date:20200320

As the stakes are so high, we should be careful not to spread 
misinformation.  To be clear, it has repeatedly been proven that Homeopathy 
is not effective as medicine.  Look up the original sources on your own, 
they go back to the early 20th century. Great source of hydration tho!   

For the record, the British government (mentioned in an earlier post as 
funding homeopathy) stopped supporting homeopathy in 2017...incredibly late 
in the game but none-the-less, their highest court and the NHS agreed that, 
factually, it is not medicine. 

I'm sorry to post a response, but it is very dangerous if anyone on this 
list thinks they can stave off a deadly disease with homeopathy. 

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 3:42:42 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Yeah no, I'm not buying snake oil. 

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

I've had two bikes set up with 42 in front and 11-32 in back.  My Sam 
Hillborne, which I use as an all-purpose road bike, and have done several 
200k brevets and one 300k on it in moderately hilly California.  My Legolas 
is also set up 42x11-32.  

I converted my Hillborne back to a 3x9 to prepare it for loaded touring.  

I use 2x10 drivetrains more often.  My traditional brevet bike has a 42/26 
and an 11-28 cassette.  My Roadeo is 46/30 and a 12-27 cassette.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:28:28 PM UTC-7, j.schwartz wrote:
>
> Bill
> In your experience a 42 single ring up front and an 11-32, say 10-speed, 
> cassette in the back is appropriate for a more roadish bike with moderate 
> to sometimes intense hills?
> I will be building up a similar bike and have some Sram Apex 10-speed 
> drivetrain bits including cassette, derailleur and brifters, but no 
> crankset yet.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 9:42:32 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> It's becoming more and more commonplace to run a 1x drivetrain.  Your 
>> existing XD2 with a nice narrow-wide ring, intelligently chosen, could be a 
>> really smart setup.  I've had very good success with a 42T ring, and an 
>> 11-28 or 11-32 cassette, but I have hills to speak of.  With really no 
>> hills to speak of, you could go even smaller in the cassette, like 11-26.  
>> If you are never pedalling over 40MPH then you likely don't need higher 
>> than a 42x11.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:20:51 PM UTC-7, Bones wrote:
>>>
>>> I could use some input on what type of crank would work best for me 
>>> here. I will be using the bike as a sporty, zip around the river bike. No 
>>> club rides or racing or anything like that. I live in south Jersey, so no 
>>> hills to speak of, just wind. The wide/lows on my Appaloosa and Clem are 
>>> perfect, and I don't spend much time on the big ring on my Sam's triple. 
>>> I'd like to keep the gearing minimal but functional, and of course it has 
>>> to look handsome on the Roadini. I have an extra RD2 crank from a single 
>>> speed lying around, maybe I can do something with that? I'm not opposed to 
>>> getting something new...
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

I'll answer for us "not strong like Bill" folks: Nope. I'd use a 42 x 32 low 
for flattish-to-rolling terrain, but I'm going to need at least a 36t rear for 
intense hills and preferably a 42t. 

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[RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World

Yeah no, I'm not buying snake oil. 

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[RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World

2020-03-20 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch

As the stakes are so high I am posting this. It seems reasonable to flatten
the curve by reasonable and available means, and as homeopathy is readily
available and inexpensive, and the supply chain is in the US or France, and
thus costs $5 to use the preventative per person for weeks (without side
effects), for those who are interested here are two links. If you're not
interested, please ignore:

Addressing the efficacy of homeopathy, there is science to back it up:
https://www.britishhomeopathic.org/evidence/the-evidence-for-homeopathy/

>From the branch of Homeopathy that Saint Mother Teresa learned from, here
is their recommended protocol for preventing COVID-19:
https://www.pbhrfindia.org/blog/16-homeopathy-a-various-diseases/256-suggested-remedy-for-ncorv-with-banerji-protocols.html

It reads:

Under 'The Banerji Protocols' of Treatment, with Homeopathic medicines: For
Prevention of nCorV the best medicine is 'Thuja 30'.

The suggested dose for this medicine will be , once daily for 7 days, then
once a week for 3 weeks. This medicine is available at any Homeopathic
Pharmacy.

As Corona is a viral infection, and humans have no natural immunity against
viruses, our approach to the treatment will be on the basis of symptoms. We
have very good antiviral as well as medicines chosen according to symptoms.
We are very successful in the treatment of measles, chicken pox and swine
flu. This is very similar and can be very successfully handled with our
Protocols.

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

2020-03-20 Thread j.schwartz

Bill
In your experience a 42 single ring up front and an 11-32, say 10-speed, 
cassette in the back is appropriate for a more roadish bike with moderate 
to sometimes intense hills?
I will be building up a similar bike and have some Sram Apex 10-speed 
drivetrain bits including cassette, derailleur and brifters, but no 
crankset yet.






On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 9:42:32 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> It's becoming more and more commonplace to run a 1x drivetrain.  Your 
> existing XD2 with a nice narrow-wide ring, intelligently chosen, could be a 
> really smart setup.  I've had very good success with a 42T ring, and an 
> 11-28 or 11-32 cassette, but I have hills to speak of.  With really no 
> hills to speak of, you could go even smaller in the cassette, like 11-26.  
> If you are never pedalling over 40MPH then you likely don't need higher 
> than a 42x11.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:20:51 PM UTC-7, Bones wrote:
>>
>> I could use some input on what type of crank would work best for me here. 
>> I will be using the bike as a sporty, zip around the river bike. No club 
>> rides or racing or anything like that. I live in south Jersey, so no hills 
>> to speak of, just wind. The wide/lows on my Appaloosa and Clem are perfect, 
>> and I don't spend much time on the big ring on my Sam's triple. I'd like to 
>> keep the gearing minimal but functional, and of course it has to look 
>> handsome on the Roadini. I have an extra RD2 crank from a single speed 
>> lying around, maybe I can do something with that? I'm not opposed to 
>> getting something new...
>>
>

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[RBW] WTB or WTT Royal Blue Large Trunksack OR Royal Saddle Sack

I am looking for some Royal Blue Sackville bags to complete my Sam build.

I have an extra small Saddle Sack and Small Trunk Sack to trade, if 
interested.  Both are in Olive.  But I’ll pay cash as well.

Thanks!!

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day: The Wait is Finally Over!

Hey Ricky, 
My Pletscher was $15 I believe, from our local bike Co-op StL Bikeworks.  They 
had several old ones lying about.   I like the versatility of it quite a bit.  
Not quite as shiny as my chrome bits, but I’ll try polishing it up and see if 
that works.

-Nathan Mattia

“I believe in order to understand.” 
-St. Augustine

> On Mar 20, 2020, at 8:56 AM, E. Ricky Creek  wrote:
> 
> 
> I love that you used a Pletscher rack. I have one on  my Atlantis and my wife 
> has one on her Appaloosa. I always pick them up at flea markets if they are 
> under $5. They are almost always missing hardware, but there is a way to 
> mount them using the leftover P-clamps that come with Nitto racks. 
>   Congrats and engoy! 
> 
>> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:34:00 PM UTC-5, Nathan Mattia wrote:
>> Drove 5 hours back from our spring break in Tennessee today with my family.  
>> On the outside I was all appropriate business:  “Wash your hands in the 
>> bathrooms.”  “Use these wipes to open the gas station doors.”  “Stop 
>> touching your brother’s face!” I even managed to carry on meaningful and 
>> necessary discussions with my wife about how we were going to set up the 
>> house to work from home while dealing with our 2 boys.  I am proud I held 
>> onto this responsible veneer when, on the inside, all I could do was think 
>> about how I was going to leave the house the MOMENT we were done unpacking 
>> and go get my Sam Hillborne.  
>> 
>> And here it is in *almost* all its glory.  Got to ride it for about a mile 
>> before rain and dinner interfered.  
>> First impressions:  
>> 1.  It’s the most comfortable bike I’ve ever saddled up.
>> 2.  It’s the first bike I’ve had that just FIT.  I’m not trying to 
>> constantly scoot back in the saddle.
>> 3.  The Low Bottom Bracket thing is for real, y’all.  Not sure I can go back.
>> 4.  I thought my ‘83 Specialized Expedition won the JD Power and Associates  
>> Hallmark of Cadillac Stability Award, (and maybe it does when fully loaded) 
>> but this Sammy is SMOOTH.
>>  
>> *still to be added are a water bottle holder a Medium Wald Basket (on the 
>> Pletscher in the rear?), a small Olive Trunk Sack and an extra-small Olive 
>> SaddleSack.  
>> BY THE WAY, my Sackville are all in Olive and, as you can see here, I’ve got 
>> a blue/orange motif going.  Anybody interested in trading me some Royal Blue 
>> Sackville items for my Olive?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[RBW] Re: MUSA Pants

2020-03-20 Thread 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch

I'm 5'11", 32" waist and the Mediums are a little tight. I'd probably have 
been better off with a large.

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:21:58 AM UTC-4, Dan Kretzer wrote:
>
> What can you tell me about the fit of the current MUSA long pants now back 
> in stock? (the tapered ones)
>
> Always find buying clothes online risky. Most Riv stuff is cut generously 
> but I'm probably at the upper end of the XL.
> (235 Lbs 36-38 waist depending on cut, 6'3")
>
> -Dan
>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day: The Wait is Finally Over!

You ain’t kiddin, Rocky.  I had heard that phrase before, but it finally 
DOES make sense

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 10:54:06 AM UTC-5, Rocky B wrote:
>
> Great looking bike  
>
> I, too, am a big fan of low BB drops.  Riv introduced it to me and it’s 
> one of the first dimensions I look at when I look at a bike’s geometry 
> chart.  I love the feeling of riding “in” a bike instead of riding “on top” 
> of one (if that makes any sense.) 
>
> Rocky

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

Eric G@rs

No, when I have ridden road bikes with a 1x drivetrain and a standard 
chainring, I have not experienced a frequency of chain drops that I 
considered problematic.  Generally I think the bumpier one's riding the 
more likely the chain will drop.  Generally I think the wider the rear 
cassette and the shorter the chainstays the more likely the chain will 
drop.  

My general recommendation is use what you have or use what you like.  If 
the frequency of chain drops is a problem for you and you want to fix it, 
then add a mitigation.  For your case, you used what you wanted to use, and 
you currently don't have a problem, so don't fix it.  For the OP, who 
already has a 42T ring, I recommended that he give it a shot, and I repeat: 
give it a shot.  If there are no problems, don't fix them.  The mitigations 
that I've seen and heard of people using include:

narrow wide rings
a dummy FD
a chain guide
clutch rear der
high chain tension (short chain)
stronger RD spring tension
sandwich of chainguards on either side (the old school cyclocross fix)

I think it would be wasteful to throw all those mitigations at a build 
before you even know whether you have a problem.  My most recent 1x road 
build needed a new ring, and so I went ahead and used a narrow-wide ring.  
I can't prove I needed to use it.  My most recent 1x cyclocross build was 
from the ground up, and I elected to use a clutch RD and a narrow wide 
ring.  Whether I could have gotten away without either of those is unknown

BL in EC

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 9:51:49 AM UTC-7, Eric G@rs wrote:
>
> I’ve gone without a front derailleur or chain keeper for years without 
> ever having a chain drop using a standard crankset that isn’t optimized 
> with fancy 1x chainrings. I only do road riding, though. Bill, when you say 
> you think chain drop is a real thing, do you mean that you’ve experienced 
> in using a 1x with standard chainrings?

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[RBW] Re: Fortunate Timing -- My New MIT Atlantis

2020-03-20 Thread Applegate

Looking GOOD! I would *love* to see some close-up shots on the fender 
clearance at the frame and fork, as I'm also looking for an aluminum fender 
to put on my MIT Atlantis 55.

Thanks,

Alex
Berkeley, CA

On Friday, 20 March 2020 05:17:04 UTC-7, Steve Cole wrote:
>
> As we’ve all no doubt discovered, social isolation, plain and simple, is 
> not fun.  Going for long walks or rides is a wonderful antidote.  For me, 
> these rides have been doubly fun on my new MIT Atlantis received just last 
> week. James at Analog Cycles helped we work out the build details and his 
> partner Candice built the bike.  I heartily recommend them.
>
>  
>
> Some background before going over the choices I made.   I’m 70 years 
> old.  I still try to ride 3-4 times each week.  Generally, my rides average 
> around 20 miles in length.  Most of my rides are on pavement but some are 
> on paths, dirt roads, etc.  I wanted a bike that would serve my needs 
> extremely well 90% of the time and would be adequate or better the other 
> 10%.  Finally, I think of this as my last bike.  It may not be, but I 
> approached it as if it were.  
>
>  
>
> I am a long-time aficionado of Rivendell bikes.  I own a Toyo A. Homer 
> Hilsen and a SimpleOne (converted to a Rohloff hub).  My wife rides a Betty 
> Foy.  Assuming my new Atlantis meets my goals, I’ll be passing my other 
> bikes along to others.  To start with, I like the classic Rivendell look of 
> silver components. In addition, my component choices reflect some elements 
> of my other RBW bikes.  Other choices were influenced by James at 
> Analog.  Most will consider this a high-end build.  In the end, since I 
> approached it as my last bike, I tended to avoid making compromises.
>
>  
>
> *Frameset: *MIT Atlantis 55 cm, 700c wheels
>
> My AHH is 59 cm and my SimpleOne is 58 cm.  Not surprisingly, I expected 
> to ride a 59 cm MIT Atlantis.  The geometry of the new longer seat stay/top 
> tube MIT Atlantis is such that the shorter seat tube is right on point for 
> me.  Before I understood this, I bought a 59 cm, used (I love the look with 
> the rainbow second top tube).  Thanks to James, however, I switched to a 
> new 55 cm and the seller of the 59 cm was kind enough to take it back.
>
>  
>
> *Headset*: Cane Creek 110 – EC30
>
> As is also the case with bottom brackets (see below), I dithered with the 
> other classic headsets, Chris King, Phil Wood, Tange, etc.  James steered 
> me (pun intended) to the Cane Creek.  I expect my children will use it well.
>
>  
>
> *Handlebars*:  Nitto Bullmoose
>
> These are the bars (with the incorporated stem) I have installed on my 
> AHH.  I prefer bars for which the grip is like grasping a bar running 
> parallel to me rather than shaking hands with a bar that is running 
> alongside me (I sold my Albatrosses some time ago).  Personal 
> preference.  With a 34-degree sweep, these are just right.  In addition, 
> the extra extension running in front gives me a place to attach my 
> handlebar bag and phone while preserving a second location for my hands 
> close to the stem when I’m climbing.
>
>  
>
> *Brakes:*  Paul Motolites with Paul Love 2.5 Levers
>
> I want brakes with a very firm action – no squishiness.  Shimano brakes 
> have always seemed overly squishy.  With these brakes, I now have Paul 
> brakes on all three bikes, Racers on my AHH, Touring Cantilevers on my SO 
> and these Motolites on my MIT Atlantis.  I swear by all three.
>
>  
>
> *Drivetrain: *Rear* - *Shimano XT RD-M772 Shadow 9-speed; Front – Shimano 
> CX-70;
>
> Shifters: Shimano XT Rapid Fire 3x9; Crankset – 
> Middleburn RS7, 170 mm, 44/32/24;
>
> Cassette – Sunrace M9, 9-speed wide ratio 11T-40T
>
> The choices here reflect my age and conditioning as much as any other 
> components.  First, I wanted a drivetrain that would help me ease my way up 
> some significant hills but also allow me to maintain good speed/cadence on 
> the flats.  I chose the RapidFire shifters, which are also on my AHH, 
> because I simply like precise, easy shifting.  James encouraged me to get 
> the Middleburn cranks noting they are beautiful, extremely strong, 
> English-made.  They are available as a triple and have a replaceable 
> spider.  He was right on all accounts – no regrets.
>
>  
>
> *Bottom Bracket: * SKF 110 mm
>
> Not much to say here.  I wanted a trouble-free, sealed BB.  Everything 
> I’ve read suggested this BB is more than up to the task.
>
>  
>
> *Wheels:*  Rims - Velocity Quill 700c; Spokes – Sapim Race; Front Hub – 
> SONdeluxe Widebody 
>
> Dynamo; Rear Hub – Bitex BX103R; Tires – Rene Herse 
> Antelope Hill EL Tubeless
>
> I always think of Grant Petersen’s admonition about the cheapest and most 
> worthwhile component available is air.  Purchasing the MIT Atlantis was 
> integral to increasing the volume of air available to me.  As the MIT 
> Atlantis 55 cm is a brand-new design, there was no way to

[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

2020-03-20 Thread Bones

Ok thanks all, I have a place to start now. I suppose I’ll just slap my 
Sugino on there when it comes and feel it out from there.

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 12:31:50 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> If you have a 42 already, there is little harm in trying it out.  I think 
> chain dropping is a real thing, and a wide-narrow ring is one of several 
> mitigations to reduce its likelihood.  Wolf tooth makes a 130BCD 42 tooth 
> wide narrow ring and I'm sure others do as well.  
> https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/products/130-bcd-cyclocross-chainrings?variant=14782015209507
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:29:02 AM UTC-7, Bones wrote:
>>
>> Ya that’s a good idea too. Oddly enough the crank already has a standard 
>> Sugino 42t ring on it. Would that be sufficient? I’ve only ever used it 
>> with a single freewheel. I’ve read things in the past about chains jumping 
>> on 1x setups... is that even a concern with a road bike though?
>>
>> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 9:42:32 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> It's becoming more and more commonplace to run a 1x drivetrain.  Your 
>>> existing XD2 with a nice narrow-wide ring, intelligently chosen, could be a 
>>> really smart setup.  I've had very good success with a 42T ring, and an 
>>> 11-28 or 11-32 cassette, but I have hills to speak of.  With really no 
>>> hills to speak of, you could go even smaller in the cassette, like 11-26.  
>>> If you are never pedalling over 40MPH then you likely don't need higher 
>>> than a 42x11.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:20:51 PM UTC-7, Bones wrote:

 I could use some input on what type of crank would work best for me 
 here. I will be using the bike as a sporty, zip around the river bike. No 
 club rides or racing or anything like that. I live in south Jersey, so no 
 hills to speak of, just wind. The wide/lows on my Appaloosa and Clem are 
 perfect, and I don't spend much time on the big ring on my Sam's triple. 
 I'd like to keep the gearing minimal but functional, and of course it has 
 to look handsome on the Roadini. I have an extra RD2 crank from a single 
 speed lying around, maybe I can do something with that? I'm not opposed to 
 getting something new...

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Fortunate Timing -- My New MIT Atlantis

2020-03-20 Thread Steve Cole

Does anyone know why my photos are posting upside down?

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:17:04 AM UTC-4, Steve Cole wrote:
>
> As we’ve all no doubt discovered, social isolation, plain and simple, is 
> not fun.  Going for long walks or rides is a wonderful antidote.  For me, 
> these rides have been doubly fun on my new MIT Atlantis received just last 
> week. James at Analog Cycles helped we work out the build details and his 
> partner Candice built the bike.  I heartily recommend them.
>
>  
>
> Some background before going over the choices I made.   I’m 70 years 
> old.  I still try to ride 3-4 times each week.  Generally, my rides average 
> around 20 miles in length.  Most of my rides are on pavement but some are 
> on paths, dirt roads, etc.  I wanted a bike that would serve my needs 
> extremely well 90% of the time and would be adequate or better the other 
> 10%.  Finally, I think of this as my last bike.  It may not be, but I 
> approached it as if it were.  
>
>  
>
> I am a long-time aficionado of Rivendell bikes.  I own a Toyo A. Homer 
> Hilsen and a SimpleOne (converted to a Rohloff hub).  My wife rides a Betty 
> Foy.  Assuming my new Atlantis meets my goals, I’ll be passing my other 
> bikes along to others.  To start with, I like the classic Rivendell look of 
> silver components. In addition, my component choices reflect some elements 
> of my other RBW bikes.  Other choices were influenced by James at 
> Analog.  Most will consider this a high-end build.  In the end, since I 
> approached it as my last bike, I tended to avoid making compromises.
>
>  
>
> *Frameset: *MIT Atlantis 55 cm, 700c wheels
>
> My AHH is 59 cm and my SimpleOne is 58 cm.  Not surprisingly, I expected 
> to ride a 59 cm MIT Atlantis.  The geometry of the new longer seat stay/top 
> tube MIT Atlantis is such that the shorter seat tube is right on point for 
> me.  Before I understood this, I bought a 59 cm, used (I love the look with 
> the rainbow second top tube).  Thanks to James, however, I switched to a 
> new 55 cm and the seller of the 59 cm was kind enough to take it back.
>
>  
>
> *Headset*: Cane Creek 110 – EC30
>
> As is also the case with bottom brackets (see below), I dithered with the 
> other classic headsets, Chris King, Phil Wood, Tange, etc.  James steered 
> me (pun intended) to the Cane Creek.  I expect my children will use it well.
>
>  
>
> *Handlebars*:  Nitto Bullmoose
>
> These are the bars (with the incorporated stem) I have installed on my 
> AHH.  I prefer bars for which the grip is like grasping a bar running 
> parallel to me rather than shaking hands with a bar that is running 
> alongside me (I sold my Albatrosses some time ago).  Personal 
> preference.  With a 34-degree sweep, these are just right.  In addition, 
> the extra extension running in front gives me a place to attach my 
> handlebar bag and phone while preserving a second location for my hands 
> close to the stem when I’m climbing.
>
>  
>
> *Brakes:*  Paul Motolites with Paul Love 2.5 Levers
>
> I want brakes with a very firm action – no squishiness.  Shimano brakes 
> have always seemed overly squishy.  With these brakes, I now have Paul 
> brakes on all three bikes, Racers on my AHH, Touring Cantilevers on my SO 
> and these Motolites on my MIT Atlantis.  I swear by all three.
>
>  
>
> *Drivetrain: *Rear* - *Shimano XT RD-M772 Shadow 9-speed; Front – Shimano 
> CX-70;
>
> Shifters: Shimano XT Rapid Fire 3x9; Crankset – 
> Middleburn RS7, 170 mm, 44/32/24;
>
> Cassette – Sunrace M9, 9-speed wide ratio 11T-40T
>
> The choices here reflect my age and conditioning as much as any other 
> components.  First, I wanted a drivetrain that would help me ease my way up 
> some significant hills but also allow me to maintain good speed/cadence on 
> the flats.  I chose the RapidFire shifters, which are also on my AHH, 
> because I simply like precise, easy shifting.  James encouraged me to get 
> the Middleburn cranks noting they are beautiful, extremely strong, 
> English-made.  They are available as a triple and have a replaceable 
> spider.  He was right on all accounts – no regrets.
>
>  
>
> *Bottom Bracket: * SKF 110 mm
>
> Not much to say here.  I wanted a trouble-free, sealed BB.  Everything 
> I’ve read suggested this BB is more than up to the task.
>
>  
>
> *Wheels:*  Rims - Velocity Quill 700c; Spokes – Sapim Race; Front Hub – 
> SONdeluxe Widebody 
>
> Dynamo; Rear Hub – Bitex BX103R; Tires – Rene Herse 
> Antelope Hill EL Tubeless
>
> I always think of Grant Petersen’s admonition about the cheapest and most 
> worthwhile component available is air.  Purchasing the MIT Atlantis was 
> integral to increasing the volume of air available to me.  As the MIT 
> Atlantis 55 cm is a brand-new design, there was no way to know before 
> receiving it how large a tire it would accommodate.  A bit surprised, it 
> not only handles the 55 mm wide Antelope Hill, we were

[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

I’ve gone without a front derailleur or chain keeper for years without ever 
having a chain drop using a standard crankset that isn’t optimized with fancy 
1x chainrings. I only do road riding, though. Bill, when you say you think 
chain drop is a real thing, do you mean that you’ve experienced in using a 1x 
with standard chainrings?

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Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World

2020-03-20 Thread David Bivins

Glad you're on the mend, neighbor!

David B also in Brooklyn

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 9:25 AM lambbo  wrote:

> I just tested positive for Coronavirus!
>
> Good news is I'm healthy (after flu-like symptoms that were no fun) and my
> baby daughter and wife (who is a CNM, NP and works at Mount Sinai West),
> are all fine and have not bad symptoms, and in fact we've done a great job
> quarantining, and *could *go out now via CDC guidelines, tho we want to
> be very careful.
>
> So, let it be know, comm
> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 4:33:05 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Yes you posted this already. I'm in California, not Alabama, and I'm not
>> convinced a group ride of any distances from each other will be allowed. I
>> mean obviously it's hard to enforce and you may not get stopped, but it's
>> not in the spirit of what we're being asked to do here.
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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

I’ve gone without a front derailleur or chain keeper for years without ever 
having a chain drop using a standard crankset that isn’t optimized with fancy 
1x chainrings. I only do road riding, though. 

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

If you have a 42 already, there is little harm in trying it out.  I think 
chain dropping is a real thing, and a wide-narrow ring is one of several 
mitigations to reduce its likelihood.  Wolf tooth makes a 130BCD 42 tooth 
wide narrow ring and I'm sure others do as well.  
https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/products/130-bcd-cyclocross-chainrings?variant=14782015209507

BL in EC

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:29:02 AM UTC-7, Bones wrote:
>
> Ya that’s a good idea too. Oddly enough the crank already has a standard 
> Sugino 42t ring on it. Would that be sufficient? I’ve only ever used it 
> with a single freewheel. I’ve read things in the past about chains jumping 
> on 1x setups... is that even a concern with a road bike though?
>
> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 9:42:32 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> It's becoming more and more commonplace to run a 1x drivetrain.  Your 
>> existing XD2 with a nice narrow-wide ring, intelligently chosen, could be a 
>> really smart setup.  I've had very good success with a 42T ring, and an 
>> 11-28 or 11-32 cassette, but I have hills to speak of.  With really no 
>> hills to speak of, you could go even smaller in the cassette, like 11-26.  
>> If you are never pedalling over 40MPH then you likely don't need higher 
>> than a 42x11.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:20:51 PM UTC-7, Bones wrote:
>>>
>>> I could use some input on what type of crank would work best for me 
>>> here. I will be using the bike as a sporty, zip around the river bike. No 
>>> club rides or racing or anything like that. I live in south Jersey, so no 
>>> hills to speak of, just wind. The wide/lows on my Appaloosa and Clem are 
>>> perfect, and I don't spend much time on the big ring on my Sam's triple. 
>>> I'd like to keep the gearing minimal but functional, and of course it has 
>>> to look handsome on the Roadini. I have an extra RD2 crank from a single 
>>> speed lying around, maybe I can do something with that? I'm not opposed to 
>>> getting something new...
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

2020-03-20 Thread ted

Well it’d be cheep and easy to give it a try and see if it works well for you. 
If your concerned abut chain dropping you could use an fd as a chain guide. 

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[RBW] New Bike Day: The Wait is Finally Over!

2020-03-20 Thread Rocky B

Great looking bike 

I, too, am a big fan of low BB drops.  Riv introduced it to me and it’s one of 
the first dimensions I look at when I look at a bike’s geometry chart.  I love 
the feeling of riding “in” a bike instead of riding “on top” of one (if that 
makes any sense.)

Rocky

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[RBW] Fortunate Timing -- My New MIT Atlantis

2020-03-20 Thread ian m

Looks great, but I gotta see the rohloff equipped simpleone!

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

2020-03-20 Thread Garth



You could use as small a big ring as low a 42 if you want with a 38, 4 
teeth differences are about half gears. Sometimes having overlapping gears 
is favored, sometimes many distinct ones. The ways are endless !  Gear 
charts are helpful too if it matters to you. 


On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 9:40:17 AM UTC-4, Bones wrote:
>
> Thanks for the input. Makes me wonder if I should try to use the Sugino 
> crank after all. The limiting factor is that it’s 130bcd, and as far as I 
> can tell that limits me to a 38t inner. Maybe that’s good enough. Then the 
> question is what to use for a big ring. Is 46t too close? 50t seems maybe 
> too big for me, but maybe not. And I’ve seen those IRD cranks before, they 
> are beautiful indeed. And if I end up looking at a new crank I will 
> strongly consider those. I’m a sucker for aesthetics.
>
> Thanks again,
> Bones
>
> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 7:02:38 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>>
>>
>>If you want to spend a lot other people will show you those.  Myself I 
>> found that there are many nice crank arms for not a whole lot.  I ride a 
>> set of these Origin8 cranks, they are 110 BCD doubles, though often sold as 
>> SS. They can take two rings, just like any other double crank. Shiny silver 
>> or black, both look nice.  If you can fit your gears into a 110 double 
>> platform you will like them, which without much for hills should be just 
>> fine. My road bike that I use this crank on has a 13-32 7sp FW with 36/46 
>> rings and I live amidst some very steep hills and all is well.  There's so 
>> many ways to play with ring combos too. I like doubles and triples, whether 
>> the rings are spaced out or close together, you can always get a good 
>> chainline. I have 24/36/44 rings on my other bike with 14-32 7 cogs and I 
>> love the 44t big ring it's very ride-able across a broad range.  I had not 
>> planned on using the 44t ring, but I had one lying around unused, so 
>> thought I'd try it and it's awesome. I'd use a 44t big ring on my other 
>> bike too when/if the 46 needs replaced.  
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AO7O8M/ref=twister_B00R6R3ZPM?th=1=1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:20:51 AM UTC-4, Bones wrote:
>>>
>>> I could use some input on what type of crank would work best for me 
>>> here. I will be using the bike as a sporty, zip around the river bike. No 
>>> club rides or racing or anything like that. I live in south Jersey, so no 
>>> hills to speak of, just wind. The wide/lows on my Appaloosa and Clem are 
>>> perfect, and I don't spend much time on the big ring on my Sam's triple. 
>>> I'd like to keep the gearing minimal but functional, and of course it has 
>>> to look handsome on the Roadini. I have an extra RD2 crank from a single 
>>> speed lying around, maybe I can do something with that? I'm not opposed to 
>>> getting something new...
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

2020-03-20 Thread Bones

Ya that’s a good idea too. Oddly enough the crank already has a standard 
Sugino 42t ring on it. Would that be sufficient? I’ve only ever used it 
with a single freewheel. I’ve read things in the past about chains jumping 
on 1x setups... is that even a concern with a road bike though?

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 9:42:32 AM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> It's becoming more and more commonplace to run a 1x drivetrain.  Your 
> existing XD2 with a nice narrow-wide ring, intelligently chosen, could be a 
> really smart setup.  I've had very good success with a 42T ring, and an 
> 11-28 or 11-32 cassette, but I have hills to speak of.  With really no 
> hills to speak of, you could go even smaller in the cassette, like 11-26.  
> If you are never pedalling over 40MPH then you likely don't need higher 
> than a 42x11.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:20:51 PM UTC-7, Bones wrote:
>>
>> I could use some input on what type of crank would work best for me here. 
>> I will be using the bike as a sporty, zip around the river bike. No club 
>> rides or racing or anything like that. I live in south Jersey, so no hills 
>> to speak of, just wind. The wide/lows on my Appaloosa and Clem are perfect, 
>> and I don't spend much time on the big ring on my Sam's triple. I'd like to 
>> keep the gearing minimal but functional, and of course it has to look 
>> handsome on the Roadini. I have an extra RD2 crank from a single speed 
>> lying around, maybe I can do something with that? I'm not opposed to 
>> getting something new...
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Fortunate Timing -- My New MIT Atlantis

2020-03-20 Thread Igor

Looks quite nice!

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:17:04 AM UTC-4, Steve Cole wrote:
>
> As we’ve all no doubt discovered, social isolation, plain and simple, is 
> not fun.  Going for long walks or rides is a wonderful antidote.  For me, 
> these rides have been doubly fun on my new MIT Atlantis received just last 
> week. James at Analog Cycles helped we work out the build details and his 
> partner Candice built the bike.  I heartily recommend them.
>
>  
>
> Some background before going over the choices I made.   I’m 70 years 
> old.  I still try to ride 3-4 times each week.  Generally, my rides average 
> around 20 miles in length.  Most of my rides are on pavement but some are 
> on paths, dirt roads, etc.  I wanted a bike that would serve my needs 
> extremely well 90% of the time and would be adequate or better the other 
> 10%.  Finally, I think of this as my last bike.  It may not be, but I 
> approached it as if it were.  
>
>  
>
> I am a long-time aficionado of Rivendell bikes.  I own a Toyo A. Homer 
> Hilsen and a SimpleOne (converted to a Rohloff hub).  My wife rides a Betty 
> Foy.  Assuming my new Atlantis meets my goals, I’ll be passing my other 
> bikes along to others.  To start with, I like the classic Rivendell look of 
> silver components. In addition, my component choices reflect some elements 
> of my other RBW bikes.  Other choices were influenced by James at 
> Analog.  Most will consider this a high-end build.  In the end, since I 
> approached it as my last bike, I tended to avoid making compromises.
>
>  
>
> *Frameset: *MIT Atlantis 55 cm, 700c wheels
>
> My AHH is 59 cm and my SimpleOne is 58 cm.  Not surprisingly, I expected 
> to ride a 59 cm MIT Atlantis.  The geometry of the new longer seat stay/top 
> tube MIT Atlantis is such that the shorter seat tube is right on point for 
> me.  Before I understood this, I bought a 59 cm, used (I love the look with 
> the rainbow second top tube).  Thanks to James, however, I switched to a 
> new 55 cm and the seller of the 59 cm was kind enough to take it back.
>
>  
>
> *Headset*: Cane Creek 110 – EC30
>
> As is also the case with bottom brackets (see below), I dithered with the 
> other classic headsets, Chris King, Phil Wood, Tange, etc.  James steered 
> me (pun intended) to the Cane Creek.  I expect my children will use it well.
>
>  
>
> *Handlebars*:  Nitto Bullmoose
>
> These are the bars (with the incorporated stem) I have installed on my 
> AHH.  I prefer bars for which the grip is like grasping a bar running 
> parallel to me rather than shaking hands with a bar that is running 
> alongside me (I sold my Albatrosses some time ago).  Personal 
> preference.  With a 34-degree sweep, these are just right.  In addition, 
> the extra extension running in front gives me a place to attach my 
> handlebar bag and phone while preserving a second location for my hands 
> close to the stem when I’m climbing.
>
>  
>
> *Brakes:*  Paul Motolites with Paul Love 2.5 Levers
>
> I want brakes with a very firm action – no squishiness.  Shimano brakes 
> have always seemed overly squishy.  With these brakes, I now have Paul 
> brakes on all three bikes, Racers on my AHH, Touring Cantilevers on my SO 
> and these Motolites on my MIT Atlantis.  I swear by all three.
>
>  
>
> *Drivetrain: *Rear* - *Shimano XT RD-M772 Shadow 9-speed; Front – Shimano 
> CX-70;
>
> Shifters: Shimano XT Rapid Fire 3x9; Crankset – 
> Middleburn RS7, 170 mm, 44/32/24;
>
> Cassette – Sunrace M9, 9-speed wide ratio 11T-40T
>
> The choices here reflect my age and conditioning as much as any other 
> components.  First, I wanted a drivetrain that would help me ease my way up 
> some significant hills but also allow me to maintain good speed/cadence on 
> the flats.  I chose the RapidFire shifters, which are also on my AHH, 
> because I simply like precise, easy shifting.  James encouraged me to get 
> the Middleburn cranks noting they are beautiful, extremely strong, 
> English-made.  They are available as a triple and have a replaceable 
> spider.  He was right on all accounts – no regrets.
>
>  
>
> *Bottom Bracket: * SKF 110 mm
>
> Not much to say here.  I wanted a trouble-free, sealed BB.  Everything 
> I’ve read suggested this BB is more than up to the task.
>
>  
>
> *Wheels:*  Rims - Velocity Quill 700c; Spokes – Sapim Race; Front Hub – 
> SONdeluxe Widebody 
>
> Dynamo; Rear Hub – Bitex BX103R; Tires – Rene Herse 
> Antelope Hill EL Tubeless
>
> I always think of Grant Petersen’s admonition about the cheapest and most 
> worthwhile component available is air.  Purchasing the MIT Atlantis was 
> integral to increasing the volume of air available to me.  As the MIT 
> Atlantis 55 cm is a brand-new design, there was no way to know before 
> receiving it how large a tire it would accommodate.  A bit surprised, it 
> not only handles the 55 mm wide Antelope Hill, we were also able to fit the 
> bike with

Re: [RBW] MUSA Pants

2020-03-20 Thread Robert Gardner

My two cents -- they fit exactly like stretchy dickies.

I am 6'2, 220 (36/32 pants) and fairly stocky/broad (played rugby for a
long time) and the larges are just tight enough to not be obviously
'riding' pants. They fit really, really well. So well, that I -- a person
who rarely wears bike-stuff off the bike -- wears them off the bike a lot.
Generally, I wear XLs (XXL in Euro-bike sizing) in things FWIW.

Not sure if that helps or not, but other than a glowing recommendation,
that's what I can tell ya.

- Robert in DC

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 3:46 AM William deRosset 
wrote:

> Dear Dan,
>
> My experience with Rivendell: call and ask. They will steer you as
> straight as anyone can remotely.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Will
> William M deRosset
> Fort Collins CO USA
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[RBW] Re: Fortunate Timing -- My New MIT Atlantis

2020-03-20 Thread Christopher Cote

Fantastic build! Enjoy it in good health!

Chris


On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:17:04 AM UTC-4, Steve Cole wrote:
>
> As we’ve all no doubt discovered, social isolation, plain and simple, is 
> not fun.  Going for long walks or rides is a wonderful antidote.  For me, 
> these rides have been doubly fun on my new MIT Atlantis received just last 
> week. James at Analog Cycles helped we work out the build details and his 
> partner Candice built the bike.  I heartily recommend them.
>
>  
>
> Some background before going over the choices I made.   I’m 70 years 
> old.  I still try to ride 3-4 times each week.  Generally, my rides average 
> around 20 miles in length.  Most of my rides are on pavement but some are 
> on paths, dirt roads, etc.  I wanted a bike that would serve my needs 
> extremely well 90% of the time and would be adequate or better the other 
> 10%.  Finally, I think of this as my last bike.  It may not be, but I 
> approached it as if it were.  
>
>  
>
> I am a long-time aficionado of Rivendell bikes.  I own a Toyo A. Homer 
> Hilsen and a SimpleOne (converted to a Rohloff hub).  My wife rides a Betty 
> Foy.  Assuming my new Atlantis meets my goals, I’ll be passing my other 
> bikes along to others.  To start with, I like the classic Rivendell look of 
> silver components. In addition, my component choices reflect some elements 
> of my other RBW bikes.  Other choices were influenced by James at 
> Analog.  Most will consider this a high-end build.  In the end, since I 
> approached it as my last bike, I tended to avoid making compromises.
>
>  
>
> *Frameset: *MIT Atlantis 55 cm, 700c wheels
>
> My AHH is 59 cm and my SimpleOne is 58 cm.  Not surprisingly, I expected 
> to ride a 59 cm MIT Atlantis.  The geometry of the new longer seat stay/top 
> tube MIT Atlantis is such that the shorter seat tube is right on point for 
> me.  Before I understood this, I bought a 59 cm, used (I love the look with 
> the rainbow second top tube).  Thanks to James, however, I switched to a 
> new 55 cm and the seller of the 59 cm was kind enough to take it back.
>
>  
>
> *Headset*: Cane Creek 110 – EC30
>
> As is also the case with bottom brackets (see below), I dithered with the 
> other classic headsets, Chris King, Phil Wood, Tange, etc.  James steered 
> me (pun intended) to the Cane Creek.  I expect my children will use it well.
>
>  
>
> *Handlebars*:  Nitto Bullmoose
>
> These are the bars (with the incorporated stem) I have installed on my 
> AHH.  I prefer bars for which the grip is like grasping a bar running 
> parallel to me rather than shaking hands with a bar that is running 
> alongside me (I sold my Albatrosses some time ago).  Personal 
> preference.  With a 34-degree sweep, these are just right.  In addition, 
> the extra extension running in front gives me a place to attach my 
> handlebar bag and phone while preserving a second location for my hands 
> close to the stem when I’m climbing.
>
>  
>
> *Brakes:*  Paul Motolites with Paul Love 2.5 Levers
>
> I want brakes with a very firm action – no squishiness.  Shimano brakes 
> have always seemed overly squishy.  With these brakes, I now have Paul 
> brakes on all three bikes, Racers on my AHH, Touring Cantilevers on my SO 
> and these Motolites on my MIT Atlantis.  I swear by all three.
>
>  
>
> *Drivetrain: *Rear* - *Shimano XT RD-M772 Shadow 9-speed; Front – Shimano 
> CX-70;
>
> Shifters: Shimano XT Rapid Fire 3x9; Crankset – 
> Middleburn RS7, 170 mm, 44/32/24;
>
> Cassette – Sunrace M9, 9-speed wide ratio 11T-40T
>
> The choices here reflect my age and conditioning as much as any other 
> components.  First, I wanted a drivetrain that would help me ease my way up 
> some significant hills but also allow me to maintain good speed/cadence on 
> the flats.  I chose the RapidFire shifters, which are also on my AHH, 
> because I simply like precise, easy shifting.  James encouraged me to get 
> the Middleburn cranks noting they are beautiful, extremely strong, 
> English-made.  They are available as a triple and have a replaceable 
> spider.  He was right on all accounts – no regrets.
>
>  
>
> *Bottom Bracket: * SKF 110 mm
>
> Not much to say here.  I wanted a trouble-free, sealed BB.  Everything 
> I’ve read suggested this BB is more than up to the task.
>
>  
>
> *Wheels:*  Rims - Velocity Quill 700c; Spokes – Sapim Race; Front Hub – 
> SONdeluxe Widebody 
>
> Dynamo; Rear Hub – Bitex BX103R; Tires – Rene Herse 
> Antelope Hill EL Tubeless
>
> I always think of Grant Petersen’s admonition about the cheapest and most 
> worthwhile component available is air.  Purchasing the MIT Atlantis was 
> integral to increasing the volume of air available to me.  As the MIT 
> Atlantis 55 cm is a brand-new design, there was no way to know before 
> receiving it how large a tire it would accommodate.  A bit surprised, it 
> not only handles the 55 mm wide Antelope Hill, we were also

Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World

2020-03-20 Thread Curtis McKenzie

Glad you are feeling better and your family is fine.

Curtis
El Cajon, CA

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020, 6:25 AM lambbo  wrote:

> I just tested positive for Coronavirus!
>
> Good news is I'm healthy (after flu-like symptoms that were no fun) and my
> baby daughter and wife (who is a CNM, NP and works at Mount Sinai West),
> are all fine and have not bad symptoms, and in fact we've done a great job
> quarantining, and *could *go out now via CDC guidelines, tho we want to
> be very careful.
>
> So, let it be know, comm
> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 4:33:05 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Yes you posted this already. I'm in California, not Alabama, and I'm not
>> convinced a group ride of any distances from each other will be allowed. I
>> mean obviously it's hard to enforce and you may not get stopped, but it's
>> not in the spirit of what we're being asked to do here.
>
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[RBW] Re: Fortunate Timing -- My New MIT Atlantis

2020-03-20 Thread Steve Cole

The bag is a Gilles Berthoud GB905.  It's attached to the Handlebar with a 
GB Click-Fix Handlebar Mount, which makes it easy to remove and take with 
me when I lock the bike.

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 10:12:46 AM UTC-4, lambbo wrote:
>
> That is an incredible bike, a dream bike really! 
>
> What is that super practical looking (and handsome) handlebar bag?   
>
> Quill rims looks so great.
>
> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:17:04 AM UTC-4, Steve Cole wrote:
>>
>> As we’ve all no doubt discovered, social isolation, plain and simple, is 
>> not fun.  Going for long walks or rides is a wonderful antidote.  For me, 
>> these rides have been doubly fun on my new MIT Atlantis received just last 
>> week. James at Analog Cycles helped we work out the build details and his 
>> partner Candice built the bike.  I heartily recommend them.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Some background before going over the choices I made.   I’m 70 years 
>> old.  I still try to ride 3-4 times each week.  Generally, my rides average 
>> around 20 miles in length.  Most of my rides are on pavement but some are 
>> on paths, dirt roads, etc.  I wanted a bike that would serve my needs 
>> extremely well 90% of the time and would be adequate or better the other 
>> 10%.  Finally, I think of this as my last bike.  It may not be, but I 
>> approached it as if it were.  
>>
>>  
>>
>> I am a long-time aficionado of Rivendell bikes.  I own a Toyo A. Homer 
>> Hilsen and a SimpleOne (converted to a Rohloff hub).  My wife rides a Betty 
>> Foy.  Assuming my new Atlantis meets my goals, I’ll be passing my other 
>> bikes along to others.  To start with, I like the classic Rivendell look of 
>> silver components. In addition, my component choices reflect some elements 
>> of my other RBW bikes.  Other choices were influenced by James at 
>> Analog.  Most will consider this a high-end build.  In the end, since I 
>> approached it as my last bike, I tended to avoid making compromises.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Frameset: *MIT Atlantis 55 cm, 700c wheels
>>
>> My AHH is 59 cm and my SimpleOne is 58 cm.  Not surprisingly, I expected 
>> to ride a 59 cm MIT Atlantis.  The geometry of the new longer seat stay/top 
>> tube MIT Atlantis is such that the shorter seat tube is right on point for 
>> me.  Before I understood this, I bought a 59 cm, used (I love the look with 
>> the rainbow second top tube).  Thanks to James, however, I switched to a 
>> new 55 cm and the seller of the 59 cm was kind enough to take it back.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Headset*: Cane Creek 110 – EC30
>>
>> As is also the case with bottom brackets (see below), I dithered with the 
>> other classic headsets, Chris King, Phil Wood, Tange, etc.  James steered 
>> me (pun intended) to the Cane Creek.  I expect my children will use it well.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Handlebars*:  Nitto Bullmoose
>>
>> These are the bars (with the incorporated stem) I have installed on my 
>> AHH.  I prefer bars for which the grip is like grasping a bar running 
>> parallel to me rather than shaking hands with a bar that is running 
>> alongside me (I sold my Albatrosses some time ago).  Personal 
>> preference.  With a 34-degree sweep, these are just right.  In addition, 
>> the extra extension running in front gives me a place to attach my 
>> handlebar bag and phone while preserving a second location for my hands 
>> close to the stem when I’m climbing.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Brakes:*  Paul Motolites with Paul Love 2.5 Levers
>>
>> I want brakes with a very firm action – no squishiness.  Shimano brakes 
>> have always seemed overly squishy.  With these brakes, I now have Paul 
>> brakes on all three bikes, Racers on my AHH, Touring Cantilevers on my SO 
>> and these Motolites on my MIT Atlantis.  I swear by all three.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Drivetrain: *Rear* - *Shimano XT RD-M772 Shadow 9-speed; Front – 
>> Shimano CX-70;
>>
>> Shifters: Shimano XT Rapid Fire 3x9; Crankset – 
>> Middleburn RS7, 170 mm, 44/32/24;
>>
>> Cassette – Sunrace M9, 9-speed wide ratio 11T-40T
>>
>> The choices here reflect my age and conditioning as much as any other 
>> components.  First, I wanted a drivetrain that would help me ease my way up 
>> some significant hills but also allow me to maintain good speed/cadence on 
>> the flats.  I chose the RapidFire shifters, which are also on my AHH, 
>> because I simply like precise, easy shifting.  James encouraged me to get 
>> the Middleburn cranks noting they are beautiful, extremely strong, 
>> English-made.  They are available as a triple and have a replaceable 
>> spider.  He was right on all accounts – no regrets.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Bottom Bracket: * SKF 110 mm
>>
>> Not much to say here.  I wanted a trouble-free, sealed BB.  Everything 
>> I’ve read suggested this BB is more than up to the task.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Wheels:*  Rims - Velocity Quill 700c; Spokes – Sapim Race; Front Hub – 
>> SONdeluxe Widebody 
>>
>> Dynamo; Rear Hub – Bitex BX103R; Tires – Rene Herse 
>> Antelope

[RBW] Re: Fortunate Timing -- My New MIT Atlantis

That is an incredible bike, a dream bike really! 

What is that super practical looking (and handsome) handlebar bag?   

Quill rims looks so great.

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:17:04 AM UTC-4, Steve Cole wrote:
>
> As we’ve all no doubt discovered, social isolation, plain and simple, is 
> not fun.  Going for long walks or rides is a wonderful antidote.  For me, 
> these rides have been doubly fun on my new MIT Atlantis received just last 
> week. James at Analog Cycles helped we work out the build details and his 
> partner Candice built the bike.  I heartily recommend them.
>
>  
>
> Some background before going over the choices I made.   I’m 70 years 
> old.  I still try to ride 3-4 times each week.  Generally, my rides average 
> around 20 miles in length.  Most of my rides are on pavement but some are 
> on paths, dirt roads, etc.  I wanted a bike that would serve my needs 
> extremely well 90% of the time and would be adequate or better the other 
> 10%.  Finally, I think of this as my last bike.  It may not be, but I 
> approached it as if it were.  
>
>  
>
> I am a long-time aficionado of Rivendell bikes.  I own a Toyo A. Homer 
> Hilsen and a SimpleOne (converted to a Rohloff hub).  My wife rides a Betty 
> Foy.  Assuming my new Atlantis meets my goals, I’ll be passing my other 
> bikes along to others.  To start with, I like the classic Rivendell look of 
> silver components. In addition, my component choices reflect some elements 
> of my other RBW bikes.  Other choices were influenced by James at 
> Analog.  Most will consider this a high-end build.  In the end, since I 
> approached it as my last bike, I tended to avoid making compromises.
>
>  
>
> *Frameset: *MIT Atlantis 55 cm, 700c wheels
>
> My AHH is 59 cm and my SimpleOne is 58 cm.  Not surprisingly, I expected 
> to ride a 59 cm MIT Atlantis.  The geometry of the new longer seat stay/top 
> tube MIT Atlantis is such that the shorter seat tube is right on point for 
> me.  Before I understood this, I bought a 59 cm, used (I love the look with 
> the rainbow second top tube).  Thanks to James, however, I switched to a 
> new 55 cm and the seller of the 59 cm was kind enough to take it back.
>
>  
>
> *Headset*: Cane Creek 110 – EC30
>
> As is also the case with bottom brackets (see below), I dithered with the 
> other classic headsets, Chris King, Phil Wood, Tange, etc.  James steered 
> me (pun intended) to the Cane Creek.  I expect my children will use it well.
>
>  
>
> *Handlebars*:  Nitto Bullmoose
>
> These are the bars (with the incorporated stem) I have installed on my 
> AHH.  I prefer bars for which the grip is like grasping a bar running 
> parallel to me rather than shaking hands with a bar that is running 
> alongside me (I sold my Albatrosses some time ago).  Personal 
> preference.  With a 34-degree sweep, these are just right.  In addition, 
> the extra extension running in front gives me a place to attach my 
> handlebar bag and phone while preserving a second location for my hands 
> close to the stem when I’m climbing.
>
>  
>
> *Brakes:*  Paul Motolites with Paul Love 2.5 Levers
>
> I want brakes with a very firm action – no squishiness.  Shimano brakes 
> have always seemed overly squishy.  With these brakes, I now have Paul 
> brakes on all three bikes, Racers on my AHH, Touring Cantilevers on my SO 
> and these Motolites on my MIT Atlantis.  I swear by all three.
>
>  
>
> *Drivetrain: *Rear* - *Shimano XT RD-M772 Shadow 9-speed; Front – Shimano 
> CX-70;
>
> Shifters: Shimano XT Rapid Fire 3x9; Crankset – 
> Middleburn RS7, 170 mm, 44/32/24;
>
> Cassette – Sunrace M9, 9-speed wide ratio 11T-40T
>
> The choices here reflect my age and conditioning as much as any other 
> components.  First, I wanted a drivetrain that would help me ease my way up 
> some significant hills but also allow me to maintain good speed/cadence on 
> the flats.  I chose the RapidFire shifters, which are also on my AHH, 
> because I simply like precise, easy shifting.  James encouraged me to get 
> the Middleburn cranks noting they are beautiful, extremely strong, 
> English-made.  They are available as a triple and have a replaceable 
> spider.  He was right on all accounts – no regrets.
>
>  
>
> *Bottom Bracket: * SKF 110 mm
>
> Not much to say here.  I wanted a trouble-free, sealed BB.  Everything 
> I’ve read suggested this BB is more than up to the task.
>
>  
>
> *Wheels:*  Rims - Velocity Quill 700c; Spokes – Sapim Race; Front Hub – 
> SONdeluxe Widebody 
>
> Dynamo; Rear Hub – Bitex BX103R; Tires – Rene Herse 
> Antelope Hill EL Tubeless
>
> I always think of Grant Petersen’s admonition about the cheapest and most 
> worthwhile component available is air.  Purchasing the MIT Atlantis was 
> integral to increasing the volume of air available to me.  As the MIT 
> Atlantis 55 cm is a brand-new design, there was no way to know before 
> receiving it how large a tire it would

Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World

Best wishes for a speedy and complete recovery. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 6:25:07 AM UTC-7, lambbo wrote:
>
> I just tested positive for Coronavirus!  
>
> Good news is I'm healthy (after flu-like symptoms that were no fun) and my 
> baby daughter and wife (who is a CNM, NP and works at Mount Sinai West), 
> are all fine and have not bad symptoms, and in fact we've done a great job 
> quarantining, and *could *go out now via CDC guidelines, tho we want to 
> be very careful. 
>
> So, let it be know, comm 
> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 4:33:05 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Yes you posted this already. I'm in California, not Alabama, and I'm not 
>> convinced a group ride of any distances from each other will be allowed. I 
>> mean obviously it's hard to enforce and you may not get stopped, but it's 
>> not in the spirit of what we're being asked to do here. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day: The Wait is Finally Over!

2020-03-20 Thread E. Ricky Creek

I love that you used a Pletscher rack. I have one on  my Atlantis and my 
wife has one on her Appaloosa. I always pick them up at flea markets if 
they are under $5. They are almost always missing hardware, but there is a 
way to mount them using the leftover P-clamps that come with Nitto racks. 
  Congrats and engoy! 

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:34:00 PM UTC-5, Nathan Mattia wrote:
>
> Drove 5 hours back from our spring break in Tennessee today with my 
> family.  On the outside I was all appropriate business:  “Wash your hands 
> in the bathrooms.”  “Use these wipes to open the gas station doors.”  “Stop 
> touching your brother’s face!” I even managed to carry on meaningful and 
> necessary discussions with my wife about how we were going to set up the 
> house to work from home while dealing with our 2 boys.  I am proud I held 
> onto this responsible veneer when, on the inside, all I could do was think 
> about how I was going to leave the house the MOMENT we were done unpacking 
> and go get my Sam Hillborne.  
>
> And here it is in *almost* all its glory.  Got to ride it for about a mile 
> before rain and dinner interfered.  
> First impressions:  
> 1.  It’s the most comfortable bike I’ve ever saddled up.
> 2.  It’s the first bike I’ve had that just FIT.  I’m not trying to 
> constantly scoot back in the saddle.
> 3.  The Low Bottom Bracket thing is for real, y’all.  Not sure I can go 
> back.
> 4.  I thought my ‘83 Specialized Expedition won the JD Power and 
> Associates  Hallmark of Cadillac Stability Award, (and maybe it does when 
> fully loaded) but this Sammy is SMOOTH.
>  
> *still to be added are a water bottle holder a Medium Wald Basket (on the 
> Pletscher in the rear?), a small Olive Trunk Sack and an extra-small Olive 
> SaddleSack.  
> BY THE WAY, my Sackville are all in Olive and, as you can see here, I’ve 
> got a blue/orange motif going.  Anybody interested in trading me some Royal 
> Blue Sackville items for my Olive?
>
> [image: 12B91102-4C3B-4656-A5DC-B4A87F1AB886.jpeg]
>
> [image: 929A7932-60A4-4E76-9A0C-1478FB780548.jpeg]
>
> [image: ED53012A-8C10-49CC-9CE3-671B64C9A2D5.jpeg]
>
> [image: 3F7D70F3-383A-478F-AD81-75BF1394307E.jpeg]
>
> [image: 6CF43839-FE3C-495A-88EC-F765D38ADB9A.jpeg]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Real width of Schwalbe Big Ben tires and the effect with fenders.

2020-03-20 Thread Marc Irwin

I use Big Ben's on my Hunq and I doubt you will have to change or re 
position
 the fenders.  Depending on the fenders, you might have to adjust the stays.

Marc

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 8:52:35 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>
> Last week, I rode Leah's (Bicycle Belle Ding Ding) Clem L, which was a 
> lovely ride--limo like, to quote a member here.  She told me she had 
> changed the Kenda tires for Schwalbe Big Ben tires and it improved the 
> already great ride.
>
> I have a 2016 Joe Appaloosa with the the stock Kenda tires on it.  The 
> width is marked on the tire:  1.75".  I'm thinking of changing my tires to 
> the same Big Bens as Leah has.  
> https://www.rivbike.com/collections/tires/products/schwalbe-big-ben-wire-raceguard-performance-line-hs439-700c-x-50-50-622-28x2-00-10129?variant=12239848210543
>  
> , which are on Riv's site as this:  650B x 48 (50-584, 27.5x2.00) RaceGuard 
> Performance line 10138.
>
> Does anyone know the actual width?  I'm OK with changing tires, but would 
> this mean I'd need to get my fenders re-aligned? The fenders look pretty 
> big to me, so I don't think I'd need wider ones if the tire is wider (I 
> hope it's not).   Luckily, I live in a city with lots of bike shops (let's 
> hope their businesses survive the Covid-19 shutdown) and a mechanic who 
> knows Rivs and can do fenders well.
>
> Thanks,
> Roberta
>

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

It's becoming more and more commonplace to run a 1x drivetrain.  Your 
existing XD2 with a nice narrow-wide ring, intelligently chosen, could be a 
really smart setup.  I've had very good success with a 42T ring, and an 
11-28 or 11-32 cassette, but I have hills to speak of.  With really no 
hills to speak of, you could go even smaller in the cassette, like 11-26.  
If you are never pedalling over 40MPH then you likely don't need higher 
than a 42x11.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 10:20:51 PM UTC-7, Bones wrote:
>
> I could use some input on what type of crank would work best for me here. 
> I will be using the bike as a sporty, zip around the river bike. No club 
> rides or racing or anything like that. I live in south Jersey, so no hills 
> to speak of, just wind. The wide/lows on my Appaloosa and Clem are perfect, 
> and I don't spend much time on the big ring on my Sam's triple. I'd like to 
> keep the gearing minimal but functional, and of course it has to look 
> handsome on the Roadini. I have an extra RD2 crank from a single speed 
> lying around, maybe I can do something with that? I'm not opposed to 
> getting something new...
>

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

2020-03-20 Thread Bones

Thanks for the input. Makes me wonder if I should try to use the Sugino 
crank after all. The limiting factor is that it’s 130bcd, and as far as I 
can tell that limits me to a 38t inner. Maybe that’s good enough. Then the 
question is what to use for a big ring. Is 46t too close? 50t seems maybe 
too big for me, but maybe not. And I’ve seen those IRD cranks before, they 
are beautiful indeed. And if I end up looking at a new crank I will 
strongly consider those. I’m a sucker for aesthetics.

Thanks again,
Bones

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 7:02:38 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>
>
>If you want to spend a lot other people will show you those.  Myself I 
> found that there are many nice crank arms for not a whole lot.  I ride a 
> set of these Origin8 cranks, they are 110 BCD doubles, though often sold as 
> SS. They can take two rings, just like any other double crank. Shiny silver 
> or black, both look nice.  If you can fit your gears into a 110 double 
> platform you will like them, which without much for hills should be just 
> fine. My road bike that I use this crank on has a 13-32 7sp FW with 36/46 
> rings and I live amidst some very steep hills and all is well.  There's so 
> many ways to play with ring combos too. I like doubles and triples, whether 
> the rings are spaced out or close together, you can always get a good 
> chainline. I have 24/36/44 rings on my other bike with 14-32 7 cogs and I 
> love the 44t big ring it's very ride-able across a broad range.  I had not 
> planned on using the 44t ring, but I had one lying around unused, so 
> thought I'd try it and it's awesome. I'd use a 44t big ring on my other 
> bike too when/if the 46 needs replaced.  
>
>
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AO7O8M/ref=twister_B00R6R3ZPM?th=1=1
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:20:51 AM UTC-4, Bones wrote:
>>
>> I could use some input on what type of crank would work best for me here. 
>> I will be using the bike as a sporty, zip around the river bike. No club 
>> rides or racing or anything like that. I live in south Jersey, so no hills 
>> to speak of, just wind. The wide/lows on my Appaloosa and Clem are perfect, 
>> and I don't spend much time on the big ring on my Sam's triple. I'd like to 
>> keep the gearing minimal but functional, and of course it has to look 
>> handsome on the Roadini. I have an extra RD2 crank from a single speed 
>> lying around, maybe I can do something with that? I'm not opposed to 
>> getting something new...
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day: The Wait is Finally Over!

Here’s the rundown, as best as I remember it while typing this fro bed:

-This is an MIT 51cm Samuel Hillborne, made for Caliper brakes.

-brakes are the Riv caliper Tektros

-Shimano Tiagra brake levers.

-shifters are some Shimano thumbies, rigged up by Rich at Kenton Cycle 
Repair, in Portland.

-Deore XT derailleurs.  

-13cm Nitto Tallux Stem

-Albatross bars w/ cheap cork grips from Amazon b/c Riv was out, and 
Newbaum’s tape.

-Mark’s Rack

-Old Pletscher Rear rack.

-Riv Standard Sugino 2x Crank

-A23 Rims, Dynamo front hub 36 spoke, Deore Rear hub 36 spoke.  The Swiss 
double-butted spokes.  Wheels built by Cursed Bikes here in the StL.

-Tires are 42mm Pari-motos 

-8-Speed Cassette

-SKS pedals

-B17 Saddle, nicely broken in by an unknown previous owner.  Came with my 
old RB-T

-Blue Cable Housings.

-Busch & Muller IQ-X light

*Not Pictured—but soon—* Wald Medium Basket


On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 8:02:13 AM UTC-5, DHans wrote:
>
> Congrats on the new bike..it's a beauty. Grips look new and the saddle 
> just worn enough to be comfortable. What wheel size does it have?
> Doug
>
> On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 11:34:00 PM UTC-4, Nathan Mattia wrote:
>>
>> Drove 5 hours back from our spring break in Tennessee today with my 
>> family.  On the outside I was all appropriate business:  “Wash your hands 
>> in the bathrooms.”  “Use these wipes to open the gas station doors.”  “Stop 
>> touching your brother’s face!” I even managed to carry on meaningful and 
>> necessary discussions with my wife about how we were going to set up the 
>> house to work from home while dealing with our 2 boys.  I am proud I held 
>> onto this responsible veneer when, on the inside, all I could do was think 
>> about how I was going to leave the house the MOMENT we were done unpacking 
>> and go get my Sam Hillborne.  
>>
>> And here it is in *almost* all its glory.  Got to ride it for about a 
>> mile before rain and dinner interfered.  
>> First impressions:  
>> 1.  It’s the most comfortable bike I’ve ever saddled up.
>> 2.  It’s the first bike I’ve had that just FIT.  I’m not trying to 
>> constantly scoot back in the saddle.
>> 3.  The Low Bottom Bracket thing is for real, y’all.  Not sure I can go 
>> back.
>> 4.  I thought my ‘83 Specialized Expedition won the JD Power and 
>> Associates  Hallmark of Cadillac Stability Award, (and maybe it does when 
>> fully loaded) but this Sammy is SMOOTH.
>>  
>> *still to be added are a water bottle holder a Medium Wald Basket (on the 
>> Pletscher in the rear?), a small Olive Trunk Sack and an extra-small Olive 
>> SaddleSack.  
>> BY THE WAY, my Sackville are all in Olive and, as you can see here, I’ve 
>> got a blue/orange motif going.  Anybody interested in trading me some Royal 
>> Blue Sackville items for my Olive?
>>
>> [image: 12B91102-4C3B-4656-A5DC-B4A87F1AB886.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: 929A7932-60A4-4E76-9A0C-1478FB780548.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: ED53012A-8C10-49CC-9CE3-671B64C9A2D5.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: 3F7D70F3-383A-478F-AD81-75BF1394307E.jpeg]
>>
>> [image: 6CF43839-FE3C-495A-88EC-F765D38ADB9A.jpeg]
>>
>>

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Re: Re: [RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World

I just tested positive for Coronavirus!  

Good news is I'm healthy (after flu-like symptoms that were no fun) and my 
baby daughter and wife (who is a CNM, NP and works at Mount Sinai West), 
are all fine and have not bad symptoms, and in fact we've done a great job 
quarantining, and *could *go out now via CDC guidelines, tho we want to be 
very careful. 

So, let it be know, comm 
On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 4:33:05 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Yes you posted this already. I'm in California, not Alabama, and I'm not 
> convinced a group ride of any distances from each other will be allowed. I 
> mean obviously it's hard to enforce and you may not get stopped, but it's 
> not in the spirit of what we're being asked to do here. 

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

I put the IRD double on my Roadini, and it's 1, handsome as heck, and 2, 
very functional. 

https://www.interlocracing.com/shop/product/ird-crankset-defiant-compact-double-2801?search=crank

Highly recommended. 

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:20:51 AM UTC-4, Bones wrote:
>
> I could use some input on what type of crank would work best for me here. 
> I will be using the bike as a sporty, zip around the river bike. No club 
> rides or racing or anything like that. I live in south Jersey, so no hills 
> to speak of, just wind. The wide/lows on my Appaloosa and Clem are perfect, 
> and I don't spend much time on the big ring on my Sam's triple. I'd like to 
> keep the gearing minimal but functional, and of course it has to look 
> handsome on the Roadini. I have an extra RD2 crank from a single speed 
> lying around, maybe I can do something with that? I'm not opposed to 
> getting something new...
>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day: The Wait is Finally Over!

2020-03-20 Thread DHans

Congrats on the new bike..it's a beauty. Grips look new and the saddle just 
worn enough to be comfortable. What wheel size does it have?
Doug

On Thursday, March 19, 2020 at 11:34:00 PM UTC-4, Nathan Mattia wrote:
>
> Drove 5 hours back from our spring break in Tennessee today with my 
> family.  On the outside I was all appropriate business:  “Wash your hands 
> in the bathrooms.”  “Use these wipes to open the gas station doors.”  “Stop 
> touching your brother’s face!” I even managed to carry on meaningful and 
> necessary discussions with my wife about how we were going to set up the 
> house to work from home while dealing with our 2 boys.  I am proud I held 
> onto this responsible veneer when, on the inside, all I could do was think 
> about how I was going to leave the house the MOMENT we were done unpacking 
> and go get my Sam Hillborne.  
>
> And here it is in *almost* all its glory.  Got to ride it for about a mile 
> before rain and dinner interfered.  
> First impressions:  
> 1.  It’s the most comfortable bike I’ve ever saddled up.
> 2.  It’s the first bike I’ve had that just FIT.  I’m not trying to 
> constantly scoot back in the saddle.
> 3.  The Low Bottom Bracket thing is for real, y’all.  Not sure I can go 
> back.
> 4.  I thought my ‘83 Specialized Expedition won the JD Power and 
> Associates  Hallmark of Cadillac Stability Award, (and maybe it does when 
> fully loaded) but this Sammy is SMOOTH.
>  
> *still to be added are a water bottle holder a Medium Wald Basket (on the 
> Pletscher in the rear?), a small Olive Trunk Sack and an extra-small Olive 
> SaddleSack.  
> BY THE WAY, my Sackville are all in Olive and, as you can see here, I’ve 
> got a blue/orange motif going.  Anybody interested in trading me some Royal 
> Blue Sackville items for my Olive?
>
> [image: 12B91102-4C3B-4656-A5DC-B4A87F1AB886.jpeg]
>
> [image: 929A7932-60A4-4E76-9A0C-1478FB780548.jpeg]
>
> [image: ED53012A-8C10-49CC-9CE3-671B64C9A2D5.jpeg]
>
> [image: 3F7D70F3-383A-478F-AD81-75BF1394307E.jpeg]
>
> [image: 6CF43839-FE3C-495A-88EC-F765D38ADB9A.jpeg]
>
>

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[RBW] New Bike Day: The Wait is Finally Over!

2020-03-20 Thread 'Je Mar' via RBW Owners Bunch

That is beautiful. Great choices, just great. Enjoy!

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Crankset for Roadini Preorder

2020-03-20 Thread Garth

   If you want to spend a lot other people will show you those.  Myself I 
found that there are many nice crank arms for not a whole lot.  I ride a 
set of these Origin8 cranks, they are 110 BCD doubles, though often sold as 
SS. They can take two rings, just like any other double crank. Shiny silver 
or black, both look nice.  If you can fit your gears into a 110 double 
platform you will like them, which without much for hills should be just 
fine. My road bike that I use this crank on has a 13-32 7sp FW with 36/46 
rings and I live amidst some very steep hills and all is well.  There's so 
many ways to play with ring combos too. I like doubles and triples, whether 
the rings are spaced out or close together, you can always get a good 
chainline. I have 24/36/44 rings on my other bike with 14-32 7 cogs and I 
love the 44t big ring it's very ride-able across a broad range.  I had not 
planned on using the 44t ring, but I had one lying around unused, so 
thought I'd try it and it's awesome. I'd use a 44t big ring on my other 
bike too when/if the 46 needs replaced.  

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000AO7O8M/ref=twister_B00R6R3ZPM?th=1=1

On Friday, March 20, 2020 at 1:20:51 AM UTC-4, Bones wrote:
>
> I could use some input on what type of crank would work best for me here. 
> I will be using the bike as a sporty, zip around the river bike. No club 
> rides or racing or anything like that. I live in south Jersey, so no hills 
> to speak of, just wind. The wide/lows on my Appaloosa and Clem are perfect, 
> and I don't spend much time on the big ring on my Sam's triple. I'd like to 
> keep the gearing minimal but functional, and of course it has to look 
> handsome on the Roadini. I have an extra RD2 crank from a single speed 
> lying around, maybe I can do something with that? I'm not opposed to 
> getting something new...
>

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RE: Re: [RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World

Yes you posted this already. I'm in California, not Alabama, and I'm not 
convinced a group ride of any distances from each other will be allowed. I mean 
obviously it's hard to enforce and you may not get stopped, but it's not in the 
spirit of what we're being asked to do here. 

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RE: Re: [RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World

2020-03-20 Thread Bruce Herbitter

Alabama executive order limits gatherings INSIDE closed spaces at 25 and recommends no more than 10. On our club ride tonight, we had 7 riders, all properly spaced, no touching, spitting, coughing, etc, it was very enjoyable. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Joe BernardSent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 10:11 PMTo: RBW Owners BunchSubject: Re: [RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World In California - we were already under the Shelter In Place this week in Marin County - it means you can walk and bike alone, and drive to get groceries, gas, takeout food. I've been out there and there's a few cars and bikes around, but it's unusually quiet. What you don't want to do is get caught in packs of people, they'll give you a ticket for that. Now for the super bad part (like the dystopia I just described wasn't enough): Gov. Newsom's letter to the president says the state projects 56% of residents will have the virus in 8 weeks. That's 25.5 Million people. If you assume a mortality rate of 2%, which right now is a low estimate, that's 610k. In one state. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/6UcP-pX6JZ4/unsubscribe.To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/41c329c8-7acb-4ed8-8c2e-be1f22c4e9b0%40googlegroups.com.

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[RBW] MUSA Pants

2020-03-20 Thread William deRosset

Dear Dan,

My experience with Rivendell: call and ask. They will steer you as straight as 
anyone can remotely.

Best Regards,

Will
William M deRosset
Fort Collins CO USA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World

Daniel, it's good to hear that's the "if we did nothing" number, although I 
suspect the eventual "we did something" number will still be harrowing. 

All, I have no interest in debates about homeopathy, I just know this: Right 
now we have a shockingly contagious virus that's killing people, including 
young people it wasn't supposed to kill. We need to try to stop the spread 
while developing a vaccine plus herd immunity. Until we get there our lives are 
going to be bombarded with this damn thing and it's going to take our economy 
with it. We're just going to have to fight it. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World

Patrick (Moore, not Deacon),

I agree with your assessment that “if there is anything unscientific, it's
blanket, unanalyzed statements about what is and what isn't science.” I
assume that you are referring to what I said about homeopathy given that
you make specific mention of it in your post. As I mentioned, the
fundamental idea of homeopathy is that a substance becomes stronger as it
becomes more dilute — often to a degree in which not even a single molecule
of that substance exists in the final preparation of the “medicine”. That
idea, to me, is implausible given what I think that I know about the
natural world. Lots of ideas that seem implausible turn out to be true, so
it is reasonable to require evidence to support my assertion that
homeopathy works for nothing other than placebo. I have no intention of
writing a treatise on the science of homeopathy to convince you, as many
others have already done so. There have been numerous clinical trials and
meta-analyses that examine the clinical effect of homeopathy which conclude
that there is no evidence that homeopathy is effective. I will refer you to
the report published by the National Health and Medical Research Council of
Australia to peruse at your leisure (linked below). I hope that nothing
that I said was in any way offensive. My re-reading of my post does not
sound like it to me, but I am open to the idea that I am not the best judge
of what is or is not offensive to others. In the absence of any rigorous
positive data on the efficacy of homeopathy, though, I was compelled to
offer a dissenting position on the subject on a public forum. You are
correct that I should have included at least one reference in my initial
post.

https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/sites/default/files/images/nhmrc-information-paper-effectiveness-of-homeopathy.pdf

Eric G@rs

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Re: [RBW] Re: Group Riding / New Covid-19 World