , but then I saw the photos of the Dutch bike and I kinda doubted it would be close enough still. I think the thing to do is to measure the virtual middle of seat to virtual middle of the grips on the Dutch bike . Then use a straight edge or something to measure the angle upward between those two points. Now mimic that on the Betty by using the straightedge and the same angle upward and distance to the mid hand grip and see if it's even in the ballpark of doable. I suspect it will be long even with Bosco bars and the Soma , but that's just a guess. Actually doing the above would give a clearer answer. Also, Imagine the seat, bottom bracket and hand grip as a triangle of fixed lengths and angles . Since that works for Cecily on the Dutch bike , and other bike should be able to mimic that triangle of body points. If you want say, a slightly steeper seat tube angle , the seat and top lengths of the triangle remain the same , but as the seat angle of the triangle changes, the downtube length of the triangle would change. Does that make sense ( I can picture all of this in my mind, just not sure if it's transferring to the word !) ? On Sunday, May 18, 2014 3:45:20 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Garth nailed it pretty well. From this photo https://www.flickr.com/photos/cecily/9578404571 I would only add that it looks like you can put on a much shorter stem, and get some bars that don't go as far forward before looping back. That combo could get you more upright, but not as much as your Dutch bike. Here is the Bosco profile and you can see how it doesn't go forward first: http://cdn3.volusion.com/ctxtv.wmppt/v/vspfiles/photos/hb11-3.jpg?1363791017 An expense and hassle to swap out bars/stem, but cheaper than a new bike!!! Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bike geometry and pain
A high rise 1 to 1 1/8 threadless adapter with one of those no extension stems people use on fixed gear freestyle bikes would help get the bars back as well. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Inaugural Ride
Actually I think the old is 120, so those antique campi qrs from the late 70s probably Work -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Inaugural Ride
If it's only 120 (is it? since so many modern flip flop hubs are 130) I'll be happy to send along an old all-steel rear QR for postage. Nothing fancy, certainly not Campy -- no-name French or old Shimano -- but perfectly serviceable. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:59 PM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote: Actually I think the old is 120, so those antique campi qrs from the late 70s probably Work -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for a high capacity canvas banana bag
I have a baggins country bag (May be similar to the little joe) that would work very well. I'm not parting with mine but perhaps you can find one. The old style bagman support woks very well with this relatively square bag, affixed to the support there is zero sway and zero thigh contact. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Patrick, Have you had a local shop confirm they're discontinued? I just googled pasela 26x1.25 wire and saw lots of stock of the non-TGs, but maybe that's the end of them. If so, the new PT models look promising. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: From what I can google, Pasela no longer makes the 559X1.25 except in a Tourguard model. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Have plain Paselas proven too flat prone for you? Based on BQ's testing, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat the humble Pasela in performance even at 2-3x the price. They haven't tested the Kojak, but the very similar Marathon Racer was slightly slower. Where I ride (no goatheads!), the plain Pasela's been just as flat resistant as the Tourguard. I've gotten 1 flat about every 600 miles with 700x32s. There's also the new T-serv PT from Panaracer that saves some weight (kevlar bead) and has a new flat protection layer. Best, joe broach portland, or On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: If you wanted a fattish but also fastish tire, and you couldn't go wider than 32 mm (if you want to use fenders), which would you choose? There isn't a huge amount of comment on the Racers; most of it old and on recumbent forums, which give them good marks. Even less on the Tom Slick. I think the short list is Kojaks or Racers, so if anyone has any parting thoughts before I spring, please speak. Before I got my Parigi Roubaix I though the Kojaks were top o' the line, but they don't feel quite as spritely as the Challenges. OTOH, not many tires are and I must say that of all the 59X ~ 32s I've used, the Ks are so far the best. I've not used the Racers and it has been too long since I used Tom Slicks -- 13-15 years? Interested first in speed with sufficient width to bear up under rear loads (otherwise I'd use the 1 Turbos in my stash), then flat resistance, then longevity, then cost. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Inaugural Ride
My simple one is 120, and the RBW geometry charts say 120 for the so. I would be surprised if the qb was wider, but i guess I'm not really certain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Joe: I can't find anything online about the PT model; the only information that I am confident is up to date is about the TG version. Can you point me to a site? I put several thousand miles on the non TG 559X 32 Paselas and they were fine for the price, but I don't recall finding them as nice as the similar Kojak: 1. They seemed much more sensitive to pressure: a much finer line between harsh and saggy. 2. They were indeed flat prone, but that can be cured by Stan's. OTOH, the Kojak is quite flat resistant while rolling at least as nicely as the Pasela. 3. The sidewalls were fragile; so was the tread, come to think of it: I put 1,200 miles on a rear once in 30 feet when my Bagman QR suddenly quick-released at speed, flipping the Nelson back onto the rear tire and locking it. The skid took off all of the tread in a 1.5 long section. OTOH again, they rolled well when inflated right and the price is certainly good (though I just saw them online at $36 and change). On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Have you had a local shop confirm they're discontinued? I just googled pasela 26x1.25 wire and saw lots of stock of the non-TGs, but maybe that's the end of them. If so, the new PT models look promising. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: From what I can google, Pasela no longer makes the 559X1.25 except in a Tourguard model. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Have plain Paselas proven too flat prone for you? Based on BQ's testing, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat the humble Pasela in performance even at 2-3x the price. They haven't tested the Kojak, but the very similar Marathon Racer was slightly slower. Where I ride (no goatheads!), the plain Pasela's been just as flat resistant as the Tourguard. I've gotten 1 flat about every 600 miles with 700x32s. There's also the new T-serv PT from Panaracer that saves some weight (kevlar bead) and has a new flat protection layer. Best, joe broach portland, or On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: If you wanted a fattish but also fastish tire, and you couldn't go wider than 32 mm (if you want to use fenders), which would you choose? There isn't a huge amount of comment on the Racers; most of it old and on recumbent forums, which give them good marks. Even less on the Tom Slick. I think the short list is Kojaks or Racers, so if anyone has any parting thoughts before I spring, please speak. Before I got my Parigi Roubaix I though the Kojaks were top o' the line, but they don't feel quite as spritely as the Challenges. OTOH, not many tires are and I must say that of all the 59X ~ 32s I've used, the Ks are so far the best. I've not used the Racers and it has been too long since I used Tom Slicks -- 13-15 years? Interested first in speed with sufficient width to bear up under rear loads (otherwise I'd use the 1 Turbos in my stash), then flat resistance, then longevity, then cost. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Inaugural Ride
My last gen silver QB has an OLD of 120. The QR skewer that came with the standard Suzue hub works fine for me. -Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Let me amend that: I can't find any website that clearly states the specs for the non-TG Pasela. I find a lot of ebay and amazon but no specs. Also, many of the sites refer to 622 or 630 sizes. Any further help greatly appreciated. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Joe: I can't find anything online about the PT model; the only information that I am confident is up to date is about the TG version. Can you point me to a site? I put several thousand miles on the non TG 559X 32 Paselas and they were fine for the price, but I don't recall finding them as nice as the similar Kojak: 1. They seemed much more sensitive to pressure: a much finer line between harsh and saggy. 2. They were indeed flat prone, but that can be cured by Stan's. OTOH, the Kojak is quite flat resistant while rolling at least as nicely as the Pasela. 3. The sidewalls were fragile; so was the tread, come to think of it: I put 1,200 miles on a rear once in 30 feet when my Bagman QR suddenly quick-released at speed, flipping the Nelson back onto the rear tire and locking it. The skid took off all of the tread in a 1.5 long section. OTOH again, they rolled well when inflated right and the price is certainly good (though I just saw them online at $36 and change). On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Have you had a local shop confirm they're discontinued? I just googled pasela 26x1.25 wire and saw lots of stock of the non-TGs, but maybe that's the end of them. If so, the new PT models look promising. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: From what I can google, Pasela no longer makes the 559X1.25 except in a Tourguard model. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick, Have plain Paselas proven too flat prone for you? Based on BQ's testing, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat the humble Pasela in performance even at 2-3x the price. They haven't tested the Kojak, but the very similar Marathon Racer was slightly slower. Where I ride (no goatheads!), the plain Pasela's been just as flat resistant as the Tourguard. I've gotten 1 flat about every 600 miles with 700x32s. There's also the new T-serv PT from Panaracer that saves some weight (kevlar bead) and has a new flat protection layer. Best, joe broach portland, or On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: If you wanted a fattish but also fastish tire, and you couldn't go wider than 32 mm (if you want to use fenders), which would you choose? There isn't a huge amount of comment on the Racers; most of it old and on recumbent forums, which give them good marks. Even less on the Tom Slick. I think the short list is Kojaks or Racers, so if anyone has any parting thoughts before I spring, please speak. Before I got my Parigi Roubaix I though the Kojaks were top o' the line, but they don't feel quite as spritely as the Challenges. OTOH, not many tires are and I must say that of all the 59X ~ 32s I've used, the Ks are so far the best. I've not used the Racers and it has been too long since I used Tom Slicks -- 13-15 years? Interested first in speed with sufficient width to bear up under rear loads (otherwise I'd use the 1 Turbos in my stash), then flat resistance, then longevity, then cost. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In
Re: [RBW] Re: One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Garth: my brother's opinion, which I respect, is that the Metro Ks are not bad -- as good as Fatboys -- but not as nice rolling as Kojaks. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: I can't speak of either tire. I can however, speak to the Performance Metro K . I have the 700x35 but it also comes in 26x1.25. Low rolling resistance was the first impression, with a little sing to them . I've used them for a couple of years now . http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/Product_10052_10551_1070099_-1___00# check the reviews, FWIW, if you want a broader opinion :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Inaugural Ride
I stand corrected. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: My last gen silver QB has an OLD of 120. The QR skewer that came with the standard Suzue hub works fine for me. -Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for a high capacity canvas banana bag
they're still out there - Frost River made Baggins Bags for Riv https://www.frostriver.com/shop/caribou-trail-bike-bag/ - even the candy bar bag is now the Sawbill Trail The Echo Trail may be close enough to your requirements Deac https://www.frostriver.com/shop/echo-trail-seat-bag/ On Sunday, May 18, 2014 4:10:27 PM UTC-5, ted wrote: I have a baggins country bag (May be similar to the little joe) that would work very well. I'm not parting with mine but perhaps you can find one. The old style bagman support woks very well with this relatively square bag, affixed to the support there is zero sway and zero thigh contact. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Failing Carbon at Reach the Beach
Agreed. It maybe a great material to make stuff out of, but the bike industry is trying to go lighter and lighter so the consumer can get bragging points and it is a recipe for disaster. After seeing my buddy get hauled off in an ambulance because of a fork (trek madone again) that got sheared off I'm not inclined to trust carbon from most manufacturers. On Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:34:33 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: This is getting ridiculous. Carbon fiber is obviously being used safely in airliners and Formula One race cars, but there's a whole lotta money and design analysis behind those applications, not to mention multiple levels of safety features. This material seems much more haphazardly applied to a singletrack vehicle where the lightness of the product is prized over its strength, and the only safety feature present when that sucker snaps is a helmet which doesn't even cover the whole head. This is a ticking time-bomb for the bicycle industry. Joe just because I'm alarmist doesn't mean I'm wrong Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Saturday, May 17, 2014 10:44:47 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Except now littered with carbon shards. Here's his take on it: The first guy was going downhill fast and hit a big sharp pothole. His frame cracked in the BB area but it was rideable to get him to the next stop. I almost understand with that kind of impact, but I would have figured the tires and rim would have blown first. They seemed fine! The second guy was a minute ahead of me on a downhill corner. He was a smaller/lighter guy. His right side chain stay collapsed into itself just like a telescope. It did not buckle out or in, just crunched about 3/4 of an inch. This pushed the wheel into the left side brake and frame causing it to lock up. He crashed, but was mostly ok. He said the frame was previously undamaged and it looked nice to me. Shocking to see a material just crush longitudinally! It had shards of carbon just poking out all around the crush zone. Both newer madones. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Philip Williamson philip.w...@gmail.com wrote: I never did get to ride down the Little Nestucca River Road when I lived up there. Good reason to visit! Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for a high capacity canvas banana bag
I have the Baggins bag that is similar to the Frost River Echo Trail. There is absolutely no way you could fit a sun hat, a wool hat, wool socks, a windbreaker, a shade shirt, a bottle of butter and a wool top layer in that bag unless those items were sized for a Barbie doll. The Echo Trail ad copy says it can fit tools, a spare tube, a windbreaker and lunch-- maybe, if it's not very many tools, a thin windbreaker, a thin tube for a 25 mm tire and a squashed sandwich. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: they're still out there - Frost River made Baggins Bags for Riv https://www.frostriver.com/shop/caribou-trail-bike-bag/ - even the candy bar bag is now the Sawbill Trail The Echo Trail may be close enough to your requirements Deac https://www.frostriver.com/shop/echo-trail-seat-bag/ On Sunday, May 18, 2014 4:10:27 PM UTC-5, ted wrote: I have a baggins country bag (May be similar to the little joe) that would work very well. I'm not parting with mine but perhaps you can find one. The old style bagman support woks very well with this relatively square bag, affixed to the support there is zero sway and zero thigh contact. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
My mistake, Patrick. The PT (seems to stand for protex) is in the T-Serv line, not the Pasela, but the tread looks identical. I had the 26x1.25 slotted in as a replacement for the XO-1 in the family, once the current set of Avocets finally wear out. I don't have any experience with them yet, but 240g sounds promising. http://www.panaracer.com/urban.php The Kojak sounds like a winner, though, and Schwalbes seem to be worth the price. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Joe: I can't find anything online about the PT model; the only information that I am confident is up to date is about the TG version. Can you point me to a site? I put several thousand miles on the non TG 559X 32 Paselas and they were fine for the price, but I don't recall finding them as nice as the similar Kojak: 1. They seemed much more sensitive to pressure: a much finer line between harsh and saggy. 2. They were indeed flat prone, but that can be cured by Stan's. OTOH, the Kojak is quite flat resistant while rolling at least as nicely as the Pasela. 3. The sidewalls were fragile; so was the tread, come to think of it: I put 1,200 miles on a rear once in 30 feet when my Bagman QR suddenly quick-released at speed, flipping the Nelson back onto the rear tire and locking it. The skid took off all of the tread in a 1.5 long section. OTOH again, they rolled well when inflated right and the price is certainly good (though I just saw them online at $36 and change). On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Have you had a local shop confirm they're discontinued? I just googled pasela 26x1.25 wire and saw lots of stock of the non-TGs, but maybe that's the end of them. If so, the new PT models look promising. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: From what I can google, Pasela no longer makes the 559X1.25 except in a Tourguard model. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick, Have plain Paselas proven too flat prone for you? Based on BQ's testing, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat the humble Pasela in performance even at 2-3x the price. They haven't tested the Kojak, but the very similar Marathon Racer was slightly slower. Where I ride (no goatheads!), the plain Pasela's been just as flat resistant as the Tourguard. I've gotten 1 flat about every 600 miles with 700x32s. There's also the new T-serv PT from Panaracer that saves some weight (kevlar bead) and has a new flat protection layer. Best, joe broach portland, or On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: If you wanted a fattish but also fastish tire, and you couldn't go wider than 32 mm (if you want to use fenders), which would you choose? There isn't a huge amount of comment on the Racers; most of it old and on recumbent forums, which give them good marks. Even less on the Tom Slick. I think the short list is Kojaks or Racers, so if anyone has any parting thoughts before I spring, please speak. Before I got my Parigi Roubaix I though the Kojaks were top o' the line, but they don't feel quite as spritely as the Challenges. OTOH, not many tires are and I must say that of all the 59X ~ 32s I've used, the Ks are so far the best. I've not used the Racers and it has been too long since I used Tom Slicks -- 13-15 years? Interested first in speed with sufficient width to bear up under rear loads (otherwise I'd use the 1 Turbos in my stash), then flat resistance, then longevity, then cost. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for a high capacity canvas banana bag
On 05/18/2014 07:11 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: I have the Baggins bag that is similar to the Frost River Echo Trail. There is absolutely no way you could fit a sun hat, a wool hat, wool socks, a windbreaker, a shade shirt, a bottle of butter and a wool top layer in that bag unless those items were sized for a Barbie doll. That sounds like a job for the Carradice Camper! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Inaugural Ride
All QB's and SO's were 120mm. The QB was designed to take a special quick-release free/free version of the Suzue Promax sealed-bearing track (flip-flop) hub. Flip-flop hubs can be found in both 120mm and 130mm, but 120mm is the standard size for dedicated track and SS road bikes. 130mm flip-flop hubs are useful mainly for modern road bikes that have horizontal dropouts to be run as fixed or SS. 130mm flip-flop hubs tend to just be the same hub shell as the 120mm hubs, but with different axle spacing; no wider flanges or chainline. So, if you're designing a purpose-built road fixed gear or SS, no reason not to go with 120mm. On Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:01:35 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: If it's only 120 (is it? since so many modern flip flop hubs are 130) I'll be happy to send along an old all-steel rear QR for postage. Nothing fancy, certainly not Campy -- no-name French or old Shimano -- but perfectly serviceable. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:59 PM, ted ted@comcast.net javascript:wrote: Actually I think the old is 120, so those antique campi qrs from the late 70s probably Work -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Thanks, Joe. As of this moment, the Kojaks are the standard to beat. There are 559X28 (1 1/8) tires available that might be better running, but that extra 4 mm is worth a bit of flat-resistant drag. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: My mistake, Patrick. The PT (seems to stand for protex) is in the T-Serv line, not the Pasela, but the tread looks identical. I had the 26x1.25 slotted in as a replacement for the XO-1 in the family, once the current set of Avocets finally wear out. I don't have any experience with them yet, but 240g sounds promising. http://www.panaracer.com/urban.php The Kojak sounds like a winner, though, and Schwalbes seem to be worth the price. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Joe: I can't find anything online about the PT model; the only information that I am confident is up to date is about the TG version. Can you point me to a site? I put several thousand miles on the non TG 559X 32 Paselas and they were fine for the price, but I don't recall finding them as nice as the similar Kojak: 1. They seemed much more sensitive to pressure: a much finer line between harsh and saggy. 2. They were indeed flat prone, but that can be cured by Stan's. OTOH, the Kojak is quite flat resistant while rolling at least as nicely as the Pasela. 3. The sidewalls were fragile; so was the tread, come to think of it: I put 1,200 miles on a rear once in 30 feet when my Bagman QR suddenly quick-released at speed, flipping the Nelson back onto the rear tire and locking it. The skid took off all of the tread in a 1.5 long section. OTOH again, they rolled well when inflated right and the price is certainly good (though I just saw them online at $36 and change). On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Have you had a local shop confirm they're discontinued? I just googled pasela 26x1.25 wire and saw lots of stock of the non-TGs, but maybe that's the end of them. If so, the new PT models look promising. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: From what I can google, Pasela no longer makes the 559X1.25 except in a Tourguard model. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick, Have plain Paselas proven too flat prone for you? Based on BQ's testing, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat the humble Pasela in performance even at 2-3x the price. They haven't tested the Kojak, but the very similar Marathon Racer was slightly slower. Where I ride (no goatheads!), the plain Pasela's been just as flat resistant as the Tourguard. I've gotten 1 flat about every 600 miles with 700x32s. There's also the new T-serv PT from Panaracer that saves some weight (kevlar bead) and has a new flat protection layer. Best, joe broach portland, or On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: If you wanted a fattish but also fastish tire, and you couldn't go wider than 32 mm (if you want to use fenders), which would you choose? There isn't a huge amount of comment on the Racers; most of it old and on recumbent forums, which give them good marks. Even less on the Tom Slick. I think the short list is Kojaks or Racers, so if anyone has any parting thoughts before I spring, please speak. Before I got my Parigi Roubaix I though the Kojaks were top o' the line, but they don't feel quite as spritely as the Challenges. OTOH, not many tires are and I must say that of all the 59X ~ 32s I've used, the Ks are so far the best. I've not used the Racers and it has been too long since I used Tom Slicks -- 13-15 years? Interested first in speed with sufficient width to bear up under rear loads (otherwise I'd use the 1 Turbos in my stash), then flat resistance, then longevity, then cost. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for a high capacity canvas banana bag
Carradice Junior, thank you very much. The Camper is far, far, FAR too big. I'd be using the Junior on my Fargo yet did it not scrap the tire when heavily loaded. If OP has a 66 cm QB (did I get that right?) he'll no' have that problem. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 05/18/2014 07:11 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: I have the Baggins bag that is similar to the Frost River Echo Trail. There is absolutely no way you could fit a sun hat, a wool hat, wool socks, a windbreaker, a shade shirt, a bottle of butter and a wool top layer in that bag unless those items were sized for a Barbie doll. That sounds like a job for the Carradice Camper! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Hillborne sighting, Benicia, CA.
Double tubes! I'm always astonished at how nice Rivs look out in the wild. Truly beautiful bicycles. I was the old fool in the hilariously loud (it's stock) Fiat Abarth Cabrio, who chickened out of today's high winds and went for a drive. I hope you got a tailwind home! :) Joe put a muffler on that thing, boy Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Acorn Boxy Rando Bag
I'm offering up an Acorn Boxy Rando Bag. Used but good overall shape. Has one small (1cm) slit in the plastic map cover (see photo closeup) but otherwise no tears or fraying anywhere, just signs of normal use. No decaleur was ever installed on this bag. Shock cording is missing from the inside flaps but I can supply spare (but not matching) shock cord to the buyer if requested. $135 + actual shipping costs, with your choice of shipping method. Contact off-list if interested. Anton https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4XVUgDCJBUM/U3lMNiwFQxI/Bck/hCJUcmLE_bU/s1600/IMG_3791.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-luzia__uBCM/U3lMTsig8uI/Bcs/awWs3Wd6ndo/s1600/IMG_3792.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dDHLzXXbMvg/U3lMYYOa_TI/Bc0/D-c2pTlz71g/s1600/IMG_3793.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XLy-lvMFWow/U3lMbHwFnoI/Bc8/0qnwfSuP3Vw/s1600/IMG_3794.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nPXn70gde68/U3lMe0KbdWI/BdE/RL18l5gg-VA/s1600/IMG_3795.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nlo4Cz6eMQM/U3lMhp2vyjI/BdM/PfBJmGhAfdg/s1600/IMG_3796.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
Another data point - my Surly LHT has 559x50 Kojak tires. They are smooth, but nowhere near as nice as the Compass Barlow Pass tires. In the past week put about 150 miltes total on the Kojak tires and by the end of the week, I was feeling the miles in my legs. In fact, am now considering buying the Compass 26 tires for this bike. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Joe. As of this moment, the Kojaks are the standard to beat. There are 559X28 (1 1/8) tires available that might be better running, but that extra 4 mm is worth a bit of flat-resistant drag. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: My mistake, Patrick. The PT (seems to stand for protex) is in the T-Serv line, not the Pasela, but the tread looks identical. I had the 26x1.25 slotted in as a replacement for the XO-1 in the family, once the current set of Avocets finally wear out. I don't have any experience with them yet, but 240g sounds promising. http://www.panaracer.com/urban.php The Kojak sounds like a winner, though, and Schwalbes seem to be worth the price. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Joe: I can't find anything online about the PT model; the only information that I am confident is up to date is about the TG version. Can you point me to a site? I put several thousand miles on the non TG 559X 32 Paselas and they were fine for the price, but I don't recall finding them as nice as the similar Kojak: 1. They seemed much more sensitive to pressure: a much finer line between harsh and saggy. 2. They were indeed flat prone, but that can be cured by Stan's. OTOH, the Kojak is quite flat resistant while rolling at least as nicely as the Pasela. 3. The sidewalls were fragile; so was the tread, come to think of it: I put 1,200 miles on a rear once in 30 feet when my Bagman QR suddenly quick-released at speed, flipping the Nelson back onto the rear tire and locking it. The skid took off all of the tread in a 1.5 long section. OTOH again, they rolled well when inflated right and the price is certainly good (though I just saw them online at $36 and change). On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Have you had a local shop confirm they're discontinued? I just googled pasela 26x1.25 wire and saw lots of stock of the non-TGs, but maybe that's the end of them. If so, the new PT models look promising. Best, joe broach portland, or On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: From what I can google, Pasela no longer makes the 559X1.25 except in a Tourguard model. On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick, Have plain Paselas proven too flat prone for you? Based on BQ's testing, I think you'd be hard pressed to beat the humble Pasela in performance even at 2-3x the price. They haven't tested the Kojak, but the very similar Marathon Racer was slightly slower. Where I ride (no goatheads!), the plain Pasela's been just as flat resistant as the Tourguard. I've gotten 1 flat about every 600 miles with 700x32s. There's also the new T-serv PT from Panaracer that saves some weight (kevlar bead) and has a new flat protection layer. Best, joe broach portland, or On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: If you wanted a fattish but also fastish tire, and you couldn't go wider than 32 mm (if you want to use fenders), which would you choose? There isn't a huge amount of comment on the Racers; most of it old and on recumbent forums, which give them good marks. Even less on the Tom Slick. I think the short list is Kojaks or Racers, so if anyone has any parting thoughts before I spring, please speak. Before I got my Parigi Roubaix I though the Kojaks were top o' the line, but they don't feel quite as spritely as the Challenges. OTOH, not many tires are and I must say that of all the 59X ~ 32s I've used, the Ks are so far the best. I've not used the Racers and it has been too long since I used Tom Slicks -- 13-15 years? Interested first in speed with sufficient width to bear up under rear loads (otherwise I'd use the 1 Turbos in my stash), then flat resistance, then longevity, then cost. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
[RBW] Re: Bosque Ramble
Wow! I'm glad I don't live in ABQ! Those trails being all sideways would monkey with my vertigo to no end! Out my peripheral so I don't get messed up looking at their sideways ways, it looks like a fantastic ride! With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:12:26 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: It would help to attach the photos. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: To and from church, total 20 miles. I tried to find my way back from north 4th Street via the acequia roads but missed a turn and ended up at a private property dead end and had to backtrack a couple of miles on 4th Street. There *is* a way, though. In paces the big acequia dirt roads dwindle to singletrack on both sides of the ditch. The big roads are getting churned up into fine sand, but the soil is firm on the less used tracks. Rivendell content: the Fargo is a wannabee Hunquapillar. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * Nothing outside you can give you any place, [the Misfit] said. You needn't look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?” ― Flannery O'Connorhttp://www.goodreads.com/author/show/22694.Flannery_O_Connor , *Wise Blood http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1046530* -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for a high capacity canvas banana bag
The Echo Trail is about the same size as the old Bannana bag from different makers. I've seen that bag. Have not seen the Caribou Trail, but it appears to be the same size as the old Baggins Little Joe bag. I have one of those and they might fit everything on that list, but it would be close, and only if the wool top were thin. The Carradice Junior appears to be the same size. I can stuff more in my Duluth Pack badged Little Joe because of the extended straps. And for handlebar bags, the Frost River bag is definitely smaller than the Brand V handlebar bag. I have both. Know they aren't under discussion, but wanted to point that out in case folks are looking at the Frost River site. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Carradice Junior, thank you very much. The Camper is far, far, FAR too big. I'd be using the Junior on my Fargo yet did it not scrap the tire when heavily loaded. If OP has a 66 cm QB (did I get that right?) he'll no' have that problem. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 05/18/2014 07:11 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: I have the Baggins bag that is similar to the Frost River Echo Trail. There is absolutely no way you could fit a sun hat, a wool hat, wool socks, a windbreaker, a shade shirt, a bottle of butter and a wool top layer in that bag unless those items were sized for a Barbie doll. That sounds like a job for the Carradice Camper! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Inaugural Ride
Have I mentioned lately I love this group and you lot are fantastic! Thanks, Patrick. I've written you off group so I can get skewered. Grin. Also, no need for LCG on the 12-14% grade, but I need need to stop and rest a few times. Felt great this afternoon, so headed up Mt. Esther trail. After the roads to get there, the trail is ridiculously steep and is basically all LCG for the first mile (and 1,200 feet climb). I usually take 40-45 minutes to do this with the Hunqapillar, but with the QB it was 30. Yowza! I felt far less need to rest along the way, and was even able to shoulder carry her for the more insane bits (not an option with the Hunqa's diagitube). She handles the trails brilliantly and is a completely different experience to ride them. Quick is apt, so she is well named! Grin. I was able to ride almost as much as I ride on the Hunqapillar, adding just a few hundred yards more LCG over 3.5 hours. I really doubt I need a 22t gear, and that is exciting! The efficiency of the SS drivetrain is truly amazing, along with the lighter bike and less gear on it. After a wondrous jaunt through the wilds and highlands, I get treated to a screaming descent on paved back road, then dirt roads and the MSO handles all of it spectacularly. This truly is a great go-light bike set up for all day longer distance adventures. No doubt I'll ride the QB like crazy and then rediscover the Hunqapillars niche -- especially when I need to carry more than a wee bag of stuff, or bikepacking. The option of two bikes it truly a blessing and opens up lots of possibilities. Pictures prove I had a fantastic time and go to great lengths to color coordinate with the flora on my rides. Grin. https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157644683556936/ With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Chain Catchers
Last year I tackled the unreliable front end shifting on my tandem, which are notorious for front end shifting surprises, by going to pinned rings, and adding a chain catcher. It has been a big success. I chose the Ace chain catcher and am now considering adding a chain catcher to Pat's Betty and my Saluki. The Ace catchers are elegant, but $29 + shipping (no on-line retailers carry the triple version). I know there are some less expensive plastic ones, but wonder what others have found, and where they found them? I wish RBW carried one. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Recommendations for a high capacity canvas banana bag
Thanks, all! Anne, I am far from Barbie-sized. Grin. But thankfully on a go-light set up I plan to be moving, so I can get away with fewer, thiner layers than when I am more rambling. Solution discovered! (to bury the lead!) I modified the Small Saddlesack (well, my wife did) by sewing the front corners back to the sides, thus eliminating thigh slap and bag sway. I also strapped the seat post strap around the seat stays instead, so the whole things sits more solidly. And all my stuff fits, still with room to spare! Yes! Photo: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/14194398706/in/set-72157644683556936 With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTT: Trade my Jack Brown Blues for Your Compass Barlow Passes (with some additional from me as needed)
Barlow Passes found! Though it's a sale rather than trade, so I'll be posting the JB Blues for sale in a different thread. Have I mentioned I LOVE this group! You lot are fantastic! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] For Sale: Jack Brown Blues
1 pair, slight wear on the center tread, plenty of life life. Near new. $70 shipped. Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157644305916249/ With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Recommendations for a high capacity canvas banana bag
On 05/18/2014 08:14 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: Carradice Junior, thank you very much. The Camper is far, far, FAR too big. You could use a sombrero as your sun hat with a Camper. Just sayin'... I'd be using the Junior on my Fargo yet did it not scrap the tire when heavily loaded. If OP has a 66 cm QB (did I get that right?) he'll no' have that problem. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com mailto:palin...@his.com wrote: On 05/18/2014 07:11 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: I have the Baggins bag that is similar to the Frost River Echo Trail. There is absolutely no way you could fit a sun hat, a wool hat, wool socks, a windbreaker, a shade shirt, a bottle of butter and a wool top layer in that bag unless those items were sized for a Barbie doll. That sounds like a job for the Carradice Camper! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
I wish the '03 would fit the Compass tires with fenders, but it won't -- ~32 mm is the maximum with adequate gap. I find that if I run the Kojaks a wee bit higher than I'd like to (~60/65 versus 55/60) they roll well enough. I am presently doubting whether the Primo Racers would add enough to earn the cost and hassle of replacement. Note: all pavement, and generally pretty decent pavement; no dirt. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: Another data point - my Surly LHT has 559x50 Kojak tires. They are smooth, but nowhere near as nice as the Compass Barlow Pass tires. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * “Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place. Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be? Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” ― Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTT: Trade my Jack Brown Blues for Your Compass Barlow Passes (with some additional from me as needed)
I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the BP's as I'm seriously considering picking up a pair. On Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:50:25 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Barlow Passes found! Though it's a sale rather than trade, so I'll be posting the JB Blues for sale in a different thread. Have I mentioned I LOVE this group! You lot are fantastic! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTT: Trade my Jack Brown Blues for Your Compass Barlow Passes (with some additional from me as needed)
Happy to, Chris. My plan is for them to be my dirt road meandoneering tires for when I attempt a SS 200+k (the route I'm eying is 170 miles) almost all dirt roads of various kinds. I'm hoping that is the tire to help that happen. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:14:39 PM UTC-6, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the BP's as I'm seriously considering picking up a pair. On Sunday, May 18, 2014 7:50:25 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Barlow Passes found! Though it's a sale rather than trade, so I'll be posting the JB Blues for sale in a different thread. Have I mentioned I LOVE this group! You lot are fantastic! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTT: Trade my Jack Brown Blues for Your Compass Barlow Passes (with some additional from me as needed)
Meandoneering! Love it. KJ On Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:20:39 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Happy to, Chris. My plan is for them to be my dirt road meandoneering tires for when I attempt a SS 200+k (the route I'm eying is 170 miles) almost all dirt roads of various kinds. I'm hoping that is the tire to help that happen. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Chain Catchers
Never heard of such a thing. I run my Sam 1x8 and occasionally throw my chain off the 40t front ring. I think it is usually going fast downhill, maybe shifting into the smallest rear cog while hitting a bump? I have a 26t ring up front for emergencies (used once in 2k miles) so I have been reluctant to put something up front. Being more careful on fast bumpy descents would help. Any other tips from you wise folks? Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Chain Catchers
I got a catcher installed on the Fargo a couple of years ago after throwing the chain often when downshifting to the middle ring, the last time jamming it between granny and stay and bending the middle ring almost to right angle. It's mostly black plastic with a metal guard to displace the chain and cost me about $10 from a high end shop. I've forgotten the maker I'm afraid. I've not dropped the chain since. Patrick Moore iPhone On May 18, 2014, at 7:52 PM, Edwin W dweenda...@hotmail.com wrote: Never heard of such a thing. I run my Sam 1x8 and occasionally throw my chain off the 40t front ring. I think it is usually going fast downhill, maybe shifting into the smallest rear cog while hitting a bump? I have a 26t ring up front for emergencies (used once in 2k miles) so I have been reluctant to put something up front. Being more careful on fast bumpy descents would help. Any other tips from you wise folks? Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bosque Ramble
Patrick, it looks a great ride. I enjoy seeing photos of spring rides in other parts of the country. Thanks, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto,Shimano,Suntour
Everything is sold except the 8 speed Indexing Ultegra shifters. Thanks all. On Saturday, May 17, 2014 1:36:40 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote: Clearing out more stuff that I don't need or plan on using. 1. Shimano 8 speed Ultegra downtube shifters. NOS in box w/ cable $70 shipped 2. Shimano LX rear hub T660 36h model with steel axles, best touring hub for the $$. New $42 shipped 3..Suntour 20T chainring 56 BCD NOS. very hard to find. $18 shipped 4. Shimano HG70 11-30 8 speed cassette NOS $32 shipped 5. Nitto S83 seatpost 27.2mm used with a a few small marks in top 13cm Bottom section has lots of scratches. $47 shipped 6. Nitto RM013 handlebars 48cm at drops, 44cm at hoods. New. $45 shipped pictures are here https://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/sets/72157642817627645https://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/sets/72157642817627645 Shipping is included for Con US only Contact me off-line if interested. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Chain Catchers
Hi Michael, N-Gear jump stop. Works fantastic and can be found here http://www.jensonusa.com/N-Gear-Jump-Stop-Chain-Guide. Richard On Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:42:12 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: Last year I tackled the unreliable front end shifting on my tandem, which are notorious for front end shifting surprises, by going to pinned rings, and adding a chain catcher. It has been a big success. I chose the Ace chain catcher and am now considering adding a chain catcher to Pat's Betty and my Saluki. The Ace catchers are elegant, but $29 + shipping (no on-line retailers carry the triple version). I know there are some less expensive plastic ones, but wonder what others have found, and where they found them? I wish RBW carried one. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Why Wear a Helmet?
Came across this as I was following links from a post in my Twitter feed. Let the debate begin. FWIW, I wear a helmet when I ride. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/innovations/wp/2014/05/15/why-you-should-always-wear-a-bike-helmet-in-one-chart/ (Source: https://twitter.com/velovoice/status/468149065818320897) Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Why Wear a Helmet?
Definitely a cool graphic but can it REALLY be that simple?!?! I am skeptical (and a devout helmet wearer for the record). Wear a helmet or die and carbon fiber is terrible are two of my favorite topics! ;) Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Squishy Brakes
Maybe I should make a new topic for this since cantilever brake set up is one of those witchcraft kind of topics, but I'm posting it here anyway. I think shortening the straddle cable only increases mechanical advantage for low to medium profile cantilever brakes. The CR720 is a wide profile brake, according to Sheldon's definition (cantilever angle greater than 90 degrees), and Sheldon's article deals primarily with low/narrow profile models. For the CR720, raising the straddle cable hanger moves the yoke angle closer to 90 degrees and lowering it does the opposite. Can anyone show me otherwise, or tell me a reason why that doesn't matter? I've been confused by all the mixed information for a while now. From my own experience, I like how the CR720s feel with a very high straddle cable, and Riv seems to set them up that way as well. Paul in ATL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Squishy Brakes
As long as the end of the catilever is above the pivot lowering the stradle increases the mech advantage. The static force analysis is cleaner if you do it with vertical and horizontal components. The vertical force at the cantilever end is always 1/2 the tension in the brake cable, and that component of the total torque is invariant. The horizontal force at the cantilever end tends towards infinity as the straddle cable approaches horizontal. The lower it goes the higher the force and so that component of the total torque increases as the straddle cable is lowered. QED On Sunday, May 18, 2014 8:46:46 PM UTC-7, Paul Clifton wrote: Maybe I should make a new topic for this since cantilever brake set up is one of those witchcraft kind of topics, but I'm posting it here anyway. I think shortening the straddle cable only increases mechanical advantage for low to medium profile cantilever brakes. The CR720 is a wide profile brake, according to Sheldon's definition (cantilever angle greater than 90 degrees), and Sheldon's article deals primarily with low/narrow profile models. For the CR720, raising the straddle cable hanger moves the yoke angle closer to 90 degrees and lowering it does the opposite. Can anyone show me otherwise, or tell me a reason why that doesn't matter? I've been confused by all the mixed information for a while now. From my own experience, I like how the CR720s feel with a very high straddle cable, and Riv seems to set them up that way as well. Paul in ATL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Why Wear a Helmet?
I don't believe those numbers. When you click on their alleged source, the Institute for Highway Safety, you get nothing. Moreover, I don't think the Institute for Highway Safety knows the helmet status of all (or almost all) of the cyclist fatalities. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Christopher Murray chrispmurra...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely a cool graphic but can it REALLY be that simple?!?! I am skeptical (and a devout helmet wearer for the record). Wear a helmet or die and carbon fiber is terrible are two of my favorite topics! ;) Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Why Wear a Helmet?
Here is what might have been the source: http://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/t/pedestrians-and-bicyclists/fatalityfacts/bicycles And, I guess I now have to believe the numbers in the pie chart, because there they are. Although the assumption that helmet-wearers and non-helmet-wearers are otherwise similar is obviously wrong on its face. A surprising number of cyclist fatalities were drunk. Every year around 30% of cyclist fatalities had a BAC of .08 or more. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I don't believe those numbers. When you click on their alleged source, the Institute for Highway Safety, you get nothing. Moreover, I don't think the Institute for Highway Safety knows the helmet status of all (or almost all) of the cyclist fatalities. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Christopher Murray chrispmurra...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely a cool graphic but can it REALLY be that simple?!?! I am skeptical (and a devout helmet wearer for the record). Wear a helmet or die and carbon fiber is terrible are two of my favorite topics! ;) Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] 6 Weeks of daily commuting on my Sam
A while ago, I asked about commuting with Rivendell's and this is the thread on that. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/commuting/rbw-owners-bunch/jA1MwzjB81Y/2x5-RZVaMZ0J Well after six weeks of using the Sam for my one hour commutes each way all I can say is this bike is a keeper. My previous daily commuter was given to my son. My exact replica, back up commuter is being sold off piece by piece. Part of the experiment was to minimize the amount of bikes I own and so far this has been working out well. Longboards and Marathons were added. A new dynamo wheel was added yesterday and today I replaced the bar ends with Paul Thumbies and Ergon grips, so the bike is now complete. Here is the finished product. https://www.flickr.com/photos/87106495@N07/sets/72157644324781978/ It is time to just enjoy my daily commutes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Why Wear a Helmet?
There are more factors involved that can be squeezed into this sort of presentation, and analysis of the data is all but completely lacking on that page. One rather important item apparently missing is the percentage of cyclists who died from head injuries versus other injuries or health problems, for example- it is just stated that it was a majority. Is that 50.5% or 95%? Helmet use has been estimated to reduce head injury risk by 85 percent is a claim that has been debunked many times. Part of it depends on how one defines a head injury. A scalp laceration or abrasions? A fractured skull? Closed-head brain injury? Namby-pamby definitions and fake statistics like this undermine people's abilities to make good judgments about the relative merits of wearing a helmet in reducing their risk of disability or death. Well-meant, I am sure, but inadequately convincing. I've peronally known three people who died while cycling. One didn't have a helmet (struck by a train in 1973), one did (struck by a truck that was in the wrong lane in 2002) and one who had a heart attack. As a counterpoint there is http://cyclehelmets.org/ although that web site suffers from some of the same flaws as the IIHS and various pro-helmet sites. On May 18, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Here is what might have been the source: http://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/t/pedestrians-and-bicyclists/fatalityfacts/bicycles And, I guess I now have to believe the numbers in the pie chart, because there they are. Although the assumption that helmet-wearers and non-helmet-wearers are otherwise similar is obviously wrong on its face. A surprising number of cyclist fatalities were drunk. Every year around 30% of cyclist fatalities had a BAC of .08 or more. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: I don't believe those numbers. When you click on their alleged source, the Institute for Highway Safety, you get nothing. Moreover, I don't think the Institute for Highway Safety knows the helmet status of all (or almost all) of the cyclist fatalities. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Christopher Murray chrispmurra...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely a cool graphic but can it REALLY be that simple?!?! I am skeptical (and a devout helmet wearer for the record). Wear a helmet or die and carbon fiber is terrible are two of my favorite topics! ;) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
