Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blahg, Leah, sheep

[Mike Godwin]

When I lived in the East Bay of SF Bay Area, a popular route for the racey 
crowd was along Mt Diablo Blvd in Lafayette. I would take my tricked out 
folding Peugeot coaster brake 20-inch bike with a plastic white basket with 
appropriate plastic flower to Ace Hardware. I changed every part on the 
bike I could with aluminum bits, plus Velocity rims of course. I'd get up 
speed and spin that sucker out and draft the racey boys. So much fun. Ace 
Hardware was 1-mile sprint, I was kind winded after that, but it was so 
much fun to annoy the carbon crowd. 

Mike much slower now in SLO CA

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 7:46:37 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Garth said: 
>
> "Isn't the point of Leah riding with her group to show people you don't 
> need a carbon bike like everyone else, don't need to wear the same clothing 
> as everyone else, or even ride like everyone else?"
>
> Yes, I'm (mostly)* being facetious cuz I know there's no way she's going 
> to ride one. As she so eloquently explained! 
>
> *I *am *curious how crazy fast she would be but we'll never know. 
>
> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 6:01:10 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>>
>> Isn't the point of Leah riding with her group to show people you don't 
>> need a carbon bike like everyone else, don't need to wear the same clothing 
>> as everyone else, or even ride like everyone else ? Keeping pace can be in 
>> an infinite variety of ways :)  Many cyclists have never seen such a bike 
>> as Leah's, they just assume that every bike is like theirs, or what they 
>> see at a bike shop. They have no idea what such a bike feels like to ride. 
>> Just keep doing what you're doing . Not that you need to be told to be 
>> yourself  !
>>
>> Non-conformity . that's what all the World thrives on, oh hell, there 
>> is no World without It. This doesn't infer isolation or going lone wolf 
>>  on the contrary  you will never feel more connected, more involved 
>> ... with Everyone !
>>
>>
>> Goats ?
>> Goats ! 
>> I like Goats too. 
>> I regularly ride to a group of rural homes where 2 families have goats 
>> across the street form each other. They are so much fun , so fascinating, 
>> so playful and their expressions on their faces priceless.  Words ? Who 
>> need words ? Communication is an "inside job" , you know ? All that "space" 
>> between the lines, in the "silence" Hah !  Far from empty . it's 
>> full of Life !  
>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 6:10:17 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick - Sell my Platypus? For some soulless road bike? This Platypus 
>>> was forged from elven fires and painted in a color so wonderful that it 
>>> didn’t even *exist* so we had to create it. There’s only one Raspberry 
>>> Platypus on God’s Green Earth and it’s a *racing* Platypus, which makes 
>>> it rarer still. Oh no, if I cannot ride the Racing Platypus in the club 
>>> rides then they are not worth riding. I mean, would you expect Pam Murray 
>>> to ride a road bike and not her Betty Foy? Unthinkable! 
>>>
>>> I’m happy you relate to besting other riders though - I did laugh as I 
>>> pictured you racing the graybeard at 14.7 mph - which is plenty fast, by 
>>> the way.
>>>
>>> Ryan - I blush at your confidence in me. I will give an honest report if 
>>> I get to hang with the faster group on Monday. Even if they kick my 
>>> Platypus tail.
>>>
>>> Joe - Nope. I don’t even want to borrow a soulless road bike. Being 
>>> forced to orient myself to the head-down, lean forward position would 
>>> probably demonstrate for the group an excellent crash. They would have to 
>>> take time to gather and package all my body parts, which would have a 
>>> definite negative impact on their pace. 
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Apr 30, 2022, at 4:17 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> +1. Sell your Platypus, Leah. It's not enough. You need a tricked-out 
>>> Roadeo with aero wheels and 6" drop between saddle and bar and a 56 X 11 
>>> top gear.
>>>
>>> I recall the pleasant feeling of riding my mountain bike long ago, with 
>>> those horrible 1990s tires that were the equivalent on pavement of riding 
>>> into a 25 mph headwind, and passing men my age (early 40s back then) on 
>>> hi-zoot road bikes. I didn't do this nastily, but it did give me an 
>>> egotistical thrill when I passed at a brisk speed differential and oh, so 
>>> casually! waved a forefinger, with the obligatory "nice bike!"
>>>
>>> The response was often a muted snarl. OTOH, I recall reeling in a roadie 
>>> in the distance a few years ago and, about to pass him, he sped up. He was 
>>> like me a grizzled graybeard, and we played passing tag for a few miles -- 
>>> old man slow motion; we would have snarled at each other but we were too 
>>> out of breath. We raced along side by side at exactly 14.743 mph.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 11:51 AM Ryan  wrote:
>>>
 don't know about carbon but I could easily imagine Leah on a 
 

Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blahg, Leah, sheep

[Joe Bernard]

Garth said: 

"Isn't the point of Leah riding with her group to show people you don't 
need a carbon bike like everyone else, don't need to wear the same clothing 
as everyone else, or even ride like everyone else?"

Yes, I'm (mostly)* being facetious cuz I know there's no way she's going to 
ride one. As she so eloquently explained! 

*I *am *curious how crazy fast she would be but we'll never know. 

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 6:01:10 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

>
> Isn't the point of Leah riding with her group to show people you don't 
> need a carbon bike like everyone else, don't need to wear the same clothing 
> as everyone else, or even ride like everyone else ? Keeping pace can be in 
> an infinite variety of ways :)  Many cyclists have never seen such a bike 
> as Leah's, they just assume that every bike is like theirs, or what they 
> see at a bike shop. They have no idea what such a bike feels like to ride. 
> Just keep doing what you're doing . Not that you need to be told to be 
> yourself  !
>
> Non-conformity . that's what all the World thrives on, oh hell, there 
> is no World without It. This doesn't infer isolation or going lone wolf 
>  on the contrary  you will never feel more connected, more involved 
> ... with Everyone !
>
>
> Goats ?
> Goats ! 
> I like Goats too. 
> I regularly ride to a group of rural homes where 2 families have goats 
> across the street form each other. They are so much fun , so fascinating, 
> so playful and their expressions on their faces priceless.  Words ? Who 
> need words ? Communication is an "inside job" , you know ? All that "space" 
> between the lines, in the "silence" Hah !  Far from empty . it's 
> full of Life !  
> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 6:10:17 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Patrick - Sell my Platypus? For some soulless road bike? This Platypus 
>> was forged from elven fires and painted in a color so wonderful that it 
>> didn’t even *exist* so we had to create it. There’s only one Raspberry 
>> Platypus on God’s Green Earth and it’s a *racing* Platypus, which makes 
>> it rarer still. Oh no, if I cannot ride the Racing Platypus in the club 
>> rides then they are not worth riding. I mean, would you expect Pam Murray 
>> to ride a road bike and not her Betty Foy? Unthinkable! 
>>
>> I’m happy you relate to besting other riders though - I did laugh as I 
>> pictured you racing the graybeard at 14.7 mph - which is plenty fast, by 
>> the way.
>>
>> Ryan - I blush at your confidence in me. I will give an honest report if 
>> I get to hang with the faster group on Monday. Even if they kick my 
>> Platypus tail.
>>
>> Joe - Nope. I don’t even want to borrow a soulless road bike. Being 
>> forced to orient myself to the head-down, lean forward position would 
>> probably demonstrate for the group an excellent crash. They would have to 
>> take time to gather and package all my body parts, which would have a 
>> definite negative impact on their pace. 
>>
>> Leah
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2022, at 4:17 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> +1. Sell your Platypus, Leah. It's not enough. You need a tricked-out 
>> Roadeo with aero wheels and 6" drop between saddle and bar and a 56 X 11 
>> top gear.
>>
>> I recall the pleasant feeling of riding my mountain bike long ago, with 
>> those horrible 1990s tires that were the equivalent on pavement of riding 
>> into a 25 mph headwind, and passing men my age (early 40s back then) on 
>> hi-zoot road bikes. I didn't do this nastily, but it did give me an 
>> egotistical thrill when I passed at a brisk speed differential and oh, so 
>> casually! waved a forefinger, with the obligatory "nice bike!"
>>
>> The response was often a muted snarl. OTOH, I recall reeling in a roadie 
>> in the distance a few years ago and, about to pass him, he sped up. He was 
>> like me a grizzled graybeard, and we played passing tag for a few miles -- 
>> old man slow motion; we would have snarled at each other but we were too 
>> out of breath. We raced along side by side at exactly 14.743 mph.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 11:51 AM Ryan  wrote:
>>
>>> don't know about carbon but I could easily imagine Leah on a 
>>> Roadeo...just sayin'
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 12:22:26 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 The question is what she would do on one of those 16 lbs. carbon 
 racers. Borrow one, Leah! Let's find out! 浪

 Joe "in the slow group" Bernard

 On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 9:44:53 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Somehow I don't think you'll be humbled, Leah
>
> All those years of schlepping your sons' excess stuff up and down 
> "Killer Hill""  on your school runs, plus all the running and strength 
> training you do will , I'm sure, stand you in good stead. And you have 
> your 
> not-so-secret weapon; a Raspberry Racing Platypus
>
> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 11:02:29 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle 

[RBW] Re: That new rear derailer

[Ray Varella]

I’m definitely in for at least one. 

I’m also curious about the V-brakes. The feature of being able to open far 
enough to clear a fat tire has me sold. 

Ray

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 7:33:54 AM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:

> From the Blahh:
> “Yesterday our first sample rear derailer was sent to us from ye olde 
> People's Republic of China, made by the same people who've made the 
> derailers many of you are riding with now, assuming they are not Shimano or 
> Microshift or Campagnolo. They made it according to our design, which 
> borrowed some of its geometry from Shimano's Rapid Rise derailers, which I 
> ordinarily wouldn't do, but justify now because Shimano has discontinued 
> this style of derailer, and it's too good to be extinct. If Shimano decides 
> to make them again, which NO WAY, they'd have to do it before we sink tons 
> of money and have to stop and disappoint the factory and lose all kinds of 
> international face. It's complicated. Nobody in Taiwan is interested. 
> Nobody in America is capable beyond "theoretically." It sure can't happen 
> in Europe. A small CNC machinist is not going to do it, assembly and all, 
> for less than a price to us that would mean a price to you of less than 
> $800. So please don't punch up at your beloved Rivendell or an unbeloved me 
> for "going to China."  China is the only way these are gonna get made 
> before Kingdom Come. Your buddy the machinist is not capable of making one 
> of these in a form and with a price that will work.”
>
> I’ll also be ordering at least one of these. I’ve wasted enough dollars 
> and hours trying to find a RD that will fit a 11-40t cassettes and keep the 
> chain tight with a double crankset (46/30t). This looks like a shinny 
> silver bullet solution for a fair price. 
>
> Does it look like a 11t jockey and 13t pulley?
>
> On Friday, 29 April 2022 at 17:22:13 UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Big pulley and rapid rise. Gonna buy a couple of these.
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-04-29 at 8.21.30 PM.png]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm Toyo or Waterford Atlantis

[Dave S]

Matt,

I sent you a private message but there's a chance it's gone to spam as 
nobody ever replied to my private messages!

Anyway, let me know if you do or don't receive it.

Dave


On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 10:27:54 AM UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:

> Giving this another shot, in case someone might know of one for sale...
>
> Best regards,
> Matt in Oswego, IL
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blahg, Leah, sheep

[Julian Westerhout]

I would imagine and hope that the point of Leah riding with her group is 
for Leah to enjoy herself riding her bike in the company of others ...   
 Just ride.  :) 


Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 8:01:10 PM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

>
> Isn't the point of Leah riding with her group to show people you don't 
> need a carbon bike like everyone else, don't need to wear the same clothing 
> as everyone else, or even ride like everyone else ? Keeping pace can be in 
> an infinite variety of ways :)  Many cyclists have never seen such a bike 
> as Leah's, they just assume that every bike is like theirs, or what they 
> see at a bike shop. They have no idea what such a bike feels like to ride. 
> Just keep doing what you're doing . Not that you need to be told to be 
> yourself  !
>
> Non-conformity . that's what all the World thrives on, oh hell, there 
> is no World without It. This doesn't infer isolation or going lone wolf 
>  on the contrary  you will never feel more connected, more involved 
> ... with Everyone !
>
>
> Goats ?
> Goats ! 
> I like Goats too. 
> I regularly ride to a group of rural homes where 2 families have goats 
> across the street form each other. They are so much fun , so fascinating, 
> so playful and their expressions on their faces priceless.  Words ? Who 
> need words ? Communication is an "inside job" , you know ? All that "space" 
> between the lines, in the "silence" Hah !  Far from empty . it's 
> full of Life !  
> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 6:10:17 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Patrick - Sell my Platypus? For some soulless road bike? This Platypus 
>> was forged from elven fires and painted in a color so wonderful that it 
>> didn’t even *exist* so we had to create it. There’s only one Raspberry 
>> Platypus on God’s Green Earth and it’s a *racing* Platypus, which makes 
>> it rarer still. Oh no, if I cannot ride the Racing Platypus in the club 
>> rides then they are not worth riding. I mean, would you expect Pam Murray 
>> to ride a road bike and not her Betty Foy? Unthinkable! 
>>
>> I’m happy you relate to besting other riders though - I did laugh as I 
>> pictured you racing the graybeard at 14.7 mph - which is plenty fast, by 
>> the way.
>>
>> Ryan - I blush at your confidence in me. I will give an honest report if 
>> I get to hang with the faster group on Monday. Even if they kick my 
>> Platypus tail.
>>
>> Joe - Nope. I don’t even want to borrow a soulless road bike. Being 
>> forced to orient myself to the head-down, lean forward position would 
>> probably demonstrate for the group an excellent crash. They would have to 
>> take time to gather and package all my body parts, which would have a 
>> definite negative impact on their pace. 
>>
>> Leah
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2022, at 4:17 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> +1. Sell your Platypus, Leah. It's not enough. You need a tricked-out 
>> Roadeo with aero wheels and 6" drop between saddle and bar and a 56 X 11 
>> top gear.
>>
>> I recall the pleasant feeling of riding my mountain bike long ago, with 
>> those horrible 1990s tires that were the equivalent on pavement of riding 
>> into a 25 mph headwind, and passing men my age (early 40s back then) on 
>> hi-zoot road bikes. I didn't do this nastily, but it did give me an 
>> egotistical thrill when I passed at a brisk speed differential and oh, so 
>> casually! waved a forefinger, with the obligatory "nice bike!"
>>
>> The response was often a muted snarl. OTOH, I recall reeling in a roadie 
>> in the distance a few years ago and, about to pass him, he sped up. He was 
>> like me a grizzled graybeard, and we played passing tag for a few miles -- 
>> old man slow motion; we would have snarled at each other but we were too 
>> out of breath. We raced along side by side at exactly 14.743 mph.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 11:51 AM Ryan  wrote:
>>
>>> don't know about carbon but I could easily imagine Leah on a 
>>> Roadeo...just sayin'
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 12:22:26 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 The question is what she would do on one of those 16 lbs. carbon 
 racers. Borrow one, Leah! Let's find out! 浪

 Joe "in the slow group" Bernard

 On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 9:44:53 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Somehow I don't think you'll be humbled, Leah
>
> All those years of schlepping your sons' excess stuff up and down 
> "Killer Hill""  on your school runs, plus all the running and strength 
> training you do will , I'm sure, stand you in good stead. And you have 
> your 
> not-so-secret weapon; a Raspberry Racing Platypus
>
> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 11:02:29 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Patrick, ha! I am a type A personality. I have never been competitive 
>> though, so this feeling of needing to be quick is new to me. In club 
>> riding, I 

Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blahg, Leah, sheep

[Garth]

Isn't the point of Leah riding with her group to show people you don't need 
a carbon bike like everyone else, don't need to wear the same clothing as 
everyone else, or even ride like everyone else ? Keeping pace can be in an 
infinite variety of ways :)  Many cyclists have never seen such a bike as 
Leah's, they just assume that every bike is like theirs, or what they see 
at a bike shop. They have no idea what such a bike feels like to ride. Just 
keep doing what you're doing . Not that you need to be told to be yourself 
 !

Non-conformity . that's what all the World thrives on, oh hell, there 
is no World without It. This doesn't infer isolation or going lone wolf 
 on the contrary  you will never feel more connected, more involved 
... with Everyone !


Goats ?
Goats ! 
I like Goats too. 
I regularly ride to a group of rural homes where 2 families have goats 
across the street form each other. They are so much fun , so fascinating, 
so playful and their expressions on their faces priceless.  Words ? Who 
need words ? Communication is an "inside job" , you know ? All that "space" 
between the lines, in the "silence" Hah !  Far from empty . it's 
full of Life !  
On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 6:10:17 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Patrick - Sell my Platypus? For some soulless road bike? This Platypus was 
> forged from elven fires and painted in a color so wonderful that it didn’t 
> even *exist* so we had to create it. There’s only one Raspberry Platypus 
> on God’s Green Earth and it’s a *racing* Platypus, which makes it rarer 
> still. Oh no, if I cannot ride the Racing Platypus in the club rides then 
> they are not worth riding. I mean, would you expect Pam Murray to ride a 
> road bike and not her Betty Foy? Unthinkable! 
>
> I’m happy you relate to besting other riders though - I did laugh as I 
> pictured you racing the graybeard at 14.7 mph - which is plenty fast, by 
> the way.
>
> Ryan - I blush at your confidence in me. I will give an honest report if I 
> get to hang with the faster group on Monday. Even if they kick my Platypus 
> tail.
>
> Joe - Nope. I don’t even want to borrow a soulless road bike. Being forced 
> to orient myself to the head-down, lean forward position would probably 
> demonstrate for the group an excellent crash. They would have to take time 
> to gather and package all my body parts, which would have a definite 
> negative impact on their pace. 
>
> Leah
>
> On Apr 30, 2022, at 4:17 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> 
>
> +1. Sell your Platypus, Leah. It's not enough. You need a tricked-out 
> Roadeo with aero wheels and 6" drop between saddle and bar and a 56 X 11 
> top gear.
>
> I recall the pleasant feeling of riding my mountain bike long ago, with 
> those horrible 1990s tires that were the equivalent on pavement of riding 
> into a 25 mph headwind, and passing men my age (early 40s back then) on 
> hi-zoot road bikes. I didn't do this nastily, but it did give me an 
> egotistical thrill when I passed at a brisk speed differential and oh, so 
> casually! waved a forefinger, with the obligatory "nice bike!"
>
> The response was often a muted snarl. OTOH, I recall reeling in a roadie 
> in the distance a few years ago and, about to pass him, he sped up. He was 
> like me a grizzled graybeard, and we played passing tag for a few miles -- 
> old man slow motion; we would have snarled at each other but we were too 
> out of breath. We raced along side by side at exactly 14.743 mph.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 11:51 AM Ryan  wrote:
>
>> don't know about carbon but I could easily imagine Leah on a 
>> Roadeo...just sayin'
>>
>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 12:22:26 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> The question is what she would do on one of those 16 lbs. carbon racers. 
>>> Borrow one, Leah! Let's find out! 浪
>>>
>>> Joe "in the slow group" Bernard
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 9:44:53 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 Somehow I don't think you'll be humbled, Leah

 All those years of schlepping your sons' excess stuff up and down 
 "Killer Hill""  on your school runs, plus all the running and strength 
 training you do will , I'm sure, stand you in good stead. And you have 
 your 
 not-so-secret weapon; a Raspberry Racing Platypus

 On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 11:02:29 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Patrick, ha! I am a type A personality. I have never been competitive 
> though, so this feeling of needing to be quick is new to me. In club 
> riding, I have discovered it is fun to go fast, and it’s also fun to 
> explore where one stacks up in comparison to others. I’m sure if I move 
> to 
> the faster class I’ll be thoroughly humbled. We’ll see on Monday!
> Leah
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 10:50:52 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I don't look for wisdom from Grant's blogs, but they do provide 
>> 

Re: [RBW] Re: A Quiet Ride and Thoughts of Bicycle Commuting

[Doug H.]

Oh, and I do want a dynamo setup so I don't have to remember to charge my 
lights. I plan to put an order in with Rich on Monday. Does anyone have a 
recommendation for front and rear lights?
Doug

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 8:56:02 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I appreciated all of the feedback. I think I will start by commuting once 
> a week as has been suggested and go from there. I'll need a rack and I 
> think the Rivendell Shiny Rear Rack would be great, when it's back in 
> stock. I already have a Sackville Backabike Pannier to use which should 
> hold all I need. I can take my bicycle into my office so don't have to 
> worry about storing it outdoors. 
> Doug
>
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 9:14:04 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Back when I was forced to work in an *office* -- I quit mid-June 2008 
>> and have worked at home for myself ever since -- I would commute 15 or 16 
>> miles 1-way (I often added another 4-5 miles 1-way) across town, with 7 
>> miles of gradual climbing inbound. I rode several 67" or 70" fixed gears 
>> with Nelson or Camper Longflaps, the last being that 2003 Riv Road custom 
>> converted to fixed drivetrain by Dave Porter.
>>
>> I always had in-office space to park my bikes, thank God -- one place 
>> even gave me 2 offices, one for me, one for the bike; another added a 
>> little alcove closet with shelving and hanger bar for clothing.
>>
>> I was lucky as I didn't have to report until 9 am, and even taking ~60 
>> minutes for the cross-town ride, I was often the first to arrive. We had no 
>> showers, but I found a private office with big desk fan on High and roll of 
>> paper towels and a spritzer bottle of rubbing alcohol did wonderful 
>> cool-down and clean-up duty. I always started my mornings with a shower, so 
>> I started clean -- makes a huge difference.
>>
>> I rode probably an average of 3X per week, and sometimes carried clothes 
>> in the car on off days. But I usually carried the day's clothing, except 
>> for shoes kept in a desk drawer, along with lunch and repair kit, in the 
>> Nelson LF. 
>>
>> I have to say that my riding style was not "just ride." In my strong, 
>> young late 40s and early 50s I'd often break 60 minutes (54 was my shortest 
>> time) for 16 miles, clock running, even though my route took me through 
>> downtown -- Gold to Central, and Central across town to Juan Tabo, again, 
>> climbing, fixed gear, stopping at lights. I'd always beat the Route 66 bus, 
>> often passing it at the transit center on 1st between Gold and Central and 
>> staying ahead of it the rest of the way.
>>
>> After a few years of this, I slowed and found a quieter, 15-mile route 
>> through the University and the Fairgrounds, paralleling 66; times bumped to 
>> 63-65 minutes, IIRC, but without the 50 mph traffic on 66's eastern fringes.
>>
>> Despite the hustle, I was always in a far, far better mood after riding 
>> than after driving, this despite the fact that my driving route and 
>> conditions were pretty mellow. Funny, even though my return ride included 7 
>> miles downhill, my times were never faster on return; partly I guess 
>> because I couldn't coast or upshift, but largely because of the strong 
>> Westerlies that almost always brewed up in the mid-afternoon. 
>>
>> [As to driving, ~2X per week, this averaged just under 30 minutes, with 
>> 23 min record, IIRC, one manic morning. Recall blasting up I-40 to the Juan 
>> Tabo exit, running late one manic, and zooming under the pedestrian bridge 
>> just No. of Eubank at 85 -- only to see 2 cops leaning over and pointing 
>> radar guns eagerly at me -- too late to slow down. But this was in the 1990 
>> Plymouth Voyager -- true invisible classic even with 140 (count 'em) 
>> stickers -- and the interceptors on the shoulder 1/2 mile further East 
>> didn't bother with me.]
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 7:44 AM Bill Schairer  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>1. Only one job had a shower.  Others, got there early (also allowed 
>>>for rare mechanical, flat), cooled down at desk then sponge bathed and 
>>>changed in bathroom stall.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: A Quiet Ride and Thoughts of Bicycle Commuting

[Doug H.]

I appreciated all of the feedback. I think I will start by commuting once a 
week as has been suggested and go from there. I'll need a rack and I think 
the Rivendell Shiny Rear Rack would be great, when it's back in stock. I 
already have a Sackville Backabike Pannier to use which should hold all I 
need. I can take my bicycle into my office so don't have to worry about 
storing it outdoors. 
Doug

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 9:14:04 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Back when I was forced to work in an *office* -- I quit mid-June 2008 and 
> have worked at home for myself ever since -- I would commute 15 or 16 miles 
> 1-way (I often added another 4-5 miles 1-way) across town, with 7 miles of 
> gradual climbing inbound. I rode several 67" or 70" fixed gears with Nelson 
> or Camper Longflaps, the last being that 2003 Riv Road custom converted to 
> fixed drivetrain by Dave Porter.
>
> I always had in-office space to park my bikes, thank God -- one place even 
> gave me 2 offices, one for me, one for the bike; another added a little 
> alcove closet with shelving and hanger bar for clothing.
>
> I was lucky as I didn't have to report until 9 am, and even taking ~60 
> minutes for the cross-town ride, I was often the first to arrive. We had no 
> showers, but I found a private office with big desk fan on High and roll of 
> paper towels and a spritzer bottle of rubbing alcohol did wonderful 
> cool-down and clean-up duty. I always started my mornings with a shower, so 
> I started clean -- makes a huge difference.
>
> I rode probably an average of 3X per week, and sometimes carried clothes 
> in the car on off days. But I usually carried the day's clothing, except 
> for shoes kept in a desk drawer, along with lunch and repair kit, in the 
> Nelson LF. 
>
> I have to say that my riding style was not "just ride." In my strong, 
> young late 40s and early 50s I'd often break 60 minutes (54 was my shortest 
> time) for 16 miles, clock running, even though my route took me through 
> downtown -- Gold to Central, and Central across town to Juan Tabo, again, 
> climbing, fixed gear, stopping at lights. I'd always beat the Route 66 bus, 
> often passing it at the transit center on 1st between Gold and Central and 
> staying ahead of it the rest of the way.
>
> After a few years of this, I slowed and found a quieter, 15-mile route 
> through the University and the Fairgrounds, paralleling 66; times bumped to 
> 63-65 minutes, IIRC, but without the 50 mph traffic on 66's eastern fringes.
>
> Despite the hustle, I was always in a far, far better mood after riding 
> than after driving, this despite the fact that my driving route and 
> conditions were pretty mellow. Funny, even though my return ride included 7 
> miles downhill, my times were never faster on return; partly I guess 
> because I couldn't coast or upshift, but largely because of the strong 
> Westerlies that almost always brewed up in the mid-afternoon. 
>
> [As to driving, ~2X per week, this averaged just under 30 minutes, with 23 
> min record, IIRC, one manic morning. Recall blasting up I-40 to the Juan 
> Tabo exit, running late one manic, and zooming under the pedestrian bridge 
> just No. of Eubank at 85 -- only to see 2 cops leaning over and pointing 
> radar guns eagerly at me -- too late to slow down. But this was in the 1990 
> Plymouth Voyager -- true invisible classic even with 140 (count 'em) 
> stickers -- and the interceptors on the shoulder 1/2 mile further East 
> didn't bother with me.]
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 7:44 AM Bill Schairer  wrote:
>
>>
>>1. Only one job had a shower.  Others, got there early (also allowed 
>>for rare mechanical, flat), cooled down at desk then sponge bathed and 
>>changed in bathroom stall.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: It might be even nicer on a Rivendell: 1975 news feature film on bicycle postman in rural Ireland

[Steven Sweedler]

Very nice group of bikes, Steve

On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 6:33 PM Dorothy C  wrote:

> My US located bikes
>
> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 3:29:23 PM UTC-7 Dorothy C wrote:
>
>> I am in SoCal now - Simi Valley. Most of my family members still live in
>> North Wales, where I grew up, and I have a grey 47cm Roadini on long term
>> loan with my sister there, for when I visit. I have 4 more Rivendells here,
>> too, orange Roadini, bronze Clem, sky blue Appaloosa and an RBW blue Cheviot
>>
>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 1:02:46 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Dorothy: Thanks for the translation!
>>>
>>> Where in GB do you live? Photo of bike (Rivendell?) in
>>> English/Scottish/Welsh/No Irish countryside?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 1:15 PM Dorothy C  wrote:
>>>
 He was riding a bike with rod brakes too!

 As a Brit, this is what I could make out of the interview sections

 Interviewer: how many miles?

 Postman: Near about 27 I suppose. Hilly, yeah

 I: Every day for 6 days a week?

 P: Yeah

 I: For the past 42 years?

 P: Yeah

 I: I saw 2 postmen this morning, one in a car, one on a motorbike. Is
 that the future now, are lads like you finished?

 P: I suppose we are finished, getting I am finished anyway

 I: You don’t think think that many more fellers will be riding bicycles?

 P: I would say not, I’d say not

 I: Is it very difficult? Is it very tough work?

 P: Well it is. Sure you will notice when you can drive up
 [unintelligible] another big difference

 I: Why don’t you start driving a car or motorbike?

 P: [unintelligible]

 I: Too late?

 P: Too late

 I: Do you know how to drive a car or motorbike?

 P: No

 —

 P: When you get to our age, you know, weather (?) and weight makes a
 big difference

 I: It is a beautiful day today, what is it like when the weather closes
 in here?

 P: Oh it is bad

 I: What is the worst part of it? The wind?

 P: The wind and the rain. [unintelligible] you are not able to stop

 I: Were you ever not able to deliver the mail?

 P: No, I delivered all the time, that many years

 I: Rain or snow?

 P: Rain or snow


 On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:20:22 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:

> When I first started as a bicycle postie I had a single speed and the
> hilliest run in the office. Fittest year of my life. Really great job
> though.
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[RBW] Re: Tool Fool - 27.2 seatpost solution

[Julian Westerhout]

Laing, 

Happy birthday!   :) 

I'd love to see a report on how you found the process once you've done it. 
easy to difficult, quality of result, etc. 

Thanks! 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 3:39:02 PM UTC-5 Paul in Dallas wrote:

>
> Thanks Laing. 
>
> I'm glad to know about this tool.
>
> I'm wondering about the pros and cons of changing a 26.8 or perhaps 26.6 
> which most of my bike are to a 27.2.
>
> Well, I can think of several pros...
> I just wouldn't want to mess the seat tube up if there are cons.
>
> Paul in Dallas 
>
> .
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Re: [RBW] Re: Chasing the Ghosts of Sinnipee - A Ride Report

[larson....@gmail.com]

No, it was sold and taken apart to be used as part of a dam. Several other 
houses may have been sold, taken apart and the materials reused in Mineral 
Point. Part of Sinnipee may be underwater, as river levels are higher as a 
result of dams downstream. Thanks for the interest.
Randy

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 6:46:27 PM UTC-5 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> Thanks for sharing, is the stone hotel still standing, Steve
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 7:38 PM larson@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> [image: EC4348D1-50E6-4C15-8E0C-96D78D67C90B.jpeg][image: 
>> AE3E7B15-8172-46F8-A3E7-FCAEE42CB90D.jpeg]
>>
>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 6:36:07 PM UTC-5 larson@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 19418C3A-C917-4EDB-8D9E-DC9C0BDAE853.jpeg][image: 
>>> B0C4A0C7-7029-420B-9882-222405D6BD5F.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 6:33:38 PM UTC-5 larson@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 [image: 9574097C-2395-443C-B3BF-336912EE7E50.jpeg][image: 
 D6061E96-ED63-4008-9F96-7FB9972E10EA.jpeg]I became a Rivendell owner 
 recently, and thought I would share a ride from yesterday. I use my bike 
 to 
 explore places, the speed of a bike is perfect for interacting with the 
 landscape. Southwestern Wisconsin has a lot of interesting early history 
 as 
 part of the early lead mining region. The ride was only 25 miles, starting 
 and finishing at the Sinsinawa Mound, but we were able to explore several 
 places along the Mississippi River. Sinnipee is a ghost town that had an 
 interesting, but very short lifespan. 

 The man who set up the town dreamed of a transcontinental railroad, and 
 that Sinnipee would become a major port on the Mississippi River, perhaps 
 even rival St. Louis. This was in 1835, and a large stone hotel was built 
 here. The story is that two future presidents stayed here during the time 
 they were stationed at Fort Crawford in Prairie du Chien. In1838 spring 
 snowmelt created serious flooding, and the resulting stagnate water 
 resulted in a deadly malaria outbreak. There is a small cemetery located 
 on 
 a bluff above the town site, a beautiful quiet place several hundred feet 
 above the Mississippi. There are said to be about 60-70 unmarked graves 
 here. By 1839 Sinnipee was completely abandoned.

 One of the more recent graves is part of a small family plot-the Fenley 
 family owned most of this land as part of their farm. Roscoe Fenley died 
 in 
 service as a Marine in WWI. He was stationed on the USS Pittsburg, which 
 spent most of the war in the South America region. The 1918 outbreak of 
 influenza killed 58 men on this ship, including this young Marine from 
 Wisconsin.

 I enjoy visiting, photographing and sometimes writing about places like 
 this in Wisconsin. The bike is such a great way to engage these place, to 
 experience deep travel. The picture of the path in the woods is close to 
 the Main Street of Sinnipee. The hiking picture is on the way to the bluff 
 top cemetery. Thank you for the interest.
 Randy

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[RBW] Re: Jim 7-Speed Cassettes

[Garth]

I had some bit of hope that these would use an consistent gear progression 
of 15-17-20-24 on the 13-34, but no . S-Works does the overly big 15-18 
jump along with the 18-21-24 which is unnecessarily close. I often wonder 
of anyone who designs these actually rides it. IRD does some weird cog 
progression with some of their offerings as well. 
On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 5:00:50 PM UTC-4 hinton...@gmail.com wrote:

> In 2022, pretty cool to see 7-speed cassettes sell out in less than 12 
> hours. But, if you missed out, this is a PSA that Soma has them in stock 
> still, though they don’t include the spacers like Riv did.
>
> 13-34: 
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/590906-s-ride-cassette-7sp-13-34t-cs-m200-6765?category=735
>
> 13-42: 
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/590907-s-ride-cassette-7sp-13-42t-cs-e500-6766?category=735
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Re: [RBW] Re: It might be even nicer on a Rivendell: 1975 news feature film on bicycle postman in rural Ireland

[Dorothy C]

I am in SoCal now - Simi Valley. Most of my family members still live in 
North Wales, where I grew up, and I have a grey 47cm Roadini on long term 
loan with my sister there, for when I visit. I have 4 more Rivendells here, 
too, orange Roadini, bronze Clem, sky blue Appaloosa and an RBW blue Cheviot

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 1:02:46 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Dorothy: Thanks for the translation! 
>
> Where in GB do you live? Photo of bike (Rivendell?) in 
> English/Scottish/Welsh/No Irish countryside?
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 1:15 PM Dorothy C  wrote:
>
>> He was riding a bike with rod brakes too!
>>
>> As a Brit, this is what I could make out of the interview sections
>>
>> Interviewer: how many miles?
>>
>> Postman: Near about 27 I suppose. Hilly, yeah
>>
>> I: Every day for 6 days a week?
>>
>> P: Yeah
>>
>> I: For the past 42 years?
>>
>> P: Yeah
>>
>> I: I saw 2 postmen this morning, one in a car, one on a motorbike. Is 
>> that the future now, are lads like you finished?
>>
>> P: I suppose we are finished, getting I am finished anyway
>>
>> I: You don’t think think that many more fellers will be riding bicycles?
>>
>> P: I would say not, I’d say not
>>
>> I: Is it very difficult? Is it very tough work?
>>
>> P: Well it is. Sure you will notice when you can drive up 
>> [unintelligible] another big difference
>>
>> I: Why don’t you start driving a car or motorbike?
>>
>> P: [unintelligible]
>>
>> I: Too late?
>>
>> P: Too late
>>
>> I: Do you know how to drive a car or motorbike?
>>
>> P: No
>>
>> —
>>
>> P: When you get to our age, you know, weather (?) and weight makes a big 
>> difference
>>
>> I: It is a beautiful day today, what is it like when the weather closes 
>> in here?
>>
>> P: Oh it is bad
>>
>> I: What is the worst part of it? The wind?
>>
>> P: The wind and the rain. [unintelligible] you are not able to stop
>>
>> I: Were you ever not able to deliver the mail?
>>
>> P: No, I delivered all the time, that many years
>>
>> I: Rain or snow?
>>
>> P: Rain or snow
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:20:22 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> When I first started as a bicycle postie I had a single speed and the 
>>> hilliest run in the office. Fittest year of my life. Really great job 
>>> though.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blahg, Leah, sheep

[Leah Peterson]

Patrick - Sell my Platypus? For some soulless road bike? This Platypus was 
forged from elven fires and painted in a color so wonderful that it didn’t even 
exist so we had to create it. There’s only one Raspberry Platypus on God’s 
Green Earth and it’s a racing Platypus, which makes it rarer still. Oh no, if I 
cannot ride the Racing Platypus in the club rides then they are not worth 
riding. I mean, would you expect Pam Murray to ride a road bike and not her 
Betty Foy? Unthinkable! 

I’m happy you relate to besting other riders though - I did laugh as I pictured 
you racing the graybeard at 14.7 mph - which is plenty fast, by the way.

Ryan - I blush at your confidence in me. I will give an honest report if I get 
to hang with the faster group on Monday. Even if they kick my Platypus tail.

Joe - Nope. I don’t even want to borrow a soulless road bike. Being forced to 
orient myself to the head-down, lean forward position would probably 
demonstrate for the group an excellent crash. They would have to take time to 
gather and package all my body parts, which would have a definite negative 
impact on their pace. 

Leah

> On Apr 30, 2022, at 4:17 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> 
> +1. Sell your Platypus, Leah. It's not enough. You need a tricked-out Roadeo 
> with aero wheels and 6" drop between saddle and bar and a 56 X 11 top gear.
> 
> I recall the pleasant feeling of riding my mountain bike long ago, with those 
> horrible 1990s tires that were the equivalent on pavement of riding into a 25 
> mph headwind, and passing men my age (early 40s back then) on hi-zoot road 
> bikes. I didn't do this nastily, but it did give me an egotistical thrill 
> when I passed at a brisk speed differential and oh, so casually! waved a 
> forefinger, with the obligatory "nice bike!"
> 
> The response was often a muted snarl. OTOH, I recall reeling in a roadie in 
> the distance a few years ago and, about to pass him, he sped up. He was like 
> me a grizzled graybeard, and we played passing tag for a few miles -- old man 
> slow motion; we would have snarled at each other but we were too out of 
> breath. We raced along side by side at exactly 14.743 mph.
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 11:51 AM Ryan  wrote:
>> don't know about carbon but I could easily imagine Leah on a Roadeo...just 
>> sayin'
>> 
>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 12:22:26 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>> The question is what she would do on one of those 16 lbs. carbon racers. 
>>> Borrow one, Leah! Let's find out! 浪
>>> 
>>> Joe "in the slow group" Bernard
>>> 
 On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 9:44:53 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
 Somehow I don't think you'll be humbled, Leah
 
 All those years of schlepping your sons' excess stuff up and down "Killer 
 Hill""  on your school runs, plus all the running and strength training 
 you do will , I'm sure, stand you in good stead. And you have your 
 not-so-secret weapon; a Raspberry Racing Platypus
 
> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 11:02:29 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
> Patrick, ha! I am a type A personality. I have never been competitive 
> though, so this feeling of needing to be quick is new to me. In club 
> riding, I have discovered it is fun to go fast, and it’s also fun to 
> explore where one stacks up in comparison to others. I’m sure if I move 
> to the faster class I’ll be thoroughly humbled. We’ll see on Monday!
> Leah
>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 10:50:52 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>> I don't look for wisdom from Grant's blogs, but they do provide 
>> refreshingly honest and positive interest. 
>> 
>> I don't want a low-normal rd or new sweepback bar, but I do like reading 
>> about Rivendell bicycles and their riders.
>> 
>> This appealed: 
>>> At the very end the ride, maybe 3/4 mile left, the leader for the 15 
>>> mph group whizzed past us. I said to my group, “Should we chase him?” 
>>> They laughed because surely I was joking - no one had anything left in 
>>> their legs after such a windy ride. I didn’t know if it was against the 
>>> rules to break from the group but we were so close to the end that I 
>>> decided to try. I chased and caught and even passed the rider, but when 
>>> I got to my vehicle where my legs were jelly and my voice was raspy. 
>>> Ok, maybe it was a little hard.
>>> 
>>> I don’t *really* care about beating people but I DO want them to know 
>>> you can ride a steel, upright bike and be plenty fast and relevant and 
>>> comfortable. I think that is my mission in this club
>> I expect Leah does have something of that "type A" competitive 
>> personality, and good for you!
>> 
>> Goats. Frankly, I like them better than platypuses. But they're close to 
>> sheep, and reading Grant's ecomium (I'll bet you have to look that up) 
>> of goats, it reminded me of this, stuck in mind from 

[RBW] Jim 7-Speed Cassettes

[TP H]

In 2022, pretty cool to see 7-speed cassettes sell out in less than 12 
hours. But, if you missed out, this is a PSA that Soma has them in stock 
still, though they don’t include the spacers like Riv did.

13-34: 
https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/590906-s-ride-cassette-7sp-13-34t-cs-m200-6765?category=735

13-42: 
https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/590907-s-ride-cassette-7sp-13-42t-cs-e500-6766?category=735

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[RBW] Tool Fool - 27.2 seatpost solution

[st nick]

Thanks Laing. 
I'm glad to know about this tool.
I'm wondering about the pros and cons of changing a 26.8 or perhaps 26.6 which 
most of my bike are to a 27.2.
Well, I can think of several pros...I just wouldn't want to mess the seat tube 
up if there are cons.
Paul in Dallas 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest Blahg, Leah, sheep

[Patrick Moore]

+1. Sell your Platypus, Leah. It's not enough. You need a tricked-out
Roadeo with aero wheels and 6" drop between saddle and bar and a 56 X 11
top gear.

I recall the pleasant feeling of riding my mountain bike long ago, with
those horrible 1990s tires that were the equivalent on pavement of riding
into a 25 mph headwind, and passing men my age (early 40s back then) on
hi-zoot road bikes. I didn't do this nastily, but it did give me an
egotistical thrill when I passed at a brisk speed differential and oh, so
casually! waved a forefinger, with the obligatory "nice bike!"

The response was often a muted snarl. OTOH, I recall reeling in a roadie in
the distance a few years ago and, about to pass him, he sped up. He was
like me a grizzled graybeard, and we played passing tag for a few miles --
old man slow motion; we would have snarled at each other but we were too
out of breath. We raced along side by side at exactly 14.743 mph.


On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 11:51 AM Ryan  wrote:

> don't know about carbon but I could easily imagine Leah on a Roadeo...just
> sayin'
>
> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 12:22:26 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> The question is what she would do on one of those 16 lbs. carbon racers.
>> Borrow one, Leah! Let's find out! 浪
>>
>> Joe "in the slow group" Bernard
>>
>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 9:44:53 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Somehow I don't think you'll be humbled, Leah
>>>
>>> All those years of schlepping your sons' excess stuff up and down
>>> "Killer Hill""  on your school runs, plus all the running and strength
>>> training you do will , I'm sure, stand you in good stead. And you have your
>>> not-so-secret weapon; a Raspberry Racing Platypus
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 11:02:29 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Patrick, ha! I am a type A personality. I have never been competitive
 though, so this feeling of needing to be quick is new to me. In club
 riding, I have discovered it is fun to go fast, and it’s also fun to
 explore where one stacks up in comparison to others. I’m sure if I move to
 the faster class I’ll be thoroughly humbled. We’ll see on Monday!
 Leah
 On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 10:50:52 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I don't look for wisdom from Grant's blogs, but they do provide
> refreshingly honest and positive interest.
>
> I don't want a low-normal rd or new sweepback bar, but I do like
> reading about Rivendell bicycles and their riders.
>
> This appealed:
>
> At the very end the ride, maybe 3/4 mile left, the leader for the 15
> mph group whizzed past us. I said to my group, “Should we chase him?” They
> laughed because surely I was joking - no one had anything left in their
> legs after such a windy ride. I didn’t know if it was against the rules to
> break from the group but we were so close to the end that I decided to 
> try.
> I chased and caught and even passed the rider, but when I got to my 
> vehicle
> where my legs were jelly and my voice was raspy. Ok, maybe it was a little
> hard.
>
> I don’t *really* care about beating people but I DO want them to know
> you can ride a steel, upright bike and be plenty fast and relevant and
> comfortable. I think that is my mission in this club
>
> I expect Leah *does* have something of that "type A" competitive
> personality, and good for you!
>
> Goats. Frankly, I like them better than platypuses. But they're close
> to sheep, and reading Grant's ecomium (I'll bet you have to look that up)
> of goats, it reminded me of this, stuck in mind from years and decades 
> ago. *Bad
> Child's Book of Beasts* by Hillaire Belloc, illus. Lord Ian Basil
> Gawaine Hamilton Temple Blackwood, 1896.
>
> The Cambrian Welsh or Mountain Sheep
>
> Is of the Ovine race,
>
> His conversation is not deep
>
> But then—observe his face!
> [image: image.png]
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Re: [RBW] Re: It might be even nicer on a Rivendell: 1975 news feature film on bicycle postman in rural Ireland

[Patrick Moore]

Dorothy: Thanks for the translation!

Where in GB do you live? Photo of bike (Rivendell?) in
English/Scottish/Welsh/No Irish countryside?


On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 1:15 PM Dorothy C  wrote:

> He was riding a bike with rod brakes too!
>
> As a Brit, this is what I could make out of the interview sections
>
> Interviewer: how many miles?
>
> Postman: Near about 27 I suppose. Hilly, yeah
>
> I: Every day for 6 days a week?
>
> P: Yeah
>
> I: For the past 42 years?
>
> P: Yeah
>
> I: I saw 2 postmen this morning, one in a car, one on a motorbike. Is that
> the future now, are lads like you finished?
>
> P: I suppose we are finished, getting I am finished anyway
>
> I: You don’t think think that many more fellers will be riding bicycles?
>
> P: I would say not, I’d say not
>
> I: Is it very difficult? Is it very tough work?
>
> P: Well it is. Sure you will notice when you can drive up [unintelligible]
> another big difference
>
> I: Why don’t you start driving a car or motorbike?
>
> P: [unintelligible]
>
> I: Too late?
>
> P: Too late
>
> I: Do you know how to drive a car or motorbike?
>
> P: No
>
> —
>
> P: When you get to our age, you know, weather (?) and weight makes a big
> difference
>
> I: It is a beautiful day today, what is it like when the weather closes in
> here?
>
> P: Oh it is bad
>
> I: What is the worst part of it? The wind?
>
> P: The wind and the rain. [unintelligible] you are not able to stop
>
> I: Were you ever not able to deliver the mail?
>
> P: No, I delivered all the time, that many years
>
> I: Rain or snow?
>
> P: Rain or snow
>
>
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:20:22 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> When I first started as a bicycle postie I had a single speed and the
>> hilliest run in the office. Fittest year of my life. Really great job
>> though.
>>
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[RBW] WTB: 1-1/8” steel spacers -black

[Eric M Cardella]

I’m looking for a tall stack of steel spacers, such as those made by Nitto, 
Simworks, and others. I need at least 55mm below the stem, plus 3-5mm above. 

Parameters: black (gloss, not matte finish), ~31.8mm outer diameter.

Here are some links for reference. I’m hoping someone has a bin full to recycle.

https://crustbikes.com/products/nitto-steel-headset-spacers

https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/stems-decaleurs/stem-spacers/

https://analogcycles.com/products/simworks-headset-spacers?_pos=4&_sid=f7c6d5a40&_ss=r=40095935135921

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[RBW] Re: It might be even nicer on a Rivendell: 1975 news feature film on bicycle postman in rural Ireland

[Dorothy C]

He was riding a bike with rod brakes too!

As a Brit, this is what I could make out of the interview sections

Interviewer: how many miles?

Postman: Near about 27 I suppose. Hilly, yeah

I: Every day for 6 days a week?

P: Yeah

I: For the past 42 years?

P: Yeah

I: I saw 2 postmen this morning, one in a car, one on a motorbike. Is that 
the future now, are lads like you finished?

P: I suppose we are finished, getting I am finished anyway

I: You don’t think think that many more fellers will be riding bicycles?

P: I would say not, I’d say not

I: Is it very difficult? Is it very tough work?

P: Well it is. Sure you will notice when you can drive up [unintelligible] 
another big difference

I: Why don’t you start driving a car or motorbike?

P: [unintelligible]

I: Too late?

P: Too late

I: Do you know how to drive a car or motorbike?

P: No

—

P: When you get to our age, you know, weather (?) and weight makes a big 
difference

I: It is a beautiful day today, what is it like when the weather closes in 
here?

P: Oh it is bad

I: What is the worst part of it? The wind?

P: The wind and the rain. [unintelligible] you are not able to stop

I: Were you ever not able to deliver the mail?

P: No, I delivered all the time, that many years

I: Rain or snow?

P: Rain or snow


On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 11:20:22 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:

> When I first started as a bicycle postie I had a single speed and the 
> hilliest run in the office. Fittest year of my life. Really great job 
> though.
>

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[RBW] Re: Latest Blahg, Leah, sheep

[Ryan]

don't know about carbon but I could easily imagine Leah on a Roadeo...just 
sayin'

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 12:22:26 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> The question is what she would do on one of those 16 lbs. carbon racers. 
> Borrow one, Leah! Let's find out! 浪
>
> Joe "in the slow group" Bernard
>
> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 9:44:53 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Somehow I don't think you'll be humbled, Leah
>>
>> All those years of schlepping your sons' excess stuff up and down "Killer 
>> Hill""  on your school runs, plus all the running and strength training you 
>> do will , I'm sure, stand you in good stead. And you have your 
>> not-so-secret weapon; a Raspberry Racing Platypus
>>
>> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 11:02:29 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick, ha! I am a type A personality. I have never been competitive 
>>> though, so this feeling of needing to be quick is new to me. In club 
>>> riding, I have discovered it is fun to go fast, and it’s also fun to 
>>> explore where one stacks up in comparison to others. I’m sure if I move to 
>>> the faster class I’ll be thoroughly humbled. We’ll see on Monday!
>>> Leah
>>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 10:50:52 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 I don't look for wisdom from Grant's blogs, but they do provide 
 refreshingly honest and positive interest. 

 I don't want a low-normal rd or new sweepback bar, but I do like 
 reading about Rivendell bicycles and their riders.

 This appealed: 

 At the very end the ride, maybe 3/4 mile left, the leader for the 15 
 mph group whizzed past us. I said to my group, “Should we chase him?” They 
 laughed because surely I was joking - no one had anything left in their 
 legs after such a windy ride. I didn’t know if it was against the rules to 
 break from the group but we were so close to the end that I decided to 
 try. 
 I chased and caught and even passed the rider, but when I got to my 
 vehicle 
 where my legs were jelly and my voice was raspy. Ok, maybe it was a little 
 hard.

 I don’t *really* care about beating people but I DO want them to know 
 you can ride a steel, upright bike and be plenty fast and relevant and 
 comfortable. I think that is my mission in this club

 I expect Leah *does* have something of that "type A" competitive 
 personality, and good for you!

 Goats. Frankly, I like them better than platypuses. But they're close 
 to sheep, and reading Grant's ecomium (I'll bet you have to look that up) 
 of goats, it reminded me of this, stuck in mind from years and decades 
 ago. *Bad 
 Child's Book of Beasts* by Hillaire Belloc, illus. Lord Ian Basil 
 Gawaine Hamilton Temple Blackwood, 1896.

 The Cambrian Welsh or Mountain Sheep

 Is of the Ovine race,

 His conversation is not deep

 But then—observe his face!
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[RBW] Re: Latest Blahg, Leah, sheep

[Joe Bernard]

The question is what she would do on one of those 16 lbs. carbon racers. 
Borrow one, Leah! Let's find out! 浪

Joe "in the slow group" Bernard

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 9:44:53 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Somehow I don't think you'll be humbled, Leah
>
> All those years of schlepping your sons' excess stuff up and down "Killer 
> Hill""  on your school runs, plus all the running and strength training you 
> do will , I'm sure, stand you in good stead. And you have your 
> not-so-secret weapon; a Raspberry Racing Platypus
>
> On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 11:02:29 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Patrick, ha! I am a type A personality. I have never been competitive 
>> though, so this feeling of needing to be quick is new to me. In club 
>> riding, I have discovered it is fun to go fast, and it’s also fun to 
>> explore where one stacks up in comparison to others. I’m sure if I move to 
>> the faster class I’ll be thoroughly humbled. We’ll see on Monday!
>> Leah
>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 10:50:52 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> I don't look for wisdom from Grant's blogs, but they do provide 
>>> refreshingly honest and positive interest. 
>>>
>>> I don't want a low-normal rd or new sweepback bar, but I do like reading 
>>> about Rivendell bicycles and their riders.
>>>
>>> This appealed: 
>>>
>>> At the very end the ride, maybe 3/4 mile left, the leader for the 15 mph 
>>> group whizzed past us. I said to my group, “Should we chase him?” They 
>>> laughed because surely I was joking - no one had anything left in their 
>>> legs after such a windy ride. I didn’t know if it was against the rules to 
>>> break from the group but we were so close to the end that I decided to try. 
>>> I chased and caught and even passed the rider, but when I got to my vehicle 
>>> where my legs were jelly and my voice was raspy. Ok, maybe it was a little 
>>> hard.
>>>
>>> I don’t *really* care about beating people but I DO want them to know 
>>> you can ride a steel, upright bike and be plenty fast and relevant and 
>>> comfortable. I think that is my mission in this club
>>>
>>> I expect Leah *does* have something of that "type A" competitive 
>>> personality, and good for you!
>>>
>>> Goats. Frankly, I like them better than platypuses. But they're close to 
>>> sheep, and reading Grant's ecomium (I'll bet you have to look that up) of 
>>> goats, it reminded me of this, stuck in mind from years and decades ago. 
>>> *Bad 
>>> Child's Book of Beasts* by Hillaire Belloc, illus. Lord Ian Basil 
>>> Gawaine Hamilton Temple Blackwood, 1896.
>>>
>>> The Cambrian Welsh or Mountain Sheep
>>>
>>> Is of the Ovine race,
>>>
>>> His conversation is not deep
>>>
>>> But then—observe his face!
>>> [image: image.png]
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] FS: NEW Honjo H80N fenders with struts.

[Igor]

https://imgur.com/a/vZA9grU

H80N fenders with u-struts. No other hardware. $90 shipped

Thanks,
igor
ann arbor, mi

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[RBW] Re: Latest Blahg, Leah, sheep

[Ryan]

Somehow I don't think you'll be humbled, Leah

All those years of schlepping your sons' excess stuff up and down "Killer 
Hill""  on your school runs, plus all the running and strength training you 
do will , I'm sure, stand you in good stead. And you have your 
not-so-secret weapon; a Raspberry Racing Platypus

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 11:02:29 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Patrick, ha! I am a type A personality. I have never been competitive 
> though, so this feeling of needing to be quick is new to me. In club 
> riding, I have discovered it is fun to go fast, and it’s also fun to 
> explore where one stacks up in comparison to others. I’m sure if I move to 
> the faster class I’ll be thoroughly humbled. We’ll see on Monday!
> Leah
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 10:50:52 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I don't look for wisdom from Grant's blogs, but they do provide 
>> refreshingly honest and positive interest. 
>>
>> I don't want a low-normal rd or new sweepback bar, but I do like reading 
>> about Rivendell bicycles and their riders.
>>
>> This appealed: 
>>
>> At the very end the ride, maybe 3/4 mile left, the leader for the 15 mph 
>> group whizzed past us. I said to my group, “Should we chase him?” They 
>> laughed because surely I was joking - no one had anything left in their 
>> legs after such a windy ride. I didn’t know if it was against the rules to 
>> break from the group but we were so close to the end that I decided to try. 
>> I chased and caught and even passed the rider, but when I got to my vehicle 
>> where my legs were jelly and my voice was raspy. Ok, maybe it was a little 
>> hard.
>>
>> I don’t *really* care about beating people but I DO want them to know you 
>> can ride a steel, upright bike and be plenty fast and relevant and 
>> comfortable. I think that is my mission in this club
>>
>> I expect Leah *does* have something of that "type A" competitive 
>> personality, and good for you!
>>
>> Goats. Frankly, I like them better than platypuses. But they're close to 
>> sheep, and reading Grant's ecomium (I'll bet you have to look that up) of 
>> goats, it reminded me of this, stuck in mind from years and decades ago. 
>> *Bad 
>> Child's Book of Beasts* by Hillaire Belloc, illus. Lord Ian Basil 
>> Gawaine Hamilton Temple Blackwood, 1896.
>>
>> The Cambrian Welsh or Mountain Sheep
>>
>> Is of the Ovine race,
>>
>> His conversation is not deep
>>
>> But then—observe his face!
>> [image: image.png]
>> -- 
>>
>> ---
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Latest Blahg, Leah, sheep

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Patrick, ha! I am a type A personality. I have never been competitive 
though, so this feeling of needing to be quick is new to me. In club 
riding, I have discovered it is fun to go fast, and it’s also fun to 
explore where one stacks up in comparison to others. I’m sure if I move to 
the faster class I’ll be thoroughly humbled. We’ll see on Monday!
Leah
On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 10:50:52 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I don't look for wisdom from Grant's blogs, but they do provide 
> refreshingly honest and positive interest. 
>
> I don't want a low-normal rd or new sweepback bar, but I do like reading 
> about Rivendell bicycles and their riders.
>
> This appealed: 
>
> At the very end the ride, maybe 3/4 mile left, the leader for the 15 mph 
> group whizzed past us. I said to my group, “Should we chase him?” They 
> laughed because surely I was joking - no one had anything left in their 
> legs after such a windy ride. I didn’t know if it was against the rules to 
> break from the group but we were so close to the end that I decided to try. 
> I chased and caught and even passed the rider, but when I got to my vehicle 
> where my legs were jelly and my voice was raspy. Ok, maybe it was a little 
> hard.
>
> I don’t *really* care about beating people but I DO want them to know you 
> can ride a steel, upright bike and be plenty fast and relevant and 
> comfortable. I think that is my mission in this club
>
> I expect Leah *does* have something of that "type A" competitive 
> personality, and good for you!
>
> Goats. Frankly, I like them better than platypuses. But they're close to 
> sheep, and reading Grant's ecomium (I'll bet you have to look that up) of 
> goats, it reminded me of this, stuck in mind from years and decades ago. *Bad 
> Child's Book of Beasts* by Hillaire Belloc, illus. Lord Ian Basil Gawaine 
> Hamilton Temple Blackwood, 1896.
>
> The Cambrian Welsh or Mountain Sheep
>
> Is of the Ovine race,
>
> His conversation is not deep
>
> But then—observe his face!
> [image: image.png]
> -- 
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
>

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[RBW] Re: That new rear derailer

[Pancake]

>From the Blahh:
“Yesterday our first sample rear derailer was sent to us from ye olde 
People's Republic of China, made by the same people who've made the 
derailers many of you are riding with now, assuming they are not Shimano or 
Microshift or Campagnolo. They made it according to our design, which 
borrowed some of its geometry from Shimano's Rapid Rise derailers, which I 
ordinarily wouldn't do, but justify now because Shimano has discontinued 
this style of derailer, and it's too good to be extinct. If Shimano decides 
to make them again, which NO WAY, they'd have to do it before we sink tons 
of money and have to stop and disappoint the factory and lose all kinds of 
international face. It's complicated. Nobody in Taiwan is interested. 
Nobody in America is capable beyond "theoretically." It sure can't happen 
in Europe. A small CNC machinist is not going to do it, assembly and all, 
for less than a price to us that would mean a price to you of less than 
$800. So please don't punch up at your beloved Rivendell or an unbeloved me 
for "going to China."  China is the only way these are gonna get made 
before Kingdom Come. Your buddy the machinist is not capable of making one 
of these in a form and with a price that will work.”

I’ll also be ordering at least one of these. I’ve wasted enough dollars and 
hours trying to find a RD that will fit a 11-40t cassettes and keep the 
chain tight with a double crankset (46/30t). This looks like a shinny 
silver bullet solution for a fair price. 

Does it look like a 11t jockey and 13t pulley?

On Friday, 29 April 2022 at 17:22:13 UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Big pulley and rapid rise. Gonna buy a couple of these.
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-04-29 at 8.21.30 PM.png]
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm Toyo or Waterford Atlantis

[Matt Beecher]

Giving this another shot, in case someone might know of one for sale...

Best regards,
Matt in Oswego, IL

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Re: [RBW] WTB 60cm PlatypusTeam Pro

[Melanie]

Hi Roberta!  Can you put your finger on how the Platy ride differs from the 
Appaloosa? That is, if you can remember your old Appaloosa days.

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 5:16:31 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

>
> Congratulations on the new bike. It does ride smothly, doesn’t it? 
>  I’m looking forward to your pics. 
>
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 10:30:55 PM UTC-4 rsb...@msn.com wrote:
>
>> Having trouble posting photos or links to photos. Keep getting message 
>> too big error.
>>
>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 10:28:42 PM UTC-4 Richard Borneman wrote:
>>
>>> First ride on the Platy was nice. Did a 18 mile ride through a local 
>>> state park. half paved and half not. This bike is a keeper. I wasn't sure 
>>> how the low gearing would work for me but it was great. If someone told me 
>>> a few years ago a 38/24 crankset and a 11-36 cassette would be a good 
>>> combo, I wouldn't have believed it. Some first impressions...
>>> Took me a few shifts to get back in the friction mode after mostly index 
>>> shifting the last few years. The wheelbase is Lg, 125mm
>>> I like to look down to see what cog I'm occasionally and found I had to 
>>> look dow and bend over to see the gears.
>>> Didn't like the B67 Brooks. Too wide for my ass. Going to swap it out 
>>> for a B17 or a Team Pro
>>> Told my wife on the way home from Jersey, I can ride this bike off into 
>>> the sunset. Now I really do have too many bikes.
>>> Big purge coming. Some candidates are-
>>> 62 Sam Hillborne
>>> 63cm Casati
>>> 60cm Velo Orang Polyvalent
>>> Send me a PM if you are interested in any of these bikes. I'll post an 
>>> add when I get a chance.
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] WTB 60cm PlatypusTeam Pro

[Roberta]

Congratulations on the new bike. It does ride smothly, doesn’t it?  I’m 
looking forward to your pics. 

On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 10:30:55 PM UTC-4 rsb...@msn.com wrote:

> Having trouble posting photos or links to photos. Keep getting message too 
> big error.
>
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 10:28:42 PM UTC-4 Richard Borneman wrote:
>
>> First ride on the Platy was nice. Did a 18 mile ride through a local 
>> state park. half paved and half not. This bike is a keeper. I wasn't sure 
>> how the low gearing would work for me but it was great. If someone told me 
>> a few years ago a 38/24 crankset and a 11-36 cassette would be a good 
>> combo, I wouldn't have believed it. Some first impressions...
>> Took me a few shifts to get back in the friction mode after mostly index 
>> shifting the last few years. The wheelbase is Lg, 125mm
>> I like to look down to see what cog I'm occasionally and found I had to 
>> look dow and bend over to see the gears.
>> Didn't like the B67 Brooks. Too wide for my ass. Going to swap it out for 
>> a B17 or a Team Pro
>> Told my wife on the way home from Jersey, I can ride this bike off into 
>> the sunset. Now I really do have too many bikes.
>> Big purge coming. Some candidates are-
>> 62 Sam Hillborne
>> 63cm Casati
>> 60cm Velo Orang Polyvalent
>> Send me a PM if you are interested in any of these bikes. I'll post an 
>> add when I get a chance.
>>
>

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