[RBW] Re: FS: what’s left of parts revised pricing

['Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Pedals and hub have been sold

On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 9:01:44 AM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:

> On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 8:50:36 AM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>
>>
>> Update
>>
>> Nitto Albatross CroMo for local pickup in western MA, , $50. Exc 
>> condition. I can take pictures. 
>>
>> MKS Sylvan touring pedals (the real ones). So many shops sell MKS touring 
>> and they are all different. These have a nice sized platform.  1 new in 
>> package, $30 plus shipping.  
>>
>> Suntour NOS XC Pro 32 hole rear hub, 130mm spacing for freewheel. $65 
>> plus shipping.
>> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 2:27:58 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> Here is what is left
>>>
>>> Nitto Albatross CroMo for local pickup in western MA, , $50. Exc 
>>> condition. I can take pictures. 
>>>
>>> MKS Sylvan touring pedals (the real ones). So many shops sell MKS 
>>> touring and they are all different. These have a nice sized platform.  1 
>>> lightly used, $25, 1 new in package, $30 plus shipping.  Both $50 plus 
>>> shipping 
>>>  
>>>
>>> Suntour NOS XC Pro 32 hole rear hub, 130mm spacing for freewheel. $65 
>>> plus shipping.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ask for photos, site will not let me post them. 
>>> On Wednesday, June 1, 2022 at 11:00:47 AM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>>>

 Nitto Albatross CroMo for local pickup in western MA, , $50. Exc 
 condition. I can take pictures. 

 MKS Sylvan touring pedals (the real ones). So many shops sell MKS 
 touring and they are all different. These have a nice sized platform.  1 
 lightly used, $25, 1 new in package, $30 plus shipping.  Both $50 plus 
 shipping 

 2 Suntour XCD 4050 triple front derailleurs, NIB, $22 plus shipping 
 each. Both, $40 plus shipping. 

 Suntour NOS XC Pro 32 hole rear hub, 130mm spacing for freewheel. $65 
 plus shipping.

 2 Suntour X-1 fron derailleurs, NOS, some shop wear. $15, $25 for both 
 plus shipping. 

 Ask for photos, site will not let me post them. 

 Thanks,

 Joel

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: A bunch of nice parts I was accumulating for a build that isn't happening

[Mackenzy Albright]

Would you ship the light to Canada? If so I am interested. 

On Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 6:58:35 PM UTC-6 pa...@geall.com wrote:

> Nice looking App!  What is the bag you are using in the basket?
> Thanks
>
> On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 1:25:02 AM UTC-5 Seth wrote:
>
>> Yeah, the Ortho bars sold fast! I’m probably going to regret letting them 
>> go, but my Appaloosa is pretty darn dialed right now and I’m really loving 
>> the Tosco bars it came with. Had I not wrapped them I might have swapped 
>> them out but now it’s a done deal! 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 6:31 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>>> Oh man people gonna be groaning over those Ortho Bars
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 2:07:23 PM UTC-4 Stuart Lovinggood wrote:
>>>
 Interested in the Ortho bars. Sent a PM but unsure if it went through, 
 been a hot minute since I used Google Groups.  

 On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 9:29:50 AM UTC-7 Seth wrote:

> I have a bunch of parts that I was accumulating for a new Riv build I 
> was hoping to do (Susie or Atlantis) but I missed out on both presales. 
> Luckily I managed to score a great used Appaloosa recently so all is well 
> but this stuff now needs to go. Parts are all listed below with links to 
> pictures. Everything is negotiable; some stuff more than others if it is 
> New in Box (NIB). Details below.
>
> Paul Comp Canti Group - Lightly used, polished, new pads. Over $700 of 
> stuff new, would like to sell only as a group for $500. [Picture 
> ]
>
>- Paul Components Canti Lever (polished, pair)
>- Paul Components Touring Cantilever Brakes (polished, pair)
>- Paul Components Moon Unit (polished, pair)
>
> Crust Ron’s Ortho Bar (polished, 26.0 clamp, 690mm width, 80mm rise) 
> $120 (new in box) [Picture ]
>
> Nitto Technomic Stem (26.0 clamp, 120mm) $45 (new in box) [Picture 
> ]
>
> I'd also like to sell these as a pair. I had installed the 38T on my 
> Appaloosa for 5 miles before I decided to get a different crank so it has 
> minimal use. 24T is unused. They were $88 for both new, would like to 
> sell 
> for $60 for the pair.
>
>- Specialites T.A. Zephyr 38T black chainring, 110 BCD [Picture 
>]
>- Specialites T.A. Zelito 24T black chainring, 74 BCD [Picture 
>]
>
> Rivendell Silver Wide/Low Double Crankset with 38T/24T and bashguard, 
> 170mm length
> $250 (new) [Picture 1 ] 
> [Picture 
> 2 ]
>
> Busch & Muller Lumotec IQ dynamo light $30 [Picture 
> ]
>
> Dia-Compe short pull SS-6 levers (panda) $40 [Picture 
> ]
>
> Shimano Claris short pull levers (gray) $25 [Picture 
> ]
>
> 26.8 seatpost - FREE if you pay shipping since it has some rash on the 
> polish [Picture ]
>
> Rawland Demiporteur V3 rack $100 [Picture 1 
> ] [Picture 2 
> ]
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Replacement fork for 58cm Hillborne

[Mackenzy Albright]

I've had great luck with  local builders. depending on what the damage is, 
you could likely get them rebuilt for a reasonable price. 

On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 12:11:10 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yeah, I'm okay! Thanks Brendon. 
>
> On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 3:21:21 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> Weird wreck? Are you okay? What happened?
>>
>> I do not have a fork, sorry.
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Replacement fork for 58cm Hillborne

[Eric Marth]

Yeah, I'm okay! Thanks Brendon. 

On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 3:21:21 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> Weird wreck? Are you okay? What happened?
>
> I do not have a fork, sorry.
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Bars and more bars...

[Joe Mullins]

I’ve had some Choco bars in the parts bin for a few years. The reason I’ve yet 
to mount them is because they sweep back from the flats and offer nothing in 
front of the stem. Coming from drops and riding in the hoods, I like to 
sometimes have a position out in front of the stem which is what the Albatross 
bars give me. Maybe when the Roaduno comes out those Choco bars will find a 
home...

Joe in Los Angeles

> On Jun 13, 2022, at 8:55 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> I can't help with a bar, but I've used Pauls, DC, Shimano, Mafac, and
> Tektro cantis, and the Paul's do seem to have more power -- perhaps a
> bit more rigid? -- and they are certainly easiest to set up, including
> 15" wrench flats to adjust spring tension, which I find very, very
> desirable. And the principal advantage, for me, is that their pivots
> seemed to have less slop, which reduces judder and squeal caused by
> the flex of very long head and steerer tubes and a headset mounted
> housing stop. My frame has no crown hole, tho' one day I may get
> around to drilling one to mount a stop there. But the judder and
> squeal disappeared, or as much as makes no difference, when I replaced
> Tektros with Pauls; same stops and pads.
> 
> Whether all this justifies their price, I'll leave to you.
> 
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 6:54 PM John Moore  wrote:
>> Lasstly, brakes. I'm going canti. Are touring Pauls really that much better 
>> then Dia Compe to justify the price. I like bling, but not excessive which 
>> seems to be the case with Pauls.
>> 
>> Anyway, now calling upon the collective intelligence of this grp to give me 
>> a hand. Appreciate any and all replies.
>> 
>> - John
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Re: [RBW] Bars and more bars...

[Patrick Moore]

I can't help with a bar, but I've used Pauls, DC, Shimano, Mafac, and
Tektro cantis, and the Paul's do seem to have more power -- perhaps a
bit more rigid? -- and they are certainly easiest to set up, including
15" wrench flats to adjust spring tension, which I find very, very
desirable. And the principal advantage, for me, is that their pivots
seemed to have less slop, which reduces judder and squeal caused by
the flex of very long head and steerer tubes and a headset mounted
housing stop. My frame has no crown hole, tho' one day I may get
around to drilling one to mount a stop there. But the judder and
squeal disappeared, or as much as makes no difference, when I replaced
Tektros with Pauls; same stops and pads.

Whether all this justifies their price, I'll leave to you.

On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 6:54 PM John Moore  wrote:
> Lasstly, brakes. I'm going canti. Are touring Pauls really that much better 
> then Dia Compe to justify the price. I like bling, but not excessive which 
> seems to be the case with Pauls.
>
> Anyway, now calling upon the collective intelligence of this grp to give me a 
> hand. Appreciate any and all replies.
>
> - John

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[RBW] Sunglasses have been CLAIMED. [Free for postage: cheap (but nice) "Tifosi" sunglasses]

[Patrick Moore]

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Re: [RBW] Bars and more bars...

[Stephen]

Hey John,

I'm surprised no one's talked about choco bars yet. Personally I have yet 
to try them, but I think they look great. Riv describes them as being good 
for roadish bikes as an alternative to drop bars. Bikesnobnyc has them on 
his homer.

Paul brakes are incredible. I haven't used the dia compe canti's, but the 
paul's ease of setup and adjustibility allow you to dial in such a perfect 
brake feel in my experience. Painfully expensive but they'll last forever!

stephen

On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 8:33:32 AM UTC-4 larson@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: 3CF862D8-6758-4A8F-92A3-23A113CC1071.jpeg]
>
> On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 7:32:03 AM UTC-5 larson@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I have always been more of a drop bar guy, but after 500 miles on Billie 
>> bars I am starting to change my thinking. I do not like a too upright 
>> position - the front curves, which I use a lot, are about saddle level. The 
>> ends are angled slightly down which I like for descending or on the trail. 
>> The front curves feel similar to riding on the hoods of a drop bar. I keep 
>> thinking that  as my rides get longer I will wish for drop bars, but I have 
>> not found that to be the case. I feel like by flexing my elbows I can get a 
>> low enough position for a headwind, though obviously not as low as drops. 
>> Yesterday I rode 40+ miles in complete comfort with no hand, neck or 
>> shoulder (I’m rehabbing a rotator cuff injury)pain, and feel that 50-60 
>> miles would be no problem. These days I do not ride longer than that very 
>> often. The Joe Appaloosa with Billie bars is making me rethink my ideas on 
>> comfort.
>>
>> On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 6:52:54 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> I will definitely second being less comfortable when I am too upright. I 
>>> still haven't found a bar with back sweep and rise (albatross, boscos, 
>>> etc.) that I feel comfortable on. My bikes are all pretty much drops or 
>>> flat bars (wavies, bullmoose, Jones). I can only descend hills at any sort 
>>> of speed on drop bars. My favorite drops are Randonneur Bars (which Riv 
>>> does not sell) - the bars sweep up at the outside so that the ramps are 
>>> above the stem. I have been riding drops for 52 years since that first 
>>> Varsity Sport, the Super Sport a year later introduced me to Randonneur 
>>> bars (and Chrome-Moly frames and alloy rims and Brooks saddles). The top of 
>>> my bars are above the Saddle these days, but the drops are still below the 
>>> saddle.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 6:03:47 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>>>
 Hi John, 

 I'm surely not a "typical" Riv rider in that I grew up and am still 
 most comfortable/relaxed with a forward leaning position. The more upright 
 I go the more unstable I feel on the bike, exactly the opposite of what's 
 being touted. Don't believe anything/everything you read, *even this*, 
 everything you need to know you already know within yourself. I wouldn't 
 make a very good teacher as that'd be about all I'd say to the 
 "students". that and "why ask me that which you already know and are 
 ?" 
 Why ? so that in asking and answering we can laugh/revel in the 
 hilarity of playing *question and answer *!  Self Revelation  ...
  

>>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 57-59cm Sam/Atlantis/Appaloosa

['frank_a' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Justin,
 I sent you an email...
 Thanks,
 - Frank

On Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 8:56:59 PM UTC-4 alltheworl...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> New-ish lurker, first time poster. I had the good fortune to pick up Bill 
> Lindsay's Yves Gomez for my partner. I'm building that up to my partner's 
> specs, and will post pics as available!
>
> That super cool bike, alongside my longstanding admiration for Riv, has me 
> wanting a Riv to call my own. Does anyone have a 57-59 cm Sam, Atlantis, or 
> Appaloosa they're looking to unload? My PBH is 89. Size range is to account 
> for variation in sizing over the years.
>
> My top pick would be a 57 cm, recent, canti Sam. But really any of those 
> bikes from most eras would fit the bill for me. I'd consider frame/fork or 
> complete. 
>
> Thanks!
>
> Justin
>

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Re: [RBW] Bike Travel Bag for Atlantis 62 cm

[John Moore]

You may want to take a look at Pika Bags. Believe they are based out of Utah 
and make a very nice soft bag for bike travel. I have one for my XL MTB. They 
may have one that will fit yours or be willing to do a slight custom for ya. 

John

> On Jun 12, 2022, at 8:55 PM, Tom Conlon  wrote:
> 
> I'd like to get one of the new design Atlantis bikes, a 62cm version. I 
> intend to travel with the big Atlantis by plane. Its axle-to-axle measure is 
> 128cm.
> 
> I have a circa 2019 Evoc Bike Bag Pro that handles a MTB with a wheelbase of 
> 124 cm, with wheels, seat and bars removed. That's the max bike size Evoc 
> says this bag can handle.  
> 
> I am not sure if these big and long Rivendells are going to fit that Evoc 
> bag, which I think is the largest they make. 
> 
> Does anyone have any experience with using a bike travel bag for one of the 
> XL Rivendells?  Gotta find a travel bag solution or can't get a Riv bike. Any 
> suggestions for bags/boxes would be much appreciated.  
> 
> Thanks
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Re: [RBW] Bars and more bars...

[larson....@gmail.com]

I have always been more of a drop bar guy, but after 500 miles on Billie 
bars I am starting to change my thinking. I do not like a too upright 
position - the front curves, which I use a lot, are about saddle level. The 
ends are angled slightly down which I like for descending or on the trail. 
The front curves feel similar to riding on the hoods of a drop bar. I keep 
thinking that  as my rides get longer I will wish for drop bars, but I have 
not found that to be the case. I feel like by flexing my elbows I can get a 
low enough position for a headwind, though obviously not as low as drops. 
Yesterday I rode 40+ miles in complete comfort with no hand, neck or 
shoulder (I’m rehabbing a rotator cuff injury)pain, and feel that 50-60 
miles would be no problem. These days I do not ride longer than that very 
often. The Joe Appaloosa with Billie bars is making me rethink my ideas on 
comfort.

On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 6:52:54 AM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> I will definitely second being less comfortable when I am too upright. I 
> still haven't found a bar with back sweep and rise (albatross, boscos, 
> etc.) that I feel comfortable on. My bikes are all pretty much drops or 
> flat bars (wavies, bullmoose, Jones). I can only descend hills at any sort 
> of speed on drop bars. My favorite drops are Randonneur Bars (which Riv 
> does not sell) - the bars sweep up at the outside so that the ramps are 
> above the stem. I have been riding drops for 52 years since that first 
> Varsity Sport, the Super Sport a year later introduced me to Randonneur 
> bars (and Chrome-Moly frames and alloy rims and Brooks saddles). The top of 
> my bars are above the Saddle these days, but the drops are still below the 
> saddle.
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
>
> On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 6:03:47 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>> Hi John, 
>>
>> I'm surely not a "typical" Riv rider in that I grew up and am still most 
>> comfortable/relaxed with a forward leaning position. The more upright I go 
>> the more unstable I feel on the bike, exactly the opposite of what's being 
>> touted. Don't believe anything/everything you read, *even this*, 
>> everything you need to know you already know within yourself. I wouldn't 
>> make a very good teacher as that'd be about all I'd say to the 
>> "students". that and "why ask me that which you already know and are ?" 
>> Why ? so that in asking and answering we can laugh/revel in the 
>> hilarity of playing *question and answer *!  Self Revelation  ...
>>  
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Bars and more bars...

[John Moore]

Thank you one and ll who have provided some feedback on bars and brakes. Really 
helps a lot with decision process. 

And yes, after some years racing, fast group rides, big long solos in a day I 
do see moving to a Riv as a bit of downshifting but that is not a bad thing. In 
fact I’m really looking forward to those longer more leisurely adventures on 
one of these beautiful frames - just want to be sure that it is a comfortable 
ride as I know from past experiences, the wrong bars can just get uncomfortable 
after a period of time. While I don’t mind sitting more upright for a good part 
of ride, there are times when I just want to get down into the bike, eg drops. 


Happy trails,
John

> On Jun 12, 2022, at 9:25 PM, Richard Rose  wrote:
> 
> Tough question! Sure to get a lot of different opinions. I am on my first 
> Riv after decades on drops. I really like my 650 wide Tosco bar on my Clem L. 
> The 650 might be the only one available in the 31.8 clamp size, which is nice 
> as it is plenty stiff & simply does not slip using a FacePlater stem. It does 
> not have as much rise as the Bosco. I doubt you will want to flip them once 
> you try them upright. There are (for me) three good hand positions. It’s 
> great for a handlebar bag. And it costs less than the Nitto bars though the 
> finish is great. It is a heavy thing being ChrMo but it feels indestructible.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jun 12, 2022, at 8:54 PM, John Moore  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> In a few weeks I'll join the Rivendell ranks taking possession of a new 
>> Atlantis 59cm. This will be my first more relaxed bike after decades of 
>> serious road biking - basically downshifting, partly due to health, partly 
>> due to changes in what I want a bike to do. 
>> 
>> For this Atlantis, I plan to do relaxed around town rides and voyages on 
>> gravel roads - eg northern New England, rails to trails, eg the cross NY 
>> state trail system etc., self-supported with the camping gear and the like. 
>> 
>> I'm starting to put together my build list and all is coming along fine. 
>> Brooks saddle, Silver 178 crank, shimano rear derailleur, older campy front 
>> derailleur, etc.
>> 
>> Where I'm really struggling is picking out the bars. Will have thumbies, may 
>> want to have handlebar bag as well (used one yrs ago when touring through 
>> Europe) and found it super handy. Also, remember, I'm very accustomed to 
>> drop bars.
>> 
>> So...
>> 
>> Looking at Albastashe, but doesn't look compatible with handlebar bag. Don't 
>> want stem and bar combo. Albatross looks better for handlebar bag but not as 
>> many hand positions. Not sure about Bosco or Losco, would likely flip most 
>> of these to get some drop. The portola handlebar from Soma looks interesting 
>> but unlikely to have enough sweepback for that long top tube of Atlantis. 
>> 
>> Lastly, brakes. I'm going canti. Are touring Pauls really that much better 
>> then Dia Compe to justify the price. I like bling, but not excessive which 
>> seems to be the case with Pauls.
>> 
>> Anyway, now calling upon the collective intelligence of this grp to give me 
>> a hand. Appreciate any and all replies.
>> 
>> - John
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Re: [RBW] Bars and more bars...

[lconley]

I will definitely second being less comfortable when I am too upright. I 
still haven't found a bar with back sweep and rise (albatross, boscos, 
etc.) that I feel comfortable on. My bikes are all pretty much drops or 
flat bars (wavies, bullmoose, Jones). I can only descend hills at any sort 
of speed on drop bars. My favorite drops are Randonneur Bars (which Riv 
does not sell) - the bars sweep up at the outside so that the ramps are 
above the stem. I have been riding drops for 52 years since that first 
Varsity Sport, the Super Sport a year later introduced me to Randonneur 
bars (and Chrome-Moly frames and alloy rims and Brooks saddles). The top of 
my bars are above the Saddle these days, but the drops are still below the 
saddle.

Laing
Delray Beach FL

On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 6:03:47 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote:

> Hi John, 
>
> I'm surely not a "typical" Riv rider in that I grew up and am still most 
> comfortable/relaxed with a forward leaning position. The more upright I go 
> the more unstable I feel on the bike, exactly the opposite of what's being 
> touted. Don't believe anything/everything you read, *even this*, 
> everything you need to know you already know within yourself. I wouldn't 
> make a very good teacher as that'd be about all I'd say to the 
> "students". that and "why ask me that which you already know and are ?" 
> Why ? so that in asking and answering we can laugh/revel in the 
> hilarity of playing *question and answer *!  Self Revelation  ...
>  
>

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Re: [RBW] Bars and more bars...

[Garth]

Hi John, 

I'm surely not a "typical" Riv rider in that I grew up and am still most 
comfortable/relaxed with a forward leaning position. The more upright I go 
the more unstable I feel on the bike, exactly the opposite of what's being 
touted. Don't believe anything/everything you read, *even this*, everything 
you need to know you already know within yourself. I wouldn't make a very 
good teacher as that'd be about all I'd say to the "students". that and 
"why ask me that which you already know and are ?" Why ? so that in 
asking and answering we can laugh/revel in the hilarity of playing *question 
and answer *!  Self Revelation  ...

As the story goes  
On my Franklin custom road bike, after using Dirt Drop bars on it 
originally, I tried some 56cm steel Albatross bars which worked for me only 
because being a custom, it had a comparitively very long top tube. and 
I used Tektro bar end brake levers. It became obvious to me no matter where 
I put mtb levers the lever mount was always in the way of my hands. The 
Alba has *all that room* without any brake levers .. so enter the bar 
end levers !  I use regular bar tape up and just over the curve, where I 
have the thumbshifters. For bar usability like that, the Alba are to me 
much more usable than the Billie, which I do have a pair but doubt I'll 
ever use them as none of the so called positive attributes in print apply 
to me. It's quite narrow at the curve and it's width at the ends only comes 
from a slightly wider outsweep angle. It must be noted that my Alba is the 
no longer made 56cm. whose curve radius is a little larger in hand than the 
55 versions. I bought some 55's thinking they'd be exactly the same, with 
the narrowness coming from the center portion, but no, it wasn't. The 
Albastache is much more like the 56 Alba in that it has that nicely shaped 
radius for your hands. I have a pair I was hesitant to use as I didn't like 
how road brake levers felt in the positions touted in all the how-to's. 
What are they thinking, it's awful ! That's where you just can't live by 
what you read as depicting reality. Creativity needs and has no 
"instruction" ! Bar end brake levers be a screaming for that bar !  For 
shifters I'll either get some 23.8 thumbshifter mounts and place them just 
inside the curve, like my Alba, or possibly mount my Suntours on the stem 
vertically, or simply use DT shifters. The Albastache doesn't have much 
back reach so positioning it is more like doing a drop bar. 

Paul brakes I've never really been tempted by as the design simply doesn't 
work for me in any way. Give me what works, what's practicaIlike 
"traditional" cantilevers, full rubber, road sized, post-style centered 
pads that totally clear the stays. In todays retail, that'd be the 
DiaComple DC988. Why Riv doesn't offer it, you got me. It's everything in a 
cantilever they claim doesn't exist anymore. It never went away ;-) It even 
comes in anodised colors if you prefer from Porkchop BMX. I love that 
store as they also have many small DiaCompe parts as well as applicalbe 
road parts. They have stickers too, fun stickers, all kinds of stickers 
. and stickers are just plain fun. 

BTW, With a Nitto Lamp Holder 2, you could mount any bar bag .The bar sits 
70mm forward of the clamp and it's 200mm wide.  
https://benscycle.vtexassets.com/arquivos/ids/5687997/Nitto-Lamp-Holder-2-70---260mm-bens-large-nitto-lamp-holder-2-70-4724.jpg

The only difference between serious and relaxed riding is that one takes 
itself seriuosly  the other does not. The bike of itself does not 
matter, it's only a "prop" to act out the play..  

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Replacement fork for 58cm Hillborne

[brendonoid]

Weird wreck? Are you okay? What happened?

I do not have a fork, sorry.


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