[RBW] San Francisco Randonneurs 200k ride report

[Toshi Takeuchi]

The Russian River 200k comes in at a little over 200k with 126 miles.  I
consider myself a lazy randonneur.  I prefer to train as little as
possible, while also trying to minimize the suffering on the event day as
much as possible.

I'm not unfit because I commute to work on my bike (Cheviot). During the
school year, I drop my daughter off at school, park the car nearby and ride
my bike to work and back to the car after work.  It's about 5 miles and
~600 ft of elevation gain.  My base is therefore 40-50 miles a week (4-5
commute days) and two weekends I did a 15 mile loop from my house.  It's
enough training to finish the 126-miler, but I wanted to ride without
suffering unduly.

I drew on my experience:

1. I know what my body likes to eat on long rides.
My go to recipe: rice bars-I think of it as an elevated spam musubi
https://www.skratchlabs.com/blogs/recipes/dr-lims-bacon-and-egg-rice-cakes

I put in chicken apple sausage instead of bacon and skip the maple
sugar/brown syrup.  I wrap the rice/eggs/sausage in seaweed like a sushi
roll and plop it in a sandwich baggie.  I didn't have to stop for anything
yesterday except some water and a quick bathroom break.

2. I know that with my base of fitness, I need to stay within a very narrow
range of effort.  If I put in too much effort, then my body won't be able
to recover.

--This means that I need to go slow out of the gate and not get caught up
in the excitement of the start, and I have to take it easy on the hills and
spin in my low gears.  If I follow this strategy, then I can maintain
energy until the end without struggling to the finish line.

(Conversely, a countless number of times, have I gone too hard at the start
and limped along to the end!)

It was a chilly start and forecast for 38 degrees, which on a steep
downhill is practically ski weather, so I put on my ski gloves on top of my
fingerless gloves to start the day off.

As expected, out of the gate it was fast.  I kept it slow.  I was riding
alone that day because my friend was just returning from Germany and was
jet lagged, so I went at my own pace.

Soon, I was the last one of the 60 or so riders and the only people I saw
were the late starters who were passing me.

It was cold as expected, and it was also foggy with condensation on my
glasses, so visibility was poor for a while, but gradually the sun came out
and it was a beautiful day.  I met up with another Riv that day--a rider
with a beautiful A Homer Hilsen (I'm sorry I missed his name).  He caught a
nice picture as the sun started to come out and we had a beautiful view of
the rolling hills.

I made my way through the grazing cows and worked through the Russian River
valley over to the coast where it was a really beautiful day.  We headed
back down the coast and then back to the start at San Rafael.

--In terms of time allowed for the ride, the minimum pace is roughly 10
miles per hour, including stops, giving about 12.6 hours to finish.

I exceeded my target goal of 10-11 hours and came in under 10 hours. I only
had 18 minutes of time stopped (a record low for me), including a couple of
construction 1-lane delays, so that helped me maintain a good time.

For the 300k, I'm going to add in some 28 mile training loops. I figure if
I go hard on the 28-milers, then it will be enough to finish modestly well
on the 300k.

Until next time,
Toshi in Oakland

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Re: [RBW] FS Items Brakes, Seatposts, Saddles, Derailleurs

[Mike Godwin]

Hi Folks
Thank you for the great response. The remaining items are: 

Campy GS crank, 170 length, 144 BCD, w/ 45 t ring. I'll throw in a pant 
guard made from a 50 t ring if ya want it.  Threads in good condition. $40 

Pacenti Forza Classico rims, silver, asymmetric/symmetric pair, 32 hole, 
NIB $220 

Brooks Swallow, black, steel rails, like new condition.  $120

Cannondale faux carbon al seatpost. 27.2, uncut.  $20

Promax ISO seatpost. 26.4, uncut.  $20

Tiagra short cage RD, RD-4500, $15 

Avid Shorty cantis 1 bike’s worth. Koolstop/Tektro pads. Missing one barrel 
for QR end, no straddle cables. $20
Campagnolo Silca Pump metal head  $25
If anyone is interested in a 1980 Bianchi Specialisima, 62 cm, Tange 
Prestige replacement chrome fork, ask for photos. Paint crappy, suffered a 
front end bump, some crinkled paint but otherwise looks good. Free, you pay 
shipping. Would make a cool patinaed frame much like the Ramboulliet 
someone worked over.  
Mike SLO CA

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 1:48:19 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Short *housing* lengths ...
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 2:46 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> ...  IME, good quality single pivots with decent levers,* short cable 
>> lengths*, and salmon pads stop very well indeed.]
>>
>
>> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 12:31 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks 
>>>
>>> Some bits from parting out the Monstercross, other items that just seem 
>>> to pile up. Some of the parts you may recognize, boomerang!  PDF 
>>> compilation of parts photos.  Ask for the source photos if needed.  Combine 
>>> parts to economize on shipping. If you feel the asking price is too high, 
>>> please make an offer.  Price includes shipping. 
>>>
>>>  Campy GS crank, 170 length, 144 BCD, w/ 45 t ring. Threads in good 
>>> condition. $40 
>>>
>>> Pacenti Forza Classico rims, silver, asymmetric/symmetric pair, 32 hole, 
>>> NIB $220 
>>>
>>> Brooks Swallow, black, steel rails, like new condition.  $120 
>>>
>>> B17s, brown with copper rivets. $65 each, or $100 for both. 
>>>
>>> Suntour Superbe Pro 170 crank, 130 BCD, 53-39 rings. $40 
>>>
>>> Cannondale faux carbon al seatpost. 27.2, uncut.  $20 
>>>
>>> Promax ISO seatpost. 26.4, uncut.  $20 
>>>
>>> SR Custom seatpost, 27.2 uncut.  $15 
>>>
>>> Nitto Crystal Fellow seatpost. 27.2, uncut. $40 
>>>
>>> Suntour XC Pro FD, 28.6. Chrome good condition. $25 
>>>
>>> Shimano 105 long cage RD, RD-5501. $25 
>>>
>>> Also have a short cage Tiagra. $15 
>>>
>>> Paul Components skewers, black with orange, one bike’s worth 100/135. $90
>>>  
>>>
>>> Dia Compe Royal Gran Compe brakes 47-57 mm reach, no pads. Recessed, all 
>>> hardware.  $40  
>>>
>>> Paul Components brakes, 1 bike’s worth. Touring Canti and Neo Retro, 
>>> silver, dual compound Koolstop pads. straddle cables, red hangers.  $165
>>>  
>>>
>>> Dia Compe 750 Centerpull brakes, NIB, 62-78 mm reach, no pads. Nutted, 
>>> all hardware.  $45 
>>>
>>> Avid Shorty cantis 1 bike’s worth. Koolstop/Tektro pads. Missing one 
>>> barrel for QR end, no straddle cables. $20 
>>>
>>> Shimano 1 speed FW 3/32 pitch 18 t, SF-MX30  $15 
>>>
>>> Campagnolo Silca Pump metal head  $25 
>>>
>>> Sanyo chainstay generator. NIB, includes wires, brackets, front/rear 
>>> lights, manual  $25 
>>>
>>> Ephemera, instruction/sales page for Christrophe toe clips. Raleigh tire 
>>> pressure gauge, bag of zinc coated steel cables, good for making flexible 
>>> straddle cables. 
>>>
>>> Mike SLO CA
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[RBW] WTB: Blue Paul Racers and a Large Silver or Gray Trunk Sack

[Nathan Mattia]

Hello Riv Riders!

Like so many specialized parts these days, I find myself in need of a 
couple that are supposedly still made, but that I can’t find through the 
normal channels.  

1.  My 2017-Era Orange Caliper-Sam is trimmed out in blue whenever I can. 
 Since I need a brake upgrade, I thought I would go big and go for the Blue 
Paul Racers.  The home-office is out of them right now.  Anybody out there 
got a pair for sale?

2.  Still looking for a Large Gray or Silver Trunk Sack for my Miyata 1000.

LET ME KNOW!!
-Nathan Mattia

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Re: [RBW] Re: trying to find an obscure former riv product

[Patrick Moore]

Well, "to err is human." My sole aim, goal, purpose, and motivation in life
is to have the bottoms of the hooks perfectly parallel to the ground. I
may* have failed and, for that, I am profoundly embarrassed.

*The bar angle may be distorted by my always semi-incompetent photography.
Or perhaps not, and perhaps just a wee bit of downward angle is what I
really like. Who knows what one really likes?

At any rate, that bar is supremely comfortable, and I've been thinking that
hooks on the very same bar on the geometrically cloned 2020 Matthews needs
to be rotated down a wee bit.

Patrick Moore, surprised and at once somewhat flattered and alarmed that
Bill notices these things, in ABQ, mud 'n' snow NM.

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 3:25 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> I approve of this photo...because the hooks are correctly parallel to the
> top tube, rather than the misguided standard of having them parallel to the
> ground.  The hooks are to be parallel to the ground ONLY incidentally, when
> the top tube is level.  Aesthetic truth and correctness demands this.
> APPROVE.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 11:15:13 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I've made left-hand hoods/grips for single-caliper, right-hand-only-lever
>> fixed gears simply be removing the lever proper from the brake lever body.
>> I've even filed/Dremeled down the lever, proper attachment projection but
>> often I've just removed the lever, proper, and left the attachment point.
>> Since used caliper brake levers are easy to find and cheap to buy, this
>> might be a solution.
>>
>> You can see the leftside leverless lever in this bad photo from 2015 with
>> matching Banzer bag and Keos.
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 8:42 AM Bill Schairer  wrote:
>>
>>> I have these if you are interested.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1907.JPG]
>>>
>>> Bill S
>>> San Diego
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 10:04:48 AM UTC-8 Davey Two Shoes wrote:
>>>
 Yes those on somas site! THanks!!!

 On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 11:58:08 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

>
> https://aroundthecycle.com/products/new-cane-creek-ergo-tandem-stoker-dummy-lever-black-sold-as-a-pair
>
> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 11:55:20 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Like in these illustrations?
>>
>> https://web.stanford.edu/~dru/moustache.html
>>
>> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 11:54:06 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> If I remember correctly those aren't correct. Are you talking about
>>> the road brake levers but without the levers?
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 11:32:17 AM UTC-5 mrg...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 These?


 https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/dia-compe-dc138-hand-rest-2746#attr=4939

 On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 10:20:13 AM UTC-6 Davey Two Shoes
 wrote:

> Does anyone remember those "false" hoods Riv used to sell? I think
> it was Riv at least. Anyway I'm looking for a similar solution but 
> cant
> find anything. Solutions??
>
> THanks!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: trying to find an obscure former riv product

[Bill Lindsay]

I approve of this photo...because the hooks are correctly parallel to the 
top tube, rather than the misguided standard of having them parallel to the 
ground.  The hooks are to be parallel to the ground ONLY incidentally, when 
the top tube is level.  Aesthetic truth and correctness demands this. 
 APPROVE.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 11:15:13 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I've made left-hand hoods/grips for single-caliper, right-hand-only-lever 
> fixed gears simply be removing the lever proper from the brake lever body. 
> I've even filed/Dremeled down the lever, proper attachment projection but 
> often I've just removed the lever, proper, and left the attachment point. 
> Since used caliper brake levers are easy to find and cheap to buy, this 
> might be a solution.
>
> You can see the leftside leverless lever in this bad photo from 2015 with 
> matching Banzer bag and Keos.
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 8:42 AM Bill Schairer  wrote:
>
>> I have these if you are interested.
>>
>> [image: IMG_1907.JPG]
>>
>> Bill S
>> San Diego
>>
>> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 10:04:48 AM UTC-8 Davey Two Shoes wrote:
>>
>>> Yes those on somas site! THanks!!!
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 11:58:08 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>

 https://aroundthecycle.com/products/new-cane-creek-ergo-tandem-stoker-dummy-lever-black-sold-as-a-pair

 On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 11:55:20 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Like in these illustrations?
>
> https://web.stanford.edu/~dru/moustache.html
>
> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 11:54:06 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> If I remember correctly those aren't correct. Are you talking about 
>> the road brake levers but without the levers?
>>
>> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 11:32:17 AM UTC-5 mrg...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> These?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/dia-compe-dc138-hand-rest-2746#attr=4939
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 9, 2024 at 10:20:13 AM UTC-6 Davey Two Shoes 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone remember those "false" hoods Riv used to sell? I think 
 it was Riv at least. Anyway I'm looking for a similar solution but 
 cant 
 find anything. Solutions??

 THanks!

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Re: [RBW] FS Items Brakes, Seatposts, Saddles, Derailleurs

[Patrick Moore]

Short *housing* lengths ...

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 2:46 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> ...  IME, good quality single pivots with decent levers,* short cable
> lengths*, and salmon pads stop very well indeed.]
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 12:31 AM Mike Godwin 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks
>>
>> Some bits from parting out the Monstercross, other items that just seem
>> to pile up. Some of the parts you may recognize, boomerang!  PDF
>> compilation of parts photos.  Ask for the source photos if needed.  Combine
>> parts to economize on shipping. If you feel the asking price is too high,
>> please make an offer.  Price includes shipping.
>>
>>  Campy GS crank, 170 length, 144 BCD, w/ 45 t ring. Threads in good
>> condition. $40
>>
>> Pacenti Forza Classico rims, silver, asymmetric/symmetric pair, 32 hole,
>> NIB $220
>>
>> Brooks Swallow, black, steel rails, like new condition.  $120
>>
>> B17s, brown with copper rivets. $65 each, or $100 for both.
>>
>> Suntour Superbe Pro 170 crank, 130 BCD, 53-39 rings. $40
>>
>> Cannondale faux carbon al seatpost. 27.2, uncut.  $20
>>
>> Promax ISO seatpost. 26.4, uncut.  $20
>>
>> SR Custom seatpost, 27.2 uncut.  $15
>>
>> Nitto Crystal Fellow seatpost. 27.2, uncut. $40
>>
>> Suntour XC Pro FD, 28.6. Chrome good condition. $25
>>
>> Shimano 105 long cage RD, RD-5501. $25
>>
>> Also have a short cage Tiagra. $15
>>
>> Paul Components skewers, black with orange, one bike’s worth 100/135. $90
>>
>>
>> Dia Compe Royal Gran Compe brakes 47-57 mm reach, no pads. Recessed, all
>> hardware.  $40
>>
>> Paul Components brakes, 1 bike’s worth. Touring Canti and Neo Retro,
>> silver, dual compound Koolstop pads. straddle cables, red hangers.  $165
>>
>> Dia Compe 750 Centerpull brakes, NIB, 62-78 mm reach, no pads. Nutted,
>> all hardware.  $45
>>
>> Avid Shorty cantis 1 bike’s worth. Koolstop/Tektro pads. Missing one
>> barrel for QR end, no straddle cables. $20
>>
>> Shimano 1 speed FW 3/32 pitch 18 t, SF-MX30  $15
>>
>> Campagnolo Silca Pump metal head  $25
>>
>> Sanyo chainstay generator. NIB, includes wires, brackets, front/rear
>> lights, manual  $25
>>
>> Ephemera, instruction/sales page for Christrophe toe clips. Raleigh tire
>> pressure gauge, bag of zinc coated steel cables, good for making flexible
>> straddle cables.
>>
>> Mike SLO CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS Items Brakes, Seatposts, Saddles, Derailleurs

[Patrick Moore]

Mike: I'll take the Shimano 15 t fw if still available. To confirm: 3/32"
and not 1/8"?

Paypal to this address?

[Among the other things, some good prices for things I fortunately don't
need. I'd love a Superb Pro crankset, only I've got too many TA 50.4s and
an extra DA GS 200 or 300; still tempted but not now. Ditto for SP fd.
Excellent price for a pair of Paul cantis, too. The prices for the Campy
head and the excellent RG Compe calipers also very good -- IME, good
quality single pivots with decent levers, short cable lengths, and salmon
pads stop very well indeed.]

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 12:31 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:

> Hi Folks
>
> Some bits from parting out the Monstercross, other items that just seem to
> pile up. Some of the parts you may recognize, boomerang!  PDF compilation
> of parts photos.  Ask for the source photos if needed.  Combine parts to
> economize on shipping. If you feel the asking price is too high, please
> make an offer.  Price includes shipping.
>
>  Campy GS crank, 170 length, 144 BCD, w/ 45 t ring. Threads in good
> condition. $40
>
> Pacenti Forza Classico rims, silver, asymmetric/symmetric pair, 32 hole,
> NIB $220
>
> Brooks Swallow, black, steel rails, like new condition.  $120
>
> B17s, brown with copper rivets. $65 each, or $100 for both.
>
> Suntour Superbe Pro 170 crank, 130 BCD, 53-39 rings. $40
>
> Cannondale faux carbon al seatpost. 27.2, uncut.  $20
>
> Promax ISO seatpost. 26.4, uncut.  $20
>
> SR Custom seatpost, 27.2 uncut.  $15
>
> Nitto Crystal Fellow seatpost. 27.2, uncut. $40
>
> Suntour XC Pro FD, 28.6. Chrome good condition. $25
>
> Shimano 105 long cage RD, RD-5501. $25
>
> Also have a short cage Tiagra. $15
>
> Paul Components skewers, black with orange, one bike’s worth 100/135. $90
>
> Dia Compe Royal Gran Compe brakes 47-57 mm reach, no pads. Recessed, all
> hardware.  $40
>
> Paul Components brakes, 1 bike’s worth. Touring Canti and Neo Retro,
> silver, dual compound Koolstop pads. straddle cables, red hangers.  $165
>
> Dia Compe 750 Centerpull brakes, NIB, 62-78 mm reach, no pads. Nutted, all
> hardware.  $45
>
> Avid Shorty cantis 1 bike’s worth. Koolstop/Tektro pads. Missing one
> barrel for QR end, no straddle cables. $20
>
> Shimano 1 speed FW 3/32 pitch 18 t, SF-MX30  $15
>
> Campagnolo Silca Pump metal head  $25
>
> Sanyo chainstay generator. NIB, includes wires, brackets, front/rear
> lights, manual  $25
>
> Ephemera, instruction/sales page for Christrophe toe clips. Raleigh tire
> pressure gauge, bag of zinc coated steel cables, good for making flexible
> straddle cables.
>
> Mike SLO CA
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: [BOB] 1) Best source for SP PD 8 hubs. (2) WTB/WTT/WTG Fleecer Ridge tires

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, but the point of the exercise is to match hubs between the 2
wheelsets exactly so that the calipers and rotors require little
adjustment. When I tried an adaptor on an earlier second wheelset I had to
mess around a great deal with shims, which was a pain.

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 2:24 PM R. Alexis  wrote:

> Could get a Centerlock to 6 bolt adapter.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 8:20:41 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Many thanks, Chris but I'm looking for a 6-bolt model.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:13 PM Chris Cullum 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a black QR 32h SP 8 dynohub. Light use, no issues. It's centre
>>> lock however. Let me know if you are interested.
>>>
>>> Chris Cullum
>>> Vancouver, BC
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024, 13:00 Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
>> 1. What's the best source for SP PD 8 hubs? Alas, PJW does not sell them,
 AFAICT.

 1.bis) Note: I want the nicest SP 26"/28" 32-hole, QR-axle, BLACK,
 6-bolt rotor SP hub and from their pretty but ill-constructed website it's
 hard to tell if this is the PD 8 or if there is some fugitive better
 version lurking about somewhere on another page. So, question 1(bis): is
 the PD 8 their best 6-bolt disc hub for 700C wheels?

 For that matter, does anyone have a BLACK, 32-hole, 6-bolt QR axle SP
 dynohub for sale or trade?

 2. Does anyone have some good-condition Fleecer Ridge tires for sale or
 trade? If trade, whatcha lookin' for?

 Patrick Moore, who wishes he'd kept his small stash of (360 grams!! For
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[RBW] Re: Northern Hemisphere Winter 2023-2024 Ride Photos

[Patrick Moore]

I should have added that each cm of width (with corresponding drop in
pressure) adds very greatly to float over sand. 50s are the narrowest that
I care to ride in sand, at 18 to 20 all round pressure; 60s are noticeably
better at 17 or 18 all round; and the WTB Rangers at a non-full-expansion
72 mm at 13 psi were sit and push a 65" gear thru 3" sand that would have
50s skating and require deep downshifting, and require standing on the
60s.. I could grunt the Rangers thru 4" sand standing in a 65" single gear.

So, 60 vs 50 gives up a lot of float.

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 2:13 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> ... Aside, related, question: what would *you* choose for mostly sandy
> off road riding: 60 mm* Fleecer Ridges sans fender protection to keep the
> sand and, occasionally, the mud and water off you and your bike or, 50 mm*
> Oracle Ridges that you can probably use safely under the Kelpie fenders?
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[RBW] Re: [BOB] 1) Best source for SP PD 8 hubs. (2) WTB/WTT/WTG Fleecer Ridge tires

[R. Alexis]

Could get a Centerlock to 6 bolt adapter. 

Thanks,

Reginald Alexis

On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 8:20:41 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Many thanks, Chris but I'm looking for a 6-bolt model.
>
> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 10:13 PM Chris Cullum  wrote:
>
>> I have a black QR 32h SP 8 dynohub. Light use, no issues. It's centre 
>> lock however. Let me know if you are interested.
>>
>> Chris Cullum
>> Vancouver, BC
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024, 13:00 Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
> 1. What's the best source for SP PD 8 hubs? Alas, PJW does not sell them, 
>>> AFAICT.
>>>
>>> 1.bis) Note: I want the nicest SP 26"/28" 32-hole, QR-axle, BLACK, 
>>> 6-bolt rotor SP hub and from their pretty but ill-constructed website it's 
>>> hard to tell if this is the PD 8 or if there is some fugitive better 
>>> version lurking about somewhere on another page. So, question 1(bis): is 
>>> the PD 8 their best 6-bolt disc hub for 700C wheels?
>>>
>>> For that matter, does anyone have a BLACK, 32-hole, 6-bolt QR axle SP 
>>> dynohub for sale or trade?
>>>
>>> 2. Does anyone have some good-condition Fleecer Ridge tires for sale or 
>>> trade? If trade, whatcha lookin' for?
>>>
>>> Patrick Moore, who wishes he'd kept his small stash of (360 grams!! For 
>>> 50 mm!!) Furious Freds instead of selling them.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Best practice with Sunrace Thumbshifters

[R. Alexis]

Hello Andrew,

What shifters did she have on the bike before? When you said the shifters 
died, what happened? Lever actually break? Was wondering if there was a way 
to make the old shifters still work. 

Shop I frequent replaced some old Shimano brifters that had thumb shifters. 
The 4 anchors nubs broke on the shifter mounting. Looked at how to make it 
work. I initially was able to drill out recesses where the mounting, anchor 
nubs used to be and tried using the smallest ball bearing to hold it in 
place. The shifter ended up sitting a little too tall on the mount. Ended 
up cutting small pieces of a broken spoke to fit in the closed recess of 
the mount and protrude into the drilled out recess. Once remounted this 
helped to anchor the shifter body and work again. 

Thanks,

Reginald Alexis

On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 11:06:00 AM UTC-6 Berkeleyan wrote:

> Brief background, my wife's 1995 B'Stone X0-5 thumb shifters died after a 
> mild crash. I replaced them with the beautiful Sunrace thumbies from the 
> mothership website. Now she complains...
>
> She has Dove bars (like Albatross but more straight-back at the grips) and 
> cork grips, and she was used to the old shifters being closer to her hands 
> than I can get the Sunracers, when mounted in the "outer" position. She 
> tried them mounted as "inner" shifters but couldn't get the knack of using 
> thumbs to press down and finger to left back up. I also think the shifters 
> are further away from the bar than she was used to, and have a longer swing.
>
> When mounted outboard, is there a trick to get less cable pulled so the 
> swing of the shifter is a shorter arc? Maybe that's all about mechanical 
> advantage at the derailer. I'm wondering if anyone else has worked through 
> all the permutations of the "outsider" mounting to find a best way.
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> - Andrew, Berkeley
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[RBW] NorCal Coast Tour Route Feedback

[Stephen]

Hey All,

This week I've been fantasizing about a tour route from Eureka to SF that 
follows the PCH but avoids riding on it as much as possible (within 
reason). So I've been playing around in rwgps and Gaia Gps maps to make 
some route drafts, trying to stay close to the coast but choosing alternate 
roads and dirt roads as much as possible to avoid traffic. 

For the beginning of the route I used part of a Lost Coast tour route that 
ends and begins in Eureka. As for the end, I've done a fair bit of riding 
in Marin and have familiarity with the roads and trails up to Sir Francis 
Drake Road. Will probably make two different route endings, one for east 
bay and one for SF. (the route draft I have now is for eastbay) 

I was wondering if anyone on the list had experience in the other areas up 
the coast, or has done a similar ride, or been on any of the roads I've 
routed or had recommendations? Sometimes you see a road on a map and in 
reality its private access or washed away. Would appreciate any thoughts or 
feedback or anybody who wants to nerd out on maps and routemaking.

Playing with the idea of riding this on my appaloosa in April.

ROUTES:
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/45561107
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/45561484

Let me know if theres trouble accessing those.

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Campy and Riv

[RichS]

Agree on the Silver version 1 shifters. No experience with a Campy but 
years of reliable shifting with a variety of derailers. If you like 
friction shifting then the Silvers are golden.

Best,
Rich in ATL 

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 11:27:15 AM UTC-5 Gary L wrote:

> I have a campy triple rear derailleur on my Riv Ram and use silver 
> friction shifters. It works flawlessly.
>
> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 9:22:18 AM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:
>
>> My 2001 Riv Road has Silver 1st gen barend shifters shifting an 80s Super 
>> Record derailleur and it works fine; any misshifts are totally attributable 
>> to the operator...since derailleurs themselves are not "indexed" I can't 
>> see logically why you can't use Silver shifters with the newer (than my SR) 
>> Campy Racing-T
>>
>> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 7:05:56 PM UTC-6 dylantho...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone - 
>>>
>>> My 93 XO-1 came equipped with campy racing T. Everything is in good 
>>> shape, but it has my least favorite ergo shifters. I'm wanting to upgrade 
>>> to a thumb shifter or downtube. Does anyone have experience running the riv 
>>> silver shifters and campy? 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Items Brakes, Seatposts, Saddles, Derailleurs

[Ben Hannon]

If the touring cantis are available I'll take em!

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 12:54:34 PM UTC-6 John Dewey wrote:

> Mike, I’ll take it! How to pay?
>
> Thanks, Jock
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 10:31 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:
>
>> Hi Jock
>>
>> Yes, XC Pro FD available
>>
>> Mike SLO CA
>>
>> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 10:08:32 AM UTC-8 John Dewey wrote:
>>
>>> Mike, if the XC PRO front D is still around, I’ll take it!
>>>
>>> Jock
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 9:21 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:
>>>
 Hello folks 

 Both B17s
 Paul skewers
 Diacompe 750 brakes
 Crystal Fella post
 Sanyo Gen set
 105 RD

 Mike SLO CA
 On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 11:31:17 PM UTC-8 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Hi Folks 
>
> Some bits from parting out the Monstercross, other items that just 
> seem to pile up. Some of the parts you may recognize, boomerang!  PDF 
> compilation of parts photos.  Ask for the source photos if needed.  
> Combine 
> parts to economize on shipping. If you feel the asking price is too high, 
> please make an offer.  Price includes shipping. 
>
>  Campy GS crank, 170 length, 144 BCD, w/ 45 t ring. Threads in good 
> condition. $40 
>
> Pacenti Forza Classico rims, silver, asymmetric/symmetric pair, 32 
> hole, NIB $220 
>
> Brooks Swallow, black, steel rails, like new condition.  $120 
>
> B17s, brown with copper rivets. $65 each, or $100 for both. 
>
> Suntour Superbe Pro 170 crank, 130 BCD, 53-39 rings. $40 
>
> Cannondale faux carbon al seatpost. 27.2, uncut.  $20 
>
> Promax ISO seatpost. 26.4, uncut.  $20 
>
> SR Custom seatpost, 27.2 uncut.  $15 
>
> Nitto Crystal Fellow seatpost. 27.2, uncut. $40 
>
> Suntour XC Pro FD, 28.6. Chrome good condition. $25 
>
> Shimano 105 long cage RD, RD-5501. $25 
>
> Also have a short cage Tiagra. $15 
>
> Paul Components skewers, black with orange, one bike’s worth 
> 100/135. $90 
>
> Dia Compe Royal Gran Compe brakes 47-57 mm reach, no pads. Recessed, 
> all hardware.  $40  
>
> Paul Components brakes, 1 bike’s worth. Touring Canti and Neo Retro, 
> silver, dual compound Koolstop pads. straddle cables, red hangers.  $165
>  
>
> Dia Compe 750 Centerpull brakes, NIB, 62-78 mm reach, no pads. Nutted, 
> all hardware.  $45 
>
> Avid Shorty cantis 1 bike’s worth. Koolstop/Tektro pads. Missing one 
> barrel for QR end, no straddle cables. $20 
>
> Shimano 1 speed FW 3/32 pitch 18 t, SF-MX30  $15 
>
> Campagnolo Silca Pump metal head  $25 
>
> Sanyo chainstay generator. NIB, includes wires, brackets, front/rear 
> lights, manual  $25 
>
> Ephemera, instruction/sales page for Christrophe toe clips. Raleigh 
> tire pressure gauge, bag of zinc coated steel cables, good for making 
> flexible straddle cables. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Items Brakes, Seatposts, Saddles, Derailleurs

[John Dewey]

Mike, I’ll take it! How to pay?

Thanks, Jock

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 10:31 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:

> Hi Jock
>
> Yes, XC Pro FD available
>
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 10:08:32 AM UTC-8 John Dewey wrote:
>
>> Mike, if the XC PRO front D is still around, I’ll take it!
>>
>> Jock
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 9:21 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello folks
>>>
>>> Both B17s
>>> Paul skewers
>>> Diacompe 750 brakes
>>> Crystal Fella post
>>> Sanyo Gen set
>>> 105 RD
>>>
>>> Mike SLO CA
>>> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 11:31:17 PM UTC-8 Mike Godwin wrote:
>>>
 Hi Folks

 Some bits from parting out the Monstercross, other items that just seem
 to pile up. Some of the parts you may recognize, boomerang!  PDF
 compilation of parts photos.  Ask for the source photos if needed.  Combine
 parts to economize on shipping. If you feel the asking price is too high,
 please make an offer.  Price includes shipping.

  Campy GS crank, 170 length, 144 BCD, w/ 45 t ring. Threads in good
 condition. $40

 Pacenti Forza Classico rims, silver, asymmetric/symmetric pair, 32
 hole, NIB $220

 Brooks Swallow, black, steel rails, like new condition.  $120

 B17s, brown with copper rivets. $65 each, or $100 for both.

 Suntour Superbe Pro 170 crank, 130 BCD, 53-39 rings. $40

 Cannondale faux carbon al seatpost. 27.2, uncut.  $20

 Promax ISO seatpost. 26.4, uncut.  $20

 SR Custom seatpost, 27.2 uncut.  $15

 Nitto Crystal Fellow seatpost. 27.2, uncut. $40

 Suntour XC Pro FD, 28.6. Chrome good condition. $25

 Shimano 105 long cage RD, RD-5501. $25

 Also have a short cage Tiagra. $15

 Paul Components skewers, black with orange, one bike’s worth
 100/135. $90

 Dia Compe Royal Gran Compe brakes 47-57 mm reach, no pads. Recessed,
 all hardware.  $40

 Paul Components brakes, 1 bike’s worth. Touring Canti and Neo Retro,
 silver, dual compound Koolstop pads. straddle cables, red hangers.  $165


 Dia Compe 750 Centerpull brakes, NIB, 62-78 mm reach, no pads. Nutted,
 all hardware.  $45

 Avid Shorty cantis 1 bike’s worth. Koolstop/Tektro pads. Missing one
 barrel for QR end, no straddle cables. $20

 Shimano 1 speed FW 3/32 pitch 18 t, SF-MX30  $15

 Campagnolo Silca Pump metal head  $25

 Sanyo chainstay generator. NIB, includes wires, brackets, front/rear
 lights, manual  $25

 Ephemera, instruction/sales page for Christrophe toe clips. Raleigh
 tire pressure gauge, bag of zinc coated steel cables, good for making
 flexible straddle cables.

 Mike SLO CA

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[RBW] Re: New Platypus

[Ryan]

That is a handsome bikeyeah, fun to swap out parts to make it your own 
and those are fine choices. That Sergio Green is a subtle color and I like 
those matching grips

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 9:17:40 AM UTC-6 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> Tim, please pardon my disagreement, but I think your description of the 
> Platy's ride quality is perfect - "sublime".  Anything more would just be 
> so many words.  
>
> Though it's a 50cm frame set with 650b wheels, my 2022 Platypus is built 
> up similar to yours - Billie bars, B17 saddle, front rack, a 44-34-24 
> triple crankset, and of course, plump tires (42mm RH slicks under 62mm 
> Honjos).  The more I ride it the more I love it. So, needless to say, 
> I'm digging your Platypus!!!
>
> Steve In Asheville
> On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 7:49:05 AM UTC-5 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Love a Platypus with Billie Bars. Happy riding!
>>
>> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:31:06 PM UTC-8 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> Took advantage of the rare warm weather we are having to take my new 
>>> Platypus out. I purchased this 60cm Sergio's Green as a complete bike. At 
>>> first I thought I'd ride it complete as it was delivered right out of the 
>>> box. Although it was fine with the SunRace parts that came with bike I just 
>>> couldn't live with the aesthetic. I swapped a few parts to make it my own 
>>> and I now have it built the way I wanted it. 
>>>
>>> The Platypus is probably the nicest riding Rivendell I've ever owned. 
>>> I'm not very good at putting ride quality into words but it just feels 
>>> sublime. The combination of the laid back geometry and the chubby tires are 
>>> bike factors. I found that having more of my weight on the front end of the 
>>> bike by angling the bars down made a big difference. I also changed the 
>>> stem to a 135mm up from a 110mm. I am really happy with the bike and know 
>>> that it will serve me well through the years. 
>>>
>>> Here is what I swapped out to make it my own. 
>>>
>>> Nitto Billie Bars
>>> Shimano XTR M952 RD
>>> Shimano Deore DX FD
>>> Silver Triple Cranks. 44x34x24
>>> SunTour Power XC Power Ratchets
>>> Brooks B-17 Special
>>> Paul Love Levers
>>> Oury Grips
>>> Added SimsXNitto Obento Rack
>>> Wald 137
>>> 5th Season Squall Sack
>>>
>>> [image: 378813CC-FB63-412C-8A4F-CC94A83F5E88_1_105_c.jpeg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Items Brakes, Seatposts, Saddles, Derailleurs

[Mike Godwin]

Hi Jock

Yes, XC Pro FD available

Mike SLO CA

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 10:08:32 AM UTC-8 John Dewey wrote:

> Mike, if the XC PRO front D is still around, I’ll take it!
>
> Jock
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 9:21 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:
>
>> Hello folks 
>>
>> Both B17s
>> Paul skewers
>> Diacompe 750 brakes
>> Crystal Fella post
>> Sanyo Gen set
>> 105 RD
>>
>> Mike SLO CA
>> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 11:31:17 PM UTC-8 Mike Godwin wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks 
>>>
>>> Some bits from parting out the Monstercross, other items that just seem 
>>> to pile up. Some of the parts you may recognize, boomerang!  PDF 
>>> compilation of parts photos.  Ask for the source photos if needed.  Combine 
>>> parts to economize on shipping. If you feel the asking price is too high, 
>>> please make an offer.  Price includes shipping. 
>>>
>>>  Campy GS crank, 170 length, 144 BCD, w/ 45 t ring. Threads in good 
>>> condition. $40 
>>>
>>> Pacenti Forza Classico rims, silver, asymmetric/symmetric pair, 32 hole, 
>>> NIB $220 
>>>
>>> Brooks Swallow, black, steel rails, like new condition.  $120 
>>>
>>> B17s, brown with copper rivets. $65 each, or $100 for both. 
>>>
>>> Suntour Superbe Pro 170 crank, 130 BCD, 53-39 rings. $40 
>>>
>>> Cannondale faux carbon al seatpost. 27.2, uncut.  $20 
>>>
>>> Promax ISO seatpost. 26.4, uncut.  $20 
>>>
>>> SR Custom seatpost, 27.2 uncut.  $15 
>>>
>>> Nitto Crystal Fellow seatpost. 27.2, uncut. $40 
>>>
>>> Suntour XC Pro FD, 28.6. Chrome good condition. $25 
>>>
>>> Shimano 105 long cage RD, RD-5501. $25 
>>>
>>> Also have a short cage Tiagra. $15 
>>>
>>> Paul Components skewers, black with orange, one bike’s worth 100/135. $90
>>>  
>>>
>>> Dia Compe Royal Gran Compe brakes 47-57 mm reach, no pads. Recessed, all 
>>> hardware.  $40  
>>>
>>> Paul Components brakes, 1 bike’s worth. Touring Canti and Neo Retro, 
>>> silver, dual compound Koolstop pads. straddle cables, red hangers.  $165
>>>  
>>>
>>> Dia Compe 750 Centerpull brakes, NIB, 62-78 mm reach, no pads. Nutted, 
>>> all hardware.  $45 
>>>
>>> Avid Shorty cantis 1 bike’s worth. Koolstop/Tektro pads. Missing one 
>>> barrel for QR end, no straddle cables. $20 
>>>
>>> Shimano 1 speed FW 3/32 pitch 18 t, SF-MX30  $15 
>>>
>>> Campagnolo Silca Pump metal head  $25 
>>>
>>> Sanyo chainstay generator. NIB, includes wires, brackets, front/rear 
>>> lights, manual  $25 
>>>
>>> Ephemera, instruction/sales page for Christrophe toe clips. Raleigh tire 
>>> pressure gauge, bag of zinc coated steel cables, good for making flexible 
>>> straddle cables. 
>>>
>>> Mike SLO CA
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS Items Brakes, Seatposts, Saddles, Derailleurs

[Mike Godwin]

Hi sorry about that!
What a dope I am. Forgot to write

THESE ITEMS CLAIMED sheese
Both B17s
Paul skewers
Diacompe 750 brakes
Crystal Fella post
Sanyo Gen set
105 RD
Mike SLO CA
Mike SLO CA

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 9:21:29 AM UTC-8 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Hello folks 
>
> Both B17s
> Paul skewers
> Diacompe 750 brakes
> Crystal Fella post
> Sanyo Gen set
> 105 RD
>
> Mike SLO CA
> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 11:31:17 PM UTC-8 Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks 
>>
>> Some bits from parting out the Monstercross, other items that just seem 
>> to pile up. Some of the parts you may recognize, boomerang!  PDF 
>> compilation of parts photos.  Ask for the source photos if needed.  Combine 
>> parts to economize on shipping. If you feel the asking price is too high, 
>> please make an offer.  Price includes shipping. 
>>
>>  Campy GS crank, 170 length, 144 BCD, w/ 45 t ring. Threads in good 
>> condition. $40 
>>
>> Pacenti Forza Classico rims, silver, asymmetric/symmetric pair, 32 hole, 
>> NIB $220 
>>
>> Brooks Swallow, black, steel rails, like new condition.  $120 
>>
>> B17s, brown with copper rivets. $65 each, or $100 for both. 
>>
>> Suntour Superbe Pro 170 crank, 130 BCD, 53-39 rings. $40 
>>
>> Cannondale faux carbon al seatpost. 27.2, uncut.  $20 
>>
>> Promax ISO seatpost. 26.4, uncut.  $20 
>>
>> SR Custom seatpost, 27.2 uncut.  $15 
>>
>> Nitto Crystal Fellow seatpost. 27.2, uncut. $40 
>>
>> Suntour XC Pro FD, 28.6. Chrome good condition. $25 
>>
>> Shimano 105 long cage RD, RD-5501. $25 
>>
>> Also have a short cage Tiagra. $15 
>>
>> Paul Components skewers, black with orange, one bike’s worth 100/135. $90
>>  
>>
>> Dia Compe Royal Gran Compe brakes 47-57 mm reach, no pads. Recessed, all 
>> hardware.  $40  
>>
>> Paul Components brakes, 1 bike’s worth. Touring Canti and Neo Retro, 
>> silver, dual compound Koolstop pads. straddle cables, red hangers.  $165 
>>
>> Dia Compe 750 Centerpull brakes, NIB, 62-78 mm reach, no pads. Nutted, 
>> all hardware.  $45 
>>
>> Avid Shorty cantis 1 bike’s worth. Koolstop/Tektro pads. Missing one 
>> barrel for QR end, no straddle cables. $20 
>>
>> Shimano 1 speed FW 3/32 pitch 18 t, SF-MX30  $15 
>>
>> Campagnolo Silca Pump metal head  $25 
>>
>> Sanyo chainstay generator. NIB, includes wires, brackets, front/rear 
>> lights, manual  $25 
>>
>> Ephemera, instruction/sales page for Christrophe toe clips. Raleigh tire 
>> pressure gauge, bag of zinc coated steel cables, good for making flexible 
>> straddle cables. 
>>
>> Mike SLO CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS Items Brakes, Seatposts, Saddles, Derailleurs

[John Dewey]

Mike, if the XC PRO front D is still around, I’ll take it!

Jock

On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 9:21 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:

> Hello folks
>
> Both B17s
> Paul skewers
> Diacompe 750 brakes
> Crystal Fella post
> Sanyo Gen set
> 105 RD
>
> Mike SLO CA
> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 11:31:17 PM UTC-8 Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks
>>
>> Some bits from parting out the Monstercross, other items that just seem
>> to pile up. Some of the parts you may recognize, boomerang!  PDF
>> compilation of parts photos.  Ask for the source photos if needed.  Combine
>> parts to economize on shipping. If you feel the asking price is too high,
>> please make an offer.  Price includes shipping.
>>
>>  Campy GS crank, 170 length, 144 BCD, w/ 45 t ring. Threads in good
>> condition. $40
>>
>> Pacenti Forza Classico rims, silver, asymmetric/symmetric pair, 32 hole,
>> NIB $220
>>
>> Brooks Swallow, black, steel rails, like new condition.  $120
>>
>> B17s, brown with copper rivets. $65 each, or $100 for both.
>>
>> Suntour Superbe Pro 170 crank, 130 BCD, 53-39 rings. $40
>>
>> Cannondale faux carbon al seatpost. 27.2, uncut.  $20
>>
>> Promax ISO seatpost. 26.4, uncut.  $20
>>
>> SR Custom seatpost, 27.2 uncut.  $15
>>
>> Nitto Crystal Fellow seatpost. 27.2, uncut. $40
>>
>> Suntour XC Pro FD, 28.6. Chrome good condition. $25
>>
>> Shimano 105 long cage RD, RD-5501. $25
>>
>> Also have a short cage Tiagra. $15
>>
>> Paul Components skewers, black with orange, one bike’s worth 100/135. $90
>>
>>
>> Dia Compe Royal Gran Compe brakes 47-57 mm reach, no pads. Recessed, all
>> hardware.  $40
>>
>> Paul Components brakes, 1 bike’s worth. Touring Canti and Neo Retro,
>> silver, dual compound Koolstop pads. straddle cables, red hangers.  $165
>>
>> Dia Compe 750 Centerpull brakes, NIB, 62-78 mm reach, no pads. Nutted,
>> all hardware.  $45
>>
>> Avid Shorty cantis 1 bike’s worth. Koolstop/Tektro pads. Missing one
>> barrel for QR end, no straddle cables. $20
>>
>> Shimano 1 speed FW 3/32 pitch 18 t, SF-MX30  $15
>>
>> Campagnolo Silca Pump metal head  $25
>>
>> Sanyo chainstay generator. NIB, includes wires, brackets, front/rear
>> lights, manual  $25
>>
>> Ephemera, instruction/sales page for Christrophe toe clips. Raleigh tire
>> pressure gauge, bag of zinc coated steel cables, good for making flexible
>> straddle cables.
>>
>> Mike SLO CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS Items Brakes, Seatposts, Saddles, Derailleurs

[Mike Godwin]

Hello folks 

Both B17s
Paul skewers
Diacompe 750 brakes
Crystal Fella post
Sanyo Gen set
105 RD

Mike SLO CA
On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 11:31:17 PM UTC-8 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Hi Folks 
>
> Some bits from parting out the Monstercross, other items that just seem to 
> pile up. Some of the parts you may recognize, boomerang!  PDF compilation 
> of parts photos.  Ask for the source photos if needed.  Combine parts to 
> economize on shipping. If you feel the asking price is too high, please 
> make an offer.  Price includes shipping. 
>
>  Campy GS crank, 170 length, 144 BCD, w/ 45 t ring. Threads in good 
> condition. $40 
>
> Pacenti Forza Classico rims, silver, asymmetric/symmetric pair, 32 hole, 
> NIB $220 
>
> Brooks Swallow, black, steel rails, like new condition.  $120 
>
> B17s, brown with copper rivets. $65 each, or $100 for both. 
>
> Suntour Superbe Pro 170 crank, 130 BCD, 53-39 rings. $40 
>
> Cannondale faux carbon al seatpost. 27.2, uncut.  $20 
>
> Promax ISO seatpost. 26.4, uncut.  $20 
>
> SR Custom seatpost, 27.2 uncut.  $15 
>
> Nitto Crystal Fellow seatpost. 27.2, uncut. $40 
>
> Suntour XC Pro FD, 28.6. Chrome good condition. $25 
>
> Shimano 105 long cage RD, RD-5501. $25 
>
> Also have a short cage Tiagra. $15 
>
> Paul Components skewers, black with orange, one bike’s worth 100/135. $90 
>
> Dia Compe Royal Gran Compe brakes 47-57 mm reach, no pads. Recessed, all 
> hardware.  $40  
>
> Paul Components brakes, 1 bike’s worth. Touring Canti and Neo Retro, 
> silver, dual compound Koolstop pads. straddle cables, red hangers.  $165 
>
> Dia Compe 750 Centerpull brakes, NIB, 62-78 mm reach, no pads. Nutted, all 
> hardware.  $45 
>
> Avid Shorty cantis 1 bike’s worth. Koolstop/Tektro pads. Missing one 
> barrel for QR end, no straddle cables. $20 
>
> Shimano 1 speed FW 3/32 pitch 18 t, SF-MX30  $15 
>
> Campagnolo Silca Pump metal head  $25 
>
> Sanyo chainstay generator. NIB, includes wires, brackets, front/rear 
> lights, manual  $25 
>
> Ephemera, instruction/sales page for Christrophe toe clips. Raleigh tire 
> pressure gauge, bag of zinc coated steel cables, good for making flexible 
> straddle cables. 
>
> Mike SLO CA
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Los Angeles Riv Ride

[Armand Kizirian]

March 2nd would be best for me! Will be gone the following weeks in the 
month. 

I HAVE been dialing in my rain-commuting setup, but it would be a shame to 
not enjoy a sunny day with all of you. 

On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 3:13:06 PM UTC-8 heike...@gmail.com wrote:

> Earlier in March is better for me - March 2 or March 16 would be best, but 
> I can do March 9. Already have other outdoorsy plans for March 23rd (hiking 
> Santiago Peak here in OC) and March 30 is spring break. 
>
> I hope we can find a time in early March - would love to ride with fellow 
> Rivs (never have met another Riv rider in person yet!)
>
> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 3:05:10 PM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> I’d be available any Saturday in March  
>> k.
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 2:02 PM, Ted Durant  wrote:
>>
>> I just arrived in San Gabriel and am here until the 18th. I’m hoping to 
>> ride pretty much every day while here. Happy to meet up, but I don’t have a 
>> car so it will need to be riding distance. Shame about the forecast for 
>> next weekend, hopefully that will change!
>>
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee, WI
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 7:52 AM, Brian Cunningham  
>> wrote:
>>
>> If we’re thinking Saturdays, I’m free for either 3/2 or 3/30, if that 
>> works for y’all.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2024, at 7:35 AM, Tony Lockhart  wrote:
>>
>> *Calling all fair weather cyclists: *Looks like 2 inches of rain in the 
>> forecast for Saturday the 17th. I'm happy to postpone or suffer through the 
>> rain, provided there's a hot coffee stop along the route. 
>>
>> How are other folks feeling? Wondering if it would be prudent to push the 
>> ride date out to March.
>>
>> On Friday, January 12, 2024 at 11:00:39 AM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:
>>
>>> My son is planning to come too, he has a 55cm lime Platy from the first 
>>> run
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 12:11:50 PM UTC-8 kiziria...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I would recommend minimal singletrack to keep this ride as inclusive as 
 possible. Not all Riv riders have extra wide tires / experience on dirt. 
 (Not speaking for myself, I prefer dirt) Don't wanna scare anyone off! The 
 more the merrier. 

 Wasn't able to visit AllezLA as they were closed on Tuesday. Will post 
 ride beta here as I gather it from friends / perhaps a future visit. 

 On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 5:12:41 PM UTC-8 Donzaemon wrote:

> Sounds like a fun ride. Wish I was still local!
>
> On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 5:04:07 PM UTC-8 heike...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm fine with 30+ miles and fire roads; not so sure about any kind of 
>> steep or technical single-track (not sure what you mean by flowy, 
>> Riv-friendly single-track, P.W.. I've done a limited amount of 
>> single-track 
>> with my mountain bike, and I've gotten off and walked on steep, rocky 
>> parts, and I haven't taken my Appaloosa on any of that type of trail. I 
>> know the bike can do it; I'm just not sure I can :)  Overall, though, 
>> the 
>> path and plan you suggest sounds fun, P.W.!  
>>
>> How early is early? I'm an early riser, and I have to drive in from 
>> South Orange County. Google says it will take me 1:30 hours to get to 
>> Allez. 
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 8:09 PM Tony Lockhart  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just wondering what the fitness, technical ability, and comfort 
>>> level of people are. While I've never taken my bike on single track, I 
>>> love 
>>> to try out some flowy curves and fire roadsand I'm quite happy to 
>>> do 
>>> 30+ miles on mixed terrain, especially if we get an early start. I'm 
>>> super 
>>> flexible.
>>>
>>> How are others feeling? I'd rather defer to the group, in favor of 
>>> getting more people to attend. The more, the merrier, IMO.
>>>
>>>
>>> @Armand - Glad to hear that you'll be visiting Allez. Perhaps you 
>>> can let us know if any good ideas or routes come up when you chat with 
>>> Kyle. I think it would be great if we kept the ride on this side of 
>>> town. I 
>>> can't speak for others, but I'd welcome a future ride on the west side.
>>>
>>> @Phil - Great idea for a route; you've got my vote! I know Ted had 
>>> mentioned Cherry Canyon. Sign me up for flowy single track and a beer 
>>> anyday! 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 7, 2024 at 4:37:01 PM UTC-8 philip@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Meeting at Allez wouldn’t be a bad idea.

 Riv dealers and great people, after all!

 I’m sure they’d be happy to host. Plus Collage coffee is down the 
 block.

 Highland Park to South Pas, Rosebowl over to Cherry Canyon, down 
 through the Sports Complex singletrack, ending with a beer and hot dog 
 at 
 Walt’s is never 

[RBW] Re: Armand’s Garage Sale Extravaganza Part 1/2: Nitto, Paul, White Ind, Silver, Shimano, Herse, & More!

[Armand Kizirian]

*New additions at the top, and discounted prices below. Buy my stuff! Fund 
my Platypus! *


*NEW STUFF TO THE LIST: *

   - Platypus Complete 700c/29er wheels! I'm very impressed by this 
   handsome wheelset. Silky smooth hubs, fun black/silver alternating spoke 
   nipples, no-nonsense Alex DM24 rims, WITH excellent Soma Shikoro tires! 
   I'll throw in the quick release skewers too. How's $450 + cheapest shipping 
   via pirateship sound? 
   - NITTO NR-20 rear saddle bag support NEW - The cutest, strongest little 
   rack you've ever seen, and sold out everywhere for quite some time. Yes, 
   originally made for 26" frames, but you can bend the arms/tabs to make them 
   fit nearly anything, not that far off. $110 shipped! 
   - Sram GX Eagle 10-52t cassette + chain, NEW - Blasphemy posting this 
   here? Not if you need it! Prove me right for only $200 shipped. ;) 
   
*UPDATES AND DISCOUNTED PRICES:*

*(Reminder: P**rices include shipping, discounts for multiple item 
purchases or local pick-up. * *View detailed photos here in my dropbox. 
*
 
*)* 

*Hard Goods:*

   - New take-off Silver cranks 172mm - includes original new chainring 
   bolts, new steel 28t inner ring, and used Middleburn chainrings - 50/40/28t 
   - $180 *NOW $165*
   - Tubus Airy Titanium rear pannier rack - new - over $400 new, weighs 
   360g and holds 57lbs (view photos for tire clearance w/ 48mm tires on my 
   Platypus) - $350 *NOW $325*
   - White Industries 68x113mm SS bottom bracket - Less than 50 miles, some 
   blemishes on the lockring, otherwise spins like new. *$110!*
   - Paul QR Skewers - Purple - New in box never mounted - $200 ($216 + 
   tax/shipping new) *NOW $165*
   

   - Ultradynamico Cava race tires - 27.5 x 2.2?” - 100% new - Typically 
   $180+ to your door - $160 - *NOW $140*
   - Nitto “T” Bottle Cage - New in box - $60 - *Price drop to $50*
   

   - Shimano Ultegra 9-speed CS-6500 Cassette - 12-27t - Excellent used 
   condition, no “mushrooming” on the edges of the engaged teeth present - $40 
*NOW 
   $30*
   

   - MKS Gamma/Monarch Pedals, Silver, WITH black Rivendell side-step 
   extensions - new in box - *SOLD*
   

   - Maxxis 26 x 2.3” DTH Tires - Less than 25 miles - Ultra rare light 
   skin tanwall that has been out of production for several years - 
   lightweight, smooth rolling, and great looking - *$75 pair*
   

   - Rene Herse front cable hangar - grooved ferrule version - New never 
   mounted - *SOLD*
   - Kryptonite Mini+ evolution U-lock w/ wheel extension - like new - 
   *SOLD*


   - Dura Ace 7410 titanium crank arm bolts - excellent condition - *$25*


   - King cargo cage (without the box ) - *SOLD*
   - Pletscher Edge Kickstand - signs of use, hard to find - *$25*
   

   - Tange square taper bb - 68x103mm - NEW - *SOLD*
   - Koolstop thinline threaded pads x4 - black - new - *SOLD*
   

   - Niterider Lumina 550 headlight - Very little use over the years, 
   mostly stored with an appropriate level of charge for good battery health - 
   some dust from burning man on there (no charge ;) -* $20*

*Soft Goods:*

   - Patagonia Men’s Houdini windbreaker jacket - size medium, grey - 
   slight tear on the inside chest pocket, does not effect the main body 
   fabric. amazing piece that weighs and packs down to nothing! Only selling 
   because I bought another one - *SOLD*
   

   - Mission Workshop Torre Merino Wool Hoodie Black - size medium - 
   Midweight 100% merino wool sweater, amazing piece in excellent condition 
   but a very trim fit, would recommend it if you are a small/extra small or 
   are a medium but want an on-the-body fit - $100
   - Ornot tech shirts - size medium (fits like a small) dark grey and 
   “mars” red - very unique fabric - *$40 for 2*


   - Ornot Mission shorts - red - size 30 - Like new, no signs of use - 
   *$75*
   

   - Ornot Mini handlebar bag + seat bag - fun “nordic” color - new w/ tags 
   - *$60*
   - Brooks Dalston Medium lime-olive backpack - new in bag and very 
   stylish/handsome/well-made - costs $207 new - $125 -* NOW $100*

My Platypus thanks you! 

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[RBW] Re: Campy and Riv

['Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have a campy triple rear derailleur on my Riv Ram and use silver friction 
shifters. It works flawlessly.

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 9:22:18 AM UTC-5 Ryan wrote:

> My 2001 Riv Road has Silver 1st gen barend shifters shifting an 80s Super 
> Record derailleur and it works fine; any misshifts are totally attributable 
> to the operator...since derailleurs themselves are not "indexed" I can't 
> see logically why you can't use Silver shifters with the newer (than my SR) 
> Campy Racing-T
>
> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 7:05:56 PM UTC-6 dylantho...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone - 
>>
>> My 93 XO-1 came equipped with campy racing T. Everything is in good 
>> shape, but it has my least favorite ergo shifters. I'm wanting to upgrade 
>> to a thumb shifter or downtube. Does anyone have experience running the riv 
>> silver shifters and campy? 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Platypus

[Steve]

Tim, please pardon my disagreement, but I think your description of the 
Platy's ride quality is perfect - "sublime".  Anything more would just be 
so many words.  

Though it's a 50cm frame set with 650b wheels, my 2022 Platypus is built up 
similar to yours - Billie bars, B17 saddle, front rack, a 44-34-24 triple 
crankset, and of course, plump tires (42mm RH slicks under 62mm Honjos). 
 The more I ride it the more I love it. So, needless to say, I'm 
digging your Platypus!!!

Steve In Asheville
On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 7:49:05 AM UTC-5 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Love a Platypus with Billie Bars. Happy riding!
>
> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:31:06 PM UTC-8 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> Took advantage of the rare warm weather we are having to take my new 
>> Platypus out. I purchased this 60cm Sergio's Green as a complete bike. At 
>> first I thought I'd ride it complete as it was delivered right out of the 
>> box. Although it was fine with the SunRace parts that came with bike I just 
>> couldn't live with the aesthetic. I swapped a few parts to make it my own 
>> and I now have it built the way I wanted it. 
>>
>> The Platypus is probably the nicest riding Rivendell I've ever owned. I'm 
>> not very good at putting ride quality into words but it just feels sublime. 
>> The combination of the laid back geometry and the chubby tires are bike 
>> factors. I found that having more of my weight on the front end of the bike 
>> by angling the bars down made a big difference. I also changed the stem to 
>> a 135mm up from a 110mm. I am really happy with the bike and know that it 
>> will serve me well through the years. 
>>
>> Here is what I swapped out to make it my own. 
>>
>> Nitto Billie Bars
>> Shimano XTR M952 RD
>> Shimano Deore DX FD
>> Silver Triple Cranks. 44x34x24
>> SunTour Power XC Power Ratchets
>> Brooks B-17 Special
>> Paul Love Levers
>> Oury Grips
>> Added SimsXNitto Obento Rack
>> Wald 137
>> 5th Season Squall Sack
>>
>> [image: 378813CC-FB63-412C-8A4F-CC94A83F5E88_1_105_c.jpeg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Intro post, pics of my RIvs, and a Homer fit question

[Garth]

Zipp's Service Course XPLR 70 come in silver and are short reach/shallow 
drop. (70/115). I chose this bar as I'm using a long body Tektro brake 
lever(341) and my frames have a longer than usual reach. So with this 
riding with my hands on the top/middles is as entirely comfortable as the 
hoods and the drops as I still have lots of reach to stretch out in all 
positions. The middle is oval shaped and has a slight 4-5d flare back to 
it. Subtle but noticeable. I just can't see going back to a rounded middle 
type of bar. I also bought a Ritchey Skyline Comp(black only) which has a 
similar ergo top and small drop/reach, but haven't used them yet. These 
change in reach/drop slightly per width. 

Zipp has some some other silver drop bars too. I'd like to try them all, 
but you know how that goes .. 

The Tektro 341 "compact" lever has the same full body as the 340, but the 
lever itself is shaped different so it's easier to grab in the drops. 
They're marketed for small-er hands, but I find they mate perfectly with 
shallow drop bars, and I have XL hands. I'm not a fan of the bent/offset 
levers though as I think it flares out too much. It seems a solution to a 
non-existent problem, and creates a problem in doing so, doh ! 

As for the saddle position, sheesh. Well everything I ever thought about 
positioning oneself over the BB has been shown to be folly, so about all I 
can say is if you get the urge to move forward, just do it and see what 
happens. :-)


On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 8:23:11 PM UTC-5 ian m wrote:

> If you, like me, prefer Nitto to all alternatives check out the M151. I 
> believe Soma sells that model as well.
>
> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 5:58:50 PM UTC-5 eitanz...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> You guys have given me multiple good handlebar suggestions! I think I 
>> will rule out the Specialized bars though, as they seem to come in black 
>> only. That's fine for the Breezer but for this bike, I really want silver. 
>>  Looks like both the Ritchey Venturemax and VO Randonneur are both 31.8mm 
>> only. The Soma Highway One  is available  in 26mm--so by process of 
>> elimination may be the winner...
>>
>> --Eitan
>> Los Angeles
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 2:18:22 PM UTC-8 Elisabeth Sherwood 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, btw, for those who need to find something with absolutely the 
>>> shortest reach possible (and are okay with black handlebars and a 31.8mm 
>>> handlebar clamp), Specialized "Short Reach" bars have a 65mm reach!  (And 
>>> the rest of the lovely shape as the Hover and Shallow Bend handlebars...)  
>>> They only come in 36cm, 38cm, and 40cm widths (which probably works fine 
>>> for most people who need ridiculously short-reach bars!)
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.specialized.com/us/en/short-reach-handlebars/p/156040?color=230922-156040
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Liz 
>>> Washington DC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 5:13:57 PM UTC-5 Elisabeth Sherwood 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I second Patrick's thoughts on the saddle position -- don't adjust for 
 reach using the saddle position! Rather, get the saddle where you want it 
 and then figure out how to get the bars in the right position.

 But, re. the Specialized Hover bars, don't forget that they feature 
 15mm of rise, while Eitan is finding that his handlebars are already too 
 high!

 The Specialized Expert Alloy Shallow Bend bar features the same shape 
 and 75mm reach of the Hover, but without the rise...  But it remains less 
 than ideal on a Riv because it's available only in black and with a 31.8mm 
 clamp diameter.

 For that reason, I always return to the Soma Highway One handlebar!  
 Available in silver, and in 26.0mm clamp diameters! (Same 75mm reach as 
 the 
 Specialized bars...)

 Liz
 Washington, DC



 On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 2:27:41 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Ethan: Two suggestions:
>
> 1. Don't use saddle adjustment to adjust your bar. Get your saddle 
> where it should be for greatest comfort and pedaling efficiency -- saddle 
> height and setback in relation to the bottom bracket or crank axle is 
> where 
> I start my setup -- and then determine from saddle position where your 
> bar 
> should be, and choose stem and bar to suit.
>
> 2. For the ultimate in shortness and shallowness in a drop bar 
> (narrowness too, it seems), take a look at the Specialized Hover bar: 
> https://www.specialized.com/us/en/hover-expert-alloy-handlebars--15mm-rise/p/156001?color=230548-156001
>
> It's ugly but it has essentially no ramps because the reach is so 
> short and it has a very shallow drop *with* a 15 mm rise at the stem 
> clamp. I used one of these on my erstwhile Medium 2012 Monocog (gave it 
> to 
> a friend) to get a drop bar more or less comfortable on a frame with (by 
> my 
> 

Re: [RBW] Brevet #2 of 2024, this time on my Legolas

[JohnS]

Congrats Bill on completing your 1st 200K this year in 9 hours and loosing 
12 pounds. I'm sure being that much lighter helped going up the hills. 

JohnS

On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 2:23:03 AM UTC-5 Steven Sweedler wrote:

> Nice ride Bill, I enjoy your very readable write ups.
>
> Steven Sweedler
> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 2:11 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
>> Today was the SFRandonneurs Russian River 200k brevet.  Executive 
>> summary: I did it on my Legolas, and finished in 9 hours on the button, 
>> clock running, which is a very good time for me. I'm fired up to tackle the 
>> 300 in March.  
>>
>> TL/DR
>>
>> I was signed up for the 2/24 200k, in preparation for the 3/9 300k event, 
>> but a family gathering got arranged on that weekend and I had to pivot to 
>> the 2/10 event.  It's fortunate that SFR has so many events, especially in 
>> the Winter months.  The Russian River 200k route looks like two lollipops. 
>> Unlike most SFR Marin County rides, it doesn't start at the Golden Gate 
>> Bridge.  Instead it starts at the end of Lucas Valley Road in San Rafael.  
>> The "stem" of the first lollipop follows Lucas Valley Road all the way to 
>> Nicosio. Then you go counter clockwise around the first half of the first 
>> lollipop hitting the tip of the stem of the second lollipop in Fallon.  The 
>> second stem ends in Valley Ford, and then we go counter clockwise again up 
>> through Occidental, Rio Vista, Guerneville and alongside the Russian 
>> River.  That second lollipop loop meets up with the Pacific Coast and curls 
>> back down to Valley Ford, retraces stem #2 and returns to the coast along 
>> Tomales Bay before meeting back up with stem #1 in Nicosio, and it's back 
>> Lucas Valley Road to where you started.  It was a gorgeous route and a 
>> splendid day.  After a ton of heavy rain, there was a lot of evidence of it 
>> having been stormy, and lots of wet roads, but no rain today. 
>>
>> At the start at 7AM temperatures were in the low 40s, so I wore bib 
>> shorts plus knee warmers.  I wore a wool base layer, and a thermal SFR long 
>> sleeve jersey, with my rain jacket over that and a reflective vest on top 
>> of that.  I wore some light full finger gloves, and over socks over my road 
>> shoes.  It dropped to the mid 30s in some of the valleys and my fingers 
>> were in pain from the cold.  I was just barely warm enough on the feet, and 
>> for a minute I wished I had worn a buff or similar to pull over my nose and 
>> ears.  By 10AM it warmed up enough that it was no longer a problem, and in 
>> the afternoon a lot of the layers came off as the temperatures got up to 
>> the mid 50s.  
>>
>> My Legolas was originally a 1x10, but I changed it out to a 2x10 late 
>> last year.  I used It on my birthday to summit Mount Diablo, with Barlow 
>> Pass Extralight road tires.  The bike did great on that ride, but after 55 
>> miles, my saddle was not comfortable.  I've got an ultra lightweight Selle 
>> Italia saddle on there, because it's a cyclocross race bike!  Races last an 
>> hour and you're running part of the time.  Who cares if your saddle is 
>> comfortable?  The night before I swapped out my Gilles Berthoud Soulor 
>> leather saddle, and I'm glad I did.  My hindquarters handled the day 
>> without any objections.  
>>
>> The bike did perfectly.  Fast and nimble, but easy to control.  No 
>> mechanicals and no flats.  I hammered the last 40km to just get under the 
>> wire at 9 hours.  Strava gives me 8 hours 40 minutes moving.  My fitness is 
>> progressing nicely.  I've lost about 12 pounds of pudge I didn't need, and 
>> my general strength from Orange Theory Fitness seems to be paying 
>> dividends.  Despite a couple nagging aches and pains, the body did well 
>> today.  
>>
>> Another last minute bike setup change was I decided to run Look style 
>> pedals, instead of SPDs.  My left ankle has been bugging me and I feel a 
>> lot more planted on the solid wide platform of Look pedals.  That choice 
>> served me well all day, with no foot, pedal or ankle issues.  
>>
>> Nutrition-wise I did nothing in preparation.  I had a biggish breakfast 
>> and packed no food.  In Valley Ford I bought a chocolate chip cookie, a 
>> package of cashews and a bag of Hairdo ginger candy.  On my second trip to 
>> Valley Ford I restocked water and had a slice of Lemon Cake.  That all did 
>> fine, and I didn't actually get into the cashews until after the ride.  
>>
>> I did my normal Four 50k sections.  Section 1 I took it easy and warmed 
>> up.  Section 2 I pushed harder.  Section 3, I dug deep and got after it.  
>> Section 4 would normally be a mellow victory lap to get you home, but I 
>> really wanted to make 9 hours so I hammered, and it worked out.  A couple 
>> of the "fast group" riders who went off the front at the start were still 
>> at the finish when I got there, so I wasn't far behind them.  
>>
>> Anyway, I'm pleased with my ride and feel ready 

[RBW] Re: For Sale: NOS vintage Rivendell cycling cap

[Eric Marth]

Trade pending, thanks for all the interest! 

On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 7:12:13 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> [image: IMG_0309.jpg]
>
> This vintage cap is in excellent, unworn condition. Eight panel made by 
> Pace Sport Wear in the USA. Cap is yellow buttercream and a brownish gray 
> with green details on the letters and logos. Bright white sweat band, new 
> cap profile. Cap and elastic have not been shaped by wear, tried on at 
> most, does not appear to have been worn or sweated in. 
>
> [image: IMG_0306.jpg]
>
> Asking $65 shipped CONUS. Would trade for a VAR third hand tool. 
>
> Thanks!  :0) 
>
> [image: IMG_0310.JPG]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Campy and Riv

[Ryan]

My 2001 Riv Road has Silver 1st gen barend shifters shifting an 80s Super 
Record derailleur and it works fine; any misshifts are totally attributable 
to the operator...since derailleurs themselves are not "indexed" I can't 
see logically why you can't use Silver shifters with the newer (than my SR) 
Campy Racing-T

On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 7:05:56 PM UTC-6 dylantho...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi everyone - 
>
> My 93 XO-1 came equipped with campy racing T. Everything is in good shape, 
> but it has my least favorite ergo shifters. I'm wanting to upgrade to a 
> thumb shifter or downtube. Does anyone have experience running the riv 
> silver shifters and campy? 
>

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[RBW] Re: New Platypus

[Sarah Carlson]

Love a Platypus with Billie Bars. Happy riding!

On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:31:06 PM UTC-8 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Took advantage of the rare warm weather we are having to take my new 
> Platypus out. I purchased this 60cm Sergio's Green as a complete bike. At 
> first I thought I'd ride it complete as it was delivered right out of the 
> box. Although it was fine with the SunRace parts that came with bike I just 
> couldn't live with the aesthetic. I swapped a few parts to make it my own 
> and I now have it built the way I wanted it. 
>
> The Platypus is probably the nicest riding Rivendell I've ever owned. I'm 
> not very good at putting ride quality into words but it just feels sublime. 
> The combination of the laid back geometry and the chubby tires are bike 
> factors. I found that having more of my weight on the front end of the bike 
> by angling the bars down made a big difference. I also changed the stem to 
> a 135mm up from a 110mm. I am really happy with the bike and know that it 
> will serve me well through the years. 
>
> Here is what I swapped out to make it my own. 
>
> Nitto Billie Bars
> Shimano XTR M952 RD
> Shimano Deore DX FD
> Silver Triple Cranks. 44x34x24
> SunTour Power XC Power Ratchets
> Brooks B-17 Special
> Paul Love Levers
> Oury Grips
> Added SimsXNitto Obento Rack
> Wald 137
> 5th Season Squall Sack
>
> [image: 378813CC-FB63-412C-8A4F-CC94A83F5E88_1_105_c.jpeg]
>

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