Dahon versus Brompton ([RBW] Re: Quickbeam over Mt Tam)

One last comment: having owned both a Dahon Hon Solo and Boardwalk, I do not think they are the same frame or fork. The HS seemed/ looked/ was much higher in quality. cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

Dahon versus Brompton ([RBW] Re: Quickbeam over Mt Tam)

I've ridden and owned both a Dahon Hon Solo and a Brompton. The wheels are larger on the HS and that gave it a bit of a smoother, more normal-feeling ride. That's not to say the Brompton doesn't ride as well just that it has its own feel and characteristics. I actually find the Brompton more

[RBW] 2.35 inch tires on Atlas rims

I recently stumbled across a compilation of mfg rim-tire recommendations. Maybe it was here. Wish I'd saved it. Mavic basically says you can run anything up to a 2.5 on a 19mm internal width rim. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: Dahon versus Brompton ([RBW] Re: Quickbeam over Mt Tam)

I've ridden a bunch of 20-inch-wheel Dahons and they ride fine, as does the 16-inch-wheel Dahon and two Bromptons I've owned. Your height/weight can make a difference on these contraptions so I'm not going to keep arguing this topic and boring the hell out of everybody. You should ride a Brompton

Dahon versus Brompton ([RBW] Re: Quickbeam over Mt Tam)

The opinions are consistent. I've not ridden a Brompton; have you ridden a Hon Solo? I was pleasantly surprised when I first rode the Hon Solo: after reading about folders, I feared twitchiness. But the HS rode very much like a road bike; not like a Rivendell, but certainly not twitchey. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam over Mt Tam

I know you've made your bike the grocery trolley. Is there a reason that doesn't work? Would doing so tick all the boxes? With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 9:01:14 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > > Me, I want a bike that folds enough to fit into a grocery trolley, but

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam over Mt Tam

I'll let others chime in (although they may consider this thread hijacked enough already), but as far as I'm concerned those reviews are bollocks. All small-wheelers handle quick, but that can be mitigated on a Brompton with a couple pounds over the front wheel. Yesterday I rode my Clem L, today I

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam over Mt Tam

Question: I've read many comparative reviews of folders, and in many of them I've read that 20" Dahons ride more like "real bikes" than 16" wheel Bromptons; that Bromptons are the #1 choice if you want quick and easy folding, but if you want a ride that is closer to that of a full sized bike,

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam over Mt Tam

I see your point about the bars, but I've ridden a lot of Dahons and the Brommie rides at least as well as they do. I just finished a 10 mile ride on mine and would easily triple it without a thought. They make a singlespeed that could be converted to fixie. On Sep 2, 2017 7:31 PM, "Patrick

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam over Mt Tam

Thanks. Oh well; if I could find a Brompton that could give me an almost-road-bike riding position (as the HS does with 2" bar extender and original Moustache bar), and let me set it up as a fixed gear, I'd think of buying one. I don't want a bike whose principal benefit is folding small, while

[RBW] Re: UnRacer community in SLC?

My friend lives near Saturday Cycles, and we visited when I was in SLC. The shop was building my friend a three speed, and they had Rivs in the rafters. Easy to talk our kinds of bikes with the staff and customers. Cool place. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you

[RBW] 2.35 inch tires on Atlas rims

No problem with the fit, but if you ride them around anything pointy you'll wish they were tubeless. I liked everything except for the flats with them on Mavic 719s, since I mounted them on cliffhangers minus tubes, no flatting. -Kai BK NY -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam over Mt Tam

Thanks. Now that would do the trick! But I guess that it works only with a proprietary Brompton mounting system? On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > Patrick, here's my new Brompton (I sold the electric one) with a Brompton > C Bag. It's huge, and they

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam over Mt Tam

John: You breathe new, and doubtless still forlorn hope in my despairing quest to make my Dahon Hon Solo a load carrier. Would you mind posting a photo of your Bompton with touring bags? I'd like to see what sort of system you use. Thanks. Patrick Moore, who has 2 other load carrying bikes, in

Re: [RBW] Re: Sunrace make good cassettes?

Oooo! Oneisoneisoneisoneisoneisoneisoneisoneistoomany. Patrick Moore, getting dizzy when he should be writing a resume, in ABQ, NM On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Garth wrote: > ...One is One is One ... > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get

Re: [RBW] 2.35 inch tires on Atlas rims

You can do it without worrying. 25 years ago everyone rode 2" tires on 18-24 mm rims. I used 2.35s on 24 mm rims. "Optimal" means that you can play with low pressures; if you don't use pressures so low that the sidewall flops in turns, or pressures so high that the added angular leverage endangers

[RBW] Re: 2.35 inch tires on Atlas rims

I've put 2.35 Big Apples on Dyads, which I believe is a slightly narrower rim than the Atlas. It wasn't optimal in that I had to run a higher pressure than I would have liked to keep them from squirming in corners, but it worked. On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:16:29 PM UTC-5, John

[RBW] 2.35 inch tires on Atlas rims

I'm running those tires sucessfully on Velocity Synergy rims... 23mm rim width, I think the Atlas are wider. Should work fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] 2.35 inch tires on Atlas rims

I've inherited a pair of lightly used 2.35 inch Schwalbe G-One tires, and I'm thinking about trying them out on my Atlantis. Are my Atlas rims too small? According to Velocity's site, max optimal width for Atlas is 45mm. Anyone have firsthand experience? -- You received this message because

[RBW] Makeshifter Outback Saddlebag

Hello All, I have an almost new Makeshifter Outback Saddlebag up for grabs. I purchased this new back in June and used it only a handful of times. It is in excellent condition. The workmanship on this bag is impeccable and it looks amazing. I just was looking for something with a little more

Re: [RBW] Re: Sunrace make good cassettes?

On 09/02/2017 05:52 PM, Garth wrote: Ha Ha ! No matter how the most or the least, the first or the last, no matter how it is seen , one gear alone is ridden in any given moment. Separation of One is impossible. One is One is One, no matter how many ways One is experienced there is

[RBW] Quickbeam over Mt Tam

The Quickbeam, having been developed on the roads and trails around Mt. Diablo, is ideally suited to that kind of ride. I took mine with me once to SoCal and did some road/gravel/single track in the hills and it was heavenly. Very confidence-inspiring handling rolling down a sketchy hillside

[RBW] Re: Even a riv (design) can wobble

On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 2:56:19 PM UTC-5, Antone Könst wrote: > My new (to me) Cheviot is very hard to control with no hands on a flat road > with no load. …. And I replied: > Mine, too. My explanation is that the very high wheel flop requires a large > amount of correction, and it's

Re: [RBW] Re: Sunrace make good cassettes?

On 09/02/2017 03:23 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: Quoth Garth: / I get the idea of the minimizing to save this and that, but if I think I am "saving" anything at all by effort to avoid something , life has it's own way of showing me the utter futility of the idea. Like , "oh I know, I'll just

[RBW] 2017 Civil War Century

Hello All, Any one planning to ride the Civil War Century on the 9th? Four of my cycling friends and I we be riding the 75 mile loop. We're planning on arriving at 7:00 and starting the ride by 7:30. I'll be riding my Riv inspired 2012 Salsa Casseroll (Brooks saddle, mustache bars, Compass

[RBW] FS: Nitto Choco Norm, Nitto F25 Rack, Crust Bikes Rack, Many Stems, Other Misc Items

Hello RBW group, Trying to purge some nice things here. Links to pictures or product sites are included for reference/clarity of what's being sold, but are not pictures of the exact item in my possession. See below for more info. 1. Nitto F25 rack, some use (steel fillet brazed front rack,

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Pro 5 Vis ring very out of true or out of round

Good point; definitely a question of tolerances; up for debate whether a matter of QA. On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Peter White wrote: > I'd say it's a judgement call whether or not it is a quality control > issue. In manufacturing, you always set a standard for

Re: [RBW] Re: Sunrace make good cassettes?

Quoth Garth: * I get the idea of the minimizing to save this and that, but if I think I am "saving" anything at all by effort to avoid something , life has it's own way of showing me the utter futility of the idea. Like , "oh I know, I'll just ride ONE gear because that'll be so much more simple

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Pro 5 Vis ring very out of true or out of round

I'd say it's a judgement call whether or not it is a quality control issue. In manufacturing, you always set a standard for precision. Take chains. Modern bicycle chains are ½ inch pin to pin. Are they exactly ½ inch? How do you define "exactly?" To what tolerance? If you set the tolerance to

[RBW] Re: Cheviotlantis

I have a 60cm chev and can't say enough good things about it, except for the weird stuff I had to do to get the rear Paul Racer centerpull to work. This color combo is definitely appealing. On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 1:31:16 PM UTC-7, MartyG wrote: > > One of the nicest Cheviot's I've

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Pro 5 Vis ring very out of true or out of round

Thanks, all. I'm going to replace this 48 with another that I have, and hope that the other one is more "true." And: if anyone has 3/32 * 48 t 50.4 bcd rings to sell or trade -- *in very good condition, please!* --please lmk. * I use 9 speed chains 'cuz I use Dingle cogs. Peter: Then the upshot

Re: [RBW] Sunrace make good cassettes?

On 09/02/2017 12:03 PM, lum gim fong wrote: With my triple I am constantly switching between 2nd and 3rd rings. If I can juat stay on one ring that might be better. To me this indicates your choice of chain rings and sprockets is not optimal for you. Quoting Jan Heine from 3 Nov 2012

[RBW] Re: UnRacer community in SLC?

Yes, the bicycle collective rules! And bicycling in SLC is great for everybody, unracers and racers alike. Saturday Cycles is a great shop for matte riding gear. -Kai BK NY (part time SLC resident) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Pro 5 Vis ring very out of true or out of round

Simply time for a new chainring. Things do eventually wear out and have to be replaced or discarded. I consider it a positive outcome when if comes to bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Re: UnRacer community in SLC?

Bicycle Collective. https://www.bicyclecollective.org A couple we know are in SLC and the husband got involved and became a dedicated, practical cyclist as a result. They have a car for out of town stuff and her off hours pager calls from the hospital, but leave it parked most often. A

[RBW] Sunrace make good cassettes?

Less shifting if I can do 99% of riding on the big ring, bashguard looks so nice on those arms, less gears, i like simplifying. So I want to try the setup. Maybe reduce a little weight if I switch to double/shortcage derailers. With my triple I am constantly switching between 2nd and 3rd rings.

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam over Mt Tam

Not true, Joe. My students were amazed when I showed up to class on my bright lime green Brompton (with unfortunately chosen lime green helmet). Most had never seen one. I told them that my wife bought it for me when I graduated from clown college. They never know when I'm being sarcastic

[RBW] Re: Mavic Open Pro and dynamo wheel question

I'm running 43mm Rock and Roads on one Open Pro wheelset. The world keeps turning, nonetheless. I agree that it theoretically seems more "right" to have a wider rim with a wider tire, the fact is we were all running skinny rims on our mountain bikes in the 90's and we survived. If I could snap

[RBW] Re: FS-Joe Appaloosa

This bike is up for sale again. Nothing has changed. Would appreciate $2100 but would be open to other offers. Thanks all. On Sunday, February 26, 2017 at 9:16:53 PM UTC-6, Gossamer wrote: > > As close to new 58 Appaloosa in blue. > > Buil kit from Riv that included Nitto Choco Moose bars and

[RBW] Re: Mavic Open Pro and dynamo wheel question

Open Pro rims are quite strong for their weight -- really good rims, and they've been available for quite a few years now. But they are more of a racing type of rim - fairly narrow in width (I think they're around 19 mm). So the only drawback I can think of with them is that you probably

[RBW] Re: Tires/Wheels for new Sam Hillborne

https://www.flickr.com/photos/129545862@N03/24621117222/in/dateposted-public/ Found a photo. Not sure if you can zoom in tight enough to see the modified mounting bracket. John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Tires/Wheels for new Sam Hillborne

The sks fenders with the 40s were a little bit of a tough fit but I was able to get decent clearance. As I mentioned, I had to elongate the mounting hole almost down to the fender. I also had to bend it over like they showed on one of the Riv videos. That was the only way I could slam them

Re: [RBW] New Bike Day--R05C0 8U883 Medium Mountain Mixte

Thanks all. This bike features the new Silver tapered seat tube. It flares to 31.8mm about halfway down. Those of you who are assembling a build kit for your LBS to build might get caught off guard by that detail. The CX70 front derailleur Is a 31.8mm clamp with optional spacers so I was

Re: [RBW] Re: Help from coastal riders: how to deal with sand?

Hi Steve, just got in from my neighborhood loop - 24 mi and 1200' climb. I work in a lab and have a big fancy ultrasonic. My bath procedure is mineral spirits, a lab (zero residue) soap solution (Micro - like Alconox), water rinse and final denatured alcohol bath to dry the chain. The soap

[RBW] Mavic Open Pro and dynamo wheel question

I've got two bikes with dynamo hubs and Open Pro rims. One with Schmidt and one Shutter Precision. It's totally appropriate to use a dynamo hub with a narrow rim if you need to run narrow rims. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Mavic Open Pro and dynamo wheel question

There is absolutely no reason why the Pro's could not be fitted on a dynamo hub. I have built a couple of sets using Archetypes (kinda similar type rim although much more consistent quality than today's Pros) and used for thousands of miles. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: Mavic Open Pro and dynamo wheel question

Thanks guys. I agree that the Open Pro rims are not as hardy as my Dyads, but I have never had any issue with them, which is why I was thinking of building with them. I also like the fact that they seem a hair faster. Additionally, I don't plan to use anything wider than 28mm on the bike.

[RBW] Re: Mavic Open Pro and dynamo wheel question

I have been using a Schmidt, wide body Dyno hub with an Open Pro rim for the last 4 years. I have run 35mm & 38mm Compass tires as well as 35mm Vittorias and never had any issues. Peter White built the wheel and had no problems with its intended use. I am 6'1' and 185lbs. I have used the wheel

[RBW] Sunrace make good cassettes?

Oh shoot, I see you're using 650b wheels, hence the 11t need. Is there a reason why you're not using triple rings on that bike, that'd be more versatile. Just one main large ring would be alright for modest terrain but for hills I know I would like it, that's just me . I truly am not fond of

[RBW] Re: Mavic Open Pro and dynamo wheel question

I'm not a wheel or rim expert, but my impression of the Open Pro is that it's more suitable for racier bikes, and is not the best choice for rando or touring bikes because it's not as hardy as other choices. The randonneurs and tourists are the folks who tend to gravitate to dynamo hubs, and

Re: [RBW] Re: Help from coastal riders: how to deal with sand?

What ultrasonic cleaner do you use? Any recommendations? Or is this a case of even the lowest performing ultrasonic cleaner is so much better than none at all? On 09/02/2017 07:53 AM, Ron Mc wrote: Steve, I'm talking about simplicity. No, nothing is better than ultrasonic w/ mineral

[RBW] Sunrace make good cassettes?

You really have to know yourself as to your gear selections. Me, I would not get any cassette that had a 21 to 26 tooth jump on it like some of the wide range ones do. I would even question a 100" high gear. I could just as easily live with around 90 since it is actually used by me much more

Re: [RBW] Re: Help from coastal riders: how to deal with sand?

Steve, I'm talking about simplicity. No, nothing is better than ultrasonic w/ mineral spirits for cleaning chains. What I was talking about was living with salt, sand and grit. But I've also done 1000 mi on a chain using Clean Ride and the hose, about every 100 mi, and it works. It's not

[RBW] Re: S24O Report: Avoiding the Toilet-Eating-Bog by Bikepacking to Another

I'm often suspect. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 10:04:57 PM UTC-6, mlpessar wrote: > > I suspected Patrick. "God's Grandeur" is a personal favorite. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Help from coastal riders: how to deal with sand?

"Hose it down" implies water at pressure? -- superior to soaking and agitation in a solvent like mineral spirits? On 09/02/2017 07:39 AM, Ron Mc wrote: Ann, I also think the best option for you is stainless chain, White Lightning Clean Ride bottled lube, hose it down to clean, let it dry and

Re: [RBW] Re: Help from coastal riders: how to deal with sand?

Ann, I also think the best option for you is stainless chain, White Lightning Clean Ride bottled lube, hose it down to clean, let it dry and re-apply the bottled lube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Mavic Open Pro and dynamo wheel question

I've tried Velocity Dyads on my dynamo wheels and they are ok if running 32-35mm tires, but I've always considered Mavic Open Pros and 28's to be my favorite rim/tire choice. That said, I don't think I have ever seen them on dynamo wheels and I wonder why. Is it just that dynamo users tend to

Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] Pro 5 Vis ring very out of true or out of round

Rotating the ring will make no useful difference, though it will tell you how much of the runout is in the ring and how much is in the crank. While the Pro 5 Vis crank can be used as a single speed, it was never intended for use without a chain tensioner, which rear derailleurs include by

Re: [RBW] Re: Sunrace make good cassettes?

On 09/01/2017 10:26 PM, lum gim fong wrote: Thanks, Steve This cassette is for my 24/40 compact cranks. So I need the 11 to get me in the 94" range with my 650B x 40 tires so I don't spin out too, too soon on the long downhills. Yes, to get a useful gear with an 11T sprocket and any

Re: [RBW] Re: Sunrace make good cassettes?

On 09/01/2017 11:36 PM, dougP wrote: Whatever you get, carefully check the tooth count to make sure it's as useful as you want. I picked up a box the other day for a SRAM 11-32 that seemed impressively light. Then I noticed it was 11-12-14 etc. With a 44 "big ring" & 700c x 40 mm tires,

[RBW] Re: Sunrace make good cassettes?

Yeah, I checked t-count, tooth jump counts between cogs to match what I like, and gear inches to get the range I need to stay on the big ring for everything south of 7 or 8% climbing grades. Still on the fence about the 32 vs. 34. Not sure if I need to go 34. I think it is a 2.5 gear inch diff.