[RBW] Very belated SFR 300k ride report

[Toshi Takeuchi]

About a month ago, I rode the SFR 300k event.  Prior to the 300k, I rode
the SFR 200k event and completed it successfully.  I hoped to add to my
training, but I was only able to take one ride in the weekend ~28 hilly
miles to supplement my 4-5 days of commuting during the week.

Despite the lack of long miles, I was confident that if I stuck to my plan
of taking it easy on the hills and limiting my stopping time, then I could
have a good outcome.

The 300k route is very similar to the Russian River 200k route, except the
extra 100k comes from riding from the out and back from San Francisco
towards Fairfax-Olema.  There were a few extra km in the mostly flats
around Santa Rosa too.

I had around a 10 hour 200k, so I was targeting a 10 + 6 hour =16 hour 300k.

I made my chicken sausage/egg/rice "sushi" rolls and then didn't stop at
all for food.  I took a couple quick bathroom breaks and a water break, but
the only substantial time off the bike was my two flats.

Unfortunately my rear tire picked up some steel belted tire wires that went
through my Grand Bois Hetre tire and gave it a slow flat.  These annoying
metal wires can only be removed by pliers, so it is a good idea to carry
one in your toolkit.  I have a mini leatherman tool that I have in my bike
bag.

--One thing I did notice was that my tire had some sidewall damage despite
being stored inside and the tire being relatively new.  I booted the tire
with a sticky park tire boot and continued on to the end without mishap.
I'm not sure when the tire damage happened and need to make sure to check
my tires before a long ride more carefully.

Despite the 2 flats, I finished in about 16 hours, so overall it was a good
ride in that I reached my desired goal.

I couldn't do the SFR 400k, which was yesterday, ending today, due to an
orchestra concert today.  It was a bit wet out there, so I hope everyone
who did it managed ok. Actually, a couple years ago I rode the 400k and
played in a concert the following day.  I wasn't so confident this time!

Several years ago I rode a wet 400k and finished around 23 hours (brutal!)
and did the very stupid thing of trying to drive home without taking a
nap.  I caught myself falling asleep on the drive home and could have
killed myself.  I promise to rest before going home!

I'm sure to have at least one big ride (double century or 400k) to ride
this year, but I have to juggle that with my crazy schedule.  Luckily my
daily commute is providing a good base of training for these rides.

Toshi in Oakland

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Re: [RBW] Re: 34 T cassette deraailleur clearance

[Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 6:56:15 PM UTC-7 Bernard Duhon wrote:

Thanks,  but my fancy campy rd has no ‘B” screw.


Actually, your fancy 10-speed Chorus rear derailleur does. It's just not in 
the same location as the Shimano/SRAM ones. The Campagnolo chain tension 
adjustment screw is actually on the cage itself:

(image taken from http://www.raltech.co.uk/Prod_96-Inst-RMC-Campag.html)

Here's a video  
explaining 
how to do the adjustment, but other than the location of the screw, the 
concept is the same other than any other modern derailleur.

 

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[RBW] Re: FS Clem Smith Jr L 52cm in RBW blue

[NYCbikeguy]

Located in New Haven, CT.
Can meet in NYC.


On Monday, April 15, 2024 at 12:33:57 AM UTC-4 NYCbikeguy wrote:

> PICS: 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1efdPqI-qEUd5bfXgWU_YUpgRLUqDr6R6?usp=drive_link
>
> $1800 
>
> new 10sp Deore RD
> new 10sp cassette
> used Rene Herse 171mm 40T
> used Deore hubs and Ryde Andra40 rims <100 miles
> used Thompson Elite seat post 
> used CRUST/Nitto faceplate stem
> used A.Hearne swept back handlebar
> used Avid brake levers 
> new Shimano standard V-brakes. 
> used Brooks B17 (barely broken in) 
> used cork grips 
> used leather saddle bag
> used panaracer Gravelking 650x48b (<100 miles). 
>
> I have extra accessories available upon request (paul bits, fresh monarch 
> pedals, panniers, fenders, etc.) and can help install. Shipping available 
> at buyer’s expense. Not open to trades.
>

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[RBW] FS Clem Smith Jr L 52cm in RBW blue

[NYCbikeguy]

PICS: 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1efdPqI-qEUd5bfXgWU_YUpgRLUqDr6R6?usp=drive_link

$1800 

new 10sp Deore RD
new 10sp cassette
used Rene Herse 171mm 40T
used Deore hubs and Ryde Andra40 rims <100 miles
used Thompson Elite seat post 
used CRUST/Nitto faceplate stem
used A.Hearne swept back handlebar
used Avid brake levers 
new Shimano standard V-brakes. 
used Brooks B17 (barely broken in) 
used cork grips 
used leather saddle bag
used panaracer Gravelking 650x48b (<100 miles). 

I have extra accessories available upon request (paul bits, fresh monarch 
pedals, panniers, fenders, etc.) and can help install. Shipping available 
at buyer’s expense. Not open to trades.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cantilevers or Direct Mount-Centerpulls

[Dan Sullivan]

That’s a beaut. Happy trails!

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:51:43 AM UTC-5 kyleco...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just an update - went with cantis! now i have to go buy the rest of the 
> bicycle...
>
> [image: bleriot.jpg]
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 5:12:14 PM UTC-8 Josiah Anderson wrote:
>
> I want to jump in here on one of my pet issues: "squishy" brakes are *not* 
> a problem provided they still stop well, and squish can be indicative of 
> good braking. If they feel stiff, all that means is that you don't have as 
> much mechanical advantage as you could, because of design or setup. If more 
> mechanical advantage is added, the pads and possibly the calipers WILL 
> squish, no matter what. It will feel "mushy" and there will be more power. 
> The best brakes I've ever used were v-brakes operated by short-pull levers, 
> which required very true wheels and felt extremely soft, but provided truly 
> impressive braking thanks to the high MA at both the lever and brake. That 
> was the setup that taught me that squishy brakes can be good. 
>
> Soft-feeling brakes also often allow for better modulation than a binary 
> "on-off" brake feeling. In a very stiff-feeling brake system, there is 
> minimal difference in braking power between just barely engaging the brake 
> and yanking as hard as you can, because the lever stops moving in a very 
> defined spot and no amount of force that human hands can apply will move it 
> farther, so the pads don't grip the rim any harder either. That is the 
> definition of a "stiff" feel; you can't get around that, only improve it 
> with more MA (and a softer brake feel). This means that the initial "bite" 
> needs to be very strong, which is the opposite of what I want from a brake. 
> I want to have control over exactly how much braking I get, from "very 
> little" to "STOP RIGHT NOW" and everywhere in between. Good centerpulls 
> absolutely can provide that, and the "squish" that you may feel is simply 
> the feeling of good modulation.
>
> However, if the "soft" feeling is from the caliper flexing (like Tektro 
> 559s do), that is not desirable, because the lever travel is just moving 
> the brake and not the pads. Those brakes have a relatively low MA (and low 
> usefulness as brakes) because if it were higher they would flex even worse. 
> Maybe this phenomenon is the root of the misunderstanding; if squishy 
> long-reach-sidepulls were the only soft-feeling brakes I'd experienced, 
> then I would probably shoot for stiffness too. 
>
> I hope that all makes sense and is helpful.
>
> Josiah Anderson
> Missoula MT
>
> On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 4:06:12 PM UTC-5 kyleco...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> Hey Christian thanks for all your thoughts! To answer a couple of your 
> questions:
>
> *Which CPs are you considering and what is your max tire size? *
> I was looking at the Rene Herse cps. I'd be looking to run 44's, but 42's 
> seem to be more intended for the Bleriot 
> . The Rene Herse are 
> for sure pricey, and I will be spending a bit as it is with the frame 
> builder mods. However, they state they have the clearance for 42s and 
> fenders. I have a pair of dia-compe canti's 
>  
> I love on another bicycle, so much so I put a pair on my girlfriend's 
> bicycle. On that note: @Patrick - I've gotten pretty comfy now at setting 
> up canti's with drop bars. Specifically the dia-comps. It's all about 
> getting that straddle wire set up in the right position. I have done it 
> poorly on other pairs of cantis and been called out by real mechanics haha.
>
> *Will you be using fenders? *
> Potentially. I see most of these tours happening in summer and hopefully 
> some that require a flight in the nearish future. I'd probably snag a pair 
> of SKS for easy mounting and peace of mind when flying. not so much of a 
> big deal if my plastic fenders get damaged instead of banging up a nice 
> pair of honjos!
>
> *Are you planning on mounting anything to the brake studs (racks, lights 
> etc)?*
> If I did canti's I would likely get a Nitto M12 and attach it to the 
> brakes. I do plan on having low rider pannier attachments put on for a 
> nitto s rack 
> 
> .
>
>
> Kyle
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 12:17 PM christian poppell  
> wrote:
>
> Hey Kyle! 
>
> I have used cantilevers and direct mounted centerpulls (MAFAC RAID with 
> new Rene Herse hardware). If I could do it over I would have installed 
> cantilevers. The downsides for centerpulls for me are modulation, fender 
> fitting, and braze on locations on the fork. 
>
> Modulation - The MAFAC RAID brakes feel more squishy to me, even after 
> adding a brake booster to the rear. Also, despite my best efforts, I have 
> not been able to eliminate the howling from the rear brake. I threw 
> 

RE: [RBW] Re: 34 T cassette deraailleur clearance

[Bernard Duhon]

Thanks,  but my fancy campy rd has no ‘B” screw.

I think I’ll mount the Altus.

It is only too close for comfort on the 34T
From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jim M.
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2024 7:24 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: 34 T cassette deraailleur clearance

If you want to try to make the Chorus work, you could reverse the b screw to 
add a little more reach, or you could try a Wolf Tooth Roadlink hanger 
extender. I've used the Roadlink with good results.

jim m
walnut creek ca
On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:02:47 PM UTC-7 Nick A. wrote:
Hey there Bernard. Not sure about the answer to your first question but 
shifting under load always kinda changes the situation a bit in my experience. 
As for the Altus, I'm running an 11-34 10s cassette via friction and it works a 
treat.

Happy shifting!
Nick in FC

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 5:30:52 PM UTC-4 Bernard Duhon wrote:


Brain Trust,
I have a 34 tooth 9 speed cassette recently installed.
Am friction shifting

Have a campy chorus 10 speed rear derailleur that just barely clears the 34 th 
tooth.

Bought a Shimano Altus Rd M310 in anticipation of the chorus not clearing the 
34th tooth.

Grant P said the Altus will friction to 9 sp tho designed to index 7 & 8.

Two questions


  1.  I am looking for trouble by have the Campy derailleur that barely clears 
the largest cassette?
  2.  Will the Altus provide greater clearance?.


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[RBW] Re: 34 T cassette deraailleur clearance

[Jim M.]

If you want to try to make the Chorus work, you could reverse the b screw 
to add a little more reach, or you could try a Wolf Tooth Roadlink hanger 
extender. I've used the Roadlink with good results.

jim m
walnut creek ca

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 3:02:47 PM UTC-7 Nick A. wrote:

> Hey there Bernard. Not sure about the answer to your first question but 
> shifting under load always kinda changes the situation a bit in my 
> experience. As for the Altus, I'm running an 11-34 10s cassette via 
> friction and it works a treat. 
>
> Happy shifting!
> Nick in FC
>
> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 5:30:52 PM UTC-4 Bernard Duhon wrote:
>
>>  
>>  
>> Brain Trust,
>> I have a 34 tooth 9 speed cassette recently installed.
>> Am friction shifting
>>  
>> Have a campy chorus 10 speed rear derailleur that just barely clears the 
>> 34 th tooth.
>>  
>> Bought a Shimano Altus Rd M310 in anticipation of the chorus not clearing 
>> the 34th tooth. 
>>  
>> Grant P said the Altus will friction to 9 sp tho designed to index 7 & 8.
>>  
>> Two questions
>>  
>>
>>1. I am looking for trouble by have the Campy derailleur that barely 
>>clears the largest cassette?
>>2. Will the Altus provide greater clearance?. 
>>
>>  
>>  
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Hello from Ireland

[Jay]

Hello Nick - welcome!

I would like to see photos.  Ooo, and Videos, if you don't mind, both of 
the city and countryside ;-)

Seriously though, would LOVE to see some vlogs from Ireland :-)

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 4:08:26 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Welcome! I think you are the only Irish listmember. Please post photos of 
> your rides and routes. Five or six years ago my daughter spent 10 days or 
> so in Ireland with a high school chorale group and did the usual tours by 
> coach outside of Dublin; lovely scenes. I had vague thoughts of flying out 
> with a bike at the same time to do a tour but it came to nothing.
>
> I know we have at least one Japanese listmember who posts beautiful ride 
> photos, and of course the list includes riders in all parts of the US 
> posting hugely varied scenery, but I don't know of any other European 
> members, let along another Irish one. Perhaps we had a Scottish listmember 
> a few years ago, or did he post on the iBoblist?
>
> Patrick Moore, in the cottonwood bosque along the Rio Grande in the middle 
> of the Southwestern US high desert.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 1:42 PM Nicholas A  wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> My name's Nick from Dublin, a reformed racer, proud owner of an Appaloosa 
>> with an A Homer Hilsen in the pipeline as well. I have a few other bikes in 
>> the stable as well, a couple of Mercians namely. One is in bits, and a lot 
>> of those bits are on the other. 
>>
>> Can't say I've seen a lot of Rivs in Ireland but I did chat to a guy on a 
>> lovely Quickbeam recently.
>>
>> When I got the Appaloosa first I had Albatross bars on it but have a 
>> stubby stem and 48cm Noodles on there now, I much prefer them. I guess you 
>> can take the boy outta the road but you can't take the road outta the boy. 
>>
>> Anyway, happy to be here, I've been enjoying reading everyone's posts and 
>> hope I can contribute something.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> [image: IMG_8523.jpeg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: 34 T cassette deraailleur clearance

[Nick A.]

Hey there Bernard. Not sure about the answer to your first question but 
shifting under load always kinda changes the situation a bit in my 
experience. As for the Altus, I'm running an 11-34 10s cassette via 
friction and it works a treat. 

Happy shifting!
Nick in FC

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 5:30:52 PM UTC-4 Bernard Duhon wrote:

>  
>  
> Brain Trust,
> I have a 34 tooth 9 speed cassette recently installed.
> Am friction shifting
>  
> Have a campy chorus 10 speed rear derailleur that just barely clears the 
> 34 th tooth.
>  
> Bought a Shimano Altus Rd M310 in anticipation of the chorus not clearing 
> the 34th tooth. 
>  
> Grant P said the Altus will friction to 9 sp tho designed to index 7 & 8.
>  
> Two questions
>  
>
>1. I am looking for trouble by have the Campy derailleur that barely 
>clears the largest cassette?
>2. Will the Altus provide greater clearance?. 
>
>  
>  
>

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[RBW] 34 T cassette deraailleur clearance

[Bernard Duhon]

Brain Trust,
I have a 34 tooth 9 speed cassette recently installed.
Am friction shifting

Have a campy chorus 10 speed rear derailleur that just barely clears the 34 th 
tooth.

Bought a Shimano Altus Rd M310 in anticipation of the chorus not clearing the 
34th tooth.

Grant P said the Altus will friction to 9 sp tho designed to index 7 & 8.

Two questions

1.  I am looking for trouble by have the Campy derailleur that barely 
clears the largest cassette?
2.  Will the Altus provide greater clearance?.


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Re: [RBW] Snapped Clem seat binder bolt

[Kim H.]

@Joseph -
Thank-you. 

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 12:24:59 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> The binder bolt snapped because the seatpost was too small. The bolt and 
> post need to be replaced so this doesn't happen again. 
>
> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 12:02:33 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>
>> @Joseph -
>>
>> I am referring to a Nitto seat post binder bolt that you suggested to 
>> replace the stock one on my Clem. I am seeing from your web link for a 
>> Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow Seat Post. ...or am I missing something ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:54:29 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-s65-crystal-fellow-seat-post-27-2-x-250-11031
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:26:28 AM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>>
 @Joseph -
 Do you have a specific web link for purchase ?  Silver preferably.

 Kim Hetzel.

 On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:11:18 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I've come across several 26.8-post Rivs where the stock post actually 
> seemed to be 26.7. If you're using the stocker I'd ditch it for a Nitto. 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>
> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 8:25:39 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:
>
>> Agreed, thanks for sharing the information Danny. Per suggestion by 
>> Alex W, I also will swap the bolt for a black socket cap instead of 
>> stainless. Stronger but no galling..
>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 10:39:25 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Danny -
>>> Very good to know. I thank-you for the information. I think I will 
>>> grease mine as a precaution. I'm sure that Igor appreciates it, as 
>>> well. 
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 7:22:14 PM UTC-7 Danny wrote:
>>>
 I’ve had that happen on a new Riv before.

 This is from a Riv newsletter last year:

 *Also, make sure to grease the binder bolts before you tighten them 
 down. They ship to us dry and they have a tendency to gall and not 
 tighten 
 down enough unless they're greased up.*

 -Danny


 On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 9:07 PM i  wrote:

> I was installing the seatpost on my wife’s new Clem, and could not 
> get the seatpost to stop turning. Eventually I broke the bolt.
>
> I remember I had this occur on an old Clem I had as well. 
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Re: [RBW] Snapped Clem seat binder bolt

[Joe Bernard]

The binder bolt snapped because the seatpost was too small. The bolt and 
post need to be replaced so this doesn't happen again. 

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 12:02:33 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

> @Joseph -
>
> I am referring to a Nitto seat post binder bolt that you suggested to 
> replace the stock one on my Clem. I am seeing from your web link for a 
> Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow Seat Post. ...or am I missing something ?
>
> Kim Hetzel.
> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:54:29 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-s65-crystal-fellow-seat-post-27-2-x-250-11031
>>
>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:26:28 AM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>>
>>> @Joseph -
>>> Do you have a specific web link for purchase ?  Silver preferably.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:11:18 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 I've come across several 26.8-post Rivs where the stock post actually 
 seemed to be 26.7. If you're using the stocker I'd ditch it for a Nitto. 

 Joe Bernard 

 On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 8:25:39 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:

> Agreed, thanks for sharing the information Danny. Per suggestion by 
> Alex W, I also will swap the bolt for a black socket cap instead of 
> stainless. Stronger but no galling..
> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 10:39:25 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> @Danny -
>> Very good to know. I thank-you for the information. I think I will 
>> grease mine as a precaution. I'm sure that Igor appreciates it, as well. 
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>>
>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 7:22:14 PM UTC-7 Danny wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve had that happen on a new Riv before.
>>>
>>> This is from a Riv newsletter last year:
>>>
>>> *Also, make sure to grease the binder bolts before you tighten them 
>>> down. They ship to us dry and they have a tendency to gall and not 
>>> tighten 
>>> down enough unless they're greased up.*
>>>
>>> -Danny
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 9:07 PM i  wrote:
>>>
 I was installing the seatpost on my wife’s new Clem, and could not 
 get the seatpost to stop turning. Eventually I broke the bolt.

 I remember I had this occur on an old Clem I had as well. 

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Re: [RBW] Snapped Clem seat binder bolt

[Kim H.]

@Joseph -

I am referring to a Nitto seat post binder bolt that you suggested to 
replace the stock one on my Clem. I am seeing from your web link for a 
Nitto S65 Crystal Fellow Seat Post. ...or am I missing something ?

Kim Hetzel.
On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:54:29 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-s65-crystal-fellow-seat-post-27-2-x-250-11031
>
> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:26:28 AM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:
>
>> @Joseph -
>> Do you have a specific web link for purchase ?  Silver preferably.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:11:18 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I've come across several 26.8-post Rivs where the stock post actually 
>>> seemed to be 26.7. If you're using the stocker I'd ditch it for a Nitto. 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 8:25:39 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:
>>>
 Agreed, thanks for sharing the information Danny. Per suggestion by 
 Alex W, I also will swap the bolt for a black socket cap instead of 
 stainless. Stronger but no galling..
 On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 10:39:25 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @Danny -
> Very good to know. I thank-you for the information. I think I will 
> grease mine as a precaution. I'm sure that Igor appreciates it, as well. 
>
> Kim Hetzel
>
> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 7:22:14 PM UTC-7 Danny wrote:
>
>> I’ve had that happen on a new Riv before.
>>
>> This is from a Riv newsletter last year:
>>
>> *Also, make sure to grease the binder bolts before you tighten them 
>> down. They ship to us dry and they have a tendency to gall and not 
>> tighten 
>> down enough unless they're greased up.*
>>
>> -Danny
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 9:07 PM i  wrote:
>>
>>> I was installing the seatpost on my wife’s new Clem, and could not 
>>> get the seatpost to stop turning. Eventually I broke the bolt.
>>>
>>> I remember I had this occur on an old Clem I had as well. 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Snapped Clem seat binder bolt

[Joe Bernard]

https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-s65-crystal-fellow-seat-post-27-2-x-250-11031

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:26:28 AM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

> @Joseph -
> Do you have a specific web link for purchase ?  Silver preferably.
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:11:18 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I've come across several 26.8-post Rivs where the stock post actually 
>> seemed to be 26.7. If you're using the stocker I'd ditch it for a Nitto. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>>
>> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 8:25:39 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed, thanks for sharing the information Danny. Per suggestion by Alex 
>>> W, I also will swap the bolt for a black socket cap instead of stainless. 
>>> Stronger but no galling..
>>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 10:39:25 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @Danny -
 Very good to know. I thank-you for the information. I think I will 
 grease mine as a precaution. I'm sure that Igor appreciates it, as well. 

 Kim Hetzel

 On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 7:22:14 PM UTC-7 Danny wrote:

> I’ve had that happen on a new Riv before.
>
> This is from a Riv newsletter last year:
>
> *Also, make sure to grease the binder bolts before you tighten them 
> down. They ship to us dry and they have a tendency to gall and not 
> tighten 
> down enough unless they're greased up.*
>
> -Danny
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 9:07 PM i  wrote:
>
>> I was installing the seatpost on my wife’s new Clem, and could not 
>> get the seatpost to stop turning. Eventually I broke the bolt.
>>
>> I remember I had this occur on an old Clem I had as well. 
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: NEW Silver DIA-COMPE / GRAN COMPE Centerpull Brake Roller Hangers

[Kim H.]

BUMP - $40.00, shipped in the CONUS.
Paypal payment.

Kim Hetzel.

On Friday, April 12, 2024 at 3:47:30 PM UTC-7 Kim H. wrote:

> I bought two of these DIA-COMPE / GRAN COMPE Centerpull Brake 1245 Roller 
> Hangers  directly from Alex's Cycle in Japan. They are both brand new. One 
> was installed and removed without any blemishes nor marks. The other was 
> not installed. Both are in excellent condition. They did not meet my 
> expectations with what I had in mind. 
>
>
> https://alexscycle.com/products/dia-compe-gra-compe-centerpull-brake-roller-hanger?_pos=1&_sid=ca27120ec&_ss=r
>
> $50.00, shipped in the CONUS
> Paypal payment
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
>
> [image: thumbnail_pro-tkswf6PB.jpg]
>
> [image: thumbnail_pro-no4poKKy.jpg]
>
> [image: thumbnail_20240412_154147.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Snapped Clem seat binder bolt

[Kim H.]

@Joseph -
Do you have a specific web link for purchase ?  Silver preferably.

Kim Hetzel.

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 11:11:18 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I've come across several 26.8-post Rivs where the stock post actually 
> seemed to be 26.7. If you're using the stocker I'd ditch it for a Nitto. 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>
> On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 8:25:39 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:
>
>> Agreed, thanks for sharing the information Danny. Per suggestion by Alex 
>> W, I also will swap the bolt for a black socket cap instead of stainless. 
>> Stronger but no galling..
>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 10:39:25 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> @Danny -
>>> Very good to know. I thank-you for the information. I think I will 
>>> grease mine as a precaution. I'm sure that Igor appreciates it, as well. 
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>
>>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 7:22:14 PM UTC-7 Danny wrote:
>>>
 I’ve had that happen on a new Riv before.

 This is from a Riv newsletter last year:

 *Also, make sure to grease the binder bolts before you tighten them 
 down. They ship to us dry and they have a tendency to gall and not tighten 
 down enough unless they're greased up.*

 -Danny


 On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 9:07 PM i  wrote:

> I was installing the seatpost on my wife’s new Clem, and could not get 
> the seatpost to stop turning. Eventually I broke the bolt.
>
> I remember I had this occur on an old Clem I had as well. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Snapped Clem seat binder bolt

[Joe Bernard]

I've come across several 26.8-post Rivs where the stock post actually 
seemed to be 26.7. If you're using the stocker I'd ditch it for a Nitto. 

Joe Bernard 

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 8:25:39 AM UTC-7 Igor wrote:

> Agreed, thanks for sharing the information Danny. Per suggestion by Alex 
> W, I also will swap the bolt for a black socket cap instead of stainless. 
> Stronger but no galling..
> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 10:39:25 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @Danny -
>> Very good to know. I thank-you for the information. I think I will grease 
>> mine as a precaution. I'm sure that Igor appreciates it, as well. 
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>>
>> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 7:22:14 PM UTC-7 Danny wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve had that happen on a new Riv before.
>>>
>>> This is from a Riv newsletter last year:
>>>
>>> *Also, make sure to grease the binder bolts before you tighten them 
>>> down. They ship to us dry and they have a tendency to gall and not tighten 
>>> down enough unless they're greased up.*
>>>
>>> -Danny
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 9:07 PM i  wrote:
>>>
 I was installing the seatpost on my wife’s new Clem, and could not get 
 the seatpost to stop turning. Eventually I broke the bolt.

 I remember I had this occur on an old Clem I had as well. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sam Hillborne 53cm $2500/obo

[Doug H.]

I see on Bike Insights that Rivendell made a size 52 in 2009. I don't know 
how accurate those numbers are on that website though. If the numbers are 
accurate, they show a 57 effective top tube and 650b wheels. That is a nice 
looking build with nice parts.
Doug

On Sunday, April 14, 2024 at 2:39:03 AM UTC-4 nca...@gmail.com wrote:

> Good evening John. I'm sorry to hear about your reasons for selling and 
> hope all is well, but I am very interested in this lovely Hillborne. I just 
> wanted to double-check the size on it before I commit. The listing says 
> 53cm but I can't seem to find Rivendell's dimensions on a 53cm: on their 
> site they have 51cm or 54cm. Could you please confirm if it is 54cm or 
> indeed 53cm? I have a PBH of 83.8, which puts me in a 54cm, but I'm sure a 
> 53 would be fine too.  
>
> All the best,
> Robert 
>
> On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 9:13:42 AM UTC-4 johnb wrote:
>
>> Due to a progressive medical issue, my beloved Rivs have to go. First up, 
>> a 53cm Sam Hillborne that includes:
>>
>>- New Albion cranks 46/30
>>- Paul brake levers
>>- Tektro brakes
>>- Hand built (velocity/Velo Orange) wheels/Rene Herse 48 tires
>>- 9-speed cassette
>>- Acera derailleur 
>>- Cambium Special Edition C-17 with orange rivets
>>- Albatross handlebars 
>>- Paul thumbies 
>>
>> Will be professionally packed by bike shop. Next up, 51cm Atlantis
>>
>> Photos: https://share.icloud.com/photos/075HDkT5H9Rkyy65vqo4lel2w
>>
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Re: [RBW] Snapped Clem seat binder bolt

[Igor]

Agreed, thanks for sharing the information Danny. Per suggestion by Alex W, 
I also will swap the bolt for a black socket cap instead of stainless. 
Stronger but no galling..
On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 10:39:25 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Danny -
> Very good to know. I thank-you for the information. I think I will grease 
> mine as a precaution. I'm sure that Igor appreciates it, as well. 
>
> Kim Hetzel
>
> On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 7:22:14 PM UTC-7 Danny wrote:
>
>> I’ve had that happen on a new Riv before.
>>
>> This is from a Riv newsletter last year:
>>
>> *Also, make sure to grease the binder bolts before you tighten them down. 
>> They ship to us dry and they have a tendency to gall and not tighten down 
>> enough unless they're greased up.*
>>
>> -Danny
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 9:07 PM i  wrote:
>>
>>> I was installing the seatpost on my wife’s new Clem, and could not get 
>>> the seatpost to stop turning. Eventually I broke the bolt.
>>>
>>> I remember I had this occur on an old Clem I had as well. 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Seven Speed Hubs

[Ryan]

Yes...they are good-looking hubs. Did you buy them?

On Friday, April 12, 2024 at 6:48:19 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> [image: R0005110.jpeg]Yes, these are really, really nice. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sam Hillborne 53cm $2500/obo

[Robert Calton]

Good evening John. I'm sorry to hear about your reasons for selling and 
hope all is well, but I am very interested in this lovely Hillborne. I just 
wanted to double-check the size on it before I commit. The listing says 
53cm but I can't seem to find Rivendell's dimensions on a 53cm: on their 
site they have 51cm or 54cm. Could you please confirm if it is 54cm or 
indeed 53cm? I have a PBH of 83.8, which puts me in a 54cm, but I'm sure a 
53 would be fine too.  

All the best,
Robert 

On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 9:13:42 AM UTC-4 johnb wrote:

> Due to a progressive medical issue, my beloved Rivs have to go. First up, 
> a 53cm Sam Hillborne that includes:
>
>- New Albion cranks 46/30
>- Paul brake levers
>- Tektro brakes
>- Hand built (velocity/Velo Orange) wheels/Rene Herse 48 tires
>- 9-speed cassette
>- Acera derailleur 
>- Cambium Special Edition C-17 with orange rivets
>- Albatross handlebars 
>- Paul thumbies 
>
> Will be professionally packed by bike shop. Next up, 51cm Atlantis
>
> Photos: https://share.icloud.com/photos/075HDkT5H9Rkyy65vqo4lel2w
>

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[RBW] Re: 5 Boro Bike Tour (was NYC Riv Ride?)

[Ben Cullen]

Pam you made riding from the airport sound so simple, I had to streetview 
it. Now I have to try it! 

The tour is on my bucket list as well. 

Ben from Guelph

On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 10:18:47 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

>
> NYC is great to ride.  I just got back from being there 9 days.  Here are 
> my routes .  I flew into LGA 
> and unboxed my bike in baggage claim and rode from there.  Exit Terminal B 
> and turn L down the sidewalk towards the parking deck and then cross the 
> street to 96th.  I rode through Queens across the Queensborogh Bridge to 
> Manhattan.  I didn't go to the Bronx or Staten Island but I rode the other 
> 3 boroughs solo.  Have a blast!   Photo is at Central Park.  [image: 
> centralpark1.jpg]
> On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 10:48:54 AM UTC-4 Brady Smith wrote:
>
>> I used to live in Fort Lee, and it was the prospect of commuting across 
>> the GWB down to Chelsea and back each day that got me into cycling. 
>>
>> We moved to Utah mid-pandemic and went back to NYC for the first time 
>> last week. I rented a road bike from Bicycle Habitat and did the classic 
>> Bear Mountain route. It was all great, but I'd forgotten how much I loved 
>> exploring Manhattan on a bike. I never did the Five Boro tour, but it looks 
>> like a blast. 
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>> Brady in SLC
>>
>> On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 11:51:14 AM UTC-6 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My wife and I signed up for the tour and will be there! We even payed an 
>>> extra cost to be in the first wave of riders. I'll be riding my mustard 
>>> colored Appaloosa (I might even rock my tweed saddlebag) and my wife will 
>>> be on her extra-small orange Salsa Vaya. I'll be on the lookout for other 
>>> Rivendell riders other than my main man, Eben Weiss: 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_9Pj_AD3A
>>>
>>> Say hi if you see us! 
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 10:05:33 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>>>
 The 5 Boro Bike Tour in NYC has been on my bucket list for years, and I 
 decided this year is the year. First Sunday of May (5/5 this year).
 https://www.bike.nyc/events/td-five-boro-bike-tour/
 Registration opened this week, and I signed up.
 I've got my lodging and flight booked as well.

 This will be my first trip to NYC since I was a kid, 50 years ago. I 
 won't be bringing my Riv (Bringing the Ritchey Breakaway), but I'll be 
 there for a week, staying in midtown not far from ride start. 
 I'd love to meet up with others while I'm there, get recommendations on 
 where to ride, cheap food, coffee, bike shops, etc.

 Anyone else here doing the ride?

 Mike M

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne Caliper vs Canti

[Ben Cullen]

Would also love to know this exact question! Did you ever find out? 

On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 2:08:59 AM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> How much more tire and fender clearance does the Canti version have 
> compared to say a Paul Racer side pull ? 

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[RBW] WTB Atlantis 53cm, Homer 54.5cm, frame or complete

[Robert Calton]

Looking for an Atlantis in 53cm or Homer in 54.5cm, frame or complete. I'm 
in the Boston metro or I'll cover shipping. 

Thank you for your time and consideration. :) 

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[RBW] Re: 5 Boro Bike Tour (was NYC Riv Ride?)

[Roy Summer]

Did it once. That was enough. Verrazano was tough at end. Lots of crazies. 
Right of passage for any rider. Remember, it’s a ride not a race. Bring 
extra tubes. Be prepared for rain and chilly weather (My daughter and I 
rode in the wet. Not fun). Ride defensively. Enjoy the sights. As a New 
Yorker, I can say it’s the fastest I’ve ever gone on the BQE (Brooklyn 
Queens Expressway). Have fun.

On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 1:51:14 PM UTC-4 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My wife and I signed up for the tour and will be there! We even payed an 
> extra cost to be in the first wave of riders. I'll be riding my mustard 
> colored Appaloosa (I might even rock my tweed saddlebag) and my wife will 
> be on her extra-small orange Salsa Vaya. I'll be on the lookout for other 
> Rivendell riders other than my main man, Eben Weiss: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_9Pj_AD3A
>
> Say hi if you see us! 
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 10:05:33 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>
>> The 5 Boro Bike Tour in NYC has been on my bucket list for years, and I 
>> decided this year is the year. First Sunday of May (5/5 this year).
>> https://www.bike.nyc/events/td-five-boro-bike-tour/
>> Registration opened this week, and I signed up.
>> I've got my lodging and flight booked as well.
>>
>> This will be my first trip to NYC since I was a kid, 50 years ago. I 
>> won't be bringing my Riv (Bringing the Ritchey Breakaway), but I'll be 
>> there for a week, staying in midtown not far from ride start. 
>> I'd love to meet up with others while I'm there, get recommendations on 
>> where to ride, cheap food, coffee, bike shops, etc.
>>
>> Anyone else here doing the ride?
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Soliciting opinions: help me pick the right Rivendell

[Greg Sonstein]

There is a lot of overlap in the Riv lineup. Most bikes can handle any 
road, paved or gravel, even the Roadini (though I would not buy it for off 
roading, it will take a 42mm tire which is plenty big for going on dirt). 
The Homers, Sams are more roadie than the Appaloosa, Atlantis and Platypus 
but can also easily go off road and take racks, fenders, and carry a decent 
load. The only difference between the Sams and Homers is really the brakes 
(v brakes/canti v. caliper/centerpull). Sams take a slightly larger tire, 
maybe 50mm over 48mm for the Homer. If you really want one bike to rule 
them all, I would get the Appaloosa or Atlantis, they are the same bike, 
take big tires (55mm), take heavy loads. Most people will not even notice 
the difference in the weight or stiffness. Also the longer chainstays make 
the ride more plush. Platy is just as useful and comfortable but the design 
is not for everyone. Clem is basically a cheaper Susie. Also the colors 
change every year so this years Apps will not be tbhe same as last year. 

   - February - Clems
   - March - Lugged Susies - kind of a new model
   - April - Roaduno bikes and frames - new model
   - May - Sam Hillbornes
   - June - Appaloosas
   - July - Platypus bikes and frames
   - August - Charlie Gallop, nu model, bikes and frames, more info later
   - September - Roadini


On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 12:27:53 AM UTC-7 jkg...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi, Bud, 
>
> I'm sure this has been posted at some point in the past, but I stumbled 
> upon this the other day and thought it might be of interest both to you and 
> others on this thread.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx83uMhIgKA
>
> Otherwise, for what it's worth, I think the suggestions above are great.  
> Based on your intended use, I would agree with those who suggest the 
> Hilborne.  Don't have one, but had the good fortune to ride one for several 
> weeks -- thanks, again, Max! -- and loved it.  If I had to downsize from my 
> Homer and my Atlantis to a single bike that would suit the purposes they 
> serve for me — long road rides, commutes, on and off road, etc. -- it would 
> be my choice.
>
> Best,
> jason
>
> On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 4:32:53 AM UTC+2 Erik wrote:
>
>> Evening, 
>>
>> Based on the parameters and details you provided, I think that a 
>> Hillborne or Appaloosa would work well.  Or an Atlantis instead of the 
>> Appaloosa.  I have all three, all set up very differently, but each has 
>> gone through a lot of iterations.  The key for me would be what type of 
>> trails you are wanting to ride, your size, and trail riding style.  The 
>> Hillborne is a great bike, fun on the road and pretty nimble on the trail. 
>>  The Hillborne has a smaller tire width max and lighter tubes.  The 
>> Appaloosa or the Atlantis are longer and have stouter tubes.  They also 
>> take up to a 2.2 tire.  I've run both as primarily trail bikes and they 
>> handled pretty much anything I wanted to ride except for the most extreme 
>> trails in my local parks.  They work really well as trail bikes.  I've run 
>> them with 1x 11 (50 large cog) set ups, 3 x 9  with 11-34 cassettes, and 
>> now as 2x.  I live in northern California and do a lot of climbing.  The 
>> gearing has always been fantastic.  My Appaloosa was my primary commuting 
>> bike for about five years.
>>
>> Here's my Instagram if you want to get a look at some of the set ups that 
>> I've used over the years.  It's mostly bikes: 
>> https://www.instagram.com/lith.o.carp.us/
>>
>> Hope that helps!
>>
>> Erik
>>
>> On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 5:43:49 PM UTC-7 Bud Suttree wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> With all that said, of the current offerings, what would y’all recommend? 
>>
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Soliciting opinions: help me pick the right Rivendell

[Roy Summer]

First, I would love to buy your Ciocc if it was a 52-54 and I didn’t 
already have 5 bikes I ride and 1 to sell (1994/5 Bontrager rebuilt for 
road). Second, although I don’t own a Riv, I do own a mostly original X0-1 
(the precursor to all Rivs). It seems to be the best all around choice as 
it works for fast road riding as well as longer, hillier rides. I think the 
moustache bars combined with lighter road tires (I use Michelins that are 
no longer available, but read on for a suggestion) work really well (other 
bikes are drop bars and I often think X0-1 is best). So, my suggestion 
would be an Appaloosa or Atlantis with Albastache bars, gearing of your 
choice, and, if possible 26” wheels with Panaracer Pasela Protite 26x1.25 
folding tires (light; flat resistant; fast on the road; wide enough for 
light off road/gravel; daughter rides them in NYC). And, yes, I understand 
the color issue and the dual top tube thing. Finally, strip the RB-1. It’s 
not safe. And if you want my Bontrager we can talk (but it won’t fit you 
and your Ciocc won’t fit me, so what’s the use).
On Friday, April 5, 2024 at 8:55:08 PM UTC-4 aeroperf wrote:

> Get a Sam with a 3x9 drive.
> Strong enough to do the riding you want, versatile enough for errands and 
> light touring, and very comfortable.
>
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