[RBW] WTB: Rene Herse Parts

[Adam Bowen]

Hello Everyone!

Does anyone happen to have some Rene Herse parts laying around that they 
would sell me?

Also looking for:

   - *Front cable hanger*
   - *M-13 front rack for canti brakes*
   - *decaleur*

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Orange Ram touchup paint

[Chris Dresden]

I should have mentioned that a few years ago the rd dropout cracked and I 
took it back to Riv who had it re-brazed in Sacto and then sent to 
a paint matcher to repaint the repaired area who was obviously really good 
at this and I could not see any change in the color.

Chris
Boise
On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 3:29:45 AM UTC-7 ascpgh wrote:

> Small blems on an orange Rambouillet may be cosmetically reduced from 
> attracting attention using nail enamel in a good color match. As others 
> have said, the pearlescent orange finish was a three layer build to achieve 
> the result and is a harrowing repair to execute with continuity to the 
> surrounding original finish. 
>
> That complexity of finish is why my Ram and its beausavage (when things 
> get beyond Grant's "beausage") has not been renewed and the sum quoted to 
> do so by JB and others was put toward a new frame and fork. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> (where the 30-40 mph wind gusts and temperature drop just happened like a 
> switch was thrown)
>
> On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 3:14:57 PM UTC-5 cdres...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Checked some older postings and cyclofriend who recommended Boyds Roadser 
>> Florida Orange Pearl but appears to be out of stock. Anyone tried Boyd's 
>> Orange Pearl Enamel?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Will's Roadini SS

[Patrick Moore]

The Monocog 29er is a worthy steed; my present 2012 model (much modified
from the original by replacing crank, pedals, cog, brakes, bar, levers,
saddle) is my second; I had a 2010 even more modified with drop bar. I'd be
perfectly happy with the 2012 tho' it's far more beefy than I need if only
it had about 2 cm more clearance in back for a true 76 mm tire. As it is
the ~71-72 mm tire clears the stays by as little as 1 mm (tire wobbles) and
rubs at the slightest provocation.

If your tour was pre-fatbike, did you ever think of the SnoCat rims? I used
those on a Fargo until I switched to tubeless.

Do you have any photos of the touring Monocog?

On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 1:49 PM Wesley  wrote:

> Patrick, I think you've talked about having a Redline Monocog 29er... that
> was my more MTB-type single speed, too. I made it into an all-rounder by
> drilling and tapping the frame to mount rack and fenders, and I converted
> it to a manual 3-speed with three cog/chainring combinations that all added
> up to the same number of teeth. This was the bike that I built wheels for
> using unicycle rims for extra wideness. Finally, I put on Albatross bars
> and a CETMA front rack. In that configuration, I toured it from Fairbanks
> to Juneau, Alaska after I finished college at the University of Alaska
> Fairbanks. It was a very nice ride and I regret that I gave it away when I
> moved overseas for a few years.
> -Wes
>
> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 9:48:43 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I'd like to hear about and see photos of single-speeded or fix-ified
>> mountain bikes set up as all rounders. One of the nicest single
>> speeds/fixeds I owned, and one of the very few discarded bikes I wish I'd
>> kept (the others are largely ss or fixed too) was that very early '90s
>> Diamond Back Axis Team with TA Pro 5 Vis crank with 42 t ring on long
>> spindle pulling a 17t fixed cog for a 67" gear; Flite saddle and Noodles at
>> the perfect reach and height on a 10 cm Dirt Drop stem. The high bb let me
>> pedal at speed around corners and the handling, tho' a bit sedate by brisk
>> road bike standards, was entirely and wholly neutral and seamless and
>> pleasant.
>>
>> I've head of using a bb lockring as a lockring for a fixed cog, but I've
>> never bothered with one. I'll be interested in hearing if they add any
>> security.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 9:13 AM Coal Bee Rye Anne 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > To Patrick's note on using fixed cogs on standard freewheel
>> threading... aren't traditional cup/cone bottom bracket lockrings the same
>> threading (for the most part) and is there any value in using one of those
>> for extra security or is the same > direction threading pretty much render
>> them useless vs. the force that may be applied with firm backpedaling?
>> This is more a curiosity whether anyone has had success or failure
>> attempting this...
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell-esq fat bike

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks Laing and Hoch. Once again, confirmed that fatbike Q is more than I
care for.



On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 1:09 PM Hoch in ut  wrote:

> For reference, I built a Pugsley years ago with White Industries cranks
> and custom BB. The narrowest I could get the Q factor was 183mm. That is
> with about 2-3mm crank clearance. Much narrower than stock but definitely
> nowhere close to 160.
>
> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 10:48:43 AM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Bob. Others: If any of youse have this information, would be very
>> glad to hear it. Thanks.
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 2:33 PM Bob  wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick,
>>>
>>> I do not, sorry to say. Would like to have those data myself. Anyone
>>> here have a Prospector, a caliper, and a few minutes to take measurements?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 20, 2022 at 1:17:49 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Bob: Do you know how low a Q you can get on the Prospector, Scapegoat,
 Chimera and Bull Thistle, particularly with a single speed drivetrain (if
 any accept a ss drivetrain)? I've stayed away from Pugsleys etc because of
 the Q but if one can be built as a ss with a Q of no more than 160 I'd be
 very interested for our local sandy trails. As it is, I've been thinking of
 a 29er+ replacement for my Monocog 29er on which the rear 71 mm WTB ranger
 rubs the stays in corners but fat would be even better if the Q could be
 sorted.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Will's Roadini SS

[Patrick Moore]

I'm still curious whether righthand thread lockrings add any security to a
thread-on cog; it seems to me that butted tight against the cog, the cog
and lockring make up a single threaded piece that will respond to reverse
pressure just as the cog alone will. I'd be happy to hear more on the
subject. Perhaps it adds security simply by adding more threads to the
connection?

That said, again, I never had a problem with just a cog and no lockring;
and of course red Loctite will stick that cog onto the threads almost
permanently until you heat the stuff.

Patrick Moore, who did once torque the threads off a cheap stamped cog
*clockwise* on a cheap Normandy fw hub when accelerating hard from a light.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 7:47 AM Jingy  wrote:

> Brian wrote  < threading... aren't traditional cup/cone bottom bracket lockrings the same
> threading (for the most part) and is there any value in using one of those
> for extra security or is the same direction threading pretty much render
> them useless vs. the force that may be applied with firm backpedaling?
> This is more a curiosity whether anyone has had success or failure
> attempting this...>>
>
> Yes, an english thread BB lockring will fit the freewheel hub threads(not
> old weird french thread obviously) and can be used for extra security
> against the cog loosening up from backpedaling. I used this setup on a
> fixed gear commuter for a number of years. It may not be enough for tricky
> skids and other nonsense those fixie kids are into these days, but for
> normal riding it is quite helpful.
>
> Jim in Mpls
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Re: [RBW] Widest tires on green Quickbeam?

[Corwin Zechar]

I have run 38mm Schwalbe Marathon Supreme Duremes under SKS longboards on 
my green Quickbeam. I think they were P45s. Given that the widest tire I am 
aware of fitting on a Quickbeam (also green) was 44mm, this seems correct.

Regards,


Corwin

On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 7:36:17 AM UTC-8 Dave Grossman wrote:

> I have 42 Soma Grand Vitesse on currently.  I tried Big Apples once but 
> couldn't get them to fit.  I wonder if clearance is much difference between 
> colors at all?  I have a pair of Snoqualmies from my recently sold Homer 
> that I will try once the weather gets nicer.  In the winter I run 35 
> Marathon supremes and fenders and its worked great.  I have Belgiums so I 
> suppose I am maxing out width as well with those.
>
> On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 1:34:13 AM UTC-6 Philip Williamson 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for reviving this thread! I started at the beginning, and when I 
>> saw Clayton’s post, I looked at the date. “A… that makes sense.”
>>
>> You revised your question to ask about max fender widths.
>> I run 52mm aluminum Velocity Orange Zeppelins over 38mm RH tires on my 
>> 2004 green Quickbeam. The fenders are crimped a bit to pass between the 
>> chain stays, but not at the seat stays or under the fork. I like the longer 
>> coverage for the chain in front, and I like to be able to wheel the bike 
>> around vertically on the rear tire. Setting the rear fender up normally 
>> shouldn’t need any crimping.
>>
>> I just changed my 37mm tires to these 38s, and had to flip a mounting 
>> bolt for more clearance under the bridge: 
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/ClkhqIjr9oU/?igshid=MWI4MTIyMDE=
>> The new tires freshen up the bike, and I should probably straighten or 
>> replace the decade-old stays and add PDW releases:  
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/ClKbS02PGoN/?igshid=MWI4MTIyMDE=
>>
>> I would not put a bigger tire under metal fenders on this bike. Without 
>> fenders, my biggest tire was a 45mm Smoke  with the side knobs cut off. The 
>> hassle there isn’t worth the reward to me, and a (~43?) Bruce Gordon 
>> Rock’n’Road is as big as I’d go in the future. 
>>
>> Philip
>> Sonoma County, Calif 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 28, 2022 at 11:57:55 AM UTC-8 Will M wrote:
>>
>>> My experience too, Eric; thanks.  
>>>
>>> Perhaps the question I should be asking: what's the widest *fender* 
>>> that Quickbeamers reliably run without too much heroics in home-surgery 
>>> fender modifications?  --Will
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 2:29 PM Eric Daume  wrote:
>>>
 In my experience (not on a QB) 45mm fenders over 37 or 38mm tires might 
 work, but it’s very fiddly. A minor bump or misadjustment and something 
 will rub. 

 A good rule of thumb is max tire = fender -10mm, so 35mm tires for 45mm 
 fenders.

 Eric

 On Monday, November 28, 2022, Will M  wrote:

>>> Hi all.  Revisiting an oldish thread.  What's the biggest tire you 
> Quickbeamers are running with SKS P45 longboard feders?  I have an orange 
> 62cm Quickbeam and wanted to try 700x38mm tires with my P45s.  It's 
> pretty 
> clear that the Quickbeam can take 'em.  It's less clear if the P45 
> longboards can.  (Websites such as REI 
> ,
>  
> etc., say max tire width = 37mm, yet RBW says 
>  38mm).  
> Thoughts?  Thanks in advance.
>
> Will M
> -NYC 
>
> On Thursday, August 6, 2009 at 11:53:35 PM UTC-4 grant wrote:
>
>> You can measure the chainstay width, inside-2-inside, at the point 
>> where the tire passes, then figure howevermany millimeters you're 
>> comfortable with for clearance (four is a fine minimum-and the Japanese 
>> standard, Times 2 that's 8.). Then do the negative arithmetic, and 
>> blammo--there's your max tire. 
>> (I know those who ride less than four. if the tire is big and cushy, 
>> the wheel whill probably stay true forever. Why would it not?)
>>
>> G
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Andrew Janjigian  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> RBWers -
>>>
>>> I have 35mm tires on my green QB that need replacing. I'm thinking 
>>> about ditching the fenders and going AWAP. Anyone know whether 40mm 
>>> will 
>>> fit? It certainly looks like I have at least 5mm to spare. 
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> AJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rosco Platypus 60cm - Purple!

[a spen]

SOLD
Thanks folks!

On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 12:08:24 PM UTC-5 a spen wrote:

> I'm going to repost my Rosco due to technical issues the first try.
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I'm reluctantly parting with my latest acquisition, a 60 cm Rosco Platy-  
> in purple!
> I find it to be a more forgiving, compliant, and spritely ride than the 
> Gus & Suzie, and if it had a greater stack height it would be my perfect 
> all arounder, but the combination of my too tall pbh (99cm) and needing 
> handlebars up higher still just doesn't work here.
>  
> Having owned/own a slew of Rivs, this would be my candidate for 'the one 
> to rule them all'. An incredibly versatile, capable, and of course, being a 
> Riv, fun.
>
> --$1475 for complete bike. I have many parts that can be swapped out such 
> as a Brooks B67 saddle, Albatross bars, etc it interested.
>
> Please follow the link for pictures:  
>
> https://blacksburg.craigslist.org/bik/d/blacksburg-rivendell-rosco-platty-60-cm/7571278692.html
>  
> Shipping or delivery between DC and Atlanta possible
>
> ***Please message me with your questions, inquiries, etc.***
>
> Thanks!
> Al in VA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil and Hunqapillar origins: The definitive thread

[Luke Hendrickson]

Lovely bike, Vern! What kind of drop bars are those?

On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 5:30:49 PM UTC-7 plumber...@gmail.com wrote:

> Purchased from a member of the group in July but very recently built 
> Bombadil. Excited for many more miles of dirt in the new year!
>
> [image: IMG_9161.jpg]
>
> Happy holidays,
> Vern in San Francisco
> On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 12:41:47 PM UTC-8 foolis...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Presumedly, it might of sounded like I didn't like my Bombadil. I 
>> associate "overbuilt" with "wellmade" and absolutely love my bike. It keeps 
>> up with a casual road ride no problem. Impressive! It always felt like a 
>> swiss army knife. It's really great hearing all of the Bomba and Hunq info 
>> flowing. They have always been the most interesting of the Riv line to me. 
>>
>> On Saturday, December 24, 2022 at 9:34:53 AM UTC-6 Marc Irwin wrote:
>>
>>> That is indeed my Hunq and it is a Waterford frame.  I pre-ordered from 
>>> the first Taiwan production but Riv screwed up and sold mine to somebody 
>>> else.  When they realized their mistake they offered the remaining 54CM 
>>> from the first Waterford run.  My understanding is that the more ornate 
>>> lugs require more handwork during the brazing process and were too 
>>> difficult for the factory to produce.  My Taiwan built Sam  has the less 
>>> ornate rounded lugs like the ones on the Taiwan Hunqs.  Everything people 
>>> say about the ride is true.  The Hunq is a 
>>> goanywheredoanythingforbigboysbike, but, despite feeling heavy (my frame 
>>> and fork registered 10lbs on the bathroom scale) it rides surprisingly 
>>> quickly.  I've ridden with 15-16mph groups at club and charity rides with 
>>> no problem and could probably keep up with faster if I cared enough.
>>> [image: IMG_1831.JPG]
>>> Here's where it's taken me so far.
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 4:26:48 PM UTC-5 Chris L wrote:
>>>
 I first discovered RBW in August of 2011 and Grant said he would only 
 recommend the Hunqapillar or Bombadil for someone my weight.  In the 
 following eight years it took for me to finally buy one, I amassed quite a 
 collection of Hunqapillar photos.  

 One thing I've noticed is that some of the very earliest Hunqapillars 
 have mismatched headtube lugs.  The top has points on the sides but on 
 some 
 bikes, the bottom headtube lug is rounded, with no point on some bikes and 
 pointed on the sides of others.  I'm wondering if this factor 
 differentiates Tawain Hunqapillars from the MUSA/Japan (of Toyo made some, 
 it seems like they did) ones.  

 The 54cm proto-type had the rounded side on the bottom lug.  

 [image: 4985768915_03bc844911_o.jpg]


 This kidney bean Hunq also has the smooth sided bottom lug

 [image: 005 (2).jpg]


 I believe this is Marc's bike and I think he has stated it was a 
 Waterford frame and it has the point on the side of the bottom lug

 [image: 006.jpg]
 On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 8:02:36 AM UTC-6 
 captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:

> All,
>
> I was deleting old file from my phone and found the *Original 
> Hunqabook" PDF.  I'm not sure if it was shared already, but here you go.
>
> On Thursday, December 22, 2022 at 12:04:20 PM UTC-6 Cyclofiend Jim 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes. My recollection was that Bomba was coming out when it was 
>> "suggested" that those names were IP, so IIRC it was the last of the 
>> Tolkien names.
>>
>> Grant shared the Hunkapiller mailbox story with me verbally during a 
>> visit to RBWHQ It was the same as he later wrote in one of the 
>> Readers. 
>>
>> The first Hunqapillar I ever saw came out with grey frame and orange.
>> I had some images over on my (goodness gracious it's still THERE?) 
>> Flickr feed - 
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=93409214%40N00_all=1=hunqapillar
>>
>> There were both TTT (Twin Top Tube) and Diagatube frames when I 
>> visited. IIRC, Grant said it was going to be diagatube only in 
>> production - 
>> this image shows an unpainted model - 
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/4713714578/in/photolist-8bx281-8btKnk-8btKpk-7NNCR6-cqiLDG-7NVfpo-oiwPmQ-7NVgrq-7NVfuj-7NVgwQ-7NRh2g-7NRhHe-7NRgWB
>> (taken mid-2010)
>>
>> For completeness - here's a tall Bomba with the TTT and that gorgeous 
>> kidney bean red - 
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/4207455573/in/photolist-7pNiXt-7pSegm-7pNiYF
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 1:41:43 PM UTC-8 Jay Lonner wrote:
>>
>>> This is the story that I’ve heard. And while I do love the name and 
>>> woolly mammoth iconography, it does feel like a missed opportunity when 
>>> Oliphaunt was right there. (But maybe they had already gotten a 
>>> 

Re: [RBW] Re: New Rivendell Newsletter - End of the year frame round-up !

[Brian Turner]

I don’t own a Riv blue Clem, but do have a Riv blue Gus, and this does appear to be the same color. It’s gorgeous in person, and the color seems to shift a bit in different lighting. Sometimes it’s more blue, sometimes it has a hint of green in it. But I would never say it’s a bluish green. I don’t even really like blue all that much, but this is probably my 2nd favorite Riv color of all time… so I think that says something.On Dec 25, 2022, at 1:56 PM, Wesley  wrote:Is this "Riv Blue"? It appears to have more green in it than the pics on Rivendell's Clem page. A beautiful color! Can someone who owns one comment on how the appearance in reality compares to the picture? On Friday, December 23, 2022 at 5:33:27 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:See it all here:https://mailchi.mp/5aff4d81004d/an-end-of-the-year-frame-restock?e=d93bc6367a
Here's what we have:

    Susies - mostly limeolive - all sizes
    Gus frames - mostly mermaid - all sizes
    Homers in 58, 61.5, and 64cm There are two 58cm frames with tiny blemishes - they're discounted.
    Rosco Platypus frames in all sizes and both colors.Kim HetzelYelm, WA.





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Re: [RBW] Re: Gingerbread Rivendell for the holidays.

[Ahmed Elgasseir]

Awesome! #FamilyGoals ❤️

On Sun, Dec 25, 2022 at 12:40 PM Luke Hendrickson <
phendricks...@paulpath.net> wrote:

> Ha! That’s adorable. Happy holidays 
>
> On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 1:31:02 PM UTC-7 Evan E. wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Look what I found in my Christmas stocking this morning. My daughter
>> decorated this cookie.  Note the long chainstays. Clearly a Rivendell.
>> Happy holidays to all.
>>
>> Evan
>>
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[RBW] Re: Gingerbread Rivendell for the holidays.

[Luke Hendrickson]

Ha! That’s adorable. Happy holidays 

On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 1:31:02 PM UTC-7 Evan E. wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Look what I found in my Christmas stocking this morning. My daughter 
> decorated this cookie.  Note the long chainstays. Clearly a Rivendell. 
> Happy holidays to all.
>
> Evan
>

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Re: [RBW] San Francisco/Bay Area Riv Riders

[Luke Hendrickson]

Evan,

I didn’t know about that group! I just requested to join.

And yes – that’s the plan for now. 

On Sunday, December 25, 2022 at 1:20:48 PM UTC-7 Evan E. wrote:

> So: on January 1 meet at 10am at Coffee Movement (1737 Balboa), followed 
> by a 10:30am departure?
>
> Note this Bay Area Riv Riders Google group:
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/bay-area-rivendell-riders
>
> ^ Maybe post an invitation there?
>
>

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Re: [RBW] San Francisco/Bay Area Riv Riders

[Evan E.]

So: on January 1 meet at 10am at Coffee Movement (1737 Balboa), followed by 
a 10:30am departure?

Note this Bay Area Riv Riders Google group:

https://groups.google.com/g/bay-area-rivendell-riders

^ Maybe post an invitation there?

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