[RBW] First post, first Riv, first ride

[John McClusky]

That’s a beautiful Sam.  I hope you get as much enjoyment from your as I’ ve 
got from mine all these years.  The most delightful bike I’ve ever ridden,

Enjoy!
John

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[RBW] Short rides are good

[John McClusky]

I also get to appreciate that these rides keep one more car off the road.  I 
wish our communities had more of that relief,  seems cleaner and healthier.

John

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[RBW] Short rides are good

[John McClusky]

I agree.  Errands are a great way to get pedaling out in the fresh air.  Most 
of mine range from 6-8 miles ( hardware, grocery, the occassional doctor appt). 
 Even my commute is only about 8-10 miles of riding on a Brompton broken up 
with a train ride.  All these rides start and end on our gravel river trail 
where I constantly spot eagles, falcons cranes, goats grazing (to reduce fire 
hazard), and the construction of a fish ladder to aid salmon spawning.  The 
mundane often turns magical on these short rides.

John
Niles, CA

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[RBW] First post, first Riv, first ride

[Drw]

Great looking. I had a caliper Sam, sold it and bought a MUSA Atlantis right 
before canti sams were reintroduced. If I  had known, I would’ve gone for that. 
Here we are and I love my Atlantis , but a canti Sam still gets my heart going. 
 

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[RBW] Re: Short rides are good

[Drw]

Thanks for the reminder. For my current life, anything over 10 miles would take 
some planning and negotiation with the partner. It can get depressing feeling. 
Good to know others are also squeezing the smaller joys too.

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[RBW] Re: Short rides are good

[Craig Montgomery]

Feeling like a Christmas slug all day so on 12/25 I made a little trip to 
Walgreens for some Rose bubbly wine and a canvas mounted photo for a gift 
to my riding buddy. High cumulus clouds. Temps in the 50's. Snow covered 
mountains. English wool sweater and knickers. 3 whole miles round trip on a 
3 speed English Club machine. It was glorious. 

Craig in Tucson

[image: JT and Clouds.JPG]


On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 12:01:09 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Not much to add to the title, I just wanted to say it. I notice in lots of 
> posts - including mine - a lament to ride more/longer, as if shorter rides 
> don't count. Bollocks on that. 10 miles is good, shorter is also ok. You're 
> outside on the bike pedaling, it's fun, you don't have to do it all day!

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder on ebay

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 8:46:53 AM UTC-8, Connor wrote:
>
> I always thought the XOs and early All-Rounders were way ahead of their 
> time. Perhaps too far ahead of their time? Back then 28 mm tires were 
> considered huge for road bikes. How times have changed! Question for those 
> who have one: Do Rat Trap Pass tires fit?
>

Don’t know about XOs, but RTP fatties fit fine on my All Rounder. :)

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Re: [RBW] Magic tips for clearing rocks from inside tires?

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Och, aye. That's the trick, Steve. How to have enough dexterity without 
risking loosing skin. Slow and steady wins the race.

Tricks I've learned:

- Glomitts are brilliant, and then quickly get back into a chopper mitt 
with wool lining at those temps, having worked with intentional slowness so 
as to be fast by avoiding dangers and screw-ups.
- avoid getting snow on fingers
- avoid touching metal when snow does get on fingers. Wood, rubber, fiber 
are fine to touch wen wet.
- get good at doing as many tasks by mitten as possible, exposing fingers 
only briefly and intermittently as required.

Everything takes longer at colder temps. Everything has twenty additional 
steps to consider because of all the layers and temps. The above tips also 
work well for packing and unpacking, setting up tent, etc, if stopping or 
camping.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 7:53:56 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> Do your hands freeze ontto to what you're working on?  That drove us crazy 
> trying to assemble Bailey bridges in Engineer AIT at Fort Leonard Wood, 
> MO.  They told us it was 30 below, probably an exaggeration but definitely 
> colder than 5 below, which I was used to in upstate NY.  Coldest I've ever 
> been, and I never want to experience anything like it again.
>
>
> On 12/27/19 6:56 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
> The grin at -20˚F comes from the snow that fell on the face, melting 
> briefly before freezing beard into a grin. That is also one of the ways you 
> get the wet without it being 150 proof. Sardonic grin. 
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick (where it's a delightful balmy 25, making this fond reminiscence. 
> Grin.)
>
> -- 
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> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA
>
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Re: [RBW] Magic tips for clearing rocks from inside tires?

[Steve Palincsar]

Do your hands freeze ontto to what you're working on?  That drove us 
crazy trying to assemble Bailey bridges in Engineer AIT at Fort Leonard 
Wood, MO.  They told us it was 30 below, probably an exaggeration but 
definitely colder than 5 below, which I was used to in upstate NY.  
Coldest I've ever been, and I never want to experience anything like it 
again.



On 12/27/19 6:56 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
The grin at -20˚F comes from the snow that fell on the face, melting 
briefly before freezing beard into a grin. That is also one of the 
ways you get the wet without it being 150 proof. Sardonic grin.


With abandon,
Patrick (where it's a delightful balmy 25, making this fond 
reminiscence. Grin.)



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[RBW] Re: Christmas Rivendells

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Kurt, I love that your son is adventuring with his friends on their bikes. I 
think he will find those upgrades so very useful. It was such a thrill for me 
to finally have a way to portage my things - and that didn’t occur until 
adulthood. He will love this new bag. You will spy on him and his friends 
because he will finally carry his phone. Life will be sublime. 

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[RBW] First post, first Riv, first ride

[diekaiser]

I agree 100%. I probably wouldn’t have purchased if this particular color 
didn’t pop up at a great deal. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB 57cm A. Homer Hilsen

[William Humphrey]

I have a 57 AHH for sale as a complete bicycle but I'll need until Monday 
to share photos and specs.  Best, Bill in Wisconsin


On Wednesday, December 25, 2019 at 12:53:47 PM UTC-6, Eric G wrote:
>
> Such empty, indeed. Hopefully someone at some point will be interested in 
> offloading a 57 AHH!
>
> Eric 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: All Rounder on ebay

[Patrick Moore]

THey certainly won't fit on the '93 (canti), let alone '92 (caliper) XO-1.
And I doubt they'll fit on the All Rounder. For a nice budget ride
(alternative to 26" all road custom), consider a nice NORBA-type very late
'80s or very early '90s (pre-susp-fork) high quality hardtail. I "all
roundered" several of these, long before, alas, the Rat Trap Pass, and they
work very nicely with the right top tube, stem, and bar (I used upjutters
and various drop bars).

The XOs and All Rounder were ahead of their time, looking back from today's
gravel bikes, but they were also call-backs to an earlier period of 650B
fat tire all rounders and 700C all rounders with fatter tires; IOW a
throwback compared to the then-20 mm tire road fashion (I know; I once
installed 19 mm tires on my Falcon.)

I am now in fat-tire all rounder heaven with my custom 700C X 60/650B X 70
Matthews, but there is much to be said for 2 or 2 1/2" wide 559 wheels --
they are much more nimble compared to almost 30" tall fatties, IME, tho'
the tall wheels do roll over small bumps and soft spots better.

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 9:46 AM Connor  wrote:

> I always thought the XOs and early All-Rounders were way ahead of their
> time. Perhaps too far ahead of their time? Back then 28 mm tires were
> considered huge for road bikes. How times have changed! Question for those
> who have one: Do Rat Trap Pass tires fit? Thanks!
>
> On Saturday, November 23, 2019 at 5:29:59 PM UTC-8, Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>
>> The Pro’s Closet is selling a 26” wheeled AR on ebay
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-All-Rounder-Gravel-Bike-Medium-Steel-26-Suntour-CX-5000-7-Speed/383280968408?hash=item593d5372d8:g:VBsAAOSwkbxd2G7o
>> Steve
>>
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[RBW] Re: IC: 62 CM Hunqapillar F/F/HS

[Joe Bernard]

Needs pics!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Short rides are good

[Joe Bernard]

This thread actually started as a conversation with Grant a couple years ago. I 
don't remember the specifics of what he considers short and long rides, but 
he's definitely in the category of preferring "go out for a while and come 
back" distances. 

Of course this is terrain specific, he and I both live in the same hilly area 
of the world where a short ride can involve a pretty serious workout. 
Flatlanders probably have different definitions of short and long. 

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Re: [RBW] Magic tips for clearing rocks from inside tires?

[Patrick Moore]

Wha!!!??? Two to 4 flats *per year?* I used to think that the world was
spinning normally if I got 2 to 4 flats per 70-to-100-mile week!

As for granite debris inside the tire carcase, just possibly this might
help: I don't contend with rocks, but I very often have to clean up sealant
explosions and leakages, and I carry a rag -- old bandana, shop rag --
around with my repair kit to wipe the mess out of the inside of the tire.
The rag also alerts you to thorn remnants.

Perhaps a wipe with a soft rag around the inside of the tire will catch the
flint bits?

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 3:33 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> For all the riding I do on the supplest tires I can find in the widths for
> each bike, I am blessed to only have 2-4 flats a year. However, one ongoing
> challenge in the field is the wet/muddy flat fix, in which sharp decomposed
> granite is a primary component. If it get into the tire (inevitable short
> of brooming off the tire after it is fully dried, which is what I do at
> home). Things I've tried in the field to clear the gathering of future
> punctures from the trough:
>
> - remove the tire entirely. In wet conditions this just makes everything
> worse. Better to leave it on on one side, tilted so detritus falls away
> from the trough.
>
> - flip the bottom bit of tire inside out, after inserting the tube, but
>  just before inserting the bottom bit of tube. The trick here is to make
> four hands out of two.
>
> This works about 80% of the time, but that remaining 20% is stubborn. Any
> additional tips? (Note, by "wet" conditions, I mean everything from -20˚F,
> which is a different kind of wet, up to normal wet). Fortunately, I've only
> had one flat below zero. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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> www.CatholicHalos.org
> www.DeaconPatrick.org
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Re: [RBW] 2020 Goals

[Patrick Moore]

One of your goals ought to be to continue your very entertaining
ride/family/bike posts. As for tracking miles, instead of many computers
for many bikes, I use the free version of Cyclemeter for the iPhone (proud
to announce that my iPhone 5S is still going strong, after I discovered
that removing handsful of pocket lint from the charging socket allows you
to -- charge the phone). I keep an Excel spreadsheet that breaks out all of
my bikes, but since I'd be doing something like this anyway even if I did
use computers for all bikes, this is not a burden. I copy the spreadsheet
from year to year, so it doesn't have to be re-created every 12 months.

Patrick "Excel is the only Office program that doesn't merit cursing" Moore



On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 8:42 AM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I love the 2020 goals! I have some big ones on my radar, but here are my
> biking goals:
>
> 1. When the “fancy Cheviot” becomes available - if it seems like a good
> fit and I can get it painted in the red I’ve dreamed up - I’ll sell my
> Betty Foy and buy one. (And heaven help me if Rivendell ever does end up
> making that lovely anniversary model I so longed for; I am not above
> holding grudges over that bike). I’m hoping to get my first ever dyno
> lighting, which I am so excited about.
>
> 2. Ride and ride and ride. I may be back in the workforce in 2020, so not
> sure what my schedule will look like, but when I can ride, I will. I rode
> my 2012 Betty Foy exclusively until summer 2019, and then I ended up with a
> Clem L that was such a sweet deal I couldn’t refuse it. I fell in love with
> the Clem line of bikes after getting used to the long chainstays and
> step-through frame. I dithered over how to set up that blue Clem before
> finally settling on the details in December and now I’m going to forget all
> about that and JUST RIDE. It really does take time and many miles to “know”
> a bike, and I long for the familiarity that I had with my old Betz. And
> that takes MILES.
>
> I need #2 to be measurable, so I will get a bike computer To track my
> miles. To that end, does anyone have a good suggestion for a bike computer
> for 650 b wheels? Is there one that can easily be switched between my
> bikes, or one that is affordable enough that I would get 2? (One for each
> bike.) I have an Apple Watch, so I need no other features - just the
> mileage. If you have a recommendation, would you PM me? I started a search
> and was quickly overwhelmed...
>
> Happy New Year!!!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Short rides are good

[Patrick Moore]

Self-confessed short-rider here. That is to say, I'm not short -- I ride
(level top tube) a 60 mm frame, c-c; but I ride short distances. When I
ordered my Joe Starck road fixie gofast custom (that's 5 qualifiers) I
apologetically told Grant that, "Wull, for me, yuh know, 30 miles is a long
ride." Grant said, "It *is* a long ride!" (From that time onward my
self-image has been much more positive.) This long before "Just Ride."

Of course, I ride mostly fixed gear on the road, and when I use multiple
gears (and freewheels!) it is largely off road, and everyone knows that
dirt and fixed add the equivalent of triple the riding distance. Seriously,
fixed gears are just perfect for short distance riding.

Typically, I'll fill the working week with 12-15 mile rt errand/detour
rides, and once or twice a week I'll get out and ride 20, 25, more rarely
30 miles. But the short rides fit well with my workday -- calls and edits
in the morning, writing late afternoon and evening. Today's 13.5-mile rt
shopping trip was extended by a very annoying, sealant-splashing nail
puncture, though I ramped up the strenuousness on the way home with 4 miles
in the hooks against a stiff southerly headwind beating against full rear
panniers; 70" gear; I have yet to capitulate and shift to the sissy 63"
Dingle gear, let alone the 54" flipside 22 t freewheel.

I am glad to say that I put considerably more miles on my bikes than on my
car; tho' this is less impressive than it might be because, apart from my
daughter, I drive an average of about 50 miles a month -- much
procrastinated, and much hated Big Box Shopping trips (Costco, Target, True
Value or Home Depot); occasional drives to church when it's dark or wet and
I don't feel like riding; a few social events, though I manage to arrange
even some of these at nearby (= walkable) eateries).

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Re: [RBW] Re: eClem again

[esoterica etc]

Joe,

That’s a sweet looking bike you got there. I built up a Clem for my wife 
earlier this year, and am so impressed with how it rides. Would love to 
experience what a Coppenhagen-equipped bike feels like, especially with your 
glowing review. Glad to hear it’s checking all your boxes, and that you found a 
workable solution to your shifting conundrum. 2020 is going to be your year! 
All the best,

~Mark 
Raleigh, NC


> On Dec 27, 2019, at 18:18, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Update! Holy moly this is a spectacular bike. I had those wood fenders I 
> mentioned on for a while, which were super pretty but I never figured out a 
> brake bridge attachment that kept the rear from rattling like crazy. I had 
> some Honjos by Simworks from my long gone MIT Atlantis 650B, which I decided 
> will (sorta) fit 26"..I was right! 
> 
> Tubus rack on the back, Nitto HAR up front. Bags are various shades of green 
> and tan: Baggins rear, HAR front, Small Saddlesack, Makeshifter Snackhole. 
> 
> I put a new Silver2 shifter on a left bar pod to shift the rear (cuz bad 
> right hand)..works great 
> 
>>> On Monday, October 28, 2019 at 1:06:25 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>> Haha, I almost had the wheel sold a couple times before I had found any 
>> 26-incher Rivs to mount it to. It's off the market now, I'm riding it! ‍♂️
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[RBW] Re: 2020 Goals

[Bill Schairer]

Build a 135mm tubular wheel for my Atlantis.  Anyone have a 36h, 135mm hub they 
want to part with?

Bill S

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[RBW] Re: 2020 Goals

[Bill Schairer]

Build a 135mm tubular wheel for my Atlantis.  Anyone have a 36h, 135mm hub they 
want to part with?

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Re: [RBW] Magic tips for clearing rocks from inside tires?

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The grin at -20˚F comes from the snow that fell on the face, melting 
briefly before freezing beard into a grin. That is also one of the ways you 
get the wet without it being 150 proof. Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
Patrick (where it's a delightful balmy 25, making this fond reminiscence. 
Grin.)

On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 3:51:52 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
> On 12/27/19 5:33 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: 
> > For all the riding I do on the supplest tires I can find in the widths 
> > for each bike, I am blessed to only have 2-4 flats a year. However, 
> > one ongoing challenge in the field is the wet/muddy flat fix, in which 
> > sharp decomposed granite is a primary component. If it get into the 
> > tire (inevitable short of brooming off the tire after it is fully 
> > dried, which is what I do at home). Things I've tried in the field to 
> > clear the gathering of future punctures from the trough: 
> > 
> > - remove the tire entirely. In wet conditions this just makes 
> > everything worse. Better to leave it on on one side, tilted so 
> > detritus falls away from the trough. 
> > 
> > - flip the bottom bit of tire inside out, after inserting the tube, 
> > but  just before inserting the bottom bit of tube. The trick here is 
> > to make four hands out of two. 
> > 
> > This works about 80% of the time, but that remaining 20% is stubborn. 
> > Any additional tips? (Note, by "wet" conditions, I mean everything 
> > from -20˚F, which is a different kind of wet, 
>
>
> It would have to be around 150 proof to still be wet at -20˚F, wouldn't 
> it? 
>
>
> > up to normal wet). Fortunately, I've only had one flat below zero. Grin. 
> > 
>
> I can't imagine there would be much to grin about trying to fix a flat 
> at -20˚F. 
>
> -- 
> Steve Palincsar 
> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Closet purge! Filson Barbour Woolrich Holubar Rockmount Pendleton Giro Shimano...

['jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Horsehide moto jacket sold.

Adding more to the pile:

CHACO Z1 mens 9 - $25
Worn a couple times, didnt work for my feet.

Added pics:

PICTURES 


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Re: [RBW] Magic tips for clearing rocks from inside tires?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 12/27/19 5:33 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
For all the riding I do on the supplest tires I can find in the widths 
for each bike, I am blessed to only have 2-4 flats a year. However, 
one ongoing challenge in the field is the wet/muddy flat fix, in which 
sharp decomposed granite is a primary component. If it get into the 
tire (inevitable short of brooming off the tire after it is fully 
dried, which is what I do at home). Things I've tried in the field to 
clear the gathering of future punctures from the trough:


- remove the tire entirely. In wet conditions this just makes 
everything worse. Better to leave it on on one side, tilted so 
detritus falls away from the trough.


- flip the bottom bit of tire inside out, after inserting the tube, 
but  just before inserting the bottom bit of tube. The trick here is 
to make four hands out of two.


This works about 80% of the time, but that remaining 20% is stubborn. 
Any additional tips? (Note, by "wet" conditions, I mean everything 
from -20˚F, which is a different kind of wet,



It would have to be around 150 proof to still be wet at -20˚F, wouldn't it?



up to normal wet). Fortunately, I've only had one flat below zero. Grin.



I can't imagine there would be much to grin about trying to fix a flat 
at -20˚F.


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Alexandria, Virginia
USA

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[RBW] Magic tips for clearing rocks from inside tires?

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

For all the riding I do on the supplest tires I can find in the widths for each 
bike, I am blessed to only have 2-4 flats a year. However, one ongoing 
challenge in the field is the wet/muddy flat fix, in which sharp decomposed 
granite is a primary component. If it get into the tire (inevitable short of 
brooming off the tire after it is fully dried, which is what I do at home). 
Things I've tried in the field to clear the gathering of future punctures from 
the trough:

- remove the tire entirely. In wet conditions this just makes everything worse. 
Better to leave it on on one side, tilted so detritus falls away from the 
trough.

- flip the bottom bit of tire inside out, after inserting the tube, but  just 
before inserting the bottom bit of tube. The trick here is to make four hands 
out of two.

This works about 80% of the time, but that remaining 20% is stubborn. Any 
additional tips? (Note, by "wet" conditions, I mean everything from -20˚F, 
which is a different kind of wet, up to normal wet). Fortunately, I've only had 
one flat below zero. Grin.  

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Short rides are good

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Och! Aye. Every ride helps me brain. Thus, no ride is too short, and every 
ride is a gift. Even the ones that take longer to don boiled wool bits and 
bobs than the ride itself. Grin. Some days me brain lets me oot ta hoose, 
others past the gate, others past the town puddle (half a mile rt), others 
to the green bench at the cottonwood (2 miles rt, maybe), others to the 
horse barn, others to the bar and grill, others to Woodland Park (8 miles 
rt). In general, if I make it through the massive metropolis of Woodland 
Park (population approaching 8,000, still a few hundred below its altitude) 
I make it up a trail, in which case my ride totals 18-20 miles depending on 
the trail and what I do. ANy and all of those rides helps me do better, 
making the next ride likely to be yet longer. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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>
> Not much to add to the title, I just wanted to say it. I notice in lots of 
> posts - including mine - a lament to ride more/longer, as if shorter rides 
> don't count. Bollocks on that. 10 miles is good, shorter is also ok. You're 
> outside on the bike pedaling, it's fun, you don't have to do it all day!

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[RBW] Re: IC: 62 CM Hunqapillar F/F/HS

[Zack]

Lots of great bikes for sale! This is also a great bike. Put your holiday 
money to good use! Price drop to $1400. 

On Monday, November 18, 2019 at 3:44:14 PM UTC-8, Zack wrote:
>
> Hey all -
>
> Am thinking about selling my 62 cm Hunq frameset. It's in great condition 
> with a bit of beusage. Kidney bean and grey paint. Have some other things I 
> could throw in (seatpost, crank, Paul brakes) if you are going to build it 
> up from scratch and want a head start. 
>
> Can add pics soon. 
>
> Located in Portland, OR, can ship, but would want to do it through local 
> bike shop rather than box myself.
>
> Start at $1500 for F/F/HS? Plus shipping if you aren't here? Not sure what 
> good condition Hunqs should be selling for, life stuff has pulled me away 
> from having my finger on the pulse of Rivendell pricing. If I am too low or 
> too high please let me know.
>

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[RBW] First post, first Riv, first ride

[WETH]

Welcome! I personally love that color Sam. It will no doubt bring you years of 
enjoyment!

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[RBW] Short rides are good

[in Dallas nick]

I'm on the same wavelength as to rides.
I'm right around 2000 miles for 2019 and my guess is more than half is errand 
running. 
I try to leave the automobile in the driveway and take a bike on every occasion 
I can.
It's been years now since I decided even if it's only a mile or two to get out 
and pedal.
When I have hours I'll pedal that long as well. 
Paul in Dallas 

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[RBW] Re: Short rides are good

[dougP]

A lot of short rides can accumulate surprising mileage.  Using my bike for 
errands, visiting & just knocking around, I've had 100 mile weeks without 
doing anything special.  At this point 3 hours on the bike is enough.  I 
think most of my weekly mileage is more like in the 50-70 mile range.  I 
only know because I have a watch for monitoring my heart, & it also records 
miles.  

dougP

On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 11:01:09 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Not much to add to the title, I just wanted to say it. I notice in lots of 
> posts - including mine - a lament to ride more/longer, as if shorter rides 
> don't count. Bollocks on that. 10 miles is good, shorter is also ok. You're 
> outside on the bike pedaling, it's fun, you don't have to do it all day!

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[RBW] Re: First post, first Riv, first ride

[dougP]

That's a lot of firsts!  Welcome to the RBW clan.

dougP

On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 8:46:38 AM UTC-8, diekaiser wrote:
>
> [image: IMG_2913.jpg]
>
> This is the 51 SH frame from the 718 Cyclery sale I received about a month 
> ago. Built it up from scratch. Notable parts include the CrustxNitto stem, 
> Shaka Bars, Hite-Rite, and the gold LX hubs. Fork is just barely clearing 
> the GravelKing 1.9's.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: First post, first Riv, first ride

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That wee beastie is eager to head down anything you aim it! I was 
astonished with my first Rivendell how much delight comes from the bike 
yearning to go anywhere I point it. Enjoy, with wild abandon!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 11:02:04 AM UTC-7, diekaiser wrote:
>
> Thanks Roberta! I have yet to put any serious miles(only to work and back) 
> but so far it rides wonderfully. Excited for some country road riding.
>

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[RBW] Re: Snow and Brisk Riding Tips

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

My rule for tires, year round, is supple knobbies as wide as reasonably 
fits and still clears mud/snow, detritus. If Rene Herse made wider tires 
I'd ride their knobbies on all my bikes. As it is:

Quickbeam: 38mm Steilacooms (Rene Herse)
Hunqapillar: 2.1" Racing Ralph liteskin
Gus Boots Willsen: 2.8"  Nobby Nic Addix

Points to consider (all of which rule out less expensive tires for me)
- Supple rubber (both in type and thickness/thread count) conforms to 
terrain, providing astounding grip.
- Knobbies pattered similarly to those on Rene Herse tires, with supple 
rubber, ride surprisingly well on smooth, hard roads, and only get better 
on the more fun stuff. Grin.
- A wider tire gives better control in loose stuff, be it sand, mud, or 
sloppy snow. The idea of using a thin tire to cut through to the 
under-surface is largely useless in varying conditions.

I hope that helps. Also, weight further back and off your front tire makes 
the loose stuff far easier to ride. Rear wheel drives with weight, front 
wheel floats and steers better without digging in and getting sloppy.

With abandon,
Patrick


On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 11:28:59 AM UTC-7, Mat Grewe wrote:
>
> Don't forget the power of acclimating to the cold!  Early season 35 
> degrees often feels colder than mid-late season 5 degrees...  It helps 
> intentionally under-dressing (safely of course) a couple times early on, 
> kick-starting the body to get used to the cold.
>
> Any recommendations for winter tires in particular?  I have a mix of rural 
> paved and gravel roads, often with hardpack instead of clear glaze ice.  
> Any insight as to how the compass/rene herse knobbies compare to 
> thunderburts, or other brands, to studs on the various types of hardpack 
> snow, textured ice, gravel, clear pavement, slushy snot, etc?  I've been 
> rolling on old tires for a while, and soon is the time to expand to better 
> tires, allowing more days of winter riding to safely occur.  Still on a 
> budget so I only have one wheelset and would like to use one tire for the 
> winter.
>
> Mat
> Driftless Wisconsin where last winter we saw -35 degrees Fahrenheit; 
> beautiful for a hike in the woods, a wee bit too cold for a bike ride...
>

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[RBW] Re: Short rides are good

[DHans]

I couldn't agree more. Even though my 2020 goal post (not as in football) 
stated a mileage goal, I prefer to accumulate miles with lots of short 
rides. I ride around the neighborhood, to the convenience store, or to the 
coffee shop. It's transportation not sport for me. And, that's a change in 
that there was a time I kitted out, hauled my bike to a meet up spot, and 
rode hard and fast on a specific route just for exercise, fitness and to be 
part of the group. Now I see my bike as a way to get there and to just 
enjoy a Sunday (or any day) ride.
Doug

On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 2:01:09 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Not much to add to the title, I just wanted to say it. I notice in lots of 
> posts - including mine - a lament to ride more/longer, as if shorter rides 
> don't count. Bollocks on that. 10 miles is good, shorter is also ok. You're 
> outside on the bike pedaling, it's fun, you don't have to do it all day!

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Re: [RBW] Short rides are good

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Couldn’t agree more. My mantra for 2020 is going to be #focusonfun

I plan to ride to enjoy it. If that’s a long ride, great.  But there’s a lot of 
fun to be had just getting out for a short jaunt. 

–Eric N


> On Dec 27, 2019, at 11:01 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Not much to add to the title, I just wanted to say it. I notice in lots of 
> posts - including mine - a lament to ride more/longer, as if shorter rides 
> don't count. Bollocks on that. 10 miles is good, shorter is also ok. You're 
> outside on the bike pedaling, it's fun, you don't have to do it all day!
> 
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[RBW] Short rides are good

[Joe Bernard]

Not much to add to the title, I just wanted to say it. I notice in lots of 
posts - including mine - a lament to ride more/longer, as if shorter rides 
don't count. Bollocks on that. 10 miles is good, shorter is also ok. You're 
outside on the bike pedaling, it's fun, you don't have to do it all day!

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[RBW] Re: Snow and Brisk Riding Tips

[Mat Grewe]

Don't forget the power of acclimating to the cold!  Early season 35 degrees 
often feels colder than mid-late season 5 degrees...  It helps 
intentionally under-dressing (safely of course) a couple times early on, 
kick-starting the body to get used to the cold.

Any recommendations for winter tires in particular?  I have a mix of rural 
paved and gravel roads, often with hardpack instead of clear glaze ice.  
Any insight as to how the compass/rene herse knobbies compare to 
thunderburts, or other brands, to studs on the various types of hardpack 
snow, textured ice, gravel, clear pavement, slushy snot, etc?  I've been 
rolling on old tires for a while, and soon is the time to expand to better 
tires, allowing more days of winter riding to safely occur.  Still on a 
budget so I only have one wheelset and would like to use one tire for the 
winter.

Mat
Driftless Wisconsin where last winter we saw -35 degrees Fahrenheit; 
beautiful for a hike in the woods, a wee bit too cold for a bike ride...

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[RBW] Re: First post, first Riv, first ride

[diekaiser]

Thanks Roberta! I have yet to put any serious miles(only to work and back) 
but so far it rides wonderfully. Excited for some country road riding.

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[RBW] Re: First post, first Riv, first ride

[Roberta]

I hope you love the bike to pieces!  I got a Riv a few years ago and 
couldn't believe what I was missing.  I hope you love yours the same.  

On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 11:46:38 AM UTC-5, diekaiser wrote:
>
> [image: IMG_2913.jpg]
>
> This is the 51 SH frame from the 718 Cyclery sale I received about a month 
> ago. Built it up from scratch. Notable parts include the CrustxNitto stem, 
> Shaka Bars, Hite-Rite, and the gold LX hubs. Fork is just barely clearing 
> the GravelKing 1.9's.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 26" Clem Smith Jr Wheelset - $90+ship

[Justin Kennedy]

Ed, did you end up installing the Xtracycle conversion on the Clem? I've 
been thinking about building a cargo set up in 2020 and had the idea to do 
an Xtracycle on a Clem L or Cheviot, but thought that the chainstays were 
too long to be compatible. If you were able to work it out, could you post 
some pics here? I'd love to see how it turned out. 


On Monday, April 1, 2019 at 1:09:36 PM UTC-4, Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
> Sold pending shipment. Thanks for looking.
>
> --Ed C.
>

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder on ebay

[Connor]

I always thought the XOs and early All-Rounders were way ahead of their 
time. Perhaps too far ahead of their time? Back then 28 mm tires were 
considered huge for road bikes. How times have changed! Question for those 
who have one: Do Rat Trap Pass tires fit? Thanks!

On Saturday, November 23, 2019 at 5:29:59 PM UTC-8, Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
> The Pro’s Closet is selling a 26” wheeled AR on ebay
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-All-Rounder-Gravel-Bike-Medium-Steel-26-Suntour-CX-5000-7-Speed/383280968408?hash=item593d5372d8:g:VBsAAOSwkbxd2G7o
> Steve
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Re: [RBW] Pink'd out Atlantis Build

[James / Analog Cycles]

I love crackle paint, black chrome, fades, just spare me the flame paint 
jobs!



On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 1:33:47 PM UTC-5, John McClusky wrote:
>
> Wow!  Wish I’d had that when I was racing mountain bikes back in ‘87. 
>  Beautiful job, James. 
>
> John (fondly remembering crackle paint and Bell V1 helmets)

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[RBW] WTB: 63cm Roadeo or 62cm Legolas

[Scott Calhoun]

I know this is a long shot, but thought was worth asking. I'd be most 
interested in a frameset, but might consider a complete also. As long as 
I'm asking about hard to find stuff, I would also consider 62cm Legolas (I 
can hear collective laughter at this request). Anybody holding? Frame 
condition not super important, so long as they are functionally sound. 

Contact me off-list.

Scott Calhoun
Tucson, AZ USA

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[RBW] Re: Pink'd out Atlantis Build

[James / Analog Cycles]

ha!  yes!  

On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 12:22:03 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Crockett & Tubbs bike! 

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Re: [RBW] Pink'd out Atlantis Build

[James / Analog Cycles]

Hi Steve, the tape is a pretty light pink.  It's not Newbaums.  Considering 
the wrap is only a few days old, I don't think it's starting to go.  The 
glitter on the tape necessitated a number of shellac coats already.  
-james

On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 11:47:29 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> Those handlebars aren't going to stay pink very long.  In fact, they've 
> already started to go.  Perhaps one or two coats of clear varnish would 
> keep the dirt transfer off without altering the color or compromising the 
> feel of the bar wrap?
> On 12/13/19 9:27 AM, James / Analog Cycles wrote:
>
> We recently finished work on this intense Atlantis.  Lots of pink cerakote 
> accents, per the customer's request.  I'd wager it's one of the first pink 
> Nitto bottle cages ever.  Partial build list: 
> Cliffhanger rims, tubeless tape, Rene Herse tires set up tubeless.  Paul 
> Motolites, polished.  S83 seatpost, cerakoted.  Custom Leather hoods from 
> Herringwear, who also makes our Fifth Season canvas bags.  
> Prototype Discord 30mm stem.  Spank bars.  Customized cloth bar tape.  
>
> It might not be for everyone, but it's unique!  Easy to spot your bike at 
> the Riv Rally.  -james / analog cycles vermont
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[RBW] Re: Pink'd out Atlantis Build

[Weston Hein]

Style for miles, I dig it! Fantastic pics as always James

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[RBW] Re: Riv Atlantis MTB Video

['Kurt Henry' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I agree, really cool video!  I had the same question already asked about 
MIT Atlantis vs. MUSA, but I'm also curious about the brakes on the rear.  
I couldn't ID them from the quick glimpse, what are they?  I really did NOT 
need to see this video.  I'd been "Atlantis curious" in the past, then 
recently saw a pic of one with flat bars and got curious again.  Promptly 
talked myself out of it.  Touring bike, probably not really suitable for 
trails.  Nope, now that defense mechanism for myself is out the window.  
Seemed to handle trails just fine, or at least the kind I would consider 
riding on. 
Thank you for posting!
Kurt Henry
Lancaster, PA

On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 11:05:33 PM UTC-5, YQ wrote:
>
> Hi everyone -- I really enjoy reading the group's ride reports and 
> checking out the great pictures of different folks' rides. I thought I 
> would share a video that I put together of my Atlantis doing some riding in 
> the Santa Cruz Mountains.  Link is below. Hope you enjoy.
>
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f2XIWEK9hciggoo5WRVwQeSKHocUUDOz/view?usp=sharing_eil=5dd02343
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[RBW] Re: Christmas Rivendells

['Kurt Henry' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'm not getting my son a new bike for Christmas, as he got a new Woom 6 
last year.  But I'm buying him some accessories.  I hope that counts!  Woom 
now offers frame bags made of denim, sized for their frames.  My son is 
always reluctant to bring his phone, no wanting to drop or lose it.  Now he 
will have a nice place to put his phone, a few dollars (Duck donuts is on 
the back side of the park behind our house and a common destination for him 
and his friends), and a lock.  Woom is sold out of their locks so will have 
to get a regular one. Maybe one of the folding locks from Riv?  I'm also 
adding lights. It's that time of year!  Rechargeables are perfect, no more 
than he will ride in the dark and just up and down our alley to go see 
friends.

Kurt Henry
Lancaster, PA



On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 1:15:15 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Is anyone is getting a new bike or getting a loved one a new bike for 
> Christmas? This will be a really fun thread if there are a lot of people 
> planning for new bikes under their trees, or it could be really quiet here 
> (I know winter is not peak bike-purchasing season for most of the country), 
> but let’s see. 
>
> I got a Clem a couple of months earlier, so I can’t contribute, but I’ll 
> include a short Christmas bike story anyway. My favorite gift as a kid was 
> the Huffy purple/black/gray mountain bike I got for Christmas in 5th or 6th 
> grade. The problem was that I was born and raised in North Dakota, where 
> the winters are long and fierce. I Could. Not. Wait. for spring that year. 
> I would walk out into the garage and stare at my new bike all that winter. 
> It had GEARS. It came with a WATER BOTTLE (that was cracked, but oh well) 
> and it had a small handlebar bag! Sometimes it got the best of me and I’d 
> wheel it out onto the street in front of the house and just pedal it a 
> little bit. The tires were perpetually flat, and I usually gave up and went 
> back inside quickly. But I was so content knowing that new bike - the first 
> new bike I’d ever had - was waiting for me in that garage. I could not wait 
> for spring to come. 
>
> My very best friend got the same bike (both sets of parents favored 
> shopping at Target), and on some lucky Fridays, after school let out, we’d 
> pedal home to her farm where I’d stay and ride her horses with her all 
> weekend until church on Sunday. It was gravel roads the entire ride, and a 
> good 5 miles. We were just kids (11?12?) in the 90s and it was a real 
> adventure. I don’t know how we weren’t killed by gravel trucks as they 
> crested the hills; they’d never be expecting kids riding bikes on those 
> twisty gravel roads. Also, what were our parents thinking?!? But the only 
> thing I loved to ride more than my purple mountain bike was my friend’s big 
> old quarter horse, Bud - so away we went. We were big stuff. 
>
> That Huffy was probably the nicest bike I ever had until I was 31 years 
> old and got a Betty Foy. I think Mom and Dad still have the Huffy in their 
> storage unit in my hometown. I’ll look for it this summer and take a selfie 
> with it. Now I’m completely bike-rich and marvel at my humble bike 
> beginnings. My first bike was a garage sale bike I got when I was 7, and 
> that is another tale. It’s so fun to look back at that Christmas and 
> remember how excited I was to taste the freedom that a new bike was going 
> to bring me. 
>
> I hope someone is getting a new bike for Christmas this year. Christmas 
> bikes are the most sacred of bikes. 
>
> Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: What does a BMC Monstercross weigh?

[Scott Sutherland]

Thanks Adam — sounds like a great ride. Enjoyed the Mt Tam video, though it
makes me seriously question the life choices that have kept me in New
England for too long.

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 9:48 PM Adam Leibow  wrote:

> Scott, handling is normal/fine although I think the stem could be 10-20mm
> longer to fit optimally (i go back and forth on that which is why I haven't
> made the change yet). I highly recommend this bike, rides zippily like a
> Homer and the color options are great this batch. It handles well on single
> track. I ride it around golden gate park trails here in SF. Also, here is a
> video edit I made riding the Road Plus on Mt. Tamalpais dirt roads:
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B5RwAfelCn4/
>
> On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 8:16:35 AM UTC-8, Scott S wrote:
>>
>> Adam, great looking ride — love the fenders. I’m considering a road + as
>> well for an all arounder, including some trail use — any experience on
>> singletrack w yours? Also curious about long TT / short stem combo and any
>> impact on balance or handling.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 8:04 PM Adam Leibow 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I got the new road plus and it rides really great. took it up all over
>>> mt. tam and marin. it's been my wet weather bike recently. this is the
>>> "53cm". (so called because of the compact geometry - it fits like their 58
>>> rim brake bikes)
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_5530.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 10:31:33 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 I finally bought a BMC Monstercross frameset.  Why?  Because it's dumb
 not to buy one.  The only thing that had been stopping me was the
 horizontal dropouts, because vertical dropouts are categorically better.
 Since the last time I decided horizontal dropouts were a dealkiller, I've
 acquired 4 bikes with horizontal dropouts, and guess what?  I didn't die.
 Vertical dropouts are better, but horizontals are not the end of the
 world.  The BRIGHT green colorway of the latest batch made it
 irresistable.  So, new bike day?  The build will be a drop bar mountain
 bike.  No racks, no lights, no fenders.  It'll be used for 2-3 hour
 mountain bike rides. I'll post photos when there is something to look at.
 I have a couple small details to iron out.

 In the meantime, there have been a couple gram-counter threads
 recently, and I thought I'd offer up another datapoint while I have a bare
 frame and fork:

 A 58cm Black Mountain Monstercross frame, with Cane Creek 40 headset
 cups pressed in, weighs 2257g
 The fork with a crown race installed and an uncut threadless steerer is
 1057g

 Use that data for whatever you like.

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Andy Beichler]

A roadish bike that will take 50mm tires sounds like what I have been 
waiting for.  I hope that is the case.


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[RBW] Re: long shot: looking to test ride a 60cm Cheviot in the DC area

[Mike Ahern]

I have a 60 Cheviot.  It's the best bike i ever owned.  I'm 6' and my pbh 
is 87.  I looked for that for a long time.  If you didnt like it, I feel 
its resale value would be high.

On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 11:23:10 AM UTC-7, Paul Richardson wrote:
>
> i'm looking to buy a Cheviot for my wife, who with an 83cm PBH is right on 
> the line between the 55cm and the 60cm Cheviot.  
>
> I'd like to get a 60cm for several reasons (such as...me being able to 
> ride it, too) but am concerned that it could be too big and she'll be 
> riding with the saddle jammed all the way down.
>
> if anyone in the DC area has a 60cm Cheviot, I'd love to meet up and take 
> it for a spin.  I'll buy you a cider afterward.
>
> thanks
> paul
> takoma park, md.
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[RBW] Re: 2020 Goals

[Pat Smith]

Cycling goals:
1) 2000+ miles. My goal this year was 1500 and I did 2000 so that shouldn't be 
a problem
2) Finish building my 650b all road bike. It's 80% done now and all parts are 
bought so again it shouldn't be a problem.
3) complete my first century ride. I did one metric century this year so I've 
got a long way to go.
4) continue to be a full time bike commuter. 4 years strong now so this 
shouldn't be a problem.

Non cycling goals:
1) get to the gym (weights) 150 times this year. Was a 2019 goal too and only 
made about 115. 
2) bring lunch to work 2 days a week. I'm currently a 5 day a week eat out guy. 

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[RBW] Re: Randi Jo Cap trade

[Paul Choi]

What color is it? I just returned a Medium Dark Grey to them on Tuesday. I 
need a Large Dark Grey but they are sold out. 

On Thursday, December 26, 2019 at 1:31:10 PM UTC-8, Adam wrote:
>
> Hey all. I purchased a RBW Randi Jo cap in size large but it’s too big for 
> me. Anyone have a medium they’d like to trade? If not I’ll return it to Riv 
> as I haven’t worn it. Thanks!

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[RBW] WTB: Shimano CX 70 brake

[truegolden]

Are these designated front and rear?

I have one lightly used pair but forgot if ran on front or rear.

Willing to part with it.

Paul in Dallas

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[RBW] Re: Rivelo closing in January

[Mark Roland]

Any retail endeavor is really, really, really hard to pull off these days.  
Retail bicycles, add another really. Non-mainstream, non-disc bikes, add 
another really. Adding in unrelated products to a specialty niche store, 
which tends to confuse many consumers, add another really. When the added 
products are non-digital cameras and vinyl records, add two more reallys. 
Maybe adding CBD chain oil to the mix would subtract a really, but I doubt 
it. 

No doubt John knew this going in, as he knew the fate of the Bike Book 
Hatchet store. It's a risky proposition and always a labor of love. I don't 
know John, but he was very helpful with advice through this forum when I 
had a question about my film camera. I wish him and his partner the best in 
their next chapter.

On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 1:16:02 AM UTC-5, Matt Dreher wrote:
>
> It's a terrible world that doesn't have a place for a shop that sells nice 
> bicycles and cameras and Bob Dylan records, but unfortunately we live in it.
>
> On Thursday, December 26, 2019 at 8:25:24 PM UTC-6, velomann wrote:
>>
>> From Instagram today: https://www.instagram.com/rivelo_pdx/
>>
>> As a local and regular, I'm pretty bummed by this. It felt as close to 
>> clubhouse as I've experienced in awhile, and there's really nowhere else 
>> around like it in terms of Rivendell, Dylan, film photography, and 
>> fascinating wide-ranging musings of political, musical, and just about 
>> everything else you care to discuss. 
>> I get that the business model was only ever going to appeal to a narrow 
>> clientele, and hopefully JB will elaborate on the decision. But I'm sad to 
>> see this development.
>>
>> On a related note, if there's anything Riv-ish you didn't get under the 
>> tree, I'm sure your patronage would be appreciated.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
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