[RBW] Re: Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[drew]

what's the deal with pros closet?

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[RBW] tires for clem

[Davey Two Shoes]

Hi everyone
I' love my clem (riv stock build) but I'd like to upgrade the tires from 
the 1.75 kendas to something bigger and more supple. In a perfect world 
Compass would make a 27.5 x 2.3 tire but thats not happening. What are some 
of you clem riders running?
Thanks
Dave

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[RBW] Re: Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[Justin, Oakland]

Oh lord I didn't even see that it was a Pro's Closet listing. 

I'm so so sorry. 

-J

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[RBW] i need a new helmet

[bo richardson]

i was looking at an abus from bike 24. but i always learn so much fromthe list.
i prefers simple not aero
round is good
mid price
any suggestions?

thanks so much

bo

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[RBW] Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[Joe Bernard]

I think time and quantity have knocked the prices down a bit. RBW has been 
around for 23 years now and have sold a lot of frames. Anybody who wants one 
can find one used now, and they expect a significant discount over the new 
ones. 

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[RBW] Re: Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

It's the extremely rare, some would say mythical, 1992 model, according to 
The Pros Closet.

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 5:21:57 PM UTC-4, Justin, Oakland wrote:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/382050555993
>
> Not mine but wowza, that's a dream build.
>
> Good deal for the BiN price IMO.
>
> -Justin
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: tektro brakes, shifters, swift ind panniers, silver shifters, sam hillborne F/F/HS and more

[franklyn]

Hi, Jeff,

I will take the deore trigger shifters and the half mitts, if they are 
still available.

Franklyn

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 5:47:03 PM UTC-7, Jeff wrote:
>
> I'm getting close to new bike day and ready to clean out some extraneous 
> items. I think I'm advertising friendly prices, but I'm open to suggestions 
> that I might not be. Make an offer. I'll discount multiple items to a 
> single destination.
>
> Pictures here: 
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6fp2AmAnZgmLUJTRnJ5NXJGSFE
>
> 1. Tektro R556 brakes, bike worth, used, great shape, reasonable pad left, 
> recessed nut, nut on front is currently a sheldon fender nut, which I hope 
> to keep, but if I can't find a regular nut, you get the sheldon fender nut 
> - $30 shipped
>
> 2. Tektro Novela disc brake calipers and levers - rode these briefly as 
> the stock brakes on a Breezer Beltway - bikes worth - $30 shipped
>
> 3. Swift Industries canvas rolltop panniers, brown and burgundy with high 
> wheeler graphic - $100 shipped
>
> 4. Rivendell Silver shifters on bar end pods - $45 shipped
>
> 5. Shimano Deore trigger shifters, 3x9 - $10 shipped
>
> 6. Campy Centaur FD - $15 shipped
>
> 7. Large Bike Burrito tool roll, brown outside, orange inside - $20 shipped
>
> 8. big pedals, I think these are sunlite - $10 shipped
>
> 9. Rivendell half mitts - these are weird, never used, kicked around my 
> workshop for a few years - $10 shipped.
>
> 10. 60cm Sam Hillborne, frame/fork/headset - I've advertised this here 
> previously as a complete bike and partial build. I ended up pulling the 
> parts off for a different build. I'm the second owner, it's got its share 
> of paint chips and scrapes. There's a paint chip on the seat tube that I've 
> now confirmed to be a small dent - it came to me with this chip/dent and I 
> always thought it just a chip and thought nothing of it. After unbuilding 
> it recently and shining a light down the seat tube I confirmed it's a small 
> depression in the tube. I've ridden this fully loaded touring offroad for 
> many miles and ridden year round as a commuter and long-distance 
> day-tripper . I'll take more pics and post if you like. Sam needs a new 
> home as my bike stable is going to be over-capacity with a new bike 
> expected this week. $450 plus Bike Flights shipping.
>
> -Jeff
> Silver Spring, MD
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Jandd, Sackville, Nitto Bullmoose, Carradice

[drew]

Carradice and jandd frame bag are gone. After many nibbles, and little follow 
thru, All other items remain. 

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[RBW] FS: tektro brakes, shifters, swift ind panniers, silver shifters, sam hillborne F/F/HS and more

[Jeff Lesperance]

I'm getting close to new bike day and ready to clean out some extraneous
items. I think I'm advertising friendly prices, but I'm open to suggestions
that I might not be. Make an offer. I'll discount multiple items to a
single destination.

Pictures here: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6fp2AmAnZgmLUJTRnJ5NXJGSFE

1. Tektro R556 brakes, bike worth, used, great shape, reasonable pad left,
recessed nut, nut on front is currently a sheldon fender nut, which I hope
to keep, but if I can't find a regular nut, you get the sheldon fender nut
- $30 shipped

2. Tektro Novela disc brake calipers and levers - rode these briefly as the
stock brakes on a Breezer Beltway - bikes worth - $30 shipped

3. Swift Industries canvas rolltop panniers, brown and burgundy with high
wheeler graphic - $100 shipped

4. Rivendell Silver shifters on bar end pods - $45 shipped

5. Shimano Deore trigger shifters, 3x9 - $10 shipped

6. Campy Centaur FD - $15 shipped

7. Large Bike Burrito tool roll, brown outside, orange inside - $20 shipped

8. big pedals, I think these are sunlite - $10 shipped

9. Rivendell half mitts - these are weird, never used, kicked around my
workshop for a few years - $10 shipped.

10. 60cm Sam Hillborne, frame/fork/headset - I've advertised this here
previously as a complete bike and partial build. I ended up pulling the
parts off for a different build. I'm the second owner, it's got its share
of paint chips and scrapes. There's a paint chip on the seat tube that I've
now confirmed to be a small dent - it came to me with this chip/dent and I
always thought it just a chip and thought nothing of it. After unbuilding
it recently and shining a light down the seat tube I confirmed it's a small
depression in the tube. I've ridden this fully loaded touring offroad for
many miles and ridden year round as a commuter and long-distance
day-tripper . I'll take more pics and post if you like. Sam needs a new
home as my bike stable is going to be over-capacity with a new bike
expected this week. $450 plus Bike Flights shipping.

-Jeff
Silver Spring, MD

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[RBW] Re: PSA 53cm atlantis on ebay - $800

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'm in the "for $700 that's a steal" camp and you did a great build.   



On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 2:47:44 PM UTC-5, adam leibow wrote:
>
> built this up for my girlfriend. it's her graduation (from grad school) 
> present. i am jealous of her now.
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Friday, April 21, 2017 at 1:12:51 PM UTC-7, Sky Coulter wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://m.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Atlantis-Frameset-53cm-Touring-Bike-26-Bottom-Bracket-Headset-/252885392566?hash=item3ae124dcb6%3Ag%3APREAAOSw5UZY-izk&_trkparms=pageci%253A98fff8c5-26ce-11e7-8844-74dbd180b952%257Cparentrq%253A92235da015b0a847a52d5bcefffbd313%257Ciid%253A2
>>
>> No affiliation, but seems an alright price
>>
>> Sky in new west
>>
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[RBW] Re: PSA 53cm atlantis on ebay - $800

[adam leibow]

homeboy def coulda sold this for more after a cleaning and some better 
pictures. i aint complainin tho. rides (and wheelies) like a dream. 

On Friday, April 21, 2017 at 1:12:51 PM UTC-7, Sky Coulter wrote:
>
>
> http://m.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Atlantis-Frameset-53cm-Touring-Bike-26-Bottom-Bracket-Headset-/252885392566?hash=item3ae124dcb6%3Ag%3APREAAOSw5UZY-izk&_trkparms=pageci%253A98fff8c5-26ce-11e7-8844-74dbd180b952%257Cparentrq%253A92235da015b0a847a52d5bcefffbd313%257Ciid%253A2
>
> No affiliation, but seems an alright price
>
> Sky in new west
>
>

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[RBW] Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[Justin, Oakland]

I guess I'm out of touch. Resale on classic Rivs seems to be dropping. That's 
sad. But it makes me know I'll keep ahold of my Saluki for longer then. 

-J

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[RBW] Re: PSA 53cm atlantis on ebay - $800

[Joe Bernard]

Right?? It looks like a completely different frame!

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[RBW] Re: PSA 53cm atlantis on ebay - $800

[Johnny Alien]

Holy crap that cleaned up well. Based on that my new opinion is that you stole 
it. 

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[RBW] Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[Johnny Alien]

It's been up there for awhile now. Very nice. Based on previous sales it's 
several hundred too high. I am shocked no one has made a decent offer yet 
though. 

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[RBW] Beautiful Atlantis on EBay

[justin . august]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/382050555993

Not mine but wowza, that's a dream build.

Good deal for the BiN price IMO.

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: FS: Pass 'n' Stow rack

[drew]

I think a lot of us did

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Hubbuhubbuhs are here!

[Steve Palincsar]

I agree.  And then, there's the issue of the cable having to match the 
fitting on the actuation device.  At the brake, of course, it's held by 
a pinch bolt, but at the lever it's a made-on end that fits a receptacle 
in the lever.  But the important thing is, this has been done since time 
immemorial with no problems.



On 05/07/2017 02:55 PM, René Sterental wrote:
As I've been doing some research on the subject, it's apparent that 
this is just how people have been setting up their drag brakes 
forever, at least as far back as I've been able to research, which is 
several decades. Remember, it's not that you have to press hard to 
stop the bike, you just need to pull the brake lever to get some 
friction on the disc. Drum brakes which I think need a higher level of 
force compared to large disc brake rotors have been set up this way 
with no adverse issues.


Perhaps someone else knows more?Fed

René

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 11:43 AM Daniel Jackson 
> 
wrote:


Have we already had the discussion about the relative safety of
using a shifter cable to actuate a mechanical drag disc brake?



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Re: [Ext] Re: [RBW] Re: The Hubbuhubbuhs are here!

[Bill Lindsay]

Maiden voyage today. My son wanted to meet friends at Bart for a Berkeley 
adventure. So we rode across the east bay hills and dropped through the 
cemetery. Then I did a grocery run and rode up the hill solo. It was really 
pleasant. It's amazing to be on a tandem that rides like a Rivendell but there 
you are.  

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[RBW] Re: Free bike parts: Two sets of 3x9 grip shifters and Pletscher pannier rails

[Bill Lindsay]

Pannier rails are taken. Two sets of 3x9 grip shifters available 

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Hubbuhubbuhs are here!

[Julian Westerhout]

Daniel, 

Are you concerned about the shifter cable not being robust enough, or are 
you concerned about the use of a shift lever instead of a brake lever 
(possible cable pull length)? 

If the former, I do not think it's an issue, as a drag brake is not 
subjected to the repeated hard forces of regular brakes -- the intent of 
the drag brake is to scrub speed, not stop you in a hurry (and is not used 
that often, in my experience). If the latter, in my experience you'll have 
plenty of cable pull from a shifter. 

If something else is worrying you, what is it? 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, Il  

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 1:43:40 PM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Have we already had the discussion about the relative safety of using a 
> shifter cable to actuate a mechanical drag disc brake?

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Re: [RBW] WTB Map Ahearne Bar

[Andrew Huston]

Still looking for one. Anybody? 

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[RBW] Re: PSA 53cm atlantis on ebay - $800

[adam leibow]

built this up for my girlfriend. it's her graduation (from grad school) 
present. i am jealous of her now.




On Friday, April 21, 2017 at 1:12:51 PM UTC-7, Sky Coulter wrote:
>
>
> http://m.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Atlantis-Frameset-53cm-Touring-Bike-26-Bottom-Bracket-Headset-/252885392566?hash=item3ae124dcb6%3Ag%3APREAAOSw5UZY-izk&_trkparms=pageci%253A98fff8c5-26ce-11e7-8844-74dbd180b952%257Cparentrq%253A92235da015b0a847a52d5bcefffbd313%257Ciid%253A2
>
> No affiliation, but seems an alright price
>
> Sky in new west
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Pass 'n' Stow rack

[adam leibow]

I private messaged u

On Saturday, May 6, 2017 at 6:28:15 PM UTC-7, Patrick Shea wrote:
>
> Used, black, comes with a new spare Y-mount. You could spray this rack 
> with any color you'd like and it would look brand new. That said, it's 
> perfectly fine, as is.
>
> No wire routing.
>
> $75 plus shipping.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Patrick
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Re: [Ext] Re: [RBW] Re: The Hubbuhubbuhs are here!

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

DOUBLE APPROVE TANDEM!

Sent from my iPhone

On May 6, 2017, at 10:05 PM, Ren? Sterental 
> wrote:

Thank you all for the compliments!

I had no idea there was a brown cabling option, but like you, now everyone in 
my house is pretty excited with the blue cabling. Let's see how if once all the 
cables are run, the effect is the same or it becomes overwhelming.

Can't wait for the rest of the parts to arrive.

Ren?

On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 4:20 PM Julian Westerhout 
> wrote:
Ren?,

Your build-so-far looks terrific!

We're going with B17 and Flyer S in honey. I've been looking for cream cable 
housing with no luck (anyone know of any?) -- I would like to match the decals, 
but am considering going with Velo-Orange's brown or perhaps a silver.

I must admit I sort of like the boldness of the blue on yours -- despite 
myself!   :)

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL


On Saturday, May 6, 2017 at 6:06:35 PM UTC-5, Ren? wrote:
Yeah, the first time I saw an orange bike with a tan Brooks saddle I had an 
epiphany. They looked so awesome. Until that moment, and still today, almost 
every orange frame I see has black parts. It was the same when I saw the first 
silver frame with tan saddle and handlebar leather tape. Which is why my custom 
is configured that way.

This is certainly an awesome project, and these frames are so cool!

Ren?
On Sat, May 6, 2017 at 2:12 PM 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 wrote:

Wow. These have to be the coolest, funnestest tandems ever. Big fat tires, 
double head badges, smiley faces, moosey stoker bars, Riv ride feel, lots of 
rider size adaptability, nice craftsmanship. Wow. Ren?, nice job on the build 
so far. The tan saddles look great. I try to stay away from too much black on 
the orange builds. Because, Halloween.


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[RBW] Re: Free bike parts: Two sets of 3x9 grip shifters and Pletscher pannier rails

[Deacon Patrick]

"... ill conceived and clumsily implemented attempt to ..."

Oh dear. That could be me. I do that all the time.

"... modify it."

Oh. Whew. Nope. I'm not good enough to modify bike stuff intentionally. 
Unintentionally, absolutely. Grin.

Thank you for helping assure me, Bill. I approve! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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>
> The rack died in an ill conceived and clumsily implemented attempt to 
> modify it.  I snapped off one of the tabs that anchors a strut. 

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[RBW] On rear racks for the Hubbuhubbuh...

[René Sterental]

I just realized that none of my racks, possibly with the exception of the
R14 will fit on my Hubbuhubbuh due to its disc brake. I did a quick search
online, and found what I consider ugly black disc compatible rear racks,
with the exception of the Tubus Disco Rear Rack, which can be found in
silver in the UK. However, I can't tell if it's the version that is painted
in silver and has a coating on top, which I dislike, or true silver metal
like the Tubus Nova (unlikely because that one is stainless steel) or
chromoly like the Nitto racks.

I have no urgent need for a rear rack right away, and similar to what Bill
did, was planning on installing the Nitto Mini F32 so I can add a basket or
just a small front bag, plus the Tubus Nova lowriders, where I can load
front/small panniers. Will need to check how the handling is affected, if
at all.

As stated, for the type of riding I'll be doing initially, with my wife,
children and friends, I won't need to carry a lot, and I plan on having
Carradice roll bags on each handlebar plus a Barley saddlebag, all
matching, of course... :-)

Anyway, this might be a consideration/concern for those of you getting
Hubbuhubbuhs and are planning to run the disc drag brake and want a silver
rack. There are plenty of black racks available with different pros and
cons, it's just that I don't like much like them.

Will let you know if the R14 fits, which would allow me to swap the Burley
for the large Sackville Saddlebag as necessary.

René

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[RBW] Re: Free bike parts: Two sets of 3x9 grip shifters and Pletscher pannier rails

[Bill Lindsay]

The rack died in an ill conceived and clumsily implemented attempt to modify 
it.  I snapped off one of the tabs that anchors a strut. 

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[RBW] FS 56 Quickbeam

[Andrew Huston]

An official RBW post. 
I have a near new classic single speed Rivendell Quickbeam 56cm. I bought this 
bike in eBay, single speed not suiting me. You will not see many bikes this 
clean. 
Nitto noodles with tektro interruptor levers, cane creek hoods
Nitto 90mm stem and seatpost
Araya rims on Suzue hubs
Sugino XD2 40/32
Jack Brown blue tires
Add ons: 2 more freewheels,  Brooks leather tool roll
$1500 shipped. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Hubbuhubbuhs are here!

[René Sterental]

As I've been doing some research on the subject, it's apparent that this is
just how people have been setting up their drag brakes forever, at least as
far back as I've been able to research, which is several decades. Remember,
it's not that you have to press hard to stop the bike, you just need to
pull the brake lever to get some friction on the disc. Drum brakes which I
think need a higher level of force compared to large disc brake rotors have
been set up this way with no adverse issues.

Perhaps someone else knows more?Fed

René

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 11:43 AM Daniel Jackson <
daniel.seth.jack...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Have we already had the discussion about the relative safety of using a
> shifter cable to actuate a mechanical drag disc brake?
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Hubbuhubbuhs are here!

[Daniel Jackson]

Have we already had the discussion about the relative safety of using a shifter 
cable to actuate a mechanical drag disc brake?

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[RBW] Re: Free bike parts: Two sets of 3x9 grip shifters and Pletscher pannier rails

[Deacon Patrick]

How'd the rack die?

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 12:24:37 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I have two sets of perfectly good 3x9 grip shifters in my Mountain Bike 
> Team stash, but none of "my kids" run 3x9 anymore.  Both have a ratcheting 
> (non-index) left shifter.  I also broke my Pletscher clem rack, and 
> salvaged the pannier rails off of it before putting the carcass in 
> recycling.  All are free to anybody who will use them
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Re: A Spring Ride with my Girls

[Deacon Patrick]

You're on to something here, Wayne. Our kids liked biking a lot more when 
we bought quality bikes. We plan on getting all of them into Rivs as soon 
as we can (guessing the Mixte-esque end size and letting them grow into 
them, starting about age 12-13. Until then we have a set 
of https://clearybikes.com they love and grow through.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 9:42:59 AM UTC-6, Wayne Naha wrote:
>
> On Saturday, May 6, 2017 at 11:20:29 PM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Wayne! A good chunk of my riding these days is with my 7-year-old, 
>> and it is so much fun.
>>
>
> Mark, you are so right, it is a lot of fun.  My youngest suggested that we 
> go ride again this morning, and so we went for another couple of miles.  We 
> saw some wild turkeys not twenty yards off in a field.  I do feel a little 
> sorry for the girls when we are going uphill.  They are having to stand to 
> pedal up the bigger hills, where I just comfortably shift to a lower gear. 
>  Then while going downhill, if not for riding the brakes, I would pass them 
> coasting while they pedal hard.  Maybe I should repack their wheel 
> bearings!  Still, what's all that youthful energy for, if not to spend it 
> pedaling furiously.
>

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[RBW] Free bike parts: Two sets of 3x9 grip shifters and Pletscher pannier rails

[Bill Lindsay]

I have two sets of perfectly good 3x9 grip shifters in my Mountain Bike 
Team stash, but none of "my kids" run 3x9 anymore.  Both have a ratcheting 
(non-index) left shifter.  I also broke my Pletscher clem rack, and 
salvaged the pannier rails off of it before putting the carcass in 
recycling.  All are free to anybody who will use them

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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RE: [RBW] Re: OTT: 10 speed X Wide Low(2x)?

[David F. Beach]

Kojaks flat less than any other tires I have.  I’m big (215 pounds) and ride 
over bad pavement.  I get very few flats with the Kojaks.  I get a few more 
flats with the Barlow Pass and Stampedes on my other bikes.  The Compass tires 
are still great tires, fun and fast to ride, but do seem to flat a bit more.  
Not a big deal.

Max

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Re: [RBW] Re: OTT: 10 speed X Wide Low(2x)?

[Patrick Moore]

They are nice tires, and if I did't have the 559 Compass Elk Pass
available, I'd be using the 559 X 1.35" version on the 2003. (I use the 406
bsd version on the Hon Solo.) They are one of the very few tires I've used
that roll *pretty* well, yet that can be ridden here in goatheadland
without sealant.

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 12:14 PM, reynoldslugs  wrote:

> Patrick asked/commented:
>
> On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 11:05:35 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Lots of bling on that bike! How do you like the Kojaks?
>>
>>
>>
> I love the kojaks.  They are one of my very favorite tires.  The other
> favorites are 38 mm Compass Barlow Passes.
>
> From yesterday:
>
>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/33703619223/in/dateposted-
> public/
>
> Max B
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Re: [RBW] Re: Renés orange Hubbuhubbuh

[René Sterental]

Thank you!

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 10:50 AM RichS  wrote:

> Olof, I'm in your camp on the orange color but yes, Rene's tandem looks
> amazing.
>
> Nice work Rene!!! Your HuaHubba looks like it'll be a ton of fun!
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>
>
> On Saturday, May 6, 2017 at 4:15:49 PM UTC-4, Olof Stroh wrote:
>
>> With bigger and bigger astonishment have I read all post with praise of
>> orange bicycles. Orange is not my choice for a bicycle, let´s put it that
>> way.
>>
>> But now, looking at Renés tandem. It´s right, it´s even awesome! If it
>> rides anything like it´s looks it´ll be a fantastic bike.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>>
>> Olof Stroh
>>
>> Uppsala Sweden
>>
>>
>>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com]
>> *On Behalf Of *René Sterental
>>
>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 06, 2017 9:25 PM
>>
> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>>
>
>> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: The Hubbuhubbuhs are here!
>>
>
>>
>> Progress photos:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/albums/72157680299609103/with/34450768136/
>>
>>
>>
>> After a long day at work getting, among other things the Betty ready to
>> ship to its new home (bittersweet), I came home in the evening and started
>> the build of my Hubbuhubbuh. By midnight, I had accomplished everything you
>> can see in the photos, where by the way, you can also see the awesome
>> decals it sports.
>>
>>
>>
>> Had not trouble anywhere, except on the installation of the rear disc
>> brake, where the rotor I had chosen rubs the Shimano adapter. If the mount
>> on the frame was a mm or two more outward, it would have worked perfectly.
>> This is a hope rotor that has the new isolation or whatever for the disc
>> rotor, probably total overkill for the tandem, but I had it from another
>> project. A standard flat rotor won't rub, so I'm getting one of those. No
>> biggie here.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Silver cranks are totally awesome. I had mixed feelings when I
>> ordered them based on the photos, but didn't feel like putting it all
>> together from scratch with Sugino cranes, and the René Herse I love on my
>> single bikes are just too expensive and unjustifiable at this time. But
>> when I took them out of the box and installed them, I was blown away. They
>> look fantastic and the guards are just so cool. You can see them in the
>> photos.
>>
>>
>>
>> You can also see where I'm planning to place the thumbie for the disc
>> brake, a place where it's easy to use yet doesn't get in the way of the
>> hand positions. I'm planning to use barend shifters on the tips of the
>> handlebar so I can easily shift without potentially compromising the
>> control of the bike, and so I keep the handlebars free. Over time, I'll see
>> if the preferences change.
>>
>>
>>
>> The new Bosco treadless handlebar is awesome as you can see. I was
>> planning on going with Chocos, but I think it'll stay this way, at least
>> for now. I had already purchased the Nitto high rise stem to use with the
>> Chocos, so when the new wider sleeved Chocos arrive, I'll get one to have
>> as backup alternative, just in case.
>>
>>
>>
>> Had a big family debate regarding the pedal and cabling colors. I think
>> the cabling will be blue as shown, white turned out to be too bright and
>> out of context, gray is boring and in most of my bikes anyway, so I was
>> concerned the blue cables would look too weird, but I think it looks good
>> and my wife and son liked them. So we'll see when it's all cabled. Got some
>> blue pedals as well, but they don't match the color of the cables and it's
>> just too much, so they're going back and will use silver pedals. These
>> Vault pedals are just my favorite. Wide, grippy, very comfortable.
>>
>>
>>
>> The saddles are a matching pair of B67 and B67S Select, so I'm hoping my
>> wife will love it. If necessary at first, I'll add some padded cover. Rides
>> are going to be very short initially anyway. She's quite nervous about it,
>> but I told her everything that went wrong would be my fault, and there
>> would be no pressure to ride on the street until she's absolutely ready for
>> it, however long it takes.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Compass 48mm wide tires look awesome and should ride like that as
>> well, based on how all my other Compass tires ride on my bikes. These,
>> however, are not the ultra-light, but rather the regular casing version
>> heeding Theo's advice at Compass tires. Just in case.
>>
>>
>>
>> The wheels are custom made by Rich using 4-cross (Grant was very
>> impressed) 40 spokes on White Industries hubs. They look amazing!
>>
>>
>>
>> As much as I would love to finish the build this weekend, I'm still
>> waiting for the polished Motolites, which hopefully will ship out next
>> week. I'm taking the fork to have the steerer tube cut, as I don't have the
>> special tool to do the straight cut and it's not worth getting it as this
>> is not a usual task I do at home.
>>
>>
>>
>> Got some special edition set of Carradice 

Re: [RBW] Re: OTT: 10 speed X Wide Low(2x)?

[reynoldslugs]

Patrick asked/commented:

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 11:05:35 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Lots of bling on that bike! How do you like the Kojaks?
>
>
>
I love the kojaks.  They are one of my very favorite tires.  The other 
favorites are 38 mm Compass Barlow Passes.

>From yesterday:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/33703619223/in/dateposted-public/

Max B

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[RBW] Re: A Spring Ride with my Girls

[Wayne Naha]

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 12:58:42 PM UTC-4, Jim D Massachusetts wrote:
>
> Nice story, nice family and nice pictures. I also have a green clem and it 
> is a great bike for my needs. Only thing, if you are waiting for the right 
> grips, the least you could do is put a little handlebar tape on. My hands 
> get cold looking at the bare grips.   Jim D (in still cool)   
>  Massachusetts
>

Yeah, it's not the best having the bare grips.  I've got ideas for some 
leather grips that should be pretty nifty, but have yet to execute that 
plan.  Still have to install fenders and racks, too. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: OTT: 10 speed X Wide Low(2x)?

[Patrick Moore]

Lots of bling on that bike! How do you like the Kojaks?

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 12:28 AM, reynoldslugs  wrote:

> I have that drivetrain on several bikes and it works fine.  Here it is on
> a Della Santa - 24-40 Sugino with SRAM 10-sp 11-34.  Functions perfectly:
>
> https://flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157629609638106
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[RBW] Re: Renés orange Hubbuhubbuh

[RichS]

Olof, I'm in your camp on the orange color but yes, Rene's tandem looks 
amazing. 

Nice work Rene!!! Your HuaHubba looks like it'll be a ton of fun!

Regards,
Richard

On Saturday, May 6, 2017 at 4:15:49 PM UTC-4, Olof Stroh wrote:
>
> With bigger and bigger astonishment have I read all post with praise of 
> orange bicycles. Orange is not my choice for a bicycle, let´s put it that 
> way.
>
> But now, looking at Renés tandem. It´s right, it´s even awesome! If it 
> rides anything like it´s looks it´ll be a fantastic bike.
>
> Good luck!
>
>  
>
> Olof Stroh
>
> Uppsala Sweden
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *René Sterental
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 06, 2017 9:25 PM
> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: The Hubbuhubbuhs are here!
>
>  
>
> Progress photos: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/albums/72157680299609103/with/34450768136/
>
>  
>
> After a long day at work getting, among other things the Betty ready to 
> ship to its new home (bittersweet), I came home in the evening and started 
> the build of my Hubbuhubbuh. By midnight, I had accomplished everything you 
> can see in the photos, where by the way, you can also see the awesome 
> decals it sports.
>
>  
>
> Had not trouble anywhere, except on the installation of the rear disc 
> brake, where the rotor I had chosen rubs the Shimano adapter. If the mount 
> on the frame was a mm or two more outward, it would have worked perfectly. 
> This is a hope rotor that has the new isolation or whatever for the disc 
> rotor, probably total overkill for the tandem, but I had it from another 
> project. A standard flat rotor won't rub, so I'm getting one of those. No 
> biggie here.
>
>  
>
> The Silver cranks are totally awesome. I had mixed feelings when I ordered 
> them based on the photos, but didn't feel like putting it all together from 
> scratch with Sugino cranes, and the René Herse I love on my single bikes 
> are just too expensive and unjustifiable at this time. But when I took them 
> out of the box and installed them, I was blown away. They look fantastic 
> and the guards are just so cool. You can see them in the photos.
>
>  
>
> You can also see where I'm planning to place the thumbie for the disc 
> brake, a place where it's easy to use yet doesn't get in the way of the 
> hand positions. I'm planning to use barend shifters on the tips of the 
> handlebar so I can easily shift without potentially compromising the 
> control of the bike, and so I keep the handlebars free. Over time, I'll see 
> if the preferences change.
>
>  
>
> The new Bosco treadless handlebar is awesome as you can see. I was 
> planning on going with Chocos, but I think it'll stay this way, at least 
> for now. I had already purchased the Nitto high rise stem to use with the 
> Chocos, so when the new wider sleeved Chocos arrive, I'll get one to have 
> as backup alternative, just in case.
>
>  
>
> Had a big family debate regarding the pedal and cabling colors. I think 
> the cabling will be blue as shown, white turned out to be too bright and 
> out of context, gray is boring and in most of my bikes anyway, so I was 
> concerned the blue cables would look too weird, but I think it looks good 
> and my wife and son liked them. So we'll see when it's all cabled. Got some 
> blue pedals as well, but they don't match the color of the cables and it's 
> just too much, so they're going back and will use silver pedals. These 
> Vault pedals are just my favorite. Wide, grippy, very comfortable.
>
>  
>
> The saddles are a matching pair of B67 and B67S Select, so I'm hoping my 
> wife will love it. If necessary at first, I'll add some padded cover. Rides 
> are going to be very short initially anyway. She's quite nervous about it, 
> but I told her everything that went wrong would be my fault, and there 
> would be no pressure to ride on the street until she's absolutely ready for 
> it, however long it takes.
>
>  
>
> The Compass 48mm wide tires look awesome and should ride like that as 
> well, based on how all my other Compass tires ride on my bikes. These, 
> however, are not the ultra-light, but rather the regular casing version 
> heeding Theo's advice at Compass tires. Just in case.
>
>  
>
> The wheels are custom made by Rich using 4-cross (Grant was very 
> impressed) 40 spokes on White Industries hubs. They look amazing!
>
>  
>
> As much as I would love to finish the build this weekend, I'm still 
> waiting for the polished Motolites, which hopefully will ship out next 
> week. I'm taking the fork to have the steerer tube cut, as I don't have the 
> special tool to do the straight cut and it's not worth getting it as this 
> is not a usual task I do at home.
>
>  
>
> Got some special edition set of Carradice tweed roll and Barley bags to 
> put the finishing touch on the Hubbuhubbuh when I'm done. My wife approved 
> of them when she saw them, and 

[RBW] Re: A Spring Ride with my Girls

[RichS]

Wayne, very sweet. Quality time with your girls. It's the best!

Regards,
Richard

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 11:42:59 AM UTC-4, Wayne Naha wrote:
>
> On Saturday, May 6, 2017 at 11:20:29 PM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Wayne! A good chunk of my riding these days is with my 7-year-old, 
>> and it is so much fun.
>>
>
> Mark, you are so right, it is a lot of fun.  My youngest suggested that we 
> go ride again this morning, and so we went for another couple of miles.  We 
> saw some wild turkeys not twenty yards off in a field.  I do feel a little 
> sorry for the girls when we are going uphill.  They are having to stand to 
> pedal up the bigger hills, where I just comfortably shift to a lower gear. 
>  Then while going downhill, if not for riding the brakes, I would pass them 
> coasting while they pedal hard.  Maybe I should repack their wheel 
> bearings!  Still, what's all that youthful energy for, if not to spend it 
> pedaling furiously.
>

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[RBW] Re: seeking Rivendell Saluki reviews...and maybe a lead

[RichS]

Matt, gorgeous bike! Congratulations on getting exactly what you wanted.

Happy riding,
Richard

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 10:19:51 AM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Super good-looking bike--that syringa vulgaris paint job is quite wynsum!
>
> On Saturday, May 6, 2017 at 3:57:34 PM UTC-4, Matt Beecher wrote:
>>
>> I apologize for bringing up an old thread, but just want to follow up 
>> with the group to thank everyone who responded.  As you can see in the 
>> photos, I didn't just get a Saluki, I got the very one that I had been 
>> thinking of.  Special thanks to Bill. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Matt
>>
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[RBW] Re: A Spring Ride with my Girls

[Jim D Massachusetts]

Nice story, nice family and nice pictures. I also have a green clem and it 
is a great bike for my needs. Only thing, if you are waiting for the right 
grips, the least you could do is put a little handlebar tape on. My hands 
get cold looking at the bare grips.   Jim D (in still cool)   
 Massachusetts


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[RBW] Re: A Spring Ride with my Girls

[Wayne Naha]

On Saturday, May 6, 2017 at 11:20:29 PM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> Thanks Wayne! A good chunk of my riding these days is with my 7-year-old, 
> and it is so much fun.
>

Mark, you are so right, it is a lot of fun.  My youngest suggested that we 
go ride again this morning, and so we went for another couple of miles.  We 
saw some wild turkeys not twenty yards off in a field.  I do feel a little 
sorry for the girls when we are going uphill.  They are having to stand to 
pedal up the bigger hills, where I just comfortably shift to a lower gear. 
 Then while going downhill, if not for riding the brakes, I would pass them 
coasting while they pedal hard.  Maybe I should repack their wheel 
bearings!  Still, what's all that youthful energy for, if not to spend it 
pedaling furiously.

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[RBW] Tires for Joe Appaloosa

[Stuart Lovinggood]

I ride Maxxis Torch, 700x53. They are fat and provide lots of squish at 120tpi. 
Could even work with B65 fenders. Have been proving themselves to be rather 
prone to flats, however. Little to no flat protection if something works its 
way between the treads. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Pair of Parigi Roubaix Tires BRAND NEW

[Eric Norris]

These are the clincher version, with tan sidewalls.

Eric N
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> On May 6, 2017, at 10:39 PM, Peter Adler  wrote:
> 
> Just to check: 
> If I recall correctly, Parigi-Roubaix was the name Challenge used for their 
> 700x27 tubulars, while Paris-Roubaix was the name for the clincher/"open 
> tubular" version. Or was it the other way around? In any case, Challenge has 
> since changed the branding - now everything's Paris-Roubaix. So, tubular or 
> clincher?
> Black or skinwall?
> Yes, they are a bear to install when new, and oversized rims don't help. I'd 
> have installed my set on my Bianchi gofast, if I didn't know that the 
> Ambrosio rims on that bike are an oversized (about 610mm) absolute nightmare 
> for tire installation.
> Peter "conflict-with inanimate objects-avoidant" Adler
> Berkeley, CA/USA
> 
>> On Saturday, May 6, 2017 at 6:30:03 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>> Bought these meaning to use them, but they’re a bit too tight of a fit on 
>> the rims they were supposed to go on. Brand new, never ridden.
>> 
>> These go for about $75 online—I’ll sell the pair for $120 shipped in the 
>> CONUS.
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Re: [RBW] Re: "Modern" Components on a Riv?

[Will Ashe]

Thanks for all the feedback everyone. I've been traveling and haven't had a 
chance to respond until now. Tomorrow I'll settle in and read all your 
responses more carefully. 

Will

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[RBW] Re: seeking Rivendell Saluki reviews...and maybe a lead

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Super good-looking bike--that syringa vulgaris paint job is quite wynsum!

On Saturday, May 6, 2017 at 3:57:34 PM UTC-4, Matt Beecher wrote:
>
> I apologize for bringing up an old thread, but just want to follow up with 
> the group to thank everyone who responded.  As you can see in the photos, I 
> didn't just get a Saluki, I got the very one that I had been thinking of. 
>  Special thanks to Bill. 
>
> Cheers,
> Matt
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[RBW] FS: Pass 'n' Stow rack

[johnb]

Still available?

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Re: [RBW] Re: seeking Rivendell Saluki reviews...and maybe a lead

[Deacon Patrick]

Ha! Isn't it amazing how different the bikes feel? I was also surprised by 
the difference between my Hunqapiller and Quickbeam, both unloaded. I've 
settled into a pattern of always leaving my panniers on the Hunqapillar, so 
the difference "unloaded" is even greater. Yet the difference in time to a 
destination in negligible in any real world terms. If I meet someone at the 
trail head 10 miles away, I know it takes me 90 minutes on either bike, so 
I allow 1:45 for a bit of a cushion. The primary difference isn't actual 
speed, it's the ride feel and experience.  

Love the color! We will have lilacs blooming here in about 3 weeks, so 
you'd fit right in! Ride with wild abandon!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 7:26:05 AM UTC-6, Matt Beecher wrote:
>
> So far, I am shocked at how much lighter the Saluki is over my Atlantis. 
>  While weight isn't a terribly significant factor for me, I expected them 
> to be the same.  It is nice to have lighter bikes when I have to carry them 
> up and out of my basement.  
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: seeking Rivendell Saluki reviews...and maybe a lead

[Matt Beecher]

I've gotten out for a few rides already, but hope to go on a longer one 
today.  So far, I am shocked at how much lighter the Saluki is over my 
Atlantis.  While weight isn't a terribly significant factor for me, I 
expected them to be the same.  It is nice to have lighter bikes when I have 
to carry them up and out of my basement.  

In terms of comfort, I would say the Saluki has been a bit more 
comfortable, but it also has better quality tires, which likely contributes 
significantly.  

Overall, I am very happy with the Saluki and would gladly recommend them.  

Cheers,
Matt

On Saturday, May 6, 2017 at 10:33:43 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> Congrats Matt!  I believe I'm very familiar with that particular 
> Purple-Luki and it's a fine bike.  You'll have to report back after a 
> couple rides and do in your own impressions of the Saluki!
>
> Tony
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Hubbuhubbuhs are here!

[Bob Lovejoy]

Such a perfect looking bike... well done!  Artistically and expertly 
done

Speaking of, not that I am an expert, I concur on the choice of the older 
XTR v-brakes.  I cobbled together an electric cargo bike, a standard level 
Yuba Mundo, one without disc brakes standard, and the shop I was working 
with highly recommended the XTR's - and they were absolutely right.  Even 
with the weight of the Yuba, I have never doubted the brakes.

Anyway, it brought a smile here to see your new bike...  

It is easy to see great fun in your future!

Bob

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Pair of Parigi Roubaix Tires BRAND NEW

[Steve Palincsar]

On 05/07/2017 01:39 AM, Peter Adler wrote:

Just to check:

 1. If I recall correctly, Parigi-Roubaix was the name Challenge used
for their 700x27 tubulars, while Paris-Roubaix was the name for
the clincher/"open tubular" version. Or was it the other way
around? In any case, Challenge has since changed the branding -
now /everything's /Paris-Roubaix. So, tubular or clincher?



The "open tubulars" I have down in the basement are labeled 
Parigi-Roubaix.  But, they're old, at least 5 years old.


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[RBW] Re: OTT: 10 speed X Wide Low(2x)?

[reynoldslugs]

I have that drivetrain on several bikes and it works fine.  Here it is on a 
Della Santa - 24-40 Sugino with SRAM 10-sp 11-34.  Functions perfectly:

https://flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157629609638106

Max

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