[RBW] Re: How have your Rivendells held up on salty winter roads?

2015-01-30 Thread Anton Tutter
Exactly my feelings.  Also, as I understand it, there is some additional 
debate regarding whether bringing your bike indoors to clean is better than 
just leaving it out in the cold all winter-- the idea being that rust is 
inhibited by cold temps. I don't know if this idea has any merit or not. 
But like KJ, I'm of the mind that it's just better to ride a beater that 
you don't care about for salt duty, and keep the 'bikes you love' for the 
three salt-free seasons.

Anton


On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 10:22:28 AM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:

 I dunno - my Cross Check is on it's 3rd winter here in Toronto and rust 
 has developed on most of the parts and on some of the threaded braze-ons. I 
 treat the frame internally with T9 each year but you can't coat the entire 
 bike in rust inhibitor. 

 I do agree that diligent washing and care makes a big difference, which is 
 aided by having good and convenient facilities at home to do so. However, 
 repeated freezing/thawing and application of water presents additional 
 issues with seals and bearings. 

 I would hesitate to ride a nice bike through the winter in an area that 
 salts the roads heavily. It just eats bikes for breakfast. It gets to a 
 point where you're just better off riding a cheap beater bike and sparing 
 the ones you love.

 KJ


 On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 9:33:04 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:



 So how have your bikes fared in the heavy salt. I have full coverage 
 fenders, so maybe that would help a lot.



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[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
Comfort Sport Bike  sounds like a winner to me.



On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 6:37:14 AM UTC-6, Anton Tutter wrote:

 SS: sensible sport 
 CS: comfort sport 


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[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
Comfort Sport or sounds like a great category descriptor!



On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 6:37:14 AM UTC-6, Anton Tutter wrote:

 SS: sensible sport 
 CS: comfort sport 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-30 Thread Hugh Smitham
I concur with Shoji, that's been my experience thus far. A great rolling
tire nonetheless.

Cheers,

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/



On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:16 AM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi DS,
 I have 26 Big Bens on my Hunqapillar. I find the cornering to-be
 squirrely on roads if the tire pressure is too low (and cornering speeds
 are somewhat high). Easily resolved by raising the pressure a bit. If
 you're going on a mixed terrain ride, I'd say pump 'em up a little more.
 Shoji


 On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 5:29:09 PM UTC-5, DS wrote:

 Does anyone notice or have any input on handling with a Big Ben or
 balloon type tire? Especially on cornering on fast descents?

 Reason I ask is, I just bought some Big Bens (26 x 2.15) for my
 Hunqapillar for mixed ride use. Took them out for a first ride a few weeks
 ago, had a bad crash while on a somewhat but not terribly fast descent on
 pavement, turning into a curve, though I'm 95% sure it was due to a way
 under inflated tire (I had a flat about 20 minutes before that on the
 trails and replaced tube but feel I did not inflate enough for the ride
 home).

 Today, went out with properly-ish inflated tires (34 front, 40 psi rear),
 but still felt like the bike was squirrely on turns and it felt like the
 bike was going to slide out underneath me on some moderate turns, so I took
 them pretty slow. But, it was also my first ride back since the crash, so
 maybe that had something else to do with it. Anyone else have any comments
 on the handling of these? Am I imagining things and being overly sensitive
 due to the crash and this is user error?

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Re: [RBW] Re: How have your Rivendells held up on salty winter roads?

2015-01-30 Thread Tim Gavin
I garage my Riv during the salt months here in Iowa.  And I noticed a fair
amount of new rust on the Schwinn KOM I rode last winter (only 5 or 6
times; it was a brutally cold winter).  That bike is currently getting
repainted after some brazing and blasting.

Now I ride my fat bike during the winter; that's its raison d'etre.  Ergo,
corrosion resistance factored into my purchase decision.   I bought an
aluminum-framed Fatboy instead of one of the steel Surly models.

A fat bike is great on lousy surfaces.  But it's also great for cold
weather; it keeps me warm due to the extra pedal effort required.  ;)

Tim Gavin
Cedar Rapids, IA

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I dunno - my Cross Check is on it's 3rd winter here in Toronto and rust
 has developed on most of the parts and on some of the threaded braze-ons. I
 treat the frame internally with T9 each year but you can't coat the entire
 bike in rust inhibitor.

 I do agree that diligent washing and care makes a big difference, which is
 aided by having good and convenient facilities at home to do so. However,
 repeated freezing/thawing and application of water presents additional
 issues with seals and bearings.

 I would hesitate to ride a nice bike through the winter in an area that
 salts the roads heavily. It just eats bikes for breakfast. It gets to a
 point where you're just better off riding a cheap beater bike and sparing
 the ones you love.

 KJ


 On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 9:33:04 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:



 So how have your bikes fared in the heavy salt. I have full coverage
 fenders, so maybe that would help a lot.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike

2015-01-30 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
IF kiddo can fit it, the 24 Hotrocks with A1 frames are great 
bikes: http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/bik/4857987825.html 
Very much on the MTB side of the spectrum, but with the A1 frame and sturdy 
yet quality components. Fork is unnecessary, but it is what it is. 
We've had three of these at various times, down to one currently, and very 
impressed with them.

On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 8:03:15 AM UTC-8, LeahFoy wrote:

 Well, I started hunting online last night. There isn't much for local 
 offerings around here - and what is offered has some sort of issue. I've 
 looked at Trek and Specialized. I've been a fan of the Specialized bikes 
 (my older son has the 24 inch and the frame accepted a rear rack and the 
 shifting is good) and I've only found this one. I don't like suspension 
 forks, though. I have until July, so I have some time to keep looking. 

 http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/bik/4811042866.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike

2015-01-30 Thread LeahFoy
Well, I started hunting online last night. There isn't much for local offerings 
around here - and what is offered has some sort of issue. I've looked at Trek 
and Specialized. I've been a fan of the Specialized bikes (my older son has the 
24 inch and the frame accepted a rear rack and the shifting is good) and I've 
only found this one. I don't like suspension forks, though. I have until July, 
so I have some time to keep looking.

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/bik/4811042866.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike

2015-01-30 Thread Anton Tutter


Leah, my oldest's Raleigh Mountain Scout with 24 wheels accepted a rack 
just fine-- it's a rack made for 26 wheels and sticks up just a little 
high but works perfectly. She straps her voila to it to transport it to and 
from school.  We found the bike for $50 on Craigslist last fall. The 
quality and level of components is comparable to Trek and Specialized. 
Definitely a couple steps up from the Big Box store bikes.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--lyjNrm0UbA/VMuwfVjEOuI/Bqc/MlsENLM-8a0/s1600/raleigh.jpg



On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 11:03:15 AM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote:

 Well, I started hunting online last night. There isn't much for local 
 offerings around here - and what is offered has some sort of issue. I've 
 looked at Trek and Specialized. I've been a fan of the Specialized bikes 
 (my older son has the 24 inch and the frame accepted a rear rack and the 
 shifting is good) and I've only found this one. I don't like suspension 
 forks, though. I have until July, so I have some time to keep looking. 

 http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/bik/4811042866.html

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[RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-30 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hi DS,
I have 26 Big Bens on my Hunqapillar. I find the cornering to-be squirrely 
on roads if the tire pressure is too low (and cornering speeds are somewhat 
high). Easily resolved by raising the pressure a bit. If you're going on a 
mixed terrain ride, I'd say pump 'em up a little more.
Shoji


On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 5:29:09 PM UTC-5, DS wrote:

 Does anyone notice or have any input on handling with a Big Ben or balloon 
 type tire? Especially on cornering on fast descents?

 Reason I ask is, I just bought some Big Bens (26 x 2.15) for my 
 Hunqapillar for mixed ride use. Took them out for a first ride a few weeks 
 ago, had a bad crash while on a somewhat but not terribly fast descent on 
 pavement, turning into a curve, though I'm 95% sure it was due to a way 
 under inflated tire (I had a flat about 20 minutes before that on the 
 trails and replaced tube but feel I did not inflate enough for the ride 
 home). 

 Today, went out with properly-ish inflated tires (34 front, 40 psi rear), 
 but still felt like the bike was squirrely on turns and it felt like the 
 bike was going to slide out underneath me on some moderate turns, so I took 
 them pretty slow. But, it was also my first ride back since the crash, so 
 maybe that had something else to do with it. Anyone else have any comments 
 on the handling of these? Am I imagining things and being overly sensitive 
 due to the crash and this is user error?


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[RBW] Re: How have your Rivendells held up on salty winter roads?

2015-01-30 Thread Kieran J
I dunno - my Cross Check is on it's 3rd winter here in Toronto and rust has 
developed on most of the parts and on some of the threaded braze-ons. I 
treat the frame internally with T9 each year but you can't coat the entire 
bike in rust inhibitor. 

I do agree that diligent washing and care makes a big difference, which is 
aided by having good and convenient facilities at home to do so. However, 
repeated freezing/thawing and application of water presents additional 
issues with seals and bearings. 

I would hesitate to ride a nice bike through the winter in an area that 
salts the roads heavily. It just eats bikes for breakfast. It gets to a 
point where you're just better off riding a cheap beater bike and sparing 
the ones you love.

KJ


On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 9:33:04 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:



 So how have your bikes fared in the heavy salt. I have full coverage 
 fenders, so maybe that would help a lot.


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[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Bill Lindsay
Chipotle to the restaurant world is Jeremy's category to the cycling world

The category is Fast Casual

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[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Edwin W
Transporty

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Re: [RBW] Atlantis + Nitto M12 FR = ???

2015-01-30 Thread Aaron Young
Tim,

Good idea there.  I'll try that.  Bending the canti arms was up'n'down was
exactly what was bugging me.  Seemed like the arms are long enough levers
to make breaking the weld not too difficult.  Will let you know how it goes.

Thanks,
Aaron

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.com
wrote:

 I love the M12, it fit my KOM fork perfectly with very little bending.  If
 you're worried about bending at the weld points, then maybe use clamps or a
 vise to isolate the areas you're bending.

 Also, I'd bend each arm in one direction only.  Bend the top fork arm
 (that goes to the brake bolt hole) for the up and down adjustment, and bend
 the canti bolt arms outward for the lateral fit.

 I used the double-ended canti bolts that Riv sells
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/rh2.htm, but the M12 I bought
 http://www.modernbike.com/nitto-m12-front-rack came with them included
 (and was only $82 with free shipping).

 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Bunch,

 Trying to fit a Nitto M12 (attaches to canti bosses) onto a 56 Atlantis.
 Having trouble bending the rack to get the right fit.  Feeling like I'm
 bending it against the welds in ways and with force that might lead to
 damage/breakage.

 Any hints to get the rack to fit?  Am I being too timid about those
 welds? Just go for it with a bit more muscle?

 Thanks,

 Aaron Rack-Flummoxed Young
 The Dalles, OR

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[RBW] Re: FS Thread Part 2

2015-01-30 Thread 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch
Zack, sending PM re windshirt

~pb

On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 11:58:47 AM UTC-8, Zack wrote:

 Marmot Dri Clime Windshirt, Black, XL, worn a few times $35.  (Note: This 
 jacket is so great as a cold weather cycling jacket)
 Ibex OD Heather Long Sleeve, Green, XL, barely worn $75.
 Ibex Blue Polo, XL, worn a few times $45.
 Brooks D Shaped tool bag, Honey, used maybe twice, great condition $50.  

 add $5 shipping for first item, shipping free for each additional item.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Chris Chen
hahaha Fast Casual I like it!

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 You might say you're getting a lot of mileage out of it.


 On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 4:07:22 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:

 Evidently, Chipotle is surprisingly versatile for many cycling analogies!

 KJ


 On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 3:50:53 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Chipotle to the restaurant world is Jeremy's category to the cycling
 world

 The category is Fast Casual

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[RBW] Fixing gummed-up 9 speed Shimano bar-ends? possible?

2015-01-30 Thread Jim Bronson
OK, I sweat a lot when it's hot and I live in Austin, Texas so it gets
really hot.  Got a bar end that's gummed up with sweat by-products.

Is there any way to disassemble the indexing mechanism?  I can only
use 7 gears and then it won't go any further.  I've had it soaking in
a bucket of paint thinner for a couple of days hoping that whatever
grime was in there would be loosened up, but so far no luck.  FWIW, I
don't get a full range of motion when I switch it to friction, either.

Or should I just look for some new Shimano downtube shifters to mount
onto the existing pods?

I haven't used this shifter in a while because I was going to ride a
1000K in October and discovered last minute that I was not able to get
into the two highest gears, so I threw a Microshift bar end in there
that I had sitting around.  But I would like to be able to use the
Shimano shifter, if not in my Riv, then maybe somewhere else where I
wouldn't sweat on it so much.

In case you were wondering...the Microshift has worked great but it's
not quite as precise as the Shimano, i.e., there is more slop in each
gear detent.  Sometimes you have to lightly press down on the lever to
quiet the drivetrain.  Not so much pressure that you shift into the
next gear up, just enough so it sits against the detent.



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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto, Schwalbe, Shimano, Mavic, MKS, Modolo more.

2015-01-30 Thread Patrick Shea
Still have the Bosco bars? If so, I'll take 'em.

Cheers,
Patrick

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Antonioni Vicente 
likewisewildf...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK, now it's serious.  New stuff, lower prices on stuff you may have seen
 posted before  just waaay more stuff.

 cockpit
 Nitto Technomic Standard 26.0, 130mm extension.  Good condition.  $25
 Nitto Dirt Drop 8.  Very good condition.  $43
 Nitto Dirt Drop 10.  Very good condition.  $43
 Bridgestone XO-2 stock quill stem, black.  Very good condition.  $5
 Tange 1 threaded headset, silver.  Unsure of model but looks BMX-y.  Used
 but good condition.  $5
 Nitto Noodle 48's.  Gunk from tape and scuffs only on clamp area.
 Nitto/dragon logo flawless.  $50
 Nitto Bosco 55cm CroMo.  Very good condition.  $45
 Modolo Brevettato 44cm E-2091 26.0.  Scuffed but good condition otherwise.
  $18
 SR bullmoose-esque: straight bar with double clamp stem, 21.1 quill, 25.4
 clamp.  Good condition.  $10

 brake
 Mafac Racers, front  rear, complete with Mafac-branded front  rear cable
 hangers.  Good condition.  $45
 Shimano Tiagra road brake levers, silver w/ black hoods.  Very good
 condition.  $38
 Shimano 105 road brake levers, silver w/ black hoods.  Good condition.  $18

 drive/shift
 Shimano 105 Golden Arrow derailleur set.  Front is marked FD-A105, rear is
 short cage  unmarked.  $15
 Shimano mountain-LX front  rear derailleurs.  FD-M542  RD-M542.  Very
 good condition.  $35
 Shimano BB-UN55 68 x 127.  Square taper.  Installed but never ridden.  $10
 MKS Sylvan track pedals.  Brand new.  $14
 Shimano 6 speed freewheel, mf-z012 13-16-19-23-28-34.  Good condition.  $7
 Shimano cassette, 8 speed, 12-23.  Very good condition.  $10
 Shimano Ultegra bar end shifters, 8 speed.  A few scuffs on outside of pod
 mounts but otherwise very good condition.  $60

 tires/wheels
 Schwalbe Smart Sams 26 x 2.1, folding bead.  Brand new.  $50/pair
 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 35, folding bead. 2K.  $75/pair
 Schwalbe Marathon 700 x 28.  Very good condition.  $45/pair
 Resist Nomad 700 x 45, Black/tan sidewall.  Good condition.  $22/pair
 Specialized All Condition 700 X 23.  Good condition.  $7
 Specialized All Condition 700 X 25.  Good condition.  $7
 Specialized Roubaix 700 X 23/25, folding bead.  Good condition.  $16/pair
 Panaracer 700 X 25 TServ for Messenger.  Good condition.  $7
 700c wheelset, Mavic MA 40 grey anodized.  Front hub: shimano 600
 (hb-6207), rear hub sealed Performance.  Freewheel only.  Wheels spin
 smoothly and are true.  A very pretty road wheelset.  Good condition.  $50

 gear
 Mammut Crater Goretex rain jacket, black.  Large.  New with Tags.  $250
  (retails at $379)
 Pearl Izumi Shoe Covers Pro WXB.  X-Large.  Never used.  $30
 Sac La Fuma vintage french hiking pack.  Pictures  details:
 http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/spo/4789261024.html  $50

 tools/misc
 Spin Doctor cone wrench set 13-19mm.  Light use.  $15/set
 Problem Solvers Backstop, black 1 1/4 i.d. New.  $5
 Shimano Dura Ace track cog lock ring, NJS stamped.  $5


 Trade interested icluding but not limited to Nitto Jitensha bars, aluminum
 heat treated Albatross, King Iris cages, Park Truing stand 2 or 2.2, a
 64cm-67cm steel lugged road frame and fork, Nitto Tallux 6, 7 /or 11,
 Schmidt Edulux II  SON hub, HA Rack Sackville Bag (tan), Carradice Bagman
 support, 700c Compass tires.

 the 411/fine print
 Prices do not include shipping.  Open to reasonable offers.  Discounts for
 multiple items.  Paypal preferred.  Currently too lazy to erect a proper
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 (72fore 7fiiive7 935ate  lemme know you're a RBW/BOB).  Apologies for the
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Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-30 Thread David Stein
Shoji and Hugh - what psi do you run at typically? understood that weigh of
rider plus racks and bags and stuff can play into that. Thanks for the
feedback though. Taking it out this weekend on an all pavement ride and
will run at higher psi and be cautious on downhill turns. I also lowered my
handlebars some which was also recommended.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 I concur with Shoji, that's been my experience thus far. A great rolling
 tire nonetheless.

 Cheers,

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/



 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:16 AM, Shoji Takahashi 
 shoji.takaha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi DS,
 I have 26 Big Bens on my Hunqapillar. I find the cornering to-be
 squirrely on roads if the tire pressure is too low (and cornering speeds
 are somewhat high). Easily resolved by raising the pressure a bit. If
 you're going on a mixed terrain ride, I'd say pump 'em up a little more.
 Shoji


 On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 5:29:09 PM UTC-5, DS wrote:

 Does anyone notice or have any input on handling with a Big Ben or
 balloon type tire? Especially on cornering on fast descents?

 Reason I ask is, I just bought some Big Bens (26 x 2.15) for my
 Hunqapillar for mixed ride use. Took them out for a first ride a few weeks
 ago, had a bad crash while on a somewhat but not terribly fast descent on
 pavement, turning into a curve, though I'm 95% sure it was due to a way
 under inflated tire (I had a flat about 20 minutes before that on the
 trails and replaced tube but feel I did not inflate enough for the ride
 home).

 Today, went out with properly-ish inflated tires (34 front, 40 psi
 rear), but still felt like the bike was squirrely on turns and it felt like
 the bike was going to slide out underneath me on some moderate turns, so I
 took them pretty slow. But, it was also my first ride back since the crash,
 so maybe that had something else to do with it. Anyone else have any
 comments on the handling of these? Am I imagining things and being overly
 sensitive due to the crash and this is user error?

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[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Kieran J
Evidently, Chipotle is surprisingly versatile for many cycling analogies!

KJ


On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 3:50:53 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 Chipotle to the restaurant world is Jeremy's category to the cycling world 

 The category is Fast Casual

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[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Kieran J
You might say you're getting a lot of mileage out of it.


On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 4:07:22 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:

 Evidently, Chipotle is surprisingly versatile for many cycling analogies!

 KJ


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 Chipotle to the restaurant world is Jeremy's category to the cycling 
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 The category is Fast Casual



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[RBW] Re: How have your Rivendells held up on salty winter roads?

2015-01-30 Thread Zack
I am with Tim.  I rode my Sam in the winter in vermont all the time.  

I don't think you'd be destroying your Riv to ride it for five weeks in the 
snow.  

Good luck!

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RE: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
+1

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Chipotle to the restaurant world is Jeremy's category to the cycling world

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[RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike

2015-01-30 Thread Shoji Takahashi
My 4.5-yo son rides an Islabike (Cnoc14). It's a wonderful bike-- 
lightweight, good proportions for small bodies, excellent components. It 
has fender mounts; I don't think the 14 has rack mounts. I know that the 
larger (16+?) have rack mounts and specially designed+fitted racks as 
options.

IMHO, Islabikes are not inexpensive, but worth it.

Leah-- 
(I'm don't think it was covered earlier in the thread.) 

Is your child driving the change to alba-style handlebars? or is it the 
Riv-thing? There's nothing wrong with flat bars, unless they're causing 
problems (e.g., hand pain). Many kids bikes seem to have a fairly high 
handle-bar position as a result of frame design.

Good luck!
Shoji


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 My 7 year old has the 20 inch Specialized hot rock without suspension. It 
 is a pretty nice bike. It is lighter than a lot of the similar bikes and 
 one of the few kids bikes you can get without suspension. Another option to 
 check out is Islabikes. 

 Dan Abelson 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-30 Thread David Stein
For me, really it's only been on these big bens. 2.1 smart sams and other 
various 40mm + tires have all seemed fine on pavement and cornering even at 
mid-thirties psi. Though it's only been 2 rides in on the big bens and I'm 
obviously way overthinking this in between rides ;) 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 30, 2015, at 11:42 AM, cyclotour...@gmail.com 
 cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This is a bit of a quandary for me. I like high-volume (40mm+) tires as they 
 provide a smoother ride at low pressure. But that low pressure in turn makes 
 cornering unpleasant (at least for me). I dislike that squishy transition 
 feeling that happens with low pressure at high speed turns. 
 
 The obvious answer is to inflate them to a higher pressure, but that defeats 
 the advantages of the high volume/low pressure tire. If I'm going to do that, 
 I might as well stick w/ 33mm tires. 
 
 Is this just me?
 
 
 On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 11:21:56 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:
 Solid advice from Shoji and I think applicable to many tires, not just 
 the Big Bens.  My LoupLoups get a bit squirrely on high speed 
 descending turns when pressure gets below 55 or so. 
 
 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Shoji Takahashi 
 shoji.t...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Hi DS, 
  I have 26 Big Bens on my Hunqapillar. I find the cornering to-be 
  squirrely 
  on roads if the tire pressure is too low (and cornering speeds are 
  somewhat 
  high). Easily resolved by raising the pressure a bit. If you're going on a 
  mixed terrain ride, I'd say pump 'em up a little more. 
  Shoji 
  
  
  On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 5:29:09 PM UTC-5, DS wrote: 
  
  Does anyone notice or have any input on handling with a Big Ben or 
  balloon 
  type tire? Especially on cornering on fast descents? 
  
  Reason I ask is, I just bought some Big Bens (26 x 2.15) for my 
  Hunqapillar for mixed ride use. Took them out for a first ride a few 
  weeks 
  ago, had a bad crash while on a somewhat but not terribly fast descent on 
  pavement, turning into a curve, though I'm 95% sure it was due to a way 
  under inflated tire (I had a flat about 20 minutes before that on the 
  trails 
  and replaced tube but feel I did not inflate enough for the ride home). 
  
  Today, went out with properly-ish inflated tires (34 front, 40 psi rear), 
  but still felt like the bike was squirrely on turns and it felt like the 
  bike was going to slide out underneath me on some moderate turns, so I 
  took 
  them pretty slow. But, it was also my first ride back since the crash, so 
  maybe that had something else to do with it. Anyone else have any 
  comments 
  on the handling of these? Am I imagining things and being overly 
  sensitive 
  due to the crash and this is user error? 
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Chris Chen
We of the Upright Cyclists Brigade are mildly amused.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:54 AM, John Phillips jphillip...@icloud.com
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 The name needs some snappy alliteration and/or assonance like gravel
 grinder if it's going to stick.

 My vote goes for Keith's idea: Couch Rocket or maybe Retro Couch
 Rocket.

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[RBW] Atlantis + Nitto M12 FR = ???

2015-01-30 Thread Aaron Young
Hey Bunch,

Trying to fit a Nitto M12 (attaches to canti bosses) onto a 56 Atlantis.
Having trouble bending the rack to get the right fit.  Feeling like I'm
bending it against the welds in ways and with force that might lead to
damage/breakage.

Any hints to get the rack to fit?  Am I being too timid about those welds?
Just go for it with a bit more muscle?

Thanks,

Aaron Rack-Flummoxed Young
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[RBW] Re: Fixing gummed-up 9 speed Shimano bar-ends? possible?

2015-01-30 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Remove them from the bike and hose them down with WD-40 or put in a parts 
washer if you have one. 
I had tremendous good results with doing that on Ultegra brifters. Simpler 
bar-ends should clean up great!


On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 10:18:38 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:

 OK, I sweat a lot when it's hot and I live in Austin, Texas so it gets 
 really hot.  Got a bar end that's gummed up with sweat by-products. 

 Is there any way to disassemble the indexing mechanism?  I can only 
 use 7 gears and then it won't go any further.  I've had it soaking in 
 a bucket of paint thinner for a couple of days hoping that whatever 
 grime was in there would be loosened up, but so far no luck.  FWIW, I 
 don't get a full range of motion when I switch it to friction, either. 

 Or should I just look for some new Shimano downtube shifters to mount 
 onto the existing pods? 

 I haven't used this shifter in a while because I was going to ride a 
 1000K in October and discovered last minute that I was not able to get 
 into the two highest gears, so I threw a Microshift bar end in there 
 that I had sitting around.  But I would like to be able to use the 
 Shimano shifter, if not in my Riv, then maybe somewhere else where I 
 wouldn't sweat on it so much. 

 In case you were wondering...the Microshift has worked great but it's 
 not quite as precise as the Shimano, i.e., there is more slop in each 
 gear detent.  Sometimes you have to lightly press down on the lever to 
 quiet the drivetrain.  Not so much pressure that you shift into the 
 next gear up, just enough so it sits against the detent. 



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Re: [RBW] Fixing gummed-up 9 speed Shimano bar-ends? possible?

2015-01-30 Thread Tim Gavin
Maybe try an ultrasonic parts washer.  The LBS I work at has one, call
around?

I don't know if ultrasonic is ok for the plastic innards.  I do know that
it will take the logos off aluminum parts.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK, I sweat a lot when it's hot and I live in Austin, Texas so it gets
 really hot.  Got a bar end that's gummed up with sweat by-products.

 Is there any way to disassemble the indexing mechanism?  I can only
 use 7 gears and then it won't go any further.  I've had it soaking in
 a bucket of paint thinner for a couple of days hoping that whatever
 grime was in there would be loosened up, but so far no luck.  FWIW, I
 don't get a full range of motion when I switch it to friction, either.

 Or should I just look for some new Shimano downtube shifters to mount
 onto the existing pods?

 I haven't used this shifter in a while because I was going to ride a
 1000K in October and discovered last minute that I was not able to get
 into the two highest gears, so I threw a Microshift bar end in there
 that I had sitting around.  But I would like to be able to use the
 Shimano shifter, if not in my Riv, then maybe somewhere else where I
 wouldn't sweat on it so much.

 In case you were wondering...the Microshift has worked great but it's
 not quite as precise as the Shimano, i.e., there is more slop in each
 gear detent.  Sometimes you have to lightly press down on the lever to
 quiet the drivetrain.  Not so much pressure that you shift into the
 next gear up, just enough so it sits against the detent.



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Re: [RBW] Boeshield and resistance?

2015-01-30 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 01/30/2015 02:29 PM, lungimsam wrote:

I love Boeshield because it burns so clean.

But sometimes I feel like it gums up the works and adds noticeable resistance 
to the drivetrain.
I have felt in the past that it does this after fresh application. But, as with 
all things bike, there are so many factors that determine how you feel on a 
bike on a given day it's hard to say for sure.

However, last night I put a heaping helpin' of it on my chain to help protect 
against the road salts out these days and for the ride I went on today.. It was 
an all out overdose for sure. The liquid version. I figure it dries as a wax 
and sheds so let me get alot on there to make as big a barrier as possible 
against the salts.

Anyway, on today's ride I felt like I was pedalling through concrete, even on 
flats.
I stopped twice to be sure a brake pad wasn't rubbing. Nothing rubbing.

Anyone noticed this with their use of Boeshield.


No, but the way I use it is to remove the chain and soak it for a while 
in mineral spirits, let it dry, reinstall, apply Boeshield, then wipe 
off the excess.



Again, it's hard to say what makes you feel sluggish on a given day. But this 
made my usual sluggish look sloth like. It was crazy today. I can't blame the 
Boeshield with certainty. But I had good energy. Not sure what's going on. 
Perhaps I'll try something else and see if the concrete effect goes away.
Maybe road salts caked on tires slows you down?



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Re: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Anton Tutter
No no no... Not Sport, Transport... Mike Flanigan's ANT mantra.



On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 1:00:55 PM UTC-5, stonehog wrote:

 Sport Transport!

 Brian

 On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 9:57:35 AM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote:

 We of the Upright Cyclists Brigade are mildly amused.

 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:54 AM, John Phillips jphil...@icloud.com 
 wrote:

 The name needs some snappy alliteration and/or assonance like gravel 
 grinder if it's going to stick.

 My vote goes for Keith's idea: Couch Rocket or maybe Retro Couch 
 Rocket.

 John

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Re: [RBW] Fixing gummed-up 9 speed Shimano bar-ends? possible?

2015-01-30 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Are you sure the square thingy is aligned properly? If it's not, that would 
give you the same problem.

On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 8:40:23 PM UTC+2, Tim Gavin wrote:

 Maybe try an ultrasonic parts washer.  The LBS I work at has one, call 
 around?

 I don't know if ultrasonic is ok for the plastic innards.  I do know that 
 it will take the logos off aluminum parts.

 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 OK, I sweat a lot when it's hot and I live in Austin, Texas so it gets
 really hot.  Got a bar end that's gummed up with sweat by-products.

 Is there any way to disassemble the indexing mechanism?  I can only
 use 7 gears and then it won't go any further.  I've had it soaking in
 a bucket of paint thinner for a couple of days hoping that whatever
 grime was in there would be loosened up, but so far no luck.  FWIW, I
 don't get a full range of motion when I switch it to friction, either.

 Or should I just look for some new Shimano downtube shifters to mount
 onto the existing pods?

 I haven't used this shifter in a while because I was going to ride a
 1000K in October and discovered last minute that I was not able to get
 into the two highest gears, so I threw a Microshift bar end in there
 that I had sitting around.  But I would like to be able to use the
 Shimano shifter, if not in my Riv, then maybe somewhere else where I
 wouldn't sweat on it so much.

 In case you were wondering...the Microshift has worked great but it's
 not quite as precise as the Shimano, i.e., there is more slop in each
 gear detent.  Sometimes you have to lightly press down on the lever to
 quiet the drivetrain.  Not so much pressure that you shift into the
 next gear up, just enough so it sits against the detent.



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[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Kieran J
Promenderandonneurs (or Prandos, if you wish)

KJ


On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 12:54:12 PM UTC-5, John Phillips wrote:

 The name needs some snappy alliteration and/or assonance like gravel 
 grinder if it's going to stick.

 My vote goes for Keith's idea: Couch Rocket or maybe Retro Couch 
 Rocket.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike

2015-01-30 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I got my son this 24 Diamondback bike.  They also sell it built up at REI.
I got my daughter a 20 diamondback, but it's a mountain bike.  Easy to put
together--install quill stem, brakes, handlebars and pedals--everything
else is pretty ready to go.  Both bikes required a couple of half turns
with a spoke wrench to tighten a slightly loose spoke.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FC1TMSI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8psc=1
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Re: [RBW] Fixing gummed-up 9 speed Shimano bar-ends? possible?

2015-01-30 Thread Jim Bronson
No, I'm not sure, because the LBS messed with it before I took them
the Microshift to resolve the problem.  They just told me at the time
that they weren't able to clean it out.

They have had a couple of key employees depart though and the new ones
are not as good.  Although they were talking about getting one of
those Ultrasonic parts cleaners.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are you sure the square thingy is aligned properly? If it's not, that would
 give you the same problem.

 On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 8:40:23 PM UTC+2, Tim Gavin wrote:

 Maybe try an ultrasonic parts washer.  The LBS I work at has one, call
 around?

 I don't know if ultrasonic is ok for the plastic innards.  I do know that
 it will take the logos off aluminum parts.

 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK, I sweat a lot when it's hot and I live in Austin, Texas so it gets
 really hot.  Got a bar end that's gummed up with sweat by-products.

 Is there any way to disassemble the indexing mechanism?  I can only
 use 7 gears and then it won't go any further.  I've had it soaking in
 a bucket of paint thinner for a couple of days hoping that whatever
 grime was in there would be loosened up, but so far no luck.  FWIW, I
 don't get a full range of motion when I switch it to friction, either.

 Or should I just look for some new Shimano downtube shifters to mount
 onto the existing pods?

 I haven't used this shifter in a while because I was going to ride a
 1000K in October and discovered last minute that I was not able to get
 into the two highest gears, so I threw a Microshift bar end in there
 that I had sitting around.  But I would like to be able to use the
 Shimano shifter, if not in my Riv, then maybe somewhere else where I
 wouldn't sweat on it so much.

 In case you were wondering...the Microshift has worked great but it's
 not quite as precise as the Shimano, i.e., there is more slop in each
 gear detent.  Sometimes you have to lightly press down on the lever to
 quiet the drivetrain.  Not so much pressure that you shift into the
 next gear up, just enough so it sits against the detent.



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[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread John Phillips
The name needs some snappy alliteration and/or assonance like gravel 
grinder if it's going to stick.

My vote goes for Keith's idea: Couch Rocket or maybe Retro Couch Rocket.

John

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Re: [RBW] Atlantis + Nitto M12 FR = ???

2015-01-30 Thread Tim Gavin
I love the M12, it fit my KOM fork perfectly with very little bending.  If
you're worried about bending at the weld points, then maybe use clamps or a
vise to isolate the areas you're bending.

Also, I'd bend each arm in one direction only.  Bend the top fork arm (that
goes to the brake bolt hole) for the up and down adjustment, and bend the
canti bolt arms outward for the lateral fit.

I used the double-ended canti bolts that Riv sells
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/rh2.htm, but the M12 I bought
http://www.modernbike.com/nitto-m12-front-rack came with them included
(and was only $82 with free shipping).

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Bunch,

 Trying to fit a Nitto M12 (attaches to canti bosses) onto a 56 Atlantis.
 Having trouble bending the rack to get the right fit.  Feeling like I'm
 bending it against the welds in ways and with force that might lead to
 damage/breakage.

 Any hints to get the rack to fit?  Am I being too timid about those welds?
 Just go for it with a bit more muscle?

 Thanks,

 Aaron Rack-Flummoxed Young
 The Dalles, OR

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[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Kieran J
Promenaderrandonneurs (or, 'Prandos' if you wish).

KJ


On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 2:57:42 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Till wrote:

 Some musings and hopefully the first of a few posts on the subject:


 http://handlebarchronicles.blogspot.com/2015/01/high-performance-upright-towards-new.html

 Further thought for this list: my thinking about this category is directly 
 informed, if not wholly made possible, by Grant and Rivendell's work.  I 
 want to take what they've done and talk about it more broadly as a 
 category, as I believe there are many of us love this type of bike, 
 Rivendell devotees or no.  I hope to devote a future post to the 
 intellectual antecedents of my category, including Grant but also Mike 
 Flanigan/ANT, old Raleighs, early MTB's, etc. 

 Your thoughts and comments much appreciated.  

 -jeremy


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Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-30 Thread Jim Bronson
Solid advice from Shoji and I think applicable to many tires, not just
the Big Bens.  My LoupLoups get a bit squirrely on high speed
descending turns when pressure gets below 55 or so.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Shoji Takahashi
shoji.takaha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi DS,
 I have 26 Big Bens on my Hunqapillar. I find the cornering to-be squirrely
 on roads if the tire pressure is too low (and cornering speeds are somewhat
 high). Easily resolved by raising the pressure a bit. If you're going on a
 mixed terrain ride, I'd say pump 'em up a little more.
 Shoji


 On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 5:29:09 PM UTC-5, DS wrote:

 Does anyone notice or have any input on handling with a Big Ben or balloon
 type tire? Especially on cornering on fast descents?

 Reason I ask is, I just bought some Big Bens (26 x 2.15) for my
 Hunqapillar for mixed ride use. Took them out for a first ride a few weeks
 ago, had a bad crash while on a somewhat but not terribly fast descent on
 pavement, turning into a curve, though I'm 95% sure it was due to a way
 under inflated tire (I had a flat about 20 minutes before that on the trails
 and replaced tube but feel I did not inflate enough for the ride home).

 Today, went out with properly-ish inflated tires (34 front, 40 psi rear),
 but still felt like the bike was squirrely on turns and it felt like the
 bike was going to slide out underneath me on some moderate turns, so I took
 them pretty slow. But, it was also my first ride back since the crash, so
 maybe that had something else to do with it. Anyone else have any comments
 on the handling of these? Am I imagining things and being overly sensitive
 due to the crash and this is user error?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-30 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
This is a bit of a quandary for me. I like high-volume (40mm+) tires as 
they provide a smoother ride at low pressure. But that low pressure in turn 
makes cornering unpleasant (at least for me). I dislike that squishy 
transition feeling that happens with low pressure at high speed turns. 

The obvious answer is to inflate them to a higher pressure, but that 
defeats the advantages of the high volume/low pressure tire. If I'm going 
to do that, I might as well stick w/ 33mm tires. 

Is this just me?


On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 11:21:56 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:

 Solid advice from Shoji and I think applicable to many tires, not just 
 the Big Bens.  My LoupLoups get a bit squirrely on high speed 
 descending turns when pressure gets below 55 or so. 

 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Shoji Takahashi 
 shoji.t...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: 
  Hi DS, 
  I have 26 Big Bens on my Hunqapillar. I find the cornering to-be 
 squirrely 
  on roads if the tire pressure is too low (and cornering speeds are 
 somewhat 
  high). Easily resolved by raising the pressure a bit. If you're going on 
 a 
  mixed terrain ride, I'd say pump 'em up a little more. 
  Shoji 
  
  
  On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 5:29:09 PM UTC-5, DS wrote: 
  
  Does anyone notice or have any input on handling with a Big Ben or 
 balloon 
  type tire? Especially on cornering on fast descents? 
  
  Reason I ask is, I just bought some Big Bens (26 x 2.15) for my 
  Hunqapillar for mixed ride use. Took them out for a first ride a few 
 weeks 
  ago, had a bad crash while on a somewhat but not terribly fast descent 
 on 
  pavement, turning into a curve, though I'm 95% sure it was due to a way 
  under inflated tire (I had a flat about 20 minutes before that on the 
 trails 
  and replaced tube but feel I did not inflate enough for the ride home). 
  
  Today, went out with properly-ish inflated tires (34 front, 40 psi 
 rear), 
  but still felt like the bike was squirrely on turns and it felt like 
 the 
  bike was going to slide out underneath me on some moderate turns, so I 
 took 
  them pretty slow. But, it was also my first ride back since the crash, 
 so 
  maybe that had something else to do with it. Anyone else have any 
 comments 
  on the handling of these? Am I imagining things and being overly 
 sensitive 
  due to the crash and this is user error? 
  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Question on Big Ben handling

2015-01-30 Thread Shoji Takahashi
Hey DS,
IIRC, I ran mine ~20-35 psi. I'm about 155#, bike weighs ???, 
racks+bags+stuff ???, sometimes kid on a Burley Piccolo (whose weight keeps 
going higher) ... and the weight distribution changes for all those set ups.

TBH: I just pinch 'em now to make sure there seems to-be enough. There are 
a lot of potholes on my commute, and I prefer to protect the rim and 
prevent pinch flats than optimize for speed+comfort. But it still runs 
great! If the tires seem too hard (e.g., bouncing over small roots or 
rocks), then I'll bleed the air a bit. You will be able to tell when the 
pressure is too high; and the squirreley feel means it's too low.

I know this isn't very helpful information. But I think it is useful.

Get out and ride... carefully at first, and then you'll get a sense of what 
works for your setup, road/trail conditions, etc. Maybe risk a pinch flat 
to see how low to go. (Been there, done that. Sucks to have to change a 
flat on a commute.)

(Sorry if it sounds snarky-- that's not my intent.)

Enjoy the experience!
Shoji
 

On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 2:15:16 PM UTC-5, DS wrote:

 Shoji and Hugh - what psi do you run at typically? understood that weigh 
 of rider plus racks and bags and stuff can play into that. Thanks for the 
 feedback though. Taking it out this weekend on an all pavement ride and 
 will run at higher psi and be cautious on downhill turns. I also lowered my 
 handlebars some which was also recommended. 

 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 I concur with Shoji, that's been my experience thus far. A great rolling 
 tire nonetheless.

 Cheers,

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep 
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/



 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:16 AM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.t...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Hi DS,
 I have 26 Big Bens on my Hunqapillar. I find the cornering to-be 
 squirrely on roads if the tire pressure is too low (and cornering speeds 
 are somewhat high). Easily resolved by raising the pressure a bit. If 
 you're going on a mixed terrain ride, I'd say pump 'em up a little more.
 Shoji


 On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 5:29:09 PM UTC-5, DS wrote:

 Does anyone notice or have any input on handling with a Big Ben or 
 balloon type tire? Especially on cornering on fast descents?

 Reason I ask is, I just bought some Big Bens (26 x 2.15) for my 
 Hunqapillar for mixed ride use. Took them out for a first ride a few weeks 
 ago, had a bad crash while on a somewhat but not terribly fast descent on 
 pavement, turning into a curve, though I'm 95% sure it was due to a way 
 under inflated tire (I had a flat about 20 minutes before that on the 
 trails and replaced tube but feel I did not inflate enough for the ride 
 home). 

 Today, went out with properly-ish inflated tires (34 front, 40 psi 
 rear), but still felt like the bike was squirrely on turns and it felt 
 like 
 the bike was going to slide out underneath me on some moderate turns, so I 
 took them pretty slow. But, it was also my first ride back since the 
 crash, 
 so maybe that had something else to do with it. Anyone else have any 
 comments on the handling of these? Am I imagining things and being overly 
 sensitive due to the crash and this is user error?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread stonehog
Sport Transport!

Brian

On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 9:57:35 AM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote:

 We of the Upright Cyclists Brigade are mildly amused.

 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:54 AM, John Phillips jphil...@icloud.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 The name needs some snappy alliteration and/or assonance like gravel 
 grinder if it's going to stick.

 My vote goes for Keith's idea: Couch Rocket or maybe Retro Couch 
 Rocket.

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[RBW] Kids' Riv-esque Bike

2015-01-30 Thread Dan A
My 7 year old has the 20 inch Specialized hot rock without suspension. It is a 
pretty nice bike. It is lighter than a lot of the similar bikes and one of the 
few kids bikes you can get without suspension. Another option to check out is 
Islabikes. 

Dan Abelson 

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RE: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Although Mike’s bikes, in my experience, are mostly quite sprightly – even 
sporty.

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
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No no no... Not Sport, Transport... Mike Flanigan's ANT mantra.



On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 1:00:55 PM UTC-5, stonehog wrote:
Sport Transport!

Brian

On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 9:57:35 AM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote:
We of the Upright Cyclists Brigade are mildly amused.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 9:54 AM, John Phillips 
jphil...@icloud.commailto:jphil...@icloud.com wrote:
The name needs some snappy alliteration and/or assonance like gravel grinder 
if it's going to stick.

My vote goes for Keith's idea: Couch Rocket or maybe Retro Couch Rocket.

John
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Re: [RBW] Re: How have your Rivendells held up on salty winter roads?

2015-01-30 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm riding my Hilsen for the third winter here in CT, and one KC winter before 
that. I love the ride of this bike and that's why I bought it, so why ride 
anything else? I sweat profusely and honestly think that is harder on the bike 
than winter. I tend to use up everything I own (including body parts, as my 
artificial knees and many other scars proves) so I just figure if riding in 
winter makes the bike last 22 instead of 25 years I'll have to get a new one a 
little sooner. Grant's method of bike maintenance in Just Ride was something 
like once a year I knock off the big chunks of grime was music to my ears! I 
clean my bike more frequently than that but I always feel like it's time I 
could have been riding. So, yeah, I go out on salted roads without a thought. 
But watch out for the icy patches! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike

2015-01-30 Thread Corwin
The Bantam is a great bike. And Schwinns are indestructible. Great for 
kids. I have a red girl's Bantam I bought used for $65 in 1991. All four of 
my kids (including my son) learned to ride on that bike. It survived the 
fire. I have been told in no uncertain terms that I am not allowed to sell 
it or give it away.

Namaste,


Corwin

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 If you don't need gears, a vintage Schwinn Bantam is a great bike: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4338741715
 Could even build it up w/ a 3 speed if so inclined. 



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 I wouldn't worry much about bar height if you're moving to a 20 bike. My 
 90th% son, at just over 7, has a lot of room to grow before his saddle is 
 above the bars when I got him this 20 Specialized (picture a ways down on 
 this post):

 http://www.bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2014/01/bike-and-hatchet-update.html

 (and please excuse my horrible mixing of past and present tense in the 
 above sentence).

 Eric
 Dublin, OH

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 Ok, this sounds doable, all, but is there a Trek mtn bike that is made 
 small enough for a 6 year old? Aren't they adult bikes?

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[RBW] Boeshield and resistance?

2015-01-30 Thread lungimsam
I love Boeshield because it burns so clean.

But sometimes I feel like it gums up the works and adds noticeable resistance 
to the drivetrain.
I have felt in the past that it does this after fresh application. But, as with 
all things bike, there are so many factors that determine how you feel on a 
bike on a given day it's hard to say for sure.

However, last night I put a heaping helpin' of it on my chain to help protect 
against the road salts out these days and for the ride I went on today.. It was 
an all out overdose for sure. The liquid version. I figure it dries as a wax 
and sheds so let me get alot on there to make as big a barrier as possible 
against the salts.

Anyway, on today's ride I felt like I was pedalling through concrete, even on 
flats.
I stopped twice to be sure a brake pad wasn't rubbing. Nothing rubbing.

Anyone noticed this with their use of Boeshield.
Again, it's hard to say what makes you feel sluggish on a given day. But this 
made my usual sluggish look sloth like. It was crazy today. I can't blame the 
Boeshield with certainty. But I had good energy. Not sure what's going on. 
Perhaps I'll try something else and see if the concrete effect goes away.
Maybe road salts caked on tires slows you down?

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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto, Schwalbe, Shimano, Mavic, MKS, Modolo more.

2015-01-30 Thread Patrick Shea
...and the 28c Marathons if possible.

Cheers,
Patrick, Again

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Patrick Shea helpr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Still have the Bosco bars? If so, I'll take 'em.

 Cheers,
 Patrick

 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Antonioni Vicente 
 likewisewildf...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK, now it's serious.  New stuff, lower prices on stuff you may have seen
 posted before  just waaay more stuff.

 cockpit
 Nitto Technomic Standard 26.0, 130mm extension.  Good condition.  $25
 Nitto Dirt Drop 8.  Very good condition.  $43
 Nitto Dirt Drop 10.  Very good condition.  $43
 Bridgestone XO-2 stock quill stem, black.  Very good condition.  $5
 Tange 1 threaded headset, silver.  Unsure of model but looks BMX-y.
 Used but good condition.  $5
 Nitto Noodle 48's.  Gunk from tape and scuffs only on clamp area.
 Nitto/dragon logo flawless.  $50
 Nitto Bosco 55cm CroMo.  Very good condition.  $45
 Modolo Brevettato 44cm E-2091 26.0.  Scuffed but good condition
 otherwise.  $18
 SR bullmoose-esque: straight bar with double clamp stem, 21.1 quill, 25.4
 clamp.  Good condition.  $10

 brake
 Mafac Racers, front  rear, complete with Mafac-branded front  rear
 cable hangers.  Good condition.  $45
 Shimano Tiagra road brake levers, silver w/ black hoods.  Very good
 condition.  $38
 Shimano 105 road brake levers, silver w/ black hoods.  Good condition.
  $18

 drive/shift
 Shimano 105 Golden Arrow derailleur set.  Front is marked FD-A105, rear
 is short cage  unmarked.  $15
 Shimano mountain-LX front  rear derailleurs.  FD-M542  RD-M542.  Very
 good condition.  $35
 Shimano BB-UN55 68 x 127.  Square taper.  Installed but never ridden.  $10
 MKS Sylvan track pedals.  Brand new.  $14
 Shimano 6 speed freewheel, mf-z012 13-16-19-23-28-34.  Good condition.  $7
 Shimano cassette, 8 speed, 12-23.  Very good condition.  $10
 Shimano Ultegra bar end shifters, 8 speed.  A few scuffs on outside of
 pod mounts but otherwise very good condition.  $60

 tires/wheels
 Schwalbe Smart Sams 26 x 2.1, folding bead.  Brand new.  $50/pair
 Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 35, folding bead. 2K.  $75/pair
 Schwalbe Marathon 700 x 28.  Very good condition.  $45/pair
 Resist Nomad 700 x 45, Black/tan sidewall.  Good condition.  $22/pair
 Specialized All Condition 700 X 23.  Good condition.  $7
 Specialized All Condition 700 X 25.  Good condition.  $7
 Specialized Roubaix 700 X 23/25, folding bead.  Good condition.  $16/pair
 Panaracer 700 X 25 TServ for Messenger.  Good condition.  $7
 700c wheelset, Mavic MA 40 grey anodized.  Front hub: shimano 600
 (hb-6207), rear hub sealed Performance.  Freewheel only.  Wheels spin
 smoothly and are true.  A very pretty road wheelset.  Good condition.  $50

 gear
 Mammut Crater Goretex rain jacket, black.  Large.  New with Tags.  $250
  (retails at $379)
 Pearl Izumi Shoe Covers Pro WXB.  X-Large.  Never used.  $30
 Sac La Fuma vintage french hiking pack.  Pictures  details:
 http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/spo/4789261024.html  $50

 tools/misc
 Spin Doctor cone wrench set 13-19mm.  Light use.  $15/set
 Problem Solvers Backstop, black 1 1/4 i.d. New.  $5
 Shimano Dura Ace track cog lock ring, NJS stamped.  $5


 Trade interested icluding but not limited to Nitto Jitensha
 bars, aluminum heat treated Albatross, King Iris cages, Park Truing stand 2
 or 2.2, a 64cm-67cm steel lugged road frame and fork, Nitto Tallux 6, 7
 /or 11, Schmidt Edulux II  SON hub, HA Rack Sackville Bag (tan),
 Carradice Bagman support, 700c Compass tires.

 the 411/fine print
 Prices do not include shipping.  Open to reasonable offers.  Discounts
 for multiple items.  Paypal preferred.  Currently too lazy to erect a
 proper flickr monument to these goods, so pics upon request, via email or
 text (72fore 7fiiive7 935ate  lemme know you're a RBW/BOB).  Apologies for
 the redundancy in cross-posts to the beloved sister lists. A lot of this
 stuff is posted to Portland Oregon Craigslist, as well.  Feel obliged to
 come check the stuff out in person- I'm in Northeast Portland, Oregon.

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[RBW] FS: framesets...WTT/WTB: 650b wheelset

2015-01-30 Thread Patrick Shea
Ok, I'm not giving up cycling but I am facing up to the fact I cannot do my
real long road rides these days. So, my now-abandoned projects need a
change of address.

56cm Rivendell road frameset. Waterford built, one of the early ones. No
headtube extension but insane (in a good way) lug work and old style
seatpost lug. Campy bolt style. EVEREST stamped on bb shell. NO PAINT!!!
Fork is original silver, tho. Two repairs done, both of which make the
frame a bit stronger while still maintaining great looks. This frame has
done it all: fixed gear singletrack, triple, double, Paris-Brest-Dreux,
commuting. Beausage for sure. $600 plus shipping.

55cm Serotta Colorado II sunburst frame/fork, CK hs, Shimano bb. A few tiny
scratches from wheels, etc., otherwise mighty fine condition. $450 plus
shipping.

55cm LeMond ti frame, either Ouzo carbon fork or steel Surly one (or both.)
I stripped off the lame red paint (covered half the frame) so it's that
dull ti look. FSA headset. No dings, probably made by Litespeed. $400 plus
shipping.


WTT/WTB: 650b wheelset for 26 Mavic/XTR wheelset, black rim, silver 32
spokes. handbuilt by Studio Velo in Mill Valley. Low miles, strong wheels.

I am 5'8' and the above frames are all a nice fit for me, the Riv
especially so. Pics upon request.

Cheers,
Patrick

PS- Bay Area pick-up/delivery would be nice but I can pack 'em up with care.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fixing gummed-up 9 speed Shimano bar-ends? possible?

2015-01-30 Thread Jim Bronson
I've hosed it down with WD already and it's sitting in a bucket of
paint thinner now.  I don't have access to a parts washer, but I
assume that it would circulate better than my bucket of paint thinner.

If the innards are plastic that should bode well to cleaning it up, I
would think.  But I guess we'll see.

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 Remove them from the bike and hose them down with WD-40 or put in a parts
 washer if you have one.
 I had tremendous good results with doing that on Ultegra brifters. Simpler
 bar-ends should clean up great!


 On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 10:18:38 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:

 OK, I sweat a lot when it's hot and I live in Austin, Texas so it gets
 really hot.  Got a bar end that's gummed up with sweat by-products.

 Is there any way to disassemble the indexing mechanism?  I can only
 use 7 gears and then it won't go any further.  I've had it soaking in
 a bucket of paint thinner for a couple of days hoping that whatever
 grime was in there would be loosened up, but so far no luck.  FWIW, I
 don't get a full range of motion when I switch it to friction, either.

 Or should I just look for some new Shimano downtube shifters to mount
 onto the existing pods?

 I haven't used this shifter in a while because I was going to ride a
 1000K in October and discovered last minute that I was not able to get
 into the two highest gears, so I threw a Microshift bar end in there
 that I had sitting around.  But I would like to be able to use the
 Shimano shifter, if not in my Riv, then maybe somewhere else where I
 wouldn't sweat on it so much.

 In case you were wondering...the Microshift has worked great but it's
 not quite as precise as the Shimano, i.e., there is more slop in each
 gear detent.  Sometimes you have to lightly press down on the lever to
 quiet the drivetrain.  Not so much pressure that you shift into the
 next gear up, just enough so it sits against the detent.



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Re: [RBW] Fixing gummed-up 9 speed Shimano bar-ends? possible?

2015-01-30 Thread Neil
Yep, this sounds like it might be mechanical, especially if it is a 'hard 
stop' at the 7th cog.

The little ear thingys need to be aligned to work properly. AND, to 
compound matters, if you have put it back together incorrectly and shifted 
it, then took it back apart, the interior indexing system might be 
mis-aligned and need correction.

This is all difficult to explain in a forum post, but this exact thing 
happened to my bro while we were on a multi-day tour in Oregon last year. 
Had to take the whole thing apart, stare at it for awhile, have a beer, and 
then had the 'aha!' moment. Once corrected, it shifted perfectly.

On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 10:43:36 AM UTC-8, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:

 Are you sure the square thingy is aligned properly? If it's not, that 
 would give you the same problem.

 On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 8:40:23 PM UTC+2, Tim Gavin wrote:

 Maybe try an ultrasonic parts washer.  The LBS I work at has one, call 
 around?

 I don't know if ultrasonic is ok for the plastic innards.  I do know that 
 it will take the logos off aluminum parts.

 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK, I sweat a lot when it's hot and I live in Austin, Texas so it gets
 really hot.  Got a bar end that's gummed up with sweat by-products.

 Is there any way to disassemble the indexing mechanism?  I can only
 use 7 gears and then it won't go any further.  I've had it soaking in
 a bucket of paint thinner for a couple of days hoping that whatever
 grime was in there would be loosened up, but so far no luck.  FWIW, I
 don't get a full range of motion when I switch it to friction, either.

 Or should I just look for some new Shimano downtube shifters to mount
 onto the existing pods?

 I haven't used this shifter in a while because I was going to ride a
 1000K in October and discovered last minute that I was not able to get
 into the two highest gears, so I threw a Microshift bar end in there
 that I had sitting around.  But I would like to be able to use the
 Shimano shifter, if not in my Riv, then maybe somewhere else where I
 wouldn't sweat on it so much.

 In case you were wondering...the Microshift has worked great but it's
 not quite as precise as the Shimano, i.e., there is more slop in each
 gear detent.  Sometimes you have to lightly press down on the lever to
 quiet the drivetrain.  Not so much pressure that you shift into the
 next gear up, just enough so it sits against the detent.



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[RBW] Longshot Trade: my Big Wald Basket for your Small

2015-01-30 Thread Greg J
I have the big Wald basket that Riv sells (used but not abused).  I'd like to 
try the small one. Anyone thinking the reverse?  I'm in the SF Bay Area -- 
local trade preferred, as shipping may be prohibitive.  

Thanks, Greg

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[RBW] Re: FS Thread Part 2

2015-01-30 Thread 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch
Zach, I sent you a private message saying that I would like to purchase the 
windshirt.  Hope it made its way to you.

Thanks

Peter

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Re: [RBW] FS: framesets...WTT/WTB: 650b wheelset

2015-01-30 Thread Eric Norris
PBD? Love it!

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 On Jan 30, 2015, at 11:05 AM, Patrick Shea helpr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Paris-Brest-Dreu

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[RBW] Re: How have your Rivendells held up on salty winter roads?

2015-01-30 Thread lungimsam
Thanks for the input everyone.
I took it out today for a spin, and my Hetres looked like powdered donuts 
at times.
When I got home, I poured a few big dishes of water on the wheels and DT 
and fenders, lubed chain, cables, and pivot points, and it looks great.
 I keep it in the garage. Nothing freezing in there last I checked. Got the 
salt off pretty good.

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Re: [RBW] Boeshield and resistance?

2015-01-30 Thread Eric Norris
Boeshield makes my bikes feel faster. Could something else have been off today? 
Touch of the flu? Too many carbs?

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 On Jan 30, 2015, at 11:29 AM, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I love Boeshield because it burns so clean.
 
 But sometimes I feel like it gums up the works and adds noticeable resistance 
 to the drivetrain.
 I have felt in the past that it does this after fresh application. But, as 
 with all things bike, there are so many factors that determine how you feel 
 on a bike on a given day it's hard to say for sure.
 
 However, last night I put a heaping helpin' of it on my chain to help protect 
 against the road salts out these days and for the ride I went on today.. It 
 was an all out overdose for sure. The liquid version. I figure it dries as a 
 wax and sheds so let me get alot on there to make as big a barrier as 
 possible against the salts.
 
 Anyway, on today's ride I felt like I was pedalling through concrete, even on 
 flats.
 I stopped twice to be sure a brake pad wasn't rubbing. Nothing rubbing.
 
 Anyone noticed this with their use of Boeshield.
 Again, it's hard to say what makes you feel sluggish on a given day. But this 
 made my usual sluggish look sloth like. It was crazy today. I can't blame the 
 Boeshield with certainty. But I had good energy. Not sure what's going on. 
 Perhaps I'll try something else and see if the concrete effect goes away.
 Maybe road salts caked on tires slows you down?
 
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[RBW] FS: framesets...WTT/WTB: 650b wheelset

2015-01-30 Thread Justin August
Hey Patrick
I meant to tell you on Thursday - can I see the Riv Road and the Ti frames?

-J

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis + Nitto M12 FR = ???

2015-01-30 Thread Dave Johnston


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wuultrgGbD0/VMxO3B4yrNI/AIQ/34BtYoxrcNg/s1600/F%2BrackJPG.jpg
Adding some spacers at either the canti studs or the crown hole sometimes 
helps level the rack. I used a pair of the concave/convex washers from 
threaded v-brake canti pads, as those allow some misalignment between rack 
and canti stud. 

On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 1:05:31 PM UTC-5, A. L Young wrote:

 Hey Bunch,

 Trying to fit a Nitto M12 (attaches to canti bosses) onto a 56 Atlantis.  
 Having trouble bending the rack to get the right fit.  Feeling like I'm 
 bending it against the welds in ways and with force that might lead to 
 damage/breakage.  

 Any hints to get the rack to fit?  Am I being too timid about those welds? 
 Just go for it with a bit more muscle?

 Thanks,

 Aaron Rack-Flummoxed Young
 The Dalles, OR


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[RBW] Re: Atlantis + Nitto M12 FR = ???

2015-01-30 Thread lungimsam
Wow. Canti bikes have some pretty racks.
What's the equivalent trade of a Blue Sam sidepull frame for an RBW canti 
frame? Orange Sam?

No csnti Bleriots right?

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[RBW] Re: How have your Rivendells held up on salty winter roads?

2015-01-30 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Anton,

I believe the problem with bringing the bike indoors versus keeping in a 
garage or other non-insulated structure is that transitioning between warm 
and cold environments promotes condensation inside the frame.

Matt

On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 7:31:10 AM UTC-8, Anton Tutter wrote:

 Exactly my feelings.  Also, as I understand it, there is some additional 
 debate regarding whether bringing your bike indoors to clean is better than 
 just leaving it out in the cold all winter-- the idea being that rust is 
 inhibited by cold temps. I don't know if this idea has any merit or not. 
 But like KJ, I'm of the mind that it's just better to ride a beater that 
 you don't care about for salt duty, and keep the 'bikes you love' for the 
 three salt-free seasons.

 Anton





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[RBW] Re: How have your Rivendells held up on salty winter roads?

2015-01-30 Thread ascpgh
'round here, with the same conditions, I ride most on my commuter for the 
obvious reasons. I have to add that if you have the ability to rinse off 
somewhere indoors, like a basement floor drain, you can use a pump-up 
garden sprayer like an RL from Home Depot to spray some water and a trigger 
bottle for your favorite cleanser. I find the concern for corrosive effects 
are greater for component fasteners than the frame itself, presuming you've 
Framesaver-ed or similarly treated the insides.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 9:33:04 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

 There is a 200k on March 5th I'd like to attempt. My only shot at training 
 is during the next 5 weeks, and the roads here in Maryland are trashed with 
 salt from the mild snows we have been getting, with more to come next week.
 Looks like no salt free roads for the next 10 days with the forecast 
 showing sporadic snows three times a week or so until then.

 So how have your bikes fared in the heavy salt. I have full coverage 
 fenders, so maybe that would help a lot.


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[RBW] Re: How have your Rivendells held up on salty winter roads?

2015-01-30 Thread Kainalu
I basically filled my Hillborne with framesaver, looked like a frothy pint 
of stout when I was through with it. Ride it everyday in salt soaked NYC 
and I don't have any issues yet. Recently picked up a Quickbeam that had 
some nasty corrosion on the aluminum bits, as I nervously disassembled it 
fearing the worst, I was happily surprised to find the frame's insides 
looked beautiful. I framesavered the hell out of that one too, after Jared 
of Riv assured me a frame can't be savered or savored too much. Salt to 
taste, it's gonna be alright.
-Kai


On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 9:10:08 AM UTC-5, ascpgh wrote:

 'round here, with the same conditions, I ride most on my commuter for the 
 obvious reasons. I have to add that if you have the ability to rinse off 
 somewhere indoors, like a basement floor drain, you can use a pump-up 
 garden sprayer like an RL from Home Depot to spray some water and a trigger 
 bottle for your favorite cleanser. I find the concern for corrosive effects 
 are greater for component fasteners than the frame itself, presuming you've 
 Framesaver-ed or similarly treated the insides.

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh

 On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 9:33:04 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

 There is a 200k on March 5th I'd like to attempt. My only shot at 
 training is during the next 5 weeks, and the roads here in Maryland are 
 trashed with salt from the mild snows we have been getting, with more to 
 come next week.
 Looks like no salt free roads for the next 10 days with the forecast 
 showing sporadic snows three times a week or so until then.

 So how have your bikes fared in the heavy salt. I have full coverage 
 fenders, so maybe that would help a lot.



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[RBW] Re: How have your Rivendells held up on salty winter roads?

2015-01-30 Thread Anton Tutter
A frame-savered frame will be fine. However salty sandy slush will get 
everywhere and quickly conspire to destroy bottom brackets, hub bearings and 
chains, as well as non-stainless steel fasteners like nuts and bolts. I would 
only ever consider using cheap replaceable components in a winter 
commuter/trainer bike. 

Anton, who is typing this as he rides the bus to work post-Juno. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike

2015-01-30 Thread Leslie
Slam that seatpost down, drop the stem and rotate the bars back a bit, and 
it's a kids 29'er!  

-L


On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 10:57:52 PM UTC-5, mike goldman wrote:

 i have this Trek 220 24 wheel bike for sale. $120 plus shipping 

 mike goldman 
 warwick,r.i. 
  
 How Old Men Tighten Skin 
 63 Year Old Man Shares DIY Skin Tightening Method You Can Do From Home 
 http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/54cb0131b6d0a1310a25st01duc

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Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike

2015-01-30 Thread Jim Bronson
Nice mini--albas on that blue Novara

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:15 PM, Joe Bunik jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Inadvertently, both my kids wound up with older, hand-me-down neighborhood
 Novara (REI house brand) frames, Taiwanese-made with likely at least
 10 and 20-years on each.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/15791036815/

 As kid bikes go, these get a better-than-passing grade in my book -
 well made, durable and not total hogs by any measure. I rehabbed the
 20-inch junior mountain bike w/ some small uprights and newer
 take-off brakes and shifters. Making sure that braking and shifting
 are as simple and effective as possible is a must as a kid moves
 beyond the venerable coaster.

 =- Joe Bunik
 Walnut Creek, CA

 On 1/29/15, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 24 is  a great wheel size. I rushed my kids a bit to get them onto it, but
 left them in it a while before moving to 26. It really rolls over bumps
 and curbs a lot better than 20. Proportionately like a 29er to them as
 Leslie mentioned!

 Now scouring CL to find the perfect used 27.5 bike for them! Everything is
 really high end, or really low end, hard to find the sweet spot with that
 size.

 On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Leah Peterson jonasandle...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I wish! He's much too small for the 24, I'm afraid. But thank you,
 really!

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:56 PM, mikel66...@juno.com
  mikel66...@juno.com
 wrote:
 
  i have this Trek 220 24 wheel bike for sale. $120 plus shipping
 
  mike goldman
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  63 Year Old Man Shares DIY Skin Tightening Method You Can Do From Home
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[RBW] How have your Rivendells held up on salty winter roads?

2015-01-30 Thread Marc Irwin
I ride my Hunq nearly everyday in west Michigan. I just wipe the slop off.  If 
the drive train gets really wet, I'll spray it down with WD 40 before I lube 
the chain.  In the spring,I clean out the bottom bracket shell and retreat it 
for safety's sake.

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[RBW] Re: Well Known Tool Co. Founder Dies

2015-01-30 Thread Peter Adler
It's curious. I've spent the past two weeks frantically hunting for my Park 
FR-4 freewheel remover (splined Regina, splined Atom), which none of the 
LBSes in my bike retailer-saturated town carry. It just reappeared about 18 
inches from my computer - and then I saw the news...

Peter Adler
Berkeley, CA

On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 10:00:48 AM UTC-8, islaysteve wrote:

 Wow, What an interesting story, and life.  I'll be a little more 
 reflective the next time I use my Park stand and other tools.  May he rest 
 in peace, and condolences to his family. 
 Steve 


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[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch
This morning I was thinking about bikes while in the shower and Casual 
Sport popped into  my mind.  It's still a bit of an oxymoron but it rolls 
off the tongue quite easily and has some continuity with the Sport Tourer 
category of years gone by. 

 Hopefully I didn't unconsciously pick that up from someone who's already 
posted it here or over at the I-BOB  list.  



On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 1:57:42 PM UTC-6, Jeremy Till wrote:

 Some musings and hopefully the first of a few posts on the subject:


 http://handlebarchronicles.blogspot.com/2015/01/high-performance-upright-towards-new.html

 Further thought for this list: my thinking about this category is directly 
 informed, if not wholly made possible, by Grant and Rivendell's work.  I 
 want to take what they've done and talk about it more broadly as a 
 category, as I believe there are many of us love this type of bike, 
 Rivendell devotees or no.  I hope to devote a future post to the 
 intellectual antecedents of my category, including Grant but also Mike 
 Flanigan/ANT, old Raleighs, early MTB's, etc. 

 Your thoughts and comments much appreciated.  

 -jeremy


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[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Bob E
I was going to suggest Sport Roadster, but then saw that Linus has a 
similar sounding Roadster Sport.

http://www.linusbike.com/products/roadster-sport?variant=100522862

On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 7:37:14 AM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote:

 SS: sensible sport 
 CS: comfort sport 


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[RBW] Re: How have your Rivendells held up on salty winter roads?

2015-01-30 Thread Matt Beebe
With fenders and an occasional rinse when it gets really sloppy, you don't 
have anything to worry about.


On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 9:33:04 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote:

 There is a 200k on March 5th I'd like to attempt. My only shot at training 
 is during the next 5 weeks, and the roads here in Maryland are trashed with 
 salt from the mild snows we have been getting, with more to come next week.
 Looks like no salt free roads for the next 10 days with the forecast 
 showing sporadic snows three times a week or so until then.

 So how have your bikes fared in the heavy salt. I have full coverage 
 fenders, so maybe that would help a lot.


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[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright

2015-01-30 Thread Anton Tutter
SS: sensible sport
CS: comfort sport

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