[RBW] Re: Saddle height vs PBH

Oops! PBH x 0.8*8*3 = Saddle height. I ride just a bit lower than that. On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 9:52:47 PM UTC-6, Mojo wrote: > I have a couple of formulas in my garage, using cm: > PBH x 0.69 = Frame Size > PBH x 0.833 = Saddle Height > > I believe I got these from one of Grant's

[RBW] Re: Saddle height vs PBH

I have a couple of formulas in my garage, using cm: PBH x 0.69 = Frame Size PBH x 0.833 = Saddle Height I believe I got these from one of Grant's writings. My Riv custom follows these formulas. My PBH is 89.2 and Grant built me a 61.5cm frame and my saddle height is 74cm using 175mm cranks

[RBW] Saddle height vs PBH

My PBH is 95 and I run my saddles (180/178 cranks) at 85. On my Joe, I use Pedaling Innovations long pedals and push my foot further forward. The saddle on that one is at 84. (Jury still out on the overall value of the pedals, but I no longer suffer excruciating hot foot on long rides, so that

[RBW] Possibly FS: 1986 Pinnarello Montello

Davey Have a local friend interested in more info. Is there an email address I can pass along? Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Saddle height vs PBH

Not true for me, I'm losing about 13 from my pbh, with 178 cranks. -Kai BK NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Feeler: 56cm Toyo-built Rivendell Atlantis

Long story short - meniscus/knee injury and a move to a smaller place and the fact that I don't do any loaded touring means I am more motivated to sell off bikes than usual. If I can sell my fat bike, my Bob Jackson single speed the Rivendell is also on the chopping block. Long story shorter -

Re: [RBW] Re: Grim Hipsters, Holdfasts

Thanks, Dave, for bringing a small measure of sanity to this discussion recently gotten out of hand. I checked out the VO Sabots last month, to see if they accept clips 'n' strap; and yes, they do -- a plus. I've moved the Sabots once again to the top of the list, as able to take clips/straps as

[RBW] Re: Saddle height vs PBH

Don't forget to factor in your crank length. 5mm difference in cranks equals 10mm in the full revolution. 5mm shorter means 5mm less at the top and bottom of the stroke. Go from 165mm to 175mm cranks and you may find your hip flexor, knees and foot muscles as well as calf and Achilles' tendons

[RBW] Re: PSA: 58 cm Rivendell custom touring bike on CL

really pretty. im gonna pretend its slightly too big -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

[RBW] Re: Saddle height vs PBH

I think it works well for me and I actually worked backwards and got my PBH from my saddle height. I have a hard time measuring PBH due to obesity and my wife and I measured it at 83cm (5'11"). I can straddle an 84cm S.O. bike and still bend my knees a bit so I know 83cm isn't accurate. From

[RBW] FS: Ortlieb handlebar bag, XTR rear der, Bicycle Quarterly mags, saddles, more

crossposted from bob Ortlieb Ultimate 6 M Plus handlebar bag, gray. Waterproof. Includes shoulder strap, x-wing insert plus the improved insert as well as the optional camera insert and map case. You'll need to have or purchase a mounting bracket. $85 XTR rear der, long cage, RD-M980 10-speed

[RBW] Re: I made an Instagram for stuff I'm selling.

Like it. Could work well. Will need to make new habit about where I put images and tag 'em On Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 11:49:52 AM UTC-4, adam leibow wrote: > > glad you guys like this idea. i like the collective hashtag idea. > #650rivbob ? > -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Rambling Interview with Grant: Trail, Women's bikes, Low gearing, Current Reading, Etc

If Grant responded easily to vogue pressure, we would have never heard of him. On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 7:49:57 PM UTC-4, Eamon Nordquist wrote: > > Grant should feel no pressure to abandon what he does just because there > is another way currently in vogue. > > > -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Grim Hipsters, Holdfasts

I bet the white tape on his feet was common athletic tape, the kind of stuff used to tape ankles and all body parts in athletics, so I agree with Christopher as it could also be called medical tape by medical folk. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Saddle height vs PBH

Chris, it works for me, a pbh of 91 and a saddle height of 81, most of my riding is in Shimano or Chaco sandals, all on platform pedals. Steve On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:20 PM Christopher Cote < christopherjamesc...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm curious how many here find that Grant's "rule" about

[RBW] Re: Grim Hipsters, Holdfasts

Back to the subject For touring I use Hold-Fast straps with VO Sabot pedals, which for purposes of this discussion are similar to the Thin Gripsters. The pedals are well made and have a large 100mm by 100mm platform, which when coupled with the large-size Hold-Fast straps accommodate my

[RBW] Saddle height vs PBH

As you know, what GP summizes as a starting point for saddle height is based on his experience and assumptions. Of course, we all have our own. I don't think he means it as the one and only way, just his experience and he's passing it along. Like all fit questions, the variables are infinite,

[RBW] Re: Saddle height vs PBH

I ride in sandals as well, and with a midfoot pedal placement, which has my saddle lower by some amount. I also like a bit lower saddle because I floor live and so am very used to squatting and bending my knees, preferring a lower stance, for example, for running. With abandon, Patrick On

[RBW] Re: Saddle height vs PBH

My PBH is 88 cm and I put my saddle heights at 78 or 77 cm. That works well with thicker-soled shoes like Keen sandals, but if I take a ride with thin-soled shoes like Vibram Five Fingers, that saddle height is too tall. It's easier to change my shoes than it is to lower (and then raise) the

[RBW] Re: Saddle height vs PBH

Oh, and this article mentions the tilted hip thing: https://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/bikefit/2011/11/knee-pain/ Chris On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 7:20:50 PM UTC-4, Christopher Cote wrote: > > I'm curious how many here find that Grant's "rule" about saddle height > being 10-11cm lower

Re: [RBW] Re: Grim Hipsters, Holdfasts

Ooooh medical tape. Maybe. I'll rewatch the movie and make a judgement. Who's in the pool for: Electrical tape Scotch tape Newbaums -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Saddle height vs PBH

I'm curious how many here find that Grant's "rule" about saddle height being 10-11cm lower than PBH to be true for them. My PBH is 86cm and for the longest time, ran my saddle at 75cm from the center of the cranks. Lately, I switched from clipless pedals to flats, and now that the weather is

[RBW] Re: PSA: 58 cm Rivendell custom touring bike on CL

Wow, that's my size, and aside from the mustache bars, just how I'd set it up. Thankfully, I already have a Heron Touring with nearly identical geometry and a similar parts kit. Chris On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 6:41:19 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote: > > No relation to seller but this one looks

Re: [RBW] Re: Grim Hipsters, Holdfasts

I always thought it was medical tape, the cloth stuff with glue so strong it would reopen the cut when you tried to pull it off. Chris On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 5:12:47 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Patrick Moore implied that duct tape was employed to attach Daves feet to > the pedals

[RBW] PSA: 58 cm Rivendell custom touring bike on CL

No relation to seller but this one looks worth a serious look: https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/d/rivendell-touring-off-road/6221169800.html 58 cm Curt Goodrich / Joe Bell custom with plenty of extra goodies, like a complete wheelset w/ tires plus various bags, racks, etc. Seller is

[RBW] PSA: 56 cm Rivendell custom fixed gear on CL

An Irvine local has a 56 cm custom listed on CL for $1,650: https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/bik/d/custom-rivendell-bicycle-cm/6205128123.html Joe Stark built, Joe Bell paint, Coleman green. Seller lives a few miles from me if anyone wants help. No relation to seller, just another guy on

[RBW] Re: Clem H with drop bars?

OK, I went out for a 25-mile road/MUP/gravel trail ride this morning on the dirt drop Clem. I have no complaints about braking power with the non-aero levers plus Avid V-brakes. It DOES take more pull of the lever to get the "I have to stop immediately" level of brake force, but it does

Re: [RBW] Re: Grim Hipsters, Holdfasts

Sorry, only willing to wager the cost of a roll of masking tape. On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: > Patrick Moore implied that duct tape was employed to attach Daves feet to > the pedals during the Little 500 at the end of Breaking Away. > > Without

[RBW] Re: WTB: 110BCD 44t Chain Guard - Salsa Crossing Guard or that Sugino one

The Salsa one in black would be fine, actually. KJ On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 5:26:48 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote: > > Anyone have one of these items? Needs to be silver, 110mm BCD. > > Thanks! > > Kieran > Toronto, Canada > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] WTB: 110BCD 44t Chain Guard - Salsa Crossing Guard or that Sugino one

Anyone have one of these items? Needs to be silver, 110mm BCD. Thanks! Kieran Toronto, Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Grim Hipsters, Holdfasts

Patrick Moore implied that duct tape was employed to attach Daves feet to the pedals during the Little 500 at the end of Breaking Away. Without checking , I will wager the cost of a pair of HoldFast straps that it was not duct tape, but masking tape. Bill Pedal Pedant Lindsay El Cerrito Ca

Re: [RBW] Re: Grim Hipsters, Holdfasts

It let Dave Stoller win, but I expect more than Dave Stoller. On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Garth wrote: > >Duct tape will work !!! It's the Xth wonder of the world you know > .. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >

[RBW] Re: Grim Hipsters, Holdfasts

Duct tape will work !!! It's the Xth wonder of the world you know .. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Grim Hipsters, Holdfasts

Just for the record, "cloaca" means, archaically, "sewer", avian or not. On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > You're becoming a conceptual bird? > > With abandon, > Patrick > > On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 1:57:28 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >>

[RBW] Re: Richmond/El Cerrito RBW owners, hi!

The coffee ride isn't happening anymore..Kellie said no one was showing up. I confess to living in the area and it was much too early in the morning for me. I'm an afternoon plonker. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Grim Hipsters, Holdfasts

A conceptually confused canary. Ciao! Catrick. On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > You're becoming a conceptual bird? > > With abandon, > Patrick > > On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 1:57:28 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> Thems These And Those: >>

[RBW] Re: Clem H with drop bars?

Old school non-areo levers do seem to pull a lot of cable so you may be ok. In fact, you may have found the first brakes those things actually work on: Dia-Compe non-aero levers with single-pivot sidepulls or centerpulls are what can best be described as "speed reducers" ;-) -- You received

[RBW] Re: Grim Hipsters, Holdfasts

You're becoming a conceptual bird? With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 1:57:28 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Thems These And Those: > > https://www.rivbike.com/products/thin-gripster-pedals-dark-grey-vp-001 > > (Grim Hipsters instead of Thin Gripsters is from the Blug, so

[RBW] Burrito Wrap (Was: Grim Hipsters, Holdfasts)

Speaking of Holdfasts and such, apparently the company sells this: https://holdfastordie.com/collections/packs-and-bags/products/canvas-tool-bag Someone onlist not long ago was asking about the Rivendell Burrito Wrap. This seems very similar. On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Patrick Moore

[RBW] Grim Hipsters, Holdfasts

Thems These And Those: https://www.rivbike.com/products/thin-gripster-pedals-dark-grey-vp-001 (Grim Hipsters instead of Thin Gripsters is from the Blug, so it's official.) https://holdfastordie.com/ 1. Have any of youse used these and those? 2. How well do the Hold Fasts work? 3. How well do

[RBW] Clem H with drop bars?

Do a forum search using the terms "clem," "drop bar," and "zed martinez." He gave it a good effort, chronicled his experience in detail and, i believe, ultimately decided against. I think riv discourages the idea, too. Top tube length is obviously the issue, and there could of course be

[RBW] Clem H with drop bars?

Chris, I tried drops on the brief time I had a Clem H. Worked just okay but changed them out to Albatross with a dirt drop which was much more comfortable. Best, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] SaddleSack Hack

Very clever, and glad you found a bike and had a good time -- and a free ride to the airport! On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Sean Kline wrote: > My recent trip to Minneapolis felt too short to bring by Sam. And because > I made the mistake of buying a United Basic

[RBW] Re: I made an Instagram for stuff I'm selling.

+ 1 for #650rivbob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] SaddleSack Hack

Great bag hack & story. I think a couple of D-loops on a Medium or a Small saddle sack could allow for convenient carry with a shoulder strap, bag hanging "vertically"... Just might do that... - Max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] SaddleSack Hack

Fantastic all round! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Clem H with drop bars?

Don't tell anyone, but my soon to start Riv Medium Mountain Mixte build will have drop bars. Roman's 54cm design has a top tube closer to 59cm. I'll be able to get away with a quite normal 9cm extension stem. I also ran drop bars on my 56cm Bombadil, which had a 60.5cm top tube. Bill Lindsay

[RBW] SaddleSack Hack

APPROVE APPROVE and APPROVE BL in EC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] SaddleSack Hack

My recent trip to Minneapolis felt too short to bring by Sam. And because I made the mistake of buying a United Basic Economy ticket and wanted to avoid any luggage fees, I needed to bring as little as necessary to support my long weekend riding the Twin Cities' amazing bike trails. So, I

[RBW] Re: OK to keep riding on this wheel, right?

Thanks Bill, the option of just replacing the shell hadn't occurred to me. I will ask White about it. -John On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 3:06:17 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > Given that history, that gets you into the very grey area of 'standing > behind one's product'. I agree it

[RBW] Re: Ride report / 1st tour on my Cheviot

Erl, Thanks for sharing your trip photos and stories. I grew up in Ohio and just love those old buildings and beautiful scenery. We don't have all those Rails- to- Trails out here. Your Cheviot looks amazing. Jon > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] Re: Richmond/El Cerrito RBW owners, hi!

Don't live there, but love the area (our son does so we get to visit). You should be hearing from Kellie. She schedules a Saturday morning coffee meet-up that you should enjoy. i definitely plan to go next time we are there, hopefully in Sept. On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 10:11:03 AM

[RBW] Re: Clem H with drop bars?

I just mounted a dirt drop setup on my Clem H 52cm and will test it out on local gravel roads tomorrow morning, I think. I have a long torso, so it certainly doesn't seem too stretched out, but it's sure a lot more aggressive than the bullmoose bars that I took off! Question for folks: I'm