[RBW] Re: Waterford RS12 52cm with TerraFerma fork 700 or 650 plus Mafac brakes

['Jim Martin' via RBW Owners Bunch]

SOLD

On Sunday, July 15, 2018 at 7:46:27 PM UTC-6, Jim Martin wrote:
>
> Hello All:
> Waterford RS-12 built with Reynolds 753. Seat tube is 51cm c-t with head 
> tube extension. Top tube is 52cm c-c so I'll just call it a 52. The fork is 
> by Terraferma Cycles and will work with 700C or 650B wheels. See the [URL="
> http://www.terrafermacycles.com/corsa-gt.html"]Terraferma website[/URL]. 
> Mafac brakes included. Pics show a 700x28 mounted. TerraFerma website says 
> its "optimized" for up to 700x32mm. Not clear what size it will take with 
> 650s but it had 32 wit full fenders and plenty of room. 
> This frameset was built as a show piece and never ridden. It has three 
> minor paint chips and two (barely visible) scuffs that I have done my best 
> to show in the pics. The name on the top tube is unfortunately painted. 
> $500 shipped in lower 48 for frame/fork/headset/brakes. If you're 
> interested in the frame but not the fork contact me. 
> Cheers,
> Jim
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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[nick b]

I ride with a Sackville Shopsack a lot.  You can put shitloads in it and it 
expands well.  I keep double d-rings on it so it stays in well when being 
ridden on decent roads and then I use a bungee net when I'm going to be 
riding dirt.  It's VERY expandable and secure.  Maybe worth a look for 
you.  It meets all of your requirements but the outside compartments.  
However, I usually end up strapping things between the net at the bag and 
then keep a stem caddy on my bike for the rest.  I've used other basket 
bags and don't like them as much as that option.

On Saturday, July 14, 2018 at 8:24:08 AM UTC-7, Patch T wrote:
>
> A google search for Wald 137 bags show a lot more options than a year+ ago 
> when I was looking last. I had decided to opt for a rando-style bag and am 
> not sure I totally love it. I miss the basket. 
> What are folks' favorites?
>
> My main criteria are:
>
> - easy in and out
> - shoulder strappable
> - very secure to basket for 'rough' riding
> - generous volume
> - outside compartments for stowage of things
> - weatherproof
>
> Mostly familiar with Sugarloaf and Dark Realm bags. What else though?
>
> Patch
> BK/NY
>
>

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[RBW] Re: UPDATE: It Was the Worst of Times, It Was the Best of Times

[REC (Roberta)]

What a great fun way to spend the day  (and vacation).  It's tough riding 
in heat/humidity combo.  And to have that beautiful waterfall at the end of 
your ride!  I bet it felt much cooler standing in front of it, in the shade.

I hope D is loving his new ride. Enjoy the rest of your vacation. 

Roberta


On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 1:39:08 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Guess with whom I spent last week riding matching Rivendells all over 
> God’s Country? We took exactly zero good pictures with our bikes. It was 
> hotter than Hades with high humidity, and we were motivated to keep moving 
> and stave off the sweltering. We rode to the Minnehaha Falls, a spectacular 
> 7 mile ride on the bike highway that arrives at majestic waterfalls. Just 
> wait until you see! 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Billie Bar Double Up lever‽

[Joe Bernard]

The idea still works with regular mtb levers and interruptors. I doubt I would 
ever bother with it, but the flats on my Bosco Bar are wa forward of the 
rear grips/levers. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Billie Bar Double Up lever‽

[Andrew Letton]

I believe that aluminum bars that will take bar end shifters will also accept 
bar end brakes.  Some will argue that 22.2mm aluminum bars that take bar end 
shifters are such thin wall at the end that they may be too weak for bar end 
brakes. Nitto is particularly conservative about strength of their 
products...and I appreciate this!  
However...
My personal datapoint on this is that I have heat-treated aluminum 58mm Bosco 
bars (22.2mm OD) on my Bombadil, fitted with bar end and interrupter brake 
levers. I ride it as a mountain bike and a fully loaded camping bike, and I've 
had no problems in about 2 years of use. (Knock wood.)
cheers,Andrew in Oz

  From: Garth 
 To: RBW Owners Bunch  
 Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:30 AM
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Billie Bar Double Up lever‽
   


  Billie bars are aluminum and unless you used the smaller than normal 
Dia-Compe bar end levers, standard bar end levers not only won't fit, but 
because of the very thin Al thickness of a 22.2 bar, not a great idea.  I have 
bar end levers on my 56cm. steel Alba bars, and when I bought some 55cm. Al 
ones the bar end levers wouldn't fit. I emailed Nitto and they replied to NOT 
put bar end brake levers in 22.2 Al bars due to the lesser strength of the thin 
Al. Steel bars are fine, as are any 23.8 Al bar. 

Bummer  

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[RBW] Inbound commute via Sackville Street

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Shoji,

Signage symmetry! Well done, and in the swelter too!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Billie Bar Double Up lever‽

[Kainalu V.]

No, but I suppose braking produces more torque than shifting, what with big 
levers vs small levers, so shifting/Yes braking/no. Could be that it would be 
fine, like a twelver on a Mark's rack, but is not to be endorsed for 
liability's sake.

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Re: [RBW] Re: GDMBR with Adventure Cycling

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I bet your muscles don’t require a photo to know it happened! They’ll ride out 
well enough. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] WTB: Crust towel rack bar

[Brett Callahan]

This may be a long shot, but does anyone have a Towel Rack they'd part with? 
Alternately, if anyone knows a vendor with one in stock, let me know! 
Thank you, 
Brett, dreaming wide dreams in PDX

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[RBW] Re: Billie Bar Double Up lever‽

[Drw]

So, bar end brake levers are a different diameter than bar end shifters?

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[RBW] Re: Billie Bar Double Up lever‽

[Kainalu V.]

Aha. My albatross are steel, good to know. 
Running interrupters on the front and back for double lever brakes as a even 
weirder looking workaround? Anyone??

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[RBW] Re: Billie Bar Double Up lever‽

[Garth]

   Billie bars are aluminum and unless you used the smaller than normal 
Dia-Compe bar end levers, standard bar end levers not only won't fit, but 
because of the very thin Al thickness of a 22.2 bar, not a great idea.  I have 
bar end levers on my 56cm. steel Alba bars, and when I bought some 55cm. Al 
ones the bar end levers wouldn't fit. I emailed Nitto and they replied to NOT 
put bar end brake levers in 22.2 Al bars due to the lesser strength of the thin 
Al. Steel bars are fine, as are any 23.8 Al bar. 

Bummer  

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[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa, MIT Atlantis versus Jones SWB

[Belopsky]

Jones was awesome on trails, I had the LWB one. It wasn't as whippy as my now 
Santa Cruz. I bet a SWB would be fun.

I had a Clem. Stable. Boring. Got me to work just fine.

Atlantis was decent, stiff and overbuilt for my use and weight. I do miss it. 
It fit well.

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[RBW] Billie Bar Double Up lever‽

[Kainalu V.]

The Billie bars look like good candidates for doubling up on brake levers, with 
reverse brake levers in the ends and interrupters up front. That would leave 
you with a huge chunk of uninterrupted bar that's always within finger shot of 
a lever. I did it once with albatross bars but didn't need that much lever 
coverage, but those billies are hge! Looks dorky, yes., but no? Hope 
somebody tries it out.
-Kai 
BKNY 

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[RBW] Re: I got a new Clem!

[Joe Bernard]

Clem, Black Commuter Bags Edition. Ortlieb trunk bag, Road Runner Co-Pilot. No 
e-kit, I don't think that's happening this time. I still have one on a folding 
bike, but it was really more of a need/want when I lived on bigger hills in 
Vallejo. The stock/Grant gearing on this bike is perfect for the rides around 
here. 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/n5uKfWfyoJ5o5LJo6

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[RBW] 53cm MIT Atlantis built...almost

[Kainalu V.]

Really really nice, that wheelbase is such a wonderful stabilizer when things 
get rough. My Clem's saved me just yesterday when I happened upon a surprise 
drop off on one side of the Mayor's fresh mulch pile...
Enjoy the ride
-Kai 
BKNY 

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[RBW] Re: 53cm MIT Atlantis built...almost

[Brett Callahan]

Beautiful build, Lester. Billies didn't work for me on a 59, but they look 
just perfect on your build. Enjoy it!

On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 10:02:04 AM UTC-7, Lester Lammers wrote:
>
> The image has a bit of perspective distortion and the bars look a bit 
> weird. The fit is excellent. Billie bars with a 13cm Tallus gives me 3 
> usable hand positions. The Billie's have a lot of sweep and an appropriate 
> TT length and longish stem, IMHO, is needed to not feel cramped. With a 
> 82.5 PBH I was at the top of the 50cm and bottom of the 53. The 53 is a 
> perfect fit and I have enough space between the TT and my 'junk'.I don't 
> plan to use this as a MTB. As others have said, the long chainstays are 
> most excellent.
>
> VO Diagonale wheels, Nitto seat post, Berthoud Aspin saddle w/cutout, (got 
> it when Wall Bike was closing shop) Stem mounted shifters work well with 
> the Billie bars. Paul cantilevers and brake levers. Shimano 
> derailleurs.40/32 crank set...may go to a 43 outer, Soma Demi Porteur 
>  front rack and Ergon grips coming, undecided on rear rack. 
>
> I like the Billie bars a lot and if I would have gone with a 50cm frame I 
> don't think they would have worked as well for me. Big smile overall. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 53cm MIT Atlantis built...almost

[dougP]

The more photos I see of the long chainstays, the more "just right" they 
look.  And the comfort is real.  Great looking build.  

dougP

On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 10:02:04 AM UTC-7, Lester Lammers wrote:
>
> The image has a bit of perspective distortion and the bars look a bit 
> weird. The fit is excellent. Billie bars with a 13cm Tallus gives me 3 
> usable hand positions. The Billie's have a lot of sweep and an appropriate 
> TT length and longish stem, IMHO, is needed to not feel cramped. With a 
> 82.5 PBH I was at the top of the 50cm and bottom of the 53. The 53 is a 
> perfect fit and I have enough space between the TT and my 'junk'.I don't 
> plan to use this as a MTB. As others have said, the long chainstays are 
> most excellent.
>
> VO Diagonale wheels, Nitto seat post, Berthoud Aspin saddle w/cutout, (got 
> it when Wall Bike was closing shop) Stem mounted shifters work well with 
> the Billie bars. Paul cantilevers and brake levers. Shimano 
> derailleurs.40/32 crank set...may go to a 43 outer, Soma Demi Porteur 
>  front rack and Ergon grips coming, undecided on rear rack. 
>
> I like the Billie bars a lot and if I would have gone with a 50cm frame I 
> don't think they would have worked as well for me. Big smile overall. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa, MIT Atlantis versus Jones SWB

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Jonathan, I am a big fan of the Ti bikes I own (Seven, Blacksheep and the 
Jones).  In all of these bikes I feel a smoothness when I ride that isn't 
always present in others.  I certainly like steel and have never owned a 
carbon fiber, so that is my universe of experience in frame materials.  I 
think the Jones is well proportioned to me in reach and general set up so 
that helps too.  Just a combination of a lot of different factors that come 
together in this particular bike that makes it a real treat for me to 
ride.  Sorry if that all sounds very vague.

On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 4:17:33 PM UTC-4, Jonathan D. wrote:
>
> Chris.  Just curious why you think it is a superlative ride?  Any 
> comparisons in terms of ride and feel?

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[RBW] Re: 53cm MIT Atlantis built...almost

[Lester Lammers]

The long stem was necessary to get the bar 'right' and have three hand 
positions. Shortening them would, IMHO, reduce the utility.

On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 3:19:53 PM UTC-4, ctifusion wrote:
>
> Looks great. I like the long stem.
>
>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: 53cm MIT Atlantis built...almost

[ctifusion]

Looks great. I like the long stem.

On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 1:02:04 PM UTC-4, Lester Lammers wrote:
>
> The image has a bit of perspective distortion and the bars look a bit 
> weird. The fit is excellent. Billie bars with a 13cm Tallus gives me 3 
> usable hand positions. The Billie's have a lot of sweep and an appropriate 
> TT length and longish stem, IMHO, is needed to not feel cramped. With a 
> 82.5 PBH I was at the top of the 50cm and bottom of the 53. The 53 is a 
> perfect fit and I have enough space between the TT and my 'junk'.I don't 
> plan to use this as a MTB. As others have said, the long chainstays are 
> most excellent.
>
> VO Diagonale wheels, Nitto seat post, Berthoud Aspin saddle w/cutout, (got 
> it when Wall Bike was closing shop) Stem mounted shifters work well with 
> the Billie bars. Paul cantilevers and brake levers. Shimano 
> derailleurs.40/32 crank set...may go to a 43 outer, Soma Demi Porteur 
>  front rack and Ergon grips coming, undecided on rear rack. 
>
> I like the Billie bars a lot and if I would have gone with a 50cm frame I 
> don't think they would have worked as well for me. Big smile overall. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 53cm MIT Atlantis built...almost

[Ash]

Congrats Lester!

Picked up my 53cm frame and a pair of Velocity Cliffhangers from Riv last 
weekend.  Under construction now!


On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 10:02:04 UTC-7, Lester Lammers wrote:
>
> The image has a bit of perspective distortion and the bars look a bit 
> weird. The fit is excellent. Billie bars with a 13cm Tallus gives me 3 
> usable hand positions. The Billie's have a lot of sweep and an appropriate 
> TT length and longish stem, IMHO, is needed to not feel cramped. With a 
> 82.5 PBH I was at the top of the 50cm and bottom of the 53. The 53 is a 
> perfect fit and I have enough space between the TT and my 'junk'.I don't 
> plan to use this as a MTB. As others have said, the long chainstays are 
> most excellent.
>
> VO Diagonale wheels, Nitto seat post, Berthoud Aspin saddle w/cutout, (got 
> it when Wall Bike was closing shop) Stem mounted shifters work well with 
> the Billie bars. Paul cantilevers and brake levers. Shimano 
> derailleurs.40/32 crank set...may go to a 43 outer, Soma Demi Porteur 
>  front rack and Ergon grips coming, undecided on rear rack. 
>
> I like the Billie bars a lot and if I would have gone with a 50cm frame I 
> don't think they would have worked as well for me. Big smile overall. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 53cm MIT Atlantis built...almost

[Paul Choi]

Looks great! I'm eagerly waiting for the next shipment of Billie's to come 
in, maybe late this week. 

On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 10:02:04 AM UTC-7, Lester Lammers wrote:
>
> The image has a bit of perspective distortion and the bars look a bit 
> weird. The fit is excellent. Billie bars with a 13cm Tallus gives me 3 
> usable hand positions. The Billie's have a lot of sweep and an appropriate 
> TT length and longish stem, IMHO, is needed to not feel cramped. With a 
> 82.5 PBH I was at the top of the 50cm and bottom of the 53. The 53 is a 
> perfect fit and I have enough space between the TT and my 'junk'.I don't 
> plan to use this as a MTB. As others have said, the long chainstays are 
> most excellent.
>
> VO Diagonale wheels, Nitto seat post, Berthoud Aspin saddle w/cutout, (got 
> it when Wall Bike was closing shop) Stem mounted shifters work well with 
> the Billie bars. Paul cantilevers and brake levers. Shimano 
> derailleurs.40/32 crank set...may go to a 43 outer, Soma Demi Porteur 
>  front rack and Ergon grips coming, undecided on rear rack. 
>
> I like the Billie bars a lot and if I would have gone with a 50cm frame I 
> don't think they would have worked as well for me. Big smile overall. 
>
>

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[RBW] 53cm MIT Atlantis built...almost

[Lester Lammers]

The image has a bit of perspective distortion and the bars look a bit 
weird. The fit is excellent. Billie bars with a 13cm Tallus gives me 3 
usable hand positions. The Billie's have a lot of sweep and an appropriate 
TT length and longish stem, IMHO, is needed to not feel cramped. With a 
82.5 PBH I was at the top of the 50cm and bottom of the 53. The 53 is a 
perfect fit and I have enough space between the TT and my 'junk'.I don't 
plan to use this as a MTB. As others have said, the long chainstays are 
most excellent.

VO Diagonale wheels, Nitto seat post, Berthoud Aspin saddle w/cutout, (got 
it when Wall Bike was closing shop) Stem mounted shifters work well with 
the Billie bars. Paul cantilevers and brake levers. Shimano 
derailleurs.40/32 crank set...may go to a 43 outer, Soma Demi Porteur 
 front rack and Ergon grips coming, undecided on rear rack. 

I like the Billie bars a lot and if I would have gone with a 50cm frame I 
don't think they would have worked as well for me. Big smile overall. 

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[RBW] Joe Appaloosa, MIT Atlantis versus Jones SWB

[T Cal]

Oops - should be “bikepacking”

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[RBW] Joe Appaloosa, MIT Atlantis versus Jones SWB

[T Cal]

I have a relatively new Ti jones plus lwb diamond frame with truss fork and 
rohloff hub.  I already owned several rivs: QB, ram, Clem L, appa/mystery bike, 
Sam Hilbourne.  My Sam is setup as the most off-roadish of the five. To me, the 
Jones rides quite different and has very different capabilities. It is more 
versatile and at least as comfortable.  The jones climbs anything and goes over 
everything. In June I did a week+ mixed terrain backpacking trip in England. 
The jones was fantastic. Any of my rivs would have worked less well - much less 
well on some parts. I love the rivs, but the Jones, to me, is a different 
animal. 

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Joe Bernard]

Ian, your question was why most basket bags aren't designed with long handles. 
Your solution for them works, but if I was designing a basket bag..no way José. 
The trick is to offer a detachable long strap and let the buyer decide if they 
want to use it. Making it a permanent part of the bag and hoping they don't 
screw it up sounds like a liability nightmare. 

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[RBW] Inbound commute via Sackville Street

[Shoji Takahashi]

Rode my AHH through Bunker Hill on a steamy Tuesday morning in Boston. I 
made a quick stop at Sackville Street-- Medium Saddlesack and Medium 
Shopsack with me on this journey. 

Shoji 
Arlington MA


https://goo.gl/maps/NJnZBxrLjJ12

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[RBW] Link to the Riv copy on the Stick pack?

[DarinM]

Maybe look through the Riv Readers shared here by Reed (and others) recently?

Darin

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[ian m]

Having ridden with cloth totes in a basket for many years I can say with 
confidence neither visual nor reality has ever been a problem.

Plus, with a nice canvas rolltop, you would roll the handles right up!

On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 10:21:28 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The problem with long handles in baskets over spinning wheels...I'll let 
> the visual take you from there. 

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report - HHH W Overnighter and Beer Sampling Adventure

[Shoji Takahashi]

Cute picture! Agreed: the HHH has terrific handling at slow speeds, and 
also fast riding down hills. I've got a Burley Piccolo trail-a-bike 
attached to get my two kids around town.

Shoji 
Arlington MA

On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 9:17:26 AM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZMZSLPpNAY8maYxy6
>
> Stoker in training!  In a very related note I've learned that a surly junk 
> strap makes an amazing quick bike lashing to stabilize/lock down this bike 
> when parked.  Another use for the Jones loop bar - lashing point.  And 
> since our big trip to weeks ago any time the tandem is out in the yard - 
> whenever I'm doing something else in the garage, Rebecca is trying to climb 
> up the pedals to the saddles.  I'm going to take that as another indication 
> of a successful trip.
>
> Another trickle down benefit of the longer trip for me has been increased 
> confidence in the build and general bike handling. We've taken two fairly 
> short of the moment ~10 milers since the Leesburg trip.  The bike was ready 
> with no fiddling and all three of us got right back in sync.  Post 
> Alexandria city fireworks on 6 July we had quite the opportunity to do 
> close quarters, crowded pedestrians and cars everywhere at night riding 
> home. Very slow speed maneuvering, sudden stops and some creative steering 
> all worked out fine.  This would have been challenging on single bikes but 
> the HHH did just fine.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[Patch T]

Again, thanks all for your replies.

I think I am mostly sold on the Outer Shell. It's pretty much a rando bag 
fit for a basket, best of both worlds. I like the one-handed open/close 
function. Also, seems there is a bit of an inner sleeve with a closure that 
can expand some to accommodate the rare large load. Not as roomy as a 
rolltop, though. Map case, external pocket, internal pockets. I love 
pockets.

p

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report - HHH W Overnighter and Beer Sampling Adventure

[Tony DeFilippo]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZMZSLPpNAY8maYxy6

Stoker in training!  In a very related note I've learned that a surly junk 
strap makes an amazing quick bike lashing to stabilize/lock down this bike when 
parked.  Another use for the Jones loop bar - lashing point.  And since our big 
trip to weeks ago any time the tandem is out in the yard - whenever I'm doing 
something else in the garage, Rebecca is trying to climb up the pedals to the 
saddles.  I'm going to take that as another indication of a successful trip.

Another trickle down benefit of the longer trip for me has been increased 
confidence in the build and general bike handling. We've taken two fairly short 
of the moment ~10 milers since the Leesburg trip.  The bike was ready with no 
fiddling and all three of us got right back in sync.  Post Alexandria city 
fireworks on 6 July we had quite the opportunity to do close quarters, crowded 
pedestrians and cars everywhere at night riding home. Very slow speed 
maneuvering, sudden stops and some creative steering all worked out fine.  This 
would have been challenging on single bikes but the HHH did just fine.

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[RBW] Link to the Riv copy on the Stick pack?

[Tony DeFilippo]

I recently picked up a stickpack used here.  Good looking bag, first impression 
is that it's smaller than I expected but well made as you'd expect.

I did some searching but couldn't find any archived Riv product description or 
much discussion here. Anyone care to share a link?  Also curious if any other 
users have a suggestion for water bottles that for those side pickets.

Thanks,
Tony

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[RBW] Re: Wald 137 bag recommendations?

[ChrisB]

Hi Patch

Another data point:

I've got the larger Wald basket on my bike; I'm totally sold on it for 
versatility and ease of use. A bag that fits perfectly, has many colour 
options and meets a lot of your criteria is the Patagonia Tormiro Pack. It 
has two neatly designed external pockets that's are accessible when the bag 
is flat in the basket and a laptop sleeve. Off the bike, it's a 
bucket-style rucksack and kind of vintage-looking.

Often on discount plus it's Patagonia; well made and conscientious goods. 
Just put a net over the top if you're bounding down single-track!

Best, Chris

On Saturday, 14 July 2018 16:24:08 UTC+1, Patch T wrote:
>
> A google search for Wald 137 bags show a lot more options than a year+ ago 
> when I was looking last. I had decided to opt for a rando-style bag and am 
> not sure I totally love it. I miss the basket. 
> What are folks' favorites?
>
> My main criteria are:
>
> - easy in and out
> - shoulder strappable
> - very secure to basket for 'rough' riding
> - generous volume
> - outside compartments for stowage of things
> - weatherproof
>
> Mostly familiar with Sugarloaf and Dark Realm bags. What else though?
>
> Patch
> BK/NY
>
>

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[RBW] Waterford RS12 52cm with TerraFerma fork 700 or 650 plus Mafac brakes

[Fullylugged]

Jim:

I'm interested in this one but don't see your email anywhere. Can you email me 
at fullylugged at yahoo dot com?

Thanks

   Bruce

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[RBW] OT FS: Crust Lightning Bolt, Small

[Fullylugged]

I'm riding a NOS Brooks B15 on my Ram that was rock hard when I got it.  It was 
slathered in Proofide and set on the shelf for several months.  Softened up 
considerably and has been a good seat since then. I maintain it with Obenaufs.

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[RBW] Re: Carradice Bags for sale

[Steve Butcher]

I have a buyer for the panniers, so the Cadet bag with lashing straps and 
the Zippered Roll are still available.  I'd sell the Cadet w/straps for 
$75.00 shipped CONUS and the Zippered Roll for $50.00 shipped CONUS or both 
bags as a package for $100.00 shipped CONUS.  PM me if you're interested.

Steve

On Wednesday, July 11, 2018 at 6:35:51 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote:
>
> I have someone who is interested in the Cadet bag, alone.  Would anyone 
> else be interested in the two panniers and zippered roll bag for $175.00 
> shipped CONUS?  The whole set is still available; just tossing in an option.
>
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2018 at 6:20:09 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>> Hello Bunch,
>>
>> As the bag purging continues, I've decided to offer for sale this set of 
>> Carradice bags:  2-Kendall Panniers, 1-Cadet bag (with extra cargo straps), 
>> and 1-Zippered Roll.  As you can see, they are all black.  The panniers 
>> were used on one tour for about 4 days otherwise have been stored in my 
>> garage.  The Cadet is in like-new condtion.  The Zipper Roll has seen a 
>> little more use but is still in excellent condition.  All mounting straps 
>> are included.  All are free of damage with all straps, stitching, fabric, 
>> and mounting brackets intact.  The panniers did have a bit of mildew odor 
>> from storage (kind of like Army Surplus canvas) but I wiped them down and 
>> am letting them air out.  Retail on this set would be around $370.00 before 
>> shipping.  I'm asking $250.00 shipped CONUS for the entire set.  Please PM 
>> me with questions or offers.  
>>
>> Thanks, 
>> Steve Butcher 
>> Stockton, Missouri  
>>
>

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