[RBW] Re: Brooks Flyer saddle 25$ + shipping

[Jonathan D.]

Is this still available? I would take it. 

On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 1:00:13 PM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
> Paypal
> Made my own cutout.
> I like the Imperial Flyer I have better so goes to you.
> 25$ + buyer pays shipping.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks C15 Cambium carved all weather saddle.

[Lum Gim Fong]

Sold

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[RBW] Selle Anatomica X series saddles

[Joe Bernard]

Awful contraptions. The sides dig into my thighs, I much prefer B17s. 

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[RBW] Selle Anatomica X series saddles

[Lum Gim Fong]

Anyone have anything to say about theirs?
Like it?
Compared to Brooks?

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 57cm Leo Roadini Complete on LA Craigslist

[sameness]

Exactly! Like, I wouldn't *buy* Sora, but I'd totally *ride* Sora, ha. 
#grupposnob

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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> Sora STI 9 totally fits that bike. There's a "looks and shifts good 
> enough, let's ride" vibe to it.

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[RBW] PSA: 57cm Leo Roadini Complete on LA Craigslist

[Joe Bernard]

Nice, Sora STI 9 totally fits that bike. There's a "looks and shifts good 
enough, let's ride" vibe to it. Copper pedals! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 59cm MIT Atlantis build and (short) ride report

[Robert Barr]

Sounds good.

On Thu, Jun 28, 2018, 1:30 PM ctifusion  wrote:

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[RBW] PSA: 57cm Leo Roadini Complete on LA Craigslist

[sameness]

Looks like a decent, oddly endearing no-frills parts spec. Includes what 
looks like copper Sylvans and a Brooks B17 Special:

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/bik/d/rivendell-leo-roadini-57cm/6626005152.html

Not mine, no affiliation, etc.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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Re: [RBW] Cutting rack struts without a vice

[Patrick Moore]

Dremel, neat; heavy "pincers" -- not quite bolt cutters, just bit pincers.
This last for aluminum; I've not used on steel. Quick but need a lot of
filing for the ends.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks C15 Cambium carved all weather saddle.

[Lum Gim Fong]

Bumoin' up and trying again,

New!! Black!
Rode only about 10 miles.
Pics in this thread above.

90$ shipped Conus

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[RBW] Re: Cutting rack struts without a vice

[Clayton.sf]

Find a stair step of choice. Put strut on step. Put foot on strut. Saw 
away. 


Clayton Scott
SF, CA






On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 at 6:54:53 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> How you do it?

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[RBW] Re: Videos by Blue Lug

[Richard Rios]

great videos! I'd love to see some updated videos like this coming out of Riv 
HQ...seems to me like things have been kinda quiet on the video front for a 
good bit...really enjoyed the old Hunqa and staff videos.

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[RBW] Re: Recent Hunq Trip on the Erie

[RichS]

Marc, thanks for your enjoyable ride report. I grew up in central NY along 
the canal before there was a developed path. Fished and did a lot of 
boating on the Seneca River. Glad your journey went so well. Your Hunq 
setup is nicely put together too.

Best,
Richard

On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 10:27:04 AM UTC-4, Marc Irwin wrote:
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> Hers a link to my great week traveling the Erie on my Hunq. 
>
> http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2018/06/a-glorious-week-on-erie-canal-trail.html?m=1
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Re: [RBW] Re: 59cm MIT Atlantis build and (short) ride report

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Matt and Bob, let's make a plan! Any other Indy rivs out there? Virgil?

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Re: [RBW] Re: 59cm MIT Atlantis build and (short) ride report

[Tom M]

I do like the curved second top tube and the Cambium (?) saddle. Just a 
beautiful build. Enjoy the ride.
--Tom

On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 1:09:13 PM UTC-4, MattB wrote:
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> Bob,  I really want to see your new Atlantis.  I think the curved top 
> tubes are very cool.
>
> matt  
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 10:38 PM, Robert Barr  > wrote:
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>> Brynnar/Matt, its Bob. Looks like the Indianapolis Riv Society is going 
>> public!
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 8:38 PM MattB > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Brynnar, that is a sweet build.  Scott at ICS has built a couple of 
>>> wheels for me as well, a really good guy! I’m in Indy as well and ride what 
>>> I think is the only Hilborne, sparkly, orange Atlantis, at least the only 
>>> one I know of.
>>> We need to hook up for an Indy ramble.
>>>
>>> Matt in Indy
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[RBW] Cutting rack struts without a vice

[Joe Bernard]

Good point, Tim, I quit smoking and drinking and now I don't know how to do 
anything! ;-)

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[RBW] Re: Banana Sax alternate mounting, matchy matchy

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Daniel, thanks again. Rivelo does have Banana Sax. They're not on the website 
but John says they have them in all colors. I've got one coming!

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[RBW] Re: Velocity Cliffhanger wheelset sold

[iamkeith]

On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 7:09:25 PM UTC-6,  _ wrote:
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> My list of list-pet-peeves include: 
> ...
> -for sale posts from email users followed by an entirely NEW THREAD saying 
> the thing for sale has sold 
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>
;-)
 

On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 6:53:58 AM UTC-6, mkernan...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Hey group,  Cliffhanger wheelset has been sold

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Re: [RBW] Re: 59cm MIT Atlantis build and (short) ride report

[Matt Byam]

Bob,  I really want to see your new Atlantis.  I think the curved top tubes
are very cool.

matt

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>> Hey Brynnar, that is a sweet build.  Scott at ICS has built a couple of
>> wheels for me as well, a really good guy! I’m in Indy as well and ride what
>> I think is the only Hilborne, sparkly, orange Atlantis, at least the only
>> one I know of.
>> We need to hook up for an Indy ramble.
>>
>> Matt in Indy
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dear Riv, please make a wider Noodle

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

I had previously been caught up in the sizing differences between Nitto 
Noodles vs. RM-013 end ended up with the 48cm RM-013 thinking it would be 
as wide as the widest Noodle but actually has narrower ramp spacing than a 
48cm Noodle simply because they are measured differently (center of bar end 
to end after flare for RM-013 vs center to center of ramp before flare for 
the Noodles.)

I later found the same biketouringnews article which does show how the 48cm 
Noodle and 52cm RM-013 are a very close match in ramp to ramp width.  I'm 
still using the 48cm RM-013 but like Keith I also found the drops a little 
more comfortable when extended a bit with a barend shifter installed, or 
when not using barend shifters I'll plug with a champagne style cork with 
thicker top that better matches outer bar diameter and adds another few cm 
to the ends.

Brian Cole
Lawrenceville NJ

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[RBW] Cutting rack struts without a vice

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Joe, I thought you meant how do you cut rack struts without smoking or 
drinking. That's what a vice is. A vise, on the other hand...

If I remember right, when I cut my struts, I'm pretty sure I used an angle 
grinder with a cutting wheel, (I'm an ironworker so I brought one home from 
work) and held the strut with channel locks. A Dremel tool would probably much 
easier in that particular application. 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Dear Riv, please make a wider Noodle

[iamkeith]

Oops - in my above commentary, I referenced the wrong bar sizes.   The 
noodle bar in the pictures, and the one I replaced with the dirt drop, was 
48cm, not 46.  The even older one that made me feel claustrophobic (not 
shown) was a 46. 

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[RBW] Cutting rack struts without a vice

[Joe Bernard]

Pipe cutter. I forgot I have a pipe cutter. Doh!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dear Riv, please make a wider Noodle

[iamkeith]

On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 8:31:23 AM UTC-6, Jeff wrote:
>
> Tony, I’ve been going through a journey that I’ve written up a bit on the 
> iBob list, looking for a 46cm bar as you’ve described. I’m not sure if 
> you’re a member of that group - I can provide more detail if you’re not, 
> but the short story is that I’ve not found anything with the same reach and 
> drop as a 46cm noodle, with flared drops. .
>
 

> ...Darin - thanks for the link - I hadn't seen that particular write-up 
> but I had looked at Nitto dirt drops in the past and my impression was they 
> they were all too narrow at the ramps or where the brake levers would be. 
> Looks like I might have been wrong as the widest RM-013 looks like it could 
> be close to 46 at the brake levers  
>

Apologies, as I hadn't been reading this thread or the one on ibob that you 
reference, JeffI might have been able to help.  I recently replaced the 
46 noodles on my Ram with the Nitto/Grant dirt drop bar off of my 
Quickbeam.  ( I think RM13 is correct.  These are the ones that Riv used to 
sell.  And I think the same as the '87 MB-1?.)  

It looks like you figured it out, but  I don't perceive any meaningful 
change in reach or drop or number of hand positions.   (Remember that there 
are at* least *two versions of nitto dirt drops.)  The other differences 
are very nuanced, and I think someone would have to be a totally obsessive, 
idiosyncratic nit-picker to even care which one they had .   Unfortunately, 
I'm that kind of guy.  

I like the straighter top section because I actually use it on occasion, as 
you can see by the fact that i retained the cross top levers.  Gripping the 
noodle, where it angled back, kind of forced me to put my elbows in toward 
each other, for lack of a better way to describe it.  I can be a little 
more elbows-out on the dirt drop.  The brake levers/hoods position is 
basically identical - maybe  a tiny bit narrower but, again, not 
perceptibly.  Also, the levers do NOT angle inward or tip sideways like 
they do on a lot of newer dirt drop bars with the shallow drop.  The *big* 
thing, of course, is the extra flare and wrist clearance in the drop 
position, and that's the part I really like.

Hard to show anything meaningful in pictures as Grant noted - especially 
since one bar is installed - but I just took some snapshots for what 
they're worth:














Two other things that you can't see in the attached pictures, that helped 
me but may or may not be helpful for others, were necessitated by the Kelly 
take-off shifter mounts:  

-  The way the pod mounts under the brake lever body causes the lever to 
tip upwards, making it very difficult to grab the lever from the drop 
position.   I wrapped a lot of cloth bar tape under the top edge of the 
lever body in order to cant it back the other way.  (I hadn't figured this 
out on my noodles, and i think that was the main thing I hated and that 
prompted me to do this swap.)  

-  Without bar end shifters, the lower grip felt way too short.  So I added 
Control Tech Terminator extenders, which add a full 1" length.  That was a 
HUGE improvement and, again, something I should have tried with the 
Noodles.  Can't even begin to explain how much more comfortable and relaxed 
it is to ride now. Yes there's more room to move around, but the main 
difference is that, when I move to grab the drop during a quick maneuver, I 
always grab bar instead of sometimes grabbing air.


And  couple of other thoughts while I'm at it:   

-  The tektro brake levers 
(https://www.rivbike.com/collections/braking/products/tektro-trp-rrl-brake-levers-dark-grey-alloy-black-hoods-15179),
 
also new to this bike/bar, are great.  As noted, I  rotated them further 
forward/down than most might, in order to be even MORE accessible from the 
drops.  (the lever shape is better than most for this) But this effectively 
lengthened the ramps too, for even more upper grip area.  The pronounced 
bump at the end of the body still keeps  you from feeling like you're going 
to slide off.

 -  Even a tiny bit of extra drop bar width seems to make a big difference 
in my limited experience.  My Ram originally had 44 noodles, while the 46 
noodles were formerly on my XO-1.  

Re: [RBW] Re: Dear Riv, please make a wider Noodle

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The VO post says 31.8 only. I have yet to find a high rise, 1" quill that 
fit 31.8 bars, that isn't sinfully ugly. 

Clayton
DirtDance


On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 6:24:42 AM UTC-7, phil k wrote:
>
> Thanks Drew,
>
> These look great. I'll be waiting for when they become available.
>
> v/r,
>
> Phil
>
> On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 3:46:16 AM UTC-4, Drw wrote:
>>
>> I believe this is the new Velo Orange bar
>> https://instagram.com/p/BiwzRw5hMW-/
>
>

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[RBW] Recent Hunq Trip on the Erie

[Deacon Patrick]

Swt trip, Marc! Forcast: there will be no weather this week. All weather 
has been cancled. Grin. I love it! I can’t get over how flat it is. Tail winds 
and no three dimentional navigation? Yowza. Weird. Grin. The Amsterdam Castle 
looks somewhat similar to Inverness Castle, the current iteration of which was 
built in 1838. I imagine the feel of the history riding along the canal, 
especially with the old canal boats along the way, what a real treat. What a 
fantastic experience you had. Is your tent fully set up in the “free safe 
camping plentiful” photo? How’s it handle wind and rain? 

Great ride report. A pleasure to experience vicariously with you. Thank you.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Recent Hunq Trip on the Erie

[WETH]

Marc, 
I enjoyed your description and photographs.  The Erie looks to be a far better 
experience than I’ve gathered from other online reading.  Did you find any 
resources particularly helpful in trip planning and navigating that you’d 
recommend, especially that indicate free camping options?
Thanks,
Erl

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[RBW] Recent Hunq Trip on the Erie

[Marc Irwin]

Hers a link to my great week traveling the Erie on my Hunq. 
http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2018/06/a-glorious-week-on-erie-canal-trail.html?m=1

Marc

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dear Riv, please make a wider Noodle

[phil k]

Thanks Drew,

These look great. I'll be waiting for when they become available.

v/r,

Phil

On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 3:46:16 AM UTC-4, Drw wrote:
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> I believe this is the new Velo Orange bar
> https://instagram.com/p/BiwzRw5hMW-/

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[RBW] Re: Cutting rack struts without a vice

[phil k]

Used to use a bolt cutter. But I like hacking it off more. I use a table 
vice to hold the hacksaw up, and actually run the struts slowly through the 
hacksaw. It takes longer, but it's cleaner, and less of a chance for the 
strut to bend.

On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 at 9:54:53 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> How you do it?

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[RBW] RE: Velocity Cliffhanger wheelset sold

[mkernanwilliams]

Hey group,  Cliffhanger wheelset has been sold

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[RBW] Re: Videos by Blue Lug

[Ash]

Nice videos and cool bikes!


On Wednesday, 27 June 2018 05:38:36 UTC-7, Takashi wrote:
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> A Blue Lug staff made a couple of nice videos featuring Riv bikes.
> You can watch them here:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m42xOhm33vo
> and here:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmHviL6Jf1Y
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Takashi
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Cutting rack struts without a vice

[Eric Daume]

Once I bought an angle grinder, I cut everything with that. Zip! Done. OK,
some file work after.

I have a bench vise, I just don’t use it for that task.

Eric

On Wednesday, June 27, 2018, Joe Bernard  wrote:

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[RBW] Re: Wool at 100*+

[Ron Mc]

doesn't just have to be hot and dry - in hot and humid it works better than 
synthetics and much better than cotton.  
You can also buy some seriously thin and lightweight merino tees (150 wt) 
if you shop around.  


Egyptian cotton is the only fabric that comes close to lightweight merino.  
I have a couple of Egyptian cotton tees from a Moser catalog website and a 
really cool tee-shirt graphic - the point being the Egyptian cotton 
literally feels cool on your skin when you put the shirt on.  


On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 at 8:47:57 PM UTC-5, iamkeith wrote:
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> I like wool, but I did recently discover one disadvantage on really hot 
> days: 
>
> Here in Wyoming, there are a lot of sheep farms in the rural areas.  The 
> biting flies from those farms, which become more active the hotter it gets, 
> targetted me with a vengence while leaving lycra-clad riders much less 
> molested.
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[RBW] Cutting rack struts without a vice

[John Buglino]

A pipe/tubing cutter cuts nitto rack stays beautifully.  No Vice needed, and in 
my experience no need to file either.  In a pinch can cut SKS fender stays too, 
but they really take a toll on the cutting wheel, severely shortening the life 
of the tool.

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[RBW] Re: Cutting rack struts without a vice

[Nick Payne]

+1 on the suggestion for bolt cutters and a file...

Nick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dear Riv, please make a wider Noodle

[Drw]

I believe this is the new Velo Orange bar
https://instagram.com/p/BiwzRw5hMW-/

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