[RBW] Re: Saris Freedom and Clem 64

[Nick Shoemaker]

I’ve gotten my 64 to fit in an older version of that rack - you can make it 
work, but the tires won’t quite fit down in the tray. It’s secure, if not 
confidence-inspiring.

I recently upgraded to a 1up and it’s dreamy - plenty of space for all that 
wonderful wheelbase!

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 1:54:23 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:

> Does anyone here know if I can fit a Clem 64 on a Saris Freedom EX-2 hitch 
> rack?
>
> The spec for the rack says up to 50” wheelbase and this Clem measures 52” 
> center of hub to center of hub.
>
> Thanks
> Max
>
> PS I saw there used to be a long wheelbase bar but they seem to be out of 
> stock everywhere.

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: VO Grand Cru Mid-Reach Brakes.

[Ryan]

And paired with TRP levers a great combination...TRP levers come in black 
as well at 64.99 if it's black Grand Cru you're after

https://trpcycling.com/product/rrl-alloy/ 

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 7:18:13 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> The VO grand cru brakes are amazing with salmon pads. Such incredible 
> modulation and braking power. Also beautiful 
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 4:25 PM Collin A  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Garth!
>>
>> I'll wait and see if some folks are looking to offload a set of the 
>> brakes before I pull the trigger. I've got a coupon for VO, but then it 
>> throws $19 for shipping afterwards so this website is actually cheaper!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 4:05:38 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> I ordered the same frame Collin and ordered the VO brakes from 
>>> Northwestbicycle. I used a promo code "bikesrock" for 15% off, for $148.75 
>>> total. They have black and silver. 
>>> https://northwestbicycle.com/products/velo-orange-grand-cru-long-reach-front-and-rear-brakeset-black-br7705
>>>
>>> I know VO sometimes has sitewide sales and all, but I wasn't going to 
>>> wait around myself. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:32:18 PM UTC-4 Collin A wrote:
>>>
 Heyo,

 I ended up ordering the upcoming VO rando to satisfy a roadie itch and 
 now slowly gathering the associated parts for it. I contemplated the 
 recent 
 run of the Roadinis, but the seatpost diam and longer brake reach wasn't 
 to 
 my liking for the kind of build I was envisioning.

 Anyone holding a pair? Or equivalent options from shimano (BR-650) or 
 TRP (RG957)? Black would be nice...

 Also, if anyone has a decent 100/130 rim brake wheelset that is 
 gathering dust, let me know!

 Cheers,
 Collin, commuting on his Appaloosa on Amtrak, in Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Romulus

[Michael Hammer]

No surprise there, bubba.


On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 11:01:28 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Local to me so I nabbed this one.  :)
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:53:38 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:
>
>> Amazing deal! If this was my size and there was someone willing I'd be 
>> asking for a proxy... 
>> Igor
>> -Michigan
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:15:46 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi bapeterson — I see the bike is available for local pickup only. You 
>>> didn't mention where you're located but guessing from your email somewhere 
>>> near Cal Berkeley? 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:08:46 PM UTC-4 bapet...@berkeley.edu 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Original owner. 59cm Romulus purchased in Walnut Creek.  $800 or best 
 offer

 Standard Riv Build:
 105 hubs
 araya rims
 105 headset
 105 Front der
 deore rear der
 shimano std reach side pull brakes (not sure which model)
 sugino xd2 triple
 11-32 cassette
 nitto s65 seatpost
 nitto moustache bar
 nitto technomic 8cm stem
 silver bar end shifters
 tiagra brake levers

 Local pickup only. No shipping
 Cash or Venmo

 Thanks for considering



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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: VO Grand Cru Mid-Reach Brakes.

[Eliot Balogh]

The VO grand cru brakes are amazing with salmon pads. Such incredible
modulation and braking power. Also beautiful

On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 4:25 PM Collin A  wrote:

> Thanks Garth!
>
> I'll wait and see if some folks are looking to offload a set of the brakes
> before I pull the trigger. I've got a coupon for VO, but then it throws $19
> for shipping afterwards so this website is actually cheaper!
>
> Cheers,
> Collin
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 4:05:38 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:
>
>> I ordered the same frame Collin and ordered the VO brakes from
>> Northwestbicycle. I used a promo code "bikesrock" for 15% off, for $148.75
>> total. They have black and silver.
>> https://northwestbicycle.com/products/velo-orange-grand-cru-long-reach-front-and-rear-brakeset-black-br7705
>>
>> I know VO sometimes has sitewide sales and all, but I wasn't going to
>> wait around myself.
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:32:18 PM UTC-4 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Heyo,
>>>
>>> I ended up ordering the upcoming VO rando to satisfy a roadie itch and
>>> now slowly gathering the associated parts for it. I contemplated the recent
>>> run of the Roadinis, but the seatpost diam and longer brake reach wasn't to
>>> my liking for the kind of build I was envisioning.
>>>
>>> Anyone holding a pair? Or equivalent options from shimano (BR-650) or
>>> TRP (RG957)? Black would be nice...
>>>
>>> Also, if anyone has a decent 100/130 rim brake wheelset that is
>>> gathering dust, let me know!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin, commuting on his Appaloosa on Amtrak, in Berkeley
>>>
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Re: [RBW] A College Clem

[藍俊彪]

I resisted moving to Los Altos as long as I could, but having moved here, I
will say that the riding is superlative compared even to Sunnyvale. All the
hills you can get, while the valley being flat enough that the kids can
bike to school without complaining. I was quite impressed to see so many
kids riding to school and even more impressed that the elementary school
had a bike cage that locked once classes started!

On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 4:54 PM Kim H.  wrote:

> @Piaw - I had a feeling you would be chiming in after me mentioning of Los
> Altos and Foothill College.
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 4:30:28 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Foothill/Los Altos isn't the den of bike thieves that a big city college
>> campus like Berkeley or City College San Francisco is going to be. Of
>> course, my mother in law left a $1700 REI ebike unattended outside ranch 99
>> for a few minutes while shopping and of course it was gone before she came
>> back.
>>
>> Here's the thing: if you can be bothered to be on a bicycle mailing list
>> at all you're probably a bikie and would care about bikes.  Someone who's
>> not a bike (like me during my freshman year in college) is going to get a
>> bike stolen and shrug. (I hurt more from my MIL losing her ebike than she
>> did --- she shrugged and walked home --- needless to say we did not buy her
>> another expensive bike to replace the one that was stolen!)
>>
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Re: [RBW] A College Clem

[Kim H.]

@Piaw - I had a feeling you would be chiming in after me mentioning of Los 
Altos and Foothill College.

Kim Hetzel.

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 4:30:28 PM UTC-7 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Foothill/Los Altos isn't the den of bike thieves that a big city college 
> campus like Berkeley or City College San Francisco is going to be. Of 
> course, my mother in law left a $1700 REI ebike unattended outside ranch 99 
> for a few minutes while shopping and of course it was gone before she came 
> back.
>
> Here's the thing: if you can be bothered to be on a bicycle mailing list 
> at all you're probably a bikie and would care about bikes.  Someone who's 
> not a bike (like me during my freshman year in college) is going to get a 
> bike stolen and shrug. (I hurt more from my MIL losing her ebike than she 
> did --- she shrugged and walked home --- needless to say we did not buy her 
> another expensive bike to replace the one that was stolen!) 
>

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Re: [RBW] A College Clem

[Piaw Na]

Foothill/Los Altos isn't the den of bike thieves that a big city college 
campus like Berkeley or City College San Francisco is going to be. Of 
course, my mother in law left a $1700 REI ebike unattended outside ranch 99 
for a few minutes while shopping and of course it was gone before she came 
back.

Here's the thing: if you can be bothered to be on a bicycle mailing list at 
all you're probably a bikie and would care about bikes.  Someone who's not 
a bike (like me during my freshman year in college) is going to get a bike 
stolen and shrug. (I hurt more from my MIL losing her ebike than she did 
--- she shrugged and walked home --- needless to say we did not buy her 
another expensive bike to replace the one that was stolen!) 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: VO Grand Cru Mid-Reach Brakes.

[Collin A]

Thanks Garth!

I'll wait and see if some folks are looking to offload a set of the brakes 
before I pull the trigger. I've got a coupon for VO, but then it throws $19 
for shipping afterwards so this website is actually cheaper!

Cheers,
Collin

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 4:05:38 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> I ordered the same frame Collin and ordered the VO brakes from 
> Northwestbicycle. I used a promo code "bikesrock" for 15% off, for $148.75 
> total. They have black and silver. 
> https://northwestbicycle.com/products/velo-orange-grand-cru-long-reach-front-and-rear-brakeset-black-br7705
>
> I know VO sometimes has sitewide sales and all, but I wasn't going to wait 
> around myself. 
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:32:18 PM UTC-4 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Heyo,
>>
>> I ended up ordering the upcoming VO rando to satisfy a roadie itch and 
>> now slowly gathering the associated parts for it. I contemplated the recent 
>> run of the Roadinis, but the seatpost diam and longer brake reach wasn't to 
>> my liking for the kind of build I was envisioning.
>>
>> Anyone holding a pair? Or equivalent options from shimano (BR-650) or TRP 
>> (RG957)? Black would be nice...
>>
>> Also, if anyone has a decent 100/130 rim brake wheelset that is gathering 
>> dust, let me know!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin, commuting on his Appaloosa on Amtrak, in Berkeley
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: VO Grand Cru Mid-Reach Brakes.

[Garth]

I ordered the same frame Collin and ordered the VO brakes from 
Northwestbicycle. I used a promo code "bikesrock" for 15% off, for $148.75 
total. They have black and silver. 
https://northwestbicycle.com/products/velo-orange-grand-cru-long-reach-front-and-rear-brakeset-black-br7705

I know VO sometimes has sitewide sales and all, but I wasn't going to wait 
around myself. 

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:32:18 PM UTC-4 Collin A wrote:

> Heyo,
>
> I ended up ordering the upcoming VO rando to satisfy a roadie itch and now 
> slowly gathering the associated parts for it. I contemplated the recent run 
> of the Roadinis, but the seatpost diam and longer brake reach wasn't to my 
> liking for the kind of build I was envisioning.
>
> Anyone holding a pair? Or equivalent options from shimano (BR-650) or TRP 
> (RG957)? Black would be nice...
>
> Also, if anyone has a decent 100/130 rim brake wheelset that is gathering 
> dust, let me know!
>
> Cheers,
> Collin, commuting on his Appaloosa on Amtrak, in Berkeley
>

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[RBW] Re: Wheel Builder

[Josh C]

Peter White. Thanks for the recommendation guys. 

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:08:43 PM UTC-4 Jon B wrote:

> I have been happy with three lightweight wheels Peter White built for me.
>
> With my first rear wheel (Mavic Open Pro rim), as I left the shop he said, 
> "It will never need truing."  I was skeptical, but over 20,000 miles later, 
> it has never been touched by a spoke wrench.
>
> Jon Blum
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 4:49:49 PM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:
>
>> Thanks. I've heard of Sugar but didn't think of that, I'll look into 
>> them. 
>>
>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:13:14 PM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I had several nice wheels over the years, including some Rich built. I 
>>> have to recommend Sugar wheel works. I had a set of SimWorks Stand-alone 
>>> rims (Velocity Cliffhanger) with CX ray spokes MI5 rear hub and Son front 
>>> and they were the nicest build I’ve ever seen by far. Great to work with 
>>> and the price was much better than some other options as well. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:56:10 PM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Laing. I do have a set of VO rims on a bike that I recently 
 acquired and like them so far. I've ridden on them throughout the summer 
 quite a bit. I like that they come in a polished finish but the highest 
 hole count is 36. I'm not sure how they will hold up just yet, but they 
 seem nice. Wish they did 'em in a 40h. I don't mind truing a wheel, and 
 have a truing stand, but I'd rather have a pro build the wheel. 

 On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:05:52 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> I almost always build my own wheels, but you cannot go wrong with 
> either Rich Lesnik (Rivendell / Hands On Wheels) or Peter White. I have 
> had 
> wheels from both, and they were flawless. Not local to you though, west 
> coast and east coast respectively.
>
> I use Velocity or Velo Orange rims; Phil Wood, White Industries, Paul, 
> Curtis Odom or classic Campagnolo hubs (Nuovo Record or Tipo); and 
> Wheelsmith (out of production but still out there) or Sapim spokes. Most 
> of 
> my wheels are now 40 and 48 spoke, but I do have quite a few 36 and even 
> a 
> couple 32s.
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:13:50 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>
>> I could use a recommendation for a good wheel builder. I've used 
>> prowheelbuilder.com in the past and have no complaints. Not sure how 
>> I landed on them. Just curious if there is another business that I 
>> should 
>> be looking into? I'm located in Indianapolis as well, and would prefer 
>> sending business to a local or at least midwest company if possible.  
>>
>> I'm looking for a set of 700c wheels for my Atlantis. I'm thinking 
>> I'll do velocity cliffhangers with a SON up front and a nice rear hub. 
>> The 
>> rear is not yet totally decided as I like quiet hubs but there are not 
>> many 
>> options in rim brake, 36-40h hubs these days. I've got an onyx silent 
>> hub 
>> on my crust and love it but they only go up to 32h and I'd prefer 36 or 
>> 40 
>> as I'm a big dude. Which is why I'm thinking about a white industry 
>> (loud 
>> as they come) rear hub in 36 or 40h. 
>>
>> Anyway. I'd like to hear about your preferred wheel builders. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Parts FS

[Hugh Smitham]

Neale,

Thank you for the kind endorsement,  I'll echo the same endorsement for
Neale. Very pleasant to deal with. Also enjoyed ogling his Atlantis.

Hugh

On Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 1:21 PM tellyoutoday  wrote:

> Following up to give Hugh a solid endorsement. Turns out he's local and we
> work a few blocks from each other - picked up some cranks from him
> yesterday in stellar shape and would not hesitate to transact with him in
> the future.
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:33:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>>  updated list with price decreases:
>>
>> Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard - QR5x100/130mm
>> - Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less than 100 miles
>> $200 pending
>>
>> Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $30
>>
>> Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $20
>>
>> Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $35
>>
>> Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $30
>>
>> Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $30
>>
>> Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $30
>>
>> Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $100
>>
>> Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $100
>>
>> Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $45
>>
>> Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $35
>>
>> Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending
>>
>> Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $70
>>
>> Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $70
>>
>> Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35
>>
>> Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5
>>
>> Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
>> IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50
>>
>>  https://photos.app.goo.gl/5t449A1ArEv237ir6
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 12:07:45 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 12:34:28 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's an updated list:
>>>
>>> Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard -
>>> QR5x100/130mm - Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less
>>> than 100 miles $200
>>>
>>> Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $42
>>>
>>> Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $25
>>>
>>> Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $42
>>>
>>> Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $42
>>>
>>> Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $40
>>>
>>> Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $40
>>>
>>> Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $120
>>>
>>> Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $120
>>>
>>> Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $60
>>>
>>> Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $40
>>>
>>> White Industries VBC SQ Taper arms 170mm (Used)  $175 Pending
>>>
>>> Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending
>>>
>>> Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $80
>>>
>>> Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $80
>>>
>>> Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35
>>>
>>> Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5
>>>
>>> Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
>>> IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50
>>>
>>>  https://photos.app.goo.gl/5t449A1ArEv237ir6
>>>
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[RBW] WTB: VO Grand Cru Mid-Reach Brakes.

[Collin A]

Heyo,

I ended up ordering the upcoming VO rando to satisfy a roadie itch and now 
slowly gathering the associated parts for it. I contemplated the recent run 
of the Roadinis, but the seatpost diam and longer brake reach wasn't to my 
liking for the kind of build I was envisioning.

Anyone holding a pair? Or equivalent options from shimano (BR-650) or TRP 
(RG957)? Black would be nice...

Also, if anyone has a decent 100/130 rim brake wheelset that is gathering 
dust, let me know!

Cheers,
Collin, commuting on his Appaloosa on Amtrak, in Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] A College Clem

[Kim H.]

I went to Foothill Junior College in Los Altos Hills, California from the 
fall of 1973 to June of 1977. You ask why I went there for four years ?  I 
had to be on my mother's employer's dental insurance to be covered for 
dental bridges for most of my entire mouth.

In the course of my college attendance, in December of 1973, I purchased 
for $380.00 my first real ten-speed bicycle a 1973 Cilo Sprintx 
semi-professional racing bicycle from owning a $150.00 Dutch Batavus 
ten-speed bike from the previous summer as an upgrade. Not knowing a lot 
about bicycles and what style of riding I enjoyed that most, I found myself 
selling most all of the Campagnolo componentry within six months of 
purchase, because the drive train gearing limited me from climbing the 
foothills above Santa Clara County to Skyline Boulevard SR 35 and beyond. 

I bought new componentry of the day that was the best of its time for my 
Cilo, such as Phil Wood hubs and pedals, Super Champion rims, Avocet 
saddle, Suntour Cyclone f/r derailleurs, T. A. Cyclotourist,crankset, 
Suntour Bar-Con ratchet shifters, Bluemel fenders and ultimately finding a 
NIB Campagnolo Nuovo Records side pull brakeset for my sports touring bike. 
The Campy brakeset was the ultimate cool to have back then. I purchase the 
brakeset for a bargain price of $75.00, plus tax !  They were going for 
$140.00 retail. 

I rode my Cilo to college year round from my parents house and back was 4.4 
miles. There were times that I rode my 1966 Raleigh three speed, as well. I 
did lock up my Raleigh three speed in a bike rack. It never got stolen. 
With my Cilo, I took it every where I went inside the classrooms and 
lecture halls, including the bathrooms around campus. It never left my 
sight. I never locked it up. It never has seen a kickstand either. 

When I was not attending college on the weekends, I would make my rounds of 
visiting all the bike shops in the area from I lived in Mountain View to 
Los Altos, Sunnyvale, Cupertino, to Palo Alto to see what was new and talk 
to a few of the owners or staff or ride solo up into the hills of Santa 
Cruz or ride with a friend out to Woodside and over to the coast through 
Portola Valley to San Gregorio to Half Moon Bay.

Over time, my Cilo became my favorite road bike of all for about forty 
years. It fit me perfectly in very way. It felt like a European sports car. 
I honestly cannot tell you how many miles I rode on it. Bicycle computers 
were not available back then. I never bothered to buy the old 
mileage/odometer meter. My guess would be between 3,000 to 5,000+ miles ? 

I retired my Cilo back in 2011, I grew older and riding in the drops was 
not comfortable anymore. I wanted to find another bicycle for an upright 
riding position and lower gearing. It took me a very long time for the 
right moment to purchase a Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle last year and fall in 
love again. Owing a Rivendell bike was the last thing I thought I would 
ever own.  I know now what it like to own a bicycle from Rivendell Bicycle 
Works. Thank-you, Grant Petersen !

Kim Hetzel
.sheltering inside my the intense heat in the low 90's today in air 
conditioning. I wish I could have stayed longer in Sitka, AK with grey 
clouds and rain. 
Yelm, WA. 

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:52:46 AM UTC-7 Davey Two Shoes wrote:

> Send Grandpa's Clem! 
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:29:17 PM UTC-4 Will wrote:
>
>> Oh yes it might help a bit if the bike didn't look so new. With a few 
>> duct tape patches that can be easily solved without hurting the frame. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:24:24 PM UTC-5 Will wrote:
>>
>>> When I was in college I had a Raleigh Competition and a Raleigh RRA 
>>> (French metric Raleigh bike). It was a small campus in Williamsburg, VA. I 
>>> had no problems with either bike. Yes, I locked them. Yes, I didn't leave 
>>> them out at night and so on, but my point is... with a good U lock and 
>>> maybe some wheel theft clamps, I think you'll be fine. No one is looking 
>>> for a classic steel bike  these days. Now they want carbon and disc brakes. 
>>> And there are plenty of those bikes to steal. I'd give him the Clem. 
>>>
>>> Will
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:05:31 PM UTC-5 mmille...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I've been thinking about this situation a lot. (And thinking back about 
 20 years to my time in college.) I was from a small town, and went to a 
 large public school. I learned a lot, and a lot of learning is through 
 mistakes. I did lots of dumb stuff, and minus the time I went flying over 
 the handlebars and got an ambulance ride, I was lucky to escape without 
 life-altering implications. My grandpa died when I was in college, and I 
 still treasure a few small items I have from him. Ultimately, things are 
 things, but some things mean more than others. It will be up to your 
 family 
 to decide the best route. I'm not sure it's been 

Re: [RBW] A College Clem

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Leah,
I probably can't add much to the discussion that hasn't already been 
mentioned aside from more personal anecdotes, but catching up on this 
thread has ignited some thoughts and reminiscing so will try my best to 
share my .02 cents without being redundant.  Fortunately, you have more 
time to figure things out but that same time leads to more fretting and 
potential for circumstances to change but best of luck with this decision 
and to your son on his journey either way.  Initially, I leaned to the 'get 
the lay of the land' perspective before being pressured to make a 'which 
bike decision' but I then realized this is also somewhat ironic in that 
depending on the school/campus just having a bike those first few weeks 
could in turn help your son get a better lay of he land!  

I attended a small, suburban, public school - I had no need for 
transportation to get around campus as it was easily walkable no matter 
where your dorm or classes were.  I didn't have a car on campus until 
halfway through my 2nd year. I didn't have a bike on campus until my 3rd 
year when I moved into an off-campus, but very local, private rental with 
friends and transported the bike from home to school in my own vehicle.  I 
was a fairweather bike commuter that 3rd year but had a garage to store it 
and never kept it locked overnight (that I recall) but would leave it 
locked up for extended periods in a somewhat high traffic area.  It was a 
90's MTB that I bought new at around 14-15yrs old as my first proper bike 
shop bike.  It was ridden heavily until I began driving.  Then it collected 
dust, aside from occasional summer use, until I came back to school that 
3rd year.  I was fortunate to go unscathed that year with nothing more than 
a small cable lock for security and still have the frame in use today!  
It's a basic, rigid MTB Mongoose branded bike which had reliable Shimano 
3x7 indexed components but by that point I think Mongoose had already 
devolved into a low end big box brand so wasn't likely drawing too much 
attention from even opportunistic thieves even though it predated the 
Mongoose sale/demise and is a decent Taiwan made chromoly frame with full 
Shimano components.  Despite sitting for a few years it showed it's age 
from it's heavy initial use and remained almost entirely stock with little 
more maintenance than an occasional chain lube.  I didn't have racks or 
carry spare tubes or a pump or anything and was really fortunate going 
flat-less and theft free that entire year (I'd eventually learn the hard 
way several years later to prepare and be self sufficient for flats and 
roadside mechanical failures!) 

4th year I moved further away into another rental and the bike went back 
home.  In hindsight, and based on my adult biking experience, the distance 
was certainly 'bike-commutable' but this rental lacked a garage so bike 
storage would have been relegated to a covered porch but in a more theft 
prone neighborhood so I just abandoned it for the year knowing I'd use it 
very little that year.  I was a 5th year undergrad student after cutting 
back to part time for my 4th year and brought the bike back for my 5th and 
final year but not for commuting purposes.  I moved even further from 
campus but we found a nice house adjacent to a rail trail system so the 
bike was purely for leisure rides along the trails that year and I again 
had a garage for overnight storage.

My own early college experience was also based on the fact that I did not 
come from a bicycle-centric family.  I rode everywhere in my teens but we 
as a family were nowhere near prepared to transport my bike to school that 
first or second year.  You already have that part all figured out with a 
car rack, etc.  Some dorms had racks out front but my sophomore dorm had 
basement bike storage - looking back I should have at least taken advantage 
of that opportunity with the basement bike rack.  I could have ventured off 
campus more frequently and at my leisure without relying on hitching a ride 
or borrowing a friends car.  Those fist two years were actually rather 
confining now that I reflect on it.  There was no need for transportation 
to get around campus just a need for transportation to get away from 
campus.  As a freshman I also lost my father unexpectedly a month into 
school and that set an unexpected trajectory into diving deep into my 
coursework but also into partying at the same time.  I was already a night 
owl in highschool but further deepened this routine of staying up all night 
and sleeping all day.  In hindsight, having a bicycle available may have 
provided more opportunities to explore other interests besides video games, 
partying, and my coursework and may have provided a little more motivation 
to get out and explore around town on weekends rather than choosing the 
more self destructive uses of my time.  Maybe... though probably not... 
just knowing where I was at the time and not having the 

[RBW] Re: Broken shifters

[Garth]

So I watched the video ... too bad they didn't show then removing the 
cover. If wd-40 doesn't work I'd still remove the cover and inspect the 
innards. This isn't a jet engine !  The cover may press back in or take a 
little finagling. The head of the rivet may need sheered off, I can't say 
for sure what it is as the Suntours I have screws. TMI here but . If 
you're handy with a drill you could use a drill and drill a small hole in 
the center of the riven and tap it for a small screw. You'd have to go to 
hardware store to find one. That may seem like a lot of work for a shifter, 
maybe not, it depends on how much one likes to monkey around  
heeheeehee. Gitarzan baby !  If anyone catches what that word refers to 
word, you get a cookie ! 

I also note that in the video they show the lever being tightened, and 
tightened again, like really tight. I've never tightened any of these 
levers like that since my first pair in 1983, which I still have and are 
working. I only tighten them enough to hold the shift, no more.. If it 
doesn't hold the shift, I don't tighten it more from where it is, I loosen 
it completely and then tighten it just a bit more than before. It's all by 
feel, with finesse. 


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[RBW] Re: Bike Parts FS

[tellyoutoday]

Following up to give Hugh a solid endorsement. Turns out he's local and we 
work a few blocks from each other - picked up some cranks from him 
yesterday in stellar shape and would not hesitate to transact with him in 
the future. 

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:33:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

>  updated list with price decreases: 
>
> Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard - QR5x100/130mm 
> - Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less than 100 miles 
> $200 pending
>
> Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $30
>
> Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $20
>
> Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $35
>
> Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $30
>
> Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $30
>
> Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $30
>
> Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $100
>
> Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $100
>
> Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $45
>
> Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $35
>
> Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending
>
> Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $70
>
> Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $70
>
> Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35
>
> Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5
>
> Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
> IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 
>
>  https://photos.app.goo.gl/5t449A1ArEv237ir6
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 12:07:45 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 12:34:28 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>> Here's an updated list: 
>>
>> Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard - QR5x100/130mm 
>> - Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less than 100 miles 
>> $200
>>
>> Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $42
>>
>> Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $25
>>
>> Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $42
>>
>> Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $42
>>
>> Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $40
>>
>> Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $40
>>
>> Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $120
>>
>> Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $120
>>
>> Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $60
>>
>> Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $40
>>
>> White Industries VBC SQ Taper arms 170mm (Used)  $175 Pending
>>
>> Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending
>>
>> Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $80
>>
>> Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $80
>>
>> Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35
>>
>> Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5
>>
>> Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
>> IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 
>>
>>  https://photos.app.goo.gl/5t449A1ArEv237ir6
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Wooly Warm tweed rollneck sweater

[Eric Marth]

Sold, thanks!

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 7:56:23 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> Now $60 plus shipping to you :) 
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 9:24:13 PM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Hi all — I have a Rivendell Wooly Warm rollneck turtleneck for sale. 
>> Looking for $75 plus shipping to you. One small hole near the left pit as 
>> shown. No pockets, medium weight. 
>>
>> [image: IMG_7052.JPG]
>>
>> It's labeled a size XXL but see measurements for best fit. 
>>
>>- Pit to pit: 24"
>>- Pit to cuff: 24"
>>- Top of shoulder to bottom hem: 29"
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>> [image: IMG_7056.JPG]
>>
>> [image: IMG_7054.JPG]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTT: Swift Panniers for Sackville HappiSack

[jaredwilson]

$200 + ship

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:03:34 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:

> Open to other colors, or other make/model medium-large bags.
>
> Thanks :)
>
> jared
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 9:04:32 AM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:
>
>> Will sell outright for what I paid, $220 + ship.
>>
>> NLA from Swift, super useful bags just overkill for what I have going on 
>> right now.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 5:20:13 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:
>>
>>> Looking to trade my pair of like new Swift panniers for a Sackville 
>>> HappiSack.
>>>
>>> I purchased these from group member Ryan Frahm earlier this year in like 
>>> new condition and used (1) bag about twice. 
>>>
>>> Some cat hair and dust from sitting around, I'll lint roll them before 
>>> shipping out, otherwise they're pretty much perfect condition.
>>>
>>> Looking for a tan, khaki, or olive HappiSack in good condition, bonus if 
>>> it has matching kangaroo pouch.
>>>
>>> Please respond off list if interested, thanks :)
>>>
>>> jared in central CA
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_7216.jpg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Mermaid Rivendell Platypus Complete

[jaredwilson]

*$3,000*

On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 1:56:57 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:

> Ergons came off for another project...
>
> Price drop, $3,150 for group members.
>
> Let's chat :)
>
> jared
>
> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 7:52:16 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:
>
>> Hi group,
>>
>> Changing directions and my Platypus is now available for purchase.
>>
>> 2021 60cm Mermaid Platypus, Serial Number M20114407
>>
>> Original owner *Hi, Mack!* purchased as frameset
>>
>> Stock FSA headset
>>
>> Tosco 60cm 25.4 handlebars
>>
>> Ergon cork grips
>>
>> Jims stem 12cm
>>
>> Paul Love Levers
>>
>> Shimano XT thumb shifters
>>
>> Shimano Deore V-brakes
>>
>> White Industries/Sugino triple crankset, 175mm, 42/36/24
>>
>> Stock bottom bracket
>>
>> Shimano XT FD *NOS at install, low miles*
>>
>> Shimano Deore LX rapid rise RD *NOS at install, low miles*
>>
>> Velocity Cliffhanger 700c rims 32h
>>
>> Sapim Force Spokes with brass nipples
>>
>> Son Deluxe Widebody dynamo hub
>>
>> White Industries MI5 rear hub
>>
>> Jims 7 speed 11-36 cassette
>>
>> Salsa skewers
>>
>> Panaracer Gravelking SK 700x50 tires
>>
>> Stock seat post
>>
>> Selle SMP TRK saddle
>>
>> Rivendell Shiny rear rack
>>
>>
>> Price: $3,300
>>
>>
>> Prefer local sales in CA, can deliver within reason for gas $$. If 
>> shipped, buyer pays all associated fees, Zelle payment only.
>>
>>
>> Please respond off list if interested, thanks :)
>>
>>
>> jared in central california
>>
>>
>> Platypus Photos 
>> 
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG_7209.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Romulus

[Bill Lindsay]

Local to me so I nabbed this one.  :)

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 5:53:38 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:

> Amazing deal! If this was my size and there was someone willing I'd be 
> asking for a proxy... 
> Igor
> -Michigan
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:15:46 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi bapeterson — I see the bike is available for local pickup only. You 
>> didn't mention where you're located but guessing from your email somewhere 
>> near Cal Berkeley? 
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:08:46 PM UTC-4 bapet...@berkeley.edu 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Original owner. 59cm Romulus purchased in Walnut Creek.  $800 or best 
>>> offer
>>>
>>> Standard Riv Build:
>>> 105 hubs
>>> araya rims
>>> 105 headset
>>> 105 Front der
>>> deore rear der
>>> shimano std reach side pull brakes (not sure which model)
>>> sugino xd2 triple
>>> 11-32 cassette
>>> nitto s65 seatpost
>>> nitto moustache bar
>>> nitto technomic 8cm stem
>>> silver bar end shifters
>>> tiagra brake levers
>>>
>>> Local pickup only. No shipping
>>> Cash or Venmo
>>>
>>> Thanks for considering
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Saris Freedom and Clem 64

[Max Faingezicht]

Does anyone here know if I can fit a Clem 64 on a Saris Freedom EX-2 hitch rack?

The spec for the rack says up to 50” wheelbase and this Clem measures 52” 
center of hub to center of hub.

Thanks
Max

PS I saw there used to be a long wheelbase bar but they seem to be out of stock 
everywhere.

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Re: [RBW] A College Clem

[Davey Two Shoes]

Send Grandpa's Clem! 

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:29:17 PM UTC-4 Will wrote:

> Oh yes it might help a bit if the bike didn't look so new. With a few 
> duct tape patches that can be easily solved without hurting the frame. 
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 5:24:24 PM UTC-5 Will wrote:
>
>> When I was in college I had a Raleigh Competition and a Raleigh RRA 
>> (French metric Raleigh bike). It was a small campus in Williamsburg, VA. I 
>> had no problems with either bike. Yes, I locked them. Yes, I didn't leave 
>> them out at night and so on, but my point is... with a good U lock and 
>> maybe some wheel theft clamps, I think you'll be fine. No one is looking 
>> for a classic steel bike  these days. Now they want carbon and disc brakes. 
>> And there are plenty of those bikes to steal. I'd give him the Clem. 
>>
>> Will
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:05:31 PM UTC-5 mmille...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been thinking about this situation a lot. (And thinking back about 
>>> 20 years to my time in college.) I was from a small town, and went to a 
>>> large public school. I learned a lot, and a lot of learning is through 
>>> mistakes. I did lots of dumb stuff, and minus the time I went flying over 
>>> the handlebars and got an ambulance ride, I was lucky to escape without 
>>> life-altering implications. My grandpa died when I was in college, and I 
>>> still treasure a few small items I have from him. Ultimately, things are 
>>> things, but some things mean more than others. It will be up to your family 
>>> to decide the best route. I'm not sure it's been mentioned before, but any 
>>> thought to taking an entirely different bike first semester/first year with 
>>> the plan to revisit taking the Clem second semester/sophomore year? 
>>>
>>> Good luck with your decision.
>>> Matt in STL
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 2:56:34 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Great story Mackenzy! I think many of us started on BMX bikes. I was an 
 80s kid and the group of guys in my neighborhood all had BMX bikes. In 
 college I rode a Trek mountain bike (low end) but also had a car so the 
 bike was primarily for exercise. I tried single speed a few years ago and 
 really enjoy the simplicity of it even with the limitations.
 Doug

 On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 3:31:13 PM UTC-4 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> Admittedly, I had almost the exact opposite issue as a college 
> student. I grew up without cyclists in my family, and think it's so rad 
> that there are parents like Leah to give a good starting point of living 
> a 
> happily car free college life. 
>
> I was messy messy messy in my hyperfocus niche interests (bikes). As 
> an adolescent I got into bmx bikes. I had a very high end BMX I kept in 
> my 
> dorm room under my bunk for the first two years. I worked at a skatepark 
> and rode with many professional friends. Eventually, a visiting friend 
> "from the city" brought his IRO fixed gear. I was absolutely smitten. He 
> taught me about fixed gear conversions - so I went to one on one bike 
> studios in Minneapolis and Gene helped me pick out a beat Schwinn Letour 
> in 
> my size and parts I needed to convert it to fixed. 
>
> Within the next few months - I befriended a local bike shop worker who 
> talked me into buying a 54cm Surly steam roller frame (I am 6' 2" mind 
> you) 
> for nearly wholesale as it'd been sitting for ever a year. My IRO friend 
> came back and took me down the biggest hill in town (sanfrancisco style) 
> on 
> that brakeless steamroller. Literally probably the stupidest day of my 
> life. We continued on a 40+K ride in the country side to a waterfall and 
> it 
> blew my mind. My friend with the IRO was also into racing on a geared 
> bike 
> - and informed me on the magic of "geared bikes" 
>
> I sold the steamroller and dropped all my savings on a Long haul 
> Trucker. Except - except they all fit weird and I didn't like the lng 
> top tube after a short period. So I traded it for Cross check. I despised 
> the cross check frame even more - but somebody offered to trade a geared 
> Karate Monkey for my Cross check. I rode the Karate Monkey for a while, 
> but 
> fell back in love with single speeds, so converted it to single speed and 
> rode that a long time. To my detriment "Ride the Divide" came out. Mark 
> Remier's first Generation Salsa Fargo was on display - dirt and all at 
> the 
> premier. Within the week I rode to Angry Catfish and picked up a Fargo in 
> my size. I loved that bike. That concluded my undergradI wont even 
> start on my bikes during my "Grad school years" 
>
> I was quite..."promiscuous" in my bike building because "college" is 
> for experimenting right? (I never drank or did drugs - most of my bike 

[RBW] Re: Bike Parts FS

[Hugh Smitham]

 updated list with price decreases: 

Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard - QR5x100/130mm - 
Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less than 100 miles 
$200 pending

Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $30

Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $20

Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $35

Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $30

Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $30

Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $30

Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $100

Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $100

Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $45

Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $35

Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending

Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $70

Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $70

Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35

Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5

Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 

 https://photos.app.goo.gl/5t449A1ArEv237ir6


On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 12:07:45 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 12:34:28 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
> Here's an updated list: 
>
> Tune TSR22 Wheelset - 28" | Clincher | MAG / MIG Standard - QR5x100/130mm 
> - Campagnolo ED 10/11/12 3T does not come with skewers, less than 100 miles 
> $200
>
> Sunrace M993 9sp 11-50t Blk (New) $42
>
> Sunrace RDM900 9sp Med Cage Blk (New) $25
>
> Shimano BL-R780 Brake Levers (New) $42
>
> Sugino 38t 110mm Chainring (New) $42
>
> Sugino 110mm BCD bash guard (Used) $40
>
> Tektro R539 Brakes Black (Used) $40
>
> Suntour XC Pro seat post 26.8mm 300mm L (New) $120
>
> Nitto S83 27.0mm 300mm seat post (New) $120
>
> Dia-Comp GranCompe  seat post 27.2mm 250mm L (New) $60
>
> Soma Sutro Stem 22.2 bar 25.4,100mm LG180 (New) $40
>
> White Industries VBC SQ Taper arms 170mm (Used)  $175 Pending
>
> Shimano XTR FD-M950 top pull front derailleur 28.6mm (New) $20 Pending
>
> Sim Works Quill Stem 110mm 25.4mm Black Tomboy (New) $80
>
> Shimano XTR 100mm rim brake hub no skewer $80
>
> Shimano BL-R780 22.2 Brake Levers Black/Silver (New) $35
>
> Uno seat post 25.4 ~300mm L Black (Used) $5
>
> Generic Aluminum seat post 31.6mm 350mm (used) $5
> IRD Shifter Mount Quill Stem ( Used) $50 
>
>  https://photos.app.goo.gl/5t449A1ArEv237ir6
>
>

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[RBW] Re: For Sale: Ibex merino cycling shorts (Made in USA)

[J S]

Ibex made great products when they were in VT before they sold their name. 
These are the good ones. 

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 7:56:42 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Now $40 plus shipping to you :o) 
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 11:48:43 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> *Correction: *These are size *large* note size medium as stated above. 
>> Thanks!
>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 11:46:54 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all — Looking for $50 plus shipping to you, price is net to me :o) 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_7043.JPG]
>>>
>>> Ibex cycling shorts. Black, 92% merino, 6% poly, 2% lycra. Made in USA. 
>>> Poly pad. These are in great overall shape, some light abrasions on the 
>>> rear panels below the pad as shown.  
>>>
>>> There are labeled a size medium but check these measurements to ensure 
>>> best fit. Lots of stretch in them but not stretched out or over-stretched. 
>>>
>>>- Waist laid flat, not stretched: 14" 
>>>- Inseam: 9" 
>>>- Rise: 18"
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_7044.JPG]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_7046.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_7039.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_7041.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_7040.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_7042.JPG]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Framework Designs Travellers Panniers

[Alex K]

sold quickly

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 2:21:17 PM UTC-7 Alex K wrote:

> Bought these off this list a year or so back.  Beautiful bags, but not 
> seeing a lot of bike touring happening in the near future and it's time to 
> sell off some things.
> Here's a link to the bags.  Perfect condition.
>
> https://bikepacking.com/gear/framework-designs-travellers-panniers-review/
>
> $140 shipped CONUS
>
> a c k s f 7 8 @gmail
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Ron’s ortho bars

[Kim H.]

I am tempted. However, I cannot pull myself away from being very happy with 
my Nitto Bosco bars.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 7:47:12 AM UTC-7 Davey Two Shoes wrote:

> youre gonna make someones day with this post!
>
> On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 1:39:31 AM UTC-4 edwardb...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Ordered the bars and realized a couple days ago I want a drop bar set up 
>> for my next build. In Oakland $120. Not shipping holla 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Mountain Works Elf Pouch

[Davey Two Shoes]

I think the chrome cardiel shank was the best cycling hip/fanny pack to 
come out. Unfortunately its out of production, fortunately I have 2. It 
doesnt quite hit the Riv aesthetic but its truly a fantastic bag. I use it 
daily on and off the bike.

On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 9:50:24 AM UTC-4 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the recommendation of Tom Bihn, Eric! I’ve been looking for a 
> moderately sized hip pouch to carry a phone, camera, book, wallet, etc. and 
> their “Bummer” bag looks nearly perfect! Great prices too.
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 9:47 AM Brian Turner  wrote:
>
>> I managed to snag one of these a few months back when Rivendell posted 
>> them. Since then, I've used it to carry my little Vortex birding binoculars 
>> and they fit perfectly with room for a few other small odds and ends. A 
>> John's Strap works great instead of fishing it through your belt if you 
>> want to be able to just grab it and go.
>>
>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 9:13:40 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Tom Bihn is a great source for Made in the USA pouches and organizers: 
>>> https://www.tombihn.com/collections/all-organizational-bags
>>>
>>> I have a few of their bags and pouches. Made in Seattle. 
>>>
>>> I also give a +1 to Igor's recommendation to order the RMW pouch 
>>> straight from RMW. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 8:47:23 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Good find, Igor !

 Kim.

 On Sun, Aug 13, 2023, 4:09 PM Igor  wrote:

> Could get one from the source 
> https://www.rivendellmountainworks.com/shop/elf-pouch-belt-pouch-for-hiking-and-travelling/
>
> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 6:15:13 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> As a suggestion for something to hold you over until the RIV MOUNTAIN 
>> WORKS ELF pouches return to being in stock again, I found a couple of 
>> pen 
>> and pencil holders for school supplies from Walmart that work real well, 
>> both for a tool pouch and another holding small items, like a tire tube, 
>> cell phone, snacks, etc.
>>
>>
>> https://www.walmart.com/browse/office-supplies/pencil-pouches/1229749_9412206_8443517_8299765?action=SignIn=true
>>
>>
>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/Casual-Gray-Large-Pencil-Cases-for-Students-Back-to-School-Stationery-Organizer-for-School-Office-Supplies/766051509
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA. 
>>
>> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 2:42:30 PM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve been waiting for these to come back but stupidly wasn’t signed 
>>> up for the back on stock notifications (I am now!) and missed this last 
>>> restock. They look super duper handy!
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 5:04 PM Joe Bernard  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Can also recommend - since the Elf Pouch is out of stock again - 
 the FlatSack. I don't actually use mine on the bike (it would fit in 
 my 
 Medium SaddleSack); I'm a transit bus driver and put paperwork, hole 
 punch, 
 Cliff Bar and my car key in it. Super handy! 

 https://www.rivbike.com/products/sackville-flatsack-olive


 On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 10:18:13 AM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:

> I'll second the usefulness of these little bags, I take mine with 
> my daily and love having my small items contained in one location.
>
> 10/10 recommend, congrats to those who got one before they sold 
> out, and when they come back I highly recommend picking one up.
>
> jared
>
> On Saturday, August 12, 2023 at 9:58:09 AM UTC-7 
> rockthr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> These weren't announced as 'back in stock', but I just found them 
>> on the website. I got one from the first batch and find it very 
>> useful. 
>> Belt loops on the back to make it a very nice hip pack for carrying 
>> the 
>> core essentials. 
>>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/rivendell-mountain-works-elf-pouch-belt-pouch
>>
>>
>> *disclaimer - if this post goes up after the bags sell out it's 
>> because I'm still a newb and my content gets reviewed before.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Ron’s ortho bars

[Davey Two Shoes]

youre gonna make someones day with this post!

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 1:39:31 AM UTC-4 edwardb...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Ordered the bars and realized a couple days ago I want a drop bar set up 
> for my next build. In Oakland $120. Not shipping holla 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ron’s Ortho Bars but no bike conundrum? Buy mine!

[Davey Two Shoes]

I think I'm going to try and trade a medium frame for a large. Cant keep 
staring at these in the closet!

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:08:57 PM UTC-4 philip@gmail.com wrote:

> If anyone has buyers remorse on the bars…
>
> You know where to find me!
>
> P. W.
> ~
> (917) 514-2207
> ~
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 14, 2023, at 10:29 AM, Davey Two Shoes  wrote:
>
> Hey Lucky,
> Could you tell me what the standover is for the MB4? Also is there room 
> for larger tires?
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 11:53:08 AM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:
>
>> For anyone who bought Ron’s bars only to find they don’t have a bike to 
>> put them on, allow me to shamelessly cross post my lovely 1993 MB-4 (for 
>> sale on iBOB and local CL), which I’m happy to sell without cockpit…
>> Ron’s bars would suit this bike exceptionally well!
>> Feel free to e-mail if I actually caught anyone’s interest;)
>> Liz in Sacramento 
>> [image: 00707_eKrnb9sdxrf_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
>>
>> Bridgestone MB-4 Classic 26” ATB - bicycles - by owner - bike sale 
>> 
>> sacramento.craigslist.org 
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
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[RBW] Nitto Riv 32F Racks in stock

[Davey Two Shoes]

Theres a couple available on the Somafab shop. I know mini front racks have 
been scarce lately - Looks like Nitto is starting to come back in.

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Campee 27F rack vs rack combos

[Jack Newcomb]

I've been waiting for the 27F to come back for almost a year now. Say it 
aint so!

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 11:28:01 PM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> I believe the 27F is out of production as is the 27R. Soma has a 27R for 
> sale…
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:25:50 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Andy Reed used three question marks:
>> 1. regarding the fact that the 27F is hard to find: "Any insights on 
>> this?"  Nope.  I always bought mine from Alex's Cycle in Japan and even 
>> they don't have it
>> 2. regarding the manufacturability: "Is it just an incredibly 
>> time-consuming rack, they only make a very small batch of them at a time?" 
>>  I'm sure it is time consuming, and I expect it's just low priority 
>> relative to other hot sellers.
>> 3. Regarding the status of the 27F: "is the Campee 27F still the GROAT 
>> and worth the wait?  I think it is indeed the superior front rack.  Whether 
>> it's worth the wait depends on the person doing the waiting.  I think that 
>> the best way to run the 27F is with rectangular panniers that are designed 
>> to fit that same size and shape.  If you've already got "normal" looking 
>> panniers from Ortlieb or similar, I think that's a weird looking setup.  I 
>> personally have one pair of Ostrich and one pair of Carradice panniers to 
>> run on my small collection of these Nitto front and rear racks.  I've got 2 
>> of the 27F fronts, one of the more burly "Mt Campee" front I think they 
>> call that the 20F.  I've also got two of the 700c rears, the 27R (or is it 
>> R27?).  
>>
>> The only way to do it better IMO is a custom that copies the setup but in 
>> lighter tubing or a more minimalist set of contact points designed around 
>> the bike.  Those top notch rack makers are in a class by themselves.  Off 
>> the shelf, the Nitto 27F is the business IMHO.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:44:22 AM UTC-7 andyree...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello group! 
>>> I recently purchased the Nitto Mini Campee front rack for my rando bag 
>>> with the idea of adding something like a TUBUS low rider or Marks Hub Area 
>>> rack (MF2) for pannier- carrying come S24O time. 
>>>
>>> Then I remembered Nitto's most grandiose front rack, the Campee 27F and 
>>> from my POV, that seems like the smartest, most elegant solution for a bike 
>>> that will always carry a central bag with the option of adding panniers. 
>>> The only rub is that rack is out of stock everywhere...it seems like Nitto 
>>> might not even be making it anymore *(this is pure speculation but it 
>>> also seems like VO dropped their front-camper rack as well)*. Any 
>>> insights on this? Is it just an incredibly time-consuming rack, they only 
>>> make a very small batch of them at a time? 
>>>
>>> The main reason why the Campee 27F is calling my name is that the 
>>> low-rider racks are both modular AND angled. It doesn't seem like the MF2 
>>> or Tubus offerings have that feature and I was wondering if anyone here 
>>> feels a difference in ride-quality between angled and vertical low-rider 
>>> panniers. 
>>>
>>> Would the Nitto Mini Campee and MF2 combo check all the boxes or is the 
>>> Campee 27F still the GROAT and worth the wait? 
>>>
>>> - Andrew
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Broken shifters

[Garth]

Pam, I have lots of Suntour Power shifters, both downtube and thumb 
versions and I've taken them all apart.. Those have a small screw that 
allows the user to get into the ratchet. They aren't replaceable, but like 
John mentioned you can flush and lube them with a light oil. I'm not sure 
if he's referring to just the washers or the ratchet itself, I'm referring 
to the rachet that's underneath the plate. From the photos of Riv versions 
do not have the screw, they seem press fit and where the screw was on the 
Suntour is what looks like a press fit sheered off rivet kind of thing. I'm 
not sure if you can use a screwdriver to pop that off or not, but what the 
heck, if they are unusable there's no harm in trying. I really doubt the 
ratchet mechanism is worn out. Gunked up, quite possibly, but not worn out. 
Even if you can't pop open the cover, you could try squirting some wd-40 in 
the seam and rotate it back and forth. That may be all it needs. Of course 
I'm not seeing and feeling them so all of this is based on my own hands on 
with the Suntour I have and dismantling them to get inside to see what's in 
there. Curiosity ! 

If the shifter is simply not holding a gear, as in not enough 
friction/pressure, you can also try adding another washer, which you'd have 
to go to hardware store with the shifter to find one about right. That may 
or may not help ! 

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:05:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:

> Hello Pam,
>
> I had a problem with Suntour power shifters (ratchet mechanism just like 
> the Silvers) which caused the ratchet to not work, sounded like it was 
> grinding or slipping. I found that by taking the shifter apart, cleaning 
> the washers and applying a thin coat of light oil helped. Worth a try. Not 
> sure if the oil is recommended or not, maybe someone else can chime in.
>
> Good luck,
> JohnS
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:29:08 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I have several broken Silver shifters.  The power ratchet doesn't work 
>> any more.  My question is if I can get a part to fix the ratchet.  If not, 
>> should I throw them in the metal recycling or is there anything I can use 
>> later?  I'm not a mechanical person.  I just know the ratchet wouldn't hold 
>> after I replaced the plastic washer and when I put a new shifter on, it 
>> worked.  
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Broken shifters

[JohnS]

If that doesn't help, you could repurpose them as key chains. I did that 
with some old Campy down tube shifters recently.

JohnS

On Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 9:05:13 AM UTC-4 JohnS wrote:

> Hello Pam,
>
> I had a problem with Suntour power shifters (ratchet mechanism just like 
> the Silvers) which caused the ratchet to not work, sounded like it was 
> grinding or slipping. I found that by taking the shifter apart, cleaning 
> the washers and applying a thin coat of light oil helped. Worth a try. Not 
> sure if the oil is recommended or not, maybe someone else can chime in.
>
> Good luck,
> JohnS
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:29:08 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I have several broken Silver shifters.  The power ratchet doesn't work 
>> any more.  My question is if I can get a part to fix the ratchet.  If not, 
>> should I throw them in the metal recycling or is there anything I can use 
>> later?  I'm not a mechanical person.  I just know the ratchet wouldn't hold 
>> after I replaced the plastic washer and when I put a new shifter on, it 
>> worked.  
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Broken shifters

[JohnS]

Hello Pam,

I had a problem with Suntour power shifters (ratchet mechanism just like 
the Silvers) which caused the ratchet to not work, sounded like it was 
grinding or slipping. I found that by taking the shifter apart, cleaning 
the washers and applying a thin coat of light oil helped. Worth a try. Not 
sure if the oil is recommended or not, maybe someone else can chime in.

Good luck,
JohnS

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 4:29:08 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

> I have several broken Silver shifters.  The power ratchet doesn't work any 
> more.  My question is if I can get a part to fix the ratchet.  If not, 
> should I throw them in the metal recycling or is there anything I can use 
> later?  I'm not a mechanical person.  I just know the ratchet wouldn't hold 
> after I replaced the plastic washer and when I put a new shifter on, it 
> worked.  

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[RBW] Re: FS: 59cm Romulus

[Igor]

Amazing deal! If this was my size and there was someone willing I'd be 
asking for a proxy... 
Igor
-Michigan

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 10:15:46 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi bapeterson — I see the bike is available for local pickup only. You 
> didn't mention where you're located but guessing from your email somewhere 
> near Cal Berkeley? 
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:08:46 PM UTC-4 bapet...@berkeley.edu 
> wrote:
>
>> Original owner. 59cm Romulus purchased in Walnut Creek.  $800 or best 
>> offer
>>
>> Standard Riv Build:
>> 105 hubs
>> araya rims
>> 105 headset
>> 105 Front der
>> deore rear der
>> shimano std reach side pull brakes (not sure which model)
>> sugino xd2 triple
>> 11-32 cassette
>> nitto s65 seatpost
>> nitto moustache bar
>> nitto technomic 8cm stem
>> silver bar end shifters
>> tiagra brake levers
>>
>> Local pickup only. No shipping
>> Cash or Venmo
>>
>> Thanks for considering
>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Noodles, Sackville Banana Sack, Silver downtube shifters

[James]

Small shopping list I have.  Trying here for used items before buying new

Nitto Noodles - 50, 52, or 54 cm (52 preferred)

Sackville Banana Sax

Silver Downtube shifters

Cane Creek 'bringbring' bell (or maybe a "bell for road levers")

Brooks black handlebar tape

Small Rons Fanny bag

Nitto bar-end plugs

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Campee 27F rack vs rack combos

[Luke Hendrickson]

I believe the 27F is out of production as is the 27R. Soma has a 27R for 
sale…

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 9:25:50 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Andy Reed used three question marks:
> 1. regarding the fact that the 27F is hard to find: "Any insights on 
> this?"  Nope.  I always bought mine from Alex's Cycle in Japan and even 
> they don't have it
> 2. regarding the manufacturability: "Is it just an incredibly 
> time-consuming rack, they only make a very small batch of them at a time?" 
>  I'm sure it is time consuming, and I expect it's just low priority 
> relative to other hot sellers.
> 3. Regarding the status of the 27F: "is the Campee 27F still the GROAT and 
> worth the wait?  I think it is indeed the superior front rack.  Whether 
> it's worth the wait depends on the person doing the waiting.  I think that 
> the best way to run the 27F is with rectangular panniers that are designed 
> to fit that same size and shape.  If you've already got "normal" looking 
> panniers from Ortlieb or similar, I think that's a weird looking setup.  I 
> personally have one pair of Ostrich and one pair of Carradice panniers to 
> run on my small collection of these Nitto front and rear racks.  I've got 2 
> of the 27F fronts, one of the more burly "Mt Campee" front I think they 
> call that the 20F.  I've also got two of the 700c rears, the 27R (or is it 
> R27?).  
>
> The only way to do it better IMO is a custom that copies the setup but in 
> lighter tubing or a more minimalist set of contact points designed around 
> the bike.  Those top notch rack makers are in a class by themselves.  Off 
> the shelf, the Nitto 27F is the business IMHO.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 6:44:22 AM UTC-7 andyree...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello group! 
>> I recently purchased the Nitto Mini Campee front rack for my rando bag 
>> with the idea of adding something like a TUBUS low rider or Marks Hub Area 
>> rack (MF2) for pannier- carrying come S24O time. 
>>
>> Then I remembered Nitto's most grandiose front rack, the Campee 27F and 
>> from my POV, that seems like the smartest, most elegant solution for a bike 
>> that will always carry a central bag with the option of adding panniers. 
>> The only rub is that rack is out of stock everywhere...it seems like Nitto 
>> might not even be making it anymore *(this is pure speculation but it 
>> also seems like VO dropped their front-camper rack as well)*. Any 
>> insights on this? Is it just an incredibly time-consuming rack, they only 
>> make a very small batch of them at a time? 
>>
>> The main reason why the Campee 27F is calling my name is that the 
>> low-rider racks are both modular AND angled. It doesn't seem like the MF2 
>> or Tubus offerings have that feature and I was wondering if anyone here 
>> feels a difference in ride-quality between angled and vertical low-rider 
>> panniers. 
>>
>> Would the Nitto Mini Campee and MF2 combo check all the boxes or is the 
>> Campee 27F still the GROAT and worth the wait? 
>>
>> - Andrew
>>
>>
>>

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