Re: [RBW] Re: Trip Report: Death Valley February 2024

[Keith Paugh]

Sounds like an amazing trip!k.On Mar 3, 2024, at 8:33 PM, Diana H  wrote:Is there a way to post photo's? I tried to post just a single photo and kept getting error's that the message was too long. So here is a link to some photo's.https://photos.app.goo.gl/m6ymTWsmPXiiwr8P9 On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 8:19:20 PM UTC-8 Diana H wrote:Map: https://www.gaiagps.com/map/?loc=9.6/-116.8781/36.7032=GJ70zopvv3HDAIv6yQW94aTs=09fa1491-18a7-4735-83a2-eb164d4ba0ba

Total miles: ~165 miles Total Elevation Gain: ~14,400 ft  

Intro: 

The inspiration for this route came from the Bikepacking.com- Echo-Titus
Canyon, but Titus Canyon is currently closed to all traffic (including
bicycles), so we were looking for a way to extend our tip another day. We added
Rhyolite
Canyon from the Dirty Freehub.

 

Bicycles

Diana’s Bike - 2022 Platypus (50 cm, 38x24 crank, 650Bx43mm GravelKing
SK Knobby tires, Nitto Choco handlebar, and a 9-speed cassette)

Ran’s Bike – 2023 Kona Sutra (stock parts except the
tubeless 2.1 inch tires)

Mikes Bike – 2022 Salsa Cutthroat (stock parts, 2.2 inch tubeless
tires)

 

Day 1. Rhyolite RumbleTotal Miles: 46Average Speed 8.6mphWe drove from Reno to Spicer Ranch. Spicer Ranch is an amazing
campground and the owner runs it entirely on donations. Clean bathrooms, hot
showers, picnic tables, what else could you ask for? Please donate if you stay
here. Our plan today was to ride load-less and ease our way into
the trip. We arrived at Spicer Ranch a little after 10am and were biking by
10:45am. The first few miles went by quickly and we passed by several old mines.
There is endless gravel to ride out here and you could easily spend the day
exploring mine to mine. The road is pretty tough in places, but this is how it
will be the entire trip.The excitement of beginning our adventure (and being
unloaded) had us riding fast. We had great views riding toward Grapevine
Mountains on amazingly packed gravel. I would get a flat somewhere along here
but patched it up and moved on. The views would continue but the road would deteriorate into
more sand than gravel and had us pushing on a few occasions. Ran took a spill during
a moment of lapsed attention when his tire hit the side of a wash. Luckily it
was a slow fall and Ran would ride away with minor scratches. Later on in the
day we hit some washboards and I was going too fast and I got a pinch flat.
Patched that too, but the pinch flat happened right next to the valve and the
patch didn’t hold. Replaced the whole tube just before Rhyolite. This whole
time we saw nobody else on the trails.Rhyolite Ghost town is very interesting and they have a lot
of eccentric statues/sculptures. Worth a visit here if you find yourself in the
area. There were a lot of tourists here and it was little jarring after
spending the whole day by ourselves. 









The night caught us and to try to get back to camp quicker,
we abstained from the gravel and rode back on highway 95. This was very
unpleasant as it’s a 2-lane highway with 70 mph speed limits. Most everybody
passed us with as much room as they could spare, and we could always hop onto
the gravel sides if we needed. Once back at Spicer Ranch, we set up camp, ate
our dinners, and all fell into peaceful sleep.Day 2: Spicer Ranch à Chloride City à Furnace Creek à Echo CanyonTotal Mileage: 66 MilesMax Speed: 34.5mphAverage: 8.7mphThis was a physically hard day!  We wanted more gravel riding today, so we decided to take Chloride City Road to meet up with Death Valley Road. The road to Chloride City is all uphill, riding on somewhat loose gravel, and many parts so sandy some pushing was needed again. The scenery did not disappoint though! Mike found a license plate from 1932! We harbored thoughts of going to see Chloride City Ghost Town, but upon seeing that Chloride City was another 2000 feet of elevation gain and having just climbed a very difficult 1500 feet, we opted to skip it.We thought we were going to be golden once we got to the turnoff to go down, but the decent from Chloride City road is difficult. Thank goodness it was downhill because otherwise we would have had to push our bicycles 50% more. It was extremely sandy and only the cars with the fattest of tires would be safe driving this path.Once we hit Daylight Pass Road it was jarring to fly down pavement to Hells Gate Viewpoint (my max speed was almost 35 mph and I’m sure I pumped the breaks). We snapped a few photos then turned left and went down Beatty Cutoff Road. Again, we would fly down this road (dropping 2500 feet!) hitting Highway 190.Riding on Highway 190 wasn’t the greatest with cars zooming past us, but we got lucky and hit some construction. The construction turned the road into one way traffic with timed/predictable traffic. We would ride taking up a whole lane knowing nobody would come up behind us for a good 10 or so minutes. Then when we heard the pack of cars coming we would ride single file for a few minutes until they all passed and then take up 

[RBW] Re: Trip Report: Death Valley February 2024

[Diana H]

Is there a way to post photo's? I tried to post just a single photo and 
kept getting error's that the message was too long. So here is a link to 
some photo's.


https://photos.app.goo.gl/m6ymTWsmPXiiwr8P9 


On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 8:19:20 PM UTC-8 Diana H wrote:

> Map: 
> https://www.gaiagps.com/map/?loc=9.6/-116.8781/36.7032=GJ70zopvv3HDAIv6yQW94aTs=09fa1491-18a7-4735-83a2-eb164d4ba0ba
>
> Total miles: ~165 miles 
> Total Elevation Gain: ~14,400 ft 
>
> *Intro: *
>
> The inspiration for this route came from the Bikepacking.com- Echo-Titus 
> Canyon , but Titus 
> Canyon is currently closed to all traffic (including bicycles), so we were 
> looking for a way to extend our tip another day. We added Rhyolite Canyon 
>  from the Dirty 
> Freehub.
>
>  
>
> *Bicycles*
>
> Diana’s Bike - 2022 Platypus (50 cm, 38x24 crank, 650Bx43mm GravelKing SK 
> Knobby tires, Nitto Choco handlebar, and a 9-speed cassette)
>
> Ran’s Bike – 2023 Kona Sutra (stock parts except the tubeless 2.1 inch 
> tires)
>
> Mikes Bike – 2022 Salsa Cutthroat (stock parts, 2.2 inch tubeless tires)
>
>  
>
> *Day 1. Rhyolite Rumble*
> Total Miles: 46
> Average Speed 8.6mph
>
> We drove from Reno to Spicer Ranch. Spicer Ranch is an amazing campground 
> and the owner runs it entirely on donations. Clean bathrooms, hot showers, 
> picnic tables, what else could you ask for? Please donate if you stay here. 
>
> Our plan today was to ride load-less and ease our way into the trip. We 
> arrived at Spicer Ranch a little after 10am and were biking by 10:45am. The 
> first few miles went by quickly and we passed by several old mines. There 
> is endless gravel to ride out here and you could easily spend the day 
> exploring mine to mine. The road is pretty tough in places, but this is how 
> it will be the entire trip.
>
> The excitement of beginning our adventure (and being unloaded) had us 
> riding fast. We had great views riding toward Grapevine Mountains on 
> amazingly packed gravel. I would get a flat somewhere along here but 
> patched it up and moved on. 
>
> The views would continue but the road would deteriorate into more sand 
> than gravel and had us pushing on a few occasions. Ran took a spill during 
> a moment of lapsed attention when his tire hit the side of a wash. Luckily 
> it was a slow fall and Ran would ride away with minor scratches. Later on 
> in the day we hit some washboards and I was going too fast and I got a 
> pinch flat. Patched that too, but the pinch flat happened right next to the 
> valve and the patch didn’t hold. Replaced the whole tube just before 
> Rhyolite. This whole time we saw nobody else on the trails.
>
> Rhyolite Ghost town is very interesting and they have a lot of eccentric 
> statues/sculptures. Worth a visit here if you find yourself in the area. 
> There were a lot of tourists here and it was little jarring after spending 
> the whole day by ourselves. 
>
> The night caught us and to try to get back to camp quicker, we abstained 
> from the gravel and rode back on highway 95. This was very unpleasant as 
> it’s a 2-lane highway with 70 mph speed limits. Most everybody passed us 
> with as much room as they could spare, and we could always hop onto the 
> gravel sides if we needed. Once back at Spicer Ranch, we set up camp, ate 
> our dinners, and all fell into peaceful sleep.
>
>
> *Day 2: Spicer Ranch à Chloride City à Furnace Creek à Echo Canyon*
>
> Total Mileage: 66 Miles
> Max Speed: 34.5mph
> Average: 8.7mph
>
> This was a physically hard day!  We wanted more gravel riding today, so we 
> decided to take Chloride City Road to meet up with Death Valley Road. The 
> road to Chloride City is all uphill, riding on somewhat loose gravel, and 
> many parts so sandy some pushing was needed again. The scenery did not 
> disappoint though! Mike found a license plate from 1932! We harbored 
> thoughts of going to see Chloride City Ghost Town, but upon seeing that 
> Chloride City was another 2000 feet of elevation gain and having just 
> climbed a very difficult 1500 feet, we opted to skip it.
>
> We thought we were going to be golden once we got to the turnoff to go 
> down, but the decent from Chloride City road is difficult. Thank goodness 
> it was downhill because otherwise we would have had to push our bicycles 
> 50% more. It was extremely sandy and only the cars with the fattest of 
> tires would be safe driving this path.
>
> Once we hit Daylight Pass Road it was jarring to *fly* down pavement to 
> Hells Gate Viewpoint (my max speed was almost 35 mph and I’m sure I pumped 
> the breaks). We snapped a few photos then turned left and went down Beatty 
> Cutoff Road. Again, we would fly down this road (dropping 2500 feet!) 
> hitting Highway 190.
>
> Riding on Highway 190 wasn’t the greatest with cars zooming past us, but 
> we got lucky and hit some construction. The 

[RBW] Re: Trip Report: Death Valley February 2024

[Diana H]

If anybody know how to post photo's please let me know. I keep getting an 
error saying my message is too long, even if I try to post a single photo. 

On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 8:19:20 PM UTC-8 Diana H wrote:

> Map: 
> https://www.gaiagps.com/map/?loc=9.6/-116.8781/36.7032=GJ70zopvv3HDAIv6yQW94aTs=09fa1491-18a7-4735-83a2-eb164d4ba0ba
>
> Total miles: ~165 miles 
> Total Elevation Gain: ~14,400 ft 
>
> *Intro: *
>
> The inspiration for this route came from the Bikepacking.com- Echo-Titus 
> Canyon , but Titus 
> Canyon is currently closed to all traffic (including bicycles), so we were 
> looking for a way to extend our tip another day. We added Rhyolite Canyon 
>  from the Dirty 
> Freehub.
>
>  
>
> *Bicycles*
>
> Diana’s Bike - 2022 Platypus (50 cm, 38x24 crank, 650Bx43mm GravelKing SK 
> Knobby tires, Nitto Choco handlebar, and a 9-speed cassette)
>
> Ran’s Bike – 2023 Kona Sutra (stock parts except the tubeless 2.1 inch 
> tires)
>
> Mikes Bike – 2022 Salsa Cutthroat (stock parts, 2.2 inch tubeless tires)
>
>  
>
> *Day 1. Rhyolite Rumble*
> Total Miles: 46
> Average Speed 8.6mph
>
> We drove from Reno to Spicer Ranch. Spicer Ranch is an amazing campground 
> and the owner runs it entirely on donations. Clean bathrooms, hot showers, 
> picnic tables, what else could you ask for? Please donate if you stay here. 
>
> Our plan today was to ride load-less and ease our way into the trip. We 
> arrived at Spicer Ranch a little after 10am and were biking by 10:45am. The 
> first few miles went by quickly and we passed by several old mines. There 
> is endless gravel to ride out here and you could easily spend the day 
> exploring mine to mine. The road is pretty tough in places, but this is how 
> it will be the entire trip.
>
> The excitement of beginning our adventure (and being unloaded) had us 
> riding fast. We had great views riding toward Grapevine Mountains on 
> amazingly packed gravel. I would get a flat somewhere along here but 
> patched it up and moved on. 
>
> The views would continue but the road would deteriorate into more sand 
> than gravel and had us pushing on a few occasions. Ran took a spill during 
> a moment of lapsed attention when his tire hit the side of a wash. Luckily 
> it was a slow fall and Ran would ride away with minor scratches. Later on 
> in the day we hit some washboards and I was going too fast and I got a 
> pinch flat. Patched that too, but the pinch flat happened right next to the 
> valve and the patch didn’t hold. Replaced the whole tube just before 
> Rhyolite. This whole time we saw nobody else on the trails.
>
> Rhyolite Ghost town is very interesting and they have a lot of eccentric 
> statues/sculptures. Worth a visit here if you find yourself in the area. 
> There were a lot of tourists here and it was little jarring after spending 
> the whole day by ourselves. 
>
> The night caught us and to try to get back to camp quicker, we abstained 
> from the gravel and rode back on highway 95. This was very unpleasant as 
> it’s a 2-lane highway with 70 mph speed limits. Most everybody passed us 
> with as much room as they could spare, and we could always hop onto the 
> gravel sides if we needed. Once back at Spicer Ranch, we set up camp, ate 
> our dinners, and all fell into peaceful sleep.
>
>
> *Day 2: Spicer Ranch à Chloride City à Furnace Creek à Echo Canyon*
>
> Total Mileage: 66 Miles
> Max Speed: 34.5mph
> Average: 8.7mph
>
> This was a physically hard day!  We wanted more gravel riding today, so we 
> decided to take Chloride City Road to meet up with Death Valley Road. The 
> road to Chloride City is all uphill, riding on somewhat loose gravel, and 
> many parts so sandy some pushing was needed again. The scenery did not 
> disappoint though! Mike found a license plate from 1932! We harbored 
> thoughts of going to see Chloride City Ghost Town, but upon seeing that 
> Chloride City was another 2000 feet of elevation gain and having just 
> climbed a very difficult 1500 feet, we opted to skip it.
>
> We thought we were going to be golden once we got to the turnoff to go 
> down, but the decent from Chloride City road is difficult. Thank goodness 
> it was downhill because otherwise we would have had to push our bicycles 
> 50% more. It was extremely sandy and only the cars with the fattest of 
> tires would be safe driving this path.
>
> Once we hit Daylight Pass Road it was jarring to *fly* down pavement to 
> Hells Gate Viewpoint (my max speed was almost 35 mph and I’m sure I pumped 
> the breaks). We snapped a few photos then turned left and went down Beatty 
> Cutoff Road. Again, we would fly down this road (dropping 2500 feet!) 
> hitting Highway 190.
>
> Riding on Highway 190 wasn’t the greatest with cars zooming past us, but 
> we got lucky and hit some construction. The construction turned the road 
> into one way traffic with 

[RBW] Trip Report: Death Valley February 2024

[Diana H]

Map: 
https://www.gaiagps.com/map/?loc=9.6/-116.8781/36.7032=GJ70zopvv3HDAIv6yQW94aTs=09fa1491-18a7-4735-83a2-eb164d4ba0ba

Total miles: ~165 miles 
Total Elevation Gain: ~14,400 ft 

*Intro: *

The inspiration for this route came from the Bikepacking.com- Echo-Titus 
Canyon , but Titus 
Canyon is currently closed to all traffic (including bicycles), so we were 
looking for a way to extend our tip another day. We added Rhyolite Canyon 
 from the Dirty 
Freehub.

 

*Bicycles*

Diana’s Bike - 2022 Platypus (50 cm, 38x24 crank, 650Bx43mm GravelKing SK 
Knobby tires, Nitto Choco handlebar, and a 9-speed cassette)

Ran’s Bike – 2023 Kona Sutra (stock parts except the tubeless 2.1 inch 
tires)

Mikes Bike – 2022 Salsa Cutthroat (stock parts, 2.2 inch tubeless tires)

 

*Day 1. Rhyolite Rumble*
Total Miles: 46
Average Speed 8.6mph

We drove from Reno to Spicer Ranch. Spicer Ranch is an amazing campground 
and the owner runs it entirely on donations. Clean bathrooms, hot showers, 
picnic tables, what else could you ask for? Please donate if you stay here. 

Our plan today was to ride load-less and ease our way into the trip. We 
arrived at Spicer Ranch a little after 10am and were biking by 10:45am. The 
first few miles went by quickly and we passed by several old mines. There 
is endless gravel to ride out here and you could easily spend the day 
exploring mine to mine. The road is pretty tough in places, but this is how 
it will be the entire trip.

The excitement of beginning our adventure (and being unloaded) had us 
riding fast. We had great views riding toward Grapevine Mountains on 
amazingly packed gravel. I would get a flat somewhere along here but 
patched it up and moved on. 

The views would continue but the road would deteriorate into more sand than 
gravel and had us pushing on a few occasions. Ran took a spill during a 
moment of lapsed attention when his tire hit the side of a wash. Luckily it 
was a slow fall and Ran would ride away with minor scratches. Later on in 
the day we hit some washboards and I was going too fast and I got a pinch 
flat. Patched that too, but the pinch flat happened right next to the valve 
and the patch didn’t hold. Replaced the whole tube just before Rhyolite. 
This whole time we saw nobody else on the trails.

Rhyolite Ghost town is very interesting and they have a lot of eccentric 
statues/sculptures. Worth a visit here if you find yourself in the area. 
There were a lot of tourists here and it was little jarring after spending 
the whole day by ourselves. 

The night caught us and to try to get back to camp quicker, we abstained 
from the gravel and rode back on highway 95. This was very unpleasant as 
it’s a 2-lane highway with 70 mph speed limits. Most everybody passed us 
with as much room as they could spare, and we could always hop onto the 
gravel sides if we needed. Once back at Spicer Ranch, we set up camp, ate 
our dinners, and all fell into peaceful sleep.


*Day 2: Spicer Ranch à Chloride City à Furnace Creek à Echo Canyon*

Total Mileage: 66 Miles
Max Speed: 34.5mph
Average: 8.7mph

This was a physically hard day!  We wanted more gravel riding today, so we 
decided to take Chloride City Road to meet up with Death Valley Road. The 
road to Chloride City is all uphill, riding on somewhat loose gravel, and 
many parts so sandy some pushing was needed again. The scenery did not 
disappoint though! Mike found a license plate from 1932! We harbored 
thoughts of going to see Chloride City Ghost Town, but upon seeing that 
Chloride City was another 2000 feet of elevation gain and having just 
climbed a very difficult 1500 feet, we opted to skip it.

We thought we were going to be golden once we got to the turnoff to go 
down, but the decent from Chloride City road is difficult. Thank goodness 
it was downhill because otherwise we would have had to push our bicycles 
50% more. It was extremely sandy and only the cars with the fattest of 
tires would be safe driving this path.

Once we hit Daylight Pass Road it was jarring to *fly* down pavement to 
Hells Gate Viewpoint (my max speed was almost 35 mph and I’m sure I pumped 
the breaks). We snapped a few photos then turned left and went down Beatty 
Cutoff Road. Again, we would fly down this road (dropping 2500 feet!) 
hitting Highway 190.

Riding on Highway 190 wasn’t the greatest with cars zooming past us, but we 
got lucky and hit some construction. The construction turned the road into 
one way traffic with timed/predictable traffic. We would ride taking up a 
whole lane knowing nobody would come up behind us for a good 10 or so 
minutes. Then when we heard the pack of cars coming we would ride single 
file for a few minutes until they all passed and then take up the whole 
lane again.

We did this for a good portion of the way to Furnace Creek Visitor Center. 
We filled up all of our water (we each 

[RBW] WTT / WTB: your Nitto M12 Front Rack for my Nitto Campee 32F Mini Rack

[J J]

Hi all — I have a Nitto 32F (new in package) but I want/need a Nitto M12 to 
install using a Riv's cantilever brake bosses. 

If you have an M12 you're not using, please let me know if you're up for a 
trade for the 32F. 

If you have an M12 but would rather sell than trade it, please let me know 
your price. I would want all the hardware (stud bolts) that came with it.

Thanks!

Jim



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Re: [RBW] FS: 59cm Clem H "Hillibike" with Jones, Thomson, Shimano XT, etc.

[Jeremy Till]

Bike is sold! Thanks all. 

-Jeremy Till
Sacramento, CA

On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 5:28:28 AM UTC-8 brycel...@gmail.com wrote:

> messaged! beautiful bike
>
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 4:33:37 PM UTC-5 Tim Tetrault wrote:
>
>> Someone should grab this. A great deal with a solid setup. Good luck 
>> Jeremy. If I had the space I'd be all over it.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 1:27 PM Jeremy Till  wrote:
>>
>>> Bumping again
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 5:24:01 PM UTC-8 Jeremy Till wrote:
>>>
 Bump! New bike for the weekend?

 On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 12:45:33 PM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:

> Dang what a great deal, cheers fellow Sacramentan. 
> (If you part it out I am interested in the stem-Liz) 
>
> On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:39, Jeremy Till  wrote:
>
> I've got some exciting adventures on the horizon that would be best 
> suited to having a slightly different bike in my stable, so I've decided 
> to 
> part ways (amicably) with my first-gen (2016) 59cm Clem Smith Jr, in the 
> no-longer-available "H-type." This has been a great bike that I've really 
> enjoyed riding, but I don't do it enough and I'm excited to pass it on to 
> someone who will enjoy it.  
>
>
> Not to toot my own horn, but I was riding hillibikes before they were 
> cool, or at least before Grant had thought up the term. When I bought 
> this 
> in 2016, I was mountain biking a lot and built this up from the start as 
> a 
> rim brake mountain bike, using things like wide, tubeless compatible 
> rims, 
> strong V-brakes, and trigger shifters. When VO brought out their 31.8mm 
> quill stem in 2017 it got 710mm Jones Loop bars, which really tied the 
> whole thing together, and that has been the basic setup with relatively 
> minor modifications since then. 
>
> Overall it's in good shape, never been crashed (that I can remember), 
> and I've proactively replaced consumable parts before they've worn out. 
> There's a couple of places where the green paint has chipped exposing the 
> white primer below. Pictures are here . 
> The build: 
>
> Frame/fork: 59cm Clem H, Green. Geometry here 
> 
> Headset: FSA Duron
> Wheels: Prototype Rivendell "Silver" hubs, laced to Velocity 
> Cliffhangers (700c/29") with 36 double butted spokes each. Currently 
> running ~1 year old Specialized Fast Trak 2.2" tires with tubes. Rims are 
> tubeless compatible, but the rim tape is the original from when I built 
> it 
> up in 2016 so it could probably use a refresh if you are going to try to 
> run them tubeless. 
> Handlebars: Jones 710mm Loop H-Bar, butted aluminum, Jones Kraton 
> grips 
> Stem: Velo-Orange Removable Faceplate Quill Stem, 90mm
> Seatpost: Thomson Elite (zero setback)
> Saddle: Will come with a WTB Pure (pictured with WTB Deva), or will 
> sell sans saddle
> Brake Levers: Shimano Deore "touring" (BL-T611)
> Brakes: Shimano XT v-brakes
> Shifter: Shimano Sora 9spd Rapidfire w/ two-way release
> Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT 9spd "Shadow" (RD-M772)
> (No front shifter or derailleur)
> Cranks: CODA-Branded Sugino 94/58mm BCD, 175mm, square taper w/ 36-22 
> Dimension 9spd alloy chainrings
> Bottom Bracket: sealed cartridge unit, 107mm, I think it's a Tange?
> Pedals: Shimano Saint platform pedals
> Cassette: Shimano XT 9spd, 11-34
> Chain: SRAM PC 991
>
> Sale does not include the King Iris bottle cages pictured. 
>
> Craigslist price is $1,600, happy to sell to a list member for $1,400. 
> I'm in Sacramento, CA and would prefer a local sale, but if you're 
> elsewhere and are willing to pay for boxing and shipping, let me know. 
>
> -Jeremy Till
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Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

[aeroperf]

A Sam with 42mm tires at 55 psi.  Pure bliss on pavement.

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[RBW] Re: FS; 48cm 2012 Sam Hillborne

[Tommy Love]

I'm not quite sure how this happened, but the link to the photos in my 
original are not of my bike.  I usually use dropbox but linked a google 
drive link and most likely this was user error, sorry for the confusion. 
 Proper link below.
Tommy
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Wneod4wV75VoE_vRXw4Fqq0TSJKWelG-?usp=share_link


On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 10:59:04 AM UTC-8 Tommy Love wrote:

> This Sam Hillborne is in incredible shape for it's age.  Everything is in 
> perfect working condition and cosmetically, it is really nice.  Frame is a 
> 9 outta 10 (have added photos of the only meaningful blems on the frame), 
> all components in great shape, ready to ride.  Geo attached in photos, but 
> quickly;
> *C-T* = 19"
> *C-C* = 18.5"
> *Top tube* = 21.5"
> *Stand over height* = 29.5"
>
> $1800 complete, buyer pays for shipping.  Located in Southern CA
> Not preferred, but selling frameset only could also be a discussion.
> Lastly, a trade could be an option as well.  Size 53,54 Rivendell only. 
>  Atlantis or older fun rivbike are most interesting to me.
>
> *2012 Sam Hillborne Serial M1220577 Made in Taiwan*
> - Velocity Synergy 650b wheels laced to Velocity hubs, with Maxy Fasty 
> 32mm tires, all in great shape.  Tires have normal wear, but good condition 
> and plenty of life left
> - Nitto Dirt drop stem with stem mounted shifters
> - Modolo Q Race drop bars made in Italy, shellac'd & twined.  
> - Tektro RL-720 brake levers, joined to TRP hood levers
> - Tektro R559 capliper brakes
> - Elite bottle cages
> - Velo Orange seat post
> - Brooks Cambium C17 saddle
> - Shimano Deore LX crankset
> - Shimano Deore XT front and rear derailer
> - MKS Sylvan pedals
>
> *PICTURES OF BIKE HERE*
>
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Lcrtaogb4u8tOARV8RzyX6b1gtR0KOfp?usp=share_link
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[RBW] Re: Hub recommendations for Velocity Cliffhangers

[Corwin Zechar]

I'll second the recommendation of White Industries hubs. Phil Wood is also 
a great option if you want your hubs to last forever.

Regards,

Corwin
On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 3:26:15 PM UTC-8 Josh C wrote:

> I'd recommend a set of white industries hubs if you are looking for 
> something more high-end. Smoothest hubs I've seen. 
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 6:04:12 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> I second Deore LX! I had those front & rear until I laced up a front 
>> wheel with a Kasai FS dynamo hub.
>>
>> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 2:11:58 PM UTC-8 aeroperf wrote:
>>
>>> I like the Deore LX trekking equipment.  A rear hub would be FH-T670.
>>> Quiet and bulletproof.  I’ve laced them to Velocity Atlas and Velocity 
>>> Dyads.
>>> For a front hub, I tend to use Shimano 105s because they are reliable 
>>> and reasonably cheap.
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Best Rivendell for pavement riding

[Corwin Zechar]

Patrick -

You forgot the Ram!

Regards,

Corwni
On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 2:23:07 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Roadeo, Roadini, Sam, Homer, and the Nitto Noodle?
>
> FWIW, after having used any number of drop bars, my favorite is the Maes 
> Parallel, available from Rene Herse but not from Rivendell. (Rivendell 
> ought to offer it!)
>
> Patrick Moore, present and former owner of 5 Rivendell drop bar 
> road/roady-ish bikes
>
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 11:56 AM Chuck Blessing  wrote:
>
>> I really like the Rivendell approach to bikes and bike technology with 
>> the idea of a more upright posture and a long wheelbase for long rides at a 
>> comfortable pace, but it seems like the models all lean heavily to what 
>> they call "country bikes."  I like to ride from my house, and that means 
>> riding almost exclusively on smooth (mostly) pavement. Can anyone suggest 
>> which models are better suited for road riding? Reading and comparing the 
>> descriptions, it seems that the Homer might be a good choice, or possibly 
>> the Appaloosa or Atlantis? Or the new Charlie Gallop, though I haven't 
>> heard much about how it is supposed to ride? I tried a Roadini (which I 
>> recently listed here and sold), but I think it was too big for me. I never 
>> felt comfortable on it. Maybe I just needed it in the right size. 
>>
>> I would like the bike to work well with drop bars because of the multiple 
>> hand positions and they're just what I'm used to. I tried a bike with swept 
>> bars recently, but found I wasn't comfortable on longer rides. And when 
>> riding on streets with minimal shoulder width, I felt like I was going to 
>> catch the end of them on mailboxes or other obstacles. Maybe there's a 
>> handlebar in Rivendell's catalog that works well for road riding?
>>
>> I'd appreciate any comments, especially if someone does this type of 
>> riding and has tried several of these models. Thanks.
>>
>> Chuck
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist, etc 2024

[Matthew Williams]

Roadini
57cm
2000
Emeryville, CA

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/emeryville-rivendell-leo-roadini/7720529232.html

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[RBW] Re: Garage Sale Part 2/2 - Nitto, Wheels, Paul, Dura-Ace, Riv Clothing, & More!

[Armand Kizirian]

Final Sunday bump before these go onto feeBay!

On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 5:09:30 PM UTC-8 Armand Kizirian wrote:

> Bump! Lots of goods still for sale. 
>
> Riv Hat is sold. 
>
> On Sunday, February 25, 2024 at 4:34:14 PM UTC-8 Armand Kizirian wrote:
>
>> Hey everyone, 
>>
>> *Some final goods to clear from the last bit from my recent bike builds. 
>> Prices include shipping unless otherwise noted. Light discounts for 
>> multiple purchases. Check all the photos HERE 
>> !
>>  
>> Buy my stuff! Make my Platypus complete!*
>>
>>- Platypus Complete 700c/29er wheels! I'm very impressed by this 
>>handsome wheelset. Silky smooth hubs, fun black/silver alternating spoke 
>>nipples, bulletproof Alex DM24 rims, WITH excellent Soma Shikoro 700x48 
>>tires! I'll throw in the quick release skewers too. How's $400 + cheapest 
>>shipping via pirateship sound?
>>   - Soma Shikoro tires available separately if you really want them 
>>   - Paul Moon Units - Purple - Used for about 30 miles, light marks 
>>on edges of backside nut. $45 
>>- Paul Love Levers - Compact - Black - new in box (long pull) - $150 
>>- NOS Dura-Ace FD-7703 Triple front derailleur, 28.6 clamp - Gorgeous 
>>and new! $120 
>>- Nitto Tallux Stem - 25.4 clamp - 90mm - Brand new, never touched a 
>>bike - $80 
>>- Maxxis 26 x 2.3” DTH Tires - Less than 25 miles - Ultra rare light 
>>skin tanwall that has been out of production for several years - 
>>lightweight, smooth rolling, and great looking - $75 pair
>>- Ultradynamico Cava race tires - 27.5 x 2.2?” - 100% new - Typically 
>>$180+ to your door - $160 
>>- FSA Duron X 1" threaded Headset - came stock on my Platypus - 
>>visible parts look new, non-visible parts are slightly chewed from 
>> removal, 
>>headset spacers included - $35 
>>- Ornot Mini handlebar bag + seat bag - fun “nordic” color - new w/ 
>>tags - $60
>>- Brooks Dalston Medium lime-olive backpack - new in bag and very 
>>stylish/handsome/well-made - costs $207 new - $100 
>>- Pletscher Edge Kickstand - signs of use, hard to find - $25 
>>
>>
>> *With purchase of any other item: *
>>
>>- Gran Compe roller straddle cable hangars - new pair - $20
>>- Nitto 26.0-25.4 shim - $10 
>>- Vintage middleburn crank extractor caps/bolts - $10
>>
>> *Clothing: *
>>
>>- Men's Search and state s1-j waterproof cycling jacket made in new 
>>york. Medium. Like new, only a few rides on it. Incredible jacket with 
>> the 
>>Schoeller c-change fabric. $285 new. The most breathable waterproof 
>> jacket 
>>I've ever experienced by far. Don't use it enough. $165
>>- Rivendell Royal & gold hat - New, sold out, no button top - $45 
>>- Rivendell Grey Long Sleeve Shirt - Reject trends and progress - 
>>size medium, worn once, still has new shirt scent - $40 
>>- Ornot tech shirts - size medium (fits like a small) dark grey and 
>>“mars” red - very unique fabric - $40 for 2 
>>- Mission Workshop Torre Merino Wool Hoodie Black - size medium - 
>>Midweight 100% merino wool sweater, amazing piece in excellent condition 
>>but a very trim fit, would recommend it if you are a small/extra small 
>>looking for a regular/loose fit or are a medium but want an on-the-body 
>> fit 
>>- $100 
>>
>> *Check all the photos HERE 
>> !*
>>  
>>
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[RBW] Re: Rim life - shimano vs. other brake pads?

[Will Boericke]

I only ever use Kool Stop Salmon or SwissStop BXP.  No other pad is worth 
my time.  I fully realize my post is not useful to you at all :)

Will

On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 4:51:29 AM UTC-5 chintan jadwani wrote:

> I was looking for reviews on a specific rim (Sun CR18) and ended up on a 
> Thorn forum where users kept mentioning that they were experiencing shorter 
> rim life as Shimano brake pads were eating up the brake surface much faster 
> - and switching brake pads made a significant difference.
>
> I'm curious if any of your experiences have been similar?
>
> chintan
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[RBW] Re: Hub recommendations for Velocity Cliffhangers

[Will Boericke]

As Bill said, depends on whether it's front or rear.  A front hub is a tube 
with sealed bearings, so while Paul hubs look lovely and I like to support 
MUSA products, it's hard for me to justify the price there.  Any old sealed 
bearing hub is pretty much as good as any other, bearings being equal.  I 
like DT swiss because the parts will always be there.  I've used a number 
of Bitex hubsets, and if silver and simple is what you're looking for, 
that's what I'd buy.  See Analog or Bikehubstore (the owner, Brandon, is 
great).

Will

On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 10:14:12 AM UTC-5 chintan jadwani wrote:

> Another recommendation to confuse you :)
>
> https://analogcycles.com/products/bitex-touring-hubs
>
> On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 8:14:15 PM UTC+5:30 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> The OP is looking for "a hub" for their Appaloosa.  The Appaloosa takes a 
>> 10x135mm rear hub and a 9x100 front hub.  The OP is leaning towards Paul 
>> and does not need a dynamo, which indicates they are looking for a FRONT 
>> hub.  Paul makes two 9x100 Front Hubs that would both be lovely on an 
>> Appaloosa:
>>
>>
>> https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/hubs/front-hubs/high-flange-front/
>> https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/hubs/front-hubs/fhub/
>>
>> I think the Paul is a terrific front hub, and it's fun that every Paul 
>> product comes with a Paul Sticker, and you get to put a Paul Sticker on 
>> your bike now that you are running Paul bling.  If there was anybody who 
>> wanted the functional equivalent of a Paul front hub for a lot less money 
>> than a Paul front hub, I'd point them at the Surly Ultra New, which comes 
>> with bolts, but you can just remove the bolts and use it as a QR hub with a 
>> skewer if you like.  No issues,  
>>
>> Unless I am mis-reading the OP, all REAR hub recommendations are 
>> un-necessary.  If the OP is looking at a Paul REAR hub, that means we're 
>> talking about a single-speed Appaloosa, which would be really interesting, 
>> or maybe even a 3x1 Appa, which would be fun.  :)
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 10:55:35 AM UTC-8 iwri...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'd appreciate some recommendations for a new hub for my Appaloosa. I 
>>> don't backpack, so a dynamo is unnecessary. I'm leaning towards a Paul hub 
>>> because of its minimalist aesthetic, but if there's a hub you all love, 
>>> please let me know! Thanks.
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Susie Lugged Vs. Susie Fillet Brazed

[Richard Rose]

As a Gus owner I cannot believe there would be any noticeable difference. I think the bottom bracket difference is 5mm? Riv says no difference & they also said there was no ride difference between the original Gus/Susie. Splitting hairs?Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 2, 2024, at 1:56 PM, Tommy Love  wrote:Has anyone here who already owns a fillet brazed Susie Longbolts test ride the new lugged Susie Longbolts?  Curious if the ride is noticeably different with the lower BB.  Not saying I'm gonna buy one, but I do like the colors and the lug detail.  Here's my Susie, cruising it like a 1936 Harley Knucklehead.Tommy Socal



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[RBW] Anyone have a spare 26 and 42t chainring? 110/74

[Eliot B]

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[RBW] FS: 700c Wheels

[Drurad (Sacramento)]

Not mine.  But from the same gentleman I bought my wife's Platypus from.  
If the wheels are anything like the frame, then they are near new condition.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/bop/d/santa-cruz-velocity-built-700c-alex/7722295649.html

-Andrew

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Re: [RBW] Winter Riding in Alberta

[Mack Penner]

I've updated this series with a tale of winter: 
https://youtu.be/kJDmtL1OyBk?si=4uUgYg0kLhPasb06
Happy Sunday,
Mack


On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 11:52:03 AM UTC-6 Mack Penner wrote:

> Thanks, Stephen! Glad to hear it :)
> Mack 
>
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 8:56:01 PM UTC-6 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
>> These are so good Mack, missed the first one back in august. Makes me 
>> want to go ride my bike.
>>
>> -stephen
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 7:15:22 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>
>>> For those inclined to follow along, here's my "tale of fall 
>>> ," which in southern 
>>> alberta is now all but over, snow on the ground and still falling, 
>>> something like -10 degrees Celsius today. If you're hardcore, you might 
>>> also consider this semi-absurd overnighter 
>>>  I took my poor 
>>> brother on at the end of September. 
>>> Mack
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 7:20:18 PM UTC-6 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>>
 Great looking rides. Been a while since I explored that part of the 
 world. 

 On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 6:40:53 PM UTC-4 Andrew Letton wrote:

> Love it!  Especially the butterfly cameo!
> cheers from Oz,
> Andrew
>
> On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 01:36:32 AM GMT+10, Mack Penner <
> penne...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Hi people,
> I have been on a small eric rohmer kick this year, and when I started 
> watching the tales of the four seasons it occurred to me that it would be 
> fun to document a week of riding in every season. I had the idea in the 
> summer, so first up is my tale of the summer. Nothin' fancy, I just 
> perched 
> my phone on my water bottle like a hundred times during my daily rides in 
> the week from 14-18 August. I was gonna put it to music, but then I 
> thought 
> that if the goal is to document seasonal riding vibes the sounds that the 
> season makes are important! Filmed in southern alberta on my atlantis, my 
> joe, my homer, and finally my quickbeam. 
> Vid's here . Hope you 
> find it fun!
> Enjoy the rest of August,
> Mack 
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[RBW] Re: Hub recommendations for Velocity Cliffhangers

[chintan jadwani]

Another recommendation to confuse you :)

https://analogcycles.com/products/bitex-touring-hubs

On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 8:14:15 PM UTC+5:30 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The OP is looking for "a hub" for their Appaloosa.  The Appaloosa takes a 
> 10x135mm rear hub and a 9x100 front hub.  The OP is leaning towards Paul 
> and does not need a dynamo, which indicates they are looking for a FRONT 
> hub.  Paul makes two 9x100 Front Hubs that would both be lovely on an 
> Appaloosa:
>
> https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/hubs/front-hubs/high-flange-front/
> https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/hubs/front-hubs/fhub/
>
> I think the Paul is a terrific front hub, and it's fun that every Paul 
> product comes with a Paul Sticker, and you get to put a Paul Sticker on 
> your bike now that you are running Paul bling.  If there was anybody who 
> wanted the functional equivalent of a Paul front hub for a lot less money 
> than a Paul front hub, I'd point them at the Surly Ultra New, which comes 
> with bolts, but you can just remove the bolts and use it as a QR hub with a 
> skewer if you like.  No issues,  
>
> Unless I am mis-reading the OP, all REAR hub recommendations are 
> un-necessary.  If the OP is looking at a Paul REAR hub, that means we're 
> talking about a single-speed Appaloosa, which would be really interesting, 
> or maybe even a 3x1 Appa, which would be fun.  :)
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 10:55:35 AM UTC-8 iwri...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'd appreciate some recommendations for a new hub for my Appaloosa. I 
>> don't backpack, so a dynamo is unnecessary. I'm leaning towards a Paul hub 
>> because of its minimalist aesthetic, but if there's a hub you all love, 
>> please let me know! Thanks.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Hub recommendations for Velocity Cliffhangers

[Bill Lindsay]

The OP is looking for "a hub" for their Appaloosa.  The Appaloosa takes a 
10x135mm rear hub and a 9x100 front hub.  The OP is leaning towards Paul 
and does not need a dynamo, which indicates they are looking for a FRONT 
hub.  Paul makes two 9x100 Front Hubs that would both be lovely on an 
Appaloosa:

https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/hubs/front-hubs/high-flange-front/
https://www.paulcomp.com/shop/components/hubs/front-hubs/fhub/

I think the Paul is a terrific front hub, and it's fun that every Paul 
product comes with a Paul Sticker, and you get to put a Paul Sticker on 
your bike now that you are running Paul bling.  If there was anybody who 
wanted the functional equivalent of a Paul front hub for a lot less money 
than a Paul front hub, I'd point them at the Surly Ultra New, which comes 
with bolts, but you can just remove the bolts and use it as a QR hub with a 
skewer if you like.  No issues,  

Unless I am mis-reading the OP, all REAR hub recommendations are 
un-necessary.  If the OP is looking at a Paul REAR hub, that means we're 
talking about a single-speed Appaloosa, which would be really interesting, 
or maybe even a 3x1 Appa, which would be fun.  :)

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 10:55:35 AM UTC-8 iwri...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'd appreciate some recommendations for a new hub for my Appaloosa. I 
> don't backpack, so a dynamo is unnecessary. I'm leaning towards a Paul hub 
> because of its minimalist aesthetic, but if there's a hub you all love, 
> please let me know! Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Hub recommendations for Velocity Cliffhangers

[Garth]

With cassette hubs to me it depends on how much noise one can finds 
"acceptable" (hah hah)  from the inherent design fof the ratcheting 
mechanism. 

The only real quiet ones I've heard are the Shimano's that have the self 
enclosed thread-in freehub bodies and the ratchetless Onyx. You can find 
recordings of  most any brand on YT and they're all screamers compared to 
the above. Sorry, even the White hubs. 
On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 9:05:12 AM UTC-5 josh.yo...@gmail.com wrote:

> A T11 or an MI5 would be a great choice. They sure are pretty to look at 
> and they roll so smooth. 
>
> Josh
> Seattle, WA
>
> On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 2:37:23 AM UTC-8 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> If you want silver (as in unpainted metal) hubs, the White Industries MI5 
>> hubs are nice.
>>
>> Nick Payne
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Best Rivendell for pavement riding

[Garth]

Chuck, You experience with the Roadini speaks only to having the correct 
size. 

For pure smooth road riding in my opinion having larger tires than say 
32-35mm and chainstays longer than what one can use a stock 114-116 link 
chain on(about 47cm), is overkill in that there isn't anything to gain from 
a heavier frame and wider tires. 

One's "comfort" largely comes from one's "comfortability" in their 
positioning. 

 
On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 10:25:37 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> My impression is you've never ridden a Riv (not a criticism, just noting) 
> and will be happy to learn they're all great on pavement. Drop bars limit 
> how long a toptube you can run so you're probably right that a Homer is a 
> good bet (see, also: Roadini, Hillborne). But it's also possible to size 
> down a bit and run a short stem (Analog Cycled style) to get the bars close 
> enough on most of their frames. 
>
> The nifty thing about all Rivs is they glide great on smooth pavement 
> while having a good margin for the gnarlier sections. If you gravitate 
> towards the burlier ones like Atlantis and Appaloosa - even Clem L if you 
> can get the reach you need - you can load 'em up with all your stuff! 
>
> Joe "all my bikes become shopping bikes" Bernard 
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 10:56:38 AM UTC-8 cfic...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I really like the Rivendell approach to bikes and bike technology with 
>> the idea of a more upright posture and a long wheelbase for long rides at a 
>> comfortable pace, but it seems like the models all lean heavily to what 
>> they call "country bikes."  I like to ride from my house, and that means 
>> riding almost exclusively on smooth (mostly) pavement. Can anyone suggest 
>> which models are better suited for road riding? Reading and comparing the 
>> descriptions, it seems that the Homer might be a good choice, or possibly 
>> the Appaloosa or Atlantis? Or the new Charlie Gallop, though I haven't 
>> heard much about how it is supposed to ride? I tried a Roadini (which I 
>> recently listed here and sold), but I think it was too big for me. I never 
>> felt comfortable on it. Maybe I just needed it in the right size. 
>>
>> I would like the bike to work well with drop bars because of the multiple 
>> hand positions and they're just what I'm used to. I tried a bike with swept 
>> bars recently, but found I wasn't comfortable on longer rides. And when 
>> riding on streets with minimal shoulder width, I felt like I was going to 
>> catch the end of them on mailboxes or other obstacles. Maybe there's a 
>> handlebar in Rivendell's catalog that works well for road riding?
>>
>> I'd appreciate any comments, especially if someone does this type of 
>> riding and has tried several of these models. Thanks.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Best Rivendell for pavement riding

[J S]

I ride exclusively on pavement and of the current models the Sam Hillborne 
does it wonderfully. 

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 1:56:38 PM UTC-5 cfic...@gmail.com wrote:

> I really like the Rivendell approach to bikes and bike technology with the 
> idea of a more upright posture and a long wheelbase for long rides at a 
> comfortable pace, but it seems like the models all lean heavily to what 
> they call "country bikes."  I like to ride from my house, and that means 
> riding almost exclusively on smooth (mostly) pavement. Can anyone suggest 
> which models are better suited for road riding? Reading and comparing the 
> descriptions, it seems that the Homer might be a good choice, or possibly 
> the Appaloosa or Atlantis? Or the new Charlie Gallop, though I haven't 
> heard much about how it is supposed to ride? I tried a Roadini (which I 
> recently listed here and sold), but I think it was too big for me. I never 
> felt comfortable on it. Maybe I just needed it in the right size. 
>
> I would like the bike to work well with drop bars because of the multiple 
> hand positions and they're just what I'm used to. I tried a bike with swept 
> bars recently, but found I wasn't comfortable on longer rides. And when 
> riding on streets with minimal shoulder width, I felt like I was going to 
> catch the end of them on mailboxes or other obstacles. Maybe there's a 
> handlebar in Rivendell's catalog that works well for road riding?
>
> I'd appreciate any comments, especially if someone does this type of 
> riding and has tried several of these models. Thanks.
>
> Chuck
>

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[RBW] Re: Hub recommendations for Velocity Cliffhangers

[Josh (BertoBerg)]

A T11 or an MI5 would be a great choice. They sure are pretty to look at 
and they roll so smooth. 

Josh
Seattle, WA

On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 2:37:23 AM UTC-8 Nick Payne wrote:

> If you want silver (as in unpainted metal) hubs, the White Industries MI5 
> hubs are nice.
>
> Nick Payne
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Re: [RBW] Philadelphia Bike Expo March 16 - 17

[Bryce Lackey]

For anyone extra tall coming in from out of town, I have a 62cm Sam listed 
as a frameset w crank and seat post on CL here in Philly. If you want to 
make a deal, I am open to offers and have all the fixings for a complete 
build. I'll be around doing some of the local rides as well as the Keystone 
afterparty. 

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 1:58:21 PM UTC-5 benjamin@gmail.com wrote:

> I’ll see you all there! I’ve got to work Saturday but I’ll make it out to 
> the Expo on Sunday and Keystone’s partay Saturday night. My three-year-old 
> has developed a distinct preference for the Surly Cross Check over the 
> Atlantis and Clem but whatever the case we’ll roll up on two wheels. 
>
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 5:22 PM Roberta  wrote:
>
>> https://phillybikeexpo.com/
>>
>> Lots of things to do--the expo, rides, parties, coffee and meet ups.
>>
>> I'm going.  Who else?  I'm within walking distance to the expo (but will 
>> be riding my Betty Foy there, because, well..., I should ride).  If anyone 
>> needs any local assistance, please reach out via DM.  
>>
>> There is free bike valet parking by Neighborhood Bike works, and 
>> donations accepted.  It's a great way to fund the community bike center.
>>
>> I hope to meet or see again lots of us happy Riv riders.
>>
>> Roberta
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Re: [RBW] FS: 59cm Clem H "Hillibike" with Jones, Thomson, Shimano XT, etc.

[Bryce Lackey]

messaged! beautiful bike


On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 4:33:37 PM UTC-5 Tim Tetrault wrote:

> Someone should grab this. A great deal with a solid setup. Good luck 
> Jeremy. If I had the space I'd be all over it.
>
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2024 at 1:27 PM Jeremy Till  wrote:
>
>> Bumping again
>>
>> On Friday, February 23, 2024 at 5:24:01 PM UTC-8 Jeremy Till wrote:
>>
>>> Bump! New bike for the weekend?
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 12:45:33 PM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:
>>>
 Dang what a great deal, cheers fellow Sacramentan. 
 (If you part it out I am interested in the stem-Liz) 

 On Feb 17, 2024, at 12:39, Jeremy Till  wrote:

 I've got some exciting adventures on the horizon that would be best 
 suited to having a slightly different bike in my stable, so I've decided 
 to 
 part ways (amicably) with my first-gen (2016) 59cm Clem Smith Jr, in the 
 no-longer-available "H-type." This has been a great bike that I've really 
 enjoyed riding, but I don't do it enough and I'm excited to pass it on to 
 someone who will enjoy it.  


 Not to toot my own horn, but I was riding hillibikes before they were 
 cool, or at least before Grant had thought up the term. When I bought this 
 in 2016, I was mountain biking a lot and built this up from the start as a 
 rim brake mountain bike, using things like wide, tubeless compatible rims, 
 strong V-brakes, and trigger shifters. When VO brought out their 31.8mm 
 quill stem in 2017 it got 710mm Jones Loop bars, which really tied the 
 whole thing together, and that has been the basic setup with relatively 
 minor modifications since then. 

 Overall it's in good shape, never been crashed (that I can remember), 
 and I've proactively replaced consumable parts before they've worn out. 
 There's a couple of places where the green paint has chipped exposing the 
 white primer below. Pictures are here . 
 The build: 

 Frame/fork: 59cm Clem H, Green. Geometry here 
 
 Headset: FSA Duron
 Wheels: Prototype Rivendell "Silver" hubs, laced to Velocity 
 Cliffhangers (700c/29") with 36 double butted spokes each. Currently 
 running ~1 year old Specialized Fast Trak 2.2" tires with tubes. Rims are 
 tubeless compatible, but the rim tape is the original from when I built it 
 up in 2016 so it could probably use a refresh if you are going to try to 
 run them tubeless. 
 Handlebars: Jones 710mm Loop H-Bar, butted aluminum, Jones Kraton grips 
 Stem: Velo-Orange Removable Faceplate Quill Stem, 90mm
 Seatpost: Thomson Elite (zero setback)
 Saddle: Will come with a WTB Pure (pictured with WTB Deva), or will 
 sell sans saddle
 Brake Levers: Shimano Deore "touring" (BL-T611)
 Brakes: Shimano XT v-brakes
 Shifter: Shimano Sora 9spd Rapidfire w/ two-way release
 Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT 9spd "Shadow" (RD-M772)
 (No front shifter or derailleur)
 Cranks: CODA-Branded Sugino 94/58mm BCD, 175mm, square taper w/ 36-22 
 Dimension 9spd alloy chainrings
 Bottom Bracket: sealed cartridge unit, 107mm, I think it's a Tange?
 Pedals: Shimano Saint platform pedals
 Cassette: Shimano XT 9spd, 11-34
 Chain: SRAM PC 991

 Sale does not include the King Iris bottle cages pictured. 

 Craigslist price is $1,600, happy to sell to a list member for $1,400. 
 I'm in Sacramento, CA and would prefer a local sale, but if you're 
 elsewhere and are willing to pay for boxing and shipping, let me know. 

 -Jeremy Till

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[RBW] Re: Hub recommendations for Velocity Cliffhangers

[Nick Payne]

If you want silver (as in unpainted metal) hubs, the White Industries MI5 
hubs are nice.

Nick Payne

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[RBW] Rim life - shimano vs. other brake pads?

[chintan jadwani]

I was looking for reviews on a specific rim (Sun CR18) and ended up on a 
Thorn forum where users kept mentioning that they were experiencing shorter 
rim life as Shimano brake pads were eating up the brake surface much faster 
- and switching brake pads made a significant difference.

I'm curious if any of your experiences have been similar?

chintan

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