Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Roberta]

(Revised from original and now deleted post. I had mistyped his wife’s 
name. My apologies. )

Oh, that's nice!  I bought my AHHilsen, also pre-loved,  1 3/4 years ago as 
my second bike to keep at my office.  As I rode the AHH, I loved it more 
and more.My mermaid Platy is around the corner.  So, new bikes all 
around for you, Maia and me.  You will be the smartest biking couple on the 
trails near home.

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 11:18:35 AM UTC-4 will...@yahoo.com wrote:

> On its way to me in California!
>
> W
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 30, 2021, at 7:55 AM, Cory Hughes  wrote:
>
> That Sam has a real artsy fingerprint-on-the-lens glow, oh and it is a 
> great build! Seems like a very fair price.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 24, 2021 at 12:11:52 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Sam Hillborne
>> L (cm not specified) 
>> $900 
>> Indianapolis, IN 
>>
>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/plainfield-rivendell-samuel-hillborne/7311968011.html
>>
>> [image: 0_kiAv20g29Z0z_0t20t2_1200x900.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Rivendell Readers #00-10

[George Schick]

I have RR's 3, 4, and 10 in paper form.  Otherwise, I have 1, 2 and 5-9 in 
.pdf files.  That's it.  You are welcome to all of the paper copies and I 
can email you the .pdf's of the others if you want.


On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 10:21:29 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all — As some of you may recall I've been collecting printed matter 
> from Rivendell: Readers, catalogs and flyers from the past. 
>
> I've got a ton of stuff but I'm missing the first run of readers, from 
> issue zero through number 10. Is there anyone willing to part with their 
> run? If so, please let me know! 
>
> Thanks,
> Eric 
>

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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Matthew Williams]

Bridgestone single-speed prototype
52cm
$2000
Danville/San Ramon, CA

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/danville-prototype-bridgestone-single/7316839755.html

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[RBW] Converting 650b Hilsen to Rene Herse 42/26 cranks

[KenP]

Hi Doug,
My Appaloosa needed a much longer bottom bracket.
RH shipped me a 121 & LBS had me return the BB because it needed to be 
even longer.  The RH crank has a different feel because of the Q factor.  
It puts the legs closer together.  It weighs about the same.  Advantages 
that you customize it with the rings you want, a longer/shorter crank arm, 
finish color, etc.  The rings have a different bolt pattern than the XD2. I 
switched front derailleur  and  I switched to a RH crank from XD2 and am 
satisfied.  I had been having trouble with the XD2 having the chain drop 
between the rings.  Riv's own new crank might be nice as well if they have 
them available.
Ken
On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 3:53:47 PM UTC-4 Doug Williams wrote:

> I have a 58cm 650b A. Homer Hilsen that I purchased from Riv in 2014. I 
> have been loving it ever since! It has the Sugino Triple Crank 46-36-24 and 
> I run it all friction shifting with bar end silvers, 8 speed with a 11-32 
> cassette. The front derailer is Shimano Claris Triple. The bottom bracket 
> is  bbc110.
>
> So...I'm getting older and I notice I don't use the 46 ring much, at least 
> not with the higher gears in the back. I am definitely an "UnRacer" anyway. 
> I am thinking of getting the Rene Herse double cranks with 42-26 rings. If 
> I go with the 8 speed megarange 11-34 cassette in the back, I would give up 
> almost nothing in the lower gears and lose just some high gears that I 
> rarely use anyway. So two questions:
>
> 1. Is my bottom bracket compatible with the Rene Herse cranks? I think so, 
> but I'm not sure. Would now be a good time to replace it anyway?
>
> 2. Should I just keep my Claris triple FD and crank in the limit screw or 
> go with something like the Shimano CX70 or some other double FD that works 
> well with compact 42-26 rings?
>
> Any other comments or suggestions would be welcome.
>
> Doug
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: First 40+ miles...

[R Shannon]

Hi Robert:

My apologies - not trying to turn this post about your two terrific new
bikes into a thread about shifters! Good to know about the ratcheting feel
on the Silver 2s. Thanks!

Andy, given the frame size you require I can see why bar ends would be
optimal for you. I'm nowhere close to you in height so I can go back to the
future shifting from the DT or install the excellent shifting Shimano
bar-enders.

Best,
Rich in ATL




On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 6:10 PM Robert Dowtin 
wrote:

> With that said, I should have pointed out the 'ratcheting' feel is pretty
> great. I like the 'feel' of the pull better than the dura ace but I loved
> my dura ace shifters on my Crust's bartends. So... 路‍♀️
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2021, 16:13 R Shannon  wrote:
>
>> Robert,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback on the shifters. “Which bike am I going to take.”
>> Good problem to have!
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 3, 2021, at 4:35 PM, Robert Dowtin 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Thanks so much for all the kind words! I promise I will attempt to
>> provide more entertaining reports and pictures in the near future.
>>
>> Rich: I am not positive I love the silver 2s on the DT. I am not so sure
>> I would prefer them on the barends however... I need to give them lots of
>> time before I allow myself to develop a real opinion.
>>
>> I really do have a hard time getting work done around here now. I find
>> myself spending a lot of time thinking about when I can get out again for a
>> ride and which bike I am going to take.
>> Update: I think I may have fixed the shifting by going back to the
>> Suntour Cyclone RD w/ an 11-28 cassette, instead of the 11-32. Everything
>> seems to be shifting quite nice with that and a vintage XT FD.
>>
>> Pic: Yesterday afternoon top of Mt. Gaylor
>> 
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 1993 62cm Bridgestone RB-1 $1000

[RichS]

Great looking bike and I like your use of vinyl albums for the 
background:-) Good luck with the sale.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 11:30:18 PM UTC-4 exliontamer wrote:

> Hey all. Looking for a local-ish sale on this. The build is pretty Riv'd 
> out. Everything in the picture is included outside of the bottle cages and 
> Brooks. I'll throw in a Selle Italia Titanium Flite if you like. Fresh & 
> lightly shellaced bar tape. Here's a list of parts I think are of note.
> *Velocity Synergy wheel set(Suntour XC 9000 fh/Shimano Ultegra rh) w/wide 
> range 8 speed cassette
> *New-ish Rivendell Roly Poly front and Ruffy Tuffy back tires
> *Shimano Claris rd/Shimano 600 tricolor fd
> *Shimano 8 speed bar ends dialed in perfectly for indexing but switchable 
> to friction
> *44cm Nitto Mark's Bar/Shimano BR-4000 levers/Nitto Technomic Tallux Stem
> *Sugino Compact Double Crankset w/MKS Lambda pedals
> *Shimano 600 Tricolor Brakes with a 2 sets of NOS pads
> It's easily the best feeling fast bike I've ever owned but it's time to 
> let it go. $1000 even.
>
> I'm happy to work out shipping so long as the buyer is willing to cover 
> all costs. I'll post some more pics of it in the sun tomorrow. Thanks
>
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Re: [RBW] bolt size on Nitto 32f mini front rack

[RichS]

Drew,

Save yourself some stress and either sell or trade the 32f for a Mark's 
rack with diving board. 

Best,
Rich in ATL
On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 11:47:40 PM UTC-4 Drw wrote:

> Yeah, its on a disc fork. I assume the hole is for a light or for the more 
> normal mark’s rack style fork crown bracket thing. 
>
> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 8:37:40 PM UTC-7 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> If you don’t use a daruma for the front fender, having threads on the 
>> back side of the fork crown is perfect for a bolt through a fender bracket.
>>
>> Or, getting a little “old school,” you could mount a tire sweeper back 
>> there.
>>
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>>
>> On May 3, 2021, at 8:15 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
>> wrote:
>>
>> That's certainly the case, but why? The only thing I can think that'd be 
>> good for is a light mount, and two holes is as better for a light mount as 
>> it is for everything else I can imagine, so I'm left wondering. 
>> -Kai
>> A note for Drew, in case you do decide to drill that out, best to use a 
>> centering punch that fits inside the threads so you can start with a 
>> smaller drill bit and go bigger until you hit that sweet spot where you're 
>> clearing out the threads up front and making the final pass out the back 
>> with the rack then sliding through effortlessly. With oil of course, and a 
>> wee bit of abandon.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 10:58:23 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>
>>> A fork crown intended for use on a fork with brazed-on brake mounts 
>>> (cantis or centerpulls) might be made differently, since the hole in the 
>>> crown doesn’t need to accommodate a through bolt.
>>>
>>> --Eric Norris
>>> campyo...@me.com
>>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy   
>>>
>>> On May 3, 2021, at 7:37 PM, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> ide note/ask, why do some crowns come with a threaded hole on one side?
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Readers #00-10

[Matthew Williams]

Aw shucks, sorry Eric.



On May 4, 2021, at 10:29 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:

> Thanks, Matthew, but none of these are the issues I'm looking for. 
> 
> On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 12:33:14 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/384138274440
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/353481358770
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 4, 2021, at 8:21 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all — As some of you may recall I've been collecting printed matter from 
>> Rivendell: Readers, catalogs and flyers from the past. 
>> 
>> I've got a ton of stuff but I'm missing the first run of readers, from issue 
>> zero through number 10. Is there anyone willing to part with their run? If 
>> so, please let me know! 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Eric 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Readers #00-10

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Matthew, but none of these are the issues I'm looking for. 

On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 12:33:14 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> https://www.ebay.com/itm/384138274440
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/353481358770
>
>
>
>
> On May 4, 2021, at 8:21 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Hi all — As some of you may recall I've been collecting printed matter 
> from Rivendell: Readers, catalogs and flyers from the past. 
>
> I've got a ton of stuff but I'm missing the first run of readers, from 
> issue zero through number 10. Is there anyone willing to part with their 
> run? If so, please let me know! 
>
> Thanks,
> Eric 
>
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[RBW] Re: For Sale. Two rarities: CX70 brakes and R14 rack

[Bill Lindsay]

Rack claimed.  

Brakes still available.

Bill

On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 9:44:46 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> While rummaging through my inventory I found two things that are long gone 
> and essentially ungettable at any price.  
>
> Shimano CX70 Cantilever brakes.  I have an extra set that I can live 
> without.  Lightly used.  You'll get both calipers (one whole bike's worth), 
> both link wires.  All the spacers and bolts to work with a wide array of 
> post spacing and rim width.  I'll provide them with stock Shimano inserts 
> or salmon koolstops.  $100 shipped
>
> Nitto R-14 rack.  This is the rear rack with the tombstone that was/is 
> ideal for large Sackville saddlebags.  You'll receive the top platform, a 
> full set of the Nitto Daruma bolt hardware assemblies for grabbing both 
> sets of stays.  You will receive one pair of stays, medium length, 
> straight.  You will need to buy another set of long stays from Riv to make 
> it complete.  $100 shipped to me.  This is the item you'll buy from 
> Rivendell:  Nitto Rack Hardware - 35cm straight struts, pair – Rivendell 
> Bicycle Works (rivbike.com) 
> 
>
> Let me know if you need photos or have questions
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>

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[RBW] Re: For Sale. Two rarities: CX70 brakes and R14 rack

[JAS]

Bill, 
I sent you an email regarding the R14 rack.  

--Joyce 

On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 9:44:46 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> While rummaging through my inventory I found two things that are long gone 
> and essentially ungettable at any price.  
>
> Shimano CX70 Cantilever brakes.  I have an extra set that I can live 
> without.  Lightly used.  You'll get both calipers (one whole bike's worth), 
> both link wires.  All the spacers and bolts to work with a wide array of 
> post spacing and rim width.  I'll provide them with stock Shimano inserts 
> or salmon koolstops.  $100 shipped
>
> Nitto R-14 rack.  This is the rear rack with the tombstone that was/is 
> ideal for large Sackville saddlebags.  You'll receive the top platform, a 
> full set of the Nitto Daruma bolt hardware assemblies for grabbing both 
> sets of stays.  You will receive one pair of stays, medium length, 
> straight.  You will need to buy another set of long stays from Riv to make 
> it complete.  $100 shipped to me.  This is the item you'll buy from 
> Rivendell:  Nitto Rack Hardware - 35cm straight struts, pair – Rivendell 
> Bicycle Works (rivbike.com) 
> 
>
> Let me know if you need photos or have questions
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>

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[RBW] For Sale. Two rarities: CX70 brakes and R14 rack

[Bill Lindsay]

While rummaging through my inventory I found two things that are long gone 
and essentially ungettable at any price.  

Shimano CX70 Cantilever brakes.  I have an extra set that I can live 
without.  Lightly used.  You'll get both calipers (one whole bike's worth), 
both link wires.  All the spacers and bolts to work with a wide array of 
post spacing and rim width.  I'll provide them with stock Shimano inserts 
or salmon koolstops.  $100 shipped

Nitto R-14 rack.  This is the rear rack with the tombstone that was/is 
ideal for large Sackville saddlebags.  You'll receive the top platform, a 
full set of the Nitto Daruma bolt hardware assemblies for grabbing both 
sets of stays.  You will receive one pair of stays, medium length, 
straight.  You will need to buy another set of long stays from Riv to make 
it complete.  $100 shipped to me.  This is the item you'll buy from 
Rivendell:  Nitto Rack Hardware - 35cm straight struts, pair – Rivendell 
Bicycle Works (rivbike.com) 


Let me know if you need photos or have questions

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Rivendell Readers #00-10

[Matthew Williams]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/384138274440

https://www.ebay.com/itm/353481358770




On May 4, 2021, at 8:21 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:

> Hi all — As some of you may recall I've been collecting printed matter from 
> Rivendell: Readers, catalogs and flyers from the past. 
> 
> I've got a ton of stuff but I'm missing the first run of readers, from issue 
> zero through number 10. Is there anyone willing to part with their run? If 
> so, please let me know! 
> 
> Thanks,
> Eric 
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[RBW] WTB: Rivendell Readers #00-10

[Eric Marth]

Hi all — As some of you may recall I've been collecting printed matter from 
Rivendell: Readers, catalogs and flyers from the past. 

I've got a ton of stuff but I'm missing the first run of readers, from 
issue zero through number 10. Is there anyone willing to part with their 
run? If so, please let me know! 

Thanks,
Eric 

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Re: [RBW] Clem Smith Jr. = N+Zero

[Brendan Willard]

Great news!   Great build! Enjoy!

>> Thanks,
>> -Brendan Willard
>> Owner/Winemaker
>> Phantômé Cellars
phantomecellars.com 

Speaking in Thumbs 

> On May 4, 2021, at 4:12 AM, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA 
>  wrote:
> 
> Built up this new-to-me 59 Clem H slowly over the past couple months and 
> it's convincing me I really don't need or want anything else. At 65, I've 
> been looking for my "last" bike project, and I truly think I can check that 
> box before serious downsizing happens. 
> 
> The bike fits, rides and looks exactly as it should, and although I suspect 
> I'll have fun with little mods in the coming years, it's just right in every 
> way from the get go. One thing I may play with is the gearing - it's set up 
> as a 1X7 now and I like the range even though most of my riding will be flat 
> rail-trail stuff that really only requires one or two gears - maybe three.  
> 
> I'm using a single Rivendell thumb shifter in no-mans land on the Bosco bars 
> and it's a good place for it to be. The added stoker nubs are a must have on 
> these bars. I find myself using that position about half the time. Might 
> raise the saddle a bit, but I like being able to put (most of) my foot down 
> without doing a ballerina move. 
> 
> A rear rack is being considered, but I won't need anything too substantial if 
> at all. I have a couple bag options to think about too. Fenders? Probably 
> not, but there's plenty of room. Gratuitous garage pic for now, but more to 
> come from the wild. 
> 
> Marty 
> Stewartstown, Pennsylvania
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> TA Zephyr crankset with TA AXIX BB - 36T with All City 44T guard
> Velocity Dyad rims with Big Ben tires 
> 40 hole XT rear hub - 36 hole Suntour XC9000 front hub - Paul skewers
> Shimano XT rear derailer
> Brooks B67 saddle
> Nitto technomic stem with Bosco bars - WTB ergo grips - Nitto plugs - Dia 
> Compe nubs
> Shimano XT V-brakes with Cane Creek Direct Curve levers
> MKS Grip King pedals
> King Cage with Rivendell bottle
> Spurcycle bell
> Cateye rear light on Paul Gino mount
> 
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Re: [RBW] Converting 650b Hilsen to Rene Herse 42/26 cranks

[Mark Allen]

I made a very similar switch from a 46-36-26 Sugino to a 42-26 White 
Industries VBC, both with an 11-34 9 speed cassette. It's been a great move 
– I don't miss the few high gears I lost, I still have plenty of really low 
gears for loaded climbing, and shifting is a bit simpler. The bottom 
bracket spindle length with the Sugino triple was 118mm long, and the White 
Industries support docs suggested a 113mm length was ideal for that 
crankset so I swapped those out, although the dark art of chainlines is a 
bit of a mystery to me so I don't know if keeping the 118mm would have had 
any adverse effects. I kept the front triple derailleur which worked fine 
with friction shifting after adjusting the limit screws. I've since moved 
to a 10 speed 11-34 cassette just because it was what I could find when I 
needed to replace it late last year, but everything still works flawlessly.

Mark
On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 5:50:56 PM UTC-4 Doug Williams wrote:

> Thanks very much, Patrick! As usual, very helpful.
>
> Doug
>
> On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 4:30:06 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Doug: There are all sorts of reasons to buy the RH crank, foremost among 
>> which is its beauty. But if you want a cheaper, more utilitarian way to get 
>> the same result, consider converting the homely Sugino by removing the 46 
>> and replacing it with a guard (https://bbgbashguard.com), swapping the 
>> 36 for a 42, and considering whether you need to swap the 24 for a 26; but 
>> if you decide that you do, this is easy. 
>>
>> Then you can hold an interior debate about the cogs you need to change in 
>> the rear.
>>
>> The *upshot* is that you can leave the bb spindle and even the front 
>> derailleur strictly alone. 
>>
>> Some years ago I changed the 46-36-24 on my Fargo, long since sold, to a 
>> BBBashGuard/38/24 on the same Sugino XD2. I swapped the 7 cogs on the 
>> Shimano LX freehub for 9 different ones; IIRC, I simply bought 9-sp spacers 
>> and built a cassette from the cogs in my Big Box.
>>
>> Note this carefully: I *did not* change the bb assembly, I kept the same 
>> LX triple front derailleur, *and I didn't even** lower the front 
>> derailleur.* I simply adjusted the fd outer throw adjustment screw. 
>>
>> It all worked fine. Again, I did not lower the fd; just left it hanging 
>> with a huge gap over the outer, formerly middle, ring.
>>
>> But once again, the RH crank is indeed very pretty, and I am tempted to 
>> buy one myself simply for prettiness.
>>
>> Oh,
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 1:53 PM Doug Williams  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 58cm 650b A. Homer Hilsen that I purchased from Riv in 2014. I 
>>> have been loving it ever since! It has the Sugino Triple Crank 46-36-24 and 
>>> I run it all friction shifting with bar end silvers, 8 speed with a 11-32 
>>> cassette. The front derailer is Shimano Claris Triple. The bottom bracket 
>>> is  bbc110.
>>>
>>> So...I'm getting older and I notice I don't use the 46 ring much, at 
>>> least not with the higher gears in the back. I am definitely an "UnRacer" 
>>> anyway. I am thinking of getting the Rene Herse double cranks with 42-26 
>>> rings. If I go with the 8 speed megarange 11-34 cassette in the back, I 
>>> would give up almost nothing in the lower gears and lose just some high 
>>> gears that I rarely use anyway. So two questions:
>>>
>>> 1. Is my bottom bracket compatible with the Rene Herse cranks? I think 
>>> so, but I'm not sure. Would now be a good time to replace it anyway?
>>>
>>> 2. Should I just keep my Claris triple FD and crank in the limit screw 
>>> or go with something like the Shimano CX70 or some other double FD that 
>>> works well with compact 42-26 rings?
>>>
>>> Any other comments or suggestions would be welcome.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
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>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 1993 62cm Bridgestone RB-1 $1000

[Jingy]

Where would local-ish be?

Jim in Mpls
On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 10:30:18 PM UTC-5 exliontamer wrote:

> Hey all. Looking for a local-ish sale on this. The build is pretty Riv'd 
> out. Everything in the picture is included outside of the bottle cages and 
> Brooks. I'll throw in a Selle Italia Titanium Flite if you like. Fresh & 
> lightly shellaced bar tape. Here's a list of parts I think are of note.
> *Velocity Synergy wheel set(Suntour XC 9000 fh/Shimano Ultegra rh) w/wide 
> range 8 speed cassette
> *New-ish Rivendell Roly Poly front and Ruffy Tuffy back tires
> *Shimano Claris rd/Shimano 600 tricolor fd
> *Shimano 8 speed bar ends dialed in perfectly for indexing but switchable 
> to friction
> *44cm Nitto Mark's Bar/Shimano BR-4000 levers/Nitto Technomic Tallux Stem
> *Sugino Compact Double Crankset w/MKS Lambda pedals
> *Shimano 600 Tricolor Brakes with a 2 sets of NOS pads
> It's easily the best feeling fast bike I've ever owned but it's time to 
> let it go. $1000 even.
>
> I'm happy to work out shipping so long as the buyer is willing to cover 
> all costs. I'll post some more pics of it in the sun tomorrow. Thanks
>
>

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[RBW] WTT — Brooks B17 Special, Honey for Black

[Michael J.]

After some recent frame swaps, I am looking to trade my Brooks B17 Special 
in honey for something that is black. Condition of the saddle is very 
nice—it’s not super broken in yet. I’d swap it for the same saddle in 
black, or something sprung (B67 or B72) in black as well.

Here’s  a pic:
https://i.imgur.com/rMSXxHa.jpg

More pictures available upon request. Contact off list to work something 
out. 

Michael

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[RBW] Re: First 40+ miles...

[ascpgh]

My bar end shifter knee strikes stopped once I settled on the right width 
of bars with the right amount of flare, regardless of the popular choices 
of the time. 

My legs are long for my height, so frame size and cockpit set up have my 
hands far from DT shifters, bar ends have long been my answer. Every bike 
has been unique due to fit and set up. I held on to a set of NOS set of 
Simplex/Mavic friction shifters for possible use on my 650B rando last year 
but when I mocked up the rolling chassis to try the reach, the bosses were 
just too far down. "Shift" was right, my whole body to reach the lever and 
move the chain over a cog.

I accepted that I use bar ends and made sure my new bar provided for knee 
clearance then I gifted the shifters to one of the mechanics who was 
piecing together a Waterford rando for a big west coast ride and they were 
perfect for his Rinko needs and the trains.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh
On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 4:35:17 PM UTC-4 Robert Dowtin wrote:

> Thanks so much for all the kind words! I promise I will attempt to provide 
> more entertaining reports and pictures in the near future. 
>
> Rich: I am not positive I love the silver 2s on the DT. I am not so sure I 
> would prefer them on the barends however... I need to give them lots of 
> time before I allow myself to develop a real opinion. 
>
> I really do have a hard time getting work done around here now. I find 
> myself spending a lot of time thinking about when I can get out again for a 
> ride and which bike I am going to take. 
> Update: I think I may have fixed the shifting by going back to the Suntour 
> Cyclone RD w/ an 11-28 cassette, instead of the 11-32. Everything seems to 
> be shifting quite nice with that and a vintage XT FD.
>
> Pic: Yesterday afternoon top of Mt. Gaylor
> [image: PXL_20210501_221613415.MP (1).jpg]
>
>
>

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