Re: [RBW] Re: Club Rides On A Racing Platypus

[Joe Bernard]

Leah, I love that you look like the ringleader in the group photo. Everyone 
else is on horses and you're in a gleaming CHARIOT 👑

On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 5:14:30 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> I got my Racing Platypus back for the rides this week. It has heavenly new 
> gray Ultradynamico tires and I love them. The roadies have been telling me 
> I should have a road bike. Today they said I should not have a road bike. I 
> should stay on that heavy Platypus or the carbon bike would spirit me away 
> and ahead of them. I’m glad we are finally in agreement. I will just ride 
> the Racing Platypus, like I intended from the start.
>
> Honestly I keep waiting for the day when they are just USED to me. They 
> still get nervous when I roll up to their 16 mph ride, like I’m gonna wreck 
> it. “This route has hills but we’ll wait if we lose some of you.” (Looks at 
> me.) I’ve never slowed them up or asked for any favors - this is all 
> prejudice. They make sure to give me backhanded compliments at the end of 
> the ride. You know the ones. “How much does that bike WEIGH?” “You are just 
> wearing sandals? Those aren’t clipless?” “You must be a really strong rider 
> [to pedal THAT bike].” “Well, I gotta hand it to you… [we all thought you 
> were a joke, but I guess you can do it.]” 
>
> We did 27.9 miles mostly between 16-19 mph, according to the splits on my 
> Apple Watch. Not bad.
> Photos in the next post…
> Leah
>
>
> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 2:57:28 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>
>> Curtis - Type 3 also, after the dust has settled, seems to entitle 
>> bragging rights whereas the first two types don't.
>>
>> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 11:02:37 AM UTC-5 Curtis wrote:
>>
>>> Toshi it sounds like you are describing a Type 2 activity.
>>>
>>> https://goeast.ems.com/three-types-of-fun/
>>>
>>> Peace
>>> Curtis
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2022, 8:47 AM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Leah,

 Congrats on your Clem ride (I would have been lying on the asphalt 
 going over 180 bpm!).  Do you think it was more enjoyable now that it's 
 been a few days?  In my randonneuring rides, there is a common phenomenon 
 known as randonesia, where the farther away from the suffering you get, 
 the 
 more fun it was to have completed that ride. Day of ride: "This really 
 sucks, why am I so stupid to do these rides."  After ride: "That hurt.  It 
 was nice to finish, but I'm never doing that again."  A week later: "I 
 can't believe I made it through that ride. It was "fun".  When is the next 
 ride?"

 Have "fun"!

 Toshi

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[RBW] iso : 650b sized silver pass & stow

[Michael Baquerizo]

i know this is a long shot, but why not. i want (not need) a pass and stow 
for my sam hillborne and am always terrified by the price. not saying it's 
not worth it, but perhaps someone here has one collecting dust?

feel free to contact off list. thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Club Rides On A Racing Platypus

[Patrick Moore]

Da-yum! I'm going to stop reading your posts!

On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 6:14 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ... We did 27.9 miles mostly between 16-19 mph, according to the splits on
> my Apple Watch. Not bad
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Club Rides On A Racing Platypus

[JAS]

You continue to be an inspiration, Leah!  You love your bike and show 
others how capable one can be no matter the differences.  Thank you for the 
reports and photos.

#RivSisters,
Joyce  

On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 7:01:17 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> Well just think how blah-zay their ride would be if you weren't around, 
> and before you came about !  Just remember, people aren't of themselves 
> what they think or what they do, it's not their real/true Identity. That 
> may go against what "society" says, everything you've ever been told and 
> accepted. Yeah so what ! Well who the heck is "society" anyways ? It's no 
> one, that's the "mother/father of all delusions" . that there is such a 
> thing and we answer to and are a product of "it/they/them". People are 
> People.ONESELF !    not a thing, a noun, a verb, an adjective 
> .. that's all nonsense. You are THAT You are ...and THAT is "beyond all 
> categorization".
>
> Just imagine for a moment, a group of Riv riders who do regular rides and 
> along comes someone on a carbon racing bike to play along, wearing full 
> racing gear. Would Riv riders look at them a little funny ? Make 
> suggestions of change their bike or setup so they can "be like/keep 
> up/down" with the rest of the group ?  Would the carbon "fit in" against 
> all the assumptions/biases about carbon bikes ?  
> "Road bikers" are just "bikers" like everyone else, as People are just 
> People. unconditionally so. None above or below anyone else. One's 
> distinct identity can't be homogenized into colors, races, classes, 
> religions and all the other ways of dishonoring and ignoring that inherent 
> distinction. 
>
> So I Honor the ride in You that Honors the Ride in Me. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Club Rides On A Racing Platypus

[Garth]

Well just think how blah-zay their ride would be if you weren't around, and 
before you came about !  Just remember, people aren't of themselves what 
they think or what they do, it's not their real/true Identity. That may go 
against what "society" says, everything you've ever been told and accepted. 
Yeah so what ! Well who the heck is "society" anyways ? It's no one, that's 
the "mother/father of all delusions" . that there is such a thing and 
we answer to and are a product of "it/they/them". People are 
People.ONESELF !    not a thing, a noun, a verb, an adjective 
.. that's all nonsense. You are THAT You are ...and THAT is "beyond all 
categorization".

Just imagine for a moment, a group of Riv riders who do regular rides and 
along comes someone on a carbon racing bike to play along, wearing full 
racing gear. Would Riv riders look at them a little funny ? Make 
suggestions of change their bike or setup so they can "be like/keep 
up/down" with the rest of the group ?  Would the carbon "fit in" against 
all the assumptions/biases about carbon bikes ?  
"Road bikers" are just "bikers" like everyone else, as People are just 
People. unconditionally so. None above or below anyone else. One's 
distinct identity can't be homogenized into colors, races, classes, 
religions and all the other ways of dishonoring and ignoring that inherent 
distinction. 

So I Honor the ride in You that Honors the Ride in Me. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Club Rides On A Racing Platypus

[CoalTrain]

Ha! You go gurl!


On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 8:08:19 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:

> The gray tires look great. I had Ultradynamico on my first Clem and they 
> were really nice albeit with knobs for off-road riding. It is cool that 
> your group poses for a photo and you are surrounded by a sea of Lycra! lol
> Doug
>
> On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 8:18:07 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>
>> The Racing Platypus and its new tires.
>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>>
>> The Lone Wolf, in a park bathroom selfie, obviously trying NOT to blend 
>> in:
>> [image: image2.jpeg][image: image3.jpeg]
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2022, at 8:14 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I got my Racing Platypus back for the rides this week. It has heavenly 
>> new gray Ultradynamico tires and I love them. The roadies have been telling 
>> me I should have a road bike. Today they said I should not have a road 
>> bike. I should stay on that heavy Platypus or the carbon bike would spirit 
>> me away and ahead of them. I’m glad we are finally in agreement. I will 
>> just ride the Racing Platypus, like I intended from the start.
>>
>>
>> Honestly I keep waiting for the day when they are just USED to me. They 
>> still get nervous when I roll up to their 16 mph ride, like I’m gonna wreck 
>> it. “This route has hills but we’ll wait if we lose some of you.” (Looks at 
>> me.) I’ve never slowed them up or asked for any favors - this is all 
>> prejudice. They make sure to give me backhanded compliments at the end of 
>> the ride. You know the ones. “How much does that bike WEIGH?” “You are just 
>> wearing sandals? Those aren’t clipless?” “You must be a really strong rider 
>> [to pedal THAT bike].” “Well, I gotta hand it to you… [we all thought you 
>> were a joke, but I guess you can do it.]” 
>>
>> We did 27.9 miles mostly between 16-19 mph, according to the splits on my 
>> Apple Watch. Not bad.
>> Photos in the next post…
>> Leah
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 2:57:28 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>>
>>> Curtis - Type 3 also, after the dust has settled, seems to entitle 
>>> bragging rights whereas the first two types don't.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 11:02:37 AM UTC-5 Curtis wrote:
>>>
 Toshi it sounds like you are describing a Type 2 activity.

 https://goeast.ems.com/three-types-of-fun/

 Peace
 Curtis

 On Thu, Jun 2, 2022, 8:47 AM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:

> Hi Leah,
>
> Congrats on your Clem ride (I would have been lying on the asphalt 
> going over 180 bpm!).  Do you think it was more enjoyable now that it's 
> been a few days?  In my randonneuring rides, there is a common phenomenon 
> known as randonesia, where the farther away from the suffering you get, 
> the 
> more fun it was to have completed that ride. Day of ride: "This really 
> sucks, why am I so stupid to do these rides."  After ride: "That hurt.  
> It 
> was nice to finish, but I'm never doing that again."  A week later: "I 
> can't believe I made it through that ride. It was "fun".  When is the 
> next 
> ride?"
>
> Have "fun"!
>
> Toshi
>
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Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[brendonoid]

That XL limeolive Susie is so perfect! Mine is currently sitting in customs 
hopefully will arrive early next week. I am also surprised at the lack of 
builds being posted.
That Gus is looking nice too!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Club Rides On A Racing Platypus

[Doug H.]

The gray tires look great. I had Ultradynamico on my first Clem and they 
were really nice albeit with knobs for off-road riding. It is cool that 
your group poses for a photo and you are surrounded by a sea of Lycra! lol
Doug

On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 8:18:07 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:

> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> The Racing Platypus and its new tires.
> [image: image1.jpeg]
>
> The Lone Wolf, in a park bathroom selfie, obviously trying NOT to blend in:
> [image: image2.jpeg][image: image3.jpeg]
>
> On Jun 10, 2022, at 8:14 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> I got my Racing Platypus back for the rides this week. It has heavenly 
> new gray Ultradynamico tires and I love them. The roadies have been telling 
> me I should have a road bike. Today they said I should not have a road 
> bike. I should stay on that heavy Platypus or the carbon bike would spirit 
> me away and ahead of them. I’m glad we are finally in agreement. I will 
> just ride the Racing Platypus, like I intended from the start.
>
>
> Honestly I keep waiting for the day when they are just USED to me. They 
> still get nervous when I roll up to their 16 mph ride, like I’m gonna wreck 
> it. “This route has hills but we’ll wait if we lose some of you.” (Looks at 
> me.) I’ve never slowed them up or asked for any favors - this is all 
> prejudice. They make sure to give me backhanded compliments at the end of 
> the ride. You know the ones. “How much does that bike WEIGH?” “You are just 
> wearing sandals? Those aren’t clipless?” “You must be a really strong rider 
> [to pedal THAT bike].” “Well, I gotta hand it to you… [we all thought you 
> were a joke, but I guess you can do it.]” 
>
> We did 27.9 miles mostly between 16-19 mph, according to the splits on my 
> Apple Watch. Not bad.
> Photos in the next post…
> Leah
>
>
> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 2:57:28 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>
>> Curtis - Type 3 also, after the dust has settled, seems to entitle 
>> bragging rights whereas the first two types don't.
>>
>> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 11:02:37 AM UTC-5 Curtis wrote:
>>
>>> Toshi it sounds like you are describing a Type 2 activity.
>>>
>>> https://goeast.ems.com/three-types-of-fun/
>>>
>>> Peace
>>> Curtis
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2022, 8:47 AM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Leah,

 Congrats on your Clem ride (I would have been lying on the asphalt 
 going over 180 bpm!).  Do you think it was more enjoyable now that it's 
 been a few days?  In my randonneuring rides, there is a common phenomenon 
 known as randonesia, where the farther away from the suffering you get, 
 the 
 more fun it was to have completed that ride. Day of ride: "This really 
 sucks, why am I so stupid to do these rides."  After ride: "That hurt.  It 
 was nice to finish, but I'm never doing that again."  A week later: "I 
 can't believe I made it through that ride. It was "fun".  When is the next 
 ride?"

 Have "fun"!

 Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: Club Rides On A Racing Platypus

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I got my Racing Platypus back for the rides this week. It has heavenly new 
gray Ultradynamico tires and I love them. The roadies have been telling me 
I should have a road bike. Today they said I should not have a road bike. I 
should stay on that heavy Platypus or the carbon bike would spirit me away 
and ahead of them. I’m glad we are finally in agreement. I will just ride 
the Racing Platypus, like I intended from the start.

Honestly I keep waiting for the day when they are just USED to me. They 
still get nervous when I roll up to their 16 mph ride, like I’m gonna wreck 
it. “This route has hills but we’ll wait if we lose some of you.” (Looks at 
me.) I’ve never slowed them up or asked for any favors - this is all 
prejudice. They make sure to give me backhanded compliments at the end of 
the ride. You know the ones. “How much does that bike WEIGH?” “You are just 
wearing sandals? Those aren’t clipless?” “You must be a really strong rider 
[to pedal THAT bike].” “Well, I gotta hand it to you… [we all thought you 
were a joke, but I guess you can do it.]” 

We did 27.9 miles mostly between 16-19 mph, according to the splits on my 
Apple Watch. Not bad.
Photos in the next post…
Leah


On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 2:57:28 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:

> Curtis - Type 3 also, after the dust has settled, seems to entitle 
> bragging rights whereas the first two types don't.
>
> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 11:02:37 AM UTC-5 Curtis wrote:
>
>> Toshi it sounds like you are describing a Type 2 activity.
>>
>> https://goeast.ems.com/three-types-of-fun/
>>
>> Peace
>> Curtis
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2022, 8:47 AM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Leah,
>>>
>>> Congrats on your Clem ride (I would have been lying on the asphalt going 
>>> over 180 bpm!).  Do you think it was more enjoyable now that it's been a 
>>> few days?  In my randonneuring rides, there is a common phenomenon known as 
>>> randonesia, where the farther away from the suffering you get, the more fun 
>>> it was to have completed that ride. Day of ride: "This really sucks, why am 
>>> I so stupid to do these rides."  After ride: "That hurt.  It was nice to 
>>> finish, but I'm never doing that again."  A week later: "I can't believe I 
>>> made it through that ride. It was "fun".  When is the next ride?"
>>>
>>> Have "fun"!
>>>
>>> Toshi
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of bike loads ...

[Patrick Moore]

Hard lives, but what strikes me in watching this series of videos (the
title is "World's deadliest roads" but there's a great deal of social
information and commentary in many of them, not just old trucks plowing
through mud or skirting precipices) is how cheerful and, frankly, "normal"
the poor villagers seem, be they black African, Burmese, or Bolivian. More
cheerful and normal than the faces one sees in my nearby supermarket. Well,
the Afghans from remote mountain villages seem a dour lot, but they too
give off an aura of "normal." Speaking of which, I recall from 54 years ago
a week-long trek in Nepal back before the tourists (crowds) came, when the
only way to get into the Himalayan ("Hee MAHL ayah," not "Him uh LAY uh")
foothill hinterlands was footpaths or helicopters. We passed through small
farming villages where people still lived much as they had 500 years
earlier (any small consumer goods, tobacco, kerosene, matches, sugar)
brought in on porter's backs after several-day hikes. (We also came across
Tibetan freedom fighters taking small arms back to their country on
muleback.) I still all these years later recall being struck at the
"normalness" of the villagers: very, very cheerful, friendly, and yet
dignified in a way that we moderns are not -- as if they had a core that
we've lost. That also describes the Burundian and Bolivian peasants, if not
the impoverished African and Asian urban proletariat: a "center" that we've
lost.

And back to bikes: I recall chasing decrepit buses and lorries uphill
outside of Nairobi circa 1969 to 1973; also belching black smoke into my
face at 12 mph. (I also recall drafting the short wheelbase, private buses
downhill while spinning out my 48X14, and being frightened, 3' behind the
rear bumper, when the bus suddenly turned to follow a sharp bend in the
road -- no guardrails and steep dropoffs!

On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 4:34 AM John Rinker  wrote:

> Well, *that* puts things into a very sharp perspective! Very hard lives
> indeed!
>
> I reminded of living in East Africa in the early 90s, and holding onto
> trucks to get up long hills just seemed to make sense. The trucks were
> slow, so it was the diesel exhaust that was the real danger.
>
> Thanks for offering that up.
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 1:26:00 PM UTC+9 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_gQiOoUwfk
>>
>> One man was carrying 200 or 250 kg of bananas.
>>
>> There's another video in the "Most Dangerous Roads" that shows the DR
>> Congo's incredibly bad (as in, literally, small-car-sized ruts and knee
>> deep mud) "roads" where a few km a day is not uncommon in trucks and buses
>> that in the US would have been compacted in 1980.
>>
>> But if it's bad for the trucks, there are men, often in pairs, who take
>> old bikes across the nearest border to buy cooking oil and other really
>> basic supplies in modest bulk, pushing the bikes night and day in worn flip
>> flops for hundreds of miles through mud and rain to make a few francs
>> profit -- US$1 - 2000+ Congolese francs.
>>
>> Really, really hard lives.
>>
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

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[RBW] Re: FS: Crank Stamp 1 Pedals, Shimano BL-R400 Brake Levers, Cantilevers, Race King Tires

[Johnny Alien]

Feel free to make offers. I need space for more junk and would love to see 
these get some use.

On Tuesday, June 7, 2022 at 8:20:02 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I have the following stuff for sale (all prices include shipping):
>
>1. Crank Stamp 1 Pedals - White with gold pins. This was a limited 
>color that I am not sure is around anymore. I put them on but decided to 
>try out some MKS pedals and pulled them. They are essentially new without 
> a 
>box. Great looking, light weight and super grippy. Size small but they are 
>still plenty big. 
>
> *$40 *
>2. Shimano BL-R400 Levers - I don't remember having these installed 
>very long. They look new. 
>
> *$30 *
>3. Continental Race King Tires - 650B X 2.2. I got these with some 
>wheels I bought. I didn't ride them much because I wanted something less 
>knobby. So while I don't know how many miles on them I can say they look 
> to 
>be in great shape overall. I don't think they were rode long. Really light 
>and supple but still big and knobby. I think they can be set up tubeless. 
>*$40* for the pair
>
>4. Shimano SLX Cantilever Brakes - These are I guess vintage but look 
>and work great. Comes with everything you need for the front and back. 
>*$30*
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Speaking of bike loads ...

[John Rinker]

Well, *that* puts things into a very sharp perspective! Very hard lives 
indeed!

I reminded of living in East Africa in the early 90s, and holding onto 
trucks to get up long hills just seemed to make sense. The trucks were 
slow, so it was the diesel exhaust that was the real danger.

Thanks for offering that up.

Cheers, John

On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 1:26:00 PM UTC+9 Patrick Moore wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_gQiOoUwfk
>
> One man was carrying 200 or 250 kg of bananas. 
>
> There's another video in the "Most Dangerous Roads" that shows the DR 
> Congo's incredibly bad (as in, literally, small-car-sized ruts and knee 
> deep mud) "roads" where a few km a day is not uncommon in trucks and buses 
> that in the US would have been compacted in 1980.
>
> But if it's bad for the trucks, there are men, often in pairs, who take 
> old bikes across the nearest border to buy cooking oil and other really 
> basic supplies in modest bulk, pushing the bikes night and day in worn flip 
> flops for hundreds of miles through mud and rain to make a few francs 
> profit -- US$1 - 2000+ Congolese francs.
>
> Really, really hard lives.
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> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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