Re: [RBW] Re: FS: MIT Atlantis 53cm

[Ed Fausto]

Thanks Doug, unfortunately according to Riv sizing chart the 53 is too
large.

On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 12:42 PM dougP  wrote:

> Have you checked this against Riv's sizing charts?  One of the advantages
> of the new designs is that they fit a wider range of people.
>
> dougP
>
> On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 7:27:20 PM UTC-7, ed wrote:
>>
>> Hi Joe,
>> Your 53 Atlantis is too tall for my 80 pbh and I am only 5'-5":-(
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 10:05 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Call me, Ed! I'm 5'-7" and it fits great with the Loops!
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: MIT Atlantis 53cm

[Joe Bernard]

This is true, my PBH is 79-80ish. The only way I could drop down to a 50 MIT-A 
is if I was using drop or Moustache bars. In fact I'd need a 56 to get the 
reach right for Boscos. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: MIT Atlantis 53cm

[dougP]

Have you checked this against Riv's sizing charts?  One of the advantages 
of the new designs is that they fit a wider range of people.  

dougP

On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 7:27:20 PM UTC-7, ed wrote:
>
> Hi Joe,
> Your 53 Atlantis is too tall for my 80 pbh and I am only 5'-5":-(
>
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 10:05 AM Joe Bernard  > wrote:
>
>> Call me, Ed! I'm 5'-7" and it fits great with the Loops!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Black cyclists

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Well Dave, I thought you added a bit more than, cultural differences,and 
people confuse them,  that's it. You went on to add that they have their 
thing and you have yours and what's the big deal--"*different cultures 
gravitate to different things, and there's nothing wrong with it.  It's 
just the way it is.*"  

It comes off as though, hey, everyone had an equal chance at this 
smorgasbord of different activities, and blacks gravitated to x, y, and z, 
not a, b, or c, because of black culture. Cool, no problem, just the way it 
is. 

Except not exactly, right. Some activities were "easier" to break the 
racial barrier in, some, not so "easy." To my ears your statement is 
cavalier. To say that I "peeled layers to tease out some specific factors" 
is a bit disingenuous, making it sound like semantic contortions were 
necessary to make some fairly obvious points. Any meaningful discussions of 
race are going to mostly encompass "culture," not genetic differences 
between races.

No, you did not say black people don't like riding bikes. You said *"So 
there aren't many black cyclists---so what?  It's not their thing.  They 
have other things."*

You mentioned Grant's "issue" with this, but said you don't share his 
concern. Grant is a public person who runs a company that presents a 
certain image to the world. So he is in a different position. He is also 
someone who tries to incorporate his beliefs into his business. It's a 
tricky thing to try to tackle the issues around race in this regard, 
perhaps most so when you happen to be a white guy, and it may be 
ill-advised and he has certainly drawn flack for his ruminations on catalog 
shots and reparations.

But it's one of the ways to start some dialog, despite possible false 
starts or receiving ire. When I was publishing my cycling magazine in the 
1990s, I thought about this a bit.  I had some variety on my cover and in 
my content that skewed in favor of under-represented cyclists--i.e, anyone 
who was not a youngish white guy**.  I never kept score, it happened mostly 
organically as good stories presented themselves, but looking back, the 
count ended up 4 white guys (two of the same guy, local legend Mike 
McCarthy) 5 white females, 4 black guys (including Messenger 29, a comic 
character) 1 black girl (M29s daughter, Kyla, also a comic character), a 
white male-female couple, 2 Hispanic guys (on one cover) and possibly 1 
transgender person (which I was clueless about until someone told me later) 
and one crowd melting pot shot from the 5 Boro Tour.

*(For the record, I don't have angst or guilt over being a white guy, 
and the little I've heard about reparations doesn't sound like a good idea 
or very feasible on a number of fronts)*


*Some photos of the covers and a few inside pages here: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/YKsMN2sx6wgPPvjJ6 
*

On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 9:24:23 PM UTC-4, Dave Small wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> My stance is that differences attributed to race are often differences in 
> culture.  That's it.  They're cultural differences, not racial differences. 
>  You peeled a couple of layers away from that to tease out some specific 
> factors that might *create* cultural differences, and I don't disagree 
> with them.  Your points about football and basketball versus golf et al. 
> are good ones and are probably valid, but my point wasn't to dissect the 
> *reasons* for differences, only to point out that they *exist* and that 
> people confuse them.  
>

No 

>
> Interesting, by the way, that you mentioned Major Taylor given his 
> environment growing up.  A lone example doesn't prove anything, but it's 
> consistent with my premise.
>
> By the way, I didn't say black people don't like riding bikes, but I think 
> you already know that.  
>
> Dave
> Boston/Indy
> 
>
> On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 6:53:12 AM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dave Small wrote:
>> *"**The purported paucity of black cyclists is a cultural phenomenon, 
>> not a racial phenomenonSo there aren't many black cyclists---so what? 
>>  It's not their thing.  They have other things.  Their things aren't my 
>> things, and they're not trying to get me involved in their things because 
>> they're their things and they don't care that they're not my things, 
>> too  It's just the way it is..."*
>>
>> So your stance is, black people as a group just don't like riding bikes, 
>> because, "black culture". Maybe. But you have to take into account the fact 
>> that "cultures" overlap, interact, and affect one another when they exist 
>> in the same country--a country that for a portion of its history allowed 
>> members of one race to own members of another race. The first iteration of 
>> the League of American Wheelmen banned non-white cyclists in 1894, in part 
>> due to the success of Major Taylor.  
>>
>> *"Most NBA and NFL players are black, but few hockey players, race car 
>> drivers, or 

[RBW] Re: FS: 52cm Sam Hillborne, Canti posts, 650b

[Joe Bernard]

I can't WAIT to see that Hunqapillar!

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: MIT Atlantis 53cm

[Joe Bernard]

Whelp!

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[RBW] Re: FS: 52cm Sam Hillborne, Canti posts, 650b

[Adam]

Thanks for the link to the sizing chart. I’ve added it to my craigslist listing 
as well. I did indeed use the fork braze ons for a low riders at one point and 
was really happy with them. It’s truly a beautifully functioning bike that I 
hope finds a good new home. I’ll also post a picture to the group of my new 
hunqapillar build that I’m picking up tomorrow.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: MIT Atlantis 53cm

[Ed Fausto]

Hi Joe,
Your 53 Atlantis is too tall for my 80 pbh and I am only 5'-5":-(

On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 10:05 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:

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[RBW] Ride Report: Three Days, Three States, Three Countries

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thank you, all! I am delighted you enjoy the vicarious journey through the 
pixels. Grin.

Patrick, Aye. Monks strive for contemplation in prayer, which I've heard 
defined as entering so fully into the now that all nows are present and that is 
to taste God.Out here, beauty strikes like a bludger. Grin.

Andy, Ah! The scents light up the olfactory "flavonoid" centers of the brain. 
The cooler air punctuates them, brings a bold edge to the sage and piñon blunt 
force. and draws out a sweet deepness to the wafts of angelic floral wings. 
Then the crisp purple morning before dawn blends beautifully with the moist 
tangy piercing mountain herbs added to the sage and piñon. One of the things 
that "wakes up" my brain is these flavonoid centers in the brain (not medically 
correct usage, but I think you'll know what I mean). I'm always reminded of the 
descriptions of scents in "Heidi" and their healing powers.

Carla, I'll let Tolkien answer your question, via Bilbo: “The Road goes ever on 
and on. Down from the door where it began. Now far ahead the Road has gone, and 
I must follow, if I can, pursuing it with eager feet, until it joins some 
larger way where many paths and errands meet. And whither then? I cannot say” 
(Fellowship of the Ring).

Paul, Enjoy Colorado, especially the bits that are accessible with all this 
amazing lingering snow! Holler if you'll be down Colorado Springs way. It's 
1x11, unsure the details, but gear range is 18"-78" and I used the full range, 
though I tend to shift 3-6 at a time as fixed gear ruined me for nuanced 
shifting. I like being ruined in that way. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: MIT Atlantis 53cm

[Joe Bernard]

Call me, Ed! I'm 5'-7" and it fits great with the Loops!

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Yves Gomez - $975 - F/F/HS plus shipping

[jamison brosseau]

How tall is the headtube?  I have a 62 Betty foy and it is 8”.  If this were 
taller I would consider it.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: MIT Atlantis 53cm

[Ed Fausto]

Hey, someone should purchase this 53 Atlantis.
By the way, this particular size is not anymore available from Riv.
It this were a size 50 I would be calling Joe already :-)
Edgar

On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 8:54 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Microshift trigger shifter, not thumbie shown in other photo.
>
> On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 5:48:25 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
> > Hey, remember this? Yeah, I gotta sell it. My increasingly painful right
> wrist which kept decreasing my ride time has been diagnosed as
> arthritis..I've purchased a Crank Forward bike so I can keep riding. I
> spent a ton of cash on this at Analog Cycles a few months ago so it won't
> be cheap, but less than I have in it.
> >
> > MIT Atlantis frame 53cm, blackout treatment for parts.
> > White Ind. MI5 rear hub, SON dynohub, Sapim black spokes, gold nipples,
> Cliffhanger rims, Simworks The Homage 650B x 43 tubeless tires
> > Simworks by Honjo fenders
> >
> > Black Mark's Rack, Herrmans H-Black Pro headlight, B taillight (both
> dyno)
> > Cane Creak 110 headset
> > Origin8 stem, Jones Loop 710 bars
> > Ritchey post
> > Sugino double crank set up as 1x 36t
> > Paul Chainkeeper
> > Microshift Advent 9-speed derailer, shifter, 11-42 cassette, Wipperman
> nickel chain
> > Bombshell black/gold v-brakes, Shimano levers
> > Paul gold w/ black inserts skewers
> > Black Nitto cage
> >
> > I also have a just shipped blacked out Nitto Big Rack from Analog,
> haven't installed, not included in this price but we can talk. Bike
> currently has only the front rack.
> > No saddle or pedals.
> >
> > Yes, it's gorgeous, and it's deeply painful that I can't ride it but
> it's literally too painful to do so...age and my family's history with
> arthritis have caught up to me.
> >
> > $3300 plus Bicycle Odyssey packing (they're good) and Bike Flights
> shipping
> > Email or text for more pics, chit-chat and whatnot
> > 415 786 4623
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Re: [RBW] Re: Black cyclists

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Mark,

My stance is that differences attributed to race are often differences in 
culture.  That's it.  They're cultural differences, not racial differences. 
 You peeled a couple of layers away from that to tease out some specific 
factors that might *create* cultural differences, and I don't disagree with 
them.  Your points about football and basketball versus golf et al. are 
good ones and are probably valid, but my point wasn't to dissect the 
*reasons* for differences, only to point out that they *exist* and that 
people confuse them.  

Interesting, by the way, that you mentioned Major Taylor given his 
environment growing up.  A lone example doesn't prove anything, but it's 
consistent with my premise.

By the way, I didn't say black people don't like riding bikes, but I think 
you already know that.  

Dave
Boston/Indy


On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 6:53:12 AM UTC-4, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
>
> Dave Small wrote:
> *"**The purported paucity of black cyclists is a cultural phenomenon, not 
> a racial phenomenonSo there aren't many black cyclists---so what?  It's 
> not their thing.  They have other things.  Their things aren't my things, 
> and they're not trying to get me involved in their things because they're 
> their things and they don't care that they're not my things, too  It's 
> just the way it is..."*
>
> So your stance is, black people as a group just don't like riding bikes, 
> because, "black culture". Maybe. But you have to take into account the fact 
> that "cultures" overlap, interact, and affect one another when they exist 
> in the same country--a country that for a portion of its history allowed 
> members of one race to own members of another race. The first iteration of 
> the League of American Wheelmen banned non-white cyclists in 1894, in part 
> due to the success of Major Taylor.  
>
> *"Most NBA and NFL players are black, but few hockey players, race car 
> drivers, or professional golfers are"*
>
> Again, your supposition is this is because blacks in general just don't 
> care much for hockey, car racing, or golf.  However, basketball and 
> football are public school sports, and can also be played with a minimum of 
> equipment outside of institutional settings. Hockey and golf are 
> historically more the purview of prep schools. The economic opportunities 
> that blacks have often been excluded from mean they are not as 
> well-represented at these private institutions. Race car driving has a 
> strong Southern background, which may or may not mean something. I bet you 
> could look into it. Golf has an interesting "cultural" past that may have 
> influenced black culture in the U.S.: 
> https://www.complex.com/sports/2011/06/the-most-racist-moments-in-golf-history/kelly-tilghman
>  
>
>
> Still seems to be happening in places: 
>
> https://www.golf.com/tour-news/2018/04/26/fallout-continues-alleged-discriminatory-golf-course-incident
>
>
> *Really, there's much ado about nothing here. ..*
>
> Well, I would not speak for others as to whether or not this is true. 
> Perhaps you are right. I think discussions about race are a good thing. But 
> probably more useful when everyone is at the table.
>
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[RBW] Randi Jo Fab Products for The Most Famous of the Foys

[Meade Anderson]

Hydro flask or stainless steel equivalent insulated bottles for ice water are 
nothing short of great...that’s what I use packed with ice. If I’m not using a 
bar bag I have one of those large Two Fish cages with a Voile rubber strap or 
equivalent strap...regardless...all hail ice water on hot rides...

Meade

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[RBW] Ride Report: Three Days, Three States, Three Countries

[in Dallas nick]

Hi Patrick, 




I enjoyed pics and narrative as usual. 


Thanks for sharing.




You probably have shared your gearing set up


somewhere. 




Mind listing it again?




Paul in Dallas


Actually enjoying a Colorado adventure myself this week in vicinity of 
Steamboat  Springs,  a lovely area also.




12 miles today on a rental bike.


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[RBW] Ride Report: Three Days, Three States, Three Countries

[Carla Waugh]

Where did you leave from? Great story and photographs!!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: SRAM quick link release, g-r-r-r-r-r

[Patrick Moore]

If the chain is for 8 speeds, the problem is very certainly dirt (unless
the links or chain are damaged).

FWIW -- you may know this -- you don't need a 8 or 7 or 5 or special ss
speed chains on ss's if you use a 3/32" cog; I use 9 speed chains on my
fixies because I use Dingles which require a chain this narrow, but these
work just as well on singles. Hell, I've used 10 speed chains on 3/32
single cogs too; and I daresay even 11 speed ones would work.

On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 9:53 AM George Schick  wrote:

> ...  The chain with the problem was a SRAM PC-830, an 8-speed.  Normally,
> I don't have too much of a problem getting these links to come apart,
> usually with a bit of penetrating oil to loosen things up.  But over the
> years I have noticed that the longer these chain links are left unserviced,
> the more difficult it is to get them to separate.  The one I was working
> with yesterday was on my general purpose utility bike and it had not been
> removed or cleaned for quite a number of years.  The bike is set up as a
> single speed which is why I installed the 8-speed chain on it.  The chain
> being used on my 9-speed comes apart relatively easy, but then I remove,
> clean, and re-lubricate it much more frequently.
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: 51cm MIT Homer frameset

[Ash]

Please PM me.. 

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[RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

[Adam Leibow]

I didn't read the whole thread so apologies if this has been stated: the 
tire pressures required for tandem weights are much higher than normal to 
support two peoples' weight. Compass EL seems risky to me for sidewall blow 
out. I have the WTB horizons on mine, which seem just strong enough not to 
cause worry but ride fairly lively and smooth. 

On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 2:35:21 PM UTC-8, René wrote:
>
> Since today I paid for my tandem wheel set that Rich built, I've started 
> thinking about tires for the tandem. Being a Compass tires fan, their best 
> option is the 650b 48mm  Switchback Hill. 
>
> I wonder if tires for a tandem have some specific requirements vs. tires 
> for a regular bike that I'm not aware of. There would also be the 
> consideration of the casing, standard vs. extra-light. All my Compass tires 
> are extra-light and I just love them.
>
> Any suggestions, feedback or insights? 
>
> This will be my first tandem ever.
>
> René 
>

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[RBW] Re: Brewing tips for Cold Coffee Whilst Bikepacking

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Update: Oh! How wonderful it was to have fresh brewed cold coffee while 
bikepacking this past weekend. The penultimate brew came on the last day, in 
which I woke enveloped in fog at 10,000 feet and 34˚F. I filled the brewing 
thermos the rest of the way (I get the grounds wet after drinking the previous 
round, but the water in the bottles is warm then, so just a bit to get them 
brewing overnight, then fill with cold water in the morning), wondering all the 
while how much I'd enjoy cold brew on a day like this. 65 miles later, the sun 
was a toasty 70˚F in a blue sky over the piñon forests of Salida and my 20oz of 
cold coffee were just the thing. Here's what I did/learned cold brewing 
bikepacking:

- Hario grinder gave up the ghost so ground the beans before I left. Worked 
well, but am in need of a better quality travel grinder.
- 20oz wide-mouth Klean Kanteen thermos. Widemouth is easier to get the grounds 
in and out, but insulates far less. May look into their new system with budget 
allows. It would be a bigger thermos too. Grin.
- As described above, I soak the grinds the afternoon before, getting them just 
wet enough to bloom and let them soak overnight in the too-warm for cold coffee 
water. First thing in the morning, the now cold water fills the thermos, which 
keeps it fairly cool throughout the day. The warmer the morning, the warmer the 
cold brew.
- I line my mug with a bandana, shake the thermos (I gotta get the grinds out 
anyway, easier mixed with water), pout the mug full, lift the bandana, twist it 
over the mug, squeezing all the brew out the beans.
- A!
- Repeat till thermos is empty.
- Clean-up: Shake the grounds into a wee hole, mix with dirt, cover with dirt. 
All done.

Yum. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Black cyclists

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I thought it was clear since I quoted the text that I was responding to one 
particular post on the thread. I was just pointing out that "black culture" in 
the US was formed partly in response to the culture and other circumstances 
around it. 

When I lived in NYC, I was involved in several cycling subcultures and knew a 
number of black cyclists. I don't think their numbers were in any kind of ratio 
to the general population, with the possible exception of bike Messengers. 
That's my interpretation of my observations. I've ridden with only a couple of 
black cyclist since moving to the Hudson Valley. I couldn't really comment on 
the scene in Maryland, which is why I didn't. (Isn't chopped liver basically 
pate? Yum.)

On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 8:31:45 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> And my observation that at least in Southern
> Maryland, there are plenty of black cyclists, but that in
> general they're most often found in groups that are largely made
> up of other black cyclists, that's to be dismissed as
> "anecdotal" and it's just chopped liver, right?
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/12/19 6:53 AM, 'Mark in Beacon'
>   via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>   
>   
> 
> 
> Dave Small wrote:
> 
> "The purported paucity of black
> cyclists is a cultural phenomenon, not a racial
> phenomenonSo there aren't many black cyclists---so what?
>  It's not their thing.  They have other things.  Their
> things aren't my things, and they're not trying to get me
> involved in their things because they're their things and
> they don't care that they're not my things, too  It's
> just the way it is..."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So your stance is, black people as a group just don't like
>   riding bikes, because, "black culture". Maybe. But you have to
>   take into account the fact that "cultures" overlap, interact,
>   and affect one another when they exist in the same country--a
>   country that for a portion of its history allowed members of
>   one race to own members of another race. The first iteration
>   of the League of American Wheelmen banned non-white cyclists
>   in 1894, in part due to the success of Major Taylor.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Most NBA and NFL players are black, but few hockey
> players, race car drivers, or professional golfers are"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Again, your supposition is this is because blacks in
>   general just don't care much for hockey, car racing, or golf. 
>   However, basketball and football are public school sports, and
>   can also be played with a minimum of equipment outside of
>   institutional settings. Hockey and golf are historically more
>   the purview of prep schools. The economic opportunities that
>   blacks have often been excluded from mean they are not as
>   well-represented at these private institutions. Race car
>   driving has a strong Southern background, which may or may not
>   mean something. I bet you could look into it. Golf has an
>   interesting "cultural" past that may have influenced black
>   culture in the U.S.: 
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.complex.com/sports/2011/06/the-most-racist-moments-in-golf-history/kelly-tilghman
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Still seems to be happening in places: 
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.golf.com/tour-news/2018/04/26/fallout-continues-alleged-discriminatory-golf-course-incident
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> Really, there's much ado about nothing here. ..
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>   
>   
> Well, I would not speak for others as to whether or not
> this is true. Perhaps you are right. I think discussions
> about race are a good thing. But probably more useful when
> everyone is at the table.
> 
>   
> 
> -- 
> 
> Steve Palincsar
> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA

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[RBW] Re: Black cyclists

[Jeremy Till]

I'm also interested in a discussion of race in cycling, but I don't have 
the time at the moment to lay out my thoughts in an effective manner, so 
I'll just post some links that might be helpful: 

http://www.aquickbrownfox.com/ 
The website of Ayesha McGowan, a black woman who is a pro road racer.  

Justin Williams, the current US National Champion, is a black cyclist, and 
races for Legion of Los Angeles, a team promoting inclusion and diversity 
in cycling: 
https://www.instagram.com/juswilliamz/?hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/l39ion.la/?hl=en

https://microcosmpublishing.com/catalog/books/7833
http://www.urbanadonia.com/p/about_22.html
Adonia Lugo, Ph.D. is a cultural anthropologist who wrote *Bicycle/Race*, a 
book about cycling and culture in Los Angeles. She's a friend of a friend 
and I've seen her speak.  

On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 9:05:00 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I anticipate that some people may find this controversial, but I'll bet 
> they aren't black. I have no compunctions about my interest in black 
> cyclists and in black African culture generally, so hoping the interest 
> will outweigh the sensitivity:
>
> Black people seem to be relatively few in cycling; I say "seem" -- the 
> reality may be different.
> At any rate, this is an interesting article: 
>
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/07/nyregion/black-cyclists-red-caps-brooklyn.html
>
> I sometimes come across news of cycling in Kenya and other parts of 
> Africa; I recall a feature about the history of cycling in -- was it Rwanda 
> or was it Burundi? But a history going back decades and continuing despite 
> the vicissitudes of war and politics. 
>
> There's a off-and-on-and-mostly-off blog, She Cycles Nairobi, that has 
> some interesting bits. 
>
> Patrick Moore, who cut his cycling teeth on the hilly roads around Nairobi 
> in the '60s and '70s.
>
> ... Not to mention Peter Tosh and his unicycle (and the best ever version 
> of Johnny B Goode) ...
>
>
>
> -- 
>
>
>
>
> **
>
>
>
>
>
> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And 
> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the 
> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.*
> --- J.R.R. Tolkien
> ---
> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews
> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching
> Other professional writing services
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> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTT: New Brooks B17 for B67

[Joe Bernard]

This one has wrapped up so I'll just hijack instead of starting a new thread. 

Have: Brown Rivet with cutout. 
Want: B67.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Yves Gomez - $975 - F/F/HS plus shipping

[David B]

Ok, I lied about the final bump, because I'm going to lower the price again.
Final price/bump for real: $800 plus shipping - frame, fork, headset.

If there's no takers, I'll hang it up and hold onto for a while. Likely 
will regret the sale of this at some point, but it's just a bike.
David

On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 6:27:29 PM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>
> Final bump and lower. $900 plus shipping.
>
> On Thursday, June 6, 2019 at 8:27:04 AM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>>
>> Bumping this - now $940 plus shipping.
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 10:57:38 AM UTC-5, David B wrote:
>>>
>>> With reluctance, I am downsizing my bike fleet, sticking with my Clem, 
>>> Redwood, and adding a folding bike to complement my train commutes.
>>> I'm finally getting around to selling a 62cm Trek 850 with great 
>>> reluctance as well (apologies if you've inquired about that one and I never 
>>> responded).
>>> Might regret this but selling a couple framesets...
>>>
>>> 60cm Yves Gomez
>>> This frame fits like a much larger bike, with a taller headtube than the 
>>> previous 62cm version.
>>> Paint has scuffs from locking up but no major dents/dings/
>>> Selling as a frameset including frame/fork/headset.
>>>
>>> $975 plus shipping. Paypal for payment - regular is fine, though 
>>> friends/family would be preferred.
>>> Contact off-list if interested please.
>>>
>>> I have other parts available, including a set of 700c wheels 
>>> (Shimano/Sun Rhyno Lite) and pretty much everything to build this up as a 
>>> complete.
>>>
>>> Some photos here: https://www.instagram.com/p/BvIBF2MA_L8/
>>> And here: https://www.instagram.com/p/BpNjRXoFR34/
>>> And here: https://www.instagram.com/p/BpfTaowhqHT/
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: SRAM quick link release, g-r-r-r-r-r

[George Schick]

Thanks y'all for the advice about the chain pliers.  Those would be 
helpful.  I had to do some checking to answer some of the poster's 
questions.  The chain with the problem was a SRAM PC-830, an 8-speed. 
 Normally, I don't have too much of a problem getting these links to come 
apart, usually with a bit of penetrating oil to loosen things up.  But over 
the years I have noticed that the longer these chain links are left 
unserviced, the more difficult it is to get them to separate.  The one I 
was working with yesterday was on my general purpose utility bike and it 
had not been removed or cleaned for quite a number of years.  The bike is 
set up as a single speed which is why I installed the 8-speed chain on it. 
 The chain being used on my 9-speed comes apart relatively easy, but then I 
remove, clean, and re-lubricate it much more frequently.

On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 8:50:43 AM UTC-5, eddietheflay wrote:
>
> make sure if your moving to 11 speed chain that you get the latest version 
> of the Park tool. Old version works great for removing link but does not 
> work for installing link. For installing it is nearly impossible (for me) 
> to pull the two ends apart to get the link to click into place. Newest tool 
> has extra indents on the outside of the jaws that makes it a "snap" to pull 
> both handles outward and snap the link into place.
>
> On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:
>>
>> This afternoon I struggled to get a easy-link (or whatever SRAM calls it) 
>> to "release" so I could clean the chain on one of my bikes.  Granted, this 
>> chain has been in use for quite a few years before I got around to removing 
>> and cleaning it, but sheesh you'd think it would still come apart 
>> relatively easily.  Nope, I tried dosing it with TriFlow, then with Liquid 
>> Wrench, and finally with good old reliable PB Blaster, but none of them 
>> loosened it up enough to allow the easy link to be squeezed together to the 
>> point where it would come apart.  I wound up resorting to the use of a 
>> chain tool to forcefully get it apart.  Anyone have any recommendations of 
>> either a solvent or a tool that will aid in the removal of these so-called 
>> easy links?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: SRAM quick link release, g-r-r-r-r-r

[Kellie]

I just used this method last week when installing  a new chain. Worked 
wonderfully!
https://youtu.be/z4aHi7jxY2I

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:
>
> This afternoon I struggled to get a easy-link (or whatever SRAM calls it) 
> to "release" so I could clean the chain on one of my bikes.  Granted, this 
> chain has been in use for quite a few years before I got around to removing 
> and cleaning it, but sheesh you'd think it would still come apart 
> relatively easily.  Nope, I tried dosing it with TriFlow, then with Liquid 
> Wrench, and finally with good old reliable PB Blaster, but none of them 
> loosened it up enough to allow the easy link to be squeezed together to the 
> point where it would come apart.  I wound up resorting to the use of a 
> chain tool to forcefully get it apart.  Anyone have any recommendations of 
> either a solvent or a tool that will aid in the removal of these so-called 
> easy links?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

[Paul Burns]

thanks--that's interesting and helpful.  I'm a little concerned about what
i might be contributing to the environment with all the sealant I would use
and its related packaging/transport/embedded energy/etc. i don't change
tubes very often and can just pump them up with elbow grease when needed.

Thanks
- Paul



On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 11:28 AM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
kaiviers...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Though they rarely get a chance to roll, my HHH and I love our 60mm g-ones
> mounted tubeless on cliffhangers. And the same tires mounted tubeless, also
> with cliffhangers, on my Rosco Bubbe are way way way way preferable to
> tubed when rolling around the mean streets of NYC. I go through roughly 100
> ounces of sealant in a year (4 oz a fill), but refilling sealant is easy
> compared to all those tube swaps.
> -Kai
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Though they rarely get a chance to roll, my HHH and I love our 60mm g-ones 
mounted tubeless on cliffhangers. And the same tires mounted tubeless, also 
with cliffhangers, on my Rosco Bubbe are way way way way preferable to tubed 
when rolling around the mean streets of NYC. I go through roughly 100 ounces of 
sealant in a year (4 oz a fill), but refilling sealant is easy compared to all 
those tube swaps. 
-Kai

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bump! FS/ FT 58cm Joe Appaloosa

[Mike Williams]

Hey Jonathan,   Not complete.   Just F/F/HS/ BB/ seatpost

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> Are you selling a complete Joe for $950.  I wish it was my size.  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bump! FS/ FT 58cm Joe Appaloosa

[Jonathan D.]

Are you selling a complete Joe for $950.  I wish it was my size.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for HHH tandem

[Paul Burns]

Thanks, all, appreciated.  Am going to start with the 50mm G-One Speeds.

Am scared to try tubeless, mostly because I am old fashioned/out of 
touch/don't understand/haven't tried it.  Thoughts on the advisability of 
that with tandems?

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 7:54:11 PM UTC-4, Marc Pfister wrote:
>
> On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 2:25:27 PM UTC-6, Paul Burns wrote:
>>
>> Looking for tires for HHH, 70% on paved road, 30% dirt roads.  Would 
>> really prefer tan sidewall.   Compass sound great, but am concerned re 
>> flats/durability.  Considering WTB Horizon 47 and Panaracer GravelKing 48. 
>
>
> My current not-a-hubbuh tandem has the GravelKing 48s on it, running tubes 
> with tubeless sealant. This bike probably sees at least 75% of its mileage 
> on dirt roads in goathead country. I have not had a single flat or cut in 
> the past year.
>
> The upcoming Hubbuh is going to run 60mm Schwalbe G-One Speeds tubeless. 
> This tire only comes in blackwall, but there's a 50mm non-tubeless version 
> available in tanwall.
>
> WTB has a 50mm version of the Venture coming out, and there's a tubeless 
> tanwall version.
>
> Similar but slightly skinnier is the 47mm Teravail Cannonball, which is 
> available in tubeless tanwall version too.
>
> - Marc Pfister
> Windsor CO
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[RBW] Re: SRAM quick link release, g-r-r-r-r-r

[eddietheflay]

make sure if your moving to 11 speed chain that you get the latest version 
of the Park tool. Old version works great for removing link but does not 
work for installing link. For installing it is nearly impossible (for me) 
to pull the two ends apart to get the link to click into place. Newest tool 
has extra indents on the outside of the jaws that makes it a "snap" to pull 
both handles outward and snap the link into place.

On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 2:37:58 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:
>
> This afternoon I struggled to get a easy-link (or whatever SRAM calls it) 
> to "release" so I could clean the chain on one of my bikes.  Granted, this 
> chain has been in use for quite a few years before I got around to removing 
> and cleaning it, but sheesh you'd think it would still come apart 
> relatively easily.  Nope, I tried dosing it with TriFlow, then with Liquid 
> Wrench, and finally with good old reliable PB Blaster, but none of them 
> loosened it up enough to allow the easy link to be squeezed together to the 
> point where it would come apart.  I wound up resorting to the use of a 
> chain tool to forcefully get it apart.  Anyone have any recommendations of 
> either a solvent or a tool that will aid in the removal of these so-called 
> easy links?
>

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[RBW] Re: SRAM quick link release, g-r-r-r-r-r

[Shoji Takahashi]

I also use chain pliers. That said, in theory, pressing the links together 
will facilitate removal by hand. Below is a link. I remember doing this 
with intermittent success, but nowadays I grab the pliers. 

It seems like 10+ speed chain links are much more difficult.

https://youtu.be/1GnlOS5Bgn0

good luck!
shoji
Arlington MA

On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 1:19:37 AM UTC-4, Ian A wrote:
>
> I wanted a portable/road side-link pliers. I had a pair of small pliers 
> and access to a bench grinder. A bit of grinding and I have a link-plier in 
> my on bike tool kit.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Black cyclists

[Steve Palincsar]

And my observation that at least in Southern Maryland, there are plenty 
of black cyclists, but that in general they're most often found in 
groups that are largely made up of other black cyclists, that's to be 
dismissed as "anecdotal" and it's just chopped liver, right?


On 6/12/19 6:53 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:


Dave Small wrote:
/"//The purported paucity of black cyclists is a cultural phenomenon, 
not a racial phenomenonSo there aren't many black cyclists---so 
what?  It's not their thing.  They have other things.  Their things 
aren't my things, and they're not trying to get me involved in their 
things because they're their things and they don't care that they're 
not my things, too  It's just the way it is..."/


So your stance is, black people as a group just don't like riding 
bikes, because, "black culture". Maybe. But you have to take into 
account the fact that "cultures" overlap, interact, and affect one 
another when they exist in the same country--a country that for a 
portion of its history allowed members of one race to own members of 
another race. The first iteration of the League of American Wheelmen 
banned non-white cyclists in 1894, in part due to the success of Major 
Taylor.


/"Most NBA and NFL players are black, but few hockey players, race car 
drivers, or professional golfers are"/


Again, your supposition is this is because blacks in general just 
don't care much for hockey, car racing, or golf. However, basketball 
and football are public school sports, and can also be played with a 
minimum of equipment outside of institutional settings. Hockey and 
golf are historically more the purview of prep schools. The economic 
opportunities that blacks have often been excluded from mean they are 
not as well-represented at these private institutions. Race car 
driving has a strong Southern background, which may or may not mean 
something. I bet you could look into it. Golf has an interesting 
"cultural" past that may have influenced black culture in the U.S.:
https://www.complex.com/sports/2011/06/the-most-racist-moments-in-golf-history/kelly-tilghman 



Still seems to be happening in places:
https://www.golf.com/tour-news/2018/04/26/fallout-continues-alleged-discriminatory-golf-course-incident

/Really, there's much ado about nothing here. ..
/

Well, I would not speak for others as to whether or not this is true. 
Perhaps you are right. I think discussions about race are a good 
thing. But probably more useful when everyone is at the table.

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Alexandria, Virginia
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[RBW] Re: For sale: VO model 3 saddle brown

[Steve Butcher]

The saddle has been sold.

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 1:25:37 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote:
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> Hello forum,
>  I'm offering for sale this little used Velo Orange model 3 touring 
> saddle in brown color.  It has been installed on a bike but always stored 
> indoors and never wet.  I have treated it at least yearly with Velo Orange 
> leather treatment.  I'd like $75.00 for the saddle shipped in CONUS.  
> Please message me off list with questions.
>
> [image: 20190528_130001.jpeg]
>
> [image: 20190528_125948.jpeg]
> Steve
>

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[RBW] Ride Report: Three Days, Three States, Three Countries

[tc]

Wonderful story and photos, Patrick. You have a beautiful backyard!  Grant is 
quite lucky to have such a field tester. 

Tom

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Three Days, Three States, Three Countries

[ascpgh]

Breathtaking. Thanks for your insight to stop, photograph and recall for 
description the scenes you capture. That "undulating plateau" surely comes 
under the descriptions of montane ecosystems (the Wikipedia article nicely 
categorizes) but you'll have to decide since so much depends on where you 
are proximate to the tree line. 

Patrick M.'s "God is the cause of all things by His beauty" -- Dionysius? 
-- in the manner that the sun "naturally" sends forth light." is good, I'd 
add the obligation of individuals to recognize and appreciate such. I did, 
and I wasn't even there! If but to catch a whiff of the dry pinion-scented 
breeze.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh


On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 6:29:35 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> In which I take Beorn of the Gus Boots Willsen Clan on his first 
> bikepacking adventure expotition and he surprises me with his epic 
> land-travel speed via a fog teleportation experience that saw me in 
> Colorado, Scotland, Tibet, the Pacific Northwest, back to Colorado and 
> briefly to Arizona.
>
>
> https://deaconpatrick.org/three-days-three-states-three-countries-by-beorn-the-bikepacking-wonder
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
> www.CatholicHalos.org
> www.DeaconPatrick.org
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Re: [RBW] Re: Black cyclists

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Dave Small wrote:
*"**The purported paucity of black cyclists is a cultural phenomenon, not a 
racial phenomenonSo there aren't many black cyclists---so what?  It's 
not their thing.  They have other things.  Their things aren't my things, 
and they're not trying to get me involved in their things because they're 
their things and they don't care that they're not my things, too  It's 
just the way it is..."*

So your stance is, black people as a group just don't like riding bikes, 
because, "black culture". Maybe. But you have to take into account the fact 
that "cultures" overlap, interact, and affect one another when they exist 
in the same country--a country that for a portion of its history allowed 
members of one race to own members of another race. The first iteration of 
the League of American Wheelmen banned non-white cyclists in 1894, in part 
due to the success of Major Taylor.  

*"Most NBA and NFL players are black, but few hockey players, race car 
drivers, or professional golfers are"*

Again, your supposition is this is because blacks in general just don't 
care much for hockey, car racing, or golf.  However, basketball and 
football are public school sports, and can also be played with a minimum of 
equipment outside of institutional settings. Hockey and golf are 
historically more the purview of prep schools. The economic opportunities 
that blacks have often been excluded from mean they are not as 
well-represented at these private institutions. Race car driving has a 
strong Southern background, which may or may not mean something. I bet you 
could look into it. Golf has an interesting "cultural" past that may have 
influenced black culture in the U.S.: 
https://www.complex.com/sports/2011/06/the-most-racist-moments-in-golf-history/kelly-tilghman
 


Still seems to be happening in places: 
https://www.golf.com/tour-news/2018/04/26/fallout-continues-alleged-discriminatory-golf-course-incident


*Really, there's much ado about nothing here. ..*

Well, I would not speak for others as to whether or not this is true. 
Perhaps you are right. I think discussions about race are a good thing. But 
probably more useful when everyone is at the table.

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