[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter 2 project revived

The BLUG today documents a method to get slightly more cable pull out of a Silver shifter. BL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

Thicker wall thickness means a smaller hole. All steel seat tubes are 28.6mm outside diameter. Frames thy take a 27.2mm seat post have 0.7mm wall thickness. Frames that take a 26.8mm seatpost have a 0.9mm wall thickness. For a stout, reliable bike like an Atlantis which should last for 50

[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

Interesting. I'll give them a call tomorrow. What's behind a move to 28.6? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

Also—sweet bike! Bob Brooklyn, NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

I can confirm what Bill said. Same thing happened to me when I got my hunq in 2016. It needs a 26.8. I wish Riv’s geometry chart had that! Bob Brooklyn, NY -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

I think it's 26.8mm nowadays. On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 6:53:22 PM UTC-8, drew wrote: > > I got my long awaited 650b hunq-green Atlantis frame today. Its real > pretty and has some nice little details that I wasn't expecting. I'm > building it up with parts from the hunqapillar I

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

I was fine with no foot retention and flat pedals when trying fixed early on... until I hit a steep hill with my “too low for the road 63” gear” and decided to try and see how well I could just “coast”... relax the legs and spin like the wind. It wasn’t long before I couldn’t keep up and feet

[RBW] Re: New Greenlantis/ seatpost size?/ crazy pack job

Drew, I had a Hunq that turned out to take a 27. Call Rivendell, when I talked to Will he said some of the frames were reamed to 27, and he sent me a post right away. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] Brake-Area Rack =/

I just found out the hard way that a Hub Area Rack mounted on a disc fork does not fully clear the disc caliper (at least not the Paul Klampers which are extrmely wide). With a couple washers it mounts OK but the caliper still interferes with the little mounting pocket on the back of the

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

while i am no expert I have given fixed riding a go and found that with brakes riding fixed with no foot retention is fine. Fixed sans brakes and foot retention is no bueno! best, Richard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: FS: 58 cm Hunqapillar fork for 26" wheels

Here it is. Send him a PM. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/tony$20xo-2$20fork%7Csort:date/rbw-owners-bunch/XzUkZ8LS6sM/-f-NvmvBBAAJ On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 6:28:43 PM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote: > > Seems like there was somebody else recently, on this list

[RBW] Re: FS: 58 cm Hunqapillar fork for 26" wheels

Seems like there was somebody else recently, on this list or the ibob list, looking for a fork with more clearance and enough steerer tube for a 59cm XO-2. Tony, perhaps? Maybe somebody else will remember, or I can find the thread. On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 8:44:38 AM UTC-7, Conway

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

Ha! Sounds like we’re in violent agreement. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

“… even if this reason doesn’t apply to every rider.” So true. So very true. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram) > On Dec 12, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: > > There are reasons for this, even if this reason doesn't apply to every

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

I can generate a lot of additional power by pulling back and up; and in those instances were I've pulled my foot out of shoe, or shoe out of pedal retention, I've more than a few times come close to falling over. I very definitely feel and use the additional torque generated in this way. But even

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

On 12/12/2017 06:48 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: You are right, Steve, in the event of a foot coming off a pedal, legs would need to splay outward and quickly, too and front brake engaged until pedals slowed down enough to safely (without maiming). I actually practiced this (and other ways

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

You are right, Steve, in the event of a foot coming off a pedal, legs would need to splay outward and front brake engaged until pedals slowed down enough to safely (without maiming). I actually practiced this (and other ways to screw up safely) early on, though not since. Not fun, not painful,

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

Lee, yes. Our eating table is 16” high or so. I just sit on thin cusions on a tile floor. My desk is a kneeling desk, roughly the same height. Eric, I understand. But it sure seems overstated that pedal retention is required to ride safely or well. As a rider preferance, makes perfect sense

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

On 12/12/2017 06:16 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: Ha, Chris! Conventional wisdom is an oxymoron. Which is either a moron on oxygen or oxycodon. Grin. I can’t see a reason why pedal retention is required to make fixed safe. Well, consider for a second the situation if your foot /does/ slip off

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

One other plus for tight retention is climbing steep hills. I stopped using cleatless shoes when I found myself routinely pulingl my feet out of semi-tight straps (or pulling my feet out of shoes tightened into the straps) when torquing hard -- pulling back and up -- on very steep hills at very

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

Deacon: For some people (myself included), it’s safer to have one’s feet attached to the pedals when going fast and “coasting” on a fixed gear. When the pedals start going very, very fast, I would rather not lose contact with the pedals, because it’s quite hard to reconnect when the pedals are

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

Hi Deacon, I have a question to the last part. Do you eat off a low table since you are floor living? On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Deacon Patrick wrote: > Ha, Chris! Conventional wisdom is an oxymoron. Which is either a moron on > oxygen or oxycodon. Grin. I can’t see

[RBW] Re: Riv Suggested Max Rider Weight per Model; Separate question about Sam sizing

There was one in Reader #44. Here's a pic: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4cmkuqpss259bga/File%20Dec%2012%2C%205%2015%2032%20PM.jpeg?dl=0 Mike On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 4:15:57 PM UTC-6, RDS wrote: > > Does anyone have a link or screenshot to the info where it showed the > suggested max

[RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

Ha, Chris! Conventional wisdom is an oxymoron. Which is either a moron on oxygen or oxycodon. Grin. I can’t see a reason why pedal retention is required to make fixed safe. I can see why people who like it on freewheeled bikes like it on fixed bikes. My feet haven’t come off the pedals unbidden

[RBW] Re: Riv Suggested Max Rider Weight per Model; Separate question about Sam sizing

I don't recall Rivendell ever posting a max rider weight vs Riv model. I do recall them posting a list of tire widths for rider weight. Tire width certainly implies bike model. Like if you are 350 pounds and if Riv thinks a 350 pounder should be running 60mm tires on the road, then you

[RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

I only use flat pedals fixed, and have for years. I haven't encountered a downside yet. I had straps, then clipless, then I made pedal decks that snapped into the clipless, and then I went to BMX pedals. Each iteration was an improvement. My Ross just has old mtb caged pedals, and also works

[RBW] Re: Riv Suggested Max Rider Weight per Model; Separate question about Sam sizing

I can't answer most of your questions but I did purchase a 52 cm Sam before the size change. If I recall correctly it was 52, then 56. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Riv Suggested Max Rider Weight per Model; Separate question about Sam sizing

Does anyone have a link or screenshot to the info where it showed the suggested max rider weight per Rivendell model? I can't remember where I originally saw the info .. may have been a rivendell reader. I sometimes see people list Sam's for sale in size 56. What was the next size down

[RBW] FS: Touring Goodies (Panniers / H'Bar Bags / Rack -- Ortlieb / Tubus / Jandd)

Hey Riv-folk, Hoping to convert my excess touring gear into cash for other cycling goodies. What iBOB wouldn't want to wake up to Ortlieb under the tree on Christmas morning? Also the perfect Christmas gift for your spouse (if you like sleeping on the couch)! ;) I'll try to do actual

[RBW] Re: SOLD FS: Large SaddleSack Olive

Sold. On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 5:23:46 PM UTC-8, J Imler wrote: > > Sale pending. > > On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 2:15:42 PM UTC-8, J Imler wrote: >> >> No I didn't realize that. Mainly going off the bag's condition. I must >> say the leather on this guy is legit. >> Price drop $200

[RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

As a fellow vertigo sufferer (although not nearly as bad!) I can identify with the preference to a direct connection with your bike, the earth, etc. I have noticed that the more direct feedback of a rigid or hardtail mountain bike is preferable for me, as compared to a motorcycle or even a

[RBW] Re: Grocery Run - No Trailer Test

Good job! Your load rivals what I can carry on my Xtracycle on a normal grocery run, Very Impressive! For an extreme approach, below shows my Xtracycle four years ago when I tried to really push it weight-wise: Two 28 lb boxes of kitty litter, 8 gallons of distilled water, two big bags of

Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

Ted's hypothesis seems to fit with experience, in that it would account for the "pedaling in squares" symptom when going back to a fw or S3X hubbed bike after riding real fixed for a while; that is, you have to "regain" the mental-cum-physiological habit of "keeping your feet ahead of drivetrain

Re: [RBW] Re: 50 Miles on the Quickbeam today - thoughts on 40x18

Interestingly, I also started out fixed with about a 63" high gear (40x17/19 dingle with 170 cranks and 700x32) and also quickly ramped up to 70" by increasing chainrings to 42t, then 44t. I'm in central NJ and 63" feels great in my local park (expansive network of flattish trails right

[RBW] Sold: Small Sackville TrunkSack

Sold. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] FS: 58 cm Hunqapillar fork for 26" wheels

House cleaning, bike purchase and relationship maintenance requires me to sell this fork. It was from a grey bean Hunqapillar and I had comrade cycles in Chicago drop the canti posts to briefly run really fat 26" wheels on a '93 XO-2. I never repainted the area where the work was done but it

[RBW] FS: 56 cm Sam Hillborne frameset w/ Paul brakes

I bought a Hunqapillar and need to be proactive about freeing up space so for sale is my most ridden bike, a 56 cm double tt Samuel Hillborne frameset WITH Paul Components center pull brakes. I bought this new from Riv in August of 2013. It was a web special with the non cream headtube

Re: [RBW] perforated bar wrap

I should amend my prior comments to add that my cloth tape preference is not due to any increased cushion vs. leather but a textural and convenience preference (cloth is just more forgiving and easier to wrap)... I've often doubled up the cotton cloth tape to increase cushion and thickness but

[RBW] perforated bar wrap

The perforations should allow the tape to breathe and dry out after a ride, meaning LESS moisture buildup, if anything. I always thought that was the reason for the perforations in the first place. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] perforated bar wrap

I've sweat-soaked my Brooks perforated leather tape several times on RAGBRAI. It's holding up pretty well. What corrosion are you worried about? Aluminum doesn't corrode significantly without galvanic contact with another metal (like steel). I did not like the feel nor the stiffness of cloth

[RBW] Re: perforated bar wrap

i used the brooks tape and it hasn't been a problem. though the cotton with the shellac is not a bad idea to give some cushion, the brooks leather bar tape is pretty firm and stiff until it breaks in. On Monday, December 11, 2017 at 10:06:33 PM UTC-5, ted wrote: > > Hey all, > > I've got a best

[RBW] Re: perforated bar wrap

As someone who sweats heavily and has come to prefer cloth bar tape I don’t think perforated leather would be any more of an issue than highly absorbent cotton cloth and I’ve never had an issue although my mileage has been limited and bar wraps short lived anyway with lots of recent bar

[RBW] Fixed Flywheel for the Brain

Interesting, Philip. I feel connected with the ground, through the bike. But I’m highly sensitive, rather like a canary in a coal mine. Lots of examples, but I’ll focus on chairs, for example. Science is discovering they are poor for circulation and thus heart health. I suspect they are poor

[RBW] Re: perforated bar wrap

Hi Ted, I wear gloves when riding, so don't have the sweat issue you described but I also don't see the holes getting gunked up with dirt of any other type. But the few times I've ridden short distances I've found Brooks leather tape to be kinda slick, not as grippy as it feels with gloves.