[RBW] Re: Short Riv product review, gloves

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I just got a pair of these along with my recent order. I like 'em good, too.

On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 7:15:15 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> These babies:
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/clothing/products/thinny-riding-gloves-fake-leather-grey
>
> Look great, work great, the sizing description is spot on, I have small 
> hands and bought the Large. They fit a bit loose (my preference), I 
> could've gone Medium. I've never had any luck with padded anything on the 
> bike; I'm a firm believer that if something hurts in the saddle/bar 
> connection, you need a better position, better saddle or better bars. 
>
> These unpadded gloves are fabulous at a fabulous price. The new fork crown 
> t-shirts are pretty swell, too. 
>
> Joe "not a paid spokesman, just a happy customer" Bernard
> Vallejo, CA. 
>
>

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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: New Riv Model - Newsletter

[Bill Lindsay]

I owned a Homer between 2010 and 2013 or thereabouts.  That was becoming my 
"serious" brevet bike, and I sold it to help do a full on no-holds-barred 
brevet bike build on a Rawland Stag (and that frameset has also moved along)

I have never owned a Hunqapillar.  I did own an Appaloosa for a little 
while, and sold that because the 650B Hunqapillar at Riv HQ was so awesome. 
 That slot in the stable was a knockabout camping bike that both me and my 
son can ride.  This mountain mixte fills that slot, so I will not likely be 
buying a Hunqapillar anytime soon.  Another way to put it is that this bike 
will be my "Manny bike".  Anytime we go out with Manny, this bike will go.  

I also used to own a 700c Atlantis, and sold it to a neighbor who begged me 
to sell it to him.  I was going to replace that with a 650b Atlantis, and 
likely still will, but since Grant has something new coming for the 
Atlantis, I'm waiting to see what that is.  

BL in EC


On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 5:53:54 PM UTC-7, dstein wrote:
>
> Maybe you're like me and you've cycled through some buying and selling, 
> though you had a hunqapillar and a homer for some reason.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 10, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Bill Lindsay  
> wrote:
>
> dstein asked:
>
> "Bill - how many rivendell's do you own now?!?! Can I have a couple ;)"
>
> I own two Rivendells , plus my portion of a tandem.  I have an 8 year old 
> Samuel Hillborne and a newish Rosco Bubbe road bike that serves as my daily 
> commuter.  This Mountain Mixte will make three.  
>
> BL in EC
>
>
> On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 3:20:51 PM UTC-7, dstein wrote:
>>
>> Bill - how many rivendell's do you own now?!?! Can I have a couple ;)
>>
>> I don't get the appeal of the upright mountain mixte. I guess it doesn't 
>> have to be upright, but they usually seem to be setup w/ albatross bars. To 
>> be honest though, I don't see the appeal of upright bars for anything other 
>> than a bike used to go a few miles here and there for commuting/errands/all 
>> rounder type stuff. Anything else (long road rides, trail rides, mixed 
>> rides, etc) I want something more aggressive (drops/albastache/riser/etc). 
>> What's the appeal of an upright mountain mixte? Is it just to have 
>> something different? Is it better/worse when things get real on the trails? 
>> I'm sure there's a lot of opinions here ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
>>>
>>> Congrats!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:08 PM, Chris Birkenmaier  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Congratulations Bill!  I know you keep an inventory of spare parts.  Any 
>>> idea of the drivetrain or wheels you are planning for it?  I'm getting one 
>>> but haven't invested much time in thinking about the build.
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 2:58:49 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote: 

 I'm kind of surprised that no one has mentioned the comment in the May 
 30 newsletter about not being able to get an orange Sam or a green/silver 
 Appaloosa for at least 648 days BUT that something in the middle might be 
 replacing them next year.  Having a bike between a Sam and a Joe seems to 
 be splitting a finer line but I'm stoked to see what they come with (or 
 maybe come up with).  I recently bought a silver 51 Joe and it has really 
 calmed down my bike buying desires because it is just so good.  I have a 
 Sam, Joe, Cheviot, San Marcos , Rosco Mountain Mixte on order and a 
 Quickbeam so I don't need another.  But I'm endlessly interested in what 
 they come up with.

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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: New Riv Model - Newsletter

[davecstein]

Maybe you're like me and you've cycled through some buying and selling, though 
you had a hunqapillar and a homer for some reason.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 10, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
> 
> dstein asked:
> 
> "Bill - how many rivendell's do you own now?!?! Can I have a couple ;)"
> 
> I own two Rivendells , plus my portion of a tandem.  I have an 8 year old 
> Samuel Hillborne and a newish Rosco Bubbe road bike that serves as my daily 
> commuter.  This Mountain Mixte will make three.  
> 
> BL in EC
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 3:20:51 PM UTC-7, dstein wrote:
>> Bill - how many rivendell's do you own now?!?! Can I have a couple ;)
>> 
>> I don't get the appeal of the upright mountain mixte. I guess it doesn't 
>> have to be upright, but they usually seem to be setup w/ albatross bars. To 
>> be honest though, I don't see the appeal of upright bars for anything other 
>> than a bike used to go a few miles here and there for commuting/errands/all 
>> rounder type stuff. Anything else (long road rides, trail rides, mixed 
>> rides, etc) I want something more aggressive (drops/albastache/riser/etc). 
>> What's the appeal of an upright mountain mixte? Is it just to have something 
>> different? Is it better/worse when things get real on the trails? I'm sure 
>> there's a lot of opinions here ;)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
>>> Congrats!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:08 PM, Chris Birkenmaier  wrote:
>>> 
 Congratulations Bill!  I know you keep an inventory of spare parts.  Any 
 idea of the drivetrain or wheels you are planning for it?  I'm getting one 
 but haven't invested much time in thinking about the build.
 
> On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 2:58:49 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
> I'm kind of surprised that no one has mentioned the comment in the May 30 
> newsletter about not being able to get an orange Sam or a green/silver 
> Appaloosa for at least 648 days BUT that something in the middle might be 
> replacing them next year.  Having a bike between a Sam and a Joe seems to 
> be splitting a finer line but I'm stoked to see what they come with (or 
> maybe come up with).  I recently bought a silver 51 Joe and it has really 
> calmed down my bike buying desires because it is just so good.  I have a 
> Sam, Joe, Cheviot, San Marcos , Rosco Mountain Mixte on order and a 
> Quickbeam so I don't need another.  But I'm endlessly interested in what 
> they come up with.
 
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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: New Riv Model - Newsletter

[Bill Lindsay]

dstein asked:

"Bill - how many rivendell's do you own now?!?! Can I have a couple ;)"

I own two Rivendells , plus my portion of a tandem.  I have an 8 year old 
Samuel Hillborne and a newish Rosco Bubbe road bike that serves as my daily 
commuter.  This Mountain Mixte will make three.  

BL in EC


On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 3:20:51 PM UTC-7, dstein wrote:
>
> Bill - how many rivendell's do you own now?!?! Can I have a couple ;)
>
> I don't get the appeal of the upright mountain mixte. I guess it doesn't 
> have to be upright, but they usually seem to be setup w/ albatross bars. To 
> be honest though, I don't see the appeal of upright bars for anything other 
> than a bike used to go a few miles here and there for commuting/errands/all 
> rounder type stuff. Anything else (long road rides, trail rides, mixed 
> rides, etc) I want something more aggressive (drops/albastache/riser/etc). 
> What's the appeal of an upright mountain mixte? Is it just to have 
> something different? Is it better/worse when things get real on the trails? 
> I'm sure there's a lot of opinions here ;)
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
>>
>> Congrats!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:08 PM, Chris Birkenmaier  wrote:
>>
>> Congratulations Bill!  I know you keep an inventory of spare parts.  Any 
>> idea of the drivetrain or wheels you are planning for it?  I'm getting one 
>> but haven't invested much time in thinking about the build.
>>
>> On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 2:58:49 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote: 
>>>
>>> I'm kind of surprised that no one has mentioned the comment in the May 
>>> 30 newsletter about not being able to get an orange Sam or a green/silver 
>>> Appaloosa for at least 648 days BUT that something in the middle might be 
>>> replacing them next year.  Having a bike between a Sam and a Joe seems to 
>>> be splitting a finer line but I'm stoked to see what they come with (or 
>>> maybe come up with).  I recently bought a silver 51 Joe and it has really 
>>> calmed down my bike buying desires because it is just so good.  I have a 
>>> Sam, Joe, Cheviot, San Marcos , Rosco Mountain Mixte on order and a 
>>> Quickbeam so I don't need another.  But I'm endlessly interested in what 
>>> they come up with.
>>>
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[RBW] Short Riv product review, gloves

[Joe Bernard]

These babies:

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/clothing/products/thinny-riding-gloves-fake-leather-grey

Look great, work great, the sizing description is spot on, I have small hands 
and bought the Large. They fit a bit loose (my preference), I could've gone 
Medium. I've never had any luck with padded anything on the bike; I'm a firm 
believer that if something hurts in the saddle/bar connection, you need a 
better position, better saddle or better bars. 

These unpadded gloves are fabulous at a fabulous price. The new fork crown 
t-shirts are pretty swell, too. 

Joe "not a paid spokesman, just a happy customer" Bernard
Vallejo, CA. 

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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: New Riv Model - Newsletter

[Joe Bernard]

Dstein: I think arm length and style of riding matter much in this equation. 
I'm a little guy with short arms and everything I ride has the bars level or 
higher than the saddle; the last time I rode drops they we're almost comically 
jacked up, but it felt great. But - as you addressed - I'm not a particularly 
aggressive rider, even if I'm out there for a few hours. So the upright 
position is best for me, although I wouldn't use pullback bars for singletrack, 
that's for common  flatbars or the original Bullmoose. 

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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: New Riv Model - Newsletter

[dstein]

Bill - how many rivendell's do you own now?!?! Can I have a couple ;)

I don't get the appeal of the upright mountain mixte. I guess it doesn't 
have to be upright, but they usually seem to be setup w/ albatross bars. To 
be honest though, I don't see the appeal of upright bars for anything other 
than a bike used to go a few miles here and there for commuting/errands/all 
rounder type stuff. Anything else (long road rides, trail rides, mixed 
rides, etc) I want something more aggressive (drops/albastache/riser/etc). 
What's the appeal of an upright mountain mixte? Is it just to have 
something different? Is it better/worse when things get real on the trails? 
I'm sure there's a lot of opinions here ;)



On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 7:18:42 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
>
> Congrats!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:08 PM, Chris Birkenmaier  > wrote:
>
> Congratulations Bill!  I know you keep an inventory of spare parts.  Any 
> idea of the drivetrain or wheels you are planning for it?  I'm getting one 
> but haven't invested much time in thinking about the build.
>
> On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 2:58:49 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote: 
>>
>> I'm kind of surprised that no one has mentioned the comment in the May 30 
>> newsletter about not being able to get an orange Sam or a green/silver 
>> Appaloosa for at least 648 days BUT that something in the middle might be 
>> replacing them next year.  Having a bike between a Sam and a Joe seems to 
>> be splitting a finer line but I'm stoked to see what they come with (or 
>> maybe come up with).  I recently bought a silver 51 Joe and it has really 
>> calmed down my bike buying desires because it is just so good.  I have a 
>> Sam, Joe, Cheviot, San Marcos , Rosco Mountain Mixte on order and a 
>> Quickbeam so I don't need another.  But I'm endlessly interested in what 
>> they come up with.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Basket narrower than the Wald 137?

[Garth]

Look for kids baskets. 

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[RBW] Re: Basket narrower than the Wald 137?

[Andre Rosario]

Thanks so much for the idea. I gave it a try myself this morning. Problem 
solved! I decided to clip off the extra metal and then did my best to wrap the 
ends around the top bar for a cleaner look. Took about an hour and a half, but 
I'm not great with pliers, so YMMV. 

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Re: [RBW] Rear rack adapter for Hubbuhubbuh tandems?

[Ray Varella]

Thank you Rene. 

Ray

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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: FS: 58 Simple One, Phil Hubs, Eno Crank and Eno FreeWheel, $1250

[allenmichael]

$250 but I am open to being educated if that is not a fair price. 

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Re: [RBW] Rear rack adapter for Hubbuhubbuh tandems?

[René Sterental]

I called RBW and spoke to Roman. He knows there are plans to do one but it
hasn't happened yet. Grant was unavailable for more details, so I'll have
to call again.

René

On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 8:26 AM Ray Varella  wrote:

> Does anyone recall mention of an adapter for putting a rack on the HHH
> tandems!
>
> I seem to recall reading that there would be some sort of adapter but I
> could be mistaken.
>
> Thank you,
> Ray
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[RBW] Re: PSA: Coffee Outside Bay Area

[Kellie]

Beautiful out there today.




On Sunday, February 19, 2017 at 12:01:27 PM UTC-8, Kellie wrote:
>
> *Chasing Mailboxes* has "Coffee Friday," @foundinthemountains (Vancouver) 
> has #coffeeoutsideyvc. Now there's *Coffee Outside Bay Area *(SF): first 
> meet-up is Sat. March 3, 7AM west side of Marina Park on the SF Bay Trail, 
> near Salute Restaurant, Marina Bay. Bring your coffee making set-up (or 
> thermos), share the sunrise , be with like-minded people . Only 4.5 
> miles from the El Cerrito  Plaza BART-you can ride the SF Bay Trail most of 
> the way. More info @coyboygrrl (Instagram).
>
>
>
> 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Gearing 101

[Peter Turskovitch]

On Thursday, June 8, 2017 at 11:05:36 PM UTC+2, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> What rear mech are you using?


An old XTR on a wolf tooth road link. 

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[RBW] Rear rack adapter for Hubbuhubbuh tandems?

[Ray Varella]

Does anyone recall mention of an adapter for putting a rack on the HHH tandems!

I seem to recall reading that there would be some sort of adapter but I could 
be mistaken. 

Thank you,
Ray

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[RBW] Re: Big Ol' Mixte Update

[Grant @ Rivendell]

The old song updated and fantasticized, Martin! Good work.

The low horizontal tube makes it a "Laddie Lifter,"a term we've used 
--along 'lady lifter," depending--many times around here. Gotta love a 
Laddie Lifter. I also triangulates the BB area, reducing flex/fatigue 
there. Even without it, the frame won't break, but the LLTube locks it in. 
It's strategically (intelligently, not dumbly) placed to allow a front 
derailer. Related to "derailer"--I've adopted the Sheldon spelling for so 
long now, it's automatique! I'm a Sheldon admirereur. But back to the LL..

On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 1:34:28 PM UTC-7, MartyG wrote:
>
> If men riding mixtes is wrong, I don't wanna be right. Will sent an email 
> update today. Sample is in the house. It gets better and better:
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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: New Riv Model - Newsletter

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

Congrats!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:08 PM, Chris Birkenmaier 
> wrote:

Congratulations Bill!  I know you keep an inventory of spare parts.  Any idea 
of the drivetrain or wheels you are planning for it?  I'm getting one but 
haven't invested much time in thinking about the build.

On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 2:58:49 PM UTC-4, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
I'm kind of surprised that no one has mentioned the comment in the May 30 
newsletter about not being able to get an orange Sam or a green/silver 
Appaloosa for at least 648 days BUT that something in the middle might be 
replacing them next year.  Having a bike between a Sam and a Joe seems to be 
splitting a finer line but I'm stoked to see what they come with (or maybe come 
up with).  I recently bought a silver 51 Joe and it has really calmed down my 
bike buying desires because it is just so good.  I have a Sam, Joe, Cheviot, 
San Marcos , Rosco Mountain Mixte on order and a Quickbeam so I don't need 
another.  But I'm endlessly interested in what they come up with.

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[RBW] FS: FSA Electra cranks 50.4bcd 170mm $80 shipped

[Belopsky]

Photos! https://www.flickr.com/photos/14767344@N07/shares/d821d7

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[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

[Jay Connolly]

As a cyclist and a leukemia patient, I really appreciate learning about 
Freddie. Thanks for the link.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

[Broccoli Cog]

For those interested to learn more about Freddie Hoffman here is a link you 
can read here 

On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 2:10:40 AM UTC-4, Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
> Freddie Hoffman has ridden more than 1.5 million miles with an 
> upright-swept back handlebar. In the '80s he averated 50,000 miles per 
> year. We've covered him in the RR, he's been written up here and there...it 
> can be done.
>
> On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-7, Peter Turskovitch wrote:
>>
>> Hi everybody, 
>>
>> I've heard that this is the place to come for advice about "alternative" 
>> handlebars. Can anybody recommend a bar for long rides? My problem these 
>> days is that I'm pulling a kid trailer and lowering my pace to ride with a 
>> new-to-cycling spouse. These factors have reduced my pressure on the 
>> pedals, so to speak, and left my torso less supported by my core. My hands 
>> are sore! All the same, we're still riding 75 - 100km at a time, so I need 
>> something with multiple positions for the long haul. 
>>
>> Everybody's bodies and needs are different, and what works for one may 
>> not work for another, but I would be very interested in hearing some 
>> perspectives!
>>
>> Peter 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Does anybody ride 75+ km with non-drop-bar handlebars?

[Grant @ Rivendell]

Freddie Hoffman has ridden more than 1.5 million miles with an 
upright-swept back handlebar. In the '80s he averated 50,000 miles per 
year. We've covered him in the RR, he's been written up here and there...it 
can be done.

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-7, Peter Turskovitch wrote:
>
> Hi everybody, 
>
> I've heard that this is the place to come for advice about "alternative" 
> handlebars. Can anybody recommend a bar for long rides? My problem these 
> days is that I'm pulling a kid trailer and lowering my pace to ride with a 
> new-to-cycling spouse. These factors have reduced my pressure on the 
> pedals, so to speak, and left my torso less supported by my core. My hands 
> are sore! All the same, we're still riding 75 - 100km at a time, so I need 
> something with multiple positions for the long haul. 
>
> Everybody's bodies and needs are different, and what works for one may not 
> work for another, but I would be very interested in hearing some 
> perspectives!
>
> Peter 
>

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