[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Issues with my Old Clem

[Vincent Tamer]

Yes it is a 9. I've wanted to switch to Silver Thumbies so that might just 
be the next upgrade. Good point about the derailleur too, that's something 
to consider.

On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 6:11:32 PM UTC-7 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> Hi Vincent,
>
> That Clem is beautiful, but your shifting issue sounds frustrating. Are 
> you running a 9-speed cassette in the back? I had the indexing Sunrace 
> thumbie on my Rivendell and performance felt just ok. My vintage Suntour 
> thumb shifters from 1983 were better, and now I have a Riv silver thumbie 
> on and it's also better. I suggest you buy one Riv silver thumbie and try 
> that out. I clearly remember the PDF saying the stock shifters clicked but 
> did not index. 
>
> Also, consider that the Altus rear derailleur is a $13 part. Maybe it's 
> just not up for your rough rides on the train tracks? I have a silver 
> thumbie with the SRAM GX 10 speed rear derailleur shifting a 9-speed 
> cassette, and it works perfectly. I highly recommend it. It has a clutch on 
> it so you can forget about chain slap and dropped chains. It's available 
> for nice prices because the trend in mountain bikes is now 12 speeds. (A 
> matching 10 speed click shifter is also available for cheap, but I haven't 
> tried it.)
>
> I also have a narrow-wide chainring on the front. Perhaps you should 
> consider one. How often are you using the biggest chainring? For me it's 
> never (I took it off) because live in a city and commute so I rarely get up 
> to speed for longer than 4 minutes. Are you regularly cruising above 15 
> MPH? If not, go lower with your gearing. Wolf-Tooth and Stridsland both 
> have excellent narrow-wide chainrings that will fit your cranks. Fewer 
> moving parts is a nice thing for your bike. 
>
> I hope this helps. Happy riding. 
>
> Michael 
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 11:40:52 PM UTC-4 Vincent Tamer wrote:
>
>> I have an on going issue with my friction shifting setup on my 2016 
>> complete Clem.
>>
>> I believe this will be my third cassette replacement now. Each time the 
>> two smallest cogs are damaged/stripped for some reason, so that when I 
>> pedal there is some crunching & ghost shifting. I cannot pedal with full 
>> force on the first two gears.
>>
>> I’ve had issues with this since day one and I have a feeling it is due to 
>> the 2016 complete clem’s shifting setup even though I’ve had it adjusted 
>> and have explained to two different bike technicians.
>>
>> The shifter setup is odd, Riv even commented on how it was a little 
>> strange in the Clem intro Pdf that was floating around for the longest time 
>> (cannot find it now). I'm hoping someone knows what I'm talking about!
>>
>> These suntour shifters are set up in a reverse position and that they 
>> have some kind of ratcheting mech in them. The clicks don’t always coincide 
>> with a shift and maybe that has created some bad friction shifting form on 
>> my part. Outside of that I’m at a loss for why I am having issues with 
>> stripped cogs. 
>>
>> I’m considering switching to an indexed set up even though I don’t want 
>> to but before I do, does any one have any wisdom they can shed on this 
>> situation? Thank you!
>>
>> Pics are attached, of the whole bike (for fun) and of the shifter. I'll 
>> grab some shots of the gears as well when I can.[image: 
>> DSCF7718_sml.jpg][image: 
>> shifter.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting Issues with my Old Clem

[Vincent Tamer]

Thank you all for the advice!

On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 5:54:40 AM UTC-7 steve...@gmail.com wrote:

> Vincent, Garth's comments regarding cross chaining sure do seem like a 
> likely explanation for the accelerated wear on the outer two cogs.  Looking 
> at your picture of the bike, it appears the cranks are mounted on a fairly 
> narrow bottom bracket spindle. If the spindle is narrow enough to move your 
> chain line inboard - further away from the smaller cogs on the rear end - 
> that would likely accelerate wear on those cogs. Frequent cross chaining 
> from the inner chain ring to those smaller cogs would amplify the effect. 
> Might be worth your trouble to check the chain line as you try to solve the 
> riddle. 
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 9:11:32 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
>> Hi Vincent,
>>
>> That Clem is beautiful, but your shifting issue sounds frustrating. Are 
>> you running a 9-speed cassette in the back? I had the indexing Sunrace 
>> thumbie on my Rivendell and performance felt just ok. My vintage Suntour 
>> thumb shifters from 1983 were better, and now I have a Riv silver thumbie 
>> on and it's also better. I suggest you buy one Riv silver thumbie and try 
>> that out. I clearly remember the PDF saying the stock shifters clicked but 
>> did not index. 
>>
>> Also, consider that the Altus rear derailleur is a $13 part. Maybe it's 
>> just not up for your rough rides on the train tracks? I have a silver 
>> thumbie with the SRAM GX 10 speed rear derailleur shifting a 9-speed 
>> cassette, and it works perfectly. I highly recommend it. It has a clutch on 
>> it so you can forget about chain slap and dropped chains. It's available 
>> for nice prices because the trend in mountain bikes is now 12 speeds. (A 
>> matching 10 speed click shifter is also available for cheap, but I haven't 
>> tried it.)
>>
>> I also have a narrow-wide chainring on the front. Perhaps you should 
>> consider one. How often are you using the biggest chainring? For me it's 
>> never (I took it off) because live in a city and commute so I rarely get up 
>> to speed for longer than 4 minutes. Are you regularly cruising above 15 
>> MPH? If not, go lower with your gearing. Wolf-Tooth and Stridsland both 
>> have excellent narrow-wide chainrings that will fit your cranks. Fewer 
>> moving parts is a nice thing for your bike. 
>>
>> I hope this helps. Happy riding. 
>>
>> Michael 
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 11:40:52 PM UTC-4 Vincent Tamer wrote:
>>
>>> I have an on going issue with my friction shifting setup on my 2016 
>>> complete Clem.
>>>
>>> I believe this will be my third cassette replacement now. Each time the 
>>> two smallest cogs are damaged/stripped for some reason, so that when I 
>>> pedal there is some crunching & ghost shifting. I cannot pedal with full 
>>> force on the first two gears.
>>>
>>> I’ve had issues with this since day one and I have a feeling it is due 
>>> to the 2016 complete clem’s shifting setup even though I’ve had it adjusted 
>>> and have explained to two different bike technicians.
>>>
>>> The shifter setup is odd, Riv even commented on how it was a little 
>>> strange in the Clem intro Pdf that was floating around for the longest time 
>>> (cannot find it now). I'm hoping someone knows what I'm talking about!
>>>
>>> These suntour shifters are set up in a reverse position and that they 
>>> have some kind of ratcheting mech in them. The clicks don’t always coincide 
>>> with a shift and maybe that has created some bad friction shifting form on 
>>> my part. Outside of that I’m at a loss for why I am having issues with 
>>> stripped cogs. 
>>>
>>> I’m considering switching to an indexed set up even though I don’t want 
>>> to but before I do, does any one have any wisdom they can shed on this 
>>> situation? Thank you!
>>>
>>> Pics are attached, of the whole bike (for fun) and of the shifter. I'll 
>>> grab some shots of the gears as well when I can.[image: 
>>> DSCF7718_sml.jpg][image: shifter.jpg]
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rapid rise derailleur suggestion

[John Rinker]

Perfectly clear! Thanks JJ.

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 8:17:37 PM UTC-7 J J wrote:

> High normal refers to “regular” rear derailleurs, for which the default 
> position with no spring tension is in the highest gear. Hence, high normal. 
> Low normal (what Shimano called Rapid Rise) is the opposite: the default 
> derailleur position without spring tension is in the lowest (largest) gear. 
>
> This is why Grant/Riv are calling their low normal derailleur in 
> development the “OM,” for opposite movement, sort of rejecting the notion 
> that high normal is the absolute normal. The different movements are just 
> opposite each other. 
>
>
>
> On Mar 18, 2024, at 11:02 PM, John Rinker  wrote:
>
> Just curious: What does 'high normal' mean in the derailleur world?
>
>
> Cheers, John
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 3:44:45 PM UTC-7 ian m wrote:
>
>> I believe the M952 is high normal, but you can't go wrong with the M951
>>
>> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 1:01:39 PM UTC-4 chintan...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking to try a RR derailleur and want something under 50-60 
>>> ideally.
>>>
>>> Which ones would you recommend? Were there are early RR derailleurs that 
>>> one should stay from or budget ones that are a good value? Were there 
>>> differences in pulley sizes - so would be better to get one where 
>>> replacements are available?
>>>
>>> I'm currently seeing an LX m580, xt M760, an xtr m951 and xtr m952 
>>> around that range on ebay in different used conditions...and then the 
>>> prices rise very quickly! 
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for guiding :)
>>> Chintan
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rapid rise derailleur suggestion

[Junes]

High normal refers to “regular” rear derailleurs, for which the default position with no spring tension is in the highest gear. Hence, high normal. Low normal (what Shimano called Rapid Rise) is the opposite: the default derailleur position without spring tension is in the lowest (largest) gear. This is why Grant/Riv are calling their low normal derailleur in development the “OM,” for opposite movement, sort of rejecting the notion that high normal is the absolute normal. The different movements are just opposite each other. On Mar 18, 2024, at 11:02 PM, John Rinker  wrote:Just curious: What does 'high normal' mean in the derailleur world?Cheers, JohnOn Monday, March 18, 2024 at 3:44:45 PM UTC-7 ian m wrote:I believe the M952 is high normal, but you can't go wrong with the M951On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 1:01:39 PM UTC-4 chintan...@gmail.com wrote:I'm looking to try a RR derailleur and want something under 50-60 ideally.Which ones would you recommend? Were there are early RR derailleurs that one should stay from or budget ones that are a good value? Were there differences in pulley sizes - so would be better to get one where replacements are available?I'm currently seeing an LX m580, xt M760, an xtr m951 and xtr m952 around that range on ebay in different used conditions...and then the prices rise very quickly! Thanks a lot for guiding :)Chintan



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[RBW] Re: Rapid rise derailleur suggestion

[John Rinker]

Just curious: What does 'high normal' mean in the derailleur world?

Cheers, John



On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 3:44:45 PM UTC-7 ian m wrote:

> I believe the M952 is high normal, but you can't go wrong with the M951
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 1:01:39 PM UTC-4 chintan...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm looking to try a RR derailleur and want something under 50-60 ideally.
>>
>> Which ones would you recommend? Were there are early RR derailleurs that 
>> one should stay from or budget ones that are a good value? Were there 
>> differences in pulley sizes - so would be better to get one where 
>> replacements are available?
>>
>> I'm currently seeing an LX m580, xt M760, an xtr m951 and xtr m952 around 
>> that range on ebay in different used conditions...and then the prices rise 
>> very quickly! 
>>
>> Thanks a lot for guiding :)
>> Chintan
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

[Ryan]

And Eric it looks like you have some other choices in your garage if you 
want to go upright...if the wheels are fun why not?

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 7:21:17 PM UTC-5 Jay wrote:

> I like it!  Splash some red, maybe bar tape, and it all works together 
> nicely.  I had my first ride on some Corsa Pro tires and agree, they are 
> fast.
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 5:49:35 PM UTC-4 reynoldslugs wrote:
>
>> Eric - 
>>
>> go for it, ride it, enjoy it.
>>
>> I  have a lovely 2003 Rivendell Custom. 
>>
>> In its first iteration, I put Mavic Ksyriums on it.
>>
>> Admiittedly, it looks better without the Ksyriums -  
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157625808579123/
>>
>> but I was happy riding them for a while, the bike still road great.  I 
>> got some funny looks but kept going.
>>
>> Story of my life, as it were -
>>
>> anyway, enjoy your bike.
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Max Beach
>> Santa Rosa CA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 7:57:32 AM UTC-7 EGNolan wrote:
>>
>>> I'll give lots more background on the backstory and handwringing that 
>>> led to this if you want, but long story short: I scored a mismatched 
>>> (different eras, different materials, different depths) set of Zipp wheels 
>>> extremely cheaply recently and decided to turn my Bosco'd 650b conversion 
>>> Riv Road back into a road bike set up for road riding. Pairing the wheels 
>>> with some on-sale Vittoria Corsa G2.0 in 32 width made the bike smoother 
>>> than with 650b x 42 GravelKings and loads faster. Is it an abomination? 
>>> Heresy? Who knows? Who cares? It's fun, lighter and I'm enjoying the set up 
>>> for now (though I may need a larger chainring now...)
>>>
>>> Enjoy (or not):
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_8312.JPG]
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Eric 
>>> Indpls
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Philadelphia Bike Expo March 16 - 17

[Doug H.]

Fantastic!! I've been keeping up with the PBE posts on Instagram. The 
number of vendors and cool products is amazing. I have added this to my 
bucket list of activities to do. Thanks for sharing the photos and short 
video of Pam maneuvering the box through the exhibit hall. The RivSisters 
look happy.
Doug

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 8:33:18 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Pam doing Pam Things (video, hope it works):
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Edelux II Headlamp Moisture - Is my light cooked?

[christian poppell]

Hey Collin,

I had the same issue with my hanging Edelux (also while living in 
Berkeley). The condensation would not go away no matter how long I kept it 
out of the rain. Turns out there was a bad batch of lights. I sent my light 
to Peter White and received a new one from the good folks at SON after a 
few months. 

https://groups.google.com/g/internet-bob/c/YOnBUDLMUT4/m/IpzcM-XXAwAJ ibob 
thread about the process

Best of luck!
Christian
high and dry in Phoenix, Arizona

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 4:09:43 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:

> Thanks Peter et al.,
>
> I'll go with the wait and see approach then (I've got 2 more years on the 
> warrant just in case). The condensation has already reduced a bit courtesy 
> of the lovely weather we have been having here. But regardless, definitely 
> a bit bummed that a $200+ fancy light has water intrusion with (in my 
> opinion) a "normal" amount of rain riding.
>
> Collin, riding dry, in Berkeley
>
> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 5:02:53 AM UTC-7 peter...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It's possible for water to enter the Edelux II housing, though it is not 
>> easy. However, the electronics inside are permanently encased in some sort 
>> of goop (that's a highly technical term) and will never be affected by 
>> water. So just keep riding and after a few days in good weather the little 
>> droplets will disappear.
>>
>> PJW
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 1:16 AM Collin A  wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy Folks,
>>>
>>> I wanted to query the collective experience of the group and ask a 
>>> couple questions regarding the ingress of moisture in my edelux II headlamp:
>>>
>>>1. For those that have experienced it, does the condensation 
>>>eventually dry out? If not, has anything you've tried been successful in 
>>>resolving it?
>>>2. Have there been any instances of a light NOT cutting 
>>>out/dimming/etc. once there is moisture within the light?
>>>3. At the end of the day, should take the "wait and see" approach or 
>>>just call in the warranty before it craps out?
>>>
>>> I only just noticed that there was condensation on the inside of the 
>>> glass this afternoon while removing fenders, so I have no idea how long 
>>> it's been there (although I did do a particularly wet ride last weekend). 
>>> Additionally I haven't noticed any reduced output or other issuesyet. I 
>>> marked the extents of the moisture and took a few photos to see if it'll 
>>> change over time.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin, a bit moist, in Berkeley
>>>
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>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

[Jay]

I like it!  Splash some red, maybe bar tape, and it all works together 
nicely.  I had my first ride on some Corsa Pro tires and agree, they are 
fast.

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 5:49:35 PM UTC-4 reynoldslugs wrote:

> Eric - 
>
> go for it, ride it, enjoy it.
>
> I  have a lovely 2003 Rivendell Custom. 
>
> In its first iteration, I put Mavic Ksyriums on it.
>
> Admiittedly, it looks better without the Ksyriums -  
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157625808579123/
>
> but I was happy riding them for a while, the bike still road great.  I got 
> some funny looks but kept going.
>
> Story of my life, as it were -
>
> anyway, enjoy your bike.
>
> best,
>
> Max Beach
> Santa Rosa CA
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 7:57:32 AM UTC-7 EGNolan wrote:
>
>> I'll give lots more background on the backstory and handwringing that led 
>> to this if you want, but long story short: I scored a mismatched (different 
>> eras, different materials, different depths) set of Zipp wheels extremely 
>> cheaply recently and decided to turn my Bosco'd 650b conversion Riv Road 
>> back into a road bike set up for road riding. Pairing the wheels with some 
>> on-sale Vittoria Corsa G2.0 in 32 width made the bike smoother than with 
>> 650b x 42 GravelKings and loads faster. Is it an abomination? Heresy? Who 
>> knows? Who cares? It's fun, lighter and I'm enjoying the set up for now 
>> (though I may need a larger chainring now...)
>>
>> Enjoy (or not):
>>
>> [image: IMG_8312.JPG]
>>
>> Best,
>> Eric 
>> Indpls
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Reports - Where You Defied the Weather

[Jay]

I liked your video John - thanks for sharing.  Looked like a nice route.

Nick - good proof of what I wrote about ride memories, that was 40 years 
ago and you shared some good details that I could easily visualize.

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 5:19:58 PM UTC-4 Nick Payne wrote:

> About 40 years ago, when I was a racing cyclist, I rode in an early season 
> spring race (three laps of a 50km circuit) that started in nice sunny 
> conditions with the temperature somewhere around 60-65F, so we all started 
> in shorts and short sleeves. Towards the end of the second lap, the wind 
> started to pick up and rather black clouds started rolling in, and shortly 
> after we started the final lap, it started to rain and the temperature 
> dropped quite noticeably. With about 30km left it started to hail and the 
> wind increased and the temperature dropped further. By the time we finished 
> (in dribs and drabs, my wife who was at the finish line told me that the 
> largest bunch she saw finishing was three or four riders), there was 
> several inches of hail on the ground, and my fingers were so cold that I 
> couldn't feel what I was touching. I was shaking uncontrollably, and had 
> real trouble undoing my toestraps so that I could get my feet out of the 
> pedals. I saw some cyclists who couldn't manage to get their toestraps 
> loosened at all - when they came to a halt, they just toppled over 
> sideways. It's by far the coldest I can remember getting on a bike in over 
> half a century of cycling.
>
> Nick Payne
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: (re-introducing) Amelia Homer Hilsen

[Josh C]

Looks great. 

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 8:02:43 PM UTC-4 Ethan K wrote:

> Thanks. I'm pleased with the bar tape choice as well. The Paul Racers are 
> great, though I think their industrial look is somewhat at odds with the 
> rest of the bike; They are one of the few choices I made with the bike that 
> I sometimes second-guress: wonder if I should have saved some $$ and gone 
> with the more classic-looking Tektros--but you can't argue the performance. 
> I think olive would be a good color choice. WIsh there were some sort of 
> configurator, like with cars, where you could get a better sense of the 
> final outcome. 
> --Eitan in MdR
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 9:12:10 AM UTC-7 Donzaemon wrote:
>
>> Your build came out very close to the build I'm working on--I think we 
>> have the same levers, brakes, saddle, and wheels. Great choice on the bar 
>> tape. I'm debating between that and the Blue Lug acrylic cloth tape in 
>> olive, which I already have in possession. 
>>
>> Well done!
>>
>> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 2:09:49 PM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>>
>>> Eitan,
>>>
>>> It looks like a delicious caramel. Love it.
>>>
>>> I’m in Mar Vista. Let’s go for a ride!
>>>
>>> - Keith
>>>
>>> On Mar 17, 2024, at 10:04 AM, Ethan K  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Seam, bars are wrapped with Brooks microfiber tape, (manufactured by 
>>> Fizik, I believe). Foe me at least,  the right balance of squish, grip, 
>>> weather resistance, and aesthetic complement to a leather saddle. While I 
>>> liked the look of the laquered Newbaum's, as supplied by Riv, in practice I 
>>> found it a little scratchy and hard. 
>>>
>>> --Eitan
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 7:46:32 AM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 Ha! 'Women, cats, or felonies'. Good one! Also, very beautiful bicycle. 
 Enjoy the ride!

 Cheers, John

 On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 6:51:51 AM UTC-7 SeanMac wrote:

> What a beautiful bike.  Glad it is working better for you.  Looks like 
> you had a great ride destination!
>
> What do you have those bars wrapped with?  
>
> Sean
> EA, NY
>
> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 1:06:52 AM UTC-4 eitanz...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks to everyone's suggestions for shortening the reach on my new 
>> A(melia) Homer Hilsen.
>>
>>  The 26mm diameter and silver finish requirements limited handlebar 
>> choices considerably, but I ended up going with Liz' suggestion for Soma 
>> Highway One bars, paired with 10mm shorter quill. The bike fits SO MUCH 
>> better now.  Rode for almost 4 hours yesterday with nary a shoulder, 
>> neck, 
>> nor arm twinge. 
>>
>> ** Why Amelia?
>> 1) The "A" has to stand for something.
>> 2) I've always been fond of the name, but S.O. nixed it from the baby 
>> name list--a diagreement mooted when she gave birth to a son.
>> 3) I always felt that bicycles, like ships, should be named after 
>> women, cats, or felonies. 
>>
>> Wish the pic could capture Amelia's subtle but elegant butternut 
>> sparkle:
>> [image: IMG_3578 (2).jpeg]
>>
>> New bars a much better fit for my body. However, I hadn't realized 
>> how much longer the drop part of the  bar would be than on the 
>> now-replaced 
>> Noodle, or maybe it's the shorter stem, or maybe both, but my knees will 
>> sometimes graze shifters when popping up out of a seated position. 
>> [image: IMG_3581 (2).jpeg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_3582 (2).jpeg]
>>
>> --Eitan in Marina Del Rey
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: (re-introducing) Amelia Homer Hilsen

[Ethan K]

Thanks. I'm pleased with the bar tape choice as well. The Paul Racers are 
great, though I think their industrial look is somewhat at odds with the 
rest of the bike; They are one of the few choices I made with the bike that 
I sometimes second-guress: wonder if I should have saved some $$ and gone 
with the more classic-looking Tektros--but you can't argue the performance. 
I think olive would be a good color choice. WIsh there were some sort of 
configurator, like with cars, where you could get a better sense of the 
final outcome. 
--Eitan in MdR
On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 9:12:10 AM UTC-7 Donzaemon wrote:

> Your build came out very close to the build I'm working on--I think we 
> have the same levers, brakes, saddle, and wheels. Great choice on the bar 
> tape. I'm debating between that and the Blue Lug acrylic cloth tape in 
> olive, which I already have in possession. 
>
> Well done!
>
> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 2:09:49 PM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:
>
>> Eitan,
>>
>> It looks like a delicious caramel. Love it.
>>
>> I’m in Mar Vista. Let’s go for a ride!
>>
>> - Keith
>>
>> On Mar 17, 2024, at 10:04 AM, Ethan K  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Seam, bars are wrapped with Brooks microfiber tape, (manufactured by 
>> Fizik, I believe). Foe me at least,  the right balance of squish, grip, 
>> weather resistance, and aesthetic complement to a leather saddle. While I 
>> liked the look of the laquered Newbaum's, as supplied by Riv, in practice I 
>> found it a little scratchy and hard. 
>>
>> --Eitan
>>
>> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 7:46:32 AM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Ha! 'Women, cats, or felonies'. Good one! Also, very beautiful bicycle. 
>>> Enjoy the ride!
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 6:51:51 AM UTC-7 SeanMac wrote:
>>>
 What a beautiful bike.  Glad it is working better for you.  Looks like 
 you had a great ride destination!

 What do you have those bars wrapped with?  

 Sean
 EA, NY

 On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 1:06:52 AM UTC-4 eitanz...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Thanks to everyone's suggestions for shortening the reach on my new 
> A(melia) Homer Hilsen.
>
>  The 26mm diameter and silver finish requirements limited handlebar 
> choices considerably, but I ended up going with Liz' suggestion for Soma 
> Highway One bars, paired with 10mm shorter quill. The bike fits SO MUCH 
> better now.  Rode for almost 4 hours yesterday with nary a shoulder, 
> neck, 
> nor arm twinge. 
>
> ** Why Amelia?
> 1) The "A" has to stand for something.
> 2) I've always been fond of the name, but S.O. nixed it from the baby 
> name list--a diagreement mooted when she gave birth to a son.
> 3) I always felt that bicycles, like ships, should be named after 
> women, cats, or felonies. 
>
> Wish the pic could capture Amelia's subtle but elegant butternut 
> sparkle:
> [image: IMG_3578 (2).jpeg]
>
> New bars a much better fit for my body. However, I hadn't realized how 
> much longer the drop part of the  bar would be than on the now-replaced 
> Noodle, or maybe it's the shorter stem, or maybe both, but my knees will 
> sometimes graze shifters when popping up out of a seated position. 
> [image: IMG_3581 (2).jpeg]
>
> [image: IMG_3582 (2).jpeg]
>
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Re: [RBW] Edelux II Headlamp Moisture - Is my light cooked?

[Collin A]

Thanks Peter et al.,

I'll go with the wait and see approach then (I've got 2 more years on the 
warrant just in case). The condensation has already reduced a bit courtesy 
of the lovely weather we have been having here. But regardless, definitely 
a bit bummed that a $200+ fancy light has water intrusion with (in my 
opinion) a "normal" amount of rain riding.

Collin, riding dry, in Berkeley

On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 5:02:53 AM UTC-7 peter...@gmail.com wrote:

> It's possible for water to enter the Edelux II housing, though it is not 
> easy. However, the electronics inside are permanently encased in some sort 
> of goop (that's a highly technical term) and will never be affected by 
> water. So just keep riding and after a few days in good weather the little 
> droplets will disappear.
>
> PJW
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 1:16 AM Collin A  wrote:
>
>> Howdy Folks,
>>
>> I wanted to query the collective experience of the group and ask a couple 
>> questions regarding the ingress of moisture in my edelux II headlamp:
>>
>>1. For those that have experienced it, does the condensation 
>>eventually dry out? If not, has anything you've tried been successful in 
>>resolving it?
>>2. Have there been any instances of a light NOT cutting 
>>out/dimming/etc. once there is moisture within the light?
>>3. At the end of the day, should take the "wait and see" approach or 
>>just call in the warranty before it craps out?
>>
>> I only just noticed that there was condensation on the inside of the 
>> glass this afternoon while removing fenders, so I have no idea how long 
>> it's been there (although I did do a particularly wet ride last weekend). 
>> Additionally I haven't noticed any reduced output or other issuesyet. I 
>> marked the extents of the moisture and took a few photos to see if it'll 
>> change over time.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin, a bit moist, in Berkeley
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[RBW] Re: Rapid rise derailleur suggestion

[ian m]

I believe the M952 is high normal, but you can't go wrong with the M951

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 1:01:39 PM UTC-4 chintan...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm looking to try a RR derailleur and want something under 50-60 ideally.
>
> Which ones would you recommend? Were there are early RR derailleurs that 
> one should stay from or budget ones that are a good value? Were there 
> differences in pulley sizes - so would be better to get one where 
> replacements are available?
>
> I'm currently seeing an LX m580, xt M760, an xtr m951 and xtr m952 around 
> that range on ebay in different used conditions...and then the prices rise 
> very quickly! 
>
> Thanks a lot for guiding :)
> Chintan
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[RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

[reynoldslugs]

Eric - 

go for it, ride it, enjoy it.

I  have a lovely 2003 Rivendell Custom. 

In its first iteration, I put Mavic Ksyriums on it.

Admiittedly, it looks better without the Ksyriums -  

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157625808579123/

but I was happy riding them for a while, the bike still road great.  I got 
some funny looks but kept going.

Story of my life, as it were -

anyway, enjoy your bike.

best,

Max Beach
Santa Rosa CA



On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 7:57:32 AM UTC-7 EGNolan wrote:

> I'll give lots more background on the backstory and handwringing that led 
> to this if you want, but long story short: I scored a mismatched (different 
> eras, different materials, different depths) set of Zipp wheels extremely 
> cheaply recently and decided to turn my Bosco'd 650b conversion Riv Road 
> back into a road bike set up for road riding. Pairing the wheels with some 
> on-sale Vittoria Corsa G2.0 in 32 width made the bike smoother than with 
> 650b x 42 GravelKings and loads faster. Is it an abomination? Heresy? Who 
> knows? Who cares? It's fun, lighter and I'm enjoying the set up for now 
> (though I may need a larger chainring now...)
>
> Enjoy (or not):
>
> [image: IMG_8312.JPG]
>
> Best,
> Eric 
> Indpls
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[RBW] Re: Thumbshifters

[John]

Ahh apologies, I see what you're saying now. I never actually removed the 
shifters from the clamps so can't speak to that. I just reversed the entire 
shifter assemblies around.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Thumbshifters

[Practigal]

Oh, golly! Thank you. I have outbound hemispheric reversal (a fancy way of 
saying I see the correct orientation bit it gets turned around on the way out) 
so I frequently have things backwards. This was very helpful.







> On Mar 18, 2024, at 2:31 PM, DavidP  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Kiley,
> 
> Your photo shows a Left-sided shifter on a Left-sided mount clamped to the 
> right side of the bar. If it was a Right-sided mount the cable would be 
> exiting towards you. If it was a Right-sided shifter the direction of cable 
> pull would not match the cable stop on the mount.
> 
> I've attached photos of a Left-sided mount and Right-sided shifter. You can 
> see that the mount matches the orientation you have pictured but the shifter 
> doesn't. A left-sided shifter on a Left-sided mount matches your photo's 
> orientation.
> Best,
> -Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 3:28:53 PM UTC-4 Kiley Demond wrote:
> 
>> Thank you. Unfortunately, I like indexing. What I meant by reversing them is 
>> that the shifter could be removed from the holder and easily re-attached to 
>> the opposite side holder so the originally R shifter is now on the L holder 
>> which is on the Right side of the handlebar. I found a photo showing one on 
>> my Cheviot. The shifter did have a black sleeve that I removed. > image>
>> 
>> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 7:19:18 AM UTC-7 John wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Kiley. I'm running 9sp Microshift thumbies reversed and it works really 
>>> well. As Joe says, you install (without cabling) the original left/FD 
>>> shifter on the right side under the bar, and original right/RD shifter on 
>>> the left. I'm not sure what you mean by easy to reverse on the holders or 
>>> cannot be reversed on the holders. For the Microshifts, it should be a 
>>> simple matter of switching them around and mounting under/inside the bar!
>>> 
>>> John in Minnesota
>>> 
>> 
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[RBW] Re: Ride Reports - Where You Defied the Weather

[Nick Payne]

About 40 years ago, when I was a racing cyclist, I rode in an early season 
spring race (three laps of a 50km circuit) that started in nice sunny 
conditions with the temperature somewhere around 60-65F, so we all started 
in shorts and short sleeves. Towards the end of the second lap, the wind 
started to pick up and rather black clouds started rolling in, and shortly 
after we started the final lap, it started to rain and the temperature 
dropped quite noticeably. With about 30km left it started to hail and the 
wind increased and the temperature dropped further. By the time we finished 
(in dribs and drabs, my wife who was at the finish line told me that the 
largest bunch she saw finishing was three or four riders), there was 
several inches of hail on the ground, and my fingers were so cold that I 
couldn't feel what I was touching. I was shaking uncontrollably, and had 
real trouble undoing my toestraps so that I could get my feet out of the 
pedals. I saw some cyclists who couldn't manage to get their toestraps 
loosened at all - when they came to a halt, they just toppled over 
sideways. It's by far the coldest I can remember getting on a bike in over 
half a century of cycling.

Nick Payne

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Re: [RBW] Rapid rise derailleur suggestion

[EGNolan]

I have acquired a few and enjoy them when paired with the correct 
thumbshifter. To me, they're not inherently better than High Normal 
derailleurs, BUT because I always use my thumbshifters to shift the rear 
derailleur and keep them on the inside of my bars, the Low Normal/Rapid 
Rise keep me moving in the same direction regardless of whether it's a 
Right thumbshifter or a Left thumbshifter. I've used (and still have) a 
Deore, LX, XT & XTR. While the weight and appearance differ, I haven't seen 
a huge improvement in shifting from one to the other... I've got more RR 
derailleurs than bikes at this point (and love my High Normal XTR) so if 
you'd be into a well loved LX or really good shape Deore, I'd be happy to 
sell one for $50 shipped.

Eric 
Indpls

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 3:25:17 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Honestly I gave up on them because the costs are way over what a very nice 
> non-RR sells for. Its an interesting feature and I understand why people 
> like it but at the end of the day I personally don't think the difference 
> is life changing enough to pay the premium. Shimano really doesn't make any 
> junk at any price point though so I think any of them will work. Some are 
> more attractive than others. If Rivendell eventually comes out with their 
> RR RD I will likely pick it up to support them. They have dropped a lot of 
> time and money into that project.
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 1:11:47 PM UTC-4 vhans...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Any are good.  I am assuming you are using a cassette with the standard 
>> 34t or 36t top gear.   Any those you list will do the job adequately. .
>>
>> vtw
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 10:01 AM chintan jadwani  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm looking to try a RR derailleur and want something under 50-60 
>>> ideally.
>>>
>>> Which ones would you recommend? Were there are early RR derailleurs that 
>>> one should stay from or budget ones that are a good value? Were there 
>>> differences in pulley sizes - so would be better to get one where 
>>> replacements are available?
>>>
>>> I'm currently seeing an LX m580, xt M760, an xtr m951 and xtr m952 
>>> around that range on ebay in different used conditions...and then the 
>>> prices rise very quickly! 
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for guiding :)
>>> Chintan
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Rapid rise derailleur suggestion

[Johnny Alien]

Honestly I gave up on them because the costs are way over what a very nice 
non-RR sells for. Its an interesting feature and I understand why people 
like it but at the end of the day I personally don't think the difference 
is life changing enough to pay the premium. Shimano really doesn't make any 
junk at any price point though so I think any of them will work. Some are 
more attractive than others. If Rivendell eventually comes out with their 
RR RD I will likely pick it up to support them. They have dropped a lot of 
time and money into that project.

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 1:11:47 PM UTC-4 vhans...@gmail.com wrote:

> Any are good.  I am assuming you are using a cassette with the standard 
> 34t or 36t top gear.   Any those you list will do the job adequately. .
>
> vtw
>
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 10:01 AM chintan jadwani  
> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking to try a RR derailleur and want something under 50-60 ideally.
>>
>> Which ones would you recommend? Were there are early RR derailleurs that 
>> one should stay from or budget ones that are a good value? Were there 
>> differences in pulley sizes - so would be better to get one where 
>> replacements are available?
>>
>> I'm currently seeing an LX m580, xt M760, an xtr m951 and xtr m952 around 
>> that range on ebay in different used conditions...and then the prices rise 
>> very quickly! 
>>
>> Thanks a lot for guiding :)
>> Chintan
>>
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[RBW] Re: Thumbshifters

[Kiley Demond]

Thank you. The only issue is I kinda like indexing shifters... 

On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 6:06:01 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> You swap 'em without cables installed: left goes on right, right goes on 
> left. Then you put the cables on and run them in friction. 
>
> Once it's done it will seem simple but I can verify the brain takes a 
> minute to grasp the idea. 
>
> On Saturday, March 16, 2024 at 11:15:30 AM UTC-7 Kiley Demond wrote:
>
>> I am *still* getting my Clem L finished (it was 'found' stock which I 
>> now understand was not in inventory originally because it had issues which 
>> weren't tracked so I received a bike with build issues). I didn't like the 
>> shifter arrangement so I purchased Microshift thumbshifters. When I put new 
>> shifters on my Cheviot, I don't recall which ones I purchased, but I do 
>> know they were easy to reverse on the holders. This doesn't seem possible 
>> with the Mircroshift shifters. 
>>
>> I am looking for corroboration that they cannot be reversed (the 
>> internal stack) on the holders. As it stands, they are on the outside of 
>> the handlebars. Then, assuming I am correct, I am looking for 
>> recommendations on other shifters that will work (i.e. Silver, Sunrace, Dia 
>> Compe). 
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> kiley
>>
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RE: [RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

[Bernard Duhon]

How about riv with Campy neutron or protons



From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Bill Lindsay
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 1:33 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

...speaking of getting fancy wheels on the cheap, I had been watching some HED 
tubulars really cheap on eBay and finally pulled the trigger.  They are now 
installed on my Legolas, so we can start our Rivendells with tubulars thread.

BL in EC
On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 9:58:10 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
Whatever gets you riding it.  Carbon rims are "invisible" if they have a decent 
braking surface, as those appear to have.  I think it's fun.  Grant poked fun 
at the 20-spoke front wheel on my new Roadeo.  Those wheels are definitely ugly 
but ugly gets you a good price sometimes.  Lean into it and you can make ugly 
work for you.  You've got a very very good shade of green to counterbalance the 
wheels.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 7:57:32 AM UTC-7 EGNolan wrote:
I'll give lots more background on the backstory and handwringing that led to 
this if you want, but long story short: I scored a mismatched (different eras, 
different materials, different depths) set of Zipp wheels extremely cheaply 
recently and decided to turn my Bosco'd 650b conversion Riv Road back into a 
road bike set up for road riding. Pairing the wheels with some on-sale Vittoria 
Corsa G2.0 in 32 width made the bike smoother than with 650b x 42 GravelKings 
and loads faster. Is it an abomination? Heresy? Who knows? Who cares? It's fun, 
lighter and I'm enjoying the set up for now (though I may need a larger 
chainring now...)

Enjoy (or not):

[https://groups.google.com/u/1/group/rbw-owners-bunch/attach/2c40bafb6a730/IMG_8312.JPG?part=0.1=1]

Best,
Eric
Indpls
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[RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

[Bill Lindsay]

...speaking of getting fancy wheels on the cheap, I had been watching some 
HED tubulars really cheap on eBay and finally pulled the trigger.  They are 
now installed on my Legolas, so we can start our Rivendells with tubulars 
thread.  

BL in EC

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 9:58:10 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Whatever gets you riding it.  Carbon rims are "invisible" if they have a 
> decent braking surface, as those appear to have.  I think it's fun.  Grant 
> poked fun at the 20-spoke front wheel on my new Roadeo.  Those wheels are 
> definitely ugly but ugly gets you a good price sometimes.  Lean into it and 
> you can make ugly work for you.  You've got a very very good shade of green 
> to counterbalance the wheels.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 7:57:32 AM UTC-7 EGNolan wrote:
>
>> I'll give lots more background on the backstory and handwringing that led 
>> to this if you want, but long story short: I scored a mismatched (different 
>> eras, different materials, different depths) set of Zipp wheels extremely 
>> cheaply recently and decided to turn my Bosco'd 650b conversion Riv Road 
>> back into a road bike set up for road riding. Pairing the wheels with some 
>> on-sale Vittoria Corsa G2.0 in 32 width made the bike smoother than with 
>> 650b x 42 GravelKings and loads faster. Is it an abomination? Heresy? Who 
>> knows? Who cares? It's fun, lighter and I'm enjoying the set up for now 
>> (though I may need a larger chainring now...)
>>
>> Enjoy (or not):
>>
>> [image: IMG_8312.JPG]
>>
>> Best,
>> Eric 
>> Indpls
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB Riv Canti/Vbrake Frame in 54/55/56

[Drew Fitchette]

Still on the hunt here in the event anyone's still got a frame/bike they 
might want to thin out of their herd. 

On Tuesday, March 12, 2024 at 10:20:05 AM UTC-4 DavidP wrote:

> Bill suggested a Platy or other dropped top tube frame might be a better 
> fit for your proportions. Depending on the handlebar you are looking to use 
> and whether you are looking at the newer, expanded geometry frames, I agree.
>
> At 5'11" and 87cm PBH my proportions are more normalized than yours, but 
> I've found a 60cm Platypus to give reach allowing for a Bosco/Tosco without 
> worrying about standover. I wouldn't be able to clear an Appaloosa or 
> Atlantis with the same reach, meaning I'd want a longer stem than the 120mm 
> I have on the Platy or bar with less rearward extension.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 3:09:45 PM UTC-4 drewfi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Super helpful Keith! 
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:53:27 PM UTC-4 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:30:27 AM UTC-6 drewfi...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> My dimensions have been the bane of my cycling existence, Bill! 
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill's question and suggestion to clarify was pretty insightful then.  I 
>>> suffer from the same handicap as you:  short legs/ long torso.  (6'2" w/ 87 
>>> pbh in my case.)  
>>>
>>> Knowing what I now know after many years of figuring it out,  I'd 
>>> suggest making sure you get the biggest frame you can possibly stand over.  
>>> Especially with the older models that tended to have proportionately 
>>> shorter top tubes.  They might still only be marginally long enough, but 
>>> the good news is that there was likely a size increment that worked pretty 
>>> well.  The later, expanded-sizing models don't come in as many increments, 
>>> but the good nees here is that if you DO happen to find one that maxes-out 
>>> your standover height  it is likely to be the most no-compromise, best-fit 
>>> bike you've ever owned.  Just don't settle until you find it.  
>>>
>>> Also, FWIW, the very first run of sam hillbournes (canti versions in 
>>> metalic orange or sagey green wihout creme headtubes and with gold decals, 
>>> I recall), which were among  if not THE first to use the expanded sizing, 
>>> had longer top tubes than later versions.  Im always on the lookout for one 
>>> of those, even though i don't "need" one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I'm in Atlanta GA, but I travel all over the East coast for work. Also 
>>> have shipped plenty with bikeflights and happy to talk to folks from 
>>> wherever about what's available!
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:26:04 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah you're a fair bit taller than me and I used to ride a 58cm 700c 
>>> original-run Atlantis.  That may be a tricky fit challenge.  I like your 
>>> inclusion of the Platy on your list.  No standover worries with a nice big 
>>> step through!  Last suggestion, if you mention your general location, you 
>>> may be able to arrange test-ride try-outs on a good candidate chassis from 
>>> a friendly RBWGroup reader.  Good luck with the search  
>>>
>>> BL
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 10:17:11 AM UTC-7 drewfi...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the thoughts Bill! 
>>>
>>> My saddle height is 74cm and the Atlantis I just got rid of is a 53cm. 
>>> I'm 6' with a 840 pbh, so pretty long torso and shorter legs. 
>>>
>>> Budget is fairly open depending on what the Frame is/how rare it might 
>>> be.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 1:10:51 PM UTC-4 Ryan wrote:
>>>
>>> what size are you looking for?
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 11, 2024 at 11:55:25 AM UTC-5 drewfi...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Y'all,
>>>
>>> Recently sold my Atlantis frame that was a bit too small for me to move 
>>> up to something that fits better. Wondering if anyone here has an 
>>> Appaloosa, Atlantis, Plat, Sam that they're looking to move on. Also into 
>>> older models if the sizing works/they're in good shape(Hunq, Saluki, 
>>> Bombadil, etc.)
>>>
>>> Figure this might be a long shot, but better to make it known here 
>>> before starting to dig too deep into the corners of the internet.
>>>
>>> - Drew
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Rapid rise derailleur suggestion

[Victor Hanson]

Any are good.  I am assuming you are using a cassette with the standard 34t
or 36t top gear.   Any those you list will do the job adequately. .

vtw

On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 10:01 AM chintan jadwani 
wrote:

> I'm looking to try a RR derailleur and want something under 50-60 ideally.
>
> Which ones would you recommend? Were there are early RR derailleurs that
> one should stay from or budget ones that are a good value? Were there
> differences in pulley sizes - so would be better to get one where
> replacements are available?
>
> I'm currently seeing an LX m580, xt M760, an xtr m951 and xtr m952 around
> that range on ebay in different used conditions...and then the prices rise
> very quickly!
>
> Thanks a lot for guiding :)
> Chintan
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[RBW] Rapid rise derailleur suggestion

[chintan jadwani]

I'm looking to try a RR derailleur and want something under 50-60 ideally.

Which ones would you recommend? Were there are early RR derailleurs that 
one should stay from or budget ones that are a good value? Were there 
differences in pulley sizes - so would be better to get one where 
replacements are available?

I'm currently seeing an LX m580, xt M760, an xtr m951 and xtr m952 around 
that range on ebay in different used conditions...and then the prices rise 
very quickly! 

Thanks a lot for guiding :)
Chintan

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[RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

[Bill Lindsay]

Whatever gets you riding it.  Carbon rims are "invisible" if they have a 
decent braking surface, as those appear to have.  I think it's fun.  Grant 
poked fun at the 20-spoke front wheel on my new Roadeo.  Those wheels are 
definitely ugly but ugly gets you a good price sometimes.  Lean into it and 
you can make ugly work for you.  You've got a very very good shade of green 
to counterbalance the wheels.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 7:57:32 AM UTC-7 EGNolan wrote:

> I'll give lots more background on the backstory and handwringing that led 
> to this if you want, but long story short: I scored a mismatched (different 
> eras, different materials, different depths) set of Zipp wheels extremely 
> cheaply recently and decided to turn my Bosco'd 650b conversion Riv Road 
> back into a road bike set up for road riding. Pairing the wheels with some 
> on-sale Vittoria Corsa G2.0 in 32 width made the bike smoother than with 
> 650b x 42 GravelKings and loads faster. Is it an abomination? Heresy? Who 
> knows? Who cares? It's fun, lighter and I'm enjoying the set up for now 
> (though I may need a larger chainring now...)
>
> Enjoy (or not):
>
> [image: IMG_8312.JPG]
>
> Best,
> Eric 
> Indpls
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: (re-introducing) Amelia Homer Hilsen

[Donzaemon]

Your build came out very close to the build I'm working on--I think we have 
the same levers, brakes, saddle, and wheels. Great choice on the bar tape. 
I'm debating between that and the Blue Lug acrylic cloth tape in olive, 
which I already have in possession. 

Well done!

On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 2:09:49 PM UTC-7 Keith P. wrote:

> Eitan,
>
> It looks like a delicious caramel. Love it.
>
> I’m in Mar Vista. Let’s go for a ride!
>
> - Keith
>
> On Mar 17, 2024, at 10:04 AM, Ethan K  wrote:
>
> Hi Seam, bars are wrapped with Brooks microfiber tape, (manufactured by 
> Fizik, I believe). Foe me at least,  the right balance of squish, grip, 
> weather resistance, and aesthetic complement to a leather saddle. While I 
> liked the look of the laquered Newbaum's, as supplied by Riv, in practice I 
> found it a little scratchy and hard. 
>
> --Eitan
>
> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 7:46:32 AM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Ha! 'Women, cats, or felonies'. Good one! Also, very beautiful bicycle. 
>> Enjoy the ride!
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 6:51:51 AM UTC-7 SeanMac wrote:
>>
>>> What a beautiful bike.  Glad it is working better for you.  Looks like 
>>> you had a great ride destination!
>>>
>>> What do you have those bars wrapped with?  
>>>
>>> Sean
>>> EA, NY
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 1:06:52 AM UTC-4 eitanz...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Thanks to everyone's suggestions for shortening the reach on my new 
 A(melia) Homer Hilsen.

  The 26mm diameter and silver finish requirements limited handlebar 
 choices considerably, but I ended up going with Liz' suggestion for Soma 
 Highway One bars, paired with 10mm shorter quill. The bike fits SO MUCH 
 better now.  Rode for almost 4 hours yesterday with nary a shoulder, neck, 
 nor arm twinge. 

 ** Why Amelia?
 1) The "A" has to stand for something.
 2) I've always been fond of the name, but S.O. nixed it from the baby 
 name list--a diagreement mooted when she gave birth to a son.
 3) I always felt that bicycles, like ships, should be named after 
 women, cats, or felonies. 

 Wish the pic could capture Amelia's subtle but elegant butternut 
 sparkle:
 [image: IMG_3578 (2).jpeg]

 New bars a much better fit for my body. However, I hadn't realized how 
 much longer the drop part of the  bar would be than on the now-replaced 
 Noodle, or maybe it's the shorter stem, or maybe both, but my knees will 
 sometimes graze shifters when popping up out of a seated position. 
 [image: IMG_3581 (2).jpeg]

 [image: IMG_3582 (2).jpeg]

 --Eitan in Marina Del Rey

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Re: [RBW] Ride Reports - Where You Defied the Weather

[John G]

Visual ride report of a day that ended in pretty hard rain.  About 6 
minutes into the video the rain came. at 9:40 we're making wakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRgZG5d10ZY

Cheers,
 John G
Union Bridge, MD
On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 7:40:07 PM UTC-4 Jay wrote:

> Where riding and work meet to make for interesting stories is memorable 
> indeed.  That sounds so different from where I live, other than the wind.
>
> My first bike as an adult was a Kona Blast, and I had two wheel sets.  I 
> remember trying to keep up with my brother in law one day with the road 
> wheels, a 40k road ride in windy conditions, him on his new Trek road bike 
> (trying to ride like Lance lol); I was about 40 pounds heavier but that 
> didn't matter, I was going to suffer on that bike, against him on his road 
> bike.
>
> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 4:23:49 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Nothing epic here either, but I'll play. This incident sticks in my 
>> memory as one of those incidents that you laugh about for the rest of your 
>> life.
>>
>> Probably 30 years ago, young, spry 38 or 39 year old, working in Gallup, 
>> Four Corners NM, outskirts of the Navajo Reservation. Took long lunch 
>> break, early April, for ride. Spring winds had Sprung up. Winter layoff; 
>> fat, tired, and weak. Took the hotrodded 1991 Specialized Stumpjumper Team 
>> with "road" wheelset (1 of 3: road, commuting, dirt): 559X 0.9" Specialized 
>> Turbos, 48/38/26 triple (Topline?) and 12-19 7 speed cassette, (22 mm tires 
>> on 19 mm OW rims = 24" diameter X 48/12 = 96" high). Rode east on Rte 66 
>> with howling spring westerly behind me, big ring and small cogs, 27-28 mph, 
>> thought, "Not bad, not bad, I'm in good shape!" 12-13 miles to where 66 
>> disappeared into eastbound I-14. Turned around to go back.
>>
>> NM spring westerlies are beasts!
>>
>> Tailwind became headwind. Started in 38, used up cassette, admitted 
>> defeat and got into the 26. Plugged away, ran out of water, plugged away 
>> until I got back to office. 
>>
>> Exhausted, red eye from dust and wind, cramps in quads and calves, and 
>> also abdominals. Cramped standing up, bent over, cramped bending over. Had 
>> local-access TV show that evening (Gallup, NM; small time doesn't begin to 
>> describe it, but I was PR Director for the area HC system). Went on air at 
>> ~6 pm with cramps and red eyes. Never learned about the Nielsen ratings.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 9:29 AM Jay  wrote:
>>
>>> Some of my most memorable rides involved bad weather.  I recall many 
>>> moments from a ride close to 20 years ago, where halfway into a 60k ride it 
>>> started snowing, a lot.  I rode home 30km in what accumulated to 5cm of 
>>> snow, on 35mm tires.  I used a small backpack with a water bladder and the 
>>> hose froze and I was out of water/food.  I stayed upright. I smiled most of 
>>> the time (when I wasn't displaying fear when cornering), and realized that 
>>> such rides can bring one a lot of joy.  On the flip side, I probably had 
>>> 20-30 rides last year in perfect weather...can't recall one detail.
>>>
>>> I would love to read your ride reports where defied the weather.  I have 
>>> one below, from this morning's ride.
>>>
>>> *"Winter's Revenge"*
>>> *Distance*: 40km
>>> *Elevation*: 400m
>>> *Temperature*: -2C to +1C
>>> *Disclaimers*: no photos (use your visualization skills!); lot's of 
>>> talk about non-riv bike
>>>
>>> I woke up at 6am and checked the latest weather report on my phone while 
>>> lying in bed: snow/rain showers starting at 8am, wind gusts up to 50km.  
>>> The radar showed a blue/green blob heading towards me.  
>>>
>>> On Friday I had taken the afternoon off to ride, it was 15C with very 
>>> little wind.  Had a great ride on Leo (Roadini; aka Goldilocks).  Didn't 
>>> ride yesterday (Saturday).  Rest of the week looks pretty bad (and I'm 
>>> working, so limited time to ride).  I had to ride this morning...
>>>
>>> Went downstairs and checked out the current conditions: it was still 
>>> dark, moderate wind, dry roads.  I made tea and did my morning loosening up 
>>> (stretching) routine as I contemplated which bike to take, scouring the 
>>> multiple weather sites.  Leo, with her rim brakes, double drive train, and 
>>> 43mm smooth tires, or the Fargo with her 2.2" tires, mech discs, 1x.  I'm a 
>>> bit "soft" when it comes to my bikes so I opted for the Fargo (just 
>>> couldn't put Leo through what might be some crappy weather).  Neither bike 
>>> has fenders (but they're on my future acquisition list).
>>>
>>> I rolled out in the dark, just as the sky was brightening.  It rained 
>>> last night but as the wind was picking up and I was riding right into it, I 
>>> took some shortcuts on tree-lined gravel paths sheltered from the wind.  
>>> After 30 minutes the wind was a steady 20-30km/h and I can see dark clouds 
>>> in the distance.  They were not all too distant though, as within a few 
>>> more km it started snowing.  As it 

Re: [RBW] Philadelphia Bike Expo March 16 - 17

[Tom Goodmann]

Echoing Eric: so good to see Roman, James, and Will--and three beautiful 
bikes (all of which sold, I believe)--as well as meeting Roberta, Leah, 
Pam, Tom, Patty, Paul, Rick (riding a Rom with 38s!) and others at PBE. 
Multiple Atlantises and Platys amid the throngs. A very nice event in every 
respect; lots of group rides, including Saturday night to Keystone Bicycle 
Company for beer and pretzels, our group led by Pam. And seeing the work of 
advocates, of component makers, and the bikes of fine builders.  Very good 
crowds, too, on both days. I'm glad I went.  Thanks, Rivfolk!

Tom

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 9:50:54 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Oh and Bill too! Bill, I saw you heading to the expo on Sunday morning 
> while I was having a coffee at Habitat, didn't want to shout at you though. 
> Nice Atlantis!
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 9:50:05 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> I had a nice visit at PBE. It was great to meet Pam, Leah, Roberta and 
>> Tim from here on the board! 
>>
>> Thanks to Tim for the Saturday night convoy to Keystone, riding bikes in 
>> the woods with a train of dynamos is really something. 
>>
>> Here's one with the fellas from Riv and Paul R. 
>>
>> [image: 240313 PBE 06.jpg]
>>
>> On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 9:44:15 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> How about an informal meet at the Riv booth right after the show opens?  
>>>
>>> I'll be sporting a black Green Guru backpack (made with inner tubes) 
>>> with a Riv triangle.  I have white hair.
>>>
>>> I hope to see old friends and meet new ones!
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 10:11:09 PM UTC-5 brycel...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 There’s more where that came from, I can send them more easily via 
 text. This is more or less its current configuration[image: IMG_0031]

 On Mar 9, 2024, at 10:05 PM, Bryce Lackey  wrote:

 

 <00m0m_3DD3lNnQboh_1320MM_600x450.jpg>
 XL Rivendell Sam Hillborne Frameset W Extras - bicycles - by owner - 
 bike sale - craigslist 
 
 philadelphia.craigslist.org 
 

 

 Here’s the ad. A couple pictures demonstrating the frame condition and 
 one of it all built up. 

 On Mar 9, 2024, at 12:18 PM, 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 I know a guy who would love that . . . not me.  Do you have pics or a 
 link to the CL ad?

 On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 8:30:46 AM UTC-5 brycel...@gmail.com wrote:

> For anyone extra tall coming in from out of town, I have a 62cm Sam 
> listed as a frameset w crank and seat post on CL here in Philly. If you 
> want to make a deal, I am open to offers and have all the fixings for a 
> complete build. I'll be around doing some of the local rides as well as 
> the 
> Keystone afterparty. 
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 1:58:21 PM UTC-5 benjamin@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I’ll see you all there! I’ve got to work Saturday but I’ll make it 
>> out to the Expo on Sunday and Keystone’s partay Saturday night. My 
>> three-year-old has developed a distinct preference for the Surly Cross 
>> Check over the Atlantis and Clem but whatever the case we’ll roll up on 
>> two 
>> wheels. 
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 5:22 PM Roberta  wrote:
>>
>>> https://phillybikeexpo.com/
>>>
>>> Lots of things to do--the expo, rides, parties, coffee and meet ups.
>>>
>>> I'm going.  Who else?  I'm within walking distance to the expo (but 
>>> will be riding my Betty Foy there, because, well..., I should ride).  
>>> If 
>>> anyone needs any local assistance, please reach out via DM.  
>>>
>>> There is free bike valet parking by Neighborhood Bike works, and 
>>> donations accepted.  It's a great way to fund the community bike center.
>>>
>>> I hope to meet or see again lots of us happy Riv riders.
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Philadelphia Bike Expo March 16 - 17

[Bill Schaefer]

Had a great time. Nice to meet you Eric, Leah, and Pam. Looking forward to 
next year!

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 9:58:55 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> It was such a great time. I’ll post later but here is Eric and Pam, 
> meeting for the first time after Eric’s famous Fixing Pam’s Shifters video:
> [image: image0.jpeg]
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 18, 2024, at 9:51 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Oh and Bill too! Bill, I saw you heading to the expo on Sunday morning 
> while I was having a coffee at Habitat, didn't want to shout at you though. 
> Nice Atlantis!
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 9:50:05 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> I had a nice visit at PBE. It was great to meet Pam, Leah, Roberta and 
>> Tim from here on the board! 
>>
>> Thanks to Tim for the Saturday night convoy to Keystone, riding bikes in 
>> the woods with a train of dynamos is really something. 
>>
>> Here's one with the fellas from Riv and Paul R. 
>>
>> [image: 240313 PBE 06.jpg]
>>
>> On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 9:44:15 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> How about an informal meet at the Riv booth right after the show opens?  
>>>
>>> I'll be sporting a black Green Guru backpack (made with inner tubes) 
>>> with a Riv triangle.  I have white hair.
>>>
>>> I hope to see old friends and meet new ones!
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 10:11:09 PM UTC-5 brycel...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 There’s more where that came from, I can send them more easily via 
 text. This is more or less its current configuration[image: IMG_0031]

 On Mar 9, 2024, at 10:05 PM, Bryce Lackey  wrote:

 

 <00m0m_3DD3lNnQboh_1320MM_600x450.jpg>
 XL Rivendell Sam Hillborne Frameset W Extras - bicycles - by owner - 
 bike sale - craigslist 
 
 philadelphia.craigslist.org 
 

 

 Here’s the ad. A couple pictures demonstrating the frame condition and 
 one of it all built up. 

 On Mar 9, 2024, at 12:18 PM, 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 I know a guy who would love that . . . not me.  Do you have pics or a 
 link to the CL ad?

 On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 8:30:46 AM UTC-5 brycel...@gmail.com wrote:

> For anyone extra tall coming in from out of town, I have a 62cm Sam 
> listed as a frameset w crank and seat post on CL here in Philly. If you 
> want to make a deal, I am open to offers and have all the fixings for a 
> complete build. I'll be around doing some of the local rides as well as 
> the 
> Keystone afterparty. 
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 1:58:21 PM UTC-5 benjamin@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I’ll see you all there! I’ve got to work Saturday but I’ll make it 
>> out to the Expo on Sunday and Keystone’s partay Saturday night. My 
>> three-year-old has developed a distinct preference for the Surly Cross 
>> Check over the Atlantis and Clem but whatever the case we’ll roll up on 
>> two 
>> wheels. 
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 5:22 PM Roberta  wrote:
>>
>>> https://phillybikeexpo.com/
>>>
>>> Lots of things to do--the expo, rides, parties, coffee and meet ups.
>>>
>>> I'm going.  Who else?  I'm within walking distance to the expo (but 
>>> will be riding my Betty Foy there, because, well..., I should ride).  
>>> If 
>>> anyone needs any local assistance, please reach out via DM.  
>>>
>>> There is free bike valet parking by Neighborhood Bike works, and 
>>> donations accepted.  It's a great way to fund the community bike center.
>>>
>>> I hope to meet or see again lots of us happy Riv riders.
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Philadelphia Bike Expo March 16 - 17

[Eric Marth]

Oh and Bill too! Bill, I saw you heading to the expo on Sunday morning 
while I was having a coffee at Habitat, didn't want to shout at you though. 
Nice Atlantis!

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 9:50:05 AM UTC-4 Eric Marth wrote:

> I had a nice visit at PBE. It was great to meet Pam, Leah, Roberta and Tim 
> from here on the board! 
>
> Thanks to Tim for the Saturday night convoy to Keystone, riding bikes in 
> the woods with a train of dynamos is really something. 
>
> Here's one with the fellas from Riv and Paul R. 
>
> [image: 240313 PBE 06.jpg]
>
> On Friday, March 15, 2024 at 9:44:15 AM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> How about an informal meet at the Riv booth right after the show opens?  
>>
>> I'll be sporting a black Green Guru backpack (made with inner tubes) with 
>> a Riv triangle.  I have white hair.
>>
>> I hope to see old friends and meet new ones!
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 10:11:09 PM UTC-5 brycel...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There’s more where that came from, I can send them more easily via text. 
>>> This is more or less its current configuration[image: IMG_0031]
>>>
>>> On Mar 9, 2024, at 10:05 PM, Bryce Lackey  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> <00m0m_3DD3lNnQboh_1320MM_600x450.jpg>
>>> XL Rivendell Sam Hillborne Frameset W Extras - bicycles - by owner - 
>>> bike sale - craigslist 
>>> 
>>> philadelphia.craigslist.org 
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Here’s the ad. A couple pictures demonstrating the frame condition and 
>>> one of it all built up. 
>>>
>>> On Mar 9, 2024, at 12:18 PM, 'Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I know a guy who would love that . . . not me.  Do you have pics or a 
>>> link to the CL ad?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 3, 2024 at 8:30:46 AM UTC-5 brycel...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 For anyone extra tall coming in from out of town, I have a 62cm Sam 
 listed as a frameset w crank and seat post on CL here in Philly. If you 
 want to make a deal, I am open to offers and have all the fixings for a 
 complete build. I'll be around doing some of the local rides as well as 
 the 
 Keystone afterparty. 

 On Saturday, March 2, 2024 at 1:58:21 PM UTC-5 benjamin@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I’ll see you all there! I’ve got to work Saturday but I’ll make it out 
> to the Expo on Sunday and Keystone’s partay Saturday night. My 
> three-year-old has developed a distinct preference for the Surly Cross 
> Check over the Atlantis and Clem but whatever the case we’ll roll up on 
> two 
> wheels. 
>
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 5:22 PM Roberta  wrote:
>
>> https://phillybikeexpo.com/
>>
>> Lots of things to do--the expo, rides, parties, coffee and meet ups.
>>
>> I'm going.  Who else?  I'm within walking distance to the expo (but 
>> will be riding my Betty Foy there, because, well..., I should ride).  If 
>> anyone needs any local assistance, please reach out via DM.  
>>
>> There is free bike valet parking by Neighborhood Bike works, and 
>> donations accepted.  It's a great way to fund the community bike center.
>>
>> I hope to meet or see again lots of us happy Riv riders.
>>
>> Roberta
>>
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[RBW] Re: tektro 559 left-right adjustment screw

[George Schick]

I would think that any well stocked hardware store would carry set screws 
like that.

On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 9:59:21 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I went to adjust it on my son's Roadini today and discovered that it had 
> fallen off (probably during an off-road excursion). What's the easiest way 
> to get a replacement?
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Edelux II Headlamp Moisture - Is my light cooked?

[Peter White]

Yes. We can replace the remote switches.


On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 8:09 PM Peter Adler  wrote:

> That being the case, Collin needs to get out and ride for the next several
> days, as the last few days have been sunny and there's no rain predicted in
> Berkeley until next weekend. It's the longest dry spell we've had this year.
>
> Peter's info on the weatherproof black-boxing of the Edelux's electronics
> is useful to know. I have a couple of third-generation B Luxos U that
> definitely have symptoms of water intrusion; the remote switch of the first
> got cracked in a crash shortly before winter 2023, and it's been erratic
> since. Peter, I've been meaning to send it back for repair; do you have the
> parts to replace Luxos U switches?
>
> Peter "involuntary user of Mr. White's excellent warranty services" Adler
> Berkeley, California/USA
>
> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 5:02:53 AM UTC-7 peter...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> It's possible for water to enter the Edelux II housing, though it is not
> easy. However, the electronics inside are permanently encased in some sort
> of goop (that's a highly technical term) and will never be affected by
> water. So just keep riding and after a few days in good weather the little
> droplets will disappear.
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