Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Well I think the color discussion was all in fun especially since none of us 
can dictate what that may end up being on these bikes.  It's a bike forum and 
all sorts of topics get tossed around just for the sharing of ideas.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem L (low bar) for longer rides?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Depending on your pbh, another great option would be the possible next 
batch of Roscoe mixtes, PBH of 77 to 87, so saddle heights around 66 to 76 
(see other thread). That might be the ticket--slightly lighter than the 
Clementine, but can take the nice comfy tires, and will at least look a 
teeny bit faster than ol' Clementine.

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 10:28:47 PM UTC-4, LeahFoy wrote:
>
> Well, regardless of what conclusion Roberta comes to, are we not now all 
> pining for a Clem? After reading that link Mark posted, I have an unhealthy 
> desire to put my name on a Clem L. This, when I already have TBBITW (The 
> Best Bike in the World)!!! My mother-in-law got a Clementine and someday I 
> suppose it will live with me, but I hope that is ages away.
>
> Roberta, let me live vicariously through you - get a Bosco'd Clem!!!
>
>

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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Abcyclehank]

No horse in this race since I have a jumbo mixte mountain bike on the way.  
However, I am happy leaving colors up to Will in my case or anyone else given 
that opportunity by Grant.  Personally I feel that is a slippery slope 
suggesting colors; to many perspectives, to many contradictions, hope all are 
content and grow to love whatever it end up being.

Now back to your regularly scheduled suggestions regarding your new frames.

Sincerely,
Ryan "practically color blind" Hankinson
West Michigan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem L (low bar) for longer rides?

[LeahFoy]

Well, regardless of what conclusion Roberta comes to, are we not now all pining 
for a Clem? After reading that link Mark posted, I have an unhealthy desire to 
put my name on a Clem L. This, when I already have TBBITW (The Best Bike in the 
World)!!! My mother-in-law got a Clementine and someday I suppose it will live 
with me, but I hope that is ages away.

Roberta, let me live vicariously through you - get a Bosco'd Clem!!!

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[RBW] Another herd in desperate need of thinning

[lconley]

I thought I had about 15-16 bikes but wrote it down and came up with 21 
including the anticipated HubbuhubbuH so it is definitely time to sell a 
few. Trying not to become a hoarder, but I guess that ship has sailed.

I have two 56 cm Double TT Sams - one 2012 blue headtube built as a single 
speed with grey 700x50 Big Bens (don't try this at home, White Industries 
Eno eccentric hubs and centerpulls required) and a 2016 metal flake orange 
noodle bar 22 speed (my "racing" bike) with 700x44 Compass Snoqualmie Pass 
tires, Curtis Odom LF Holey hubs. I am going to transfer the single speed 
components to the Rosco Bubbe 50cm version 1 that is on it's way - so the 
Blue Sam frame will be for sale - w/headset, BB and I can throw in some 
Tektro sidepulls with it if desired. It is in excellent condition, no dents 
or damage, just a few paint chips if you look for them. This was my 1st 
Rivendell (up to 8 now ?!?)

I also have a 60 cm Betty Foy 9x1 with Bullmoose Boscos that can go. 
Hammered Honjo fenders and a gorgeous NOS Spidel crank.

I am "in training" for the Cross Florida ride April 1 & 2 ( 170 miles in 
two days) so I might be a little slow responding to emails & posting 
pictures for the next couple weeks if anyone is interested. Rode my 
Bombadil last year, it will be the orange Sam this year.

I also have a Trek Belleville (converted to 8 speed hub), late 70s (maybe 
early 80s) Schwinn SuperSport (fillet brazed chrome-moly frame), Bike 
Friday Metro, Scott SUB 10 (8 speed belt drive, disc brakes, SP dynohub) 
and a Flying Pigeon that aren't going to make the cut.  The Flying Pigeon 
is a two-speed kickback coaster brake with moustache bars (a Path Racer 
style bike), but includes the rod brakes & handlebars, fenders and chain 
case.

I have two 1973 P-15 Paramounts, one is too big for me (~24" frame) but has 
original paint, decals and components and I am kind of on the fence about 
it. The smaller one I bought new at the Schwinn dealer in 75 after my 
Gitane TdF was hit by a car (actually a police car). Lots of miles and 
components swaps (Campagnolo Hi-lo hubs, Rally rear derailleur) and a 
couple of paint jobs. Keeping that one - need to sent it to Waterford for a 
repaint & decals. Love those chromed lugs.

I have two early seventies Gitane Tour de Frances, one is too small (~20" 
frame), it is going but I may have a friend that is interested already. The 
other one is NOS - only ridden once by me with another set of wheels - the 
original sew-up rims have never seen glue. Kind of a museum piece and a 
keeper for now.

I also have an odd full nickel plated "Resurrectio" lugged single speed 
with generator front hub and 650b's. probably about 53 cm. 

Not sure about my SE bikes F@e.

I am in Florida and some of these would not be worth shipping, but if you 
are in Florida I might deliver.

Laing

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Re: [RBW] Re: Recovering from Ankle Surgery

[Steve Palincsar]

That should have been "email," obviously.


On 03/22/2017 09:44 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:


Emain Jan.


On 03/22/2017 09:33 PM, George Schick wrote:
Tracking back to this thread, since I've become interested in this 
Grand Bois 120mm cassette, I found that the link to the Compass web 
site is defunct.  Going directly to their main web site and searching 
for components under the heading "Hubs," I found only a 130mm 
available.  While it looked to be a great idea, it must not have 
attracted much interest and is yet another good option that has now 
disappeared.


On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 1:33:40 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:


On 03/02/2017 12:17 PM, Wayne Naha wrote:

No, Steve, it doesn't have to be a freewheel at all.  The Grand
Bois 120mm cassette you found is amazing.  I had no idea that
such a thing existed.  It really is ideal.  I really wasn't
relishing the use of a freewheel, mainly because they don't seem
to be made anymore.  And with the Grand Bois I can get an extra
cog tucked in back there, which is nice.  The rear spacing of
this bike has been the sticky wicket in the whole 700C
conversion project.  It made no sense to me to go to all the
effort and expense of ditching the 27" wheel, only to keep the
freewheel.  Thanks for the info!



https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/hubs/grand-bois-120mm-cassette-hub/


for the hub (currently 32 hole out of stock, 36 hole in stock)  and

https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/hubs/grand-bois-6-speed-cassette/


for the cassette.  "These custom cassettes from Grand Bois are
made for use with the 120mm spaced Cassette Hubs, allowing you to
breathe new life into an older frame. The cassettes uses Shimano
7-speed cogs and spacers, so 7/8-speed chains must be used.
Ratio: 14-16-18-21-24-28" Mate that with a 7 or 8 speed index
shifter and a recent Shimano rear derailleur and you've got a
mostly modern bike.

Couple that cassette up with the proper choice of chain rings,
and you can really make a pretty nice drive train. Here's a
configuration that would tick all of my boxes:

50/34/24 700x32 6 spd 14-28

96.463.646.3
84.455.740.5
75.049.536.0
64.342.430.9
56.337.127.0
48.231.823.1

And also note that thanks to the narrow hub and the flexible
modern chain you could use all six of the sprockets with the big
ring and have no cross-chain angularity issues.  Given my basic
parameters (high <= 100 gear inches, low on the middle ring ~
32", low on the granny ~ 20-23") this is right there.  No monster
cliffs to fall off or struggle to climb up, no zigzagging back
and forth trying to eke out reasonable spacing and no major
compromises on range either.  Not shabby at all. Actually, this
is the first time I've calculated a 34/50 that made any sense to me!




On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 9:46:04 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar
wrote:

I get the 120, but does it have to be freewheel?  Grand Bois
makes a nice new 120mm cassette hub that can fit a five or
six speed Hyperglide cassette (made with 7 spd sprockets and
spacers).


On 03/02/2017 09:38 AM, Wayne Naha wrote:

Bill, you are so correct about the sensitivity, II was not
expecting this level of fun.  And about finding a 120 mm
hub!  But I've got time on my hands to look.  Thanks to all
who have responded.  That 120mm Grand Bois cassette hub is
certainly an interesting option.

On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:09:06 PM UTC-5, Bill in
Roswell GA wrote:

Certainly one of the most sensitive places to have
surgery! Having had 3 ankle surgeries over the years.

Wonderful frame, would have to spend a good bit of cash
to get something like that built these days. 700
conversion is certainly worth going to. Modern brakes
have much less flex.

As for wheels, modern rims with machined brake track
(Mavic Open Pro, CR 18 for instance) would be
preferred. I like Shimano hubs because they are easy to
rebuild and service from that period. Downside is
finding a 120 freewheel hub built to a modern machined
brake track rim. I'm sure there are plenty of other
excellent opinions.

Cheers
Bill in Roswell, GA

On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:21:03 AM UTC-5, Wayne
Naha wrote:

This past Monday a very helpful and friendly
orthopedic surgeon kindly harvested a tendon from
somewhere inside my right 

Re: [RBW] Re: Recovering from Ankle Surgery

[Steve Palincsar]

Emain Jan.


On 03/22/2017 09:33 PM, George Schick wrote:
Tracking back to this thread, since I've become interested in this 
Grand Bois 120mm cassette, I found that the link to the Compass web 
site is defunct.  Going directly to their main web site and searching 
for components under the heading "Hubs," I found only a 130mm 
available.  While it looked to be a great idea, it must not have 
attracted much interest and is yet another good option that has now 
disappeared.


On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 1:33:40 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:


On 03/02/2017 12:17 PM, Wayne Naha wrote:

No, Steve, it doesn't have to be a freewheel at all.  The Grand
Bois 120mm cassette you found is amazing.  I had no idea that
such a thing existed.  It really is ideal.  I really wasn't
relishing the use of a freewheel, mainly because they don't seem
to be made anymore.  And with the Grand Bois I can get an extra
cog tucked in back there, which is nice.  The rear spacing of
this bike has been the sticky wicket in the whole 700C conversion
project.  It made no sense to me to go to all the effort and
expense of ditching the 27" wheel, only to keep the freewheel.
 Thanks for the info!



https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/hubs/grand-bois-120mm-cassette-hub/


for the hub (currently 32 hole out of stock, 36 hole in stock)  and

https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/hubs/grand-bois-6-speed-cassette/


for the cassette.  "These custom cassettes from Grand Bois are
made for use with the 120mm spaced Cassette Hubs, allowing you to
breathe new life into an older frame. The cassettes uses Shimano
7-speed cogs and spacers, so 7/8-speed chains must be used. Ratio:
14-16-18-21-24-28" Mate that with a 7 or 8 speed index shifter and
a recent Shimano rear derailleur and you've got a mostly modern bike.

Couple that cassette up with the proper choice of chain rings, and
you can really make a pretty nice drive train. Here's a
configuration that would tick all of my boxes:

50/34/24 700x32 6 spd 14-28

96.463.646.3
84.455.740.5
75.049.536.0
64.342.430.9
56.337.127.0
48.231.823.1

And also note that thanks to the narrow hub and the flexible
modern chain you could use all six of the sprockets with the big
ring and have no cross-chain angularity issues.  Given my basic
parameters (high <= 100 gear inches, low on the middle ring ~ 32",
low on the granny ~ 20-23") this is right there.  No monster
cliffs to fall off or struggle to climb up, no zigzagging back and
forth trying to eke out reasonable spacing and no major
compromises on range either.  Not shabby at all.  Actually, this
is the first time I've calculated a 34/50 that made any sense to me!




On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 9:46:04 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar
wrote:

I get the 120, but does it have to be freewheel?  Grand Bois
makes a nice new 120mm cassette hub that can fit a five or
six speed Hyperglide cassette (made with 7 spd sprockets and
spacers).


On 03/02/2017 09:38 AM, Wayne Naha wrote:

Bill, you are so correct about the sensitivity, II was not
expecting this level of fun.  And about finding a 120 mm
hub!  But I've got time on my hands to look.  Thanks to all
who have responded.  That 120mm Grand Bois cassette hub is
certainly an interesting option.

On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:09:06 PM UTC-5, Bill in
Roswell GA wrote:

Certainly one of the most sensitive places to have
surgery! Having had 3 ankle surgeries over the years.

Wonderful frame, would have to spend a good bit of cash
to get something like that built these days. 700
conversion is certainly worth going to. Modern brakes
have much less flex.

As for wheels, modern rims with machined brake track
(Mavic Open Pro, CR 18 for instance) would be preferred.
I like Shimano hubs because they are easy to rebuild and
service from that period. Downside is finding a 120
freewheel hub built to a modern machined brake track
rim. I'm sure there are plenty of other excellent opinions.

Cheers
Bill in Roswell, GA

On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:21:03 AM UTC-5, Wayne
Naha wrote:

This past Monday a very helpful and friendly
orthopedic surgeon kindly harvested a tendon from
somewhere inside my right foot and used it to
replace a long missing ligament that used to
stabilize my 

Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I already own an orange Sam so I hope it isn't that color.  Have a green 
Quickbeam and a green Cheviot.  Blue Soma San Marco.  Would love for a 
shiny black color!

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 7:52:50 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:
>
> As reputed #4, I second both of Conway's suggestions, maybe in reverse 
> order.  But it is very disturbing that there is not a single orange speed 
> demon in my stable 
>
> Sent from my iPhone 
>
> > On Mar 22, 2017, at 7:24 PM, Conway Bennett  > wrote: 
> > 
> > Just emailed Grant.  Gonna replace my wife's 53 cm caseroll with the 
> bubbe which will fit me too so it'll see more use than the salsa does. 
>  It'll make a great kid hauler too, someday. 
> > 
> > It's supposed to be a different color so maybe we can influence that 
> decision.  I for instance, need an orange bike but always liked that frosty 
> root beer brown that ended up on a AHH way back when. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Recovering from Ankle Surgery

[George Schick]

Tracking back to this thread, since I've become interested in this Grand 
Bois 120mm cassette, I found that the link to the Compass web site is 
defunct.  Going directly to their main web site and searching for 
components under the heading "Hubs," I found only a 130mm available.  While 
it looked to be a great idea, it must not have attracted much interest and 
is yet another good option that has now disappeared.

On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 1:33:40 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
> On 03/02/2017 12:17 PM, Wayne Naha wrote:
>
> No, Steve, it doesn't have to be a freewheel at all.  The Grand Bois 120mm 
> cassette you found is amazing.  I had no idea that such a thing existed. 
>  It really is ideal.  I really wasn't relishing the use of a freewheel, 
> mainly because they don't seem to be made anymore.  And with the Grand Bois 
> I can get an extra cog tucked in back there, which is nice.  The rear 
> spacing of this bike has been the sticky wicket in the whole 700C 
> conversion project.  It made no sense to me to go to all the effort and 
> expense of ditching the 27" wheel, only to keep the freewheel.  Thanks for 
> the info!
>
>
>
> https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/hubs/grand-bois-120mm-cassette-hub/
>   
> for the hub (currently 32 hole out of stock, 36 hole in stock)  and
>
> https://www.compasscycle.com/shop/components/hubs/grand-bois-6-speed-cassette/
>  
> for the cassette.  "These custom cassettes from Grand Bois are made for use 
> with the 120mm spaced Cassette Hubs, allowing you to breathe new life into 
> an older frame. The cassettes uses Shimano 7-speed cogs and spacers, so 
> 7/8-speed chains must be used. Ratio: 14-16-18-21-24-28"  Mate that with a 
> 7 or 8 speed index shifter and a recent Shimano rear derailleur and you've 
> got a mostly modern bike.
>
> Couple that cassette up with the proper choice of chain rings, and you can 
> really make a pretty nice drive train.  Here's a configuration that would 
> tick all of my boxes:
>
> 50/34/24 700x32 6 spd 14-28
>
> 96.463.646.3
> 84.455.740.5
> 75.049.536.0
> 64.342.430.9
> 56.337.127.0
> 48.231.823.1
>
> And also note that thanks to the narrow hub and the flexible modern chain 
> you could use all six of the sprockets with the big ring and have no 
> cross-chain angularity issues.  Given my basic parameters (high <= 100 gear 
> inches, low on the middle ring ~ 32", low on the granny ~ 20-23") this is 
> right there.  No monster cliffs to fall off or struggle to climb up, no 
> zigzagging back and forth trying to eke out reasonable spacing and no major 
> compromises on range either.  Not shabby at all.  Actually, this is the 
> first time I've calculated a 34/50 that made any sense to me!
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2017 at 9:46:04 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: 
>>
>> I get the 120, but does it have to be freewheel?  Grand Bois makes a nice 
>> new 120mm cassette hub that can fit a five or six speed Hyperglide cassette 
>> (made with 7 spd sprockets and spacers).
>>
>> On 03/02/2017 09:38 AM, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>> Bill, you are so correct about the sensitivity, II was not expecting this 
>> level of fun.  And about finding a 120 mm hub!  But I've got time on my 
>> hands to look.  Thanks to all who have responded.  That 120mm Grand Bois 
>> cassette hub is certainly an interesting option.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:09:06 PM UTC-5, Bill in Roswell GA 
>> wrote: 
>>>
>>> Certainly one of the most sensitive places to have surgery! Having had 3 
>>> ankle surgeries over the years.  
>>>
>>> Wonderful frame, would have to spend a good bit of cash to get something 
>>> like that built these days. 700 conversion is certainly worth going to. 
>>> Modern brakes have much less flex. 
>>>
>>> As for wheels, modern rims with machined brake track (Mavic Open Pro, CR 
>>> 18 for instance) would be preferred. I like Shimano hubs because they are 
>>> easy to rebuild and service from that period. Downside is finding a 120 
>>> freewheel hub built to a modern machined brake track rim. I'm sure there 
>>> are plenty of other excellent opinions.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Bill in Roswell, GA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 11:21:03 AM UTC-5, Wayne Naha wrote: 

 This past Monday a very helpful and friendly orthopedic surgeon kindly 
 harvested a tendon from somewhere inside my right foot and used it to 
 replace a long missing ligament that used to stabilize my ankle when 
 walking.  He also scraped out a good deal of osteo-arthritic buildup that 
 had been limiting the range of motion of my foot.  Recovery has been a bit 
 painful so far.  There can be no weight on the joint for three weeks.  So 
 here I am, reclining on the couch, a little loopy from pain meds, but so 
 far not watching daytime TV.  To pass the time, I'm kind of daydreaming 
 about doing a 700C conversion to my 1976 Raleigh Gran Sport.  It's a nifty 

[RBW] Re: Errandonnee 2017 - any other Riv Riders onboard?

[LLM]

I completed the Errandonnee a few years ago as a personal challenge to try 
my hand at riding through cold and snow.  I'm tempted this year...with one 
eye on the days of rain, ice to rain, and wintry mix to rain in the 
forecast!

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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

As reputed #4, I second both of Conway's suggestions, maybe in reverse order.  
But it is very disturbing that there is not a single orange speed demon in my 
stable

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 22, 2017, at 7:24 PM, Conway Bennett  
> wrote:
>
> Just emailed Grant.  Gonna replace my wife's 53 cm caseroll with the bubbe 
> which will fit me too so it'll see more use than the salsa does.  It'll make 
> a great kid hauler too, someday.
>
> It's supposed to be a different color so maybe we can influence that 
> decision.  I for instance, need an orange bike but always liked that frosty 
> root beer brown that ended up on a AHH way back when.
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[RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Conway Bennett]

Just emailed Grant.  Gonna replace my wife's 53 cm caseroll with the bubbe 
which will fit me too so it'll see more use than the salsa does.  It'll make a 
great kid hauler too, someday.  

It's supposed to be a different color so maybe we can influence that decision.  
I for instance, need an orange bike but always liked that frosty root beer 
brown that ended up on a AHH way back when.

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[RBW] Re: Anything unusual needed for an Appaloosa build?

[Bob Lovejoy]

Thanks Ed, much appreciated.  When I lived in Denver, finding M4/M5/M6 
bolts, especially stainless, were fairly easy to find.  That is not 
necessarily true now that I live in a smaller midwest town.  I thought the 
other day that my bike building days will end, not when I run out of parts, 
but when I run out of bolts, screws and spacers!

I think the Appaloosa will start off without fenders, with the idea of 
exploring local dirt and gravel roads, but there is more rain here than in 
Colorado so fenders may come later.  Part of that answer will be decided by 
what size tires feel right on the bike.

Thanks for the help and the experience with the mount points.

Bob

   

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 4:51:01 PM UTC-5, Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
> For a canti build, someone mentioned the hangers already but I found I 
> needed to adjust the headset spacers (1" silver, 2.5mm or 5mm thick, having 
> a handful is nice) to accommodate the front hanger since I ran out of fork 
> using the spacer included with the frame. I also snapped the seat post bolt 
> troubleshooting slippage so I recommend having some spare M6x25mm bolts 
> (20mm may be long enough) with matching lock nuts handy.
>
> There are three potential mount points for the rear rack: two are M6 (as 
> others have pointed out), with the third, rearmost one as M5. Most folks 
> run a fender on the M5 mount, but I won't judge you if you rebel against 
> convention. Of the two M6 mount points, if you choose the dropout one, I 
> suggest getting in the fenders in at the same time: the two mount points 
> are close enough that there may be minor gymnastics involved to get all of 
> that to work together. I opted for the seat stay mount, and that has worked 
> well for me and my commuter bags/panniers plus no issues with heel strike.
>
> Note that "thick washer/spacer" (I think they're 2.5mm) which Riv sells 
> are for M5 bolts, so I couldn't use them to space out the rear rack whilst 
> opting for the M6 mounts.
>
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[RBW] Re: Anything unusual needed for an Appaloosa build?

[Ed Carolipio]

For a canti build, someone mentioned the hangers already but I found I 
needed to adjust the headset spacers (1" silver, 2.5mm or 5mm thick, having 
a handful is nice) to accommodate the front hanger since I ran out of fork 
using the spacer included with the frame. I also snapped the seat post bolt 
troubleshooting slippage so I recommend having some spare M6x25mm bolts 
(20mm may be long enough) with matching lock nuts handy.

There are three potential mount points for the rear rack: two are M6 (as 
others have pointed out), with the third, rearmost one as M5. Most folks 
run a fender on the M5 mount, but I won't judge you if you rebel against 
convention. Of the two M6 mount points, if you choose the dropout one, I 
suggest getting in the fenders in at the same time: the two mount points 
are close enough that there may be minor gymnastics involved to get all of 
that to work together. I opted for the seat stay mount, and that has worked 
well for me and my commuter bags/panniers plus no issues with heel strike.

Note that "thick washer/spacer" (I think they're 2.5mm) which Riv sells are 
for M5 bolts, so I couldn't use them to space out the rear rack whilst 
opting for the M6 mounts.

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[RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Ray Varella]

I think you can key off the 55m Cheviut for sizing, seat tube is within a half 
centimeter and the top tube length is about the same.and it takes 
pretty fat tires, a fair bit fatter than the Chev. 

Ray

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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Chris, I just looked it up.  77 to 87.  650b tires   Hey Pudge, 
congratulations!   Here's hoping we make it to 8!

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 4:19:36 PM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:
>
> I'm #4!  Can't wait.  I resisted first time around, but the new run was 
> too much 
>
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>
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> > 
> > For some reason I didn't get the email. What size these? The huge ones 
> or the smaller ones? I have a PBH of 84.75 and think the smaller one would 
> fit me well if that's what we are talking about. 
> > 
> > Cheers! 
> > Chris "who would love to be #6" Murray 
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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

I'm #4!  Can't wait.  I resisted first time around, but the new run was too much

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 22, 2017, at 3:58 PM, Christopher Murray  
> wrote:
>
> For some reason I didn't get the email. What size these? The huge ones or the 
> smaller ones? I have a PBH of 84.75 and think the smaller one would fit me 
> well if that's what we are talking about.
>
> Cheers!
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[RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Bob Lovejoy]

Chris,

Just tried to forward you what was sent... Hope it goes through! 

It would indeed be the mixte you might be looking for, right size as far as 
I can tell.

Bob


On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 2:58:01 PM UTC-5, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> For some reason I didn't get the email. What size these? The huge ones or 
> the smaller ones? I have a PBH of 84.75 and think the smaller one would fit 
> me well if that's what we are talking about. 
>
> Cheers!
> Chris "who would love to be #6" Murray
>

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[RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Chris an email was sent out to those that had signed up to get advance 
notices of the Rosco builds a while back.  And no, these are not the huge 
ones.  I have a pbh or 79 and the low end is 77.  I forget what the high 
end is without looking but sounds like you would be in the realm of the 
size.

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 3:58:01 PM UTC-4, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> For some reason I didn't get the email. What size these? The huge ones or 
> the smaller ones? I have a PBH of 84.75 and think the smaller one would fit 
> me well if that's what we are talking about. 
>
> Cheers!
> Chris "who would love to be #6" Murray
>

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[RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Christopher Murray]

For some reason I didn't get the email. What size these? The huge ones or the 
smaller ones? I have a PBH of 84.75 and think the smaller one would fit me well 
if that's what we are talking about. 

Cheers!
Chris "who would love to be #6" Murray

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[RBW] Re: The next Velo Lumino product: rear fender reinforcement plate

[Mike K.]

Anton,
What is the purpose of the center hole? The outside holes, I assume, attach 
to the fender. Are there attachments beneath brake bridges for fender 
mounting? If so, I probably could have saved myself some trouble over the 
years.

Follow-up question, do these only work with center-pull/canti brakes? My 
Ram is sidepull and I could see this being handy but not feasible due to 
the distance between the brake bridge and the fender. But maybe it's not as 
far apart as I think it is...

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[RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Hey Bill what are you waiting for!  Be #6!

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 3:21:48 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Bill "shiny-objects" Lindsay drops everything and starts clicking around 
> for a Sugino Qualete crankset.  
>
> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 12:04:35 PM UTC-7, sameness wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>> As seen here:
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm on the list as well!
>>
>> Jeff Hagedorn
>> Los Angeles, CA USA
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 11:53:32 AM UTC-7, Charlie R wrote:
>>>
>>> One more comment...
>>>
>>> When talking to Roman, he explained the rear drop out as sort of a 
>>> horizontal track end with the opening toward the front of the bike as 
>>> opposed to the rear of the bike.  The end has a slight angle downward.  I 
>>> hope I understood Roman correctly.
>>>
>>> Anyway, bottom line is a single speed should be a fairly easy build 
>>> according to Roman.
>>>
>>> Note to Roman:  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 2:10:21 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier 
>>> wrote:

 Just off the phone with Roman.  I'm #5 on the list.  yay!  Doesn't look 
 like it will take too long to make it to 8.




 On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 11:58:12 AM UTC-4, Charlie R wrote:

>
> I received a Rivendell email yesterday about another possible batch of 
> the Rosco sort of mountain mixte.  Sounds like the same as the last batch 
> with maybe a different color.  Cost is estimated to be $800 without 
> bottom 
> bracket, headset or seatpost.  Grant said he needs a commitment for 8 and 
> money will necessary at the end of June.  
>
> I'm on the list...
>
> Charlie
>


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[RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Bill Lindsay]

Bill "shiny-objects" Lindsay drops everything and starts clicking around 
for a Sugino Qualete crankset.  

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 12:04:35 PM UTC-7, sameness wrote:
>
>
> 
> As seen here:
>
>
>
> I'm on the list as well!
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
>
> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 11:53:32 AM UTC-7, Charlie R wrote:
>>
>> One more comment...
>>
>> When talking to Roman, he explained the rear drop out as sort of a 
>> horizontal track end with the opening toward the front of the bike as 
>> opposed to the rear of the bike.  The end has a slight angle downward.  I 
>> hope I understood Roman correctly.
>>
>> Anyway, bottom line is a single speed should be a fairly easy build 
>> according to Roman.
>>
>> Note to Roman:  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 2:10:21 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>>>
>>> Just off the phone with Roman.  I'm #5 on the list.  yay!  Doesn't look 
>>> like it will take too long to make it to 8.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 11:58:12 AM UTC-4, Charlie R wrote:
>>>

 I received a Rivendell email yesterday about another possible batch of 
 the Rosco sort of mountain mixte.  Sounds like the same as the last batch 
 with maybe a different color.  Cost is estimated to be $800 without bottom 
 bracket, headset or seatpost.  Grant said he needs a commitment for 8 and 
 money will necessary at the end of June.  

 I'm on the list...

 Charlie

>>>

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[RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Ray Varella]

For anyone in the S.F. Bay Area, if you are on the fence about ordering one, 
you are welcome to testride mine. 
I rode it this morning. 
They are really nice and quite a bargain IMHO


Ray
Vallejo CA

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[RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[sameness]

As seen here:



I'm on the list as well!

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 11:53:32 AM UTC-7, Charlie R wrote:
>
> One more comment...
>
> When talking to Roman, he explained the rear drop out as sort of a 
> horizontal track end with the opening toward the front of the bike as 
> opposed to the rear of the bike.  The end has a slight angle downward.  I 
> hope I understood Roman correctly.
>
> Anyway, bottom line is a single speed should be a fairly easy build 
> according to Roman.
>
> Note to Roman:  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> Charlie
>
>  
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 2:10:21 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>>
>> Just off the phone with Roman.  I'm #5 on the list.  yay!  Doesn't look 
>> like it will take too long to make it to 8.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 11:58:12 AM UTC-4, Charlie R wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I received a Rivendell email yesterday about another possible batch of 
>>> the Rosco sort of mountain mixte.  Sounds like the same as the last batch 
>>> with maybe a different color.  Cost is estimated to be $800 without bottom 
>>> bracket, headset or seatpost.  Grant said he needs a commitment for 8 and 
>>> money will necessary at the end of June.  
>>>
>>> I'm on the list...
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Charlie R]

One more comment...

When talking to Roman, he explained the rear drop out as sort of a 
horizontal track end with the opening toward the front of the bike as 
opposed to the rear of the bike.  The end has a slight angle downward.  I 
hope I understood Roman correctly.

Anyway, bottom line is a single speed should be a fairly easy build 
according to Roman.

Note to Roman:  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Charlie

 




On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 2:10:21 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> Just off the phone with Roman.  I'm #5 on the list.  yay!  Doesn't look 
> like it will take too long to make it to 8.
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 11:58:12 AM UTC-4, Charlie R wrote:
>
>>
>> I received a Rivendell email yesterday about another possible batch of 
>> the Rosco sort of mountain mixte.  Sounds like the same as the last batch 
>> with maybe a different color.  Cost is estimated to be $800 without bottom 
>> bracket, headset or seatpost.  Grant said he needs a commitment for 8 and 
>> money will necessary at the end of June.  
>>
>> I'm on the list...
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Ryan Fleming]

Ahh now I see what you mean...thanks,Jim

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 10:22:01 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
>
> https://fitkitsystems.com/product/pedal-spacers-20mm/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwnsPGBRDo4c6RqK-Oqu8BEiQAwNviCVM-vfOVecBoaNnqALDo7EP5bLrXUjP5aO7-UEeYBawaAihk8P8HAQ
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Ryan Fleming  > wrote:
>
>> what are pedal extenders exactly? 
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 4:29:18 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> The front hub is marked Clem.  The back hub is unmarked.  I don't think 
>>> they're Silver hubs per se.  They look like older Shimano MTB hubs.
>>>
>>> What do I think about the bike?  Feels big, bigger than the 65cm size 
>>> would indicate.  Standover was pretty tight when I stood over it in bare 
>>> feet after completing assembly and I am 6'7" with a 38 inseam!  Hopefully 
>>> it will be a little better in shoes.  I guess the tires are just so big 
>>> that it pushes the whole deal upwards.
>>>
>>> I took it for a spin around the neighborhood last night in my gym shorts 
>>> and slippers wearing a plain white tee around 1am.
>>>
>>> Handling was neutral and very stable, expected for a Rivendell.
>>>
>>> The rear derailer friction shifting was very, very smooth, I was pretty 
>>> amazed how easily it went between gears with a minimum of noise and fuss.  
>>> I was going to bolt on an indexed 8 speed unit but it was so smooth I may 
>>> just leave it.  I was expecting to need to make many small trim corrections 
>>> to eliminate noise coming from the rear but that was not the case at all.  
>>> I just stopped when it went thunk to the next gear and that was it, no 
>>> fiddling required.
>>>
>>> The front brake was rubbing a little so it's hard to estimate the 
>>> relative effort required move the bike but it felt somewhat hefty.  We'll 
>>> get the brake adjusted and see.
>>>
>>> Speaking of the brakes, the V brakes are very powerful even with the 
>>> stock pads.  A change to Koolstop salmon is definitely not required and 
>>> probably undesirable with these powerful brakes.  I think they'd be too 
>>> grabby with salmons.
>>>  
>>> I had the distinct feeling of not liking the handlebars so much, but, 
>>> the fit is definitely not dialed in as of yet.  Right now it feels 
>>> alarmingly upright.  We'll see.  I'm going to leave it alone for now but 
>>> I'm thinking I might prefer something like this: 
>>> https://www.ahearnecycles.com/shop/ahearnemap-handlebar.  
>>>
>>> I have not installed the stock handlebar grips as of yet, as I am unsure 
>>> as to what would be the expected method of installation.  Put them on dry, 
>>> or use the black goop that's used with the cork grips.
>>>
>>> Hard to tell on the seat, I usually wear bike shorts so kicking around 
>>> the block in gym shorts felt a bit uncomfortable.  I'll give it a 15-20 
>>> mile ride with bike shorts and see how I feel.
>>>
>>> I have the stock pedals on, but I'm going to need to get something 
>>> else.  I use pedal extenders on all my bikes and the stock Clem pedals can 
>>> only be tightened by using an allen wrench from the inside of the cranks.  
>>> With pedal extenders there's no way to fully tighten the pedals.   I guess 
>>> I could do them finger tight to the pedal extenders and put Locktite Red on 
>>> the threads.  LOL.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Ryan Fleming  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Nice...Jim are those Silver hubs as well? That Silver crank impresses 
 me more and more every time I see it. You'll have to let us know what you 
 think about this bike 

 On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 2:00:29 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> And
>
> On Mar 20, 2017 18:35, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>
>> Bam!
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2017 15:51, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>>
>> It has arrived!
>> Unfortunately, I am not at home yet, but Grandma is watching my 
>> daughter and brought it in the house.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Wally Estrella  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> HA HA! YES!  From the Riv Gallery.  I had the Catlantis on my 
>>> Atlantis box.  I guess this one will be the Clem Cat or something else 
>>> as a 
>>> surprise. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 2:00:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:

 I hear your pain. We're waiting to see the unveiling.  If you get 
 artwork on your riv box, I will be s jealous . Exciting! Have fun 
 unpacking (don't be in a hurry :)) and building the new bike

 On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:02:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!
>
> I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a 
> long time!
>
> One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the 
> 

Re: [RBW] The next Velo Lumino product: rear fender reinforcement plate

[Jay Fichialos]

Eric,

I created a custom reinforcement plate for my daughters Jack Taylor using a
stock 1" aluminum strap that can be found at most local hardware stores.
You simply trace out the shape you want, cut with a hacksaw or scroll saw,
then file and and polish. I used a round file to give it a little camber on
the bottom and allow it to sit evenly on the fender, and a flat file to
taper the edges and overall thin it out. Various grits of sand paper and
Simichrome brought it to a mirror shine.

I wanted one a little longer/narrower than those available at the time, I'm
happy with how it turned out.
Takes a little time but well worth the effort.

A few images for reference:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wnbvaaqck7fw1u5/2017-03-22%2011.56.48.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hwvg3m071u3j31m/2017-03-22%2011.55.29.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r7esxwncvzrxy2l/2017-03-22%2011.55.09.jpg?dl=0
https://plus.google.com/photos/111412591633365066438/album/6270196811045780369?authkey=CJXtxJeHp63RyQE

As a side note Anton does great work and I'm sure the plates he's created
are top-notch. He modernized the lights on the little Jack, and they work
fantastic!

Jay Fichialos
Pleasant Grove, Utah, USA



On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 10:57 AM, George Schick  wrote:

> Eric - looking at the photo I can see why you don't want the extra holes.
> But how do you keep it from shifting or turning sideways a bit from
> vibration, etc. without the bolts?  Contact cement?  Or is the
> diamond-shaped plate beveled in such a way that it conforms to the
> curvature of the fender, which keeps it in place?  If the latter, how would
> you create something like that?  Seems like you'd need a die or something
> to shape it.
>
> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 10:24:02 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> The advantage is purely aesthetic-trying to replicate the original Singer
>> part. I'll look into getting a piece of an old fender somewhere.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --Eric N
>> www.CampyOnly.com
>> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>
>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Anton Tutter  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> I order all my stock pre-cut and drilled and then polished. I'd have to
>> do a special run of a single-hole version, and I have to order quite a few
>> to make them cost-effective.
>>
>> Aside from aesthetics, what is the practical advantage, if any, to having
>> as single hole? I would think it would act less as a strain relief in this
>> way. It would still "cradle" the fender, but I would imagine its overall
>> net benefit is less.
>>
>> If you're good with tin-snips and have a spare fender you can use as a
>> donor, you could cut a few out and polish them.
>>
>> Anton
>> velolumino.com
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 12:22:13 AM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>>>
>>> Anton:
>>>
>>> I wonder if you can make one of these for me with just the center hole,
>>> to match the reinforcement on my Singer:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --Eric Norris
>>> campyo...@me.com
>>> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>>>
>>> On Mar 19, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Anton Tutter  wrote:
>>>
>>> Velo Lumino is expanding into the "fender installation widget" space.
>>> The first of several widgets in this category is a reinforcement plate
>>> inspired by the old French constructeurs. It reduces fender stress fatigue
>>> at a common failure location by reducing localized stress risers. And it
>>> looks damn fine while doing it. Photo below is on a VO Zeppelin 650B
>>> fender. The plate is thin enough (0.64mm) that is doesn't noticeably alter
>>> the fender line of existing fender installations, and its shape can be
>>> tweaked by hand to follow different fender contours.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> It's cut from aluminum sheet stock using water jet technology. It's then
>>> pressed onto a curved form to create a nominal fender cross-section radius
>>> and finally it's machine polished to a mirror finish. Two flat-head
>>> stainless M3 bolts with flat washers, star washers, nuts and a leather
>>> washer for the bridge are included in the price.
>>>
>>>
>>> $17 on velolumino.com
>>> 
>>>
>>> Anton, who is working on yet more fender installation widgets...
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS SRAM X7 GXP 10 speed double crankset

[Bruce Smitham]

The crankset is sold

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 8:15:53 AM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>
> Bump- how about $70 for the crankset plus shipping CONUS and I'll include 
> the front derailleur?
>
> Bruce
>
> On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 5:56:14 PM UTC-8, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>>
>> Bump- how about $75 or best offer plus shipping?
>>
>> On Sunday, February 19, 2017 at 4:24:07 PM UTC-8, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>> SRAM X7 GXP 10 speed double crankset 175mm arms 42/28 rings in great 
>>> condition with less than 60 miles. Few scratches as seen in pictures $85 
>>> plus shipping CONUS.
>>>
>>> Bruce in San Diego
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Congrats on the bike!  I too love the mustard color.  I have the 
MAP-Ahearne on my new Quickbeam but I'm getting it back from the shop 
tomorrow so I have yet to try it out.  Can attest that it looks nice, 
though.

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 1:12:02 PM UTC-4, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>
> Congrats! I love that mustard color -- I wish it had been available when I 
> bought mine (a grey H-frame 52).
>
> If you do end up swapping the bars out for an Ahearne-Map, I'd love to 
> hear your impressions, as I've been thinking of doing the same thing.  
>
> Bob E
>  
>

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Re: [RBW] The next Velo Lumino product: rear fender reinforcement plate

[Eric Norris]

The one on my Singer just stays in place boy itself. It’s sandwiched between 
the brake bridge and the fender, with a leather washer between the 
reinforcement and the bridge. It is contoured to match the fender, so perhaps 
that helps.

This photo shows a Singer with the reinforcer, but with some cloth tape added 
at the ends: DSC_4851.jpg 
 

--Eric N
campyonly...@me.com
www.CampyOnly.com
Campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
@Campyonlyguy


> On Mar 22, 2017, at 9:57 AM, George Schick  wrote:
> 
> Eric - looking at the photo I can see why you don't want the extra holes.  
> But how do you keep it from shifting or turning sideways a bit from 
> vibration, etc. without the bolts?  Contact cement?  Or is the diamond-shaped 
> plate beveled in such a way that it conforms to the curvature of the fender, 
> which keeps it in place?  If the latter, how would you create something like 
> that?  Seems like you'd need a die or something to shape it.
> 
> On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 10:24:02 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
> The advantage is purely aesthetic-trying to replicate the original Singer 
> part. I'll look into getting a piece of an old fender somewhere.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> --Eric N
> www.CampyOnly.com 
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
> 
> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Anton Tutter  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Eric,
>> 
>> I order all my stock pre-cut and drilled and then polished. I'd have to do a 
>> special run of a single-hole version, and I have to order quite a few to 
>> make them cost-effective.
>> 
>> Aside from aesthetics, what is the practical advantage, if any, to having as 
>> single hole? I would think it would act less as a strain relief in this way. 
>> It would still "cradle" the fender, but I would imagine its overall net 
>> benefit is less.
>> 
>> If you're good with tin-snips and have a spare fender you can use as a 
>> donor, you could cut a few out and polish them.
>> 
>> Anton
>> velolumino.com 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 12:22:13 AM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>> Anton:
>> 
>> I wonder if you can make one of these for me with just the center hole, to 
>> match the reinforcement on my Singer:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com <>
>> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Anton Tutter > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Velo Lumino is expanding into the "fender installation widget" space. The 
>>> first of several widgets in this category is a reinforcement plate inspired 
>>> by the old French constructeurs. It reduces fender stress fatigue at a 
>>> common failure location by reducing localized stress risers. And it looks 
>>> damn fine while doing it. Photo below is on a VO Zeppelin 650B fender. The 
>>> plate is thin enough (0.64mm) that is doesn't noticeably alter the fender 
>>> line of existing fender installations, and its shape can be tweaked by hand 
>>> to follow different fender contours.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It's cut from aluminum sheet stock using water jet technology. It's then 
>>> pressed onto a curved form to create a nominal fender cross-section radius 
>>> and finally it's machine polished to a mirror finish. Two flat-head 
>>> stainless M3 bolts with flat washers, star washers, nuts and a leather 
>>> washer for the bridge are included in the price.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> $17 on velolumino.com 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anton, who is working on yet more fender installation widgets...
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem L (low bar) for longer rides?

[Les Lammers]

Excellent idea. You will then know what will work best for you. The most 
important thing is proper fit.

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 8:15:25 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>
> Thank you all!  *I think I'll need to go to "local" RIV reseller and ride 
> some.*
>
> I have two bikes, both  early 1990 hybrids.  The first is hybrid more of 
> mountain bike and that one is at work, so I can ride after work without 
> having to tote my more-liked bike back and forth.  I'm the original owner 
> but never "bonded" with it.The second one, a $140 CL purchase, is 
> better, in that it has 700c tires with 36 or 38 width. I got that nearly 
> two years ago.   It has twist shifters that work "most" of the time.  The 
> ride is pretty nice, but I'm a bit too stretched out on it, even with 
> raising the handlebars and moving the seat fore/aft.  Still, this is the 
> bike that got me to liking longer rides and smiling while riding.  Riding 
> this has made me happy, although my feet get number after an hour or so.  
> I've tried a number of current Giant/Specialized/Trek bikes, but then I get 
> back on my bike and like the feel of steel better.  
>
> So, I thought that it would be really nice to have a good quality,  steel 
> framed, non drop bar bike that fits me well.   Rivendell philosophy and the 
> comments here related to the "happiness" of the members while riding, 
>  resonated with me.  If I like the bike, can smile when riding and will 
> ride more and longer.  Plus, I'd like to go on more group rides and would 
> like to keep up.  Yes, I know: the engine.  I'll be doing more at the gym, 
> too.  :)
>
> Roberta
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 4:39:29 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Roberta, I owned a Clem H, and currently have an Appaloosa. I think they 
>> both handle about the same - smooth and stable in a straight line, but 
>> still a nice turn-in - but I would pick the Appa for a 50 mile ride. It's a 
>> little lighter and more responsive, which are things you will appreciate 30 
>> miles in and 20 to go. Also, it's a beautiful lugged frame. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anything unusual needed for an Appaloosa build?

[Michael Morrissey]

Canti hangers and an extra long chain

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[RBW] Re: New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Just off the phone with Roman.  I'm #5 on the list.  yay!  Doesn't look 
like it will take too long to make it to 8.




On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 11:58:12 AM UTC-4, Charlie R wrote:

>
> I received a Rivendell email yesterday about another possible batch of the 
> Rosco sort of mountain mixte.  Sounds like the same as the last batch with 
> maybe a different color.  Cost is estimated to be $800 without bottom 
> bracket, headset or seatpost.  Grant said he needs a commitment for 8 and 
> money will necessary at the end of June.  
>
> I'm on the list...
>
> Charlie
>

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[RBW] Re: Anything unusual needed for an Appaloosa build?

[Bob Lovejoy]

Absolutely!  I was just there yesterday...  and might be today as well!

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 12:32:15 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Just make sure when you are done you post a photo from in front of Uncle 
> Billy's
>
> BL in EC
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anything unusual needed for an Appaloosa build?

[Bill Lindsay]

Just make sure when you are done you post a photo from in front of Uncle 
Billy's

BL in EC

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 7:35:33 AM UTC-7, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> While waiting for e-mails with news of frame shipments and delivery dates, 
> I am putting together pieces and parts for building up a 58cm Appaloosa.  I 
> think I have or am collecting most things but it dawned on me that I might 
> need the extra long rear derailleur cable that Riv sells, maybe other 
> things that I have not thought about.  I know I will need two chains for 
> instance, or at least 1.x chains for the long chainstays.
>
> Is there anything else that anyone has run into on an Appaloosa or Clem 
> build that surprised them?  I am thinking not but thought it worth asking.
>
> Anyway, all help appreciated!
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
>

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[RBW] Re: Anything unusual needed for an Appaloosa build?

[Bob Lovejoy]

Thanks Joe...

I do remember you mentioning the 6 vs 5mm difference when you were doing 
your build.  Good thing to remember, so thanks.

I did call Riv the other day to ask about BB's and seatposts.  Rich said he 
thought they came with 111mm BB's.  He also told me that the Appa's use 
26.8 seatposts, so out went my stash of 27.2's.  I know a post comes with 
the frame, and it is probably just fine(!), but I am always looking at 
options.  One thing I could not decide on from pictures, and it's 
impossible to know until I try it out or better study the numbers, but does 
a 250mm length seatpost work or does it need to be longer (300, 350)?  We 
shall see and as long as I have something that works, that's 98% of it.  

I had not planned on buying a new bike but I just could not resist... 
strike when the right color and bike shows up!

Bob

 

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 12:05:38 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Some of the rear rack braze-ons are 6mm, not 5. I discovered this with a 
> Clem when I tried to thread a bolt in and it was loose..Appa has the same 
> arrangement. If I recall correctly the seatpost is 26.8, but I think your 
> frame comes with a seatpost. 

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[RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

Congrats! I love that mustard color -- I wish it had been available when I 
bought mine (a grey H-frame 52).

If you do end up swapping the bars out for an Ahearne-Map, I'd love to hear 
your impressions, as I've been thinking of doing the same thing.  

Bob E
 

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[RBW] Anything unusual needed for an Appaloosa build?

[Joe Bernard]

Some of the rear rack braze-ons are 6mm, not 5. I discovered this with a Clem 
when I tried to thread a bolt in and it was loose..Appa has the same 
arrangement. If I recall correctly the seatpost is 26.8, but I think your frame 
comes with a seatpost. 

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Re: [RBW] The next Velo Lumino product: rear fender reinforcement plate

[George Schick]

Eric - looking at the photo I can see why you don't want the extra holes. 
 But how do you keep it from shifting or turning sideways a bit from 
vibration, etc. without the bolts?  Contact cement?  Or is the 
diamond-shaped plate beveled in such a way that it conforms to the 
curvature of the fender, which keeps it in place?  If the latter, how would 
you create something like that?  Seems like you'd need a die or something 
to shape it.

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 10:24:02 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> The advantage is purely aesthetic-trying to replicate the original Singer 
> part. I'll look into getting a piece of an old fender somewhere.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --Eric N
> www.CampyOnly.com
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>
> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Anton Tutter  
> wrote:
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> I order all my stock pre-cut and drilled and then polished. I'd have to do 
> a special run of a single-hole version, and I have to order quite a few to 
> make them cost-effective.
>
> Aside from aesthetics, what is the practical advantage, if any, to having 
> as single hole? I would think it would act less as a strain relief in this 
> way. It would still "cradle" the fender, but I would imagine its overall 
> net benefit is less.
>
> If you're good with tin-snips and have a spare fender you can use as a 
> donor, you could cut a few out and polish them.
>
> Anton
> velolumino.com
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 12:22:13 AM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> Anton:
>>
>> I wonder if you can make one of these for me with just the center hole, 
>> to match the reinforcement on my Singer:
>>
>>
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Anton Tutter  wrote:
>>
>> Velo Lumino is expanding into the "fender installation widget" space. The 
>> first of several widgets in this category is a reinforcement plate inspired 
>> by the old French constructeurs. It reduces fender stress fatigue at a 
>> common failure location by reducing localized stress risers. And it looks 
>> damn fine while doing it. Photo below is on a VO Zeppelin 650B fender. The 
>> plate is thin enough (0.64mm) that is doesn't noticeably alter the fender 
>> line of existing fender installations, and its shape can be tweaked by hand 
>> to follow different fender contours.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> It's cut from aluminum sheet stock using water jet technology. It's then 
>> pressed onto a curved form to create a nominal fender cross-section radius 
>> and finally it's machine polished to a mirror finish. Two flat-head 
>> stainless M3 bolts with flat washers, star washers, nuts and a leather 
>> washer for the bridge are included in the price.
>>
>>
>> $17 on velolumino.com 
>> 
>>
>> Anton, who is working on yet more fender installation widgets...
>>
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[RBW] Re: Clem L (low bar) for longer rides?

[Roberta]

An early '90s (as far as I was able to research) Specialized Crossroads.  I 
bought it used, so most likely it has original everything, except for the 
saddle.

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 7:40:34 AM UTC-4, Les Lammers wrote:
>
> A Cheviot or Clem L would be fine for the riding you want to do. There are 
> many handlebars to choose from that are not too upright. What are you 
> riding now?
>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Errandonnee 2017 - any other Riv Riders onboard?

[Christopher Cote]

I had a good start on Monday, but in reality, I don't run 12 errands (by 
bike or otherwise) a month, let alone in 12 days. Sounds like fun, but I 
think I'll mostly be a spectator.

Chris


On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 12:06:31 PM UTC-4, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> Chasing Mailboxes' recent announcement of the Errandonnee 2017 caught me 
> just right, so I ended up crafting a quick Control Card and joining in. 
>  Saw a few familiar names crop up in the reports to date, but was wondering 
> if there were any other RBW-riders engaging in this low-key, errand-based 
> Ran(or Run)donnee.
>
> If you have no idea what I'm talking about, check out the description here:
>
>
> https://chasingmailboxes.com/2017/03/16/the-errandonnee-2017-out-like-a-lion/
>
> Although the Earth-based requirement may preclude some from taking part, 
> the barrier to entry is pretty darned low, and the benefits deeply felt. 
>  Plus, you can even wait until the last day to start.  Which is good for 
> those slackers onboard.
>
> Since my cyclofiend blog is kinda dusty, I just was throwing images up on 
> my Instagram & twitter feeds:
>
> https://www.instagram.com/cyclofiend/
>
> https://twitter.com/cyclofiend
>
> and of course on the FB Errandonnee page - 
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/730530977068469/
>
> Look for the #errandonnee and hope to see you on the virtual route!
>
> - Jim
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[RBW] Errandonnee 2017 - any other Riv Riders onboard?

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Chasing Mailboxes' recent announcement of the Errandonnee 2017 caught me 
just right, so I ended up crafting a quick Control Card and joining in. 
 Saw a few familiar names crop up in the reports to date, but was wondering 
if there were any other RBW-riders engaging in this low-key, errand-based 
Ran(or Run)donnee.

If you have no idea what I'm talking about, check out the description here:

https://chasingmailboxes.com/2017/03/16/the-errandonnee-2017-out-like-a-lion/

Although the Earth-based requirement may preclude some from taking part, 
the barrier to entry is pretty darned low, and the benefits deeply felt. 
 Plus, you can even wait until the last day to start.  Which is good for 
those slackers onboard.

Since my cyclofiend blog is kinda dusty, I just was throwing images up on 
my Instagram & twitter feeds:

https://www.instagram.com/cyclofiend/

https://twitter.com/cyclofiend

and of course on the FB Errandonnee page - 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/730530977068469/

Look for the #errandonnee and hope to see you on the virtual route!

- Jim

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[RBW] New Batch of Rosco Mixtes - Maybe

[Charlie R]

I received a Rivendell email yesterday about another possible batch of the 
Rosco sort of mountain mixte.  Sounds like the same as the last batch with 
maybe a different color.  Cost is estimated to be $800 without bottom 
bracket, headset or seatpost.  Grant said he needs a commitment for 8 and 
money will necessary at the end of June.  

I'm on the list...

Charlie

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Re: [RBW] The next Velo Lumino product: rear fender reinforcement plate

[Eric Norris]

The advantage is purely aesthetic-trying to replicate the original Singer part. 
I'll look into getting a piece of an old fender somewhere.

Thanks!

--Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
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Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Anton Tutter  wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> I order all my stock pre-cut and drilled and then polished. I'd have to do a 
> special run of a single-hole version, and I have to order quite a few to make 
> them cost-effective.
> 
> Aside from aesthetics, what is the practical advantage, if any, to having as 
> single hole? I would think it would act less as a strain relief in this way. 
> It would still "cradle" the fender, but I would imagine its overall net 
> benefit is less.
> 
> If you're good with tin-snips and have a spare fender you can use as a donor, 
> you could cut a few out and polish them.
> 
> Anton
> velolumino.com
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 12:22:13 AM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>> Anton:
>> 
>> I wonder if you can make one of these for me with just the center hole, to 
>> match the reinforcement on my Singer:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Anton Tutter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Velo Lumino is expanding into the "fender installation widget" space. The 
>>> first of several widgets in this category is a reinforcement plate inspired 
>>> by the old French constructeurs. It reduces fender stress fatigue at a 
>>> common failure location by reducing localized stress risers. And it looks 
>>> damn fine while doing it. Photo below is on a VO Zeppelin 650B fender. The 
>>> plate is thin enough (0.64mm) that is doesn't noticeably alter the fender 
>>> line of existing fender installations, and its shape can be tweaked by hand 
>>> to follow different fender contours.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It's cut from aluminum sheet stock using water jet technology. It's then 
>>> pressed onto a curved form to create a nominal fender cross-section radius 
>>> and finally it's machine polished to a mirror finish. Two flat-head 
>>> stainless M3 bolts with flat washers, star washers, nuts and a leather 
>>> washer for the bridge are included in the price.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> $17 on velolumino.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anton, who is working on yet more fender installation widgets...
>>> 
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[RBW] Re: FS SRAM X7 GXP 10 speed double crankset

[Bruce Smitham]

Bump- how about $70 for the crankset plus shipping CONUS and I'll include 
the front derailleur?

Bruce

On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 5:56:14 PM UTC-8, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>
> Bump- how about $75 or best offer plus shipping?
>
> On Sunday, February 19, 2017 at 4:24:07 PM UTC-8, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>>
>> SRAM X7 GXP 10 speed double crankset 175mm arms 42/28 rings in great 
>> condition with less than 60 miles. Few scratches as seen in pictures $85 
>> plus shipping CONUS.
>>
>> Bruce in San Diego
>>
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Re: [RBW] The next Velo Lumino product: rear fender reinforcement plate

[Anton Tutter]

Hi Eric,

I order all my stock pre-cut and drilled and then polished. I'd have to do 
a special run of a single-hole version, and I have to order quite a few to 
make them cost-effective.

Aside from aesthetics, what is the practical advantage, if any, to having 
as single hole? I would think it would act less as a strain relief in this 
way. It would still "cradle" the fender, but I would imagine its overall 
net benefit is less.

If you're good with tin-snips and have a spare fender you can use as a 
donor, you could cut a few out and polish them.

Anton
velolumino.com


On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 12:22:13 AM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Anton:
>
> I wonder if you can make one of these for me with just the center hole, to 
> match the reinforcement on my Singer:
>
>
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> On Mar 19, 2016, at 7:19 AM, Anton Tutter  
> wrote:
>
> Velo Lumino is expanding into the "fender installation widget" space. The 
> first of several widgets in this category is a reinforcement plate inspired 
> by the old French constructeurs. It reduces fender stress fatigue at a 
> common failure location by reducing localized stress risers. And it looks 
> damn fine while doing it. Photo below is on a VO Zeppelin 650B fender. The 
> plate is thin enough (0.64mm) that is doesn't noticeably alter the fender 
> line of existing fender installations, and its shape can be tweaked by hand 
> to follow different fender contours.
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> It's cut from aluminum sheet stock using water jet technology. It's then 
> pressed onto a curved form to create a nominal fender cross-section radius 
> and finally it's machine polished to a mirror finish. Two flat-head 
> stainless M3 bolts with flat washers, star washers, nuts and a leather 
> washer for the bridge are included in the price.
>
>
> $17 on velolumino.com 
> 
>
> Anton, who is working on yet more fender installation widgets...
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Sugino XD2 or XD600 triple 170mm

[Philip Kim]

yup, i know i've bought two frames from riv directly and two frames through 
dealers. not to mention the bags...


On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 9:56:56 AM UTC-4, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> One of the great thing about this list IMO is that the selling and trading 
> often results in $ that goes back to Rivendell eventually though new bike 
> purchases/framesets/parts etc.  Whatever works and serves the specific 
> needs/wants or each "Just Rider" works within Grant's Rivendell Philosophy.
>
> Ryan Hankinson
> West Michigan
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[RBW] Anything unusual needed for an Appaloosa build?

[Bob Lovejoy]

While waiting for e-mails with news of frame shipments and delivery dates, 
I am putting together pieces and parts for building up a 58cm Appaloosa.  I 
think I have or am collecting most things but it dawned on me that I might 
need the extra long rear derailleur cable that Riv sells, maybe other 
things that I have not thought about.  I know I will need two chains for 
instance, or at least 1.x chains for the long chainstays.

Is there anything else that anyone has run into on an Appaloosa or Clem 
build that surprised them?  I am thinking not but thought it worth asking.

Anyway, all help appreciated!

Bob Lovejoy
Galesburg, IL

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[RBW] Re: Red Rosco

[Eli Queen]

Ryan: Nope, not me, I'm in the north east. 51cm is a good fit for a 
shortish guy too ;)

masmojo: Looking good.

I'll pull the stand out of the basement and take some photos.

- Eli

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[RBW] Re: Transporting a fendered tandem

[Julian Westerhout]

Daniel, 

I just looked at the video on the Rockymounts website -- it appears that 
the tandem is actually higher than on the Yakima. The Yakima holds the 
tandem at the stoker's bottom bracket, the Rockymounts holds the rear wheel 
in a tray. It appears to me that this makes the bike higher, which should 
make it possible for a fendered bike to fit well. 

I'd give them a call or email and ask. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 5:37:40 AM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Curious what folks recommend for carrying a fendered tandem on a car. 
>
> Considering the rocky Mounts R4 rack but am concerned that the front 
> fender will preclude mounting. Is this often the case with roof racks like 
> these? I've always used hitch racks with bikes so have no experience with 
> racks up top. 
>
> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> Best,
> D. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Bill Lindsay]

No it does not take a 27.2mm seatpost. The frameset comes with a 26.8mm 
seatpost.  Yes, they are Taiwan made.  

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Sugino XD2 or XD600 triple 170mm

[Abcyclehank]

One of the great thing about this list IMO is that the selling and trading 
often results in $ that goes back to Rivendell eventually though new bike 
purchases/framesets/parts etc.  Whatever works and serves the specific 
needs/wants or each "Just Rider" works within Grant's Rivendell Philosophy.

Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] Re: Transporting a fendered tandem

[Julian Westerhout]

Daniel, 

I'm not sure about the Rockymounts R4, but with the Yakima Sidewinder and 
standard length SKS fenders it worked fine. I've attached a photo from 2011 
of our Trek tandem on the roof of our Focus sedan. These days we have a 
Subaru Forester and a Bilenky with S couplers, so the bike rides inside. 

I think the key is the height of the fork mount. Is it possible to try the 
rack at a shop before buying? 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Wednesday, March 22, 2017 at 5:37:40 AM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Curious what folks recommend for carrying a fendered tandem on a car. 
>
> Considering the rocky Mounts R4 rack but am concerned that the front 
> fender will preclude mounting. Is this often the case with roof racks like 
> these? I've always used hitch racks with bikes so have no experience with 
> racks up top. 
>
> Thanks for the suggestions.
>
> Best,
> D. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Sugino XD2 or XD600 triple 170mm

[Kieran J]

Since this is the Riv board, I was focused on finding a used set from a 
lister rather than a cut-rate deal from a 3rd party online vendor. 

Looks like I've done so. Thanks, list!

KJ


On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 10:11:56 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Looking for a good example of this crankset in 170mm length. New or close 
> to it. 
> Should have 46/36/26t rings or thereabouts.
>
> Anyone have a spare one? Let me know.
>
> Kieran
> Toronto, Canada
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Photos of new silver Joe Appaloosa color

[Ashwath Akirekadu]

Hey Congrats!  And good choice!

I'm picking up my 51cm Green Appaloosa frame this Saturday.   Can't wait to
build it.




On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:34 PM Stuart Lovinggood 
wrote:

> I love the silver cranks, too. Especially the logo. Put my order in for a
> 55 in silver earlier today. Sold two bikes and with the money I got from
> that, was just $5 short of the Appaloosa + shipping.
>
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 5:38:31 PM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Yes the silver cranks are nice, well worth the price ino
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[RBW] Re: Wide drops for loaded Hunqapillar

[Philip Kim]

Drew,

I went from jones loop bar (which were a bit too wide for me) to the Map 
ahearne bars (which were not "aero" enough on long rides) to RM-03s on my 
Hunq. The RM-03 need to be tilted up a bit, and best with a dirt drop stem 
up high. I had the 58cm handlebars, with 80mm dirt drop stem on my 48cm 
Hunq. I really liked the bars for pavement to dirt rides. The hoods are a 
bit more "aero" and comfy, but a bit more upright. And when the wind hits 
the drops are super comfy. You can ride on the hoods like modern ergo with 
your hands more around the brake lever, and you can also ride with your 
hands and palms fully splayed out resting on the ramps.

Here is a pic of my Hunq with dirt drops:




Recommend getting the IRD power ratchet brake levers 
 
or 
gevenalle type shifters. The drops flare out a bit too far to make bar end 
shifting very convenient. Brake is super easy from the drops as well as 
hoods. Bars rode great on the pavement and dirt, and fun for technical, but 
for really technical, i didn't like my body leaning forward that much, 
which is the compromise for all dirt drop bars really.

hope that helps

On Saturday, March 18, 2017 at 10:06:13 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>
> What if i break up my original question into 2 hopefully easier questions.
>
> are there any dirt drops where the hood position is comfortable and you 
> can use the brakes and they come in 25.4/26mm clamp size?
>
> are there any shallow regular drops that come in the 52-55cm range and 
> have a 25.4/26mm clamp?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Sugino XD2 or XD600 triple 170mm

[Jim Bronson]

The product description on Tree Fort Bikes is interesting.  I have used
these with 9 speed without issue.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Belopsky  wrote:

> Keiran, ignore my email. TreeFort sells it for cheap enough, cheap that I
> wouldn't sell mine.. hah
>
> http://www.treefortbikes.com/product/333222346780/1334/
> Sugino-XD600-26-and-36-and-46-Triple.html?utm_source=google&
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Sugino XD2 or XD600 triple 170mm

[Belopsky]

Keiran, ignore my email. TreeFort sells it for cheap enough, cheap that I 
wouldn't sell mine.. hah

http://www.treefortbikes.com/product/333222346780/1334/Sugino-XD600-26-and-36-and-46-Triple.html?utm_source=google_medium=cpc=scplp3332223467802676_intid=3332223467802676=CjwKEAjwwcjGBRDj-P7TwcinyBkSJADymblTvgNY2epLBKCCzV79P0CHpVpnhF_1M2uYB_5T9iR7choCseHw_wcB

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Sugino XD2 or XD600 triple 170mm

[Jim Bronson]

I miss ebikestop.com, they were selling the XD600 for $88 for the longest
time.  I got 2 of them during that timeperiod.

I guess they weren't making enough profit, they closed.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 7:18 AM, Belopsky  wrote:

> I have a perfect one from my Grand Bois. XD600 triple in 170mm. Question
> is how much you'd like to pay.
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 10:11:56 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Looking for a good example of this crankset in 170mm length. New or close
>> to it.
>> Should have 46/36/26t rings or thereabouts.
>>
>> Anyone have a spare one? Let me know.
>>
>> Kieran
>> Toronto, Canada
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Christopher Cote]

Thanks! I've been thinking about how this frame is a ton of bang for the buck. 
Does it take a 27.2mm seatpost? These are made in Taiwan, right?

Chris

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Sugino XD2 or XD600 triple 170mm

[Belopsky]

I have a perfect one from my Grand Bois. XD600 triple in 170mm. Question is 
how much you'd like to pay.



On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 10:11:56 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Looking for a good example of this crankset in 170mm length. New or close 
> to it. 
> Should have 46/36/26t rings or thereabouts.
>
> Anyone have a spare one? Let me know.
>
> Kieran
> Toronto, Canada
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem L (low bar) for longer rides?

[Les Lammers]

A Cheviot or Clem L would be fine for the riding you want to do. There are 
many handlebars to choose from that are not too upright. What are you 
riding now?

On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 8:09:19 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>
> For those of you who own this, how do you feel about Clem for longer 
> "exercise" rides--40-50 miles-- that is NOT touring.That is, I won't 
> load the bike with anything other than what I need on a one day 
> jaunt--lunch, flat kit, water, windbreaker, etc.  I don't want a slog of a 
> bike. (yes, I do realize that the "engine" is most important, but this 
> engine has two bikes and I go faster on one vs. the other.)  Most of the 
> area is flat, but in the city park and in some of the suburbs, it is hilly.
>
> *I did consider a used Cheviot, but didn't get the sense that it was a 
> "long ride" bike-- a bit too upright.*  I could be wrong.
>
> I'm considering a Clem L so I can do (and want to do more often) longer 
> exercise rides.   My minimum ride is 12.5 miles (1 hour) , but I like to go 
> 25 miles (2 hours) each weekend day.  Once or twice a month I'd like to do 
> a longer ride. 
>
> Thanks,
> Roberta, PBH 82.5, 57 YO, trying to get into better health
>

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[RBW] Transporting a fendered tandem

[Daniel Jackson]

Curious what folks recommend for carrying a fendered tandem on a car. 

Considering the rocky Mounts R4 rack but am concerned that the front fender 
will preclude mounting. Is this often the case with roof racks like these? I've 
always used hitch racks with bikes so have no experience with racks up top. 

Thanks for the suggestions.

Best,
D. 

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