Re: [RBW] PBP Prep - Homer and Atlantis climbing in Eastern PA - A ride report

2015-07-22 Thread Patrick Moore
Well written. I look forward to hearing your and Eric's reports of PBP.

Curious: what sort of gearing do you use for this hilly route? What is your
cruising gear range (for flat terrain, low wind conditions)? What speed did
you average over the 128 miles?

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 An installment in Homer's preparations to go to France.
 http://eprider.blogspot.com/2015/07/hawk-mountain-200k-digging-well.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: tandem captain advice?

2015-07-22 Thread cyclotourist
Always an up-side!!!

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Eunice Chang sleepyn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I get to practice my powers of extrasensory perception, though. Humans are
 fairly predictable beings. :)

 -E.

 On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:40 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Yeah, verbal commands, maybe not so helpful...

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 wrote:
  Thank you all for your advice. It was really helpful, especially the bit
  about how the captain can hold the bike during mount/dismount.
 
  The ride is only 11 miles and with like 100 other folks so it's not
  particularly fast. You could say I would be there just to enjoy the
  ride...but it does give me a good incentive to seek other tandem
  captains in
  the future.
 
  Interesting fact: I'm deaf, so I don't rely on voice commands or hand
  signals when on a tandem - mostly I focus on the rhythm and on the
  streets
  when it comes to stops, bumps, and turns. Most of the time I actually do
  all
  the talking (maps, etc) especially if the captain is talking to someone
  else
  in the group and not paying attention to the road. :)
 
  -E.
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net
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  Also, the stoker's job on starts is to get the bicycle moving while the
  captain is clipping in.
 
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[RBW] Re: Bump: $175 shipped CONUS, or trade for disk brake dyno hub [SON 20 R dyno hub, 28 hole, $190 shipped CONUS]

2015-07-22 Thread Patrick Moore
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 About 3 K miles in a Rich-built wheel, but as smooth today as on the day
 of its birth. No blemish on the finish, either.

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[RBW] PBP Prep - Homer and Atlantis climbing in Eastern PA - A ride report

2015-07-22 Thread Iron Rider


An installment in Homer's preparations to go to France. 
http://eprider.blogspot.com/2015/07/hawk-mountain-200k-digging-well.html

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Re: [RBW] PBP Prep - Homer and Atlantis climbing in Eastern PA - A ride report

2015-07-22 Thread Brian Campbell
Great post! I am in SE PA, have an AHH and am a RUSA member, yet have never 
done a brevetI need to get out there! 

On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 12:01:53 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Well written. I look forward to hearing your and Eric's reports of PBP.

 Curious: what sort of gearing do you use for this hilly route? What is 
 your cruising gear range (for flat terrain, low wind conditions)? What 
 speed did you average over the 128 miles?

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 An installment in Homer's preparations to go to France. 
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Re: [RBW] Bosco shifter placement

2015-07-22 Thread Clayton.sf
Here some pictures of how shifters are placed. Accessible, reasonable 
protected, yet completely out of the way for all useable hand positions.

Shifter placement 1 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/19729512470/in/dateposted-public/
Shifter placement 2 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/19909972422/in/dateposted-public/

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 4:09:51 AM UTC-7, Johnny Alien wrote:

 This is exactly why I am contemplating going with the ird stem mounts. It 
 really seems like maybe that is the best place for shifters and upright 
 bars. 

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[RBW] Re: FS 59cm Bleriot

2015-07-22 Thread Rob H.
Are those Jitensha handlebars? Nice build. Very tempting...

On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 11:42:09 AM UTC-7, Dave Brandt wrote:

 I have one to many bikes for allotted bike space in my garage. I want to 
 pick up a new Atlantis or TBD Rivendell frame for touring. If my wife sees 
 me building up another bike without selling one I think I'm going to have 
 more riding time but not a wife. 

 The bike I listed on Craigslist for $1450 but I will let it go to a RBW 
 family member, that can pick it up in the SF Bay Area for $1250 firm. 
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/5135485398.html

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[RBW] Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-22 Thread Eric
Anyone have thoughts about using a Dirt Drop stem paired with some Noodle 
handlebars on an Atlantis?

Pros? Cons? 

Any insight would be greatly appreciated, thanks!!

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Re: [RBW] Bosco shifter placement

2015-07-22 Thread Johnny Alien
This is exactly why I am contemplating going with the ird stem mounts. It 
really seems like maybe that is the best place for shifters and upright bars. 

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Re: [RBW] Shameless Self Promotion from Bruce Gordon Cycles

2015-07-22 Thread Steven Sweedler
I am riding the RnR in 700 c on my All Rounder and have never felt so sure
footed on loose gravel descents and climbs. Great tires on a frame that has
exceeded my expectations. The tires measure a full 43 mm wide on the 28 mm
wide VO rims, and 40 mm on Mavic MA 40's. Steve

Plymouth, New Hampshire

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 That is the all-time best pair of diagrams to see how the tires will fit
 in a frame/fork.

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[RBW] Re: Country Bike Rally in Michigan 2015

2015-07-22 Thread Palmer
Hi Marc,
I am still in. Looking forward to it. Is anyone bringing a mountain bike to 
ride Friday?? Yankee Springs is a very nice mountain bike trail. 
Tom Palmer
Twin Lake, MI

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[RBW] FS 59cm Bleriot

2015-07-22 Thread Dave Brandt
I have one to many bikes for allotted bike space in my garage. I want to pick 
up a new Atlantis or TBD Rivendell frame for touring. If my wife sees me 
building up another bike without selling one I think I'm going to have more 
riding time but not a wife.

The bike I listed on Craigslist for $1450 but I will let it go to a RBW family 
member, that can pick it up in the SF Bay Area for $1250 firm.
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[RBW] Re: Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-22 Thread Eric
Well I'm thinking a 58cm Atlantis might just be a tad bit too long for me 
in the top tube.

But I wanted to pair it with an 8cm Dirt Drop stem, hopefully it'll work!

Thanks!!

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Re: [RBW] PBP Prep - Homer and Atlantis climbing in Eastern PA - A ride report

2015-07-22 Thread Iron Rider

 what sort of gearing do you use for this hilly route? What is your 
cruising gear range (for flat terrain, low wind conditions)? What speed did 
you average over the 128 miles?

 I have a Rive recommended Sugino triple crank 
(http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/cr1.htm)  and a shimano 770 11-34 
cassette. That is my gearing for all terrain, hilly, flat, in between. My 
average moving speed is probably 15-16 mph - lower for real climby routes. 
I am not a fast climber. Your mileage may vary. 

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[RBW] Re: Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-22 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Pros -  If you run the bars 2 or more inches above seat height, I think the 
Dirt Drops help disguise the extra long quill since it pivots approximately 
midway.  Seems to break things up ... to my eye anyway.   Put some stem 
shifters and/or a brass bell on the quill and that tall neck will virtually 
disappear.  Personally, I think the Dirt Drop looks far superior to a super 
tall Tallux with a short reach.  Another pro is the Dirt Drop is stronger 
and less expensive than the Tallux.

Keep in mind mountain handlebars and road bars have different dimensions.  
One requires 25.4 stem and the other 26.0.  Be sure to get the larger so 
that rather than having to purchase another stem to switch between the two, 
you can simply purchase a $5 shim.


On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 1:38:28 PM UTC-7, Eric wrote:

 Anyone have thoughts about using a Dirt Drop stem paired with some Noodle 
 handlebars on an Atlantis?

 Pros? Cons? 

 Any insight would be greatly appreciated, thanks!!


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[RBW] Re: Suggest a 36 hole rim that looks like the EQ21?

2015-07-22 Thread Peter Adler
The Mavic XM 719 http://www.mavic.com/rims-mtb-xm-719 is available in 36H:

http://www.mavic.com/rims-mtb-xm-719

ERTRO is 559x19, but the recommended tire width is 1.5-2.3 (58.4mm max). 
Maybe you could get away with 60mm; certainly people have successfully run 
622x60 tires on Open Pros, which are 622x19 ERTRO.

I haven't used this rim in 26, but I've used its 700c version (A719 
http://www.mavic.com/rims-road-triathlon-719) and its silver-anodized 
predecessor (T520) for several years as touring wheels. They'll take a 
fierce beating.

Peter Adler
riding with defiance across potholes, cracked asphalt and shattered beer 
bottles in
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 12:38:45 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 The Sun Ringle EQ 21 (Equalizer) doesn't come in 36 holes. Is there a 
 rim that looks very much like it?

 559X 20-23 outside
 Silver brake track, black anodized elsewhere
 36 holes
 Box section
  

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[RBW] Re: Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-22 Thread Eric
Do you have any recommendation about length of the Dirt Drop stem?

I have no clue which one to use. 

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[RBW] Re: Bike, Book, and Hatcheting

2015-07-22 Thread Liesl
I know that there are Hatcheters on this list serve because some of you 
reply to me off-list.  I wonder if folks fear that they will be called out 
for being off-topic?  Be bold, oh League of Riv Hatcheters!  It's not 
anymore off-topic for Rivsters than aeropress coffee makers or paleo diets.

Just to keep the little thread on life support...from the way back machine, 
here's one of all-time my favorite cyclofiend finds.  You've heard of 
Rivendell's Country Bike Movement? Well, I think I've taken it a step 
further, having fun Walter Mitty'ing it into a Pioneer Trekking Bike in 
preparation of a fanciful petroleum apocalypse -- 'Leading a rag-tag band 
of survivors across the desolate North American continent on his trusty 
Bridgestone RB-T' 

http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2006/cc074-iankersey0106.html

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[RBW] Re: Suggest a 36 hole rim that looks like the EQ21?

2015-07-22 Thread Patrick Moore
Peter: thanks; that's a very likely solution. I'll pursue.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Peter Adler divisi@gmail.com wrote:

 The Mavic XM 719 http://www.mavic.com/rims-mtb-xm-719 is available in
 36H:

 http://www.mavic.com/rims-mtb-xm-719

 ERTRO is 559x19, but the recommended tire width is 1.5-2.3 (58.4mm max).
 Maybe you could get away with 60mm; certainly people have successfully run
 622x60 tires on Open Pros, which are 622x19 ERTRO.

 I haven't used this rim in 26, but I've used its 700c version (A719
 http://www.mavic.com/rims-road-triathlon-719) and its silver-anodized
 predecessor (T520) for several years as touring wheels. They'll take a
 fierce beating.

 Peter Adler
 riding with defiance across potholes, cracked asphalt and shattered beer
 bottles in
 Berkeley, CA/USA

 On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 12:38:45 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 The Sun Ringle EQ 21 (Equalizer) doesn't come in 36 holes. Is there a
 rim that looks very much like it?

 559X 20-23 outside
 Silver brake track, black anodized elsewhere
 36 holes
 Box section




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[RBW] Re: Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-22 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
Not the greatest angle, but here is my Atlantis in it's previous dirty 
dropped noodleness.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/16755657141/in/datetaken/

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 Do you have any recommendation about length of the Dirt Drop stem?

 I have no clue which one to use. 


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Re: [RBW] Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-22 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
i have that combo on my 58cm atlantis. works great. lots of adjustability. i 
ride a tall stem anyways

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-22 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
the riv versions only come in 2 lenghts 100 and 80...i have the 100 

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[RBW] Re: Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-22 Thread drew
I actually quite like the look of the dirt drop with most bars other than full 
uprights. Something sorta badass about it. I have the 8cm on my hunq with 
albastache. I can't imagine going longer, but the top tube on the hunqapillar 
is quite long. Not sure how it compares to the Atlantis top tube. I think the 
8cm extends 6cm and the 10 extends 8... If that helps. 

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[RBW] Re: Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-22 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
To me the Dirt Drop is to bring you up and back. The DD I purchased was 
specifically for the mustache bar so I went 8. I would much rather err 
being a little more upright, than a little too stretched out. If you were 
trying to fit a bike slightly too small for you or with a short head tube 
then the 100 might be the thing. Your goals with the swap should point 
towards one or the other. 

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 Do you have any recommendation about length of the Dirt Drop stem?

 I have no clue which one to use. 


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[RBW] Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-22 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
My Atlantis came with that set up. I don't think there is anything wrong with 
the pairing, especially if you want the bars up and back. I think it especially 
helps if you like to use the drops without being so deep on the bike. Some 
would see it as an odd aesthetic, but I like the DD with about any bar. I'd say 
it's necessary with moustache. In the end, if it allows you get comfortable on 
the bike with a bar you prefer it's all good. 

Personally I could never get comfortable with noodles regardless of stem. My 
issues were with the shape of the bar not the position. One thing that also was 
an issue was the cable routing done by the PO. They ran the barend cables under 
the wrap along with the brake cables and made the shifting super sluggish. I 
ended up swapping to an albatross set up that I really like.

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[RBW] Re: Suggest a 36 hole rim that looks like the EQ21?

2015-07-22 Thread Jim M.
Velocity has
http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/aeroheat-559

and if you want to go pretty fat:
http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/cliff-hanger-559

jim m
wc ca

On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 12:38:45 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 The Sun Ringle EQ 21 (Equalizer) doesn't come in 36 holes. Is there a 
 rim that looks very much like it?

 559X 20-23 outside
 Silver brake track, black anodized elsewhere
 36 holes
 Box section

 Cross posting so this question reaches as many as possible -- won't make a 
 habit of it. 

 Someone suggested WTB and Mavic, and I'll check those, but others' 
 opinions will help.

 Many thanks,

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike, Book, and Hatcheting

2015-07-22 Thread Patrick Moore
What do y'all find to chop with them lil' hatchets (axlings)? I used to
love to chop wood, but always used a full-size axe -- one was a Sears that
my father bought circa 1963 (my brother still has it), and t'other was a
backyard forged head on a hand-carved handle, Kenya, circa 1966. The tree
trimmers came and chopped 2' thick limbs from the trees near the house
(very pretty watermelon-colored-with-white-veins wood; the pink the color
of our Sandia Mountains at dusk. The trimmers used *pangas.*). I'd go out
on a weekend afternoon and chop those logs into smaller ones -- wish I had
the option to do that now. As good exercise as digging ditches, but far
more fun.

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 I know that there are Hatcheters on this list serve because some of you
 reply to me off-list.  I wonder if folks fear that they will be called out
 for being off-topic?  Be bold, oh League of Riv Hatcheters!  It's not
 anymore off-topic for Rivsters than aeropress coffee makers or paleo diets.

 Just to keep the little thread on life support...from the way back
 machine, here's one of all-time my favorite cyclofiend finds.  You've
 heard of Rivendell's Country Bike Movement? Well, I think I've taken it a
 step further, having fun Walter Mitty'ing it into a Pioneer Trekking Bike
 in preparation of a fanciful petroleum apocalypse -- 'Leading a rag-tag
 band of survivors across the desolate North American continent on his
 trusty Bridgestone RB-T' 

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Re: [RBW] Dirt Drop stem with Atlantis?

2015-07-22 Thread Patrick Moore
I've never drop-bar'd an Atlantis, but I've drop-bar'd many other bikes
typically not drop-bar'd, and the DD stem is a wonderful instrument for
that end.

My favorite (he repeated hisself endlessly) was the very early '90s DB Axis
Team with the head cut off almost flush with the tt. After conferring with
Riv, I bought a 10 cm DD stem to hold the 46 cm Noodle, and the ride,
despite my predilection for a shoved-back saddle and the (by road bike
standards) unnaturally long top tube, the DD got the bar in a very
comfortable place with at least 4 of quill to spare. Remember that, as you
raise the bar, it comes back at you.

The final setup was quite comfortable-- and note again: there was much
quill to spare.

IMO, the Atlantis is a natural for a drop bar -- go for it!

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 Anyone have thoughts about using a Dirt Drop stem paired with some Noodle
 handlebars on an Atlantis?

 Pros? Cons?

 Any insight would be greatly appreciated, thanks!!

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[RBW] Re: Suggest a 36 hole rim that looks like the EQ21?

2015-07-22 Thread Peter Adler
The weird thing about the Velocity rims is that either the 26 Synergy 
http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/synergy-559 or the 26 Atlas 
http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/atlas-559 are the perfect wide 
size and perfect boxy shape - but unlike every other Velocity rim (and 
almost everyone else's rims these days), they're only available in silver 
and polished silver.

Peter In Berkeley

On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 4:14:53 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 Velocity has
 http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/aeroheat-559

 and if you want to go pretty fat:
 http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/cliff-hanger-559

  

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[RBW] Re: Suggest a 36 hole rim that looks like the EQ21?

2015-07-22 Thread Peter Adler
Same for the NoBS http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/nobs-559, which 
is a skosche wider than the Atlas, at 25.4mm.

Peter I haven't prowled around velocity's site since they moved from 
Australia Adler

On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 5:28:35 PM UTC-7, Peter Adler wrote:

 The weird thing about the Velocity rims is that either the 26 Synergy 
 http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/synergy-559 or the 26 Atlas 
 http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/atlas-559 are the perfect wide 
 size and perfect boxy shape - but unlike every other Velocity rim (and 
 almost everyone else's rims these days), they're only available in silver 
 and polished silver.

 Peter In Berkeley

 On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 4:14:53 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:

 Velocity has
 http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/aeroheat-559

 and if you want to go pretty fat:
 http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/cliff-hanger-559

  

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[RBW] Re: Country Bike Rally in Michigan 2015

2015-07-22 Thread Marc Irwin
I'll let you know later next month after I get some confirmations.  I know 
of two women who expressed an interest and we may have some locals show up 
for the rides.  We'll just have to see.  Later in August I will PM each 
person to confirm so I will have some viable numbers.
Marc

On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 8:32:49 AM UTC-4, Avery Wilson wrote:

 I'm most definitely interested. Just one thing -  talking to my wife about 
 it, and she assumes it's going to be a bunch of dudes, their bikes, and 
 camping. I'm fine with that for myself, but is her assumption true? Would 
 there be other ladies in the group? If so, we may both come, if not, it may 
 be just me and I'll hitch a ride with Michael from indy.   

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Re: [RBW] Re: tandem captain advice?

2015-07-22 Thread Eunice Chang
I get to practice my powers of extrasensory perception, though. Humans are
fairly predictable beings. :)

-E.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:40 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Yeah, verbal commands, maybe not so helpful...

 On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Eunice Chang sleepyn...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Thank you all for your advice. It was really helpful, especially the bit
  about how the captain can hold the bike during mount/dismount.
 
  The ride is only 11 miles and with like 100 other folks so it's not
  particularly fast. You could say I would be there just to enjoy the
  ride...but it does give me a good incentive to seek other tandem
 captains in
  the future.
 
  Interesting fact: I'm deaf, so I don't rely on voice commands or hand
  signals when on a tandem - mostly I focus on the rhythm and on the
 streets
  when it comes to stops, bumps, and turns. Most of the time I actually do
 all
  the talking (maps, etc) especially if the captain is talking to someone
 else
  in the group and not paying attention to the road. :)
 
  -E.
 
 
 
  On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
  Also, the stoker's job on starts is to get the bicycle moving while the
  captain is clipping in.
 
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[RBW] Re: More Sam Love--and do you ride your Riv through winter?

2015-07-22 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch




 I live in Central Oregon and I ride year round on my Atlantis. I hate 
 cars, and I am car-less. We get snow, and it gets pretty cold. Winter 
 before last, it hit twenty below. Crazy weather warming weirdness. Anyhoo, 
 here are my tips: I run fenders with lots of clearance and ensure that the 
 bottom of the fenders are closer to the tire than the top. This ensures 
 snow does not get packed into a narrowing space between the tire and 
 fender. I made long fender flaps from medium weight leather that gets 
 neatsfoot oiled yearly. A Son hub with a Luxo U light, is mounted on the 
 front rack. I took an old fender and pop riveted a short extension onto the 
 existing fender on the front to prevent water from splashing up onto the 
 light and vent hole. I use studded tires and run pressure low enough to 
 ensure the studs make contact with the ice, and to provide a small amount 
 of comfort for the battering of riding over auto-chewed-chunks. 

I treated the inside of the frame with Frame Saver, twice. I keep the 
scratches touched up and wax my bike three or four times throughout the 
year. Waxing helps the crud to fall off and helps preserve the finish. 
I had my Atlantis powder coated to give it a little more armor compared to 
the stock paint. 
Waterproof panniers and a Ortlieb handlebar bag carries stuff. 


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[RBW] Re: Country Bike Rally in Michigan 2015

2015-07-22 Thread Avery Wilson
I'm most definitely interested. Just one thing -  talking to my wife about it, 
and she assumes it's going to be a bunch of dudes, their bikes, and camping. 
I'm fine with that for myself, but is her assumption true? Would there be other 
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