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[RBW] Re: FS: Silver Cranks, Brooks B67S, Nitto R10, etc

2023-11-04 Thread jaredwilson

Bump, all still available :)

On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:29:27 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:

> Hey group,
>
> Here's some stuff thats no longer needed, please respond off list if 
> interested (jared wilson 327 at gmail)
>
> *Silver Cranks - 178mm - Triple 48/36/24, rings assorted but good shape - 
> $100 + ship*
>
> *Brooks B67S - Used but good condition - $85 + ship*
>
> *Nitto R10 - New? - Bought off group, PO mocked up but didn't use, I 
> haven't touched it - $100 + ship*
>
> *VP Vice pedals - Green, used - $35 + ship*
>
> Thanks :)
>
> Jared in Central CA
>
> [image: soquelparts.jpeg]
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Rack

2023-11-04 Thread Sally Bidleman

Hi Brian,

Great info, especially re: the fenders! I have fenders on my Clem and just
ordered some for my husband's incoming Platypus.

Thanks much!

On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 4:50 PM Brian Turner  wrote:

> I share Ted’s praise of the Küat NV2.0. Mine has been one of the best bike
> investments I’ve made. It fits my 50” wheelbase medium Gus no problem,
> although it pushes it to its absolute maxium. When they say 50” is the max.
> wheelbase, they mean it.
>
> 1Up makes a very fine rack, but if your bike has fenders, or if you think
> you’ll want to carry a friend’s bike who has fenders, you may want to
> consider the Küat over the 1Up. Reason being, the Küat swing arm will still
> securely hold the front wheel as long as you get it as close to the front
> edge of the fender as possible. Unlike the 1Up, there’s no rear swing arm
> on the Küat to clamp down on (and potentially deform) your rear fender. My
> Küat has carried multiple fendered bikes thousands of miles on long road
> trips with no issues whatsoever.
>
> On Nov 4, 2023, at 7:29 PM, Sally Bidleman <3mun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Thanks, Ted! I just checked our local bike shop and, while they don't have
> 1UP, they can bring a Kuat NV2 down the grade from their warehouse in a
> couple days for us to try. Very excited to expand our biking radius, albeit
> (partially) by auto! Now, if I can only locate a Jakob Ingebrigtsen running
> cap for my son's birthday, I'll be 2 for 2 today, ha.
>
> Appreciate this group!!
>
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 2:53 PM Ted W  wrote:
>
>> Highly recommend the Kuat NV2 or 1UP as previously recommended. I have
>> the NV2 and it’s the best rack I’ve ever owned. Can easily carry any bike I
>> have. The only one that pushes the limits a bit is my Gus, I wouldn’t want
>> to try anything longer. The only reason I didn’t get the 1UP was due to
>> availability at the time.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 5:00 PM <3mun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Johnny! Subaru XTrek 2 inch hitch.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 4, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Johnny Alien 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> For like a car? If so 1UP will be my whole hearted recommendation. Best
>>> product I ever bought and works great for long wheelbases.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:
>>>
 Hi all!
 Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy
 50 cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
 Sally

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I share Ted’s praise of the Küat NV2.0. Mine has been one of the best bike investments I’ve made. It fits my 50” wheelbase medium Gus no problem, although it pushes it to its absolute maxium. When they say 50” is the max. wheelbase, they mean it.1Up makes a very fine rack, but if your bike has fenders, or if you think you’ll want to carry a friend’s bike who has fenders, you may want to consider the Küat over the 1Up. Reason being, the Küat swing arm will still securely hold the front wheel as long as you get it as close to the front edge of the fender as possible. Unlike the 1Up, there’s no rear swing arm on the Küat to clamp down on (and potentially deform) your rear fender. My Küat has carried multiple fendered bikes thousands of miles on long road trips with no issues whatsoever.On Nov 4, 2023, at 7:29 PM, Sally Bidleman <3mun...@gmail.com> wrote:Thanks, Ted! I just checked our local bike shop and, while they don't have 1UP, they can bring a Kuat NV2 down the grade from their warehouse in a couple days for us to try. Very excited to expand our biking radius, albeit (partially) by auto! Now, if I can only locate a Jakob Ingebrigtsen running cap for my son's birthday, I'll be 2 for 2 today, ha.Appreciate this group!!On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 2:53 PM Ted W wrote:Highly recommend the Kuat NV2 or 1UP as previously recommended. I have the NV2 and it’s the best rack I’ve ever owned. Can easily carry any bike I have. The only one that pushes the limits a bit is my Gus, I wouldn’t want to try anything longer. The only reason I didn’t get the 1UP was due to availability at the time.On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 5:00 PM <3mun...@gmail.com> wrote:Thanks Johnny! Subaru XTrek 2 inch hitch.Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 4, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Johnny Alien wrote:For like a car? If so 1UP will be my whole hearted recommendation. Best product I ever bought and works great for long wheelbases.On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:Hi all!Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50 cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!Sally

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Re: [RBW] Re: Differences between Sam Hillborne and A Homer Hilsen

2023-11-04 Thread Brian Turner

Correct. I’ve seen the “w” caps on Toyo and Waterford Rivs alike.On Nov 4, 2023, at 5:45 PM, Greg J wrote:That seat stay cap was used across various models - I don't know if it is a Riv-sourced custom piece - but it doesn't have anything to do with Waterford (nor is it intended to be a "W" - just a decoration.On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:51:23 PM UTC-7 Hetchins52 wrote:Here’s mine. A Toyo by its serial number and Frank’s pics. You can see one of the third water bottle mounts at the top in the photo.Year? I don’t know. I bought the frameset third-hand, six years ago, and thought it might be 2009 using some of the info on CycloFiend.DavidOn Friday, September 2, 2022 at 2:47:51 PM UTC-7 frank_a wrote:The serial number will tell you if it’s a Toyo or Waterford built frame.Toyo serial numbers are large and run across the bb shell while the Waterford numbers are smaller and are oriented around the shell, parallel to the outer edge. One photo is a Saluki and the other photo is a Waterford built Rosco.The Toyo Atlantis’ read: AT0001 and so on, Homer: AH0001SA0026 - the 26th Saluki- FrankOn Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:26:35 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:I looked on Cyclofiend and where they were visible, the Atlantises all appeared to have the W. It may not be related to Waterford after all.LaingOn Friday, September 2, 2022 at 10:48:29 AM UTC-4 Danny wrote:The early Atlantis brochures show the W on the seat stay cap with Toyo being the only listed builder in the brochures. My Riv knowledge is not very deep, so perhaps Waterford was building the Atlantis as well at that time? or Riv was buying the seat stay caps from them?Atlantis 2001 brochureAtlantis 2002 brochure-DannyOn Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 7:41 AM Bill Schairer wrote:In general, is one not able to tell from the serial number?Bill SSan DiegoOn Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 11:50:12 AM UTC-7 RichS wrote:That is a first class detail. Don’t believe it was on my formerly owned 2014 Waterford Atlantis so perhaps the W was featured on certain models? I am fond of concave seat stay caps though. Happy that they’re on my Sam.Best,Rich in ATLOn Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 1:06 PM, J J wrote:Laing, thanks for the interesting bit about Waterford-built frames. This is the first I hear. I never noticed the W as a deliberate W (as opposed to being strictly an embellishment) on my Waterford Hunqapillar, so it was cool to see it for what it is. I had to check the other Rivs in the stable, all Toyo built, and of course none has the W.Thanks again!On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 9:47:06 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:Don't Waterford frames have a distinctive seat stay end cap with a 'W" in the recess - my Bombadil does. This is a better picture from the Waterford site, but the same as my Bombadil:LaingOn Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:05:54 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:THAT'S it. I knew there was a difference between the two but couldn't remember the detail change. But I think yours is backwards, my recollection is Toyo had two sets of bottle bosses and the later Waterford got the third set. On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:01:05 AM UTC-7 Hetchins52 wrote:Not sure that it is totally definitive but I expect the Toyo AHH to have three water bottle boss pairs and the Waterford to have two pairs (none under the down tube).David LipskyOn Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 7:11:42 PM UTC-7 James wrote:I have an older AHH. Anyone know how I can tell if it's Toyo or Waterford made?On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:52:35 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:I had an older MUSA AHH 61 (2006-ish?) and a Taiwan Sam 62 (2015-ish) with 2TT and for a brief spell I also had a 2TT 58. All of them were 700C. I should also say that they are all gone at this point, nothing wrong with them except my own unnecessary searching for the next shiny object.Both are amazing frames and can be set up very similarly - I think your tires, racks and handlebars would probably determine the feel and ride more than the frame geo, tubing or anything else.Some details on the way mine were set up: both had front and rear racks, sidepull brakes and short stems:AHH 700x38 + dropbarsSH 62 700x44 + dropbarsSH 58 700x42 + AlbatrossIt has been said that the Sam is burlier or that the tubing on the Homer is slightly lighter and the lugs are more elegant. To me, they were both equally capable, perhaps the 2TT Sam felt a tad stiffer particularly when loaded, but it certainly didn't feel slower. Also, at no point did I feel like my AHH couldn't carry as much as the Sam. Are you trying to decide which one you'd buy? If so, I would choose based on availability, color, badge, name, which one do you find more beautiful? Oh and sizing: which one fits you better? If you can find a frame where you fall in the middle of the suggested PBH range for either the Sam or the AHH I would choose that.Not sure if this helps, but I think Grant said it best when he said it was hard to tell one from the other when you were riding

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Rack

2023-11-04 Thread Sally Bidleman

Thanks, Ted! I just checked our local bike shop and, while they don't have
1UP, they can bring a Kuat NV2 down the grade from their warehouse in a
couple days for us to try. Very excited to expand our biking radius, albeit
(partially) by auto! Now, if I can only locate a Jakob Ingebrigtsen running
cap for my son's birthday, I'll be 2 for 2 today, ha.

Appreciate this group!!

On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 2:53 PM Ted W  wrote:

> Highly recommend the Kuat NV2 or 1UP as previously recommended. I have the
> NV2 and it’s the best rack I’ve ever owned. Can easily carry any bike I
> have. The only one that pushes the limits a bit is my Gus, I wouldn’t want
> to try anything longer. The only reason I didn’t get the 1UP was due to
> availability at the time.
>
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 5:00 PM <3mun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Johnny! Subaru XTrek 2 inch hitch.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 4, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Johnny Alien 
>> wrote:
>>
>> For like a car? If so 1UP will be my whole hearted recommendation. Best
>> product I ever bought and works great for long wheelbases.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all!
>>> Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50
>>> cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
>>> Sally
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Rack

2023-11-04 Thread Ted W

Highly recommend the Kuat NV2 or 1UP as previously recommended. I have the
NV2 and it’s the best rack I’ve ever owned. Can easily carry any bike I
have. The only one that pushes the limits a bit is my Gus, I wouldn’t want
to try anything longer. The only reason I didn’t get the 1UP was due to
availability at the time.

On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 5:00 PM <3mun...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Johnny! Subaru XTrek 2 inch hitch.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 4, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Johnny Alien 
> wrote:
>
> For like a car? If so 1UP will be my whole hearted recommendation. Best
> product I ever bought and works great for long wheelbases.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:
>
>> Hi all!
>> Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50
>> cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
>> Sally
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Differences between Sam Hillborne and A Homer Hilsen

2023-11-04 Thread Greg J

That seat stay cap was used across various models - I don't know if it is a 
Riv-sourced custom piece - but it doesn't have anything to do with 
Waterford (nor is it intended to be a "W" - just a decoration.

On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:51:23 PM UTC-7 Hetchins52 wrote:

> Here’s mine. A Toyo by its serial number and Frank’s pics. You can see one 
> of the third water bottle mounts at the top in the photo.
> Year? I don’t know. I bought the frameset third-hand, six years ago, and 
> thought it might be 2009 using some of the info on CycloFiend.
>
> David
> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 2:47:51 PM UTC-7 frank_a wrote:
>
>> [image: 7052F7D8-A7C3-40E9-BF7D-7549C10B03C0.jpeg][image: 
>> C25083FA-4E17-4971-90D1-18B4084AC777.jpeg]
>> The serial number will tell you if it’s a Toyo or Waterford built frame.
>> Toyo serial numbers are large and run across the bb shell while the 
>> Waterford numbers are smaller and are oriented around the shell, parallel 
>> to the outer edge. One photo is a Saluki and the other photo is a Waterford 
>> built Rosco.
>> The Toyo Atlantis’ read: AT0001 and so on, Homer: AH0001
>> SA0026 - the 26th Saluki
>> - Frank
>>
>> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:26:35 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> I looked on Cyclofiend and where they were visible, the Atlantises all 
>>> appeared to have the W. It may not be related to Waterford after all.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 10:48:29 AM UTC-4 Danny wrote:
>>>
 The early Atlantis brochures show the W on the seat stay cap with Toyo 
 being the only listed builder in the brochures. My Riv knowledge is not 
 very deep, so perhaps Waterford was building the Atlantis as well at that 
 time? or Riv was buying the seat stay caps from them?

 Atlantis 2001 brochure 
 
 Atlantis 2002 brochure 
 

 [image: Screen Shot 2022-09-02 at 9.15.04 AM Medium.jpeg]
 [image: Screen Shot 2022-09-02 at 9.36.37 AM Medium.jpeg]

 -Danny







 On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 7:41 AM Bill Schairer  wrote:

> In general, is one not able to tell from the serial number?
>
> Bill S
> San Diego
>
> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 11:50:12 AM UTC-7 RichS wrote:
>
>> That is a first class detail. Don’t believe it was on my formerly 
>> owned 2014 Waterford Atlantis so perhaps the W was featured on certain 
>> models? I am fond of concave seat stay caps though. Happy that they’re 
>> on 
>> my Sam.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 1:06 PM, J J  wrote:
>>
>>> Laing, thanks for the interesting bit about Waterford-built frames. 
>>> This is the first I hear. I never noticed the W as a deliberate W (as 
>>> opposed to being strictly an embellishment) on my Waterford 
>>> Hunqapillar, so 
>>> it was cool to see it for what it is. I had to check the other Rivs in 
>>> the 
>>> stable, all Toyo built, and of course none has the W.
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>>
>>> [image: Hunq Waterford seat stay end.jpeg]
>>> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 9:47:06 AM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>>
 Don't Waterford frames have a distinctive seat stay end cap with a 
 'W" in the recess - my Bombadil does. This is a better picture from 
 the 
 Waterford site, but the same as my Bombadil:

 [image: 
 6881680380_566caa3985_z-nwiouwjw51r3qwj11ieoc8axc7o69w290ux5x1it4w.jpg]

 Laing



 On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 3:05:54 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard 
 wrote:

> THAT'S it. I knew there was a difference between the two but 
> couldn't remember the detail change. But I think yours is backwards, 
> my 
> recollection is Toyo had two sets of bottle bosses and the later 
> Waterford 
> got the third set. 
>
> On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:01:05 AM UTC-7 Hetchins52 
> wrote:
>
>> Not sure that it is totally definitive but I expect the Toyo AHH 
>> to have three water bottle boss pairs and the Waterford to have two 
>> pairs 
>> (none under the down tube).
>>
>> David Lipsky
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 7:11:42 PM UTC-7 James wrote:
>>
>>> I have an older AHH.  Anyone know how I can tell if it's Toyo or 
>>> Waterford made?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 5:52:35 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:
>>>
 I had an older MUSA AHH 61 (2006-ish?) and a Taiwan Sam 62 
 (2015-ish) with 2TT and for a brief spell I also had a 2TT 58. All 
 of them

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Rack

2023-11-04 Thread 3munro5

Thanks Johnny! Subaru XTrek 2 inch hitch.Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 4, 2023, at 1:44 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:For like a car? If so 1UP will be my whole hearted recommendation. Best product I ever bought and works great for long wheelbases.On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:Hi all!Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50 cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!Sally



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[RBW] Re: Bike Rack

2023-11-04 Thread Johnny Alien

For like a car? If so 1UP will be my whole hearted recommendation. Best 
product I ever bought and works great for long wheelbases.

On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:

> Hi all!
> Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50 
> cm for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
> Sally
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[RBW] Bike Rack

2023-11-04 Thread SallyG

Hi all!
Any bike rack you'd recommend for Clem Smith L 45 cm and future Platy 50 cm 
for husband? Kuat or? Model? Thanks for any help!
Sally

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Silver Triple & Wavie Bar

2023-11-04 Thread James

Just posted it

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Silver Triple & Wavie Bar

2023-11-04 Thread vernon brooks

Hey James might be interested in the Rene Herse crank are you able to share
a link?

On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 11:04 AM James  wrote:

> Interested in a Nitto Wavie bar or something similar and a silver triple
> crank, 173 or longer length.  I have a RH triple for sale on another post
> and am open to trades.
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[RBW] WTB: Silver Triple & Wavie Bar

2023-11-04 Thread James

Interested in a Nitto Wavie bar or something similar and a silver triple 
crank, 173 or longer length.  I have a RH triple for sale on another post 
and am open to trades.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Roadini frame set 47cm (650b) GraySilver

2023-11-04 Thread Ashwath Akirekadu

Price drop: now $750

Pickup is from Ashburn, VA



On Sunday, 22 October 2023 at 19:13:56 UTC-4 Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:

> This is a moving sale.
>
> Soon after I assembled this bike 2020, the family life 100% took over.  I 
> might have gone on 5-6 rides, totaling less than 100 miles.
>
> What is included: frame, fork, headset and bottom bracket.
> Price: $800
>
> I cannot ship.  Bay Area pick up only (Sunnyvale) on dates Oct 28, 29, 30 
> or 31st.  
>
> After that the frame will move with rest of my stuff to Northern Virginia. 
>  If it is not sold in Bay Area, it will be available for pick up in NVa 
> November 3rd week onwards.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

2023-11-04 Thread RichS

Patrick,

+1 on your church going cycling attire. The description is vivid enough so 
I can clearly see it. Your warm weather sartorial choices are impressive as 
well.
I need to up my game and enhance my decade old Rivendell knickers. Thanks 
for the inspiration:-)

Best,
Rich in ATL 
 

On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:28:12 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I broke out my oh, so elegant! grey flannel cycling knickers* last Sunday 
> for the ride to church, matched with Rick's (Reisemberg) medium-dark grey 
> knee socks and a charcoal grey merino mock turtleneck pullover under a navy 
> Wabi Woolen LS jersey cunningly made into a light cycling jacket with the 
> (very professional) addition of a full-length zipper. Shoes should have 
> been Dromartis, but I use plain black canvas Specialized SPD shoes because 
> they have a wide toe box and a flat bottom, better for standing during 2+ 
> hour liturgies. Topped off with ironically-retro, deliberately jarring 
> green-and-red Legnano cycling cap; not quite cold enough for ear flaps. 
>
> Only 1 person did a double take at the knickers.
>
> Must take a fashion shot.
>
> But temps have risen almost 20* this week, so it looks like I'll be back 
> to the light nylon REI roll-up-legs-and-snap-in-place pants and cotton 
> collared shirt this Sunday.
>
> Much more casually, this afternoon, temp about 72* with moderate wind, 
> wore a blue and white wool ss jersey with Italian lycra arm warmers over 
> black Rapha Randonee shorts. Black ankle socks with catchy "Route 66" 
> graphic and late 1980s/1990s Shimano 3-strap SPD shoes and custom cycling 
> cap from Little Packet, no longer in business.
>
> * Very tastefully converted from a very nice pair of Nordstrom wool dress 
> flannels with nylon wind panels on inside front and replaceable 
> matched-color wear panel on seat and crotch.
>
> I have to say: I've spent considerable bucks on very many supposedly 
> purpose-designed riding pants, knickers and long pants, and I have never 
> had a pair of cycling pants that fit as well and are so well adapted to 
> pedaling as converted dress pants, with the high waist and roomy -- not 
> baggy; not 1950s -- cut. They come up high enough in back that you don't 
> have that continual exposed skin anxiety, and they just feel much more 
> comfortable. So many knickers and pants designed for cycling, so they say, 
> are simply cut too low in the back and just feel uncomfortable, and I'm 
> very trim. I've owned I think 4 pairs of dress-pant conversion cycling 
> knickers and I wish I'd not sold 2 of the other 3 pairs. 
>
> Patrick "not quite as serious as you might think" Moore
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 4:17 PM DavidP  wrote:
>
>> Another knickers fan for spring/fall riding. My outfit today was perfect 
>> for the cool, crisp temps and reasonably coordinated (merino sweater, Zoic 
>> Reign knickers, Vans checkerboard socks).
>>
>> [image: GR001-4893_maple-ridge-1800.jpg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Style on the bike

2023-11-04 Thread Patrick Moore

Fashion (well, *civilian* fashion) left me behind long ago; I forget that
current men's dress pants are cut very tight and low. No, my pants are all
dad pants from 20+ years ago; I guess that makes them grandad pants.



On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 11:17 PM Keith Paugh  wrote:

> ... I wouldn’t think they’d rise high enough in back as you describe.
>
> k.
>
> On Nov 3, 2023, at 8:28 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> ... I have never had a pair of cycling pants that fit as well and are so
> well adapted to pedaling as converted dress pants, with the high waist and
> roomy -- not baggy; not 1950s -- cut. They come up high enough in back
>
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