[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Protovelo

Hi Nick, Could you say what the BB center to saddle top distance is in the photo? Thanks, David Lipsky Berkeley, CA On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 9:26:33 PM UTC-8, Nick Davis wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm thinking about selling my 55cm Rivendell Protovelo. As the name > indicates, it was a

[RBW] Design your custom

I think it’s always sorta changing. My New 650b Atlantis is basically a perfect bike for me, and any dream custom would have a lot of overlap. Right now, it’d be basically a 26 or 650b Cheviot with clearances for 2.5 tires and v brakes. Or a lugged mountain mixte with actual mixte stays and no

[RBW] Re: FS: Bosco bar

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[RBW] Re: NITTO TALLUX stem for sale

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[RBW] WTB: Quill Stem 26.0, 80MM

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[RBW] Re: FS: Silver Shifters (lot of 2 sets)

Sold pending payment. Thx. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

[RBW] Re: FS: Silver Shifters (lot of 2 sets)

yes...I've reached the tipping point and just want to get rid of stuff I'll never use. I've also got some vintage stuff for sales on bikeforums.net. Some pics on my Flickr. If you see anything of interest shoot me an email. https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/ My big black Trek

Re: [RBW] Re: WTB single silver shifter (or dia-compe ENE)

Thanks, someone else just came through with a pair for me, but I'm still tempted by yours! -JB On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:56 PM, rob markwardt wrote: > doh...just read this after posting my shifters for sale. If they don't > sell I'll gladly take one apart and give you

[RBW] Re: WTB single silver shifter (or dia-compe ENE)

doh...just read this after posting my shifters for sale. If they don't sell I'll gladly take one apart and give you the guts. I might have another in the garage though...will look tomorrow. On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 7:55:02 PM UTC-8, Jack Barnes wrote: > > Looking for one silver

[RBW] FS: Silver Shifters (lot of 2 sets)

Of course you know that riv sells replacement plastic rings... I literally just bought a new set this evening. I am still tempted to buy yours. These things are going to go up like bitcoin once the v2 takes their place. You will have no problem selling these for $30 -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Cowboy Trail NE, Goatheads, tire choice

Great points from Patrick. Also get familiar with what the goat head plant looks like. You want to avoid running over them. Seams silly, but they grow in from the sides of trails. You may be able to avoid them on a wide enough rail trail. I would go with a Scwalbe Marathon Plus or the

[RBW] FS: Silver Shifters (lot of 2 sets)

Greetings, Getting rid of stuff I'll never use...maybe you can. 2 pairs of silver shifters with pods. Many miles but all still click. One shifter is missing the plastic ring, another has half of one. Together you should be able to cobble together a good set. $30 shipped. Rob Markwardt

[RBW] Re: Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

I tried 2.5 Loop my Appa for two weeks and then gave it up. Now I have Bosco and quite happy with it. In the past I've tried ChocoMoose, Alba and a few other alt bars. I'd have enjoyed Jones if my peddling effort were to be heavier. My ride is 60% with slightly extra effort, 30% completely

[RBW] WTB single silver shifter (or dia-compe ENE)

Looking for one silver shifter. Luckily I stumbled onto this post: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/VplzeZ3NDJg/taLi3RjyAQAJ ... and got to see what the innards of this shifter should look like. It appears I've lost the little spring that makes it all work properly. I have the

[RBW] Design your custom

All this talk of Rivs you'd buy if Grant/Riv made it got me to thinking of what my custom-I'll-probably-never-order would be. This is isn't outside the parameters of what they currently build - no Hunqadiscers or F Frames or cargo bikes - but a custom you can order from Mark Nobilette via Riv

[RBW] WTB: Bosco Handlebars 58 or 55

I am looking to purchase a Riv Bosco Handlebar. I prefer size 58, but will accept a 55 if needed. Send a private message w/ a pic and pricing. I am located in Georgia. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

I can’t imagine anything more ludicrous. On Feb 6, 2018, 7:29 PM -0800, Steve Palincsar , wrote: > Rein in a Monty Python reference because of alleged Catholic sensitivities?  > I should hope not. > > On 02/06/2018 10:13 PM, Philip Williamson wrote: > > Aren't you the guy who

Re: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Rein in a Monty Python reference because of alleged Catholic sensitivities?  I should hope not. On 02/06/2018 10:13 PM, Philip Williamson wrote: Aren't you the guy who took umbrage at being told the term "ghetto tubeless" could offend people? I'll reign in the Monty Python "Spanish

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Aren't you the guy who took umbrage at being told the term "ghetto tubeless" could offend people? I'll reign in the Monty Python "Spanish Inquisition" references in future, out of deference to my Catholic friends. I reserve a future "CAKE OR DEATH" reference, though. as an homage to my

[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

I think there are a number of models currently in the line up that I'd like to own, but I can't justify the space or money for them because I've already got 4 rivs of my own and my wife has a betty and a new appa coming soon. I guess the bike I'm most considering getting is a custom at some

[RBW] Re: New Chain Too Short?

I put 125 links on my Appaloosa 9 speed chain; put a 52 ring in the front and 34 big ring on the back. Works, but it's tight if I run big/big. Bike shop says if I put too many links, the derailleur will be too loose and will scrape the chain. I used a chain tool, to piece together the

[RBW] Roadini Build Suggestions

Mike: I own the 2-speed Cheviot "Scorcher" on the most recent Blug, so my knowledge and bias will be from the tensioner side. One thing I liked about the single-cog-on-freehub-with-tensioner arrangement is I didn't have to worry about swapping bottom brackets to get the chainline just right.

[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

Cargo bike! Only because I'm thinking of getting one to tote two kids around and I get overwhelmed with all of the (probably pretty good) options out there and trust that when riv makes something it'll be good and make my research/decision process easier. Normally I'd say this is not at all

Re: [RBW] Roadini Build Suggestions

I ran a tensioner for quite a while on my old single speed mountain bike, back in the day before single speedable frames were relatively common. And I've run one now and again on frames with vertical drops. In my experience, the only downside to the tensioner is that it's a tiny bit noisier, and

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Do your own research, but the Spanish inquisition may not be what most people have been taught. At the risk of pointing out “fake history,” (jwhich as a Catholic I very much wish to point out) the Spanish Inquisition isn’t what most people think. So “No one expects the Spanish Inquisition” is a

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam track end (dropout) maintenance?

I’ll be confirming specs of the others soon (have a his/hers Sports combo) with calipers to double check everything with those frames and AW hubs but was sure from research and other tests that most had narrower rear dropouts. Forks were definitely narrower but now I’m questioning the rear.

[RBW] Re: Roadini Build Suggestions

Not all Eno rear hubs are *eccentric* Eno hubs. You need the *eccentric* Eno hub to convert a vertical dropout bike to a tensioner free single speed. I like the eccentric Eno. I have used it on my single speed Sam and single speed Rosco Bubbe V1 - same wheelset actually. All of my other single

[RBW] Roadini Build Suggestions

I have a Roadini frame that I am hoping to build up as an uncomplicated bike such as a 1x8 or a single speed. The way I see it my single speed options are to use a White Industries ENO hub or a chain tensioner. I've noted a lot of attention in the BLUG on single speeds, 2 x 1 speeds and a 1 x

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Isn't "slippery slope" the name of a logical fallacy? Dane assessed the situation, took action, and turned out to be correct. Well done, him. I suspect the "warmth in our hearts" sentiment was a kinder form of "I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!"* Philip Santa Rosa, CA *NO ONE EXPECTS

[RBW] Re: Un-un-racing update: My first ever mountain bike race

Yes, a level playing field. Like when nobody rode with suspension or disc brakes. Or when all road races were on steel bicycles with friction shifting.

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam track end (dropout) maintenance?

That's a cool sounding bike. I didn't realize that there were 8mm flatted axles. My wife had a couple of three-speeds, and I built wheels for her, but I never tried to put a non-three-speed wheel into those frames. Just rebuilt with aluminum rims, and swapped wheelsets around between her Steyr

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

I also find it weird that someone stole the bike, then locked it up, coincidentally within yards of the victim's favorite cafe, and then never came back to finish stealing it (that is the story, correct?) Maybe *they* got wasted and forgot where they put it? But why not just take it completely

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam track end (dropout) maintenance?

Not a QB/S1 but I also recently filed the semi-horizontals of an old Raleigh that suffered same kind of roughness. I've probably mentioned this one previously in another thread but it's a larger than normal 3 speed/IGH Raleigh (25" size) labeled only as "Deluxe" but with Superbe details

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: MUSA wool striped longsleeve shirt (L)

Hi chaingang, The MUSA shirt is SOLD; however-- I still have the XL wool, classic Bridgestone, ORANGE jersey: Bridgestone Castelli 100% Wool Cycling Jersey size 7 or XL https://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/sets/72157661722811934 Make me an offer! Thanks =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

Careful there. That's not exactly what I said. Laing said he wanted a stripped down roadbike that took 38 or 44 tires. Steve Palinscar responded by recommending that Laing buy a Roadeo. I responded to Steve's recommendation that a Roadeo "does not take 38 or 44 tires". In one sense, I was

Re: [RBW] FS: Bar-Mounted Phone/Stuff Bag

SOLD!! --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram) > On Feb 6, 2018, at 10:50 AM, Eric Norris wrote: > > Got this in a holiday gift exchange, but I have no use for it. Nice, > brand-new Schwinn-branded bag will accommodate most phones (my iPhone X

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

Someone on a different thread on a different list mentioned Ironweed bike bags (made in Iowa!) and so I just had to go look. http://www.ironweedbp.com/gallery.html Well, on their gallery page, they have pictures of both an Atlantis (Riv content - check!) and a Moulton F-style, as well as

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

Bill Lindsay wrote that the Roadeo doesn't take 38mm tyres. That is what the official Riv geometry charts says. I however have been riding my Roadeo with Compass 700x38 tyres for at least 3000 km. Also, I'm basically at the opposite end from Laing. I wish my Roadeo came with Mid fork rack

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

> > I guess it can be said that fenders will get you through times of no rain > better than rain can get you through times of no fenders, > Laing -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

No kidding! I perv on any bike within a six block radius. I can spot a rusty UJB with the makings of a low trail 650B conversion through three office buildings and a blind alley, to say nothing of my own bike. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 10:11:46 AM UTC-8,

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

2 of my bikes have fenders and 2 don't. While I am pro fender, I am hesitant to add much more than clip ons to my dirt bikes (and even there they are usually downtube "mounted") due to safety reasons. In addition, I typically stay off the trails when they are wet to give them a break. I do

Re: [RBW] What type of bike would make you buy another riv

> > To be perfectly honest, there is a part of me that wants to get one of the >> black single TT 55 cant--Sams and move all the parts over from my orange >> double TT Sam. I do have a Dremel and black is really easy to match for >> small touch-ups. > > Laing -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

I have no real take on the issues discussed, though they are valid and to be considered, from both and all sides... But, BUT! I find it incredible that one could miss their recently stolen 2TT, 62cm?, sage green, Rivendell Hillborne while walking anywhere close to it! I know I sometimes

[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

Pete: The Rosco project is still tugging on me, too. I love the double-toptube ones, and am tempted by the 55.5cm still available. It's technically way too big for me, but I can make the seattube length work - I ride a 55cm Cheviot - and it would test my sneaking suspicion that my long

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Without humble obedience to striving for Right Relationship with our neighbor (and who isn’t our neighbor?), everything is a slippery slope, including the arguement of slippery slope to justify walking past a possible neighbor in need. Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received

Re: [RBW] What type of bike would make you buy another riv

I would like something more randonneuring oriented, medium trail for front bag load, clearance for fenders and 42mm slicks, more lightweight tubing like the Rambouillet of yore. Obviously the Rando market is not that big, so whatever Grant rationalization/riv-specific marketing speak had to be

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

I certainly get all that, and it makes a ton of sense when looked at in a certain light. I'm just pointing out that it can be a slippery slope. And I do think that laws against theft are more than just bureaucracy. And you can hear this same argument, same line of thinking applied in other

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

@TonyDe Interesting points. I was just thinking of single sized fasteners on whole bike, but don’t know how could be done. Nice to only carry one allen wrench. Maybe all the heads have only one sized allen hole even though the bolt shafts could be diff. RE: shortened tt for longer stem

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Something I’ve not seen in this discussion yet, and the reason I waited to post to this thread until an outcome was known, is that the local knowledge (including the “feel” of something just being off) can allow one to take action as a close neighbor that in a different block would be foolish.

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

lconley wrote: *If you have a serious bike hoarding disease, they don't all need to have fenders.* Of course they don't. Right now more than half of mine are fenderless. My point was (IMO, of course) it's kind of pointless to take away the possibility. But sure, no braze ons for fenders. Not

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

Whooboy... and I've become overwhelmed with just 4 (8 completes in the family, 4 each between my wife an I) and a couple old frames and boxes of spare parts. Truth be told, as an owner of only one Riv I think my 65cm Clem H is the only bike I'd realistically ever need... and although

[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

For me to buy another Riv? I don't know what it would look like, but it'd be an oddball like my 53cm Rosco road. I like the Rosco origin story, and the creativity behind it. It certainly helped sell me on the bike, no doubt. (The tire clearance, semi-horizontal drops, price, and tall headtube

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

C'mon! This is New Mexico! Besides, I have another Riv with fenders. On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 6:10 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > But how much fun is a soaking wet a$$? > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

I suppose it comes down to the classic Does the end justify the means. On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 11:57:32 AM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > Well, it certainly was the best possible outcome, and I'm happy the owner > was reunited with his bicycle! But nobody here needs to learn how >

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Well, it certainly was the best possible outcome, and I'm happy the owner was reunited with his bicycle! But nobody here needs to learn how long-winded I can be... First, of course, if the videographer had called the police and they happened to show while you were saving the bike, that would

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 8:51:54 AM UTC-7, lconley wrote: > > I have 22 bicycles, 9 of them Rivs ... > Nothing to add to the main disucssion, but DAMN. I thought I was the worst one here! You're my new hero! (Really) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

[RBW] Re: Un-un-racing update: My first ever mountain bike race

The more extreme the course, the more important it is to level the playing field. However, just as a matter of interest, an "exception that proves the rule" kind of thing, about 7 years ago our Mark entered a super rugged 50-mile mtn bike race around (the area of) Lake Tahoe. So--6-7,000 feet,

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

I have 22 bicycles, 9 of them Rivs (including FJ Jr). many of them have fenders. I spent ~21 months in the last two years in Seattle. I had several different bikes in Seattle at different times (including a fendered, belt drive, disc-braked, IGH Scott SUB 10 and a LWB Riv Protopaloosa). If you

[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

Ann, consider messaging Rivendell and discuss a custom build using the Roadeo geometry and tubing specifications. You can request the Roadeo lugs, paint, decals, and head tube badge should you desire. It will be a little more expensive than the standard size Roadeos, but it will be a custom

[RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

My 54 San Marcos is the best handling bike I've ever owned. I wish Riv would make that frame with a few more Riv touches...a little more tire clearance, a nicer bend to the fork, maybe "softer" frame tubing with more "plane." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

Sounds like it was taken from his backyard while he was inside taking a quick shower and lunch. I found it locked outside my work, near a coffee shop less than half a mile away that he said he frequents and he probably would have seen it if he had ever turned right out of the coffee shop

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

Fenders will not protect you from getting wet in the rain, no matter where you live. They do prevent road schmutz (and excess water in shorter rides in non-monsoon conditions) from being deposited all over your shoes, the bottom portion of your legs, your back, your drivetrain, and any pals

[RBW] Re: WTT: B17 (honey) for C17 Carved (black/slate)

I'll only bump this up a few times. Hoping to find a happy home for my B17 in exchange for your neglected or un-loved C17 carved! Happy to kick-in a few bucks to make the deal happen. Thanks! Bob K. in Baltimore -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[RBW] FS - Bay Area Weehoo (Pickup Only)

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[RBW] Re: Jones Bar on a Clem H, Appaloosa, or Yves Gomez?

I have found 31.8 bars to slip less at same torque values than 26 or 25.4. Maybe a function or greater surface area being clamped? While I don't care much about the stiffness gains, less slipping is welcome. For extra bad cases some friction paste usually sold for carbon bits helps. Clayton

[RBW] Re: Bay Area: 3rd Annual Escape from Super Bowl Weekend Campout

Many thanks again for putting this on. Had an a most excellent time as every year! Clayton Scott SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

I'm pretty satisfied with my 60cm Canti-Saluki, paired with a Jones Plus I officially have more bike capability than I have time in the week to thoroughly enjoy - though I try valiantly! But in the spirit of the original question... The Jones fills the place in my stable for dedicated

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

I don't think Rivendell will do no fender eyelets, even on a custom, judging by the custom order form. In Florida, the rain usually comes down so hard that you are soaked to the skin in less than a minute, fenders or not - twenty minutes later you can be completely dry because the rain has

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

On 02/05/2018 10:57 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: Damned right! Patrick Moore, with his little Dremel, his little hacksaw, his little bastard file, and his little grinding wheel, in ABQ, NM Related image The spirit that sacked Rome is hardly fazed by the likes of a fender eyelet... But

Re: [RBW] Re: What type of bike would make you buy another riv

I couldn’t agree more with Mark, and I have read Grant’s thoughts on this many times, the move to have dropouts with eyelets is one he never agreed with. It seems to me that this thread has been suggesting many bikes that are anti-Riv. Steve On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 6:44 AM 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW