Re: [RBW] Plus Rims for GBW

[Ed Fausto]

Hi Ed,
Thanks for the link.
I am hoping that Velocity will build the widest practical rim for Grant's
planned V-brakes.
Same here, I want to have my Susie as a dedicated trail bike :-)

By the way, could you send a picture and specs of your proto Gus?  :-)
Ed F.


On Tue, Feb 4, 2020 at 2:27 PM Ed Carolipio  wrote:

> Thanks for update.
>
> Coincidentally I was window shopping tires today at Maxxis for my
> proto-Gus. SoCal riders really like the DHF + DHR combo for our "loose over
> hard" trails. The Maxxis 2020 catalog has some recommendations on tire
> width vs rim width. Here's the link to catalog
> ,
> see p.6. Short version: 25 to 30mm for 2.2"-2.4"; 35-40mm for 2.6"; 40-45mm
> for 2.8"-3.0". For reference, the Cliffhangers have a 25mm internal width.
> In addition, the Maxxis "Wide Trail" (WT) casing is for tires 2.4" and up
> and optimized for wider rims: min inner width of 35mm but "can work over
> 30-35mm".
>
> Would be really nice to run a high volume, aggressive tire on the
> Gus/Susie when running it as a dedicated trail bike.
>
> --Ed  C.
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Re: [RBW] Plus Rims for GBW

[Ed Carolipio]

Thanks for update. 

Coincidentally I was window shopping tires today at Maxxis for my 
proto-Gus. SoCal riders really like the DHF + DHR combo for our "loose over 
hard" trails. The Maxxis 2020 catalog has some recommendations on tire 
width vs rim width. Here's the link to catalog 
, see 
p.6. Short version: 25 to 30mm for 2.2"-2.4"; 35-40mm for 2.6"; 40-45mm for 
2.8"-3.0". For reference, the Cliffhangers have a 25mm internal width. In 
addition, the Maxxis "Wide Trail" (WT) casing is for tires 2.4" and up and 
optimized for wider rims: min inner width of 35mm but "can work over 
30-35mm".

Would be really nice to run a high volume, aggressive tire on the Gus/Susie 
when running it as a dedicated trail bike.

--Ed  C.

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[RBW] Re: Riv Atlantis MTB Video

[YQ]

>
> Patrick -- thank you, will do!

Andrew --  thank you! It was filmed around Bear Mountain.
 

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[RBW] FS: 56 Sam Hillborne

[Applegate]

Ah! Forgot to ask the obligatory: what’s your PBH, and how do you find the bike 
fits you?

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[RBW] FS: 56 Sam Hillborne

[Applegate]

Hi Hayden,

I love the build! How old is this Sam? It’s in the centerpull Sam era—do you 
know what kind of tire/fender clearance it affords?

Thanks,

Alex

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Re: [RBW] Plus Rims for GBW

[Ed Fausto]

I have been patiently waiting for new rims for my Susie ever since I read
the news that Rivendell is working with Velocity for a new rim for their
Hillibikes.

I sent Velocity an email to check if they are still doing this project with
Rivendell and this is the reply I got.

-
Hello!

Thanks for taking the time to contact us via our webform. We are working on
a rim with Rivendell for their new hilly bike, but the details and timeline
are yet to be figured out. Unfortunately I don’t have more details for you.

Thanks for riding with Velocity USA! Please let me know if I can help in
any other way.
-

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 7:37 AM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I thought a thread for folks to post plus size rims that work with rim
> brakes would be helpful for prospective Gus Boots Willsen riders.
>
> Velocity’s Cliffhanger:
> Interior width of 25mm
> http://www.velocityusa.com/
>
> Will mentioned Alex Rims has an option, but their site isn’t playing
> nicely with my iPad, so I can’t see any specifics:
> http://www.alexrims.com/
>
> George Rosselle asked about these in a previous Boots thread:
> Halo Wheels SAS:
> Interior width of 30mm?
> https://www.halowheels.com/shop/components/sas-27-5-rim/
>
> More specifics and other options others have found?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
> www.CatholicHalos.org
> www.DeaconPatrick.org
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[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm Rosco Bubbe double TT frameset

[Paul M]

The Rosco sold. Thanks!
>
>
> On Monday, 3 February 2020 16:29:36 UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> The ETT on this is 60 and ST C-to-C is 52. My guess is the accurate size 
>> as Riv called it is 53.5-54cm. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Bags! Revelate, Rapha, Rockgeist, Jones

[lukeheller]

Jones sold.
Revelate sold.
Rockgeist and Rapha still available.

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 9:48:51 AM UTC-5, lukeheller wrote:
>
> $5 off everything. Help me consolidate trips to the post office. 
> Jones bag sold. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm Rosco Bubbe double TT frameset

[Paul M]

This is version 5 of the Rosco Bubbe run. The seattube center to top of 
toptube is 53cm and 56cm to the top of the seattube.The toptube has a 8.2 
degree upward slope making the max standover with 42c tires 83cm. 

On Monday, 3 February 2020 16:29:36 UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The ETT on this is 60 and ST C-to-C is 52. My guess is the accurate size 
> as Riv called it is 53.5-54cm. 

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[RBW] Re: 69 cm A Homer Hilsen for $1100 on eBay (not mine)

[Bill F]

Great find!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking about cycling for me in the future....

[Ian Dickson]

I was just telling my girlfriend about how, when I was a bike messenger 
many years ago, I got hit by cars several times and always bounced up and 
kept riding. I'm almost 50 now, and there are people who depend on me. I do 
still ride in the city, but I'm a lot more judicious about where and how I 
do it. It is important to be safe, but more importantly, there is no point 
forcing yourself to do it if you don't enjoy it.

I'd only say, if you find that you miss riding, that it's worth giving 
other kinds of cycling a shot to see if you like them after all. I used to 
be strictly a road rider, but now I strongly prefer gravel roads and double 
track. I don't have much interest in real mountain biking, but riding in 
the woods or mountains is great. It's okay to drive your bike somewhere and 
then ride.


On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 5:15:31 AM UTC-7, John Phillips wrote:
>
> Hi BBDD, 
> Thank you for your kind words. You're right, my bike was my lifeline 
> back then.
>
> I envy you your sidewalks! Compared to my sidewalks, those look like MUP's!
>
> John
>
>
> On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 1:03:22 PM UTC-8, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> I know this was a horror story with the threatening drivers and untimely 
>> death of your mother. But aside from that, I was enthralled picturing a 
>> free-spirited but grieving long-haired teen riding along the ocean, racing 
>> the squalls coming off of the Pacific and night riding on lonely beach town 
>> streets. 
>>
>> I’m so sorry about your mom, John. It sounds like your bike helped you 
>> deal, and I’m glad it did and that you were unharmed on your rides.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2020, at 11:39 AM, John Phillips  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I had forgotten that I had gone through a time like our OP's 47 years 
>> ago in 1974. 
>>
>> I was in my early teens, had a drop bar bike and would blow off steam 
>> by taking hour long rides after school along the ocean. Then three things 
>> happened, my mom passed away, I grew my hair long out of anger and 
>> rebellion and because she wasn't around any longer to pester me, and 
>> tourism really, really took off. The roads were filling up with people in 
>> cars not watching the road, or opening car doors without looking, or 
>> standing in the middle of the road to take in the view. Or they really 
>> hated long haired kids on bikes. Several times I found myself checking over 
>> my shoulder or under my left arm to find the mirror of a Winnebago 3-4 feet 
>> from my head even though I was hugging the right-hand edge of the asphalt, 
>> and the driver glaring at me with intent. There was plenty of room to give 
>> me the lane, let alone 1-2 feet of space, but no, I didn't belong there and 
>> he was going to give me a lesson. There were too many people who didn't 
>> have a qualm running a long haired teenager off the road or hitting them 
>> with their vehicle.
>>
>> So I took to riding at night. Nearly no body was on those roads at 
>> night, and I could hear cars coming from a long way off or see the 
>> headlights, and I would just pull of the road. Or in winter, I rode in 
>> stormy weather which kept the tourists away as well. I would try and race 
>> the squalls coming in off the Pacific. A couple of years later, I cut my 
>> hair, but it was still a bit too risky to ride when the tourists were out. 
>> And it was quiet and peaceful having the rods to myself.
>>
>>I don't propose this as a solution for anyone. I'm just saying I know 
>> what it feels like to fear riding has just become way too dangerous to do 
>> anymore.
>>
>> John
>>
>> PS: There weren't any sidewalks, but sometimes I rode the golf cart paths 
>> at night when no one was playing. Mea culpa.
>>
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[RBW] Re: 69 cm A Homer Hilsen for $1100 on eBay (not mine)

[Joe Bernard]

Gorgeous!

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[RBW] FS: 56cm Rosco Bubbe double TT frameset

[Joe Bernard]

The ETT on this is 60 and ST C-to-C is 52. My guess is the accurate size as Riv 
called it is 53.5-54cm. 

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[RBW] FS: 56cm Rosco Bubbe double TT frameset

[Tom Wyland]

Yes the 55.5 Riv size should have a 64 ETT and like 88 stand over. The 50 size 
is the one with the 83 stand over and 58 ETT? 

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[RBW] FS: 56cm Rosco Bubbe double TT frameset

[Joe Bernard]

Paul, you might want to measure to the top of the toptube, that's generally how 
Riv sizes their frames. 56cm to the top of the seattube looks significantly 
above that line to me. 

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[RBW] Re: Tires for Toyo Fatlantis?

[Adam Leibow]

the antelope hills are great for mt. tam; i know because i have ridden all 
over on my clem L with those tires. rivendell also has these schwalbe g one 
all arounds that are similarly fast-rolling but have some knobbage that 
bites if you want that.

On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 10:22:24 AM UTC-8, Thomas B wrote:
>
> I would like to put some bigger tires on my Toyo Atlantis for some of the 
> steeper off-road trails around Mt. Tam and East Bay Hills. At the moment I 
> run Barlow Pass and am pretty clueless about off-road tires In general and 
> what to look for. Any advice? 
>
> Recent pictures from fellow El Cerrito resident Hillbubba have been quite 
> inspirational. 
>
> Thanks 
> Tom

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[RBW] Re: Long shot desperately seeking 56 cm saluki.

[Hugh Smitham]

Bump.

On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 4:56:16 PM UTC-8, Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
> Just kidding I'm nowhere near desperate but I figured I'd try and see if 
> anybody wanted to sell a 56 CM saluki frame and fork?
>
> I'm expecting crickets but hey you never know?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Hugh
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm Rosco Bubbe double TT frameset

[Chris L]

This was my favorite of the Rosco's and it's like Grant personalized the 
fit just for me.  Alas, I just bought a Hunqapillar and no new bikes are in 
my near future. 



On Monday, February 3, 2020 at 12:40:13 PM UTC-6, Paul M wrote:
>
> Hello, For sale is my Rivendell Rosco Bubbe v.5 frameset that is in good 
> condition with no dents, dings or rust. It does have some  light scratches 
> and scrapes from being used as a town bike but overall looks great. There 
> is paint missing where the rear wheel was positioned in the horizontal 
> dropouts. Rides comfortably and tracks straight with semi-long chainstays 
> (49cm). I rode it with Bruce Gordon rocknroad 43c tires with realistic 
> clearance. Quickbeam fork. Original listing said this size was for 84 
> -88.5cm PBH. Frame/fork/headset/seatpost included. Email me for more 
> photos. Sorry no head badge. $425 plus shipping. Thanks
>
> ST 56cm c-t, 52cm c-c
> TT 60cm c-c effective, 58cm actual
> CS 48-49cm horizontal
> HT 190mm
> HT angle 72.5
> ST angle 72
> only 11 made
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Tires for Toyo Fatlantis?

[Braxton Colagross]

I'm going to +1 on the Thunder Burts as well. Most likely my favorite tire. 
Addix Speed red. 

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Presale

[Steve Cole]

I tried to post the Riv Appaloosa Pre-Order webpage but no luck.  The 
website says the sizes are:  48, 51, 54, 57, and 60 cm.  In an earlier 
email from Riv, Will (perhaps it was Grant) noted that the geometry is 
virtually identical to that of the new MIT Atlantis except colors and sizes 
differ.  The MIT Atlantis sizes are: 47, 50 53, 55, 59, 62 cm.  If one can 
live with the color, size can be dialed in better with these choices than 
for many other Riv frames.

On Sunday, January 26, 2020 at 12:04:09 PM UTC-7, Bill F wrote:
>
> Appaloosa presale is up today.   
>
> I pulled the trigger on a blue 60 cm for my first Rivendell.

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Presale

[Steve Cole]

Here's the preorder sizing on the Riv website:



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2020 Appaloosa Framset - Preorder

$1,500.00

Size
46CM PREORDER
51CM PREORDER
54CM PREORDER
57CM PREORDER
60CM PREORDER

On Sunday, January 26, 2020 at 12:04:09 PM UTC-7, Bill F wrote:
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> Appaloosa presale is up today.   
>
> I pulled the trigger on a blue 60 cm for my first Rivendell.

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[RBW] Looking for 4" section (or so) of nice, silver, aluminum handlebar

[masmojo]

I probably have some, 22.2 or 7/8" I presume?

Just message me your address & how long a piece you need. 

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[RBW] Re: Tips for mounting tubeless tires with tubes

[masmojo]

Mounting tires with tubes on tubeless rims is one of life's most confounding 
things and used to drive me crazy, but I recently figured out "the trick".
May not work with every rim, but after my first foray into trying to do it, 
failing and then going to my local shop and watching my buddy do it without any 
tools, I figured "OK, I am doing  something wrong"
Without getting too involved I will try to tell you what causes problems and 
the solution.
First, when you put a tire on a tubeless rim the first bead wants to ride up on 
the opposite shoulder (as it should) then the second side also wants to ride 
the shoulder when you put it on. This all adds up and means you can't get that 
last bit on.
Solution: when you get down to that last bit. Go around and push both beads 
together in the middle,  the opposite of where you are trying to push the last 
bit of bead over, make sure those two beads are pushed together And riding in 
the trough in the middle of the rim and not on the shoulders. This will create 
enough slack on the opposite side to push the bead on!
Hopefully that makes sense? It would be easier to show you then try to write an 
explanation, but . . .
Most times now I can pretty much get mine on by hand with no tools; but I 
pinched lord knows how many tubes before I finally figured it out.

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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa Presale

[Mark Roland]

The "newly updated" 2019 PBH and size chart lists the Apoloosa 55/58. I guess 
they changed for 2020, but the only other chart on the website is the 2017.

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[RBW] WTB: Paul canti brakes and levers

[Tom Norton]

I have asked of Touring Cantilever brakes in silver,not polished.
I would consider selling for $175.
Let me know

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[RBW] Re: PSA: stop swap and save

[Pat Smith]

Looks dangerous for my wallet and my wife's happiness. I should stay away, 
good thing I don't own a car to drive myself there.

Pat in DC

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking about cycling for me in the future....

[John Phillips]

Hi BBDD, 
Thank you for your kind words. You're right, my bike was my lifeline 
back then.

I envy you your sidewalks! Compared to my sidewalks, those look like MUP's!

John


On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 1:03:22 PM UTC-8, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> I know this was a horror story with the threatening drivers and untimely 
> death of your mother. But aside from that, I was enthralled picturing a 
> free-spirited but grieving long-haired teen riding along the ocean, racing 
> the squalls coming off of the Pacific and night riding on lonely beach town 
> streets. 
>
> I’m so sorry about your mom, John. It sounds like your bike helped you 
> deal, and I’m glad it did and that you were unharmed on your rides.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 2, 2020, at 11:39 AM, John Phillips  > wrote:
>
> 
> I had forgotten that I had gone through a time like our OP's 47 years 
> ago in 1974. 
>
> I was in my early teens, had a drop bar bike and would blow off steam 
> by taking hour long rides after school along the ocean. Then three things 
> happened, my mom passed away, I grew my hair long out of anger and 
> rebellion and because she wasn't around any longer to pester me, and 
> tourism really, really took off. The roads were filling up with people in 
> cars not watching the road, or opening car doors without looking, or 
> standing in the middle of the road to take in the view. Or they really 
> hated long haired kids on bikes. Several times I found myself checking over 
> my shoulder or under my left arm to find the mirror of a Winnebago 3-4 feet 
> from my head even though I was hugging the right-hand edge of the asphalt, 
> and the driver glaring at me with intent. There was plenty of room to give 
> me the lane, let alone 1-2 feet of space, but no, I didn't belong there and 
> he was going to give me a lesson. There were too many people who didn't 
> have a qualm running a long haired teenager off the road or hitting them 
> with their vehicle.
>
> So I took to riding at night. Nearly no body was on those roads at 
> night, and I could hear cars coming from a long way off or see the 
> headlights, and I would just pull of the road. Or in winter, I rode in 
> stormy weather which kept the tourists away as well. I would try and race 
> the squalls coming in off the Pacific. A couple of years later, I cut my 
> hair, but it was still a bit too risky to ride when the tourists were out. 
> And it was quiet and peaceful having the rods to myself.
>
>I don't propose this as a solution for anyone. I'm just saying I know 
> what it feels like to fear riding has just become way too dangerous to do 
> anymore.
>
> John
>
> PS: There weren't any sidewalks, but sometimes I rode the golf cart paths 
> at night when no one was playing. Mea culpa.
>
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