[RBW] Entmoot plans?

2014-06-22 Thread LeeC
Hi all. I'm looking forward to the big event coming up. I'm wondering if 
anyone is organizing the Entmoot portion of the festivities. If so, any 
ideas for the agenda?

Thanks,
Lee

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[RBW] Re: Indexing Schmindexing!

2014-06-22 Thread Joe Bernard
I have a set of those Simplex shifters, and will gladly sell them along to 
anyone who might be interested (along with the Silver stem mount where they 
currently reside, if you'd like). They're the most beautiful downtubers 
ever, but I think Silvers shift better. 

JB

On Saturday, June 21, 2014 4:40:43 PM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:

 This time it is great. I'm not sure if the indexing is wearing out on the 
 shifter or what. I would tend to suspect my not so great mechanic ability, 
 but the great thing is, 
 it doesn't matter. I loved the friction shifting. I think I may never go 
 back. This is one more thing that Grant is right about. I wonder, could a 
 set of Silver bar ends be 
 in my future?

 Quality NOS sets are harder to find these days, but if you can find a set, 
 I prefer Simplex Retrofriction to Silvers. 


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[RBW] Re: Great Allegheny Passage: A Family Ride Report

2014-06-22 Thread ascpgh
Spectacular. They will fondly recall this trip for years to come in 
conversations with others. A friend who shepherded his son with a handful 
of his willing friends and another parent on that trip for a 13th birthday 
party. His son who has graduated college and works in Florida now, 
mentioned taking that ride again.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Saturday, June 21, 2014 9:44:08 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote:

 (Riv content: no Riv bikes, but much Riv gear and Riv inspired bike 
 set-ups. I really doubt this ever would have happened without the knowledge 
 and encouragement I have received from this group. Thanks!)

 On Father's Day, we loaded the bikes on the car and drove three hours to 
 Cumberland, Maryland to begin our five-day family trip on the Great 
 Allegheny Passage (http://www.atatrail.org).

 Early on Monday morning the good folks at Cumberland Trail Connections (
 http://www.ctcbikes.com) drove us to McKeesport, PA to begin our ride 
 west to east.  There were five of us: my wife, my 11 and 13 year old sons, 
 and a family friend age 12.  I settled on riding the trail west to east so 
 that the climbing would be gradually spread over three days, so the last 
 day would be a fast downhill ride, and so each day we were a bit closer to 
 home.  We also slowly increased the mileage so as not to overwhelm the 
 youth too soon.  The mileage each day worked well for our group and left 
 the boys tired but neither exhausted nor burned out.

 We stayed mostly in BBs with one night in a cabin at a KOA campground. The 
 whole trip was great. The boys asked at the end when they could do another 
 bike trip!  That makes it a success in my book.  We only experienced an 
 hour of rain, and on most days the temperature peaked around 85*F.

 The GAP itself is a well maintained treasure that traverses a beautiful 
 section of the United States.
 Here was our trip itinerary, inspired by a tour offered by Adventure 
 Cycling Association: 
 http://www.adventurecycling.org/guided-tours/family-fun-tours/2014-family-fun-great-allegheny-passage/
 :
 Sunday-Drive to Cumberland, MD - Fairfield Inn and Suites

 Monday-McKeesport, PA to West Newton 19 miles
   Lodging: http://www.brightmorning.net/

 Tuesday-West Newton to Connellsville, 22 miles
Lodging: http://www.campriversedge.com/cabins

 Wednesday -Connellsville to Confluence 31 miles
Lodging: http://www.riverviewkitchenettes.com

 Thursday -Confluence to  Meyersdale 31 miles
 Lodging: Gram Grams Place http://www.gramgramsplace.com

 Friday-Meyersdale, PA to Cumberland, MD 32 miles
 Lodging: Home

 I highly recommend all the places we stayed, except the campground outside 
 of Connellsville.  They have a pool, which I thought the boys would use 
 more than they did.  I might look into a BB in Connellsville if planning 
 this again.  The campground was fine, but it was located 3 miles outside 
 town. Being in town would have worked better for us, and we wouldn't have 
 needed the sleeping bags.  If you wanted to camp each night, the Adventure 
 Cycling itinerary (link above) would work well, as would the KOA campground.

 Finally, I took immense pride in watching my family make the trip on bikes 
 that I had built-up from just frames.  A feat I could not have done without 
 this group. So many, many thanks! This group is a treasure, too.

 Photos from the trip are here:  
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157644880466610/

 Here is a photo of the boys indicating our progress on the elevation map 
 inside the tunnel at the Eastern Continental Divide. The last 20 miles from 
 the divide to Cumberland were all downhill and a fun reward for a few days 
 of gradual climbing.


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_p2Dy2h8VRc/U6YyBAH2AbI/AQY/3LpU91d1REc/s1600/14289825107_daf046b408_o.jpg



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[RBW] Friday Morning Adventure

2014-06-22 Thread Tony DeFilippo
http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/06/friday-morning-adventure.html

My most ambitious pre-work ride to date,~40 miles up to Great Falls MD on 
the CO Towpath for coffee outside and then to work!  The 0400 wake up was 
unpleasant but justified.  And amazingly I found a partner for this 
hairbrained ride in my friend Joe. We met in Georgetown at the trailhead of 
the CO/Capitol Crescent Trail at 0500 and had a thrilling early morning 
ride along the canal. Lots of wildlife including a 3 point buck so close I 
could have tweaked his nose (not recommended) and many, many Great Blue 
Heron out for a morning snack and glide along the canal basin.

Anyone in the Mid Atlantic area who hasn't taken advantage of the CO and 
particularly Great Falls should put this spectacular place on their short 
list.  A mere 13 miles from downtown DC and you get a world class view!

Riv Content;  The green Saluki performed flawlessly, I am loving the noodle 
bars after two weeks of riding with this setup.  My coffee kit was 
contained in my Shopsack medium in Wald 137 basket and my work clothes in 
my Carradice longflap.  This was my best opportunity to date to use the BM 
Cyo Premium headlight in its new mounting location (see picture) and it 
worked out great.  Joe said he thought I was a car when I pulled into 
Georgetown!  The offcenter mounting isn't perfect but I love how protected 
the light now is in comparison to its centerline, frontmost status on the 
bike previously.  The GB Hetres (extra legre) continue to be my favorite 
tires ever, the CO towpath surface is often critisized but I found it to 
be just fine and largely dry on Friday.  Joe's bike is his sweet UBI-built 
steel, fillet brazed machine nicknamed 'Frankie'.  He had it clear 
powdercoated and we put a 10 speed 105 group on it, he's been riding it as 
his daily commuter for about a month or two now.  He is fairly resistant to 
the fat tired, upright riding mantra but this bike is pretty upright and at 
least has 32mm tires and will be getting fenders soon.

All around great ride, amazing view and good company.  Over the last two 
weeks I've put in more miles than in any other two consecutive weeks to 
date, I definitely feel like I've been riding more.  More the weather than 
anything else but I'm feeling stronger and stronger as a rider and looking 
forward to many more adventures this summer!

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nf6pCPx6uYA/U6bEoratCaI/EZE/Ez9Fzv531Uc/s1600/DSC_3866.jpg

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[RBW] Friday Morning Adventure

2014-06-22 Thread Sky Coulter
Nice! Looks like a great way to start the day.

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[RBW] FS: Rivendell Betty Foy Frame, Fork, and Honjo Fenders

2014-06-22 Thread Nils Eng
Interested! How do I contact you?

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[RBW] Friday Morning Adventure

2014-06-22 Thread Pondero
Spectacular, Tony!  Well done.  I'll be following your blog and anticipating 
more excellent adventures.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Friday Morning Adventure

2014-06-22 Thread WETH
Tony, what a great idea and way to begin a work day!  Let me know if you do 
something similar this summer as I would enjoy the ride.
-Erl

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis/Hilsen owners

2014-06-22 Thread RJM
I completely see the logic behind selling the Hunq and picking up a faster 
road bike. I went a similar route with my Hillborne and Roadeo. 

I think you will feel a difference with just the frame change. The Atlantis 
is stiffer than the Hilsen, and also heavier. All in all, the Hilsen should 
feel a bit quicker given you have it fit properly and set up for faster 
road riding. 

I am convinced that one of the things that makes my Roadeo feel faster (and 
it is faster) than my Hillborne is the wheel change I did when I built it 
up. I went for a set of road wheels that are not really Riv approved, they 
weigh 1525 grams for the set and I put 32mm Compass Stampede Pass tires on 
them. I do believe that change to a standard build like what is on my 
Hillborne accounts for much of the speed difference that I'm seeing.  

On Friday, June 20, 2014 12:54:42 PM UTC-5, Bill Fulford wrote:

 I own an Atlantis and a Hunqapillar. I have them set up differently. The 
 Atlantis is stripped of fenders and racks and I'm using it as an 
 all-rounder. The Hunqapillar has racks, 700 by 50 tires. I'm using the 
 Atlantis like , I think a Hilsen would be used. I'm thinking of selling the 
 Hunqapillar and getting a Hilsen. The Atlantis is a great bike, my favorite 
 but seems a bit sluggish on quicker road rides. My goal is to get a quicker 
 ride, not racing. So, in a round about way here is my question, if I set up 
 an Atlantis and Hilsen with similar wheels, tires etc, am I really going to 
 feel a difference in quickness, speed etc. between the Atlantis and Hilsen 
 frames?Any thoughts would be appreciated. Bill

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[RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-06-22 Thread Jim M.
On Saturday, June 21, 2014 9:22:04 PM UTC-7, DS wrote:

 What plans are there to ride out to the site on Saturday? Anyone getting 
 together to head out? 


It sounds to me like you've volunteered to lead a second ride from SF to CC 
on a route that will be a bit mellower than Manny's. I'll leave you to 
announce time and meeting place.

jim m
wc ca

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[RBW] Re: Friday Morning Adventure

2014-06-22 Thread Deacon Patrick
Way to pop out early and enjoy a great ride! I am always amazed by how 
different rivers look out east vs. here in Colorado or the desert South 
West. Not just bigger, but older.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Grand Bois Cypres tires, a review.

2014-06-22 Thread Anne Paulson
I got back yesterday from Sierra to the Sea, a 586 mile supported bike tour
from Lake Tahoe to San Francisco.

I used the Grand Bois Cypres tires. I now want to report that they were
splendid. We encountered some roads with terrible pavement, as I knew we
would since this was my second year on the trip.  The tires are marked for
75-95 psi, so I initially tried 80 psi. After a day, I let out some air;
around 60 psi ended up working well for me.

Others would slow down on the bumpy downhills, but I just zoomed. My buddy
with narrow tires was constantly crowing about how great his tires were.
When I followed him on some bad stretches of pavement on the flats, I grew
tired of his weaving around trying to find a good line, whereas I just rode
straight with no trouble.

No flats, no problems.

I still think that there ought to be a standard way to measure bike tire
width, so we can compare tires from different vendors. But these tires
(which still measure 30mm wide on my bike) performed admirably.

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[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres tires, a review.

2014-06-22 Thread eflayer
I think a lot of bike parts hype is mostly just hype. And I prefer the 
scientific to mere annecdotal evidence. I have no real science on MY Cerfs 
and my Cypre tires. I don't even have a very good imagination. But I swear 
these 2 sets of tires have made their corresponding bikes so much more fun 
to ride. I rode my Cerf shodded Curtlo coupled bike yesterday. 35 miles, 
3500 feet, up down and and all around fast curves, crappy pavement. Love 
the tires a lot. Cerfs at approx 60 psi, me at 195 lbs.
 

On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:21:47 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 I got back yesterday from Sierra to the Sea, a 586 mile supported bike 
 tour from Lake Tahoe to San Francisco.

 I used the Grand Bois Cypres tires. I now want to report that they were 
 splendid. We encountered some roads with terrible pavement, as I knew we 
 would since this was my second year on the trip.  The tires are marked for 
 75-95 psi, so I initially tried 80 psi. After a day, I let out some air; 
 around 60 psi ended up working well for me. 

 Others would slow down on the bumpy downhills, but I just zoomed. My buddy 
 with narrow tires was constantly crowing about how great his tires were. 
 When I followed him on some bad stretches of pavement on the flats, I grew 
 tired of his weaving around trying to find a good line, whereas I just rode 
 straight with no trouble. 
  
 No flats, no problems.

 I still think that there ought to be a standard way to measure bike tire 
 width, so we can compare tires from different vendors. But these tires 
 (which still measure 30mm wide on my bike) performed admirably. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-06-22 Thread Anne Paulson
The Larkspur Ferry leaves from the Ferry Building at 12:40, arrives at
Larkspur at 1:30. From there, it's a short ride to China Camp. The direct,
flat route from the Ferry Building to China Camp is... not particularly
wonderful.


On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 9:22 PM, DS davecst...@gmail.com wrote:

 What plans are there to ride out to the site on Saturday? Anyone getting
 together to head out? I know Manny posted a route that I seriously
 considered, and possibly still am, but I may have to wimp out. Thinking of
 doing something that also leaves from the Ferry Building but shorter and
 flatter, around 30 miles with about 1k in elevation, with lunch buried in
 there somewhere. I'm not used to touring and this would definitely leave me
 some steam to ride some trails in china camp later that day and the next.

 Most direct route from google maps: https://goo.gl/maps/uYvWq

 More fun but still flat alternative: https://goo.gl/maps/jvYKy (or skip
 Fairfax and do a Tiburon Loop)

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[RBW] Re: Friday Morning Adventure

2014-06-22 Thread Dave Johnston


Looks like such a nice ride. I can never get myself motivated to get up 
that early for a ride. Wish I could, its such a nice time to ride, and so 
much cooler this time of year. 
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R-PwunK9y_o/U6cWKU2vDEI/AEU/cSkxKGHeW0c/s1600/Col_bch.JPG

 
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R-PwunK9y_o/U6cWKU2vDEI/AEU/cSkxKGHeW0c/s1600/Col_bch.JPG
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R-PwunK9y_o/U6cWKU2vDEI/AEU/cSkxKGHeW0c/s1600/Col_bch.JPGPatrick,
 
that's the Potomac River north of DC. Fifty miles south and the Potomac 
looks like this:


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R-PwunK9y_o/U6cWKU2vDEI/AEU/cSkxKGHeW0c/s1600/Col_bch.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R-PwunK9y_o/U6cWKU2vDEI/AEU/cSkxKGHeW0c/s1600/Col_bch.JPG



On Sunday, June 22, 2014 1:08:14 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Way to pop out early and enjoy a great ride! I am always amazed by how 
 different rivers look out east vs. here in Colorado or the desert South 
 West. Not just bigger, but older.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


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[RBW] PSA: Big X0-3 on the bay

2014-06-22 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
No affiliation. Looks like a nice bike and reasonable funds.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRIDGESTONE-XO-VINTAGE-MOUSTACHE-LUGGED-JAPANESE-MADE-/291174792277?pt=US_Bicycles_Frameshash=item43cb5ebc55

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-06-22 Thread dougP
Jim:

What is the car parking situation at China Camp?  I'm from out of the area 
 not familiar with the facility.  

dougP

On Monday, June 2, 2014 8:19:10 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 As mentioned above, I've reserved a 40-person group site at China Camp for 
 2 nights, July 12  13th. And because it's RBW's backyard, I've reserved a 
 30-person group site on Mt Diablo for Monday, July 14th. I assume there 
 will be some drop off of attendees, or even some informal camping in the 
 backcountry for Monday. 

 Master wheelbuilder Rich Lesnik has confirmed his attendance, as has RBW 
 all around nice guy Vince Nivolo. More announcements of RBW folk will be 
 forthcoming.

 For planning purposes, now would be a good time to let me know if you're 
 really going to attend. The poll didn't exceed 40, but if we have many more 
 than that, we should get another campsite or two.

 I have some volunteers already, but if you want to volunteer for something 
 (leading a ride, cooking, shuttling, moonshine distilling), let me know 
 that too.

 cheers
 jim 



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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-06-22 Thread DS
 

I think it can be pretty scenic albeit flat,30-35 miles from the ferry 
building: take embarcadero to the golden gate bridge, across the golden 
gate, through sausalito and a detour to san anselmo or fairfax for lunch 
(or tiburon and do the paradise loop), and off to china camp. I can lead a 
ride if anyone is interested in this. time is flexible so let me know if 
anyone wants to join.

On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:36:38 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 The Larkspur Ferry leaves from the Ferry Building at 12:40, arrives at 
 Larkspur at 1:30. From there, it's a short ride to China Camp. The direct, 
 flat route from the Ferry Building to China Camp is... not particularly 
 wonderful. 


 On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 9:22 PM, DS davec...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 What plans are there to ride out to the site on Saturday? Anyone getting 
 together to head out? I know Manny posted a route that I seriously 
 considered, and possibly still am, but I may have to wimp out. Thinking of 
 doing something that also leaves from the Ferry Building but shorter and 
 flatter, around 30 miles with about 1k in elevation, with lunch buried in 
 there somewhere. I'm not used to touring and this would definitely leave me 
 some steam to ride some trails in china camp later that day and the next.

 Most direct route from google maps: https://goo.gl/maps/uYvWq

 More fun but still flat alternative: https://goo.gl/maps/jvYKy (or skip 
 Fairfax and do a Tiburon Loop)
  
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Re: [RBW] Indexing Schmindexing!

2014-06-22 Thread Patrick Shea
Hey Joe:
I'll take the shifters if you have em still. I can even pick them up.

Cheers,
Patrick shea

On Sunday, June 22, 2014, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a set of those Simplex shifters, and will gladly sell them along to
 anyone who might be interested (along with the Silver stem mount where they
 currently reside, if you'd like). They're the most beautiful downtubers
 ever, but I think Silvers shift better.

 JB

 On Saturday, June 21, 2014 4:40:43 PM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:

 This time it is great. I'm not sure if the indexing is wearing out on
 the shifter or what. I would tend to suspect my not so great mechanic
 ability, but the great thing is,
 it doesn't matter. I loved the friction shifting. I think I may never go
 back. This is one more thing that Grant is right about. I wonder, could a
 set of Silver bar ends be
 in my future?

 Quality NOS sets are harder to find these days, but if you can find a
 set, I prefer Simplex Retrofriction to Silvers.

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[RBW] Entmoot plans?

2014-06-22 Thread Philip Williamson
My only Entmoot plan was show up with Quickbeam, hang out near other 
Quickbeams.
I would love to participate in anything further. 

I plan to just bring the QB and ride with everyone else. Maybe with a second 
ring. Maybe a second wheelset with a generator and freewheeled S3X?

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-06-22 Thread Anne Paulson
The route from the Ferry Building to China Camp is urban and then suburban.
It's utilitarian. Traffic, stoplights, stop signs-- everything I try to get
away from when I ride for pleasure rather than riding to the dentist or
REI. Most of the route is along the bay, which is scenic when you stop and
look, but the riding itself, eh.


On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:45 AM, DS davecst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think it can be pretty scenic albeit flat,30-35 miles from the ferry
 building: take embarcadero to the golden gate bridge, across the golden
 gate, through sausalito and a detour to san anselmo or fairfax for lunch
 (or tiburon and do the paradise loop), and off to china camp. I can lead a
 ride if anyone is interested in this. time is flexible so let me know if
 anyone wants to join.

 On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:36:38 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 The Larkspur Ferry leaves from the Ferry Building at 12:40, arrives at
 Larkspur at 1:30. From there, it's a short ride to China Camp. The direct,
 flat route from the Ferry Building to China Camp is... not particularly
 wonderful.


 On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 9:22 PM, DS davec...@gmail.com wrote:

 What plans are there to ride out to the site on Saturday? Anyone getting
 together to head out? I know Manny posted a route that I seriously
 considered, and possibly still am, but I may have to wimp out. Thinking of
 doing something that also leaves from the Ferry Building but shorter and
 flatter, around 30 miles with about 1k in elevation, with lunch buried in
 there somewhere. I'm not used to touring and this would definitely leave me
 some steam to ride some trails in china camp later that day and the next.

 Most direct route from google maps: https://goo.gl/maps/uYvWq

 More fun but still flat alternative: https://goo.gl/maps/jvYKy (or skip
 Fairfax and do a Tiburon Loop)

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[RBW] FS Bagman 2 QR Support Sport

2014-06-22 Thread hsmitham
Hey Riv Folk,

I purchased the wrong support for my Camper Long Flap so I had to buy the 
correct one. So I need to unload this one. It is meant to support these 
bags:

For use with Barley, Junior, Pendle, Lowsaddle Longflap and Super C Audax 
saddlebags.
Maximum load - 10kg or other similar bags from other manufactures. 

How about $65 plus what ever shipping costs. Please contact off list. Note: 
I'm leaving for the Great North Woods on the 24th for three 
weeks. Theoretically if one was in a hurry I could ship on Monday with 
Paypal confirmation or ship from my temporary home for the next few weeks. 
Another option: I'll be at the Riv West Jamboree and a physical hand off 
could occur. One other thing I did cut the support stays so if your riding 
a 67cm they probably won't reach.

https://www.benscycle.com/p-17-carradice-bagman-2-qr-support-sport.aspx

http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php?page_id=categorycategory_id=51

Cheers,

~Hugh

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-CISF0999bYo/U6czmdtnWRI/A-4/JngY4OewdYA/s1600/Bagman+I.jpg


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[RBW] Re: Entmoot plans?

2014-06-22 Thread dougP
My only Entmoot plan was show up with Quickbeam, hang out near other 
Quickbeams.

Philip:

On yesterday's ride we had 2 Quickbeams, 2 Homers, 2 Atlantii  a couple of 
interlopers (non-Riv steel bikes).  They all played well together.  I 
suspect your Quickbeam will be happy in the no doubt eclectic mix.  :-).

dougP


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 My only Entmoot plan was show up with Quickbeam, hang out near other 
 Quickbeams.
 I would love to participate in anything further. 

 I plan to just bring the QB and ride with everyone else. Maybe with a 
 second ring. Maybe a second wheelset with a generator and freewheeled S3X?

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[RBW] Re: Entmoot plans?

2014-06-22 Thread Deacon Patrick
My plan is to join in solo from afar, hopefully with me doing well enough 
to do a Hunqapillar bikepacking trip, or at least a good long ride on the 
QB.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-06-22 Thread DS
Anne - I think the route along the water is very scenic (especially for 
someone who spent the first 33 years of his life landlocked). SF to 
tiburon/paradise loop is the first ride I did when I moved to california a 
few years ago and still one of my favorites for a nice casual ride 
especially with visitors, but you are right in that it can be a pretty 
crappy ride with all the foot/bike/tourist traffic along the embaradero, gg 
bridge, and sausalito portions, especially during the summer (I guess I've 
lived here long enough to turn a little sour on that ride too). I don't 
know what it is like after the mill valley area, so I'm assuming that is 
the suburban part you are referring to, but no matter what you will have to 
bike through that to get to China Camp unless I am missing something. 
Either way, I want to 1. get a good ride in and 2. get from san francisco 
to china camp. What would you suggest as an alternative? Or is the ferry to 
larkspur what you were suggesting?

On Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:18:03 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 The route from the Ferry Building to China Camp is urban and then 
 suburban. It's utilitarian. Traffic, stoplights, stop signs-- everything I 
 try to get away from when I ride for pleasure rather than riding to the 
 dentist or REI. Most of the route is along the bay, which is scenic when 
 you stop and look, but the riding itself, eh. 


 On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:45 AM, DS davec...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

  I think it can be pretty scenic albeit flat,30-35 miles from the ferry 
 building: take embarcadero to the golden gate bridge, across the golden 
 gate, through sausalito and a detour to san anselmo or fairfax for lunch 
 (or tiburon and do the paradise loop), and off to china camp. I can lead a 
 ride if anyone is interested in this. time is flexible so let me know if 
 anyone wants to join.

 On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:36:38 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 The Larkspur Ferry leaves from the Ferry Building at 12:40, arrives at 
 Larkspur at 1:30. From there, it's a short ride to China Camp. The direct, 
 flat route from the Ferry Building to China Camp is... not particularly 
 wonderful. 


 On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 9:22 PM, DS davec...@gmail.com wrote:

  What plans are there to ride out to the site on Saturday? Anyone 
 getting together to head out? I know Manny posted a route that I seriously 
 considered, and possibly still am, but I may have to wimp out. Thinking of 
 doing something that also leaves from the Ferry Building but shorter and 
 flatter, around 30 miles with about 1k in elevation, with lunch buried in 
 there somewhere. I'm not used to touring and this would definitely leave 
 me 
 some steam to ride some trails in china camp later that day and the next.

 Most direct route from google maps: https://goo.gl/maps/uYvWq

 More fun but still flat alternative: https://goo.gl/maps/jvYKy (or 
 skip Fairfax and do a Tiburon Loop)
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-06-22 Thread Anne Paulson
I'm going to take the ferry, but if you like the direct bike route, you
should do it.  I rode from Point Reyes Station to SF yesterday, seeing
dozens of riders along the bike path north of Sausalito.  I continue not to
like the part after the downhill from Mt. Tam, but that's just my opinion.
( I love Bofax and Ridgecrest). Chacun a son gout.


On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 1:28 PM, DS davecst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anne - I think the route along the water is very scenic (especially for
 someone who spent the first 33 years of his life landlocked). SF to
 tiburon/paradise loop is the first ride I did when I moved to california a
 few years ago and still one of my favorites for a nice casual ride
 especially with visitors, but you are right in that it can be a pretty
 crappy ride with all the foot/bike/tourist traffic along the embaradero, gg
 bridge, and sausalito portions, especially during the summer (I guess I've
 lived here long enough to turn a little sour on that ride too). I don't
 know what it is like after the mill valley area, so I'm assuming that is
 the suburban part you are referring to, but no matter what you will have to
 bike through that to get to China Camp unless I am missing something.
 Either way, I want to 1. get a good ride in and 2. get from san francisco
 to china camp. What would you suggest as an alternative? Or is the ferry to
 larkspur what you were suggesting?


 On Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:18:03 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 The route from the Ferry Building to China Camp is urban and then
 suburban. It's utilitarian. Traffic, stoplights, stop signs-- everything I
 try to get away from when I ride for pleasure rather than riding to the
 dentist or REI. Most of the route is along the bay, which is scenic when
 you stop and look, but the riding itself, eh.


 On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:45 AM, DS davec...@gmail.com wrote:

  I think it can be pretty scenic albeit flat,30-35 miles from the ferry
 building: take embarcadero to the golden gate bridge, across the golden
 gate, through sausalito and a detour to san anselmo or fairfax for lunch
 (or tiburon and do the paradise loop), and off to china camp. I can lead a
 ride if anyone is interested in this. time is flexible so let me know if
 anyone wants to join.

 On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:36:38 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 The Larkspur Ferry leaves from the Ferry Building at 12:40, arrives at
 Larkspur at 1:30. From there, it's a short ride to China Camp. The direct,
 flat route from the Ferry Building to China Camp is... not particularly
 wonderful.


 On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 9:22 PM, DS davec...@gmail.com wrote:

  What plans are there to ride out to the site on Saturday? Anyone
 getting together to head out? I know Manny posted a route that I seriously
 considered, and possibly still am, but I may have to wimp out. Thinking of
 doing something that also leaves from the Ferry Building but shorter and
 flatter, around 30 miles with about 1k in elevation, with lunch buried in
 there somewhere. I'm not used to touring and this would definitely leave 
 me
 some steam to ride some trails in china camp later that day and the next.

 Most direct route from google maps: https://goo.gl/maps/uYvWq

 More fun but still flat alternative: https://goo.gl/maps/jvYKy (or
 skip Fairfax and do a Tiburon Loop)

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-06-22 Thread Dan McNamara
I live is central San Rafael and people are welcome to park by my place and 
store stuff if needed. It is about a 6 mile ride out to China Camp. The route 
out from central San Rafael to China Camp is just being repaved and hopefully 
will be done by 7/12.

Thinking I will take the Friday off and get a ride in. 

Dan



 On Jun 22, 2014, at 11:41 AM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
 
 Jim:
 
 What is the car parking situation at China Camp?  I'm from out of the area  
 not familiar with the facility.  
 
 dougP
 
 On Monday, June 2, 2014 8:19:10 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:
 As mentioned above, I've reserved a 40-person group site at China Camp for 2 
 nights, July 12  13th. And because it's RBW's backyard, I've reserved a 
 30-person group site on Mt Diablo for Monday, July 14th. I assume there will 
 be some drop off of attendees, or even some informal camping in the 
 backcountry for Monday. 
 
 Master wheelbuilder Rich Lesnik has confirmed his attendance, as has RBW all 
 around nice guy Vince Nivolo. More announcements of RBW folk will be 
 forthcoming.
 
 For planning purposes, now would be a good time to let me know if you're 
 really going to attend. The poll didn't exceed 40, but if we have many more 
 than that, we should get another campsite or two.
 
 I have some volunteers already, but if you want to volunteer for something 
 (leading a ride, cooking, shuttling, moonshine distilling), let me know that 
 too.
 
 cheers
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Betty Foy Frame, Fork, and Honjo Fenders

2014-06-22 Thread Jeremy
I assume you're in the Bay Area, in which case I can pick up today.

Let me know, and I'll be over there with cash.  Emailed you as well, before 
I saw pix.


On Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:17:09 AM UTC-7, J. Arita wrote:

 *For sale:  $750 - OBO...Serious inquiries only please - located in 
 California - only used for short commutes - Like New!!*

 *Beautiful Rivendell Betty Foy Frameset (Large Size) with Fork and 
 Headset (Threaded) 

 *Front and Rear Genuine Honjo Fluted Fenders with Stainless Steel Hardware 
 (Installed by Box Dog Bikes in San Francisco) 

 *Nitto Threaded Stem (10 cm)

 *Nitto Albatross Handlebars (Heat-treated) with Cork Grips

 *Shimano Brake Levers
 *Front and Rear Tektro R556 Wide-Reach Brakes 

 *Pletscher Kickstand with Lacquered Twine 


 -Optimized for 650b Wheels
 -Removed wheels (650b) and drivetrain and installed on new Rando-specific, 
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 - More pictures available


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[RBW] Re: Pics of your Riv with a wild animal...

2014-06-22 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
Took a spin out to and around one of our local reservoirs and came up on 
this grazer. I was merely a slight lunch interruption. I had to say hello 
just to get a head shot.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/14482884774/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/14297682427/in/photostream/

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[RBW] Re: Indexing Schmindexing!

2014-06-22 Thread Frank Brose
I prefer friction. Maybe because it's what I cut my teeth on but to me it's 
simple, feels good and the end results are the same. Joes spot on on this, 
the Riv shifters are smoth. Ratchet or not, I'll take friction. But 
that's just me. 

On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:58:51 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:

 I've been fighting with the shifting on my Hilsen for months now. I have a 
 3x9 Ultegra drive train with Dura Ace bar end shifters. I'm admittedly not 
 the best mechanic in the world but I built up my girlfriend's Sam and it 
 shifted just fine, even after switching out Mustache bars w/bar ends to 
 Albatross w/thumbies. I built my Hunqapillar up with less than stellar 
 shifting. So last spring I put on a new chain, cassette, chain rings, and 
 cables. It's never really been great since. It slipped and skipped, 
 especially in the lower gears (which, of course, made it really 
 inconvenient when climbing steep stuff.) I changed cables again recently 
 with the same middling results. It wasn't unrideable but it was pretty 
 annoying. I have my first 400k coming up next Saturday, so last night I 
 started from scratch. I loosened the rear derailer cable (the front has 
 always been fine) and used Sheldon Brown's method of setting up on the 
 third smallest cog and getting the cable snug, with both barrel adjusters 
 one full turn back from all the way tightened. I went on a 75 mile, hilly 
 route today with similar results. It was a wee bit better but it still 
 jumped around, mostly in the lowest gears on both the middle and small 
 chainrings. I tried going both ways with the barrel adjusters to no avail. 
 I would shift a notch but still have to try and trim a half notch or so to 
 get it right. So finally I stopped and took the shifter out of index mode 
 and into friction mode. Viola! It shifted like butter! What a wonderful 
 relief. I had tried index mode once before but only briefly. This time it 
 is great. I'm not sure if the indexing is wearing out on the shifter or 
 what. I would tend to suspect my not so great mechanic ability, but the 
 great thing is, it doesn't matter. I loved the friction shifting. I think I 
 may never go back. This is one more thing that Grant is right about. I 
 wonder, could a set of Silver bar ends be in my future? 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Indexing Schmindexing!

2014-06-22 Thread Patrick Moore
FWIW, after using Simplex Retrofrictions on the new 9 speed Dura Ace 74XX
drivetrain on the Ram for a couple of months, and after having used Silvers
(bar end) for several years on the Fargo, both 7 and, for 18 months or so,
9, I have to agree that I find the Silvers more precise and easier to use
with 9 speeds.


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 I prefer friction. Maybe because it's what I cut my teeth on but to me
 it's simple, feels good and the end results are the same. Joes spot on on
 this, the Riv shifters are smoth. Ratchet or not, I'll take friction.
 But that's just me.


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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-06-22 Thread Jim M.
Great! 3 potential routes from SF to CC. Manny (maybe a rout leader), Dave, 
and Anne leading the ferry option.

As to parking, I will confirm details but I've been told there is ample 
parking available. At some point I will need confirmation of drivers.

My daughter graduated high school and my son graduated college over the 
last 2 weeks, so I've been busy with non-jamboree things. I have a bit more 
free time now and will be reaching out to volunteers soon.

happy trails
jim m
wc ca

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[RBW] Re: Entmoot plans?

2014-06-22 Thread Jim M.
I added Entmoot to the title mostly for fun, but also because I expected at 
least several QB's. If someone wants to organize something more specific, 
please do so. Just remember we have only 3 days, so that might not be 
enough time for a true Ent'ish endeavor.

jim m.

On Saturday, June 21, 2014 11:55:37 PM UTC-7, LeeC wrote:

 Hi all. I'm looking forward to the big event coming up. I'm wondering if 
 anyone is organizing the Entmoot portion of the festivities. If so, any 
 ideas for the agenda?

 Thanks,
 Lee


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[RBW] WTB: SlickerSack for platrack

2014-06-22 Thread Jared Volpe
Still looking?

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[RBW] WTB Slickersack

2014-06-22 Thread Jared Volpe
Still looking?

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[RBW] WTB: Slicker Sack for plat-rack

2014-06-22 Thread Jared Volpe
Still looking?

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[RBW] Re: The Perfect Bag

2014-06-22 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Thanks, I have a sheet of coroplast... Will give it a try.  

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[RBW] Re: WTB Slickersack

2014-06-22 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch


 Jason...if you do find a replacement and want to unload the medium shop 
 sack lemme know. I've just started using a wald basket and could use some 
 containment! 


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[RBW] FS: Sackville Slickersack Green/Olive

2014-06-22 Thread Jared Volpe
Very good used condition with some minor scuffs on the bottom and back leather 
panel where it makes contact with the rack. Barely used. One of the nylon 
D-ring fasteners for the shoulder strap failed. Happy to post a picture. If you 
are handy with a needle and thread, this is easily fixable. Asking 130. I'd 
like to sell it locally (Berkeley, CA) but happy to ship it. DM me.

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[RBW] Re: WTB Slickersack

2014-06-22 Thread jandrews_nyc
No. I sold the platrack on this list about a year ago.
However, I did just receive my new Clem rack and installed it today ...so far 
so good . 
It' doesn't seen to weigh the rear down much, and I haven't ridden with 
panniers in a long time and that's feeling good for the summer. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Indexing Schmindexing!

2014-06-22 Thread Matthew J
 I have to agree that I find the Silvers more precise and easier to use 
with 9 speeds.

That may explain our different experiences.  The largest rear cluster I've 
ever had is 7.  Have never had a triple crank.

 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Indexing Schmindexing!

2014-06-22 Thread Joe Bernard
My Simplex shifters are sold. If anyone wants the Silver stem mount, please 
contact me privately. Otherwise, back to shifter talk!

JB

On Sunday, June 22, 2014 4:19:03 PM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:

  I have to agree that I find the Silvers more precise and easier to use 
 with 9 speeds.

 That may explain our different experiences.  The largest rear cluster I've 
 ever had is 7.  Have never had a triple crank.

  

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[RBW] Re: WTB Slickersack

2014-06-22 Thread Joe Bernard
How did you guys pick up a thread from 2012??

JB

On Sunday, June 22, 2014 4:14:08 PM UTC-7, jandrews_nyc wrote:

 No. I sold the platrack on this list about a year ago.
 However, I did just receive my new Clem rack and installed it today ...so 
 far so good . 
 It' doesn't seen to weigh the rear down much, and I haven't ridden with 
 panniers in a long time and that's feeling good for the summer. 

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[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres tires, a review.

2014-06-22 Thread Don Compton
Just curious, what size are your Cerfs? I have 700x28s on my Riv Roadeo 
and am very happy with them. But, I have been running 75lbs front and 85lbs 
rear. I am lighter and wonder if I could ride with a little less pressure.

On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:30:19 AM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:

 I think a lot of bike parts hype is mostly just hype. And I prefer the 
 scientific to mere annecdotal evidence. I have no real science on MY Cerfs 
 and my Cypre tires. I don't even have a very good imagination. But I swear 
 these 2 sets of tires have made their corresponding bikes so much more fun 
 to ride. I rode my Cerf shodded Curtlo coupled bike yesterday. 35 miles, 
 3500 feet, up down and and all around fast curves, crappy pavement. Love 
 the tires a lot. Cerfs at approx 60 psi, me at 195 lbs.
  

 On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:21:47 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 I got back yesterday from Sierra to the Sea, a 586 mile supported bike 
 tour from Lake Tahoe to San Francisco.

 I used the Grand Bois Cypres tires. I now want to report that they were 
 splendid. We encountered some roads with terrible pavement, as I knew we 
 would since this was my second year on the trip.  The tires are marked for 
 75-95 psi, so I initially tried 80 psi. After a day, I let out some air; 
 around 60 psi ended up working well for me. 

 Others would slow down on the bumpy downhills, but I just zoomed. My 
 buddy with narrow tires was constantly crowing about how great his tires 
 were. When I followed him on some bad stretches of pavement on the flats, I 
 grew tired of his weaving around trying to find a good line, whereas I just 
 rode straight with no trouble. 
  
 No flats, no problems.

 I still think that there ought to be a standard way to measure bike tire 
 width, so we can compare tires from different vendors. But these tires 
 (which still measure 30mm wide on my bike) performed admirably. 

 -- 
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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-06-22 Thread dougP
Jim:

Thanks.  I'll be following developments.  After my last post, I went onto 
the website.  The map shows several parking lots and advises that for the 
tent camping only area you may have to transport your gear up to 300 years 
from your car.  I figured just clip on my bags  pedal on in after ditching 
the car.  Also, there looks to be the Shoreline Trail paralleling the 
main road thru the park.  So the adventure can start immediately.  

The website says check-in after 2 PM.  IME people leaving a campsite tend 
to go early so perhaps we can access the campsites mid-day-ish.  Do you 
have specific sites reserved?  

dougP

On Sunday, June 22, 2014 3:30:10 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 Great! 3 potential routes from SF to CC. Manny (maybe a rout leader), 
 Dave, and Anne leading the ferry option.

 As to parking, I will confirm details but I've been told there is ample 
 parking available. At some point I will need confirmation of drivers.

 My daughter graduated high school and my son graduated college over the 
 last 2 weeks, so I've been busy with non-jamboree things. I have a bit more 
 free time now and will be reaching out to volunteers soon.

 happy trails
 jim m
 wc ca


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[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres tires, a review.

2014-06-22 Thread eflayer
Don,
 
My Cerfs are 28 mm. I run 85 psi in Michelin Lithion 25 mm. Reduce the 
pressure, enjoy the ride.
On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:21:47 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 I got back yesterday from Sierra to the Sea, a 586 mile supported bike 
 tour from Lake Tahoe to San Francisco.

 I used the Grand Bois Cypres tires. I now want to report that they were 
 splendid. We encountered some roads with terrible pavement, as I knew we 
 would since this was my second year on the trip.  The tires are marked for 
 75-95 psi, so I initially tried 80 psi. After a day, I let out some air; 
 around 60 psi ended up working well for me. 

 Others would slow down on the bumpy downhills, but I just zoomed. My buddy 
 with narrow tires was constantly crowing about how great his tires were. 
 When I followed him on some bad stretches of pavement on the flats, I grew 
 tired of his weaving around trying to find a good line, whereas I just rode 
 straight with no trouble. 
  
 No flats, no problems.

 I still think that there ought to be a standard way to measure bike tire 
 width, so we can compare tires from different vendors. But these tires 
 (which still measure 30mm wide on my bike) performed admirably. 

 -- 
 -- Anne Paulson

 It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 


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[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres tires, a review.

2014-06-22 Thread Don Compton
Thanks for your reply. I am going give it a try.
My go fast bikes are my Independent Fabrication bikes and the Grand Bois 
won't fit. I ride 25's on them. Its fun to have bikes with different 
handling and ride characteristics. Enjoy your riding.

On Sunday, June 22, 2014 7:01:19 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:

 Don,
  
 My Cerfs are 28 mm. I run 85 psi in Michelin Lithion 25 mm. Reduce the 
 pressure, enjoy the ride.
 On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:21:47 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

 I got back yesterday from Sierra to the Sea, a 586 mile supported bike 
 tour from Lake Tahoe to San Francisco.

 I used the Grand Bois Cypres tires. I now want to report that they were 
 splendid. We encountered some roads with terrible pavement, as I knew we 
 would since this was my second year on the trip.  The tires are marked for 
 75-95 psi, so I initially tried 80 psi. After a day, I let out some air; 
 around 60 psi ended up working well for me. 

 Others would slow down on the bumpy downhills, but I just zoomed. My 
 buddy with narrow tires was constantly crowing about how great his tires 
 were. When I followed him on some bad stretches of pavement on the flats, I 
 grew tired of his weaving around trying to find a good line, whereas I just 
 rode straight with no trouble. 
  
 No flats, no problems.

 I still think that there ought to be a standard way to measure bike tire 
 width, so we can compare tires from different vendors. But these tires 
 (which still measure 30mm wide on my bike) performed admirably. 

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 It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 



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Re: [RBW] RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-06-22 Thread Aaron Young
What does all full mean exactly?  Is there still room for one more fellar
from The Dalles, OR? Happy to say I got the all clear for Friday and
Saturday night.  Returning north to The Dalles on Sunday though.

-Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

On Friday, June 13, 2014, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 11th is all full...

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hughsmit...@gmail.com'); wrote:

 I'm hitching a ride from PDX on the 11th and I presume we'd make camp @
 CC on the 11th? My ride may have other plans or choose to wing it .Maybe
 make a reservation if it's not to late.

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 4:53 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cyclotour...@gmail.com'); wrote:

 Is anyone getting a spot(s) on Friday the 11th? And if so, would you
 have room for two more + a car??? Curtis and I are trying to figure out a
 way to drive up Friday a.m. He would be staying through, but I'd be doing a
 quick turn around and leaving Sat. noonish (every party has a pooper)...

 Any other suggestions for two vagabonditos for the Friday night?

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6:14 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cyclotour...@gmail.com'); wrote:

 Philip, wow!



 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Philip Williamson 
 philip.william...@gmail.com
 javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','philip.william...@gmail.com'); wrote:

 Tee shirt preorder: http://etsy.me/1xM6K5o
 *If you're coming to the Jamboree, use coupon PICKUP* to remove the
 shipping charge.

 PM me if anything goes wrong with your order - it's been a year since
 I've used Etsy.

 I'm going to print these on unbleached white shirts in soft-hand (not
 plastisol) inks.
 Choose your size, S thru XXL, and your bike color: Orange, Blue, or
 Green.

 The shirts will be delivered at the Jamboree, or mailed out the week
 after, for non-attendees.

 (First time ever uploading photos to the Group)


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UuskA4e6CY4/U5omJZnDONI/CzQ/PiVUR0RcVlc/s1600/bike-detail.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bEaxUtQCEMo/U5omXzjpx9I/Czo/shIu1rN8QEU/s1600/riv-orange.jpg


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-aaPweNg3NJo/U5omb6JuI6I/Czw/2ieRBixIR_c/s1600/riv-pencil-blue.jpg

 Thanks!
 Philip
 www.biketinker.com


 On Monday, January 13, 2014 9:37:18 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:

 I apparently volunteered in the Jamboree thread to start organizing
 so I'm starting this new thread.

 Question 1: When? The date in the poll was 7/19, but I've heard
 requests for 7/12 and 7/26. Send me your vote please or do a poll.

 Question 2: Can you volunteer some time to help move this along?
 Volunteers could meet and hash out details, or we can try to coordinate 
 by
 e-mail. Let me know your preference.

 Question 3: What is the wing speed of a swallow?

 Tentative itinerary: China Camp and various meanderings around Marin;
 trip to RBW and possibly the largest ever Diablo S24O; bbq at Grant's 
 house
 (just kidding on that one).


 happy trails,
 jim m
 wc ca

 P.S. Revered listmaster Cyclofiend, please pin near the top. Thanks

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Re: [RBW] RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-06-22 Thread Hugh Smitham
I think it means that all the camp spots you can drive in have been
reserved. I believe you can still park and ride your bike in to the
hiker/biker sites and camp...no reservations needed.  Someone please
confirm my understanding for China Camp and Sam P. Taylor.

~Hugh
On Jun 22, 2014 8:53 PM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote:

 What does all full mean exactly?  Is there still room for one more
 fellar from The Dalles, OR? Happy to say I got the all clear for Friday and
 Saturday night.  Returning north to The Dalles on Sunday though.

 -Aaron Young
 The Dalles, OR

 On Friday, June 13, 2014, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 11th is all full...

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I'm hitching a ride from PDX on the 11th and I presume we'd make camp @
 CC on the 11th? My ride may have other plans or choose to wing it .Maybe
 make a reservation if it's not to late.

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 4:53 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Is anyone getting a spot(s) on Friday the 11th? And if so, would you
 have room for two more + a car??? Curtis and I are trying to figure out a
 way to drive up Friday a.m. He would be staying through, but I'd be doing a
 quick turn around and leaving Sat. noonish (every party has a pooper)...

 Any other suggestions for two vagabonditos for the Friday night?

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6:14 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Philip, wow!



 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Philip Williamson 
 philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tee shirt preorder: http://etsy.me/1xM6K5o
 *If you're coming to the Jamboree, use coupon PICKUP* to remove
 the shipping charge.

 PM me if anything goes wrong with your order - it's been a year since
 I've used Etsy.

 I'm going to print these on unbleached white shirts in soft-hand (not
 plastisol) inks.
 Choose your size, S thru XXL, and your bike color: Orange, Blue, or
 Green.

 The shirts will be delivered at the Jamboree, or mailed out the week
 after, for non-attendees.

 (First time ever uploading photos to the Group)


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UuskA4e6CY4/U5omJZnDONI/CzQ/PiVUR0RcVlc/s1600/bike-detail.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bEaxUtQCEMo/U5omXzjpx9I/Czo/shIu1rN8QEU/s1600/riv-orange.jpg


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-aaPweNg3NJo/U5omb6JuI6I/Czw/2ieRBixIR_c/s1600/riv-pencil-blue.jpg

 Thanks!
 Philip
 www.biketinker.com


 On Monday, January 13, 2014 9:37:18 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:

 I apparently volunteered in the Jamboree thread to start organizing
 so I'm starting this new thread.

 Question 1: When? The date in the poll was 7/19, but I've heard
 requests for 7/12 and 7/26. Send me your vote please or do a poll.

 Question 2: Can you volunteer some time to help move this along?
 Volunteers could meet and hash out details, or we can try to coordinate 
 by
 e-mail. Let me know your preference.

 Question 3: What is the wing speed of a swallow?

 Tentative itinerary: China Camp and various meanderings around
 Marin; trip to RBW and possibly the largest ever Diablo S24O; bbq at
 Grant's house (just kidding on that one).


 happy trails,
 jim m
 wc ca

 P.S. Revered listmaster Cyclofiend, please pin near the top. Thanks

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Re: [RBW] RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-06-22 Thread Hugh Smitham
I think a few posts above a local said folks could park in his neighborhood
then ride the 6 miles to C.C.
On Jun 22, 2014 8:57 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think it means that all the camp spots you can drive in have been
 reserved. I believe you can still park and ride your bike in to the
 hiker/biker sites and camp...no reservations needed.  Someone please
 confirm my understanding for China Camp and Sam P. Taylor.

 ~Hugh
 On Jun 22, 2014 8:53 PM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote:

 What does all full mean exactly?  Is there still room for one more
 fellar from The Dalles, OR? Happy to say I got the all clear for Friday and
 Saturday night.  Returning north to The Dalles on Sunday though.

 -Aaron Young
 The Dalles, OR

 On Friday, June 13, 2014, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 11th is all full...

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I'm hitching a ride from PDX on the 11th and I presume we'd make camp @
 CC on the 11th? My ride may have other plans or choose to wing it .Maybe
 make a reservation if it's not to late.

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 4:53 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Is anyone getting a spot(s) on Friday the 11th? And if so, would you
 have room for two more + a car??? Curtis and I are trying to figure out a
 way to drive up Friday a.m. He would be staying through, but I'd be doing 
 a
 quick turn around and leaving Sat. noonish (every party has a pooper)...

 Any other suggestions for two vagabonditos for the Friday night?

 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6:14 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Philip, wow!



 Cheers,
 David

 it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





 On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Philip Williamson 
 philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tee shirt preorder: http://etsy.me/1xM6K5o
 *If you're coming to the Jamboree, use coupon PICKUP* to remove
 the shipping charge.

 PM me if anything goes wrong with your order - it's been a year
 since I've used Etsy.

 I'm going to print these on unbleached white shirts in soft-hand
 (not plastisol) inks.
 Choose your size, S thru XXL, and your bike color: Orange, Blue, or
 Green.

 The shirts will be delivered at the Jamboree, or mailed out the week
 after, for non-attendees.

 (First time ever uploading photos to the Group)


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-UuskA4e6CY4/U5omJZnDONI/CzQ/PiVUR0RcVlc/s1600/bike-detail.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bEaxUtQCEMo/U5omXzjpx9I/Czo/shIu1rN8QEU/s1600/riv-orange.jpg


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-aaPweNg3NJo/U5omb6JuI6I/Czw/2ieRBixIR_c/s1600/riv-pencil-blue.jpg

 Thanks!
 Philip
 www.biketinker.com


 On Monday, January 13, 2014 9:37:18 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:

 I apparently volunteered in the Jamboree thread to start organizing
 so I'm starting this new thread.

 Question 1: When? The date in the poll was 7/19, but I've heard
 requests for 7/12 and 7/26. Send me your vote please or do a poll.

 Question 2: Can you volunteer some time to help move this along?
 Volunteers could meet and hash out details, or we can try to 
 coordinate by
 e-mail. Let me know your preference.

 Question 3: What is the wing speed of a swallow?

 Tentative itinerary: China Camp and various meanderings around
 Marin; trip to RBW and possibly the largest ever Diablo S24O; bbq at
 Grant's house (just kidding on that one).


 happy trails,
 jim m
 wc ca

 P.S. Revered listmaster Cyclofiend, please pin near the top. Thanks

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Re: [RBW] Re: Pics of your Riv with a wild animal...

2014-06-22 Thread Jim Bronson
I dig the titanium look of your paint job.


On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 6:58 PM, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com
wrote:

 Was out meandering today and got up close to a heron.  It was pretty
 focused on finding dinner...very still, very cool.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/14289794787/sizes/c/
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/14475050984/sizes/l

 Also saw some beetles crossing the road.
 https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5113/14289786717_75f5c94a4c_c.jpg

 The biggest pack of animals was at the Solstice Parade in
 Fremont...several hundred nude cyclistsmadness!  Saw some interesting
 things but didn't see any Rivendells.
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/14476299505/sizes/c/




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[RBW] FS: Rivendell Betty Foy Frame, Fork, and Honjo Fenders

2014-06-22 Thread J. Arita
Thanks for all the inquiries...sale is now pending :)

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[RBW] Riv Owner Qualifications

2014-06-22 Thread Mathew Greiner
I've been wondering lately, what percentage of my bike needs to originate 
at Rivendell to qualify as a real RBW Owner? Obviously, a frame will do the 
trick, but that's something I don't have have, and probably won't anytime 
real soon. Meanwhile, just about every other part of my bike was bought 
from Rivendell. Tires, saddle, bar, grips, bar end Silvers, brakes, 
fenders, double legger kickstand, multiple straps, a Saddlesack, and many 
of my favorite wardrobe items. Bar tape and one or two accessories weren't 
ordered from Riv, but are the brands sold there. There's twine wrapped in 
more than a few places. I've read, recommended, and loaned both the latest 
RBW catalog and *Just Ride.* A hatchet and some camping bits are likely to 
be ordered soon. 
 Is there a component percentage or a ratio of parts by mass that determine 
how Rivvy a bike is? Now, I'm sure I can call myself an iBOB, but as Google 
Groups go, the tone here is more comfortable. No one will quibble if I lurk 
or occasionally suggest that if Riv describes a hunk-O-cheese as a good 
thing to put in a Sackville pannier, then cheese should be On Topic, but am 
I a Riv Owner? Not exactly, but I'd like to think that if I mailed a 
postcard to HQ, they'd reply with the same.

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[RBW] Re: Riv Owner Qualifications

2014-06-22 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Hey there Matthew - 

There's never been a litmus test.  Or a percentage.  Just an interest to 
engage in polite discussion is all that is needed. 

The topics here are definitely narrower than other lists, by design and 
agreement.  But the tone and quality of this group comes entirely from the 
folks who share their stories, knowledge, questions and photographs. We are 
all lucky to have found one another. 

Welcome and enjoy the discussions!

- JIm / list admin

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[RBW] Re: Entmoot plans?

2014-06-22 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Hrum Hooom.

Ents being notoriously methodical and ponderous (non-hasty) in 
decision-making, this could take a while. 

I've been of the same mind as Philip, though the first step is to fix the 
two things that have had my Quickbeam hanging rather than rolling.  

So, to this weeks agenda, those tasks have been added.  Given that 
Quickbeam was always regarded as the hasty ent, I see nothing wrong with 
such mercurial decisions. 

- Jim

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