[RBW] Re: WTB Large Rosco Baby in the next 12 months

[Joe Mullins]

FWIW, I spoke to Will about the Rosco Baby and he told me the new Clem's 
are the closest thing to them. Big difference being that tubes in the Rosco 
Baby are burlier. 

Joe in Los Angeles

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 4:52:52 PM UTC-7 maxcr wrote:

> Thanks Laing, Slin and Paul!
>
> In 2016 Riv listed the Clem L as follows:
> size 59 has an ETT of 64
> size 65 has an ETT of 67 
> both with STA and HTA of 71.5
>
> Paul, I wonder if yours was a newer version with an even longer 70cm ETT!
>
> I found this diagram for a 52 Rosco Baby, which shows a whopping 72.5 ETT! 
> The main difference are the 70.5 HTA and the STA at 68 - I believe the 
> latter is a big part of the expanded top tube. i wonder what's the ETT on 
> the 58 Baby?
>
> The 56 Susie shows an ETT of 68.5 on the website, a bit longer than the 
> diagram I found below but still well below than the Rosco baby. Anyone has 
> experience with a front load on a Susie? Yeah, I'm looking for excuses to 
> buy Ryan's bike ;) My wife has a small Susie and it's a great bike.
>
> Max
> [image: IMG_0033.JPG]
> [image: 56cm susie.png]
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 4:10:12 PM UTC-6 Paul M wrote:
>
>> I had a 64cm 2021 lime-olive Clem L and it had a 70cm effective top tube. 
>>
>> On Monday, 10 April 2023 at 14:15:14 UTC-7 Slin wrote:
>>
>>> Laing is right that the latest Clem L has a much longer top tube than 
>>> the Clementine, but it's not 4.5 inches longer.
>>>
>>> Max - Bosco bars are a great for getting more space for you and the 
>>> baby. Sizing up on a Clem for me has worked great to get space for my knees 
>>> with the baby up front too.
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 12:53:24 PM UTC-7 lconley wrote:
>>>
 I have a Clementine and a Rosco Baby. BIG, BIG difference. The Rosco 
 Baby Effective Top Tube is about 4-1/2 inches longer that the Clementine. 
 725mm for the Rosco Baby 52cm, 610mm for the Clementine 52cm. The current 
 Clem may be slightly different than the original Clementine, but not 4-1/2 
 inches.

 Laing
 Delray Beach FL

 On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 3:40:38 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> We've got a little one on the way and I've started thinking about a 
> bike for a Thule Yepp mini front seat without knee interference to ride 
> next summer!
>
> I have pretty long legs for my 5'11" height - pbh of 90.5 so I always 
> look for bikes with short-ish top tubes or use very short stems which in 
> mind provide the most comfortable fit for me. I don't think any of my 
> current bikes is ideal, the proto Gallop has long chainstays and a swoopy 
> top tube for swept back bars so considering geometry, I think it is the 
> closest, but I don't think it'll handle the weight in the front very 
> well. 
> The Hunq and Bomba can take the weight, but they might leave me feeling 
> scrunched with limited space between the saddle and the child seat. Maybe 
> I 
> could get a long stem and a set of Boscos and try it out?
>
> Anyway, I've re-read many of the old posts about the Rosco Baby, and 
> even though it's hard to find a ton of info on these I decided that 
> ideally 
> I'd get a large Rosco Baby. 
>
> Did the Rosco baby come in three sizes S, M, L (58) or was there an XL 
> (62-64)?  I've already sent out a few feelers hoping some kiddos are 
> outgrowing theirs in the next few months but my ask is that *if 
> anyone is considering selling a large Rosco baby, please ping me - I'm 
> open 
> to buying the frame or complete anytime between now and next summer.*
>
> In case I don't get the Rosco, I also re-read many threads on Clem vs 
> Susie vs Platypus, etc. I discarded the Platy, not sure why but my 
> current 
> alternative ideas are: 
>
> 1) Buy Ryan's Susie, but I'm not sure it'll handle as well as the baby 
> and the swoopy top tube doesn't make of a true step-thru mound/dismount 
> but 
> it might work.
>
> 2) Get one of those upcoming Clem L's - maybe a 64 to have a longer 
> ETT. I'll slam the seat down, like Grant's 64 Clem which was posted on 
> the 
> blug a while back.
>
> What do you think? Would you try the Bomba? Is a Susie a good option? 
> Or should it really be a Gus to take the extra (up to 33lbs max on the 
> Yepp) weight? Or should I just get a Clem and call it a day?
>
> Then again, if the Rosco Baby and the Clem are so similar, why was 
> Grant looking for a Rosco baby not long ago, knowing the Clems would be 
> in 
> stock in April? The head tube angle and stoutness might not be the same? 
> Am 
> I over-optimizing again?
>
> Thanks
> Max
>


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Spring Cleaning: Bags, Brakes, Crank, etc.

[John Dewey]

Andrew, I’ll grab the 5000s if still available.

Jock Dewey

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 7:38 PM Andrew Turner 
wrote:

> Here's an updated list:
> *Royal Gran Compe 400 Brakeset:* Black with low miles but could use some
> new brake pads)
> $65
>
> *Sackville SaddleSack ExtraSmall:* Brown with a small tear in the top
> middle from where I had an external battery wired through to a handlebar
> light. I've somehow lost the leather straps it came with so hopefully the
> price reflects all that.
> $40
>
> *Kool-Stop Continental Salmon Brake Pads:* Used for less than 100 miles.
> $10 (or free if purchased with a pair of brake pads)
>
> *Shimano Ultegra 6500 Brakeset:* Used but in excellent shape, could use
> some new brake pads IMO. Short reach
> $30
>
> *Sugino XD2 Crankset:* 170mm length, 46/34 Origin 8 chainrings, all very
> lightly used
> $150
>
> *Acorn Large Saddlebag:* brown (kinda olivy) very lightly used. I'm not
> the first owner but that owner I don't think ever used it and I never used
> it either!
> $100
>
> -
>
> I've also got a pair of like-new *Continental Grand Prix 5000 black
> 700x32* tires if anyone's interested. They've got less than 20 miles on
> them.
> $55 for the pair + shipping
>
> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:16:19 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Price correction on the Sugino XD2 crankset.
>> I meant to post it as $110, my fault!
>>
>> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:14:31 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Dura Ace front derailleur and Shimano R600 brakes are sold!
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 6:43:21 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>>
 Pictures here:
 https://photos.app.goo.gl/5q3GaT9EnzUh7yzt5

 Prices do not include shipping (CONUS)

 *Royal Gran Compe 400 Brakeset:* Black with low miles but could use
 some new brake pads)
 $65

 *Sackville SaddleSack ExtraSmall:* Brown with a small tear in the top
 middle from where I had an external battery wired through to a handlebar
 light. I've somehow lost the leather straps it came with so hopefully the
 price reflects all that.
 $40

 *Selle Anatomica Series 2 Carbon Rail:* New, never used.
 $50

 *Surly Chain Tensioner:* includes both springs it came with. Used for
 a two jaunts around town but I've since moved on to a bike with horizontal
 dropouts rendering this useless. Worked great though and easy to install!
 $30

 *Kool-Stop Continental Salmon Brake Pads:* Used for less than 100
 miles.
 $10 (or free if purchased with a pair of brake pads)

 *Nitto Technomic Quill Stem: *8cm 26.0 clamp, lightly used
 $30

 *Dura Ace front derailleur:* 31.8 clamp, double, lightly used
 $28

 *Shimano BR-R600 Brakeset:* Near mint but w/o brake shoes. 47-57mm
 reach
 $80

 *Shimano Ultegra 6500 Brakeset:* Used but in excellent shape, could
 use some new brake pads IMO. Short reach
 $30

 *Sugino XD2 Crankset:* 170mm length, 46/34 Origin 8 chainrings, all
 very lightly used
 $150

 *Acorn Large Saddlebag:* brown (kinda olivy) very lightly used. I'm
 not the first owner but that owner I don't think ever used it and I never
 used it either!
 $100




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[RBW] Re: FS: Spring Cleaning: Bags, Brakes, Crank, etc.

[Andrew Turner]

Here's an updated list: 
*Royal Gran Compe 400 Brakeset:* Black with low miles but could use some 
new brake pads) 
$65

*Sackville SaddleSack ExtraSmall:* Brown with a small tear in the top 
middle from where I had an external battery wired through to a handlebar 
light. I've somehow lost the leather straps it came with so hopefully the 
price reflects all that. 
$40 

*Kool-Stop Continental Salmon Brake Pads:* Used for less than 100 miles. 
$10 (or free if purchased with a pair of brake pads) 

*Shimano Ultegra 6500 Brakeset:* Used but in excellent shape, could use 
some new brake pads IMO. Short reach 
$30

*Sugino XD2 Crankset:* 170mm length, 46/34 Origin 8 chainrings, all very 
lightly used 
$150 

*Acorn Large Saddlebag:* brown (kinda olivy) very lightly used. I'm not the 
first owner but that owner I don't think ever used it and I never used it 
either!  
$100 

- 

I've also got a pair of like-new *Continental Grand Prix 5000 black 700x32* 
tires if anyone's interested. They've got less than 20 miles on them.  
$55 for the pair + shipping

On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 8:16:19 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Price correction on the Sugino XD2 crankset. 
> I meant to post it as $110, my fault! 
>
> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 7:14:31 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Dura Ace front derailleur and Shimano R600 brakes are sold! 
>>
>> On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 6:43:21 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Pictures here: 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/5q3GaT9EnzUh7yzt5  
>>>
>>> Prices do not include shipping (CONUS)
>>>
>>> *Royal Gran Compe 400 Brakeset:* Black with low miles but could use 
>>> some new brake pads) 
>>> $65
>>>
>>> *Sackville SaddleSack ExtraSmall:* Brown with a small tear in the top 
>>> middle from where I had an external battery wired through to a handlebar 
>>> light. I've somehow lost the leather straps it came with so hopefully the 
>>> price reflects all that. 
>>> $40 
>>>
>>> *Selle Anatomica Series 2 Carbon Rail:* New, never used.
>>> $50
>>>
>>> *Surly Chain Tensioner:* includes both springs it came with. Used for a 
>>> two jaunts around town but I've since moved on to a bike with horizontal 
>>> dropouts rendering this useless. Worked great though and easy to install!  
>>> $30
>>>
>>> *Kool-Stop Continental Salmon Brake Pads:* Used for less than 100 
>>> miles. 
>>> $10 (or free if purchased with a pair of brake pads) 
>>>
>>> *Nitto Technomic Quill Stem: *8cm 26.0 clamp, lightly used
>>> $30 
>>>
>>> *Dura Ace front derailleur:* 31.8 clamp, double, lightly used 
>>> $28 
>>>
>>> *Shimano BR-R600 Brakeset:* Near mint but w/o brake shoes. 47-57mm reach
>>> $80
>>>
>>> *Shimano Ultegra 6500 Brakeset:* Used but in excellent shape, could use 
>>> some new brake pads IMO. Short reach 
>>> $30
>>>
>>> *Sugino XD2 Crankset:* 170mm length, 46/34 Origin 8 chainrings, all 
>>> very lightly used 
>>> $150 
>>>
>>> *Acorn Large Saddlebag:* brown (kinda olivy) very lightly used. I'm not 
>>> the first owner but that owner I don't think ever used it and I never used 
>>> it either!  
>>> $100 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: That 7-speed 13-42 cassette

[Slin]

JS -

For a few months now, I've been using the 13-42 on my Clem with the stock 
38/24 chain rings. I've rarely switched to the 24, so if I were setting it 
up again, I'd be comfortable using it as a 1x.

90% of my use is hauling kids over small hills in SF, and a bit of trail 
riding.

I'd say it could be great for your use case too!

S
On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 5:36:46 PM UTC-7 J Schwartz wrote:

> Greetings 
> Is anyone using that "Jim" cassette and, if so, are you pairing it with a 
> double or going 1x?
> How's is working for you?
> Thinking of using it 1x for a townie / grocery getter Chev.
> thanks
> JS
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass 700x44, Vintage White Industries/Sugino Crankset

[JW]

Tires claimed, thanks!

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 2:41:29 PM UTC-7 JW wrote:

> Hey groups,
>
> Couple things for your consideration.
>
> *RH Snoqualmie Pass Tires*, 700x44, endurance casing, great condition, 
> only a couple hundred miles at most. Will include some tubes I think work 
> fine.
>
> *$105/shipped in CONUS*
>
> *Vintage White Industries/Sugino manufactured crankset*, 175mm. 44/36/24.
>
> NOS Sugino chainrings on large and small, New Origin8 for middle ring, 
> less than 40 miles on these rings.
>
> *$150/shipped in CONUS*
>
> PHOTOS 
> 
>
> Please respond off list if interested.
>
> Thanks :)
>
> Jared
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Rene Herse Snoqualmie Pass 700x44, Vintage White Industries/Sugino Crankset

[JW]

Hey groups,

Couple things for your consideration.

*RH Snoqualmie Pass Tires*, 700x44, endurance casing, great condition, only 
a couple hundred miles at most. Will include some tubes I think work fine.

*$105/shipped in CONUS*

*Vintage White Industries/Sugino manufactured crankset*, 175mm. 44/36/24.

NOS Sugino chainrings on large and small, New Origin8 for middle ring, less 
than 40 miles on these rings.

*$150/shipped in CONUS*

PHOTOS 


Please respond off list if interested.

Thanks :)

Jared


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[RBW] Re: "You need 7 bikes" article

[Slin]

Guy -

Those are some great bikes, I wish I could help slim down the herd, but my 
frame size is smaller. Is there a story for how you ended up with so many 
2022 bikes?

S

On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 2:54:17 PM UTC-7 leva...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have way too much overlap in my quiver:
>
> 2015 Soma San Marcos (Tiburon Blue) - 57cm
> 2018 Atlantis  (650B) - 56cm
> 2022 Crust Canti Romanceur (Pistachio) - 57cm
> 2022 Sam Hillborne (HiHo Silver) - 57cm
> 2004ish Rambouillet (Joe Bell Custom Brown) - 60cm
> 2022 Wolbis/Susie (Dark Gold) - 56cm
> 2021 Gus Boots (Mermaid) - 59cm
> 2022 Roadini (RBW Orange) - 57cm
> 2020 Platypus (Mermaid) - 60cm
> 2022 Rosco Bubbe - (Purple) - 60cm
>
> I would really like to slim down the herd!  You interested in helping?
>
> Guy
>
> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 3:03:48 PM UTC-6 Steven Seelig wrote:
>
>> Bikes in order of use:
>>
>>1. Brand new Platypus for City riding
>>2. Spectrum titanium road bike (frame fabricated by Seven) 
>>for clipped in rides and longer road tours
>>3. Rambouillet for more spirited city rides.
>>4. Sam outfitted as a gravel bike for country rides
>>5. Xtracycle cargo bike with a large aftermarket Bafang 1,000 watt 
>>motor for shopping.
>>6. Brompton for train and plane travel and occasional last mile rides 
>>if driving to a big car traffic event
>>7. 1986 Look Bernard Hinault Reynolds 753 steel bike.  Same frame as 
>>the ones he a Lemond rode in the tour when the badger would not let Greg 
>>usurp his team leadership and claim the Yellow Jersey.  
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 3:30:19 PM UTC-4 Edwin W wrote:
>>
>> Bikes in order of use
>>
>>1. Joe Appa daily driver
>>2. Raleigh sprite vintage fixed for variety in commute
>>3. 90's GT avalanche for occasional MTB'ing
>>4. Dahon boardwalk guest bike I will occasionally use
>>5. Vintage Schwinn tandem for occasional fun ride. Kickback 2 speed
>>
>> Apparently I have too (two) few bikes!
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 29, 2023 at 7:45:16 AM UTC-5 Tom Palmer wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I recall an article by Grant about the number of bike a person needs with 
>> justification. I think it was 7.
>>  Any idea which reader it was in?
>> Thanks!
>> Tom Palmer
>> Twin Lake, MI
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Large Rosco Baby in the next 12 months

[Slin]

Laing is right that the latest Clem L has a much longer top tube than the 
Clementine, but it's not 4.5 inches longer.

Max - Bosco bars are a great for getting more space for you and the baby. 
Sizing up on a Clem for me has worked great to get space for my knees with 
the baby up front too.

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 12:53:24 PM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> I have a Clementine and a Rosco Baby. BIG, BIG difference. The Rosco Baby 
> Effective Top Tube is about 4-1/2 inches longer that the Clementine. 725mm 
> for the Rosco Baby 52cm, 610mm for the Clementine 52cm. The current Clem 
> may be slightly different than the original Clementine, but not 4-1/2 
> inches.
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 3:40:38 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> We've got a little one on the way and I've started thinking about a bike 
>> for a Thule Yepp mini front seat without knee interference to ride next 
>> summer!
>>
>> I have pretty long legs for my 5'11" height - pbh of 90.5 so I always 
>> look for bikes with short-ish top tubes or use very short stems which in 
>> mind provide the most comfortable fit for me. I don't think any of my 
>> current bikes is ideal, the proto Gallop has long chainstays and a swoopy 
>> top tube for swept back bars so considering geometry, I think it is the 
>> closest, but I don't think it'll handle the weight in the front very well. 
>> The Hunq and Bomba can take the weight, but they might leave me feeling 
>> scrunched with limited space between the saddle and the child seat. Maybe I 
>> could get a long stem and a set of Boscos and try it out?
>>
>> Anyway, I've re-read many of the old posts about the Rosco Baby, and even 
>> though it's hard to find a ton of info on these I decided that ideally I'd 
>> get a large Rosco Baby. 
>>
>> Did the Rosco baby come in three sizes S, M, L (58) or was there an XL 
>> (62-64)?  I've already sent out a few feelers hoping some kiddos are 
>> outgrowing theirs in the next few months but my ask is that *if anyone 
>> is considering selling a large Rosco baby, please ping me - I'm open to 
>> buying the frame or complete anytime between now and next summer.*
>>
>> In case I don't get the Rosco, I also re-read many threads on Clem vs 
>> Susie vs Platypus, etc. I discarded the Platy, not sure why but my current 
>> alternative ideas are: 
>>
>> 1) Buy Ryan's Susie, but I'm not sure it'll handle as well as the baby 
>> and the swoopy top tube doesn't make of a true step-thru mound/dismount but 
>> it might work.
>>
>> 2) Get one of those upcoming Clem L's - maybe a 64 to have a longer ETT. 
>> I'll slam the seat down, like Grant's 64 Clem which was posted on the blug 
>> a while back.
>>
>> What do you think? Would you try the Bomba? Is a Susie a good option? Or 
>> should it really be a Gus to take the extra (up to 33lbs max on the Yepp) 
>> weight? Or should I just get a Clem and call it a day?
>>
>> Then again, if the Rosco Baby and the Clem are so similar, why was Grant 
>> looking for a Rosco baby not long ago, knowing the Clems would be in stock 
>> in April? The head tube angle and stoutness might not be the same? Am I 
>> over-optimizing again?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Max
>>
>

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[RBW] PSA Analog Super Secret Sale

[maxcr]

FYI The good folks at analog cycles are running their secret sale, tons of 
goodies. A few things I saw that might be of interest here include some 
discounted Nitto racks and mounts as well as some cerakoated bottle cages, 
Bitex hubs, etc.

Check out their instagram bio page for the 
link: https://www.instagram.com/analogcycles/

Max

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Re: [RBW] Re: San Francisco to Arcata touring recommendations

[jamin orrall]

thanks everyone for the information, I am rethinking now and may take the 
coast starlight to Redding or Shasta and ride to Arcata from there, if 
anyone has any tips on roads or campgrounds it would be greatly appreciated!

On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 3:01:48 PM UTC-7 sin...@msn.com wrote:

> Not sure if you are open to doing multimodal transportation. You can ride 
> to San Rafael and get on the SMART train. Then you can ride this tentative 
> route from Sonoma County Airport all the way to Eureka. I mainly plotted on 
> paved surfaces (not sure what kind of set up do you have). This takes you 
> onto the coast from Ukiah to Fort Bragg, then follow HWY 1 to Laytonville. 
> From there you can ride your way up to Eureka mostly shielded from the 
> coastal wind. This route minimizes the coast so you don't have to fight the 
> head winds very much. But others should chime in for the best route between 
> Laytonville and Eureka.
>
> https://ridewithgps.com/routes/42469821
>
> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 9:55:50 AM UTC-7 jamin orrall wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the tips so far! I'm afraid I don't have the option of 
>> north to south this time, I am not only doing this for pleasure but also as 
>> transportation, I need to be in Arcata by the 19th.
>>
>> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 9:49:04 AM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Btw, the bible for the Pacific Coast Tour is Spring & Kirkendall: 
>>> https://amzn.to/3Gueao2
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 9:32 AM Franklyn Wu  wrote:
>>>
 The prevailing wind is north-to-south, so if you will be on the coast 
 much, then going from Arcata to SF is less challenging. There aren't many 
 ways to get to Arcata, though, perhaps greyhound bus with your bike packed 
 up?

 On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 9:12:55 AM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> The biggest recommendation is to do it in reverse! In good weather you 
> get a tailwind North to South. Grinding against the headwind South to 
> North 
> is no fun. You won't win the fight against mother nature and it won't be 
> nearly as fun!
>
> On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 9:06:51 AM UTC-7 jamin orrall wrote:
>
>> Howdy! I am doing a short little bike tour from San Francisco (Amtrak 
>> station) to Arcata California in a week or so on my Homer Hilsen.  
>> Anyone 
>> have any tips or recommendations? Wondering if I should just stick to 
>> the 
>> PCH or try some other roads.  FYI I have ridden from Bodega Bay to LA so 
>> I 
>> have some experience on the coastal route but not that far north.  I 
>> will 
>> be camping with a very light road.
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[RBW] Re: WTB Large Rosco Baby in the next 12 months

[lconley]

I have a Clementine and a Rosco Baby. BIG, BIG difference. The Rosco Baby 
Effective Top Tube is about 4-1/2 inches longer that the Clementine. 725mm 
for the Rosco Baby 52cm, 610mm for the Clementine 52cm. The current Clem 
may be slightly different than the original Clementine, but not 4-1/2 
inches.

Laing
Delray Beach FL

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 3:40:38 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> We've got a little one on the way and I've started thinking about a bike 
> for a Thule Yepp mini front seat without knee interference to ride next 
> summer!
>
> I have pretty long legs for my 5'11" height - pbh of 90.5 so I always look 
> for bikes with short-ish top tubes or use very short stems which in mind 
> provide the most comfortable fit for me. I don't think any of my current 
> bikes is ideal, the proto Gallop has long chainstays and a swoopy top tube 
> for swept back bars so considering geometry, I think it is the closest, but 
> I don't think it'll handle the weight in the front very well. The Hunq and 
> Bomba can take the weight, but they might leave me feeling scrunched with 
> limited space between the saddle and the child seat. Maybe I could get a 
> long stem and a set of Boscos and try it out?
>
> Anyway, I've re-read many of the old posts about the Rosco Baby, and even 
> though it's hard to find a ton of info on these I decided that ideally I'd 
> get a large Rosco Baby. 
>
> Did the Rosco baby come in three sizes S, M, L (58) or was there an XL 
> (62-64)?  I've already sent out a few feelers hoping some kiddos are 
> outgrowing theirs in the next few months but my ask is that *if anyone is 
> considering selling a large Rosco baby, please ping me - I'm open to buying 
> the frame or complete anytime between now and next summer.*
>
> In case I don't get the Rosco, I also re-read many threads on Clem vs 
> Susie vs Platypus, etc. I discarded the Platy, not sure why but my current 
> alternative ideas are: 
>
> 1) Buy Ryan's Susie, but I'm not sure it'll handle as well as the baby and 
> the swoopy top tube doesn't make of a true step-thru mound/dismount but it 
> might work.
>
> 2) Get one of those upcoming Clem L's - maybe a 64 to have a longer ETT. 
> I'll slam the seat down, like Grant's 64 Clem which was posted on the blug 
> a while back.
>
> What do you think? Would you try the Bomba? Is a Susie a good option? Or 
> should it really be a Gus to take the extra (up to 33lbs max on the Yepp) 
> weight? Or should I just get a Clem and call it a day?
>
> Then again, if the Rosco Baby and the Clem are so similar, why was Grant 
> looking for a Rosco baby not long ago, knowing the Clems would be in stock 
> in April? The head tube angle and stoutness might not be the same? Am I 
> over-optimizing again?
>
> Thanks
> Max
>

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[RBW] WTB Large Rosco Baby in the next 12 months

[maxcr]

Hi Everyone,

We've got a little one on the way and I've started thinking about a bike 
for a Thule Yepp mini front seat without knee interference to ride next 
summer!

I have pretty long legs for my 5'11" height - pbh of 90.5 so I always look 
for bikes with short-ish top tubes or use very short stems which in mind 
provide the most comfortable fit for me. I don't think any of my current 
bikes is ideal, the proto Gallop has long chainstays and a swoopy top tube 
for swept back bars so considering geometry, I think it is the closest, but 
I don't think it'll handle the weight in the front very well. The Hunq and 
Bomba can take the weight, but they might leave me feeling scrunched with 
limited space between the saddle and the child seat. Maybe I could get a 
long stem and a set of Boscos and try it out?

Anyway, I've re-read many of the old posts about the Rosco Baby, and even 
though it's hard to find a ton of info on these I decided that ideally I'd 
get a large Rosco Baby. 

Did the Rosco baby come in three sizes S, M, L (58) or was there an XL 
(62-64)?  I've already sent out a few feelers hoping some kiddos are 
outgrowing theirs in the next few months but my ask is that *if anyone is 
considering selling a large Rosco baby, please ping me - I'm open to buying 
the frame or complete anytime between now and next summer.*

In case I don't get the Rosco, I also re-read many threads on Clem vs Susie 
vs Platypus, etc. I discarded the Platy, not sure why but my current 
alternative ideas are: 

1) Buy Ryan's Susie, but I'm not sure it'll handle as well as the baby and 
the swoopy top tube doesn't make of a true step-thru mound/dismount but it 
might work.

2) Get one of those upcoming Clem L's - maybe a 64 to have a longer ETT. 
I'll slam the seat down, like Grant's 64 Clem which was posted on the blug 
a while back.

What do you think? Would you try the Bomba? Is a Susie a good option? Or 
should it really be a Gus to take the extra (up to 33lbs max on the Yepp) 
weight? Or should I just get a Clem and call it a day?

Then again, if the Rosco Baby and the Clem are so similar, why was Grant 
looking for a Rosco baby not long ago, knowing the Clems would be in stock 
in April? The head tube angle and stoutness might not be the same? Am I 
over-optimizing again?

Thanks
Max

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Re: [RBW] That 7-speed 13-42 cassette

[RichS]

Hello Jason,

If this helps, I have the 13-34 Jim cassette paired with a 46x34 crank, 
Deore LX rear der and a Claris in the front. Friction shifted. Works just 
fine.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 9:04:21 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello. I recently built up my Gus with the 11-36 version of the 7 speed 
> cassette paired with the Silver wide/low crankset. The jury is still out 
> but so far so good. The steps of course are bigger than the 9 speed cluster 
> on my Clem. But, I’ve enjoyed the shifting performance and simplicity while 
> never wanting for a gear - yet. The proof of concept will come this week (I 
> hope) when I finally get to put this bike to the test at my favorite trail 
> - DTE in Chelsie, Michigan. This is a 22 mile rollercoaster with quite a 
> bit of climbing & fast, accurate shifting is mandatory. Any other forum 
> than this one and I would no doubt get ridiculed for this; last year I did 
> this trail regularly on a full suspension Carbon bike with 1x12 AXS 
> shifting. I fully expect to be slower but much more comfortable. I cannot 
> imagine the 7 speed not being very good for your application.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 9, 2023, at 8:36 PM, J Schwartz  wrote:
>
> Greetings 
>
> Is anyone using that "Jim" cassette and, if so, are you pairing it with a 
> double or going 1x?
> How's is working for you?
> Thinking of using it 1x for a townie / grocery getter Chev.
> thanks
> JS
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[RBW] FS: Sam Hillborne 51cm HiHo Silver F+F new in box

[Taylor M]

Hi all,

Happy Spring!

Up for sale is a new Sam Hillborne 51cm in HiHo Silver from the most recent 
run. Frame+fork was ordered from and shipped by Rivendell, and is still in 
the box. Happy to open up the box and take photos for serious inquiries. 

Asking $1750 net to me. Located in the Boston area and prefer a local sale, 
but willing to ship CONUS. Buyer covers shipping and PayPal / Venmo fees.

Have parts for a build as well (Cliffhanger rims, Silver cranks, Paul 
Motolites, BxB bags, etc.).

Cheers,
Taylor

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Watch our for scammers in the group

[Patrick Moore]

I'm surprised at this, having bought and sold many times on this list (and
even much more on the Boblist) with no problems I can remember except 2 or
3 instances of excited people piping up ME! ME! ME! upon a FS announcement
and then never replying to your email replies.

Conway, can you elaborate on the grief? Just invalid paypal payments?

Others, can you describe your bad experiences of selling and buying onlist?



On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 6:00 AM Conway Bennett <
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> Yes, lots of lurkers here.  I recently have had issues with questionable
> PayPal payments and having unknown quantities ask a bunch of questions
> about FS: items then disappear.  I actually prefer just selling on eBay now
> because of the grief associated with the list.
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Watch our for scammers in the group

[J J]

I sold the Blue Lug bucket hat to a list member, and was sorry to hear you 
were subjected to that, Johnny.

I’ve bought and sold a decent number of items since I’ve been hanging out 
here and I've never had any problems either way. Nothing even hinted of a 
scam attempt.

I try to err on the side of giving too much info about the stuff I sell. 
There should be no surprises for a buyer. I’ve found folks buying and 
selling through this forum super friendly, civil, and laid back. I’ve 
struck up some very nice correspondences and phone chats with like-minded 
bike and Rivendell nerds. It was clear folks were genuinely interested in 
the items.

(An aside: I was surprised by the volume of email I got about the Blue Lug 
hat. Who knew it was such a hot item? Too bad it was just a tad small for 
my head!)

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 10:08:15 AM UTC-4 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ve never had problems with members here but I have been reached out by 
> names I don’t recognize. Usually they just ended up never responding. I 
> think they fell under the lurker/non-participant category and not the 
> unknown scammer category. 
>
> I’m a member of another forum that is HUGE. Too big for it to be enjoyable 
> sometimes. But on that forum they have what’s called a “Good Trader” thread 
> and it’s a thread where folks can post about positive experiences with 
> other folks they done transactions with. Maybe we can start one of those…
>
> It’s disheartening to hear that scammers have found their way here but a 
> quick search on past posts is enough to put my mind at ease when dealing 
> with sellers or buyers. 
>
> Joe in Los Angeles
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 6:58:51 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> For the record I've never had this problem and I've sold a ton of stuff 
>> here over the years. I try to describe my parts and pricing clearly and 
>> post photos, I'll get a couple questions - usually them trying to work out 
>> if the item will fit their use case well - and it sells or they bow out. 
>> Not much grief for me from the list. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 4:59:57 AM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, lots of lurkers here.  I recently have had issues with questionable 
>>> PayPal payments and having unknown quantities ask a bunch of questions 
>>> about FS: items then disappear.  I actually prefer just selling on eBay now 
>>> because of the grief associated with the list.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 6:43:26 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Peter — This RBW group and all posts are visible to people who are not 
 members. Individuals' email addresses are hidden by Groups when posting. 
 However, if a poster includes their email address in the text of their 
 message it remains visible. 

 In my experience iBOB and the CR groups are not visible unless you're a 
 member. 

 When I receive emails about items that I've listed for sale from names 
 I don't recognize the first thing I do is search their email address in 
 the 
 forum. If they haven't posted or shared to the group I often ignore the 
 request. 

 On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 3:06:48 PM UTC-4 divis...@gmail.com wrote:

> Is this group readable by non-members? I know that Google Groups has 
> settings that allow an administrator to block reading to anyone who's not 
> an authorized member, or at least such settings used to exist; the 
> Classic 
> Rendezvous group uses them. They may be a holdover from some older era of 
> group settings.
>
> There are obviously drawbacks from locking the group off from outside 
> observers, mostly that you'll get fewer new members if you don't offer a 
> free taste. But it would cut down on email harvesting.
>
> Peter "eternally vigilant, and not at all paranoid, no no no" Adler
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 9:20:14 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
> Just as a PSA, I have had no prior issues with getting contacted on 
> this group so wanted to let everyone know that it can and does happen 
> even 
> in trusted groups.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Wolbis/Susie

[Ryan Frahm]

$1600 + shipping for the frameset. 

Tosco and FacePlater sold. Cranks still available. 172 2 piece Silver crank 
32/22 with like new Race Face BB. Less than 500 miles on the crank, all 
cleaned and ready. 

On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 9:27:38 AM UTC-7 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> Frameset still available! Not packed in the box yet in case anyone wants 
> other pictures. Still asking $1700 + shipping but make me an offer, never 
> know! 
>
> Cranks, 65 Tosco and 135 31.8 FacePlater also available. 
> On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 8:43:46 PM UTC-7 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> Bump. Frameset still available!
>>
>> On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 11:35:32 AM UTC-7 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>
>>> I think I need your couch Joe!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 4:37:10 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 I hear ya, Richard. 3cm shorter and I'd be digging for change in the 
 couch! 

 On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 11:53:20 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Someone is missing a great opportunity here.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 18, 2023, at 11:12 AM, Ryan Frahm  wrote:
>
> Mostly looking to sell the frameset and some parts now. $1700 + 
> shipping obo. 
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 9:12:23 AM UTC-7 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> $1700 Frameset + shipping 
>> $650 Wheelset + shipping 
>>
>> Just in case those are more appealing. Thanks for looking!
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 3:48:25 PM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>
>>> Bump, still for sale!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 9:15:39 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>>

 Hi David! My PBH is 90.5 cm and the post in the picture had a 
 Berthoud saddle at a fuzz over 30.5” if that helps. I don’t want a 
 longer 
 stem than 135 so I think an XL would have fit me better. Arm length 
 and 
 whether you will run a swept back bar makes a big difference in fit. 
 If I 
 was running a more regular say 30 degree sweep bar, then the Large is 
 probably a perfect fit with the 85mm stem. I think the XL would work 
 with 
 either bar with the right stem though. 
 On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 9:04:40 AM UTC-8 David Wadstrup wrote:

>
> Sadly, buying this beautiful bike is not currently an option for 
> me.  But, I was wondering if anyone could offer what they think would 
> be a 
> max pbh for this large frame.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
> On Friday, March 3, 2023 at 2:49:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Bump. $3000 +shipping. 
>>
>> Rich built WI hub wheelset.
>> 135 31.8 FacePlater with 65cm Tosco.
>> Nitto S65 seatpost.
>> DXR brakes and levers. 
>> 2.5” Teravail Ehline
>> Silver cranks.
>> Silver shifter with 10sp Sram GX derailleur.
>>
>> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 11:49:44 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Joe! Over the last few years I just haven’t seen them sit 
>>> very often. At least I don’t “need” to sell it. Spring time and tax 
>>> return 
>>> season is coming. Haha. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 11:37:04 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Great bike, great color, it's just kind of a niche within the 
 Riv niche so it'll take a while to find the right buyer. Spring is 
 coming! 

 On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:54:38 AM UTC-8 
 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you Keith, I appreciate that! I feel like it’s a pretty 
> good deal so I’m happy to hear I’m not totally crazy there. Not 
> in a rush 
> for now but if it keeps sitting here I’m going to start riding it 
> again 
> soon! I took the saddle of to help temptation.
>
> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:40:50 AM UTC-8 iamkeith 
> wrote:
>
>> Don't give up, don't get impatient or desperate,  and don't 
>> entertain low-ball offers.  This bike is almost perfect:  best 
>> size, best 
>> color, best wheels, best crankset, best cockpit.  Someone just 
>> needs to 
>> realize it.  I wish I could afford it right now  for a spare to 
>> my orange 
>> one.  Someone is going to be very happy though
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, February 18, 2023 at 10:09:06 AM UTC-7 
>> fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Finally got it all back together and cleaned up. Put a new 
>>> Jim 13-42 cassette on so I didn’t have to swap the 

[RBW] Re: PSA: Watch our for scammers in the group

[Joe Mullins]

I’ve never had problems with members here but I have been reached out by 
names I don’t recognize. Usually they just ended up never responding. I 
think they fell under the lurker/non-participant category and not the 
unknown scammer category. 

I’m a member of another forum that is HUGE. Too big for it to be enjoyable 
sometimes. But on that forum they have what’s called a “Good Trader” thread 
and it’s a thread where folks can post about positive experiences with 
other folks they done transactions with. Maybe we can start one of those…

It’s disheartening to hear that scammers have found their way here but a 
quick search on past posts is enough to put my mind at ease when dealing 
with sellers or buyers. 

Joe in Los Angeles
On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 6:58:51 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> For the record I've never had this problem and I've sold a ton of stuff 
> here over the years. I try to describe my parts and pricing clearly and 
> post photos, I'll get a couple questions - usually them trying to work out 
> if the item will fit their use case well - and it sells or they bow out. 
> Not much grief for me from the list. 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 4:59:57 AM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, lots of lurkers here.  I recently have had issues with questionable 
>> PayPal payments and having unknown quantities ask a bunch of questions 
>> about FS: items then disappear.  I actually prefer just selling on eBay now 
>> because of the grief associated with the list.
>>
>> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 6:43:26 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Peter — This RBW group and all posts are visible to people who are not 
>>> members. Individuals' email addresses are hidden by Groups when posting. 
>>> However, if a poster includes their email address in the text of their 
>>> message it remains visible. 
>>>
>>> In my experience iBOB and the CR groups are not visible unless you're a 
>>> member. 
>>>
>>> When I receive emails about items that I've listed for sale from names I 
>>> don't recognize the first thing I do is search their email address in the 
>>> forum. If they haven't posted or shared to the group I often ignore the 
>>> request. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 3:06:48 PM UTC-4 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Is this group readable by non-members? I know that Google Groups has 
 settings that allow an administrator to block reading to anyone who's not 
 an authorized member, or at least such settings used to exist; the Classic 
 Rendezvous group uses them. They may be a holdover from some older era of 
 group settings.

 There are obviously drawbacks from locking the group off from outside 
 observers, mostly that you'll get fewer new members if you don't offer a 
 free taste. But it would cut down on email harvesting.

 Peter "eternally vigilant, and not at all paranoid, no no no" Adler
 Berkeley, CA/USA

 On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 9:20:14 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

 Just as a PSA, I have had no prior issues with getting contacted on 
 this group so wanted to let everyone know that it can and does happen even 
 in trusted groups.



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[RBW] Re: PSA: Watch our for scammers in the group

[Joe Bernard]

For the record I've never had this problem and I've sold a ton of stuff 
here over the years. I try to describe my parts and pricing clearly and 
post photos, I'll get a couple questions - usually them trying to work out 
if the item will fit their use case well - and it sells or they bow out. 
Not much grief for me from the list. 

Joe Bernard 

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 4:59:57 AM UTC-7 captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yes, lots of lurkers here.  I recently have had issues with questionable 
> PayPal payments and having unknown quantities ask a bunch of questions 
> about FS: items then disappear.  I actually prefer just selling on eBay now 
> because of the grief associated with the list.
>
> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 6:43:26 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Peter — This RBW group and all posts are visible to people who are not 
>> members. Individuals' email addresses are hidden by Groups when posting. 
>> However, if a poster includes their email address in the text of their 
>> message it remains visible. 
>>
>> In my experience iBOB and the CR groups are not visible unless you're a 
>> member. 
>>
>> When I receive emails about items that I've listed for sale from names I 
>> don't recognize the first thing I do is search their email address in the 
>> forum. If they haven't posted or shared to the group I often ignore the 
>> request. 
>>
>> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 3:06:48 PM UTC-4 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Is this group readable by non-members? I know that Google Groups has 
>>> settings that allow an administrator to block reading to anyone who's not 
>>> an authorized member, or at least such settings used to exist; the Classic 
>>> Rendezvous group uses them. They may be a holdover from some older era of 
>>> group settings.
>>>
>>> There are obviously drawbacks from locking the group off from outside 
>>> observers, mostly that you'll get fewer new members if you don't offer a 
>>> free taste. But it would cut down on email harvesting.
>>>
>>> Peter "eternally vigilant, and not at all paranoid, no no no" Adler
>>> Berkeley, CA/USA
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 9:20:14 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
>>> Just as a PSA, I have had no prior issues with getting contacted on this 
>>> group so wanted to let everyone know that it can and does happen even in 
>>> trusted groups.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 61cm Roadini with great build

[James]

Bump on this.  Lots of interest but no follow-through

On Saturday, April 1, 2023 at 9:27:04 PM UTC-4 James wrote:

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Watch our for scammers in the group

[Ryan]

I thought you had to be vetted by Cyclofiend Jim,who I assume still 
administers this list, before you could post.

If I just browse this list without signing on to it with my Google account, 
I cannot see anyone's profile with their email. If I sign on to post, I can 
see email addresses...however, that's not to say this security feature 
can't be compromised, unfortunately.And, as Eric points out, if  someone 
embeds their email address within the text of their post, anyone can see it.

Probably just reiterating what Eric said.

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 7:29:03 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I was aware that anyone could view the forums but I (wrongly) assumed that 
> only members could post or message other members.
>
> On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 7:59:57 AM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, lots of lurkers here.  I recently have had issues with questionable 
>> PayPal payments and having unknown quantities ask a bunch of questions 
>> about FS: items then disappear.  I actually prefer just selling on eBay now 
>> because of the grief associated with the list.
>>
>> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 6:43:26 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Peter — This RBW group and all posts are visible to people who are not 
>>> members. Individuals' email addresses are hidden by Groups when posting. 
>>> However, if a poster includes their email address in the text of their 
>>> message it remains visible. 
>>>
>>> In my experience iBOB and the CR groups are not visible unless you're a 
>>> member. 
>>>
>>> When I receive emails about items that I've listed for sale from names I 
>>> don't recognize the first thing I do is search their email address in the 
>>> forum. If they haven't posted or shared to the group I often ignore the 
>>> request. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 3:06:48 PM UTC-4 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Is this group readable by non-members? I know that Google Groups has 
 settings that allow an administrator to block reading to anyone who's not 
 an authorized member, or at least such settings used to exist; the Classic 
 Rendezvous group uses them. They may be a holdover from some older era of 
 group settings.

 There are obviously drawbacks from locking the group off from outside 
 observers, mostly that you'll get fewer new members if you don't offer a 
 free taste. But it would cut down on email harvesting.

 Peter "eternally vigilant, and not at all paranoid, no no no" Adler
 Berkeley, CA/USA

 On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 9:20:14 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

 Just as a PSA, I have had no prior issues with getting contacted on 
 this group so wanted to let everyone know that it can and does happen even 
 in trusted groups.



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[RBW] Re: PSA: Watch our for scammers in the group

[Johnny Alien]

I was aware that anyone could view the forums but I (wrongly) assumed that 
only members could post or message other members.

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 7:59:57 AM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yes, lots of lurkers here.  I recently have had issues with questionable 
> PayPal payments and having unknown quantities ask a bunch of questions 
> about FS: items then disappear.  I actually prefer just selling on eBay now 
> because of the grief associated with the list.
>
> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 6:43:26 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Peter — This RBW group and all posts are visible to people who are not 
>> members. Individuals' email addresses are hidden by Groups when posting. 
>> However, if a poster includes their email address in the text of their 
>> message it remains visible. 
>>
>> In my experience iBOB and the CR groups are not visible unless you're a 
>> member. 
>>
>> When I receive emails about items that I've listed for sale from names I 
>> don't recognize the first thing I do is search their email address in the 
>> forum. If they haven't posted or shared to the group I often ignore the 
>> request. 
>>
>> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 3:06:48 PM UTC-4 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Is this group readable by non-members? I know that Google Groups has 
>>> settings that allow an administrator to block reading to anyone who's not 
>>> an authorized member, or at least such settings used to exist; the Classic 
>>> Rendezvous group uses them. They may be a holdover from some older era of 
>>> group settings.
>>>
>>> There are obviously drawbacks from locking the group off from outside 
>>> observers, mostly that you'll get fewer new members if you don't offer a 
>>> free taste. But it would cut down on email harvesting.
>>>
>>> Peter "eternally vigilant, and not at all paranoid, no no no" Adler
>>> Berkeley, CA/USA
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 9:20:14 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
>>> Just as a PSA, I have had no prior issues with getting contacted on this 
>>> group so wanted to let everyone know that it can and does happen even in 
>>> trusted groups.
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for: 55 cm Platypus for friend

[Doug H.]

Custom color! Can you give us a hint? I can't wait to see photos.
Doug

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 12:35:34 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> This is so exciting!!!  I look forward to seeing pics and perhaps hearing 
> a story. 
>
> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 1:38:23 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, thank you, Johnny, I did see that one and sent it! And guess what - 
>> she bought it! Another happy RivSister! The best part is she plans to do a 
>> custom color. I am so excited to see it when it is repainted.
>>
>> On Apr 9, 2023, at 2:33 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>
>> It looks like Crust has one in stock.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://crustbikes.com/collections/frames/products/rivendell-platypus?variant=39322369884250
>>
>> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 1:31:18 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Friends!
>>>
>>> A RivSister is looking for a 55 Platy frame to build up, if anyone has 
>>> one that is gathering dust. You know I can’t abide by a sad RivSister. PM 
>>> me, if you’ve got one you’d like to sell. I so appreciate it!
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
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[RBW] Re: PSA: Watch our for scammers in the group

[Conway Bennett]

Yes, lots of lurkers here.  I recently have had issues with questionable 
PayPal payments and having unknown quantities ask a bunch of questions 
about FS: items then disappear.  I actually prefer just selling on eBay now 
because of the grief associated with the list.

On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 6:43:26 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Peter — This RBW group and all posts are visible to people who are not 
> members. Individuals' email addresses are hidden by Groups when posting. 
> However, if a poster includes their email address in the text of their 
> message it remains visible. 
>
> In my experience iBOB and the CR groups are not visible unless you're a 
> member. 
>
> When I receive emails about items that I've listed for sale from names I 
> don't recognize the first thing I do is search their email address in the 
> forum. If they haven't posted or shared to the group I often ignore the 
> request. 
>
> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 3:06:48 PM UTC-4 divis...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Is this group readable by non-members? I know that Google Groups has 
>> settings that allow an administrator to block reading to anyone who's not 
>> an authorized member, or at least such settings used to exist; the Classic 
>> Rendezvous group uses them. They may be a holdover from some older era of 
>> group settings.
>>
>> There are obviously drawbacks from locking the group off from outside 
>> observers, mostly that you'll get fewer new members if you don't offer a 
>> free taste. But it would cut down on email harvesting.
>>
>> Peter "eternally vigilant, and not at all paranoid, no no no" Adler
>> Berkeley, CA/USA
>>
>> On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 9:20:14 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>> Just as a PSA, I have had no prior issues with getting contacted on this 
>> group so wanted to let everyone know that it can and does happen even in 
>> trusted groups.
>>
>>

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