[RBW] Re: Pedals, MKS XC Bear Trap III vs. MKS Bubble Pedals

[Luke Hendrickson]

I have the OG Suntours and they spin for days. Get a rebuilt pair plus add 
some vintage charm!

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 7:22:36 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Hey Max,
>
> Can't speak to the "why" aspect, but you're not crazy in your observation.
>
> We have (3) pairs of the BL BT III and (1) pair of the Bubbly pedals and 
> they're not in the same category. Not to say there's anything wrong with 
> the Bear Traps, but the Bubbly pedals are on an entirely different level.
>
> That said, either option good and you shouldn't regret your decision, you 
> did what works for the time being and maybe later on down the road you get 
> to try the alternative, but I wouldn't dwell on it all that much.
>
> Jared in SLO
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 7:05:10 PM UTC-8 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I decided to get new pedals for the bike I'm building. First I went to my 
>> LBS (Cambridge Bicycles) and they suggested the Simworks Bubbly pedals - I 
>> really liked the spin on them and the looks, but unfortunately they only 
>> had the olives in stock. They sent me to the Simworks website, but the 
>> polished were sold out. (Their next order was going to be in about a month 
>> at best)
>>
>> Reading through the forum I saw good comments on the Blue Lug Bear Trap 
>> III and ordered them in silver. 
>>
>> They arrived today and I'm surprised because they feel much less smooth 
>> than the bubbly ones. To be fair they are much less expensive $62 vs $100 
>> but still, is this normal?
>>
>> Is it the lack of sealed bearings that affects rotational performance?
>>
>> Will I feel a real difference if I go with one over the other?
>>
>> Thanks for your opinions and knowledge.
>>
>> Max in Boston
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Pedals, MKS XC Bear Trap III vs. MKS Bubble Pedals

[Jared Wilson]

Hey Max,

Can't speak to the "why" aspect, but you're not crazy in your observation.

We have (3) pairs of the BL BT III and (1) pair of the Bubbly pedals and 
they're not in the same category. Not to say there's anything wrong with 
the Bear Traps, but the Bubbly pedals are on an entirely different level.

That said, either option good and you shouldn't regret your decision, you 
did what works for the time being and maybe later on down the road you get 
to try the alternative, but I wouldn't dwell on it all that much.

Jared in SLO

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 7:05:10 PM UTC-8 maxcr wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I decided to get new pedals for the bike I'm building. First I went to my 
> LBS (Cambridge Bicycles) and they suggested the Simworks Bubbly pedals - I 
> really liked the spin on them and the looks, but unfortunately they only 
> had the olives in stock. They sent me to the Simworks website, but the 
> polished were sold out. (Their next order was going to be in about a month 
> at best)
>
> Reading through the forum I saw good comments on the Blue Lug Bear Trap 
> III and ordered them in silver. 
>
> They arrived today and I'm surprised because they feel much less smooth 
> than the bubbly ones. To be fair they are much less expensive $62 vs $100 
> but still, is this normal?
>
> Is it the lack of sealed bearings that affects rotational performance?
>
> Will I feel a real difference if I go with one over the other?
>
> Thanks for your opinions and knowledge.
>
> Max in Boston
>

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[RBW] Pedals, MKS XC Bear Trap III vs. MKS Bubble Pedals

[maxcr]

Hi Everyone,

I decided to get new pedals for the bike I'm building. First I went to my 
LBS (Cambridge Bicycles) and they suggested the Simworks Bubbly pedals - I 
really liked the spin on them and the looks, but unfortunately they only 
had the olives in stock. They sent me to the Simworks website, but the 
polished were sold out. (Their next order was going to be in about a month 
at best)

Reading through the forum I saw good comments on the Blue Lug Bear Trap III 
and ordered them in silver. 

They arrived today and I'm surprised because they feel much less smooth 
than the bubbly ones. To be fair they are much less expensive $62 vs $100 
but still, is this normal?

Is it the lack of sealed bearings that affects rotational performance?

Will I feel a real difference if I go with one over the other?

Thanks for your opinions and knowledge.

Max in Boston

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[RBW] Re: How you choose 2 Rivendells?

[Masa]

Hi JP, I can't take out my eyes off not only your bikes but records too!
I think we have more than one thing in common:)

Masa

2022年12月9日金曜日 3:33:08 UTC+9 MoVelo:

> [image: Rambo1.jpg]Late to the party but these two have kept me happy.
>
> [image: Lego1.jpg]
>
> @Max B; I was really struck with how close your Leoglas is to mine. I 
> usually run Chris King hubs laced to Pacneti rims with RH 700x38s, but am 
> trying some slightly wider rubber here. 
>
> Cheers and Happy Holiday!
>
> JP
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 12:05:10 PM UTC-6 J wrote:
>
>> John- thanks for that GaiaGPS link. It's the first time I've seen it 
>> after hearing about it for years, it's a really nice set up. I really like 
>> how if you are just scrolling though photos it is simultaneously moving 
>> your point on the route as well in the background. Looks like a lovely 
>> ride. 
>>
>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 12:00:39 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Masa-san,
>>>
>>> You are lucky, indeed! Blue Lug is such a great shop; there are so many 
>>> beautiful bikes and fine parts to enjoy. 
>>>
>>> I rode to Shikoku on the Shimanami-kaido from Onomichi. This is a 
>>> spectacular way to go there. You must try it sometime. Here are GaiaGPS 
>>> tracks and photos 
>>>  if you are 
>>> interested.
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 5:18:42 AM UTC-8 Masa wrote:
>>>
 John, it was actually you and your Hunq on the blog post! I have been 
 to Shikoku for a holiday by the public transportations but it must be 
 amazing to ride there. I'm glad that you could see many beautiful places 
 here in Japan.

 Luckily Blue Lug is my local bike shop so it didn't take long for me to 
 be a Riv fan!

 Masa

 2022年12月8日木曜日 3:28:02 UTC+9 John Rinker:

> Yes, Masa, I lived in Yokohama for a couple of years and had the very 
> good fortune to ride in many beautiful places in Japan. Yakushima and 
> Shikoku were my favorites! And, you are not mistaken, Chuyan at Blue Lug 
> Hatagaya took some photos of my bike one day, so he must have posted them 
> on the blog. Great bike shop with friendly, helpful staff. Another 
> favorite 
> of mine. 
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 5:10:29 AM UTC-8 Masa wrote:
>
>> It's really interesting to read how people are enjoying/planning to 
>> ride 2 Rivendells! 
>> It seems like most of you have 2 different type Rivs for different 
>> occasions as I was vaguely imaging for my future as well.
>>
>> As Keith pointed out the tricky point is that if you get second bike 
>> for a different purpose which you barely have chances to go, you will 
>> end 
>> up to ride just one but not both of them. 
>> That made me think that I should get the second Riv if I "need" it 
>> while I got my first one mostly because I did "want" it.
>> (Well it's really hard to separate these feelings though)
>> Anyway I am going to ride my Platypus as much as possible for now and 
>> will see if I need another one:)
>>
>> Otherwise actually it's a really simple thing. Having 2 bikes you 
>> really love and "ride all the time and alternate daily" as John said.
>> John, if I'm not mistaken I have seen your Hunq on Blue Lug's blog 
>> before. You have lived in Japan? The Hunq and the Atlantis are both so 
>> beautiful!
>>
>> Masa 
>> 2022年12月7日水曜日 17:55:05 UTC+9 Luke Hendrickson:
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> What a two bike collection you have! Since I have the Riv I’ve 
>>> always wanted (Atlantis), now I’m yearning for a Hunq. Such a lovely, 
>>> lugged beaut. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 11:34:11 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 Hey Masa, 

 I'm stoked to own two Rivs- a Waterford Hunqapillar and a Toyo 
 Atlantis. 

 The Hunq was my first bike from Rivendell which I bought new in 
 2015. I had the great pleasure of working with Keven M on ordering and 
 dialing the bike in. Right out of the box it was a go-anywhere, 
 do-anything 
 bike, and it has been tested to its limits all over the world. Or, 
 should I 
 say, it has tested my limits! This is the One-Bike-To-Rule-Them-All as 
 far 
 as I'm concerned. 
 [image: IMG_6440.jpeg]

 I was fortunate enough to find a Toyo Atlantis a couple of summers 
 ago in this group. I chose the Atlantis because I still wanted a 
 trail-worthy bike that could handle a load, but also one that could be 
 pared down for a lighter, more nimble ride. Further, I wanted a bike 
 made 
 in Japan by Toyo because...well...because of my love affair with 
 Japanese 
 dedication to 

[RBW] Re: How you choose 2 Rivendells?

[Masa]

Hi Bill, you enjoy riding all the Rivendells for each purpose and I admire 
it!
The other day I saw an orange Hubbuhubbuh at Blue Lug Kamiuma branch and it 
was already sold.
I hope to see the tandem bike is running in Tokyo very soon because tandems 
are not so common here.

I like to see people are riding Rivendells in a lot countries too! It's 
amazing to see that one bike makes so many people happy.

Masa 
2022年12月9日金曜日 3:02:59 UTC+9 Bill Rhea:

> Hi Masa,
>
> Funny I was thinking of this the other day... What if I could keep just 
> one of my Riv bikes?
>
> I would have to go with the first generation, grey/red 62cm Waterford 
> Hunquapillar.  Day night, rain shine, commuting, long multi-day tours or 
> grocery runs... Always comfortable, reliable, and fun!  Has more miles on 
> it than any other in my fleet 
>
> After that I'd have to say my first gen, Toyo AHH.  This is my winter road 
> bike, with fenders, Schmidt generator light and French-style handlebar bag 
> on the Mark's rack with a VO decaleur.  Ready for all conditions, but for 
> light loads on long day rides.
>
> Others in the fleet (yeah, I know, I've got a condition here...).  I build 
> this up over 30 years, but what can I say?  I like Grant's bikes!
>
> 63 cm Romulus with Gran Comp centerpull brakes, no racks, 38c tires.  My 
> summer road bike that's also great on dirt roads
> 64cm Quickbeam with Bertoud steel fenders, with a Sturmey Archer S3X hub.  
> My commuter of many years but less practical now that I live in super hilly 
> area in Napa
> Size XL Susie/Wolbis with a fillet faceplate Nitto stem and Tosco 
> extra-wide bars. My off road "klunker" but also great on the super steep, 
> beat-up roads in my area
> Size M orange Hubbuhubbuh. The.Best.Tandem.Ever
> 59cm orange XO1 with a looong Nitto MTB stem from the 80's and Albatross 
> bars (my stepson has it now). Always was a little small for me, but got 
> ridden tons back in the day
>
> I love seeing all the photos from BlueLug, RivSoc, and all the Japanese 
> Riv enthusiasts on IG!  Makes the world feel a lot smaller!
>
> Cheers,
>
> -br
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:52:42 PM UTC-8 Masa wrote:
>
>> Hi all, I would like to ask you how you would choose 2 Rivendells if you 
>> could own.
>>
>> Which models? What kind of purposes? What kind of weather? What kind of 
>> roads? Any definition is welcome.
>>
>> I'm currently riding a Platypus and I feel like I can ride it everywhere 
>> for any purpose as Riv says it's an All-rounder so I just would like to 
>> know how you would add one more Riv or how you are riding 2 Rivs already as 
>> a reference (possibly for my future 2nd Riv).
>>
>> I hope you enjoy the topic!
>>
>> Masa
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: How you choose 2 Rivendells?

[Masa]

John san, thank you for sharing the tracks and photos! I just saw the first 
ones and these were amazing. I will check the rest later.
Bicycles were only tool for me before but now they are something makes me 
happy and I care about so yes I'm sure that I'm interested in long distance 
rides!

Masa

2022年12月9日金曜日 2:00:39 UTC+9 John Rinker:

> Hey Masa-san,
>
> You are lucky, indeed! Blue Lug is such a great shop; there are so many 
> beautiful bikes and fine parts to enjoy. 
>
> I rode to Shikoku on the Shimanami-kaido from Onomichi. This is a 
> spectacular way to go there. You must try it sometime. Here are GaiaGPS 
> tracks and photos 
>  if you are 
> interested.
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 5:18:42 AM UTC-8 Masa wrote:
>
>> John, it was actually you and your Hunq on the blog post! I have been to 
>> Shikoku for a holiday by the public transportations but it must be amazing 
>> to ride there. I'm glad that you could see many beautiful places here in 
>> Japan.
>>
>> Luckily Blue Lug is my local bike shop so it didn't take long for me to 
>> be a Riv fan!
>>
>> Masa
>>
>> 2022年12月8日木曜日 3:28:02 UTC+9 John Rinker:
>>
>>> Yes, Masa, I lived in Yokohama for a couple of years and had the very 
>>> good fortune to ride in many beautiful places in Japan. Yakushima and 
>>> Shikoku were my favorites! And, you are not mistaken, Chuyan at Blue Lug 
>>> Hatagaya took some photos of my bike one day, so he must have posted them 
>>> on the blog. Great bike shop with friendly, helpful staff. Another favorite 
>>> of mine. 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 5:10:29 AM UTC-8 Masa wrote:
>>>
 It's really interesting to read how people are enjoying/planning to 
 ride 2 Rivendells! 
 It seems like most of you have 2 different type Rivs for different 
 occasions as I was vaguely imaging for my future as well.

 As Keith pointed out the tricky point is that if you get second bike 
 for a different purpose which you barely have chances to go, you will end 
 up to ride just one but not both of them. 
 That made me think that I should get the second Riv if I "need" it 
 while I got my first one mostly because I did "want" it.
 (Well it's really hard to separate these feelings though)
 Anyway I am going to ride my Platypus as much as possible for now and 
 will see if I need another one:)

 Otherwise actually it's a really simple thing. Having 2 bikes you 
 really love and "ride all the time and alternate daily" as John said.
 John, if I'm not mistaken I have seen your Hunq on Blue Lug's blog 
 before. You have lived in Japan? The Hunq and the Atlantis are both so 
 beautiful!

 Masa 
 2022年12月7日水曜日 17:55:05 UTC+9 Luke Hendrickson:

> John,
>
> What a two bike collection you have! Since I have the Riv I’ve always 
> wanted (Atlantis), now I’m yearning for a Hunq. Such a lovely, lugged 
> beaut. 
>
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 11:34:11 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Hey Masa, 
>>
>> I'm stoked to own two Rivs- a Waterford Hunqapillar and a Toyo 
>> Atlantis. 
>>
>> The Hunq was my first bike from Rivendell which I bought new in 2015. 
>> I had the great pleasure of working with Keven M on ordering and dialing 
>> the bike in. Right out of the box it was a go-anywhere, do-anything 
>> bike, 
>> and it has been tested to its limits all over the world. Or, should I 
>> say, 
>> it has tested my limits! This is the One-Bike-To-Rule-Them-All as far as 
>> I'm concerned. 
>> [image: IMG_6440.jpeg]
>>
>> I was fortunate enough to find a Toyo Atlantis a couple of summers 
>> ago in this group. I chose the Atlantis because I still wanted a 
>> trail-worthy bike that could handle a load, but also one that could be 
>> pared down for a lighter, more nimble ride. Further, I wanted a bike 
>> made 
>> in Japan by Toyo because...well...because of my love affair with 
>> Japanese 
>> dedication to craftsmanship. It's a beautiful bicycle that provides a 
>> dreamy ride. 
>> [image: Atlantis in the Snow.JPG]
>>
>> As far as the problem of bikes not being ridden enough is concerned, 
>> my solution has been to ride all the time and alternate daily- when the 
>> Hunq rolls on Monday, then the Atlantis rocks on Tuesday.
>>
>> Cheers, John
>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:27:33 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I feel very happy with my 2 Rivendell bikes stable. I use my Clem H 
>>> everyday for groceries and towing my daughter around (studded tires 
>>> with 
>>> fenders now). It could easily be stripped down and be a fantastic dirt 
>>> road 
>>> exploration bike, but I am fortunate to have a Susie for that and the 
>>> Susie 

Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

[Paul Clifton]

There is what appears to be a first gen Hillborne  on the Atlanta 
Craigslist. Nice build. I wonder who's it is: 
https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/bik/d/decatur-rivendell-hillborne-blue-and/7565756188.html

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 5:12:29 PM UTC-6 leva...@gmail.com wrote:

> The HiHo silver looks wonderful, and will be a neutral enough palette to 
> absorb plenty of colorful bits.  It is nice to see a different color on the 
> Sam.  I’ve seen the LimeOlive on the Clem L, and it is dazzling in 
> sunlight.  Both color options play well with the cream highlight paint, and 
> you can hardly go wrong with either.  Looks like only the 57 in LimeOlive 
> has sold out at this point.  HiHo……!
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 3:56:36 PM UTC-7 Drew Henson wrote:
>
>> props to Riv for getting my frame shipped already! i'm sure they have a 
>> long list to go through.
>>
>> too bad it'll be a while before i can get it rolling but i love picking 
>> out components.
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 4:10:04 PM UTC-8 Drew Henson wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry about that! I based my decision with my experience with the fit of 
>>> my 2019 58cm Homer. The 57 cm sam has a longer reach/effective top tube 
>>> than my homer and i wouldn't have been able to use drop bars i don't think 
>>> (but swept back bars would easily work).  
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 1:52:50 PM UTC-8 ccf...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Keith,
 If you click on a size and color and then put in a high quantity, it 
 will tell you that you can only add so many to your cart. 

 On Wed, Dec 7, 2022, 4:46 PM Keith Paugh  wrote:

> Out of curiosity, how’d did up that info?
>
> k.
>
> On Dec 7, 2022, at 12:55 PM, DavidP  wrote:
>
> Here's what's left after ~50 minutes:
> 48cm, 1 silver, 6 olive
> 51cm, 5 silver, 8 olive
> 54cm, 1 silver, 5 olive
> 57cm, 1 silver, 1 olive
> 60cm, 6 silver, 6 olive
>
> Seem to be selling way faster than the Platys (assuming a similar # of 
> frames available, which seems reasonable as I believe they've said this 
> is 
> the most popular model). And if colors are equal silver is very popular.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:30:11 PM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> Might have been me?
>>
>> I got a Silver 54 as well. First Riv. 
>> Excited and relieved.
>>
>> I wonder how they are moving this round.
>> k.
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2022, at 12:21 PM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Nice Drew.  I nabbed a 54cm Silver as well.  Already spoke with 
>> Vince.  Since their parts bin is deeper than mine I am going to have 
>> them 
>> build it up and leave my RB-1 shiny bits where they are.  #2 in line.  
>> Someone out there is faaat.  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:16:25 PM UTC-5 Drew Henson wrote:
>>
>>> just grabbed a 54cm silver. i went into thinking i'd go for a 
>>> limeolive but something about the very understated silver made me 
>>> change my 
>>> mind at the last minute.
>>>
>>> i have an 87 cm pbh so i could have fit the 57 but i wanted to fall 
>>> on the upper end of the fit range. really keen to see how this rides 
>>> differently than my 2019 MIT Homer. now the fun begins... finding all 
>>> the 
>>> build parts!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 5:59:19 PM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I’m with you Eric.  My Saluki which I got last winter is a taupe 
 and it looks great with brown and grays.  If I was ready to sell my 
 Hillborne I would order a Silver tomorrow.  But it makes no sense.  If 
 someone was hot for a bright orange I could be tempted.  

 On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 6:58 PM Eric Marth  
 wrote:

> Joel — I might be forgetting a color here or there but... I think 
> these new ones plus the black are my favorite paint colors for all 
> the 
> Hillbornes :) 
>
> I think these new colors will look especially good with some kinda 
> warm-tones saddle (tan, brown), nice big tires with gum sidewalls and 
> warm 
> bar tape and grips! Subtle, timeless warmth. Just me, that's my 
> thing, 
> maxing out the neutrals. 
>
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:05:44 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Eric, I agree.  I do like the blue, have an Orange that I bought 
>> as it was the only one I could find when Riv was out, it is ok but 
>> not my 
>> favorite color. Love that new Silver.  My favorite colors are the 
>> Black 
>> (like your repainted one) and the new Silver, absolutely beautiful 
>> colors. 
>> 

Re: [RBW] If you convince Rivendell to bring back "one" former model

[Bill Fulford]

Bombadil, no question.

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 7:33:51 PM UTC-5 four...@gmail.com wrote:

> hands down, a Legolas.. ideally a Taiwan-made frame to save a little coin..
>
> I just picked up a new-to-me Rambouillet, so I'm covered there for now.. 
> :) 
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 3:12:54 PM UTC-8 jackd...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> My Hunqapillar is the favorite in the stable, but I think a case can 
>> really be made to bring back the Bleriot. Classic geometry, MIT (I believe) 
>> to keep the price reasonable, and I'd argue that the decal 
>>  is the best Riv 
>> has done. 
>>
>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 2:55:32 PM UTC-8 Drew Henson wrote:
>>
>>> legolas OR a more classically styled country bike with close to level 
>>> top tube and shorter chain stays
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 2:16:03 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>>>
 I vote long stay version of Glorious and Hunqapillar in CLEAR COAT...

 I hope Grant is listening

 On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 03:11:33 PM MST, Mackenzy Albright <
 mackenzy...@gmail.com> wrote: 


 All these threads about "choosing the one Riv" or "how do I pick which 
 model" got me thinking. If you could convince Rivendell to resurrect one 
 out of production modelwhich would you choose? 

 After acquiring a Clementine after a new Clem Smith Jr, I see merit of 
 the geometry of the Clementine as a standalone step through that feels 
 like 
 a long wheelbase agile bike rather than a floaty surfboard. I absolutely 
 adore both-but they're extraordinarily different, despite being a natural 
 and logical evolution. I really enjoyed the reference of the thread "a 
 tale 
 of two clems" by Ding Ding! as I found similarities in my experience. 

 The evolution of Rivendell's is absolutely fascinating to me as there 
 has never been a hang up for changing tried and true models. XO-1 - ALL 
 Rounder - TOYO Atlantis - MUSA Atlantis - MIT Atlantis. People are still 
 obsessive with each rendition of a concept over its evolution. 


 SOoo long story short. I would choose the Hunqapillar. Hands down. 

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Re: [RBW] If you convince Rivendell to bring back "one" former model

[Chris Fly]

hands down, a Legolas.. ideally a Taiwan-made frame to save a little coin..

I just picked up a new-to-me Rambouillet, so I'm covered there for now.. :) 

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 3:12:54 PM UTC-8 jackd...@gmail.com wrote:

> My Hunqapillar is the favorite in the stable, but I think a case can 
> really be made to bring back the Bleriot. Classic geometry, MIT (I believe) 
> to keep the price reasonable, and I'd argue that the decal 
>  is the best Riv 
> has done. 
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 2:55:32 PM UTC-8 Drew Henson wrote:
>
>> legolas OR a more classically styled country bike with close to level top 
>> tube and shorter chain stays
>>
>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 2:16:03 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>>
>>> I vote long stay version of Glorious and Hunqapillar in CLEAR COAT...
>>>
>>> I hope Grant is listening
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 03:11:33 PM MST, Mackenzy Albright <
>>> mackenzy...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> All these threads about "choosing the one Riv" or "how do I pick which 
>>> model" got me thinking. If you could convince Rivendell to resurrect one 
>>> out of production modelwhich would you choose? 
>>>
>>> After acquiring a Clementine after a new Clem Smith Jr, I see merit of 
>>> the geometry of the Clementine as a standalone step through that feels like 
>>> a long wheelbase agile bike rather than a floaty surfboard. I absolutely 
>>> adore both-but they're extraordinarily different, despite being a natural 
>>> and logical evolution. I really enjoyed the reference of the thread "a tale 
>>> of two clems" by Ding Ding! as I found similarities in my experience. 
>>>
>>> The evolution of Rivendell's is absolutely fascinating to me as there 
>>> has never been a hang up for changing tried and true models. XO-1 - ALL 
>>> Rounder - TOYO Atlantis - MUSA Atlantis - MIT Atlantis. People are still 
>>> obsessive with each rendition of a concept over its evolution. 
>>>
>>>
>>> SOoo long story short. I would choose the Hunqapillar. Hands down. 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] If you convince Rivendell to bring back "one" former model

[Jack Doran]

My Hunqapillar is the favorite in the stable, but I think a case can really 
be made to bring back the Bleriot. Classic geometry, MIT (I believe) to 
keep the price reasonable, and I'd argue that the decal 
 is the best Riv has 
done. 

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 2:55:32 PM UTC-8 Drew Henson wrote:

> legolas OR a more classically styled country bike with close to level top 
> tube and shorter chain stays
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 2:16:03 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>
>> I vote long stay version of Glorious and Hunqapillar in CLEAR COAT...
>>
>> I hope Grant is listening
>>
>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 03:11:33 PM MST, Mackenzy Albright <
>> mackenzy...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> All these threads about "choosing the one Riv" or "how do I pick which 
>> model" got me thinking. If you could convince Rivendell to resurrect one 
>> out of production modelwhich would you choose? 
>>
>> After acquiring a Clementine after a new Clem Smith Jr, I see merit of 
>> the geometry of the Clementine as a standalone step through that feels like 
>> a long wheelbase agile bike rather than a floaty surfboard. I absolutely 
>> adore both-but they're extraordinarily different, despite being a natural 
>> and logical evolution. I really enjoyed the reference of the thread "a tale 
>> of two clems" by Ding Ding! as I found similarities in my experience. 
>>
>> The evolution of Rivendell's is absolutely fascinating to me as there has 
>> never been a hang up for changing tried and true models. XO-1 - ALL Rounder 
>> - TOYO Atlantis - MUSA Atlantis - MIT Atlantis. People are still obsessive 
>> with each rendition of a concept over its evolution. 
>>
>>
>> SOoo long story short. I would choose the Hunqapillar. Hands down. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

[Guy LeVan]

The HiHo silver looks wonderful, and will be a neutral enough palette to 
absorb plenty of colorful bits.  It is nice to see a different color on the 
Sam.  I’ve seen the LimeOlive on the Clem L, and it is dazzling in 
sunlight.  Both color options play well with the cream highlight paint, and 
you can hardly go wrong with either.  Looks like only the 57 in LimeOlive 
has sold out at this point.  HiHo……!

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 3:56:36 PM UTC-7 Drew Henson wrote:

> props to Riv for getting my frame shipped already! i'm sure they have a 
> long list to go through.
>
> too bad it'll be a while before i can get it rolling but i love picking 
> out components.
>
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 4:10:04 PM UTC-8 Drew Henson wrote:
>
>> Sorry about that! I based my decision with my experience with the fit of 
>> my 2019 58cm Homer. The 57 cm sam has a longer reach/effective top tube 
>> than my homer and i wouldn't have been able to use drop bars i don't think 
>> (but swept back bars would easily work).  
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 1:52:50 PM UTC-8 ccf...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Keith,
>>> If you click on a size and color and then put in a high quantity, it 
>>> will tell you that you can only add so many to your cart. 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022, 4:46 PM Keith Paugh  wrote:
>>>
 Out of curiosity, how’d did up that info?

 k.

 On Dec 7, 2022, at 12:55 PM, DavidP  wrote:

 Here's what's left after ~50 minutes:
 48cm, 1 silver, 6 olive
 51cm, 5 silver, 8 olive
 54cm, 1 silver, 5 olive
 57cm, 1 silver, 1 olive
 60cm, 6 silver, 6 olive

 Seem to be selling way faster than the Platys (assuming a similar # of 
 frames available, which seems reasonable as I believe they've said this is 
 the most popular model). And if colors are equal silver is very popular.

 -Dave

 On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:30:11 PM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:

> Might have been me?
>
> I got a Silver 54 as well. First Riv. 
> Excited and relieved.
>
> I wonder how they are moving this round.
> k.
>
> On Dec 7, 2022, at 12:21 PM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Nice Drew.  I nabbed a 54cm Silver as well.  Already spoke with 
> Vince.  Since their parts bin is deeper than mine I am going to have them 
> build it up and leave my RB-1 shiny bits where they are.  #2 in line.  
> Someone out there is faaat.  :-)
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:16:25 PM UTC-5 Drew Henson wrote:
>
>> just grabbed a 54cm silver. i went into thinking i'd go for a 
>> limeolive but something about the very understated silver made me change 
>> my 
>> mind at the last minute.
>>
>> i have an 87 cm pbh so i could have fit the 57 but i wanted to fall 
>> on the upper end of the fit range. really keen to see how this rides 
>> differently than my 2019 MIT Homer. now the fun begins... finding all 
>> the 
>> build parts!
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 5:59:19 PM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m with you Eric.  My Saluki which I got last winter is a taupe and 
>>> it looks great with brown and grays.  If I was ready to sell my 
>>> Hillborne I 
>>> would order a Silver tomorrow.  But it makes no sense.  If someone was 
>>> hot 
>>> for a bright orange I could be tempted.  
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 6:58 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
 Joel — I might be forgetting a color here or there but... I think 
 these new ones plus the black are my favorite paint colors for all the 
 Hillbornes :) 

 I think these new colors will look especially good with some kinda 
 warm-tones saddle (tan, brown), nice big tires with gum sidewalls and 
 warm 
 bar tape and grips! Subtle, timeless warmth. Just me, that's my thing, 
 maxing out the neutrals. 

 On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:05:44 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Eric, I agree.  I do like the blue, have an Orange that I bought 
> as it was the only one I could find when Riv was out, it is ok but 
> not my 
> favorite color. Love that new Silver.  My favorite colors are the 
> Black 
> (like your repainted one) and the new Silver, absolutely beautiful 
> colors. 
> There are probably others I have not seen but that silver has my 
> vote. 
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 12:22 PM Eric Marth  
> wrote:
>
>> I'll be interested to see how quickly these move. The Hillbornes 
>> are such great bikes, adaptable for many purposes. I could 
>> definitely see 
>> the paint colors this round getting buyers excited. Nothing against 

Re: [RBW] If you convince Rivendell to bring back "one" former model

[Slin]

This never made it to be an official model, but I would love to have the 
Riv Kids bike back. 

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 3:07:33 PM UTC-8 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I have loads of favorites but honestly most of them are covered with a 
> current variation.
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 5:55:32 PM UTC-5 Drew Henson wrote:
>
>> legolas OR a more classically styled country bike with close to level top 
>> tube and shorter chain stays
>>
>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 2:16:03 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>>
>>> I vote long stay version of Glorious and Hunqapillar in CLEAR COAT...
>>>
>>> I hope Grant is listening
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 03:11:33 PM MST, Mackenzy Albright <
>>> mackenzy...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> All these threads about "choosing the one Riv" or "how do I pick which 
>>> model" got me thinking. If you could convince Rivendell to resurrect one 
>>> out of production modelwhich would you choose? 
>>>
>>> After acquiring a Clementine after a new Clem Smith Jr, I see merit of 
>>> the geometry of the Clementine as a standalone step through that feels like 
>>> a long wheelbase agile bike rather than a floaty surfboard. I absolutely 
>>> adore both-but they're extraordinarily different, despite being a natural 
>>> and logical evolution. I really enjoyed the reference of the thread "a tale 
>>> of two clems" by Ding Ding! as I found similarities in my experience. 
>>>
>>> The evolution of Rivendell's is absolutely fascinating to me as there 
>>> has never been a hang up for changing tried and true models. XO-1 - ALL 
>>> Rounder - TOYO Atlantis - MUSA Atlantis - MIT Atlantis. People are still 
>>> obsessive with each rendition of a concept over its evolution. 
>>>
>>>
>>> SOoo long story short. I would choose the Hunqapillar. Hands down. 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] If you convince Rivendell to bring back "one" former model

[Johnny Alien]

I have loads of favorites but honestly most of them are covered with a 
current variation.

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 5:55:32 PM UTC-5 Drew Henson wrote:

> legolas OR a more classically styled country bike with close to level top 
> tube and shorter chain stays
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 2:16:03 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>
>> I vote long stay version of Glorious and Hunqapillar in CLEAR COAT...
>>
>> I hope Grant is listening
>>
>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 03:11:33 PM MST, Mackenzy Albright <
>> mackenzy...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> All these threads about "choosing the one Riv" or "how do I pick which 
>> model" got me thinking. If you could convince Rivendell to resurrect one 
>> out of production modelwhich would you choose? 
>>
>> After acquiring a Clementine after a new Clem Smith Jr, I see merit of 
>> the geometry of the Clementine as a standalone step through that feels like 
>> a long wheelbase agile bike rather than a floaty surfboard. I absolutely 
>> adore both-but they're extraordinarily different, despite being a natural 
>> and logical evolution. I really enjoyed the reference of the thread "a tale 
>> of two clems" by Ding Ding! as I found similarities in my experience. 
>>
>> The evolution of Rivendell's is absolutely fascinating to me as there has 
>> never been a hang up for changing tried and true models. XO-1 - ALL Rounder 
>> - TOYO Atlantis - MUSA Atlantis - MIT Atlantis. People are still obsessive 
>> with each rendition of a concept over its evolution. 
>>
>>
>> SOoo long story short. I would choose the Hunqapillar. Hands down. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillbornes

[Drew Henson]

props to Riv for getting my frame shipped already! i'm sure they have a 
long list to go through.

too bad it'll be a while before i can get it rolling but i love picking out 
components.

On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 4:10:04 PM UTC-8 Drew Henson wrote:

> Sorry about that! I based my decision with my experience with the fit of 
> my 2019 58cm Homer. The 57 cm sam has a longer reach/effective top tube 
> than my homer and i wouldn't have been able to use drop bars i don't think 
> (but swept back bars would easily work).  
>
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 1:52:50 PM UTC-8 ccf...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Keith,
>> If you click on a size and color and then put in a high quantity, it will 
>> tell you that you can only add so many to your cart. 
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022, 4:46 PM Keith Paugh  wrote:
>>
>>> Out of curiosity, how’d did up that info?
>>>
>>> k.
>>>
>>> On Dec 7, 2022, at 12:55 PM, DavidP  wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's what's left after ~50 minutes:
>>> 48cm, 1 silver, 6 olive
>>> 51cm, 5 silver, 8 olive
>>> 54cm, 1 silver, 5 olive
>>> 57cm, 1 silver, 1 olive
>>> 60cm, 6 silver, 6 olive
>>>
>>> Seem to be selling way faster than the Platys (assuming a similar # of 
>>> frames available, which seems reasonable as I believe they've said this is 
>>> the most popular model). And if colors are equal silver is very popular.
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:30:11 PM UTC-5 Keith P. wrote:
>>>
 Might have been me?

 I got a Silver 54 as well. First Riv. 
 Excited and relieved.

 I wonder how they are moving this round.
 k.

 On Dec 7, 2022, at 12:21 PM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 Nice Drew.  I nabbed a 54cm Silver as well.  Already spoke with 
 Vince.  Since their parts bin is deeper than mine I am going to have them 
 build it up and leave my RB-1 shiny bits where they are.  #2 in line.  
 Someone out there is faaat.  :-)



 On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 3:16:25 PM UTC-5 Drew Henson wrote:

> just grabbed a 54cm silver. i went into thinking i'd go for a 
> limeolive but something about the very understated silver made me change 
> my 
> mind at the last minute.
>
> i have an 87 cm pbh so i could have fit the 57 but i wanted to fall on 
> the upper end of the fit range. really keen to see how this rides 
> differently than my 2019 MIT Homer. now the fun begins... finding all the 
> build parts!
>
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 5:59:19 PM UTC-8 jrst...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I’m with you Eric.  My Saluki which I got last winter is a taupe and 
>> it looks great with brown and grays.  If I was ready to sell my 
>> Hillborne I 
>> would order a Silver tomorrow.  But it makes no sense.  If someone was 
>> hot 
>> for a bright orange I could be tempted.  
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 6:58 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>>> Joel — I might be forgetting a color here or there but... I think 
>>> these new ones plus the black are my favorite paint colors for all the 
>>> Hillbornes :) 
>>>
>>> I think these new colors will look especially good with some kinda 
>>> warm-tones saddle (tan, brown), nice big tires with gum sidewalls and 
>>> warm 
>>> bar tape and grips! Subtle, timeless warmth. Just me, that's my thing, 
>>> maxing out the neutrals. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:05:44 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Eric, I agree.  I do like the blue, have an Orange that I bought as 
 it was the only one I could find when Riv was out, it is ok but not my 
 favorite color. Love that new Silver.  My favorite colors are the 
 Black 
 (like your repainted one) and the new Silver, absolutely beautiful 
 colors. 
 There are probably others I have not seen but that silver has my vote. 

 On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 12:22 PM Eric Marth  
 wrote:

> I'll be interested to see how quickly these move. The Hillbornes 
> are such great bikes, adaptable for many purposes. I could definitely 
> see 
> the paint colors this round getting buyers excited. Nothing against 
> 'em but 
> the RBW blue, orange and harvest gold didn't do much for me. New 
> colors are 
> rel good. 
>
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 11:18:17 AM UTC-5 
> edwardb...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> But that green is causing it to heat back up 
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 8:09 AM Eric Daume  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m with Johnny. I think the market is cooling down. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022, Johnny Alien  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> It will sell well but I don't think we are going 

Re: [RBW] If you convince Rivendell to bring back "one" former model

[Drew Henson]

legolas OR a more classically styled country bike with close to level top 
tube and shorter chain stays

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 2:16:03 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:

> I vote long stay version of Glorious and Hunqapillar in CLEAR COAT...
>
> I hope Grant is listening
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 03:11:33 PM MST, Mackenzy Albright <
> mackenzy...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> All these threads about "choosing the one Riv" or "how do I pick which 
> model" got me thinking. If you could convince Rivendell to resurrect one 
> out of production modelwhich would you choose? 
>
> After acquiring a Clementine after a new Clem Smith Jr, I see merit of the 
> geometry of the Clementine as a standalone step through that feels like a 
> long wheelbase agile bike rather than a floaty surfboard. I absolutely 
> adore both-but they're extraordinarily different, despite being a natural 
> and logical evolution. I really enjoyed the reference of the thread "a tale 
> of two clems" by Ding Ding! as I found similarities in my experience. 
>
> The evolution of Rivendell's is absolutely fascinating to me as there has 
> never been a hang up for changing tried and true models. XO-1 - ALL Rounder 
> - TOYO Atlantis - MUSA Atlantis - MIT Atlantis. People are still obsessive 
> with each rendition of a concept over its evolution. 
>
>
> SOoo long story short. I would choose the Hunqapillar. Hands down. 
>
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[RBW] Re: New Roaduno Dropouts

[iamkeith]

Doh.  You're right - i forgot about that possibility.  I'm so obsessed with 
IGHs, i completely overlooked front-shifting possibilities.

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 3:02:59 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> It's an outlier as far as what most people are looking for in a frame like 
> this, but a member here many years ago put an old rear derailer (Shimano 
> 200GS I think) with a bolt on hanger on a Quickbeam so he could use a 
> wide-range double crank with fd derailer to give it a big top gear plus 
> hill climber granny (it was in a Rivendell Reader). 
>
> I'm guessing after all the 2-speed experiments Grant and Will have done 
> with chain tensioners they figured it couldn't hurt to have the option on 
> RoadUNO. 
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 1:33:14 PM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Makes sense, but it's still curious to me that they only used the Frank 
>> Jones Sr. dropout on that one model.  (Or, maybe a Rosco model, too?).  Im 
>> kind of suspecting that, with 3D design printing capabilities, it might be 
>> just as easy to come up with a new part if and when it is needed.
>>
>> I'm curious to see if this means there'll be some extra cable routing 
>> options on the Roaduno, or if that'll be left to clamp-on devices or zip 
>> ties, for someone who wished to use a derailleur.   Part of the beauty of a 
>> single-speed is the cleanness of not having unused stops.   On the other 
>> hand, I'm brazing on some extra housing stops to my Quickbeam - but for a 
>> Sturmey Archer 3-speed, not a derailleur.
>>
>> The "chain tensioner" feature doesn't make sense to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 6:38:07 AM UTC-7 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>>> I'm also v interested in RoadUno as "my last Riv"... 
>>>
>>> Spec'ing a hanger on these trackends means that Riv can use it for other 
>>> frames-- maybe they'll make a 135-spaced frame using these? Or someone will 
>>> request a custom? 
>>>
>>> That said, these are prototypes, so who knows what will show up in the 
>>> final form. 
>>>
>>> Looking forward to it!
>>>
>>> Anyone ride the prototypes RoadUno frames at RivHQ? How does it compare 
>>> to the Quickbeam? or present offerings? 
>>>
>>> shoji
>>> arlington ma
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 5:05:56 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>>
 The print does say for a chain tensioner or derailleur. That's quite 
 straight forward to me. Sun XCD does make a 120mm cassette hub. Customize 
 your own cog set and there 'ya go. 

 So why call it a Road-UNO ?  Because it can be a seamless single 
 speed and just because it can be used as such doesn't mean it 
 can't/shouldn't have a hanger for a tensioner or derailleur. It adds to 
 the 
 versatility of the frame, very good idea ! Don't let the 
 words/definitions/descriptions yank you're chain, so to speak. 
 On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 10:58:19 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:

> Just dropping a little bomb here to see where the comments lead, for 
> S**ts and giggles, mostly.
>
> The latest blagh shows the 3D printed track dropouts for the new 
> Roaduno. It has a derailleur hanger. For a 120-spaced single speed. 
>
> Comments?
>
> (And to tag onto another posting ("choose two Rivendells") I own 
> several bikes but only one Riv (last release of the Sam Hillborne.) I 
> plan 
> to do everything in my power to snag a purple Roaduno, regardless of 
> dropout style. And at this point in my life that's the last new bike I 
> plan 
> to buy*
>
>
> Mike M
>
> * But who am I fooling?
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] If you convince Rivendell to bring back "one" former model

['Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 I vote long stay version of Glorious and Hunqapillar in CLEAR COAT...
I hope Grant is listening

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 03:11:33 PM MST, Mackenzy Albright 
 wrote:  
 
 All these threads about "choosing the one Riv" or "how do I pick which model" 
got me thinking. If you could convince Rivendell to resurrect one out of 
production modelwhich would you choose? 
After acquiring a Clementine after a new Clem Smith Jr, I see merit of the 
geometry of the Clementine as a standalone step through that feels like a long 
wheelbase agile bike rather than a floaty surfboard. I absolutely adore 
both-but they're extraordinarily different, despite being a natural and logical 
evolution. I really enjoyed the reference of the thread "a tale of two clems" 
by Ding Ding! as I found similarities in my experience. 
The evolution of Rivendell's is absolutely fascinating to me as there has never 
been a hang up for changing tried and true models. XO-1 - ALL Rounder - TOYO 
Atlantis - MUSA Atlantis - MIT Atlantis. People are still obsessive with each 
rendition of a concept over its evolution. 

SOoo long story short. I would choose the Hunqapillar. Hands down. 

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[RBW] If you convince Rivendell to bring back "one" former model

[Mackenzy Albright]

All these threads about "choosing the one Riv" or "how do I pick which 
model" got me thinking. If you could convince Rivendell to resurrect one 
out of production modelwhich would you choose? 

After acquiring a Clementine after a new Clem Smith Jr, I see merit of the 
geometry of the Clementine as a standalone step through that feels like a 
long wheelbase agile bike rather than a floaty surfboard. I absolutely 
adore both-but they're extraordinarily different, despite being a natural 
and logical evolution. I really enjoyed the reference of the thread "a tale 
of two clems" by Ding Ding! as I found similarities in my experience. 

The evolution of Rivendell's is absolutely fascinating to me as there has 
never been a hang up for changing tried and true models. XO-1 - ALL Rounder 
- TOYO Atlantis - MUSA Atlantis - MIT Atlantis. People are still obsessive 
with each rendition of a concept over its evolution. 


SOoo long story short. I would choose the Hunqapillar. Hands down. 

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[RBW] Re: New Roaduno Dropouts

[Joe Bernard]

It's an outlier as far as what most people are looking for in a frame like 
this, but a member here many years ago put an old rear derailer (Shimano 
200GS I think) with a bolt on hanger on a Quickbeam so he could use a 
wide-range double crank with fd derailer to give it a big top gear plus 
hill climber granny (it was in a Rivendell Reader). 

I'm guessing after all the 2-speed experiments Grant and Will have done 
with chain tensioners they figured it couldn't hurt to have the option on 
RoadUNO. 

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 1:33:14 PM UTC-8 iamkeith wrote:

> Makes sense, but it's still curious to me that they only used the Frank 
> Jones Sr. dropout on that one model.  (Or, maybe a Rosco model, too?).  Im 
> kind of suspecting that, with 3D design printing capabilities, it might be 
> just as easy to come up with a new part if and when it is needed.
>
> I'm curious to see if this means there'll be some extra cable routing 
> options on the Roaduno, or if that'll be left to clamp-on devices or zip 
> ties, for someone who wished to use a derailleur.   Part of the beauty of a 
> single-speed is the cleanness of not having unused stops.   On the other 
> hand, I'm brazing on some extra housing stops to my Quickbeam - but for a 
> Sturmey Archer 3-speed, not a derailleur.
>
> The "chain tensioner" feature doesn't make sense to me.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 6:38:07 AM UTC-7 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
>> I'm also v interested in RoadUno as "my last Riv"... 
>>
>> Spec'ing a hanger on these trackends means that Riv can use it for other 
>> frames-- maybe they'll make a 135-spaced frame using these? Or someone will 
>> request a custom? 
>>
>> That said, these are prototypes, so who knows what will show up in the 
>> final form. 
>>
>> Looking forward to it!
>>
>> Anyone ride the prototypes RoadUno frames at RivHQ? How does it compare 
>> to the Quickbeam? or present offerings? 
>>
>> shoji
>> arlington ma
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 5:05:56 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> The print does say for a chain tensioner or derailleur. That's quite 
>>> straight forward to me. Sun XCD does make a 120mm cassette hub. Customize 
>>> your own cog set and there 'ya go. 
>>>
>>> So why call it a Road-UNO ?  Because it can be a seamless single 
>>> speed and just because it can be used as such doesn't mean it 
>>> can't/shouldn't have a hanger for a tensioner or derailleur. It adds to the 
>>> versatility of the frame, very good idea ! Don't let the 
>>> words/definitions/descriptions yank you're chain, so to speak. 
>>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 10:58:19 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>>>
 Just dropping a little bomb here to see where the comments lead, for 
 S**ts and giggles, mostly.

 The latest blagh shows the 3D printed track dropouts for the new 
 Roaduno. It has a derailleur hanger. For a 120-spaced single speed. 

 Comments?

 (And to tag onto another posting ("choose two Rivendells") I own 
 several bikes but only one Riv (last release of the Sam Hillborne.) I plan 
 to do everything in my power to snag a purple Roaduno, regardless of 
 dropout style. And at this point in my life that's the last new bike I 
 plan 
 to buy*


 Mike M

 * But who am I fooling?




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[RBW] Re: New Roaduno Dropouts

[iamkeith]

Another thought:  Does the presence of a hanger mean that the dropout will 
be oriented more horizontally than the QB/SO dropouts?

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 2:33:14 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:

> Makes sense, but it's still curious to me that they only used the Frank 
> Jones Sr. dropout on that one model.  (Or, maybe a Rosco model, too?).  Im 
> kind of suspecting that, with 3D design printing capabilities, it might be 
> just as easy to come up with a new part if and when it is needed.
>
> I'm curious to see if this means there'll be some extra cable routing 
> options on the Roaduno, or if that'll be left to clamp-on devices or zip 
> ties, for someone who wished to use a derailleur.   Part of the beauty of a 
> single-speed is the cleanness of not having unused stops.   On the other 
> hand, I'm brazing on some extra housing stops to my Quickbeam - but for a 
> Sturmey Archer 3-speed, not a derailleur.
>
> The "chain tensioner" feature doesn't make sense to me.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 6:38:07 AM UTC-7 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
>> I'm also v interested in RoadUno as "my last Riv"... 
>>
>> Spec'ing a hanger on these trackends means that Riv can use it for other 
>> frames-- maybe they'll make a 135-spaced frame using these? Or someone will 
>> request a custom? 
>>
>> That said, these are prototypes, so who knows what will show up in the 
>> final form. 
>>
>> Looking forward to it!
>>
>> Anyone ride the prototypes RoadUno frames at RivHQ? How does it compare 
>> to the Quickbeam? or present offerings? 
>>
>> shoji
>> arlington ma
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 5:05:56 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> The print does say for a chain tensioner or derailleur. That's quite 
>>> straight forward to me. Sun XCD does make a 120mm cassette hub. Customize 
>>> your own cog set and there 'ya go. 
>>>
>>> So why call it a Road-UNO ?  Because it can be a seamless single 
>>> speed and just because it can be used as such doesn't mean it 
>>> can't/shouldn't have a hanger for a tensioner or derailleur. It adds to the 
>>> versatility of the frame, very good idea ! Don't let the 
>>> words/definitions/descriptions yank you're chain, so to speak. 
>>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 10:58:19 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>>>
 Just dropping a little bomb here to see where the comments lead, for 
 S**ts and giggles, mostly.

 The latest blagh shows the 3D printed track dropouts for the new 
 Roaduno. It has a derailleur hanger. For a 120-spaced single speed. 

 Comments?

 (And to tag onto another posting ("choose two Rivendells") I own 
 several bikes but only one Riv (last release of the Sam Hillborne.) I plan 
 to do everything in my power to snag a purple Roaduno, regardless of 
 dropout style. And at this point in my life that's the last new bike I 
 plan 
 to buy*


 Mike M

 * But who am I fooling?




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[RBW] Re: New Roaduno Dropouts

[iamkeith]

Makes sense, but it's still curious to me that they only used the Frank 
Jones Sr. dropout on that one model.  (Or, maybe a Rosco model, too?).  Im 
kind of suspecting that, with 3D design printing capabilities, it might be 
just as easy to come up with a new part if and when it is needed.

I'm curious to see if this means there'll be some extra cable routing 
options on the Roaduno, or if that'll be left to clamp-on devices or zip 
ties, for someone who wished to use a derailleur.   Part of the beauty of a 
single-speed is the cleanness of not having unused stops.   On the other 
hand, I'm brazing on some extra housing stops to my Quickbeam - but for a 
Sturmey Archer 3-speed, not a derailleur.

The "chain tensioner" feature doesn't make sense to me.



On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 6:38:07 AM UTC-7 Shoji Takahashi wrote:

> I'm also v interested in RoadUno as "my last Riv"... 
>
> Spec'ing a hanger on these trackends means that Riv can use it for other 
> frames-- maybe they'll make a 135-spaced frame using these? Or someone will 
> request a custom? 
>
> That said, these are prototypes, so who knows what will show up in the 
> final form. 
>
> Looking forward to it!
>
> Anyone ride the prototypes RoadUno frames at RivHQ? How does it compare to 
> the Quickbeam? or present offerings? 
>
> shoji
> arlington ma
>
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 5:05:56 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>
>> The print does say for a chain tensioner or derailleur. That's quite 
>> straight forward to me. Sun XCD does make a 120mm cassette hub. Customize 
>> your own cog set and there 'ya go. 
>>
>> So why call it a Road-UNO ?  Because it can be a seamless single 
>> speed and just because it can be used as such doesn't mean it 
>> can't/shouldn't have a hanger for a tensioner or derailleur. It adds to the 
>> versatility of the frame, very good idea ! Don't let the 
>> words/definitions/descriptions yank you're chain, so to speak. 
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 10:58:19 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>>
>>> Just dropping a little bomb here to see where the comments lead, for 
>>> S**ts and giggles, mostly.
>>>
>>> The latest blagh shows the 3D printed track dropouts for the new 
>>> Roaduno. It has a derailleur hanger. For a 120-spaced single speed. 
>>>
>>> Comments?
>>>
>>> (And to tag onto another posting ("choose two Rivendells") I own several 
>>> bikes but only one Riv (last release of the Sam Hillborne.) I plan to do 
>>> everything in my power to snag a purple Roaduno, regardless of dropout 
>>> style. And at this point in my life that's the last new bike I plan to buy*
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>> * But who am I fooling?
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] For SALE- Fabs Fanny-Waxed Cordura-Tan BAG $155

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Like new.  Used about 300 miles, never in rain, beautiful.(a rub mark where 
you cinch it around stem.)  Never even unfolded the hidden waist straps 
that are nicely tucked into the wool  felted back.  Bright yellow interior. 
 12.5" x 8" x 4.5" (inches)

3 level German-made magnetic snap closure for easy one handed access

-removable and washable merino wool felt pad to microclimate against your 
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-velcro side pockets on both sides large enough for a full sized  phone

-belt tucks neatly behind pad for handlebar use

-included 2 voile 6" nano straps for handlebar mount 

-front zipper pocket

-internal snap pocket

-amost waterproof like most waxed cordura

new on la Ron's site for $175 plus shipping

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Re: [RBW] Is there a 31.8 clamp drop bar comparable to a Nitto Noodle 54cm?

[Conway Bennett]

Scott,

I ride tumbleweed prospector bars for the last 6 months with a discord 
fingerling stem, but I like drops but got used to the width.  I did 
purchase the new 54 cm Nitto noodle, but I have not ridden it yet.  My dark 
horse pick for wide bars is the vo rando bar that comes in 50 cm wide.  
Since I have these, I can't justify the Renee Herse option at 4x the price.



On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 11:57:31 AM UTC-6 Scott wrote:

> Conway, thanks for the tip.
>
> I just looked, and those Ride Farr drops are Supa-Wide...up to 750 mm!
>
> Ima get one on the shipping truck, in addition to the RH Randonneur I 
> ordered prior to reading your post. Options are good, usually. Sometimes I 
> plex too much on options...haha.
>
> Onward,
>
> Scott
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 10:20:38 AM MST, Conway Bennett <
> captaincon...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> I switched to the 31.8 faceplate ecosystem and gave been flirting with the 
> Ride 
> Farr Supa-Wide by Nitto. 
> 
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 10:34:10 AM UTC-6 Scott wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> Are you in same position I am, looking for a 31.8 drop?
>
> Did you see the RH Maes Parallel on the their site?
>
> Thoughts?!
>
> Has anyone else tried the RH Randonneur or Maes Parallel? Takes, please?
>
> Best,
>
> Scott
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 05:37:57 AM MST, Steven Sweedler <
> swee...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Scott, yesterday on the Bob list I asked about comparisons of the Noodle 
> and the RH Randonneur bar that comes in 31.8. The two responders liked both 
> bars and had used them for years. Steve
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 PM 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hey, all:
>
> I'm wanting to try a 54cm Nitto Noodle drop, but I want to keep my 31.8 
> Faceplater to facilitate cockpit changes.
>
> Anyone know of a comparable bar or solution? Maybe I should just get a 
> Noodle and stem for change outs...
>
> Also, am I on the right track going with a Noodle (54cm cuz I'm tall)? I 
> plan on using it as a cockpit option for my Atlantis build.
>
> Happy Holidays,
>
> Scott
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[RBW] Re: How you choose 2 Rivendells?

[J]

John- thanks for that GaiaGPS link. It's the first time I've seen it after 
hearing about it for years, it's a really nice set up. I really like how if 
you are just scrolling though photos it is simultaneously moving your point 
on the route as well in the background. Looks like a lovely ride. 

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 12:00:39 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

> Hey Masa-san,
>
> You are lucky, indeed! Blue Lug is such a great shop; there are so many 
> beautiful bikes and fine parts to enjoy. 
>
> I rode to Shikoku on the Shimanami-kaido from Onomichi. This is a 
> spectacular way to go there. You must try it sometime. Here are GaiaGPS 
> tracks and photos 
>  if you are 
> interested.
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 5:18:42 AM UTC-8 Masa wrote:
>
>> John, it was actually you and your Hunq on the blog post! I have been to 
>> Shikoku for a holiday by the public transportations but it must be amazing 
>> to ride there. I'm glad that you could see many beautiful places here in 
>> Japan.
>>
>> Luckily Blue Lug is my local bike shop so it didn't take long for me to 
>> be a Riv fan!
>>
>> Masa
>>
>> 2022年12月8日木曜日 3:28:02 UTC+9 John Rinker:
>>
>>> Yes, Masa, I lived in Yokohama for a couple of years and had the very 
>>> good fortune to ride in many beautiful places in Japan. Yakushima and 
>>> Shikoku were my favorites! And, you are not mistaken, Chuyan at Blue Lug 
>>> Hatagaya took some photos of my bike one day, so he must have posted them 
>>> on the blog. Great bike shop with friendly, helpful staff. Another favorite 
>>> of mine. 
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 5:10:29 AM UTC-8 Masa wrote:
>>>
 It's really interesting to read how people are enjoying/planning to 
 ride 2 Rivendells! 
 It seems like most of you have 2 different type Rivs for different 
 occasions as I was vaguely imaging for my future as well.

 As Keith pointed out the tricky point is that if you get second bike 
 for a different purpose which you barely have chances to go, you will end 
 up to ride just one but not both of them. 
 That made me think that I should get the second Riv if I "need" it 
 while I got my first one mostly because I did "want" it.
 (Well it's really hard to separate these feelings though)
 Anyway I am going to ride my Platypus as much as possible for now and 
 will see if I need another one:)

 Otherwise actually it's a really simple thing. Having 2 bikes you 
 really love and "ride all the time and alternate daily" as John said.
 John, if I'm not mistaken I have seen your Hunq on Blue Lug's blog 
 before. You have lived in Japan? The Hunq and the Atlantis are both so 
 beautiful!

 Masa 
 2022年12月7日水曜日 17:55:05 UTC+9 Luke Hendrickson:

> John,
>
> What a two bike collection you have! Since I have the Riv I’ve always 
> wanted (Atlantis), now I’m yearning for a Hunq. Such a lovely, lugged 
> beaut. 
>
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 11:34:11 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Hey Masa, 
>>
>> I'm stoked to own two Rivs- a Waterford Hunqapillar and a Toyo 
>> Atlantis. 
>>
>> The Hunq was my first bike from Rivendell which I bought new in 2015. 
>> I had the great pleasure of working with Keven M on ordering and dialing 
>> the bike in. Right out of the box it was a go-anywhere, do-anything 
>> bike, 
>> and it has been tested to its limits all over the world. Or, should I 
>> say, 
>> it has tested my limits! This is the One-Bike-To-Rule-Them-All as far as 
>> I'm concerned. 
>> [image: IMG_6440.jpeg]
>>
>> I was fortunate enough to find a Toyo Atlantis a couple of summers 
>> ago in this group. I chose the Atlantis because I still wanted a 
>> trail-worthy bike that could handle a load, but also one that could be 
>> pared down for a lighter, more nimble ride. Further, I wanted a bike 
>> made 
>> in Japan by Toyo because...well...because of my love affair with 
>> Japanese 
>> dedication to craftsmanship. It's a beautiful bicycle that provides a 
>> dreamy ride. 
>> [image: Atlantis in the Snow.JPG]
>>
>> As far as the problem of bikes not being ridden enough is concerned, 
>> my solution has been to ride all the time and alternate daily- when the 
>> Hunq rolls on Monday, then the Atlantis rocks on Tuesday.
>>
>> Cheers, John
>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:27:33 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I feel very happy with my 2 Rivendell bikes stable. I use my Clem H 
>>> everyday for groceries and towing my daughter around (studded tires 
>>> with 
>>> fenders now). It could easily be stripped down and be a fantastic dirt 
>>> road 
>>> exploration bike, but I am fortunate to have a Susie for that 

[RBW] Re: How you choose 2 Rivendells?

[Bill Rhea]

Hi Masa,

Funny I was thinking of this the other day... What if I could keep just one 
of my Riv bikes?

I would have to go with the first generation, grey/red 62cm Waterford 
Hunquapillar.  Day night, rain shine, commuting, long multi-day tours or 
grocery runs... Always comfortable, reliable, and fun!  Has more miles on 
it than any other in my fleet 

After that I'd have to say my first gen, Toyo AHH.  This is my winter road 
bike, with fenders, Schmidt generator light and French-style handlebar bag 
on the Mark's rack with a VO decaleur.  Ready for all conditions, but for 
light loads on long day rides.

Others in the fleet (yeah, I know, I've got a condition here...).  I build 
this up over 30 years, but what can I say?  I like Grant's bikes!

63 cm Romulus with Gran Comp centerpull brakes, no racks, 38c tires.  My 
summer road bike that's also great on dirt roads
64cm Quickbeam with Bertoud steel fenders, with a Sturmey Archer S3X hub.  
My commuter of many years but less practical now that I live in super hilly 
area in Napa
Size XL Susie/Wolbis with a fillet faceplate Nitto stem and Tosco 
extra-wide bars. My off road "klunker" but also great on the super steep, 
beat-up roads in my area
Size M orange Hubbuhubbuh. The.Best.Tandem.Ever
59cm orange XO1 with a looong Nitto MTB stem from the 80's and Albatross 
bars (my stepson has it now). Always was a little small for me, but got 
ridden tons back in the day

I love seeing all the photos from BlueLug, RivSoc, and all the Japanese Riv 
enthusiasts on IG!  Makes the world feel a lot smaller!

Cheers,

-br



On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 9:52:42 PM UTC-8 Masa wrote:

> Hi all, I would like to ask you how you would choose 2 Rivendells if you 
> could own.
>
> Which models? What kind of purposes? What kind of weather? What kind of 
> roads? Any definition is welcome.
>
> I'm currently riding a Platypus and I feel like I can ride it everywhere 
> for any purpose as Riv says it's an All-rounder so I just would like to 
> know how you would add one more Riv or how you are riding 2 Rivs already as 
> a reference (possibly for my future 2nd Riv).
>
> I hope you enjoy the topic!
>
> Masa
>
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Re: [RBW] Is there a 31.8 clamp drop bar comparable to a Nitto Noodle 54cm?

['Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Conway, thanks for the tip.
I just looked, and those Ride Farr drops are Supa-Wide...up to 750 mm!
Ima get one on the shipping truck, in addition to the RH Randonneur I ordered 
prior to reading your post. Options are good, usually. Sometimes I plex too 
much on options...haha.
Onward,
Scott

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 10:20:38 AM MST, Conway Bennett 
 wrote:  
 
 I switched to the 31.8 faceplate ecosystem and gave been flirting with the 
Ride Farr Supa-Wide by Nitto.

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 10:34:10 AM UTC-6 Scott wrote:

 Steve,
Are you in same position I am, looking for a 31.8 drop?
Did you see the RH Maes Parallel on the their site?
Thoughts?!
Has anyone else tried the RH Randonneur or Maes Parallel? Takes, please?
Best,
Scott

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 05:37:57 AM MST, Steven Sweedler 
 wrote:  
 
 Scott, yesterday on the Bob list I asked about comparisons of the Noodle and 
the RH Randonneur bar that comes in 31.8. The two responders liked both bars 
and had used them for years. Steve
On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 PM 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 wrote:

Hey, all:
I'm wanting to try a 54cm Nitto Noodle drop, but I want to keep my 31.8 
Faceplater to facilitate cockpit changes.

Anyone know of a comparable bar or solution? Maybe I should just get a Noodle 
and stem for change outs...
Also, am I on the right track going with a Noodle (54cm cuz I'm tall)? I plan 
on using it as a cockpit option for my Atlantis build.

Happy Holidays,
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Re: [RBW] Is there a 31.8 clamp drop bar comparable to a Nitto Noodle 54cm?

[Conway Bennett]

I switched to the 31.8 faceplate ecosystem and gave been flirting with the Ride 
Farr Supa-Wide by Nitto. 


On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 10:34:10 AM UTC-6 Scott wrote:

> Steve,
>
> Are you in same position I am, looking for a 31.8 drop?
>
> Did you see the RH Maes Parallel on the their site?
>
> Thoughts?!
>
> Has anyone else tried the RH Randonneur or Maes Parallel? Takes, please?
>
> Best,
>
> Scott
>
> On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 05:37:57 AM MST, Steven Sweedler <
> swee...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Scott, yesterday on the Bob list I asked about comparisons of the Noodle 
> and the RH Randonneur bar that comes in 31.8. The two responders liked both 
> bars and had used them for years. Steve
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 PM 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hey, all:
>
> I'm wanting to try a 54cm Nitto Noodle drop, but I want to keep my 31.8 
> Faceplater to facilitate cockpit changes.
>
> Anyone know of a comparable bar or solution? Maybe I should just get a 
> Noodle and stem for change outs...
>
> Also, am I on the right track going with a Noodle (54cm cuz I'm tall)? I 
> plan on using it as a cockpit option for my Atlantis build.
>
> Happy Holidays,
>
> Scott
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[RBW] Re: How you choose 2 Rivendells?

[John Rinker]

Hey Masa-san,

You are lucky, indeed! Blue Lug is such a great shop; there are so many 
beautiful bikes and fine parts to enjoy. 

I rode to Shikoku on the Shimanami-kaido from Onomichi. This is a 
spectacular way to go there. You must try it sometime. Here are GaiaGPS 
tracks and photos  if 
you are interested.

Cheers, John

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 5:18:42 AM UTC-8 Masa wrote:

> John, it was actually you and your Hunq on the blog post! I have been to 
> Shikoku for a holiday by the public transportations but it must be amazing 
> to ride there. I'm glad that you could see many beautiful places here in 
> Japan.
>
> Luckily Blue Lug is my local bike shop so it didn't take long for me to be 
> a Riv fan!
>
> Masa
>
> 2022年12月8日木曜日 3:28:02 UTC+9 John Rinker:
>
>> Yes, Masa, I lived in Yokohama for a couple of years and had the very 
>> good fortune to ride in many beautiful places in Japan. Yakushima and 
>> Shikoku were my favorites! And, you are not mistaken, Chuyan at Blue Lug 
>> Hatagaya took some photos of my bike one day, so he must have posted them 
>> on the blog. Great bike shop with friendly, helpful staff. Another favorite 
>> of mine. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 5:10:29 AM UTC-8 Masa wrote:
>>
>>> It's really interesting to read how people are enjoying/planning to ride 
>>> 2 Rivendells! 
>>> It seems like most of you have 2 different type Rivs for different 
>>> occasions as I was vaguely imaging for my future as well.
>>>
>>> As Keith pointed out the tricky point is that if you get second bike for 
>>> a different purpose which you barely have chances to go, you will end up to 
>>> ride just one but not both of them. 
>>> That made me think that I should get the second Riv if I "need" it while 
>>> I got my first one mostly because I did "want" it.
>>> (Well it's really hard to separate these feelings though)
>>> Anyway I am going to ride my Platypus as much as possible for now and 
>>> will see if I need another one:)
>>>
>>> Otherwise actually it's a really simple thing. Having 2 bikes you really 
>>> love and "ride all the time and alternate daily" as John said.
>>> John, if I'm not mistaken I have seen your Hunq on Blue Lug's blog 
>>> before. You have lived in Japan? The Hunq and the Atlantis are both so 
>>> beautiful!
>>>
>>> Masa 
>>> 2022年12月7日水曜日 17:55:05 UTC+9 Luke Hendrickson:
>>>
 John,

 What a two bike collection you have! Since I have the Riv I’ve always 
 wanted (Atlantis), now I’m yearning for a Hunq. Such a lovely, lugged 
 beaut. 

 On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 11:34:11 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:

> Hey Masa, 
>
> I'm stoked to own two Rivs- a Waterford Hunqapillar and a Toyo 
> Atlantis. 
>
> The Hunq was my first bike from Rivendell which I bought new in 2015. 
> I had the great pleasure of working with Keven M on ordering and dialing 
> the bike in. Right out of the box it was a go-anywhere, do-anything bike, 
> and it has been tested to its limits all over the world. Or, should I 
> say, 
> it has tested my limits! This is the One-Bike-To-Rule-Them-All as far as 
> I'm concerned. 
> [image: IMG_6440.jpeg]
>
> I was fortunate enough to find a Toyo Atlantis a couple of summers ago 
> in this group. I chose the Atlantis because I still wanted a trail-worthy 
> bike that could handle a load, but also one that could be pared down for 
> a 
> lighter, more nimble ride. Further, I wanted a bike made in Japan by Toyo 
> because...well...because of my love affair with Japanese dedication to 
> craftsmanship. It's a beautiful bicycle that provides a dreamy ride. 
> [image: Atlantis in the Snow.JPG]
>
> As far as the problem of bikes not being ridden enough is concerned, 
> my solution has been to ride all the time and alternate daily- when the 
> Hunq rolls on Monday, then the Atlantis rocks on Tuesday.
>
> Cheers, John
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:27:33 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I feel very happy with my 2 Rivendell bikes stable. I use my Clem H 
>> everyday for groceries and towing my daughter around (studded tires with 
>> fenders now). It could easily be stripped down and be a fantastic dirt 
>> road 
>> exploration bike, but I am fortunate to have a Susie for that and the 
>> Susie 
>> has an incredible ride!I’d love to add something like a Sam for lighter, 
>> quicker rides, but I’m slow on any bike so I doubt it would make a big 
>> difference.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:33:38 PM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Yes...indeed we do, Bill. And all of them have a story
>>>
>>> I do like your thinking
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:10:22 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 Keith articulated a problem 

Re: [RBW] Is there a 31.8 clamp drop bar comparable to a Nitto Noodle 54cm?

['Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Steve,
Are you in same position I am, looking for a 31.8 drop?
Did you see the RH Maes Parallel on the their site?
Thoughts?!
Has anyone else tried the RH Randonneur or Maes Parallel? Takes, please?
Best,
Scott

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 05:37:57 AM MST, Steven Sweedler 
 wrote:  
 
 Scott, yesterday on the Bob list I asked about comparisons of the Noodle and 
the RH Randonneur bar that comes in 31.8. The two responders liked both bars 
and had used them for years. Steve
On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 PM 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 wrote:

Hey, all:
I'm wanting to try a 54cm Nitto Noodle drop, but I want to keep my 31.8 
Faceplater to facilitate cockpit changes.

Anyone know of a comparable bar or solution? Maybe I should just get a Noodle 
and stem for change outs...
Also, am I on the right track going with a Noodle (54cm cuz I'm tall)? I plan 
on using it as a cockpit option for my Atlantis build.

Happy Holidays,
Scott


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Re: [RBW] Re: The do-it-all Rivendell of choice

[Slin]

Leah - yes, in fact, my wife and I would ride the same size frame. :) The 
step-thru frames are so accommodating that way. Part of my hesitation to 
get the frame is because I'm worried I'm pulling a 'Homer Simpson gifting 
Marge a bowling ball' if you get the reference, hah. My wife rides her 
Brompton to commute and it just fits her use so well -- biking to take a 
train and then storing the bike under her desk. 

On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 11:46:40 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> Slin, 
>
> I hope you get one of those bikes because you’re right - they may not be 
> available for a long, long time. The 55s are already gone and only a few of 
> the 50s remain. I used a Betty Foy (the Platypus predecessor) to pull my 
> son with both a bike trailer and later, a tag-along and it did great. Not 
> sure how tall you are but maybe you could ride that Platypus from time to 
> time!
> L
>
> On Dec 7, 2022, at 1:15 PM, Slin  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Thanks, Leah. I'm very close to pulling the trigger on a Platypus frame 
> since they're in stock in a size my wife can ride. And who knows the next 
> time they'll be available!
>
> As for kids bikes, I think it would be too cool to get one of those test 
> Riv kids bikes that were made years back.
>
> S
>
> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 2:00:58 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Look at those yummy babies! I mean, nice Clem, but the babies!!!  
>>
>> Once one has had a Clem with that wonderful step-through tube and the way 
>> way lax geometry, it is hard to replace. I ride my Platypuses nearly 
>> exclusively, but I won’t part with that blue Clem. It’s too good, too 
>> comfortable, and has its own brand of beauty. Someday you might like a 
>> Platy, but it doesn’t have to be at the expense of your Clem. Have both! 
>> And, when those little darlings get bigger, how about a 45 Clem for them? 
>> I’m full of the good ideas.
>>
>> On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 3:27:20 PM UTC-5 Slin wrote:
>>
>>> My answer is my Clem Smith Jr. I've been riding my first and only Riv 
>>> for about a year now and love it. Since I'm on the lighter side, every once 
>>> in a while, I wonder how a not-as-heavy-duty Riv, like a Platypus or AHH 
>>> would be for me. But then it might not work for the 95% of my rides where 
>>> I'm carrying about 60 lbs extra of passengers daily :)
>>>
>>> The step-through frame let me size up so there's no knee interference 
>>> with the front seat when pedaling, plus I can get on and off nice and easy.
>>>
>>> Here it is in Voltron Mode on a foggy day up on Twin Peaks here in SF.
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_0421.jpg]
>>>
>>> Will took it for a spin too:
>>>
>>> [image: 75290007.jpg]
>>> On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 6:31:53 AM UTC-8 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 [image: FAC35277-76B6-4A4C-9309-F0F0D7425C13.jpeg]I do love my Saluki 
 that I was lucky to find last year, same color as Matt’s.  I also have a 
 Hillborne fitted with 48mm tires but I think my vote goes to the Saluki 
 just because of the older styling. 

 On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 7:31:43 PM UTC-5 Matt Beecher wrote:

> I've said it before and will say it again.  The Saluki is the best 
> bike I have ridden.  It goes as fast as I can, is lighter than the 
> Atlantis, can carry more than I have ever tried, takes wide enough tires 
> + 
> fenders, and climbs as well as my lighter bikes.  It was also my 
> introduction to 650B.
>
> The one fault it has is that they are pretty hard to find, so I am not 
> willing to lock it up for more than a couple minutes out of my sight.  
>
> My biggest fault is that I seem to be concerned about exposing it to 
> active rain and salt (snow), but I wish I could break myself of that fear 
> and ride the heck out of it more.  
>
> This one returned to me this year and is the closest of the two in 
> being a beater.  I pamper the purple one still. It now has a dynamo 
> wheelset and a Pass & Stow 3 rail rack.  
>
> [image: IMG_0408.JPG]
>
> Cheers,
> Matt
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is there a 31.8 clamp drop bar comparable to a Nitto Noodle 54cm?

['Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Joe,
Thanks for the info, always welcome...
Scott

On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 11:20:50 PM MST, Joe Bernard 
 wrote:  
 
 They're kinda fiddly but not too bad with an open face stem. I've used the old 
Nitto shims with the squared sharp edges in traditional Technomics/Tallux and 
whatnot and...never again! 

On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 10:06:06 PM UTC-8 zem...@gmail.com wrote:

Agree with Joe. The best 31.8 noodle is a noodle with a shim :)

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 12:55:54 AM UTC-5 Scott wrote:

Thanks, Joe! I'll check out the doohickey...

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 


  On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 9:03 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:  

This doohickey works. I have one in a SOMA open stem holding a 25.4 Billie Bar, 
just make sure you pick the 26.0 version for Noodles. 
Riv only seems to have them in black and it's kind of annoying on my stem cuz 
the face plate has a big-old hole in the front where you can see the shim, but 
the Nitto Face Plater doesn't have that. Maybe someone else sells a silver 
shim. 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/aluminum-handlebar-shim-25-4-or-26-0-to-31-8-wheels-manufacturing

On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 7:07:49 PM UTC-8 Scott wrote:

Hey, all:
I'm wanting to try a 54cm Nitto Noodle drop, but I want to keep my 31.8 
Faceplater to facilitate cockpit changes.

Anyone know of a comparable bar or solution? Maybe I should just get a Noodle 
and stem for change outs...
Also, am I on the right track going with a Noodle (54cm cuz I'm tall)? I plan 
on using it as a cockpit option for my Atlantis build.

Happy Holidays,
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Re: [RBW] Is there a 31.8 clamp drop bar comparable to a Nitto Noodle 54cm?

['Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 Steve,
Thank you! That's exactly the kind of direction I was looking for. I'll have a 
look at the RH Randonneur as a 31.8 option.
Happy Holidays,
Scott

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 05:37:57 AM MST, Steven Sweedler 
 wrote:  
 
 Scott, yesterday on the Bob list I asked about comparisons of the Noodle and 
the RH Randonneur bar that comes in 31.8. The two responders liked both bars 
and had used them for years. Steve
On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 PM 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 wrote:

Hey, all:
I'm wanting to try a 54cm Nitto Noodle drop, but I want to keep my 31.8 
Faceplater to facilitate cockpit changes.

Anyone know of a comparable bar or solution? Maybe I should just get a Noodle 
and stem for change outs...
Also, am I on the right track going with a Noodle (54cm cuz I'm tall)? I plan 
on using it as a cockpit option for my Atlantis build.

Happy Holidays,
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[RBW] Re: For sale: Low pressure gauges (brand new)

[Eric Marth]

Both gauges sold, pending payment. 

On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 9:44:34 AM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> Soo... I somehow ordered three of these great Meiser low pressure 
> gauges. They go up to 60 psi. Far more accurate than a floor pump. Brass, 
> presta valve fitting. 
>
> Brand new in package. One package is a little beat up. 
>
> Say, $12.50 each plus shipping to you? 
>
> [image: IMG_4029.JPG]
>
> [image: IMG_4030.JPG]
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: ROADUNO - a new singlespeed!

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

I like 'em.  I'm certainly curious if the hanger addition will be 
accompanied with any other spec changes like going from 120-130/132.5/135mm 
rear hub spacing or just as a nice option on the 120mm frame.  I recently 
just found a crack on one of my single speeds reducing my fleet to a Clem 
and two old fixer-upper single speeds.  Apparently the cracked frame may be 
repairable but out of warranty so depending on cost for repair plus some 
potential add-ons that would make the repair more worthwhile I'm thinking 
it may be wiser to hold off and just put that towards an eventual Roaduno 
purchase.  Either way, looking forward to see how these turn out.

On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 4:20:52 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The "Quickbeam style ends" were shown on Rivs instagram.  It's a plastic 
> prototype, presumably 3d printed.  They are pretty snazzy and consistent 
> with lots of the "design vernacular" Rivendell has been using in the 
> 2020s.  They are hooded, so it's cheaply tiggable, and leaves tons of 
> freedom on angles.  It's got a der hanger in the casting.  It's got some 
> frills, and looks stout.  I'm eager to see them in metal and on a frame.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 7:21:53 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> That sounds about right to me, Eric.  I'm guessing something that is kind 
>> of like a Leo Roadini with cantilever brakes, clearance for 50mm tires and 
>> Quickbeam-style ends.  I hope it has a long front center to avoid TCO.  My 
>> Crust Florida Man has no TCO with 700x50 tires, and I think that's 
>> awesome.  My 58cm Quickbeam has a tiny bit of TCO with a 700x42 front tire, 
>> and it's annoying.  I'd gladly run a 2cm shorter stem with a 2cm longer 
>> front-center and the same HTA.  
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 6:21:39 AM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> I saw the earlier images, but it’s still not super clear. I’m guessing 
>>> it’s like a long wheelbase-sloping top tube Quickbeam?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 3, 2022, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
 The Roaduno samples are on the boat, at the dock in Oakland this week, 
 so those sample builds will be along soon.  Exciting.

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA

 On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:08:47 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I think the Gallops are 2023 and they have already gone through two 
> proto stages.  I think Roadunos might be further out than that.
>
> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 11:00:35 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> The plan had been that the Prototype Roadunos would be in one of 
>> these Summer Shipments.  I think that the prototype Roadunos maybe were 
>> in 
>> the shipment with the Atlantis' or maybe will be in the next shipment.  
>> Those will be prototypes, so we'll presumably get to see them built up, 
>> and 
>> locals can test ride them.  If there are any final tweaks Riv needs to 
>> make 
>> on the real production Roadunos, they'll find those goofs on the 
>> prototypes.  
>>
>> Then, we'll wait.  I think sometime in early 2023 the production 
>> Roadunos will be buyable by us.  I had been eagerly awaiting the 
>> prototypes 
>> arriving because I am local and was going to give one a test ride.  I 
>> have 
>> managed to acquire a Quickbeam and so I'm not as desperate, but I'm 
>> still 
>> keeping my finger on the pulse.  Folks that are desperate for the 
>> absolute 
>> latest should call Will and ask him.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, July 11, 2022 at 7:16:14 AM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all, I wanted to revive this old thread to see if any one has 
>>> any new information about when the Roaduno might be released for sale. 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 9:27:35 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 This excerpt is from the August 6 newsletter. I'll be shocked (but 
 bake in that I tend towards the skeptical) if we see a Roaduno before 
 2023. 

 - The rest of our orders, most of which we placed in September 
 2020, have been pushed back to 2023. We're still waiting to hear for 
 sure 
 what we can get from our other frame maker - so far all they've said 
 is 
 that they'll try their hardest to get us Homers in July '22, but no 
 word 
 yet on Roadunos, Roadinis, and Gus-n-Susies, which they also make. -

 Joe Bernard

 On Friday, August 27, 2021 at 6:02:30 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey 
 wrote:

> Is there any update on the Roaduno? If there was, I missed it.
>
> ?
>
> M
>
> On Thursday, December 24, 2020 at 3:52:10 PM UTC-5 Philip 
> Williamson wrote:
>
>> How about those 

Re: [RBW] Re: How you choose 2 Rivendells?

[Masa]

Hi Jim, I too am really enjoying this thread to know how the people 
ride/plan their Rivendells!
I can easily tell that how your Rivs are beautiful even from the head 
badges:)

Can I ask you how you describe the feel of the shorter wheelbase Rivs 
please?
Since my only Riv is Platypus which has longer wheelbase and so do majority 
of the current line up of Riv, I'm not familiar with the shorter ones.
The more I like the feel of the longer wheelbase Riv, the more I'm curious 
how is the feel of the shorter ones.
I would like to know how you feel them!

Thanks,
Masa

2022年12月8日木曜日 11:33:57 UTC+9 J J:

> I’m really enjoying this thread! Thanks for initiating it, Masa.
>
> Like John, I have a Waterford Hunqapillar (58) I bought new from 
> Rivendell. Also like John, I have a Toyo Atlantis (61), a recent 
> acquisition. So John's post really resonated. 
>
> [image: Hunqapillar head badge.jpg]
>
> A few weeks ago someone asked me, “Why did you buy an Atlantis if you 
> already have a Hunq?” I really hadn’t thought about that question. I guess 
> the implication was that the two bikes had overlap of purpose. 
>
> To my mind it was more like, why *wouldn’t* I buy the Atlantis? It 
> checked a lot of boxes: Toyo built; fully lugged; quintessential Rivendell; 
> beautiful; robust; classic good looks; the submarine green. 
>
> [image: Atlantis head badge.jpg]
>
> I don’t think anything could replace the Hunq, my true all-rounder. I’d 
> buy another if the bike gods kindly bestowed one on me. There is precedent 
> in my household of having two of the same bike, a Wilbury and a Glorius.
>
> [image: Wilbury head badge.jpg]
>
> [image: Glorius head badge.jpg]
>
> But the more I ride the Atlantis the more I appreciate just how special it 
> is, too. It reminds me of the Hunq in robustness, stability, and lovely 
> ride, but it is more compact and a bit livelier and lighter. And I could 
> load it up if I needed to. I love the feel and aesthetics of the shorter 
> wheelbase Rivs. All Rivs are great no matter where they are produced. 
> There's something distinctive about the Toyo-built Rivs that's hard to pin 
> down. 
>
> Jim
>
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 2:03:24 PM UTC-5 Scott wrote:
>
>> Shoji,
>>
>> Thank you for educating me on Atlantis history and sharing the 
>> article...much appreciated!
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 11:02:01 AM MST, Shoji Takahashi <
>> shoji.t...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Scott,
>> "Atlantis 2" on Rivendell's model is because Bridgestone had an 
>> "Atlantis" model, designed by Hiro Watanabe. 
>>
>> You can read about it in RR35 available here: 
>> http://notfine.com/rivreader/
>>
>> Thanks
>> Shoji
>> Arlington MA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 12:19:56 PM UTC-5 Scott wrote:
>>
>> Affectionately acknowledged, Max. Ride on...
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 10:15:44 AM MST, reynoldslugs <
>> be...@perrylaw.net> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> Scott et al - 
>>
>> correction - sorry, the saddle on the Atlantis is an SMP Avant:
>>
>>
>> https://www.performancebike.com/selle-smp-avant-saddle-black-aisi-304-rails-154mm-zstrikeamne/p1262159?v=531971=Cj0KCQiAkMGcBhCSARIsAIW6d0C4B_hvbJZzbo7h6LftzDSyVysuuUTlKKqOM_1-J5mYoAJjo7O4FOEaAta9EALw_wcB
>>
>> It doesn't look as nice as the Selle Anatomica, but I switched a number 
>> of bikes over to the SMP Avant split-seat in my post-cancer life.  (I don't 
>> usually mention that, but it's no big deal and I'm figuring a number of us 
>> have had to accomodate our bikes and components for all kinds of medical 
>> reasons as we get older.  E.g., cross levers for old arthritic neck, 
>> split-saddles for post-surgical comfort.)
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Max B
>> Santa Rosa
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 9:04:27 AM UTC-8 reynoldslugs wrote:
>>
>> Mon Cher Scott:
>>
>> That's my Atlantis, yes.  It's one of the originals, I think I bought it 
>> from Rivendell in 2003.  I am not sure if that makes it a Toyo or something 
>> else, but I guess Toyo.
>>
>> The saddle is a Selle Anatomica:
>>
>>  
>> https://selleanatomica.com/products/x1?currency=USD=26447320072_medium=cpc_source=google_campaign=Google%20Shopping=Cj0KCQiAkMGcBhCSARIsAIW6d0DMPdR14gbzi7T9zEFYIZ9F08qIQgL-wwcThaZvwO5jRqNN3IPjFhgaAqUhEALw_wcB
>>
>> As for the cockpit, those are regular in-line Paul Cross levers on the 
>> handlebars:
>>
>> https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/brake-levers/inline/cross-lever/
>>
>> My reasoning - i.e.,  the experience that led me to start putting  
>> in-line cross levers on my bikes comes from long rides with long 
>> downhills.   After six hours or so of riding, they provide a comfortable 
>> alternative to braking in the drops.  When I'm tired, I like to have 
>> hand-position options for the Pine Flat Rd  descent (3,000' descent), or 
>> one of the other hills around here.
>>
>> Best,
>> Max B
>> Santa Rosa CA
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 8:47:53 AM UTC-8 Scott wrote:
>>
>> Max:
>>
>> I've wiped the drool from my chin 

[RBW] Re: New Roaduno Dropouts

[Shoji Takahashi]

I'm also v interested in RoadUno as "my last Riv"... 

Spec'ing a hanger on these trackends means that Riv can use it for other 
frames-- maybe they'll make a 135-spaced frame using these? Or someone will 
request a custom? 

That said, these are prototypes, so who knows what will show up in the 
final form. 

Looking forward to it!

Anyone ride the prototypes RoadUno frames at RivHQ? How does it compare to 
the Quickbeam? or present offerings? 

shoji
arlington ma


On Thursday, December 8, 2022 at 5:05:56 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> The print does say for a chain tensioner or derailleur. That's quite 
> straight forward to me. Sun XCD does make a 120mm cassette hub. Customize 
> your own cog set and there 'ya go. 
>
> So why call it a Road-UNO ?  Because it can be a seamless single speed 
> and just because it can be used as such doesn't mean it can't/shouldn't 
> have a hanger for a tensioner or derailleur. It adds to the versatility of 
> the frame, very good idea ! Don't let the words/definitions/descriptions 
> yank you're chain, so to speak. 
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 10:58:19 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>
>> Just dropping a little bomb here to see where the comments lead, for 
>> S**ts and giggles, mostly.
>>
>> The latest blagh shows the 3D printed track dropouts for the new Roaduno. 
>> It has a derailleur hanger. For a 120-spaced single speed. 
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>> (And to tag onto another posting ("choose two Rivendells") I own several 
>> bikes but only one Riv (last release of the Sam Hillborne.) I plan to do 
>> everything in my power to snag a purple Roaduno, regardless of dropout 
>> style. And at this point in my life that's the last new bike I plan to buy*
>>
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>> * But who am I fooling?
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: How you choose 2 Rivendells?

[Masa]

John, it was actually you and your Hunq on the blog post! I have been to 
Shikoku for a holiday by the public transportations but it must be amazing 
to ride there. I'm glad that you could see many beautiful places here in 
Japan.

Luckily Blue Lug is my local bike shop so it didn't take long for me to be 
a Riv fan!

Masa

2022年12月8日木曜日 3:28:02 UTC+9 John Rinker:

> Yes, Masa, I lived in Yokohama for a couple of years and had the very good 
> fortune to ride in many beautiful places in Japan. Yakushima and Shikoku 
> were my favorites! And, you are not mistaken, Chuyan at Blue Lug Hatagaya 
> took some photos of my bike one day, so he must have posted them on the 
> blog. Great bike shop with friendly, helpful staff. Another favorite of 
> mine. 
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 5:10:29 AM UTC-8 Masa wrote:
>
>> It's really interesting to read how people are enjoying/planning to ride 
>> 2 Rivendells! 
>> It seems like most of you have 2 different type Rivs for different 
>> occasions as I was vaguely imaging for my future as well.
>>
>> As Keith pointed out the tricky point is that if you get second bike for 
>> a different purpose which you barely have chances to go, you will end up to 
>> ride just one but not both of them. 
>> That made me think that I should get the second Riv if I "need" it while 
>> I got my first one mostly because I did "want" it.
>> (Well it's really hard to separate these feelings though)
>> Anyway I am going to ride my Platypus as much as possible for now and 
>> will see if I need another one:)
>>
>> Otherwise actually it's a really simple thing. Having 2 bikes you really 
>> love and "ride all the time and alternate daily" as John said.
>> John, if I'm not mistaken I have seen your Hunq on Blue Lug's blog 
>> before. You have lived in Japan? The Hunq and the Atlantis are both so 
>> beautiful!
>>
>> Masa 
>> 2022年12月7日水曜日 17:55:05 UTC+9 Luke Hendrickson:
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> What a two bike collection you have! Since I have the Riv I’ve always 
>>> wanted (Atlantis), now I’m yearning for a Hunq. Such a lovely, lugged 
>>> beaut. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 11:34:11 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 Hey Masa, 

 I'm stoked to own two Rivs- a Waterford Hunqapillar and a Toyo 
 Atlantis. 

 The Hunq was my first bike from Rivendell which I bought new in 2015. I 
 had the great pleasure of working with Keven M on ordering and dialing the 
 bike in. Right out of the box it was a go-anywhere, do-anything bike, and 
 it has been tested to its limits all over the world. Or, should I say, it 
 has tested my limits! This is the One-Bike-To-Rule-Them-All as far as I'm 
 concerned. 
 [image: IMG_6440.jpeg]

 I was fortunate enough to find a Toyo Atlantis a couple of summers ago 
 in this group. I chose the Atlantis because I still wanted a trail-worthy 
 bike that could handle a load, but also one that could be pared down for a 
 lighter, more nimble ride. Further, I wanted a bike made in Japan by Toyo 
 because...well...because of my love affair with Japanese dedication to 
 craftsmanship. It's a beautiful bicycle that provides a dreamy ride. 
 [image: Atlantis in the Snow.JPG]

 As far as the problem of bikes not being ridden enough is concerned, my 
 solution has been to ride all the time and alternate daily- when the Hunq 
 rolls on Monday, then the Atlantis rocks on Tuesday.

 Cheers, John
 On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:27:33 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I feel very happy with my 2 Rivendell bikes stable. I use my Clem H 
> everyday for groceries and towing my daughter around (studded tires with 
> fenders now). It could easily be stripped down and be a fantastic dirt 
> road 
> exploration bike, but I am fortunate to have a Susie for that and the 
> Susie 
> has an incredible ride!I’d love to add something like a Sam for lighter, 
> quicker rides, but I’m slow on any bike so I doubt it would make a big 
> difference.
>
> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 2:33:38 PM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Yes...indeed we do, Bill. And all of them have a story
>>
>> I do like your thinking
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 3:10:22 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Keith articulated a problem statement:
>>>
>>> "The problem is that you end end up with bikes that are specialized 
>>>  or optimized for one thing but don't get ridden enough because -  in 
>>> the 
>>> end - you're ALWAYS  going to just grab the one you like best and fits 
>>> the 
>>> best and that you are most familiar with.  The one that has become an 
>>> extension of you."
>>>
>>> While I have no doubt that this kind of things DOES happen, I reject 
>>> the notion that it MUST happen.  People acquire bikes for lots of 
>>> reasons, 
>>> and 

Re: [RBW] Is there a 31.8 clamp drop bar comparable to a Nitto Noodle 54cm?

[Steven Sweedler]

Scott, yesterday on the Bob list I asked about comparisons of the Noodle
and the RH Randonneur bar that comes in 31.8. The two responders liked both
bars and had used them for years. Steve

On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 10:07 PM 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hey, all:
>
> I'm wanting to try a 54cm Nitto Noodle drop, but I want to keep my 31.8
> Faceplater to facilitate cockpit changes.
>
> Anyone know of a comparable bar or solution? Maybe I should just get a
> Noodle and stem for change outs...
>
> Also, am I on the right track going with a Noodle (54cm cuz I'm tall)? I
> plan on using it as a cockpit option for my Atlantis build.
>
> Happy Holidays,
>
> Scott
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[RBW] Re: Stolen 58cm Rivendell Atlantis - Berkeley

[Ryan]

Dave, I am so sorry your bike was stolen and I hope you can get it back - 
safely

I suspect you have a lot of history with it and that is irreplaceable of 
course. But do you have house insurance to cover some of the financial 
loss, so you can possibly replace it if it doesn't turn up?

On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 4:48:03 PM UTC-6 Matt Beecher wrote:

> Ugh, I thought I mentioned it, but maybe edited it out.  I am very sorry 
> for the loss.  Short of my dogs, I don't know what else might hurt more to 
> be stolen than my bike.  
>
> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 4:47:00 PM UTC-6 Matt Beecher wrote:
>
>> As someone who has been very casually looking for a 58, can you provide 
>> any information that would help identify your frame, in case it gets parted 
>> out or rebuilt?  Do you have any photos of scratches, scuffs, etc that can 
>> help us spot it.  
>>
>> A long-running fear of mine when buying used bikes is that they could 
>> have been stolen at some point.  
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 10:38:01 AM UTC-6 Dave wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, 
>>>
>>> My 58cm Atlantis was stolen from my front porch yesterday afternoon, 
>>> near UC Berkeley. 
>>>
>>> I can't find a picture of the current build, however:
>>> It is notable for the Nitto Bullmoose Bars and silver Pletscher rear 
>>> rack. At the time of theft it also had fenders, a mini front rack + basket, 
>>> sackville panniers, and lights. 
>>> It is a standard, green 58cm Toyo Atlantis from around 2005.. 
>>>
>>> If you have any leads please let me know. 
>>>
>>> Best, .
>>> Dave 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Roaduno Dropouts

[Garth]

The print does say for a chain tensioner or derailleur. That's quite 
straight forward to me. Sun XCD does make a 120mm cassette hub. Customize 
your own cog set and there 'ya go. 

So why call it a Road-UNO ?  Because it can be a seamless single speed 
and just because it can be used as such doesn't mean it can't/shouldn't 
have a hanger for a tensioner or derailleur. It adds to the versatility of 
the frame, very good idea ! Don't let the words/definitions/descriptions 
yank you're chain, so to speak. 
On Wednesday, December 7, 2022 at 10:58:19 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:

> Just dropping a little bomb here to see where the comments lead, for S**ts 
> and giggles, mostly.
>
> The latest blagh shows the 3D printed track dropouts for the new Roaduno. 
> It has a derailleur hanger. For a 120-spaced single speed. 
>
> Comments?
>
> (And to tag onto another posting ("choose two Rivendells") I own several 
> bikes but only one Riv (last release of the Sam Hillborne.) I plan to do 
> everything in my power to snag a purple Roaduno, regardless of dropout 
> style. And at this point in my life that's the last new bike I plan to buy*
>
>
> Mike M
>
> * But who am I fooling?
>
>
>

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