Re: [RBW] FS 2000 Rivendell Road Standard by Joe Stark 60cm ctc

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

Interesting conversation. I don't really notice chainstay length one way or another on the road, but for me, climbing singletrack isn't as fun with longer stays. I end up spinning out the back tire with my longer-stayed bike. I have to alter my preferred position to weigh down the back, which means

Re: [RBW] Re: Somebody get these guys some Sackvilles

He's on a roll today!!! On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 7:54 PM, dougP wrote: > "The nice ones with the supple pneumatic tyres and the long chainstays are > hanging from ropes in the horse stable, waiting for A. H. Petersen to get > matching deerstalkers and hatchet slings back in stock." > > Jeff, with

Re: [RBW] Re: Somebody get these guys some Sackvilles

"The nice ones with the supple pneumatic tyres and the long chainstays are hanging from ropes in the horse stable, waiting for A. H. Petersen to get matching deerstalkers and hatchet slings back in stock." Jeff, with that sense of humor we expect to see on the next SCAR event. I'll be wearing

Re: [RBW] Re: Ch-ch-ch-changes... in 2016

I'm a fortunate bloke with a AHH and a Rambler and love them both. Considering my different builds and the things already mentioned, they are quite different for me. Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" gr

Re: [RBW] Re: Somebody get these guys some Sackvilles

On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 6:46:33 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: > > It's odd that, in 1898, enthusiasts would be using 10 year old bikes. > Maybe those are their beater bikes. The nice ones with the supple pneumatic tyres and the long chainstays are hanging from ropes in the horse stable

[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

Conversely, I rather like the long stays on my Clem (though, can't speak for any singletrack stuff there). They don't really slow me down any on the hairpin at the bottom of a hill I take every day to get on a trail (though I do now need to put a knee out to do it at the same speeds as my 650b

Re: [RBW] FS 2000 Rivendell Road Standard by Joe Stark 60cm ctc

Pretty, and the same blue and white/cream and the same lugs and crown as my 1999 Joe custom fixie. But the seatstay caps on mine are flat, not concave. People say orange is fast, but I believe that this metallic dark blue is faster. Flat or concave stay caps -- it's a wash. On Thu, Dec 17, 2015

Re: [RBW] Re: Somebody get these guys some Sackvilles

Those bikes look as if they are about 10 years old, if the photo was taken in 1898 -- the frames and tires look like the first to supplant the "ordinary," in the 1880s. A bike in the mid to late 1880s would probably not yet have had a freewheel; thus the fork pegs for coasting downhill (and with th

[RBW] Re: Somebody get these guys some Sackvilles

I'm impressed with how little gear they have. Perhaps they are not actually touring? It seems like they either have too much stuff, or not enough. But what are the pegs on the forks for? Are those foot rests? Yes, I wish knickers + tall socks would become reasonably acceptable again. Shorts are

[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

I am generally in tune with the changes & long chain stays, but too long is too long. We have two Clementines, a small & a medium & in my opinion the chain stays on both are too long. The small one is only a little too long (1/4" ?) The medium on the other hand is probably almost an inch too lo

[RBW] FS 2000 Rivendell Road Standard by Joe Stark 60cm ctc

Hi, I'm selling my 2000 Rivendell Road Standard frameset (frame and fork and headset). This frame was built in early 2000 for a friend of mine who used it for a season then hung it up for a decade - I got the frame from him a couple of years ago - but it's just too small for me, so time to let

[RBW] FS Nitto Mini Front Rack and Velo Orange bags

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[RBW] Re: Ch-ch-ch-changes... in 2016

On an AHH I think that would need to be racer, racerm would be for a rodeo no? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@g

Re: [RBW] Re: Ch-ch-ch-changes... in 2016

...and I'd be happy to spend my money into the coffers of either business ...and I'd be happy to ride either one of them One of each! On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 1:20:54 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote: > > Except the Hilsen is lugged and and painted. Isn't the rambler powder > coated and TIG

Re: [RBW] Re: Ch-ch-ch-changes... in 2016

Except the Hilsen is lugged and and painted. Isn't the rambler powder coated and TIG welded? On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 3:07:05 PM UTC-6, jbartoe wrote: > > Isn't a braze-on racer hilsen the same thing as an Ocean Air Cycles > Rambler? > > Joe > > -- > Date: Th

Re: [RBW] Re: Ch-ch-ch-changes... in 2016

Joe, high trail <> low trail fat tubes <> skinny tubes So, still pretty different! But, agree that the mission statement would be similar. Best, joe in pdx or On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Joe Bartoe wrote: > Isn't a braze-on racer hilsen the same thing as an Ocean Air Cycles > Rambler?

RE: [RBW] Re: Ch-ch-ch-changes... in 2016

Isn't a braze-on racer hilsen the same thing as an Ocean Air Cycles Rambler? Joe Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 12:15:03 -0800 From: stone...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Ch-ch-ch-changes... in 2016 Agree, 100%. Love my Hilsen - would love it even more with braze-o

[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

It actually looks like a fun bike to rideI've never heard of this guy's bikes. Thanks for the videos. On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 1:22:08 PM UTC-6, iamkeith wrote: > Looks like Chainstay on the Plus is 19".Prior to that, and right after > the mystery bikes were unveiled, he sho

[RBW] Re: Ch-ch-ch-changes... in 2016

Agree, 100%. Love my Hilsen - would love it even more with braze-on centerpulls. On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 6:56:59 AM UTC-8, Matthew J wrote: > > Repeating what I said in an earlier post: A Hilsen with braze on Paul > RacerMs would be quite the bike! > -- You received this message be

[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

Looks like a front shock would smooth out a lot of the chunk of that video! On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 11:22:08 AM UTC-8, iamkeith wrote: > > > Oh... one more video and similarity: Jeff espousing Grant's S240 concept: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mygdN85tcw > > > On Thursday, Decem

[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

I'm happy with the news. I have both a 54cm Hunq and a 59cm Hilsen. I've often thought about adding braze-on centerpulls to the Hilsen so I can de-adapt my Paul Racers to use the proper mounting format. I love the idea of a longer Hunq - more stability is better on off-road touring, hill cli

[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

Looks like Chainstay on the Plus is 19".Prior to that, and right after the mystery bikes were unveiled, he showed an experimental prototype that he called the Long Ranger, which was even longer by quite a bit. But he retreated somewhat for the production versions. You're right though that

[RBW] FS Proto Hunqapillar / Appalossa 650B 52 CM

Top tube measures approximately 57 cm from center of seat Tube to center of head tube. Approximate stand over with 2.2 wtb tires at 30 psi or so 82 cm Thanks Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

Jones Plus has 19" stays. http://blog.jonesbikes.com/jones-plus-this-is-it/ Dem's long. On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 10:51:52 AM UTC-8, RJM wrote: > > Hey Keith, > > If you check out those Jones Bikes, the chainstays are still relatively > short...same goes for the Trek Stache, which is an

[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

Ha. That's funny. On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 10:47:07 PM UTC-6, sameness wrote: > > The Roadeo will also have clearance for 55s and three top tubes. > > Jeff Hagedorn > Los Angeles, CA USA > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunc

[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

Hey Keith, If you check out those Jones Bikes, the chainstays are still relatively short...same goes for the Trek Stache, which is another 29+ in the marketplace (which has a 16.5 inch chainstay). What is the chainstay length on the Jones bike? I'm having trouble finding it. Now, the chains

[RBW] Re: Rinko and how it works

I bought a Velo-Orange Rinko Headset and another set of metal fenders purely to try to Rinko-ize one bike. Nowwhich bike? On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 6:55:48 AM UTC-8, Jan Heine wrote: > > There has been a lot of discussion lately of Rinko, so this blog post > explaining the differe

Re: [RBW] WTB: Atlantis 61cm

Tom, That is one BEAUTIFUL Atlantis! Thanks for brightening my day. Erl On Thursday, December 17, 2015 at 12:21:10 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: > > This is the bike: > > > > [image: cid:FB05C35F-91DE-47E5-9EE1-8B38C14553CC] > > > > -Original Message- > From: Allingham II, Thomas J (WIL) > S

[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

You know how it goes with a new toy , all others get relegated/discarded/sold/trashed/stored/given away etc. etc It by no means makes the former "toy" obsolete in any way . Funny, all those bikes(and anything) from the 70's/80's/whatever-year-model-make and such that were relegated

[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

you are right about that. a 56cm hunq would be something very interesting to me...though i'd want that diagatube. anyway, i think whatever they do will be functional and pretty and all that good stuff, and ill likely drool over all of it. from my perspective, of having a hunq and having ridde

RE: [RBW] WTB: Atlantis 61cm

I have a VERY sweet 61cm I might be willing to sell. Ping me if you want pictures. Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Justin Schoop Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 11:37 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject:

[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

Holly Molly. Just for the sake of voicing the counterpoint of a more enthusiastic reaction: This could be the best Rivendell news in years! If not EVER. - In terms of people claiming revolutionary results from longer stays, I think it HAS happened. Remember when Keven - the resident race g

[RBW] WTB: Atlantis 61cm

I'm definitely willing to trade my 64 for a 61 frame. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

dd Well, I can't say I'd be in the market for a longer version of the Hunq or > Atlantis. They may be much better at touring with longer staysbut I'm > just not in the market for a touring bike after buying an Atlantis > recently. > > What I do want is a Rivendell mountain bike made to rid

[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

Well, I can't say I'd be in the market for a longer version of the Hunq or Atlantis. They may be much better at touring with longer staysbut I'm just not in the market for a touring bike after buying an Atlantis recently. What I do want is a Rivendell mountain bike made to ride the singlet

[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

I wonder if Riv will start marketing them as mid-tail/cargo bike. If there was a strong rack (Nitto or otherwise) that provided high load rating to hold a child with stoker bars... that reasoning might sway my wife on why I need another bike. I also wonder whether the top tube length will get l

[RBW] Re: Sunrace 'one at a time'

These shifters shift great, they're as friction as anything else aside from the (depending on your feelings on audible shifting) annoying clicks not usually associated with friction shifting. What's really great is you can rotate them on their mount to suit your feelings on lever swing zones. N

[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

All I can say is that I'm definitely in the pro-long chainstay camp. I think it generally reflects the evolution of the comfortable riding position ethos that Grant has always espoused. Recently, this has meant Rivendell selling more and more of their bikes with upright handlebars. Longer wh

[RBW] Re: Sunrace 'one at a time'

a click isnt necessarily an index. There is a clear difference between the shifter I have marked "friction" and the one marked 9speed On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 7:53:07 PM UTC-5, Dave Johnston wrote: > > Maybe just read what it says on the Rivpage: > > " ... Trivia: These are actually mad

[RBW] Re: Sunrace 'one at a time'

Hmm, but then it 'indexes' does it not? It's not a truly friction one? On Wednesday, December 16, 2015 at 4:45:35 PM UTC-5, masmojo wrote: > > Sorry, having difficulty sending Image directly to you, not sure if this > is because I am still kinda new around here or because I am not familiar > wit

[RBW] WTB: Atlantis 61cm

Offer a trade I swapped a 61 for 64 a few years ago. Everybody was happy even fedex Tom Dusky Michigan and Florida -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an em

[RBW] Re: Geometry comparison, just for kicks

Yes - I forgot to say "thanks," too. Always good to find out about quality builders. Ever since the 80s, I've told myself that my first custom mountain bike would be a Rock Lobster - but I've yet to do it. So it was really interesting to see that John cut his teeth working with Paul Sadoff!

[RBW] Re: Ch-ch-ch-changes... in 2016

Repeating what I said in an earlier post: A Hilsen with braze on Paul RacerMs would be quite the bike! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-

[RBW] Rinko and how it works

There has been a lot of discussion lately of Rinko, so this blog post explaining the different components used to make a Rinko bike (Hint: there are very few!) may be of interest: https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/12/17/rinko-parts-useful-not-only-for-train-travel/

[RBW] Re: Geometry comparison, just for kicks

Thanks for the link tdusky ! Nice looking frames , I'm a sucker for biplane fork crowns , reminds me of me 'ol Stumpjumper . I realize they can be had by any builder but I don't see many made into frames. On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 8:03:06 PM UTC-5, tdusky wrote: > > You should get a c

[RBW] Re: New Hunqapillar frame geometry

Worth waiting for ? Not unless you really wanted a longer stay version . Ask yourself if you'll travel/commute with it , as super long stays present a whole host of issues with car/bus racks and air/ground shipping containers and boxes. I'll only say that I sure am glad I have a 60cm

[RBW] New Hunqapillar frame geometry

It just says changes, not what those changes are ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to