Re: [RBW] silver shifter slip under load
Maybe add a little blue loctite or beeswax to the bolts. Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 2:09:27 PM UTC-7, Sam Perez wrote: > > It's the original silver shifters , they were in storage and not used > untill now. The washers seem okay but I'll look into the new ones . > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2020, 8:56 AM Jay Lonner > > wrote: > >> Are these OG Silvers or Silver Mk II? I several sets of the originals >> (and the the Suntour Sprints they were based on) and the weak point in the >> system is the little plastic washer that sits right under the bolt. If >> that’s cracked or missing you won’t be able to snug things down enough. >> Luckily Riv sells (or used to sell, haven’t checked recently) replacements >> that appear to be made of a more durable material. >> >> Jay Lonner >> Bellingham, WA >> >> Sent from my Atari 400 >> >> On Oct 6, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Sam Perez > >> wrote: >> >> >> hi guys, how do you keep your silver shifters form slipping under load, i >> tighten the retention bolt but when i play with it it slowly loosens with >> multiple shifts, i do lots of hills and need confidence that i wont ghost >> shift under load. >> >> thanks >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAJN34zkhXhsXVh9YiLKsT-Sbg4MBmqcEHh1%3DLTXqNZK_KcQWvw%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CAJN34zkhXhsXVh9YiLKsT-Sbg4MBmqcEHh1%3DLTXqNZK_KcQWvw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/56E447B7-4828-41AF-A43B-A435EBE8E5EB%40gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/56E447B7-4828-41AF-A43B-A435EBE8E5EB%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/bc12fd15-60ec-404e-8d8f-cf3c67cd6db5o%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Fixed gear dropouts and fenders
New wheel with Phil Wood hub. Screws unscrew all the way and the wheel drops out or do what Bones suggests. Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 4:04:59 PM UTC-7, Erik Wright wrote: > > Hey all, > > Speaking to the Simple One / Quickbeam owners out there (or anyone else > with this experience)- is there a trick to rear wheel removal with > rear-facing horizontal dropouts when you have fenders mounted? I recently > set up a Mercier Kilo WT as my city bike, which is basically a track bike > with clearance for big tires and fenders. I'm running 700x35 tires with SKS > P50 (or 45?) fenders. > > Once I got my fenders mounted, I realized I can't easily get the rear > wheel out without deflating the tire. I know VO makes the "spring thing" > for addressing fender alignment with forward-facing horizontal dropouts, > but is there any trick to getting a good fender line with rear-facing > dropouts while also being able to easily remove the wheel? Almost like the > rear equivalent of a spring thing... > > Erik, Philly > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/95082bcc-e095-4261-8d1c-7fcf09313a48o%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: 60 cm Quickbeam on CL Sacramento
It is on ebay now and is indeed a rebadged SimpleOne. https://www.ebay.com/itm/193657006545?ViewItem==193657006545 CS, HBG, CA On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 10:55:46 AM UTC-7, Clayton Scott wrote: > > Almost looks like a re-badged SimpleOne. > > On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 10:48:20 AM UTC-7, Clayton Scott wrote: >> >> Rear brazed canti hanger seems to be missing too and the brake bridge >> seems different as well with the tapped fender mount eyelet unless the >> orange version was different. >> >> Clayton Scott >> HBG, CA >> >> On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 8:36:39 AM UTC-7, Justin Drake wrote: >>> >>> >>> https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/d/citrus-heights-60cm-rivendell-quickbeam/7193041886.html >>> >>> Somebody should snatch it up before I do. >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d0c5939f-271b-49ab-b916-4ca81d3ae6b2o%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: 60 cm Quickbeam on CL Sacramento
Almost looks like a re-badged SimpleOne. On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 10:48:20 AM UTC-7, Clayton Scott wrote: > > Rear brazed canti hanger seems to be missing too and the brake bridge > seems different as well with the tapped fender mount eyelet unless the > orange version was different. > > Clayton Scott > HBG, CA > > On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 8:36:39 AM UTC-7, Justin Drake wrote: >> >> >> https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/d/citrus-heights-60cm-rivendell-quickbeam/7193041886.html >> >> Somebody should snatch it up before I do. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e28d9cc2-fa78-4ac4-adc8-fe432141a32bo%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: 60 cm Quickbeam on CL Sacramento
Rear brazed canti hanger seems to be missing too and the brake bridge seems different as well with the tapped fender mount eyelet unless the orange version was different. Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 8:36:39 AM UTC-7, Justin Drake wrote: > > > https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/d/citrus-heights-60cm-rivendell-quickbeam/7193041886.html > > Somebody should snatch it up before I do. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/44d1fba1-7a43-4068-a5db-290fe5a163fco%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB
Phil wood hubs are your friend if you use febders with horizontal dropouts. You can remove the bolt all the way and the wheel just drops out. Clayton Scott HBG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e811df36-10b2-41c1-95ce-366f39abfad7o%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Needing front rack advice
Nitto 34F (big front rack) worked well on the 52 Clem H (most recent generation) I used to own. Not sure if your Clem L differs in fork geo though. Best, Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Dave Redmon wrote: > > I have a Clem L 52cm/650B and am searching for a front rack to carry > panniers. Anyone know what fits? I've tried a Tubus Tara but it slopes too > far forward. > > Dave in Kansas > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/744d8625-e77c-4cee-bb1d-563fa6ffe515o%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Cantilever brake recommendations
I really like the Campagnolo cantis from a few years ago (made by Tektro I believe). They are no longer made but come up occasionally. I have 2 pairs and got both for around $80 dollars a while back. Here is what they look like: https://www.evanscycles.com/campagnolo-cx-cantilever-brakes-EV153864 Besides them, most Shimano cantis I tried have been good. If you believe that "harder is better" I recommend some Empella froglegs. They allow you to waste and exorbitant amount of time and still likely won't stop your bike. Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 7:57:01 AM UTC-7, Joel Stern wrote: > > I don’t think I need to go with V brakes (smack me if I am wrong), and I > an unwilling to buy Paul’s due to price. I got a recommendation on Velo > orange grand cru at $145 a set. > > Ant thoughts on what to use on an Appaloosa or Atlantis? > > If I use cantis I have a nice NOS set of Suntour levers, with V’s I start > from scratch. > > Thanks > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c5cbd0b8-a864-49c9-9c45-10790ff51942o%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Brooks Brown v. Black
I prefer black on this one. Clayton Scott On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 2:00:15 PM UTC-7, Matthew Williams wrote: > > I'm considering swapping my existing brown Brooks saddle and grips for a > black set. I made a layered Photoshop file so I could review the colors on > the bike. > > > Just curious, what you folks think. > > > [image: bike_existing.jpg] > > [image: bike_black.jpg] > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/4304633e-1fea-4d29-9152-8025f5ccc771o%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Rene Herse Fender Install for QB
Not sure if it matters, but you would not need a power drill. The aluminum fenders are fairly soft. A hammer and punch or even sharp nail and a hand reamer will be sufficient for the holes. Here the a similar reamer to the one I use: https://www.harborfreight.com/t-handle-reamer-66936.html?cid=paid_google|||66936_source=google_medium=cpc_campaign=_content==CjwKCAjw5vz2BRAtEiwAbcVIL1GFqSHOzVIUOm0tyo2HBV8Hm29UvrBsIqHaIleP61p1Cb8943NAZxoCPhUQAvD_BwE The installation process may look a bit daunting but it is a fairly straight forward operation. There is a BQ that has a tutorial in it. Would be happy to scan and send them to you. Clayton Scott. On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 3:26:56 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > These are on the list to do in the near future. However, if I have to get > into metal drilling or cutting, I'm going to need to make arrangements for > someone to help/do the install. > > What non-standard issues will I run into installing these: > > https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/fenders/rene-herse-smooth-fenders-700c-for-48-52-mm-tires-h80-700c/ > on a 66cm silver (final run) QB? > > With abandon, > Patrick > > www.MindYourHeadCoop.org > www.DeaconPatrick.org > www.CatholicHalos.org > www.ShepherdsandHalos.org > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/061d572e-65a8-4d5e-b707-828bdcac6812o%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!
Not sure about it either. I think the cables make the tubes look wider in the pictures which may contribute to that "something is off" look. Might still grow on me though. Clayton Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a7347c56-fc98-4dff-8ea1-913df44e3734o%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Rec's for trailer hitch bike rack for 5 bikes
That Recon actually looks like it would have none of the issues I mentioned. Went through 3 rack purchases over the years and somehow this company never made it on my radar. Clayton Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ffcd23a5-c3d4-4a4d-8b63-b10ecd7e5f6bo%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Rec's for trailer hitch bike rack for 5 bikes
They do exist. However, even my 4 bike hitch rack (Thule) is really more of a 2 bike rack. Stacking 5 bikes on 5 bike rack might be quite a challenge if it is spaced similarly to mine. In addition the bikes tend to rub against each other unless you really "pack" them well which is time consuming. If I was in the market for a bike transport solution for 5 bikes I'd probably start looking at trailers instead. Or get a roof rack in addition. Clayton Scott HBG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d5e52a05-5483-495e-9a70-ee5b4058402eo%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Rivendell model names?
A henry rollins bike with 2pac panniers. Cshbgca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1e323a3b-705c-4ef4-b912-7fac6de309c8o%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Favorite Rivendell model names?
\m/ Also agree on the Roadini. It just sounds "little" to me. Clayton Scott, HBG, CA On Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 2:35:40 PM UTC-7, Collin A wrote: > > Clayton, that might be a bit too Metal for Riv. > > Fav: Hunqapillar, clever, and it is a bike I have lusted for as long as I > have been aware of Riv. Still kicking myself for not picking one of the > demos up when they were on sale. > Close Second: Wolbis/Susie, mostly for the headbadge of the slug and a > long bolt. > > Least Favorite: Leo Roadini, can't quite tell why, though... > > Cheers, > Collin in Sac > > On Thursday, June 4, 2020 at 2:03:33 PM UTC-7, Clayton Scott wrote: >> >> I like Cheviot. Those sheep are amazingly tough. >> >> Would love to see the new Chev be called Hebridean. >> >> >> >> >> Clayton Scott >> HBG, CA >> >> >> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 7:17:21 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: >>> >>> Or, “Let’s Fight About Something On Topic!” >>> >>> Let’s hear your most and least favorite Rivendell model names. No name >>> calling, even about the names. >>> >>> What is your favorite Rivendell model name? Mine is Legolas. It’s real >>> hard to separate out the bike itself from the name for me. For example, I >>> don’t like the Sam Hillborn name, but that might be because it sounded like >>> a downmarket A. Homer Hilsen. On the other hand, I LOVE the name Platypus, >>> and want one of those bikes no matter what it looks like! >>> >>> Hunqapillar - how genius is that?! >>> Wolbis Slugstone, though? My least favorite, in a walk. >>> >>> I only ask because I found this anonymous poll about Rivendell model >>> names: https://forms.gle/FEf5TeFkr4fZQdxEA >>> >>> Philip >>> Santa Rosa, CA >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7269b3e2-1dfe-44cd-8143-353a1641b030o%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Shorts similar to Riv MUSA
Goruck short work well too. Wait for a sale though. Cshbgca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d9057021-f14d-484c-95c6-b636f8c05191%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Will Mini Motos fit a MTB tire?
No. Clayton Scott HbG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a7ebbdec-1eb1-4911-a076-6c443d2f123b%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Handlebar suggestions for Gus\Susie
Tumbleweed persuader bars. Best MTB bars I ever laid my hands on. They replaced the Jones bars on my Jones. Clayton Scott HbG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/81ce0bfb-4fff-45a9-ac3d-33a1df981938%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Brake lever preference with Nitto Noodles
Agree that there bar lever combinations also much depend on bars. I found the noodle to be less sensitive to brake lever choice as they have fairly long ramps to rest your hands on. Shorter reach bars like the Salsa Cowchipper (my favorite drop over the past 2 years) are more sensitive to brake lever hoods as you usually rest your hands at least partially on the hoods. I very much prefer blocky, campy-esque hoods on those, on the noodles I seem fine with a greater diversity of levers. Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:13:08 AM UTC-7, George Schick wrote: > > Part of the comfort issue here may be the bars themselves. One of my road > bikes is set up with noodle bars and Shimano 600 brake levers. I find this > combo to be "reasonably" comfortable - the bars are hawked as having "flat > ramps," i.e., smooth transition from the top of the bend onto the brake > lever hoods. And they pretty much do, but they also have this minor > "upsweep" where the bar makes its turn from the flats to the hooks that I > find kind of irritating. > > Far and away the most comfortable bars I've ever used are the Ritchey > Bio-Max. The have absolutely flat "flats" and after the bars make the turn > toward the hooks they are perfectly flat so there is a very straight > transition to the brake levers. My other road bike has these coupled with > the Tektro levers and I love it. But there are three problems with these > bars: 1) they are no longer made (though they may be found on eBay in > various widths), 2) they were only made with a black anodized finish, and > 3) most importantly, they can't be used with standard quill stems because > the turn from the flat part of the top of the hook to the bottom of the > hook is so sharp that a quill stem cannot be passed through it without > spreading the stem mounting jaws, a dangerous thing to do. The only way > around this was to either find a quill stem with a bolt-on bar mount or use > a threadless steering tube adapter and a threadless stem. > > > On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 9:45:55 AM UTC-5, Erik Wright wrote: >> >> Howdy, >> >> I have a Roadini set up with 46cm Noodles. I'm using 9spd 105 brifters >> that I took off my old road bike, and I'm struggling to dial in the feel of >> the hoods. This is partially due to the lever / hood design (pretty boxy >> and bulky, don't like it that much), but I also can't work out the bar to >> hood transition, if that makes sense. I'd like a smooth transition from the >> top of the bar into the hood position of the lever, in effect creating a >> feel of the bullhorn handlebar. After many micro adjustments, I just can't >> get that with this lever/bar combo. Either the levers feel too close and >> create a harsh/abrupt transition to the hoods, or they're too far below the >> bend for my liking. >> >> I figured I'd switch to downtube shifters and go with the Tiagra BL-R400 >> that >> Riv sells >> <https://www.rivbike.com/collections/braking/products/shimano-tiagra-road-brake-levers-15091> >> >> and uses on most of their bikes, but wanted to check in and see if anyone >> here has a different lever that they *love* with Noodles. Brakes are >> Paul Racers, if that's a factor. >> >> Let's hear 'em! >> >> Erik, Philly >> >> p.s. Riv's out of stock with those Tiagra levers so if you have some in >> your bin that you'd like to get rid of, consider this a low key WTB post. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3a1d3257-26a0-4086-b587-90bc4aa1cd94%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Looking for a zero offset Thomson seatpost
I think I do. It would be black though. PM me your contact if of interest. Clayton Scott HbG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ef1c4a01-a504-4263-87a0-73f271d78d83%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.
Eamon, What stem length and which upright bars would you run on the 59 Atlantis? What top tube length and stem length would you need on an Atlantis to run Noodles? Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 6:15:20 PM UTC-7, Eamon Nordquist wrote: > > Clayton, most people I know, if changing from drops to upright bars on the > same bike, would use a longer stem for the uprights. That’s not an > emotional decision. For myself, if on a 59 Atlantis with its 64cm top tube, > I’m not running anything but upright bars on it. I bet it’s great too, but > it’s not an emotional decision that I wouldn’t want drops on that bike, > especially my bar if choice - noodles. Maybe bars like the one James from > Analog showed, but they are personally an aesthetic and ergonomic > abomination to ME. I fully understand many people like them. > > Eamon > Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/bcdfd9da-64e6-48a3-9c54-140d9d1b4126%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.
One more observation. People accept and love handlebars like Bosco, Losco, Jones and Albas. These bars often put your hands behind the steertube/steering axis. But, the same people throw their hands in the air over sub 40mm stems paired with drops that usually (unless you reverse the stem!) place the hands still well ahead of the steertube/steering axis. Going from drops to upright bars *on the same bike is* rarely seen as crazy, but using a 0 offset stem with drops will at least start at least a conversation with most bike people, even though it is a far less extreme change. Likely emotion/tradition still governs a lot of the component dimension choices. Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 3:05:32 PM UTC-7, Clayton Scott wrote: > > Hi Patrick, > > This will all sound a little vague and I am likely not describing it > perfectly but here it goes: > > To answer the question about how handling changes with shorter stem: > Personally I don't think it affects handling much *as long as it works > within the overall bike bike/rider system*. > > Rather than absolute component lengths and standardized fit across any > bike, I seem to like *contact points in a certain place relative to each > other and relative to whole bicycle* and its intended purpose. If I aimed > for the exact absolute position on my Jones plus as my road bike one of the > two would likely end up handling terribly. If I were to put a 30mm stem on > my road bike but leave everything else as is it would end up feeling > cramped. > > The whole bike and rider system has its sweet spots that vary from bike to > bike and rider to rider. My Jones has 800mm bars and my hands end up in > line with streer tube. bars are higher relative to saddle putting less > weight on my hands and allowing me to be well behind the front wheel on > steep descents. saddle to bar distance is short enough that it is easy to > weight the rear or front wheel by just shifting my body around. I move > around a lot on it. My rando bike is more stretched out. I don't shift > around as much, bars are lower and hands end up well ahead of the > steertube. Cross bike it a bit more compact with bars higher and hoods > higher for steeper descents and so on. I am comfortable with a range of > different positions across different bikes (within reason) but on each bike > I picky about my contact points. > > Despite the significant bike to bike differences each bike handles > superbly for me and all of them are comfortable for long rides across > intended terrain. > > Hope this helps some. > > Clayton Scott > HBG, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 1:41:26 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> How do such short stems affect the handling of the Atlantis? I use stems >> on my Riv Roads that are short by conventional standards -- 8 cm, and I >> absolutely insist on drop bars with sufficiently long ramps (but >> short-hooded Shimano aero levers and not the very long brifter levers), and >> insist on a bar no higher than level with saddle, so no very short reach >> bar will do. To make up for a very long top tube with a very short stem and >> stubby bar sounds rather makeshift, but I am happy to be proved wrong. >> >> Clayton: I was going to ask, "Please elaborate" and then I saw that you >> did in a subsquent post. My question remains: How does such a short stem >> and bar affect handling if you like your drop bar relatively low -- again, >> no more high than level with saddle. >> >> That said, I've converted several long-top-tube "NORBA-type" mountain >> bikes to drop bars with longish ramps -- Noodle, for example -- using stems >> with short effective reach; for example, Tioga T-Bone upjutters or a 10 cm >> Dirt Drop for example to make 58.5 cm tts match the 56.5-57s on my road >> bikes; these conversions worked well. But I gather that the new Atlantis >> has a more-than-NORBA-length top tube, and I wonder how well you can really >> get it to work with a normal-shape drop bar level with or lower than saddle. >> >> And of course there is nothing at all wrong with sweep-back bars, but I >> wonder how well a frame designed for those will work in the real world with >> drop bars level with etc. >> >> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 7:21 AM James / Analog Cycles < >> analog...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> New MIT Atlantis frames worth fine with shorter reach drop bars and 30mm >>> or 0mm stems. No need to size down. -James / Analog Cycles / Discord >>> Components / Etc etc >>> https://www.instagram.com/p/Bk8H2AKhPiD/ >&
Re: [RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.
One more observation. People accept and love handlebars like Bosco, Losco, Jones and Albas that put your hands behind the steertube/steering axis, but throw their hands in the air over sub 40mm stems paired with drops that place the hands still well ahead of the steertube/steering axis. Likely emotion/tradition still governs a lot of the component dimension choices. Clayton Scott HBG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5e1e26ac-8920-48e1-a92c-3ff5542b608d%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.
Hi Patrick, This will all sound a little vague and I am likely not describing it perfectly but here it goes: To answer the question about how handling changes with shorter stem: Personally I don't think it affects handling much *as long as it works within the overall bike bike/rider system*. Rather than absolute component lengths and standardized fit across any bike, I seem to like *contact points in a certain place relative to each other and relative to whole bicycle* and its intended purpose. If I aimed for the exact absolute position on my Jones plus as my road bike one of the two would likely end up handling terribly. If I were to put a 30mm stem on my road bike but leave everything else as is it would end up feeling cramped. The whole bike and rider system has its sweet spots that vary from bike to bike and rider to rider. My Jones has 800mm bars and my hands end up in line with streer tube. bars are higher relative to saddle putting less weight on my hands and allowing me to be well behind the front wheel on steep descents. saddle to bar distance is short enough that it is easy to weight the rear or front wheel by just shifting my body around. I move around a lot on it. My rando bike is more stretched out. I don't shift around as much, bars are lower and hands end up well ahead of the steertube. Cross bike it a bit more compact with bars higher and hoods higher for steeper descents and so on. I am comfortable with a range of different positions across different bikes (within reason) but on each bike I picky about my contact points. Despite the significant bike to bike differences each bike handles superbly for me and all of them are comfortable for long rides across intended terrain. Hope this helps some. Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 1:41:26 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > How do such short stems affect the handling of the Atlantis? I use stems > on my Riv Roads that are short by conventional standards -- 8 cm, and I > absolutely insist on drop bars with sufficiently long ramps (but > short-hooded Shimano aero levers and not the very long brifter levers), and > insist on a bar no higher than level with saddle, so no very short reach > bar will do. To make up for a very long top tube with a very short stem and > stubby bar sounds rather makeshift, but I am happy to be proved wrong. > > Clayton: I was going to ask, "Please elaborate" and then I saw that you > did in a subsquent post. My question remains: How does such a short stem > and bar affect handling if you like your drop bar relatively low -- again, > no more high than level with saddle. > > That said, I've converted several long-top-tube "NORBA-type" mountain > bikes to drop bars with longish ramps -- Noodle, for example -- using stems > with short effective reach; for example, Tioga T-Bone upjutters or a 10 cm > Dirt Drop for example to make 58.5 cm tts match the 56.5-57s on my road > bikes; these conversions worked well. But I gather that the new Atlantis > has a more-than-NORBA-length top tube, and I wonder how well you can really > get it to work with a normal-shape drop bar level with or lower than saddle. > > And of course there is nothing at all wrong with sweep-back bars, but I > wonder how well a frame designed for those will work in the real world with > drop bars level with etc. > > On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 7:21 AM James / Analog Cycles > wrote: > >> New MIT Atlantis frames worth fine with shorter reach drop bars and 30mm >> or 0mm stems. No need to size down. -James / Analog Cycles / Discord >> Components / Etc etc >> https://www.instagram.com/p/Bk8H2AKhPiD/ >> >> [image: DSC07236-1.jpg] >> >> >> On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 10:56:07 PM UTC-4, Eamon Nordquist wrote: >>> >>> The newest MIT Atlantis models do seem to have gotten even longer than >>> the first round. I personally wouldn’t be able to fit dropbars to one >>> without it going a size too small, and having way more stem and seat post >>> than I would be happy with (short stem notwithstanding). I do hope the new >>> Hillbornes haven’t gotten longer. The roster is pretty chock full of long >>> bikes. Could be what others want, though. Who knows? >>> >>> Eamon >>> Seattle >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e20c097d-5660-4dda-8278-023a811c7a92%40googlegroups.com >> >&
Re: [RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.
Just to be clear, I am not advocating reversing stems, what I am getting at is more along the lines of a 30-50mm stem vs. a 100-120mm stem. Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 10:58:17 AM UTC-7, Dave Johnston wrote: > > There are benefits to one-size-fits all bicycles like Bromptons. I > suppose there are benefits to reversing your 8cm stem and running a > 16cm longer top tube, but I think I prefer the benefits of a bike that > actually fits. > > On 5/18/20, Clayton Scott > wrote: > > A few thoughts: > > > > - Completely agree to keep the Hillborne as is. Keep cantis too. > > > > - Short stem and drops: Personally I don't see it as "making it work". > > There are even benefits to it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 9:35:13 AM UTC-7, Eamon Nordquist wrote: > >> > >> To each their own, but if that is “making drop bars work”, it’s not for > >> me. I’m not afraid of short stems either. But, hey, it’s all about what > >> works for each individual. I just think the new longer bikes are > designed > >> > >> for swept back bars, and if you are near the bottom end of the pbh > range > >> for a given size, most folks are going to consider it a compromise or > >> worse > >> to try running drop bars on them. > >> > >> I’m interested to see what the new Hillborne color will be. The > >> black/cream ones were great. > >> > >> Eamon > >> Seattle > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/6mPLvAp5oEY/unsubscribe. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com . > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c2fd96fc-7aa4-4e54-964c-0cdf09cca99b%40googlegroups.com. > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/61cf5353-5cb3-4e0e-9e16-df88535a18c8%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.
A few thoughts: - Agree to keep the Hillborne as is. Keep cantis too. Just to have some diversity in the line up. - Short stem and drops: Personally I don't see it as "making it work". There are even benefits to it: longer wheelbase is possible, less TCO or similar TCO but with bigger tires and fenders. more centered when climbing out of saddle = more traction, less forward weight on steep descents = less headers, etc. - Short stem and drops currently looks weird to people because it is not widely done, but I would not be surprised if sub 60mm stems became the norm on gravel bikes soon. Sub 50mm is already normal on MTB and no one thinks it is weird anymore. - The new Rivendell sizing is very different than what it was a few years ago. I used to ride a 62cm quickbeam and a 61cm Toyo Atlantis comfortably. Bought a 59 MIT Atlantis last year and it rode too big for my taste. Now I have a 56cm MIT Atlantis and that fits excellent. It is nominally the smallest bike I own, but rides much larger. Had I carefully studied the new PBH chart I would have likely gone with the 56 out the gate, but thought I knew better so I learned the hard way. What seems too small may actually be just right. Best, Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 9:35:13 AM UTC-7, Eamon Nordquist wrote: > > To each their own, but if that is “making drop bars work”, it’s not for > me. I’m not afraid of short stems either. But, hey, it’s all about what > works for each individual. I just think the new longer bikes are designed > for swept back bars, and if you are near the bottom end of the pbh range > for a given size, most folks are going to consider it a compromise or worse > to try running drop bars on them. > > I’m interested to see what the new Hillborne color will be. The > black/cream ones were great. > > Eamon > Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8f630af1-2c19-4b8f-adbe-43a5a481b258%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.
A few thoughts: - Completely agree to keep the Hillborne as is. Keep cantis too. - Short stem and drops: Personally I don't see it as "making it work". There are even benefits to it: On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 9:35:13 AM UTC-7, Eamon Nordquist wrote: > > To each their own, but if that is “making drop bars work”, it’s not for > me. I’m not afraid of short stems either. But, hey, it’s all about what > works for each individual. I just think the new longer bikes are designed > for swept back bars, and if you are near the bottom end of the pbh range > for a given size, most folks are going to consider it a compromise or worse > to try running drop bars on them. > > I’m interested to see what the new Hillborne color will be. The > black/cream ones were great. > > Eamon > Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c2fd96fc-7aa4-4e54-964c-0cdf09cca99b%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Brake lever preference with Nitto Noodles
I like these. Wish Teatro still made them without the holes though. https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=89002=CjwKCAjwwYP2BRBGEiwAkoBpAjh66NUUOA9hEk8Qlq6QJ2yvbFKGdgfldgFKgKCuSNdc-KVfRXxCaxoCOIIQAvD_BwE -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3c3107b4-dc8b-4d59-b4e3-a724ceee6bd0%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: How to get a wide range Bikepacking 5 or 6 speed cassette?
are you bending 11speed cogs? For me 11speed has been problem free for years. Clayton Scott HbG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/89624ba0-248b-45fa-bb5b-195fa379e193%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: How to get a wide range Bikepacking 5 or 6 speed cassette?
Friction shifting with clutch derailer works just as well as with clutchless derailer. At least for Shimano when paired with microshift. Clayton Scott HBG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/3df71d28-f25c-4384-92d2-a3e6a59ccef5%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] How to get a wide range Bikepacking 5 or 6 speed cassette?
It can gain you at least theoretical durability if you manage to increase the flange to flange distance for greater spoke bracing angle. Pairing a Single Speed Cassette hub with 5-6 cogs will get you there. Almost "old school" at this point, but certainly a viable option. Further reading here: https://forums.mtbr.com/29er-bikes/6-speed-cassette-ss-hub-please-post-your-setup-573783.html And here: https://blog.jonesbikes.com/6-speed-cassettes/ Enjoy the trip down the rabbit hole. Clayton Scott HBG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/43bf663c-f902-446d-b124-ffc9ec66e493%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.
The MIT Atlantis are excellent for drop bars. It might take some rethinking on what constitutes appropriate stem length though. There several advantages to shorter stem with longer frame. Clayton Scott HbG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/513eb7f7-fac5-49bf-bab4-da0ddbdd0776%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Susie Tire suggestions?
Really just a clearance thing. If you can get away with no boost that is fine and possibly better if the the rear is spaced 135. Even a 2.4 should be fine. I like the fatter almost 3" tires for fast rides, they are a ton of fun and the traction is amazing, but I just got back from Annadel where I was the only ridid single speed with 42mm tires today and all was good fun. Carried the bike across a few rock gardens to preserve the rims but all in all it is amazing what you can get away it. Not faster, but certainly more interesting again on the beaten paths. Not knowing the geo on the Susie it is hard to make any solid recommendations. I'd give RBW a call to sure. Clayton Scott HbG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/c4aa8047-dde9-4a77-9374-dc479873753a%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Susie Tire suggestions?
I like the Bongrager Chupacabra tires. Mine measure 2.8 on wide rims. Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Thursday, May 14, 2020 at 8:16:06 AM UTC-7, David Wadstrup wrote: > > I've got a Susie frameset on the way and am already in possession of a > beautiful set of Cliffhanger/WI MI5 wheels. I'm uncertain, though, of > which tires to choose. I'd prefer tan sidewalls, if possible, and would > like a 2.6 width(since I'll be running a 2x drivetrain.) I've been looking > at Teravail's offerings, but don't know anyone who's personally used them. > Does anyone here have any firsthand knowledge? I'm looking at either the > Honcho or the new Kessel. > > This bike will be dedicated to riding trails. I am not an overly > aggressive rider, but I do want a performance oriented tire, if you know > what I mean. I live in the Northeast and am looking for stability and > safety while riding sometimes muddy and wet-rooted trails. I'm a big fan > of Schwalbe's tires and thought the Hans Dampf would be an appropriate 2nd > choice(or first choice?) if the Teravails weren't recommended. But sadly, > their new "skinwall" versions don't aesthetically appeal to me. What do > you think -- Tervail Honcho or Kessel or Schwalbe something or other? > > Thanks for your advice! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5e6d4652-bf2b-46d2-a5d7-2f64a2af8f38%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Susie Tire suggestions?
Or you can just get some boost cranks and not worry. Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 12:36:24 PM UTC-7, David Wadstrup wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback, everyone! I’ll likely stick with the Schwalbes, > but was glad to hear of a positive experience with the Honchos. > > David, here’s what Grant wrote to me regarding tire size/chainring count > compatibility > > > • A 2.8-inch tire in back works best with a single ring up front. B/C in > the low gear on a double, the chain gets too close to the tire, and on > bouncy stuff it'll rub and the knobs can catch on it and suck it into the > gap btw the tire and chainstay. That can be avoided by shifting to ANY > OTHER GEAR when you go bouncing down a bumpy hill---but sometimes you'll > forget to do that, and it'll make you feel dumb, which is less than ideal. > > > Best, > > David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6c93f800-404b-418c-9831-d146d6ed5246%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Admissions of Things You Ought to Have Known But Did Not: A Thread
Chances are your pump gauge may be off. My 20 year old Silca Pista's pressure gauge is purely ornamental. Back when I first saw that Berto chart I dismissed it as absurd, but it was the pump that was way off. Now I use an SKS pressure checker gizmo if I really want to know, but most of the time I rely on my thumb. Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 9:18:16 AM UTC-7, Dave Johnston wrote: > > I sort of take the results from the Silca tool as a Minimum. I guess I > should have said that. I have gotten a pinch flat and dented rim on > the front, but I hit the edge of that pothole hard. Earlier that same > day I rode a trail down by the river with some short rocky portions no > problem. But the rocks down there are usually rounded by water. > > Maybe you should give Josh some feedback if you are getting double pinch > flats. > > -Dave J > > On 5/7/20, Andrew Letton > wrote: > > I recently had a similar experience with the recommended pressures from > the > > Silca tool - for Snoqualmie Pass tires and rocky fire roads - double > pinch > > flat on a recent ride.cheers,Andrew > > On Friday, May 8, 2020, 04:20:07 AM GMT+10, Corwin > > > wrote: > > > > I don't think I would trust the Silca tool. Put in my weight and my > bike's > > weight - conservatively over estimating both. The tool gave me pressures > of > > 50 & 48psi for rear and front tires respectively. > > At those pressures, I have experienced frequent pinch flats. > > Namaste, > > > > Corwin > > > > On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 7:22:25 PM UTC-7, Dave Johnston wrote: > > The charts above and Jan's data has been combined with some other > testing > > and put in a tool here: > > https://info.silca.cc/silca- professional-pressure- calculator > > Enter your bike weight and tire size and it will give you a > recommendation > > that is a good start. add or subtract ~ 10% for a feel you like. I gave > them > > my email for the pro version but the basic is good enough. > > -Dave J > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > > email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com . > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f8d8cd50-7539-4de3-af9d-71f0adb1bf38%40googlegroups.com. > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/FegWjxa6Qus/unsubscribe. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com . > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2090446109.3177308.1588902941632%40mail.yahoo.com. > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2545563c-7e10-49b3-a923-de0ef9fc1cd9%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: 52 Clem H Mustard
Clem and bullmooses are sold. Clayton \m/ Scott HBG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/e49fd20c-0c17-47b5-a8f0-ae9afffda185%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Frame color!
That blue is great. Also like grey with tinge of green like the the ocean on a stormy day. Clayton Scott HbG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/adee44ec-b1c3-4e4b-9ede-5238450ce1cf%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: FS: 52 Clem H Mustard
Still have it and given what they are going for on ebay it is a deal ;-). Happy to add your choice of bullmoose, chocomoose, or boscomoose with greater downslope angle to it for an etra $50. Hope you are all staying safe and sane! Clayton On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 11:08:26 AM UTC-7, Clayton Scott wrote: > > Price drop. $800. shipped to CONUS. > > Clayton Scott > HBG,CA > > On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:58:02 PM UTC-7, Clayton.sf wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Have a 52cm Clem Mustard H frame (high top tube) for sale. >> It is in almost new condition except for a scratch in the downbube. >> Straight, never crashed, no rust and frame savered. >> One thing to note is that it takes a 27.0 seat post. This is how it came >> to me straight from Rivendell HQ. >> I am including a Nitto Crystal Fellow (single bolt) in 27.0 250mm with it >> (or a black vintage XT post 330mm also made by nitto if you need a longer >> one). >> Headset and BB are included too. >> $850 shipped to CONUS. Attached some pictured of the full the build. >> >> Best, >> Clayton Scott >> HBG, CA >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f5816c47-55ce-4386-8ff8-4a8c82cac9dd%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Free Clinic Schedule on Instagram Live
Wheel spoking methods are always of interest to me. Since I have time and don't build more than ~10 wheels a year the Schraner method of spoking has served me well, but I am always interested in other methods. Seems the like tensioning, truing, and stress relieving are pretty similar from builder to builder but spoking seems to have a lot more flavors. Best, Clayton Scott HGB, CA On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 5:37:52 PM UTC-7, James / Analog Cycles wrote: > > Join the fun. Our first clinic had about 160 different people stop in, > and I learned that I shouldn't repeat questions! Joining the clinics is > super easy. Follow @analogcycles on instagram, and in the stories section, > you'll see our name with a glowy glowy ring around it when the clinic goes > live. You can ask ?s by typing them out, and we'll answer them as best we > can. You can only do a live feed for 30 minutes, but if we're not > finished, we'll pause while we restart, and wait a few for folks to > rejoin. > > Please feel free to offer suggestions for clinics or talks. All clinics > will start at 8pm EST so more folks can watch. > > 4/20/2020: We don't smoke weed, so why not have a clinic on 4/20? > Candice will show you how to wrap handlebar tape. She's demo it on a tape > that requires a bit more from the person wrapping it, so if you get this > technique, you can do ANY tape. She'll also cover twining the end, > benefits of different types of tape, and the mysteries of GEL... This was a > submitted idea. > > 4/22: Drivetrain cleaning and lubing, the Analog way. I'd say most folks > are either doing it wrong or are trying to hard, or both. Come watch our > simple presentation on drivetrain cleaning and lubing. We'll also cover > cleaning rims and rotors. Notice: our way to do it is fast, simple and > affordable. No tricks, no special tools. > > 4/27: Headset and bottom bracket installation. We'll do a few different > types, and talk about bear preload and maintenance and why Chris King > headsets are over rated. Submitted idea. > > 4/29: Normal derailleur adjustment. Front and Rear. We'll also talk > about cables and housing, installation. > > 5/4: 1x derailleur adjustment. Also talk about chain tension, chain > length, quick links. > > 5/6: Open! Who wants to come up with something > > 5/11: What goes into frame prep? A talk by Candice about how she preps > frames before building them. Not a clinic so much as a, hey look this is a > lot of work but it's important, talk. > > We'll keep going as long as people are stuck indoors, or if it just stays > popular. Maybe go back to one a week once COVID lets people get outside > more. > > Let us know what you want to see! > > James / Analog Cycles / Tanglefoot Cycles / Discord Components / Fifth > Season Canvas. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/ef68418a-244a-4d46-ab3d-fb633bcd0a34%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition
I actually friction shift 11 on my rando bike. Surprisingly not hard. Clayton Scott HbG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/fb97eee2-2846-4c04-8921-06dc07e838f3%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Lighten Up: Clem Edition
Which model are you using? Sport, treking, etc. Thanks, Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 10:18:44 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: > > One alternative to a standard donohue setup is an external generator. > Velogical, a Germany company, came out a few years ago with a modern > interpretation of the old bottle generators used in years past: > > http://www.velogical-engineering.com > > I’ve been using one for about six months now, and I’m totally sold. I use > mine to power two LED headlights and one LED taillight, and it works > perfectly. Virtually silent, virtually drag-free … and it works with your > current wheels! No need for a new front wheel. > > Cost is less than a top-quality dyno hub (e.g., Schmidt) but far less than > the total cost of a new wheel (hub + rim + spokes + wheel building). > > I watched their YouTube installation video and was able to install mine in > less than an hour. As I noted, no problems whatsoever in six months of use. > > --Eric Norris > campyo...@me.com > @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram) > > On Apr 10, 2020, at 9:57 AM, ted > > wrote: > > I had a similar experience. I was commuting on my simple one with battery > lights and thought that was just fine. I saw a pair of used single speed > wheels with a son hub for sale on the list here and decided to give the > dynamo thing a try. I found I appreciated the set it and forget it nature > of the dynamo system way more than I would ever have guessed. Maybe I'm > just extra lazy but once freed of dealing with batteries I'd not go back. > > On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 9:40:18 AM UTC-7, Dorothy C wrote: >> >> Re: dynamos. I got one on my Cheviot as it was the only 650b wheelset Riv >> had in at the time, and I have found a big benefit for me is that 1. I >> don’t have to remember to turn lights on and off, so they never discharge >> if forgotten and 2. when I go grocery shopping and park the bike I don’t >> have to detach and reattach the lights to prevent theft. >> In fact those were such big plusses, I had the local bike shop rebuild my >> Alex rim on my Appaloosa to have a dynamo too > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/eb4254af-0665-4a3b-9872-ae55f9ad8307%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/eb4254af-0665-4a3b-9872-ae55f9ad8307%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f7e80274-b149-44e6-a0cc-534a97789f14%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Clempocalypse Build
It's a beauty! Shifting sorted now? CD HBG, CA On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 11:33:46 AM UTC-7, J Imler wrote: > > Thanks, Clayton. I’m running fiction shifters. I removed a couple links > and swapped the derailleur. Could have been a loosish cable. Seems good to > go now. Here’s Clem in the habitat I hope to revisit more often. > > On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 7:42:03 AM UTC-7, Clayton Scott wrote: > > Seems odd. Are you on friction or index? have you played some with the > cable tension to get it just right. Another thought is that possibly the > derailer is not able to take up all the range leading it to being a bit too > slack in the lower cogs (just guessing). Does it happen in both big and > small ring? Might also be a slightly bent der hanger (Again just guessing). > In terms of chain length - I usually measure it by wrapping it around > biggest chainring and biggest cog (without running it through the derailer) > then add one chainlink segment (1") to that length. > > > > > > Clayton Scott > > HBG, CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 3:08:46 PM UTC-7, J Imler wrote:I’m > putting on the finishing touches. I’m getting a ghost shift between the > second and third cog. I swapped the Clem complete 9 speed cassette > (Sunrace?) for an eight speed Sunrace with a larger low gear. I think it’s > a 40t so I put on a WolfTooth hanger to help. It’s all gravy except the > ghost shift. Too much chain? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/4b103e7d-0ac4-4c67-8067-8570445b7125%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Lighten Up: Clem Edition
Why does 135 limit you to 10 gears? Mine goes to 11 and others' go to 12. Clayton Scott HBG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a5e978f9-8f17-4a19-815a-48de57bb83db%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Clempocalypse Build
Seems odd. Are you on friction or index? have you played some with the cable tension to get it just right. Another thought is that possibly the derailer is not able to take up all the range leading it to being a bit too slack in the lower cogs (just guessing). Does it happen in both big and small ring? Might also be a slightly bent der hanger (Again just guessing). In terms of chain length - I usually measure it by wrapping it around biggest chainring and biggest cog (without running it through the derailer) then add one chainlink segment (1") to that length. Clayton Scott HBG, CA On Thursday, April 9, 2020 at 3:08:46 PM UTC-7, J Imler wrote: > > I’m putting on the finishing touches. I’m getting a ghost shift between > the second and third cog. I swapped the Clem complete 9 speed cassette > (Sunrace?) for an eight speed Sunrace with a larger low gear. I think it’s > a 40t so I put on a WolfTooth hanger to help. It’s all gravy except the > ghost shift. Too much chain? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/42bb4b15-ca17-4cbc-9b93-08697ea42630%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: What Is a Cheviot?
Just to add to the "weight" thing. It is less about the weight but rather about the associated thickness/flexibility of the tube set used. For many people a bike built with thinner walled smaller diameter tubes will ride with less perceived exertion for a given speed than a bike of EQUAL weight built with thicker walled and larger diameter tubing.Less exertion = more speed. Again rider weight and intended purpose of bike matter. It is not all black and white and individual preferences play into this too. Clayton Scott HBG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/f6dfea3e-c273-4296-bbf7-3b2a4607a1d6%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Re: Sew-Ups Anyone?
And there is a this newly dug rabbit hole right in front of me... Clayton Scott HBG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/78a4cadb-88a4-4fa9-b59e-b4495b53daca%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] Chocomoose Versions
There have been some deemed "bad angle", where the bar angle was angled downwards more. They were sold upon request. I have a pair and prefer them to the regular version. Clayton Scott HBG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/033df254-4c72-4096-928d-2556ca81a256%40googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Semi-OT: chambray
Taylor stitch may have something too. Tellason may as well. Clayton Scott HBG, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/48449e3c-6021-4115-9abd-628c75f06974%40googlegroups.com.
[RBW] WTB: Miesha's Portuguese Tree Cork Grips Standard (Pair)
Hi All, Rivendell is out of the standard version (not modified for bar end shifters) of Miesha's Portuguese Tree Cork Grips. If anyone has an unmounted pair they want to part with I would be happy to take them off your hands. Happy to pay shipping and whatever you paid for them. Best, Clayton Scott SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] When is a bike to heavy?
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 12:33 -0700, Anne Paulson wrote: I don't understand how I could possibly have something that I could call a commute bike that weighed 23 pounds. Commute bikes, by their very nature, have fenders, lights and some kind of bag or basket. My 62cm 650b Boulder bicycle is approx. 24.5 pounds with Zefal frame pump and rack and fenders and front and rear generator lighting. I could likely shave off another pound by shortening the excess steerer, adding a lighter saddle lighter cranks, bb, inner tubes, pedals, and brake levers. That would get it very close to the 23 pounds and the bicycle would still likely be a reliable commuter that could be used on road and gravel. Running this as a 700c frame with 30mm tires would likely get it below 23 pounds with little impact on durability, weather worthiness, and long distance comfort. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: When is a bike to heavy?
Forgot to mention. The Boulder is very comfortable and I have been setting one personal best after another since I got it. On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 1:07 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: That's fine, Steve, and may God bless you. I like short and fast. On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-03-18 at 13:58 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Steve, listen: the crabon wunder might well be hell on a century, slow or not. That's not the point. The point is, for a fast 25 mile ride it might be quite fun; in fact, in certain ways, MORE fun than a 30 lb bike for that fast 25 mile ride. That's all. Over 'n' out. Sorry, but fast 25 mile rides just aren't very interesting to me. 25 isn't a long enough distance to figure, other than as a leisurely recovery ride on an off-day. But then, I'd rather go long than go fast anytime; and other than around-town shoppers or urban commuters, bikes that aren't good for centuries or longer hold no interest for me at all. Patrick and let's not even begin to talk about slow 25 mile rides Moore Those are probably the only 25 mile rides actually worth doing... -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Miche 9/8 Threadless Headset with partial Needle Bearings
Hi All looks like this is still available at a considerable lower price than what I listed mine for. Looks like I overpaid. Anyway, to keep things fair $30 shipped to CONUS. Best, Clayton On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Have a 1 1/8 (9/8) threadless Miche Headset for sale. NOS, comes in original box with all the parts. Bottom bearings are needle bearings. Top bearings are ball in retainer. Might help alleviate a shimmy. To my knowledge these are no longer made. $60 shipped to CONUS. Clayton Scott SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Miche 9/8 Threadless Headset with partial Needle Bearings
Hi All, Have a 1 1/8 (9/8) threadless Miche Headset for sale. NOS, comes in original box with all the parts. Bottom bearings are needle bearings. Top bearings are ball in retainer. Might help alleviate a shimmy. To my knowledge these are no longer made. $60 shipped to CONUS. Clayton Scott SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: 650b SRAM i-MOTION 9 speed Wheel
Hi All, Have the following hub gear package for sale: - SRAM i-MOTION 9 speed hub w/ grip-shifter and cabling. - Velocity Synergy 36-hole 650b rim - Hand built w/ double butted spokes by Anthony King of Longleaf Bicycles - Also included if desired: HubBub Twist Shifter Drop Bar Adapter: For using drop bars on bicycles equipped with internal gear hubs Paid over $400 for this setup 2 years ago. Just replaced it with a slightly fussier but lighter traditional derailer setup. Will part with it for $225 + shipping or pickup or delivery in San Francisco. Any reasonable offer entertained Thanks, Clayton Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Quickbeam Frame and Fork
Hi All, Figured I'd give it one last shot as I really don't enjoy the ebay process much. Deal is the same as below with the price reduced to $790. One more thing I forgot to note is that the fender eyelets are drilled for Honjo eyebolts. Still works with all other fenders just needs a slightly longer bolt and locknut. Thanks, Clayton Scott SF, CA On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Still have a silver (last run) Quickbeam Frame for sale. Frame is in excellent shape (9/10). Frame savered. Never crashed and always stored indoors. Size is a 62cm ctt and 60cm ctc. Comes with silver Chris King headset installed and matching front rack that I modified slightly to accept an Edelux Headlight. $890.00 plus actual shipping. Or pickup in San Francisco. I plan on putting it on ebay next week. Thanks, Clayton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Quickbeam Frame and Fork
Pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/sets/72157625995764471/with/5471069613/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/sets/72157625995764471/with/5471069613/ Best, Clayton On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, Figured I'd give it one last shot as I really don't enjoy the ebay process much. Deal is the same as below with the price reduced to $790. One more thing I forgot to note is that the fender eyelets are drilled for Honjo eyebolts. Still works with all other fenders just needs a slightly longer bolt and locknut. Thanks, Clayton Scott SF, CA On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, Still have a silver (last run) Quickbeam Frame for sale. Frame is in excellent shape (9/10). Frame savered. Never crashed and always stored indoors. Size is a 62cm ctt and 60cm ctc. Comes with silver Chris King headset installed and matching front rack that I modified slightly to accept an Edelux Headlight. $890.00 plus actual shipping. Or pickup in San Francisco. I plan on putting it on ebay next week. Thanks, Clayton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Quickbeam Frame and Fork
it is just 2 cm ;-) On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: dang, I wish that was a 60ctt. 62 is just too big for me. ~Mike On Feb 23, 1:38 pm, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: Pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/sets/72157625995764471/wit... http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/sets/72157625995764471/wit.. . Best, Clayton On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Figured I'd give it one last shot as I really don't enjoy the ebay process much. Deal is the same as below with the price reduced to $790. One more thing I forgot to note is that the fender eyelets are drilled for Honjo eyebolts. Still works with all other fenders just needs a slightly longer bolt and locknut. Thanks, Clayton Scott SF, CA On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Still have a silver (last run) Quickbeam Frame for sale. Frame is in excellent shape (9/10). Frame savered. Never crashed and always stored indoors. Size is a 62cm ctt and 60cm ctc. Comes with silver Chris King headset installed and matching front rack that I modified slightly to accept an Edelux Headlight. $890.00 plus actual shipping. Or pickup in San Francisco. I plan on putting it on ebay next week. Thanks, Clayton- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Quickbeam Frame and Fork
Hi All, Still have a silver (last run) Quickbeam Frame for sale. Frame is in excellent shape (9/10). Frame savered. Never crashed and always stored indoors. Size is a 62cm ctt and 60cm ctc. Comes with silver Chris King headset installed and matching front rack that I modified slightly to accept an Edelux Headlight. $890.00 plus actual shipping. Or pickup in San Francisco. I plan on putting it on ebay next week. Thanks, Clayton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: i-Motion Wheel
Hi All, Have the following hub gear package for sale: - SRAM i-MOTION 9 speed hub w/ grip-shifter and cabling. - Velocity Synergy 36-hole 650b rim - Hand built w/ double butted spokes by Anthony King of Longleaf Bicycles - Also included if desired: HubBub Twist Shifter Drop Bar Adapter: For using drop bars on bicycles equipped with internal gear hubs Paid over $400 for this setup 2 years ago. Just replaced it with a slightly fussier but lighter traditional derailer setup. Will part with it for $260 + shipping or pickup or delivery in San Francisco. Thanks, Clayton Scott San Francisco, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Updated FS: 3TTT, Sugino, SKF, Quickbeam
170mm On Friday, January 21, 2011, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: Out of curiosity, what's the arm length on the Alpina's? On Jan 20, 1:56 pm, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Just a few things unclaimed: - 3ttt ProChrome stem made from columbus tubing (silver), 12cm, Excellent condition: $35 - SKF 110 JIS bb, excellend condition: $75 - Sugino Alpina crank, 48/34 compact, rings new, arms: logo rubbed off in some areas otherwise in good condition: $95 As previously all prices include shipping. Of course I still have the frame too: 62cm Quickbeam (60cm ctc), silver, from the very last run. In excellent shape, no dings, dents or scratches, never crashed, framesavered and always stored inside. Comes with rack and headset. $950. For this I will need actual shipping Thanks, Clayton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] WTB 60cm Rivendell Quickbeam
Hi Mike, I have a 60cm (center to center, which Rivendell calls a 62cm) silver quickbeam, frame, fork, King Headset, and rack for sale. $950 plus shipping. Frame is in excellent shape, all framesaverd, and ready to be built up. Let me know if you are interested. Thanks, Clayton On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Michael Williams mkernanwilli...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone out there have a 60cm Quickbeam that they might be interested in selling?Just checking thanks-Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Wool Jerseys
All jerseys are sold. If I did not get to you personally it is because someone else was faster. Thanks for all the Replies On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Have 3 Portland/Oregon Cyclewear jerseys for sale. All of them in top shape. No holes. Tried on once. 2x short sleeve main color green with black stripe - $28 each 1x long sleeve main color black with white stripe - $38 Thanks, Clayton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Wool Jerseys are ALL SOLD
If you did not hear from me personally someone else was faster. Thanks for all the inquiries! Clayton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Updated FS: 3TTT, Sugino, SKF, Quickbeam
Hi All, Just a few things unclaimed: - 3ttt ProChrome stem made from columbus tubing (silver), 12cm, Excellent condition: $35 - SKF 110 JIS bb, excellend condition: $75 - Sugino Alpina crank, 48/34 compact, rings new, arms: logo rubbed off in some areas otherwise in good condition: $95 As previously all prices include shipping. Of course I still have the frame too: 62cm Quickbeam (60cm ctc), silver, from the very last run. In excellent shape, no dings, dents or scratches, never crashed, framesavered and always stored inside. Comes with rack and headset. $950. For this I will need actual shipping Thanks, Clayton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Wool Jerseys
Hi All, Have 3 Portland/Oregon Cyclewear jerseys for sale. All of them in top shape. No holes. Tried on once. 2x short sleeve main color green with black stripe - $28 each 1x long sleeve main color black with white stripe - $38 Thanks, Clayton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Wool Jerseys
All are mens size large. On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Have 3 Portland/Oregon Cyclewear jerseys for sale. All of them in top shape. No holes. Tried on once. 2x short sleeve main color green with black stripe - $28 each 1x long sleeve main color black with white stripe - $38 Thanks, Clayton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Anybody have a 68 cm Quickbeam for sale??
No 68 for sale, but have a 62 (60cm ctc) if anyone is interested. Thanks, Clayton Scott SF, CA On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:55 AM, tresbambi...@gmail.com tresbambi...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I hope this is the right place to post this, I've been away too long. Anyway, does anybody have one they are willing to part with?? Please email me at tresbambi...@gmail.com Thanks! Al -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Anybody have a 68 cm Quickbeam for sale??
62cm Quickbeam that is. ;-) On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.comwrote: No 68 for sale, but have a 62 (60cm ctc) if anyone is interested. Thanks, Clayton Scott SF, CA On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:55 AM, tresbambi...@gmail.com tresbambi...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I hope this is the right place to post this, I've been away too long. Anyway, does anybody have one they are willing to part with?? Please email me at tresbambi...@gmail.com Thanks! Al -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Nitto, 3TTT, GripKing, Sugino, SKF, Brooks, Phil Wood, Grand Bois, Panaracer, White, Paul,
Hi All, Have been getting some requests around individual part prices. Here is what I am trying to get for the individual components of the Quickbeam. Nitto Noodle 42cm Handlebar. Some insertion marks but otherwise excellent: $38 3ttt ProChrome stem made from columbus tubing (silver), 12cm, Excellent condition: $35 Paul V-brakes, silver, $125 for the pair, excellend condition Tektro V-brake drop levers $15, good condition Honjo 700c/43 fenders, have been installed and the stays cut, Look used, structurally sound: $35 Berthoud fenders, similar shape to Honjos: $30 SKF 110 JIS bb, excellend condition: $75 Sugino Alpina crank, 48/34 compact, rings new, arms: logo rubbed off in some areas otherwise in good condition: $95 Phil Wood 120mm highflange flip flop hub in silver lace with db mavic spokes to a mavic open pro, good to excellend condition: $115 White Ind Dos Eno Freewheel 19/17 in excellent condition: $60 DA cog 16t 3/32: $10 Grip King pedals: $30, Good condition Brooks B.17 black standard: Broken in but no cracks, 2 lacing holes on each side punched, lots of life still but not new looking: $50 Nitto S-83 Seatpost, Some scuffs, nothing structural, good condition: $60 Grand Bois Cypress tires 700cx30: Rear is well worn but still life in it, front is in okay shape $30 700cx35 (measured) Panaracer Paselas with gum wall. Excellent shape with some smudges on the wall: $30 All prices include shipping to CONUS. Feel free to ask any questions you may have. Thanks, Clayton Scott SF, CA Quickbeam frame, fork, headset, rack -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Updated FS: Nitto, 3TTT, Sugino, SKF, Grand Bois, Quickbeam, Honjo, Berthoud
Hi All, The sale is going well. Here is what is left: Nitto Noodle 42cm Handlebar. Some insertion marks but otherwise excellent: $38 3ttt ProChrome stem made from columbus tubing (silver), 12cm, Excellent condition: $35 Honjo 700c/43 fenders, have been installed and the stays cut, Look used, structurally sound: $35 Berthoud fenders, similar shape to Honjos: $30 SKF 110 JIS bb, excellend condition: $75 Sugino Alpina crank, 48/34 compact, rings new, arms: logo rubbed off in some areas otherwise in good condition: $95 DA cog 16t 3/32: $10 Nitto S-83 Seatpost, Some scuffs, nothing structural, good condition: $60 Grand Bois Cypress tires 700cx30: Rear is well worn but still life in it, front is in okay shape $30 As previously all prices include shipping Of course I still have the frame too: 62cm Quickbeam (60cm ctc), silver, from the very last run. In excellent shape, no dings, dents or scratches, never crashed, framesavered and always stored inside. Comes with rack and headset. $950. For this I will need actual shipping Thanks, Clayton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Quickbeam
Hi All, For sale is my 62cm Quickbeam. (60cm ctc). I am 6 feet tall and fits perfectly. some photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/sets/72157624631299665/with/4689322413 Ideally I'd sell almost the complete bike, but if you want just the frame, fork, rack, headset scroll down. Frame and fork Chris King headset 3TTT stem Nitto Noodles in 42cm Cane Creek levers for linear pull brakes Paul V-brakes Nitto front rack Sugino Alpina cranks with surly stainless rings SKF bottom bracket Rear wheel (phil wood with dos eno freewheel and 16t dura ace cog on the flipside, open pro mavic rim) Grip King pedals Honjo and Berthoud fenders Nitto S-83 Post Brooks B.17 standard in black Sram chain Almost new set of 35mm Paselas Semi-worn set of Grand Bois cypress (not selling front wheel or the light,) $1700 plus actual shipping. Frame has never been crashed, always stored inside. No dents or dings. A few little scratches but overall in excellent condition. I am also willing to sell just the frame, front rack, headset, fork for $1,000, although the components really work very well toghether (perfect chainlines, etc). Happy to show it in person too (local sale preferred). Thanks, Clayton Scott SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Splats Video
very happy with mine so far too! On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 12:12 PM, nawr...@comcast.net wrote: Jim, that is soo goood! Diggin my splats too, Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO - Original Message - From: cyclofiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 8:20:04 AM Subject: [RBW] Splats Video Drizzly Thursday commute and a quick bit o' editing... http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/5353558271/ Enjoy Ride Safe! - Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle comparison - Brooks B17 vs. Berthoud Touring
I have been using b.17s for while, but got frustrated when I burnt through my last one in 7 months and went ahead and purchased a Berthoud touring saddle. I have only been using it for 2 months now but so far so good. It is a little narrower than a b.17 but not in a bad way. Still has enough room accommodate my sitbones. The shape seems perfect for me. The craftsmanship is stunning compared to Brooks. Compared to the now incredibly saggy brooks it does feel a lot firmer. I did ride a 200k permanent within a few weeks of owning it and toward the end I did have to ride out of the saddle occasionally to give my slightly protesting sitbones some relief. It was not agonizing and only started setting in during the last few miles but was noticeable and distracting nevertheless. (Still significantly better than having the metal frame of the b.17 dig into me though.). So far the Berthoud is perfect for up to a 100 miles and I expect it to get even more comfortable as the saddle and I get more used to eachother. I purchased mine from Rene Herse Bicycles who lets you try the saddle for 60 days and return it if you don't like it. I suggest you give it try. Best, Clayton Scott SF, CA On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:29 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I had an Ideale when it was new and it wasn't as comfortable and didn't work as well as a B.17. It was one of those with the integral wide aluminum rails and the built-in micro-adjusting clamp. My favorite Ideales are the 4 and 6 (the lightly sprung city saddles). I think the aluminum frame Ideale used made for a more comfortable spring base than the heavier Brooks. Unfortunately, the leather is somewhat thin on them and they tend to need frequent tightening. Wonder if Berthoud will ever try and copy that model? On Jan 7, 10:29 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 08:12 -0800, JoelMatthews wrote: Unless you have an Ideale that has been well maintained - or stored in optimal conditions - it is not going to be as comfortable, work as well, or last as long as a modern Brooks or Berthoud. I had an Ideale when it was new and it wasn't as comfortable and didn't work as well as a B.17. It was one of those with the integral wide aluminum rails and the built-in micro-adjusting clamp. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saddle comparison - Brooks B17 vs. Berthoud Touring
Yes, just mount and tighten clamp. On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: Joel and Clayton: I noticed that the rails appear a bit narrower on the Berthoud Aspin than on a B-17. Did you have to force the rails out a little to get it to fit your seatpost clamp? What seatposts have you tried with the Apsin? Thanks, Lee San Francisco, CA On Jan 7, 9:42 am, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: I have been using b.17s for while, but got frustrated when I burnt through my last one in 7 months and went ahead and purchased a Berthoud touring saddle. I have only been using it for 2 months now but so far so good. It is a little narrower than a b.17 but not in a bad way. Still has enough room accommodate my sitbones. The shape seems perfect for me. The craftsmanship is stunning compared to Brooks. Compared to the now incredibly saggy brooks it does feel a lot firmer. I did ride a 200k permanent within a few weeks of owning it and toward the end I did have to ride out of the saddle occasionally to give my slightly protesting sitbones some relief. It was not agonizing and only started setting in during the last few miles but was noticeable and distracting nevertheless. (Still significantly better than having the metal frame of the b.17 dig into me though.). So far the Berthoud is perfect for up to a 100 miles and I expect it to get even more comfortable as the saddle and I get more used to eachother. I purchased mine from Rene Herse Bicycles who lets you try the saddle for 60 days and return it if you don't like it. I suggest you give it try. Best, Clayton Scott SF, CA On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:29 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I had an Ideale when it was new and it wasn't as comfortable and didn't work as well as a B.17. It was one of those with the integral wide aluminum rails and the built-in micro-adjusting clamp. My favorite Ideales are the 4 and 6 (the lightly sprung city saddles). I think the aluminum frame Ideale used made for a more comfortable spring base than the heavier Brooks. Unfortunately, the leather is somewhat thin on them and they tend to need frequent tightening. Wonder if Berthoud will ever try and copy that model? On Jan 7, 10:29 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 08:12 -0800, JoelMatthews wrote: Unless you have an Ideale that has been well maintained - or stored in optimal conditions - it is not going to be as comfortable, work as well, or last as long as a modern Brooks or Berthoud. I had an Ideale when it was new and it wasn't as comfortable and didn't work as well as a B.17. It was one of those with the integral wide aluminum rails and the built-in micro-adjusting clamp. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Handlebar Wrap - Why Not Leather?
Leather is slippery when wet. At least the stuff I tried. On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 13:06 -0800, AmiSingh wrote: Question for the group. It appears as though there is a general overall preference for using cloth or cork handlebar wrap / grips rather than leather. Why is it so skewed away from leather, especially considering so many of us try and have our handlebar cloth or cork resemble the leather saddles on our bikes so closely? Why not just use leather bar wrap? I like leather bar wrap. It looks good, feels good, and lasts a long, long time. Leather bar wrap will outlast cloth by at least 3 to 1, maybe more, and will outlast cork as well. In the long run, cloth is probably more expensive than leather bar wrap, when you figure in how often you have to replace it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Shimmy, according to BQ
wish I had my BQ already. On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:11 PM, bpus...@aol.com wrote: At last, a voice of reason! In a message dated 12/10/2010 4:21:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, montclairbob...@gmail.com writes: With some exceptions (like life-threatening high-speed wobs, no thanks)... maybe it's time we just embrace the shimmy... it could just be our bikes telling us: Slow the F down... Put your damn hands back on the bars Get a trailer if you wanna haul sh** Turn off that awful music on your iPod, it's giving me the shimmies Get me some decent tires and a nice headset, you cheapskate Don't worry about it... It's what makes me ride so nicely at all other times I fully expect to discover a shimmy in my Bomba (at some point)... I'll try not to freak out... Happy Friday, everyone... I'm ready to shimmy myself... Peace, BB On Dec 10, 3:12 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Mike This is part of the voodoo feel to the whole thing. You can find an article that says knobbies damp out shimmy. You can find another that says knobbies supply the excitation force for shimmy. You can find another article that states that wide tires like knobbies are typically more compliant and therefore enable low frequency oscillations to be amplified by the system. My first few experiments are going to be: 1. Baseline the bike. Log initial condition of all independent variables that I might change. Attempt to measure the frequency and amplitude of the shimmy 2. Vary front tire pressure and ride. Note changes 3. Vary rear tire pressure and ride. Note changes 4. take reference weight (like maybe two full water bottles) and put them at various locations on the system and note any changes A. On front rack B. In H2O cages C. In jersey pocket D. On rear rack E. maybe elsewhere 5. Change tires 6. Change front wheel 7. Change rear wheel 8. Tighten headset or similarly damp steering 9. Load rear end heavily 10. Load front end heavily On Dec 10, 11:44 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: Funny, Bill, that you say your Hillborne shimmied. The one I had (now sold) was the most stable bike I've ever ridden with no hands in my life. I could have had a 3 course dinner while riding and not even think about touching the bars. I had the standard Riv supplied Tange headset and even with Schwalbe Smart Sams ( a knobbie tire) it was smooth as glass. The replacement bike, a used Ram, is not as stable, but is more like other bikes I've had. Neither bike has any shimmy at all. I did own, for a while, a Cotic Roadrat , but that baby was shimmy city and was sold quickly. On that bike a headset change quieted it as did a tire switch. But I could not get rid of it. I even think the size and shape of the rider could influence it dynamically as much as bike geometry and even things like tire tread pattern. As others have mentioned above, shimmy is a complex set of factors, and due to system (bike/rider) to system variation it can affect one of identical bikes and not the other. ~Mike~ On Dec 10, 11:18 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Allan, thanks for that suggestion. On Dec 10, 11:10 am, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote: BTW, there's the Bicycle Quarterly Reader's Review list, http://groups.google.com/group/bqrr, that was created as a venue for precisely these types of discussions. Not saying you can't discuss the mag anywhere you please, just saying we'd really appreciate the discussion there. :-) Carry on, -Allan- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
[RBW] FS: Berthoud Saddlebag (banana bag); Berthoud Saddlebag Small
Hi All, I have two Berthoud Saddlebags for sale. Both are Black. Both in used but very good condition. The first one is like this one: http://www.wallbike.com/berthoud/handlebar-bags/gb288-small-saddlebag $45 shipped. The other one is the banana bag model. Looks like this: http://www.renehersestore.com/catalog/IMG_1362.JPG (but with the toestrap instead of clickfix) Note, this is the old version that attaches with a toestratp not the clickfix version now available. It is the buckle version. $75 shipped Thanks, Clayton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?
I use one. The only thing I hated was the paper clip that holds the rod in. I use a rubber O-ring inbetween the center tube one the tube attached to the bag that is on the bent end (if that makes sense). Eliminates rattle and pape rclip is no longer needed. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:07 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I have a buddy who makes really nice handlebar bags. Pretty similar to Ostrich. I picked up a couple from him, and despite the cost of the bags and the front rack, for some strange psychological reason I couldn't talk myself into pulling the trigger on a decaleuruntil now. I just got in a very slick Gilles Berthoud decaleur. I'm going to set it up on my Hilsen as soon as I can get around to it. I was surprised that there does not appear to be a single youtube how-to video with 'decaleur' as a tag, so maybe I'll video my work, too. Are there any warnings to setting up a Berthoud decaleur? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?
Let's try this again (hit send too soon). I use one. The only thing I hated was the paper clip that holds the rod in. Instead I use a rubber O-ring between the center tube attached to contraption bolted to stem and the tube attached to the bag that is closest to the bent end of the rod (if that makes sense). That way I can remove the rod and the bag without having to remove the O-ring. Eliminates rattle and paper clip is no longer needed. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: I use one. The only thing I hated was the paper clip that holds the rod in. I use a rubber O-ring inbetween the center tube one the tube attached to the bag that is on the bent end (if that makes sense). Eliminates rattle and pape rclip is no longer needed. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:07 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I have a buddy who makes really nice handlebar bags. Pretty similar to Ostrich. I picked up a couple from him, and despite the cost of the bags and the front rack, for some strange psychological reason I couldn't talk myself into pulling the trigger on a decaleuruntil now. I just got in a very slick Gilles Berthoud decaleur. I'm going to set it up on my Hilsen as soon as I can get around to it. I was surprised that there does not appear to be a single youtube how-to video with 'decaleur' as a tag, so maybe I'll video my work, too. Are there any warnings to setting up a Berthoud decaleur? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?
Except you still need to remove the clip to remove the bag. The O-ring does not need to be removed and on top of that eliminates rattle of rod in tubes. (Of course maybe the cippiola clip helps with rattle too, not sure about that. Never tried) On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:16 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote: Let's try this again (hit send too soon). I use one. The only thing I hated was the paper clip that holds the rod in. Instead I use a rubber O-ring between the center tube attached to contraption bolted to stem and the tube attached to the bag that is closest to the bent end of the rod (if that makes sense). That way I can remove the rod and the bag without having to remove the O-ring. Eliminates rattle and paper clip is no longer needed. A circular Clippiola paper clip does the same thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?
Here is picture of O-ring setup: http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/4780906703/in/set-72157624467335916/ That should explain what I was trying to say. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: Except you still need to remove the clip to remove the bag. The O-ring does not need to be removed and on top of that eliminates rattle of rod in tubes. (Of course maybe the cippiola clip helps with rattle too, not sure about that. Never tried) On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:16 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote: Let's try this again (hit send too soon). I use one. The only thing I hated was the paper clip that holds the rod in. Instead I use a rubber O-ring between the center tube attached to contraption bolted to stem and the tube attached to the bag that is closest to the bent end of the rod (if that makes sense). That way I can remove the rod and the bag without having to remove the O-ring. Eliminates rattle and paper clip is no longer needed. A circular Clippiola paper clip does the same thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?
Yes, it was Tony Pereira. Thanks for the compliments. And yes, it is a modified version that ommits the crossbar that bolts onto the stem. Bag to decaleur attachment is the same. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:49 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote: Here is picture of O-ring setup: http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/4780906703/in/set-72157624467335916/ That should explain what I was trying to say. For those unfamiliar with the Berthoud decaleur, it should be pointed out, what's show here is a very special custom setup, not the standard decaleur. Who made that lovely custom stem, anyway, Tony Don't Fear the Pear? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?
The way the tubes are arranged you don't need to pull out the rod all the way to remove the bag. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:04 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: That's a great shot, but I still maybe don't quite understand. If the O-ring is squeezing the L-shaped slider bar, I understand how that would eliminate rattle and make it unnecessary to have the paper clippy thing on the other end. But, if it's squeezing the L-shaped slider bar, it seems to me that it will fall on the ground when you slide out that slider bar and eventually get lost. Are you telling me that the O-ring is stretched over the center tube part that's bolted to the stem in this picture, but the overhanging part of the O-ring has enough pucker that it still squeezes the slider bar when installed? On Nov 15, 2:52 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:49 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote: Here is picture of O-ring setup: http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/4780906703/in/set-72157624. .. That should explain what I was trying to say. For those unfamiliar with the Berthoud decaleur, it should be pointed out, what's show here is a very special custom setup, not the standard decaleur. Who made that lovely custom stem, anyway, Tony Don't Fear the Pear? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: anybody use a Berthoud Decaleur?
Yes, that is it. (Admittedly, you could probably remove a paperclip just as fast) And yes, the Rohlofftonneur has been excellent so far. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:09 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Aha! OK, so IF I did snatch out the L-bar entirely the O-ring would fall on the ground, but if I just slide it out past the center tube, the O-ring stays perched on the tip, I remove the bag and push the L- bar back in. Is that pretty much it? I get it. p.s. your Rohlofftonneur is really cool. On Nov 15, 3:06 pm, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: The way the tubes are arranged you don't need to pull out the rod all the way to remove the bag. On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:04 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: That's a great shot, but I still maybe don't quite understand. If the O-ring is squeezing the L-shaped slider bar, I understand how that would eliminate rattle and make it unnecessary to have the paper clippy thing on the other end. But, if it's squeezing the L-shaped slider bar, it seems to me that it will fall on the ground when you slide out that slider bar and eventually get lost. Are you telling me that the O-ring is stretched over the center tube part that's bolted to the stem in this picture, but the overhanging part of the O-ring has enough pucker that it still squeezes the slider bar when installed? On Nov 15, 2:52 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 14:49 -0800, Clayton Scott wrote: Here is picture of O-ring setup: http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/4780906703/in/set-72157624. .. That should explain what I was trying to say. For those unfamiliar with the Berthoud decaleur, it should be pointed out, what's show here is a very special custom setup, not the standard decaleur. Who made that lovely custom stem, anyway, Tony Don't Fear the Pear? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
My quickbeam does have LL. I care a little, but not enough to file them off. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:11 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips. My wife's Yves Gomez.I forget. I'll check. I noticed in the youtube video on how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips. Does yours? Do you care one way or the other? On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack. On the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike tightly enough. What a dilemma! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] White Industries vbc road crank
I like them too. So far just a few hundred miles on them. I use them with an ENO 44 ring that links to the the Rohloff speedhub. On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Ken Mattina ken.matt...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a 46-28 on my Lyon and I think that it's the cat's meow. Ken On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Tom Norwood tbnorw...@gmail.com wrote: I have one on my custom Ebisu. I've been using it for about four years. I really like it. I wanted a 46/30 double and it allowed me to do that. I've had no problems with it at all and have thousands of miles on it in Seattle weather. (i.e. it's seen plenty of rain!) On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Christian christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.com wrote: There have been several discussions that have included fleeting mention of this crank. Are there folks out there using this crankset? The ability to set up any gearing combination is, of course, quite appealing. I do understand about being locked into the White Industries universe. Thanks Christian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Where did the spring go? Where did my hormones go? Where did my energy go? Where did my go go? Where did the pleasure go? Where did my hair go? -- Ray Davies -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Dario Pegoretti film
Truly enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: Slawta would win hands down. He is a true artist with bike painting. I found Pegoretti obnoxious. ~Mike~ On Aug 27, 10:24 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Ha! Had to loook up who Slawta is. That's funny! On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe they're going to sell DVDs. Maybe small windows of preciousness is Internet 3.0 I don't know. I do think John Slawta and Dario Pegoretti should have a reality show paint-off. Surface decoration is so not my thing (ironic, as an artist). I see Rapha has coined the term roadwear, which I actually like. It sounds like lampposts and bike lanes. Philip (this is more OT than shaving) Williamson www.biketinker.comandwww.philipwilliamson.com On Aug 27, 9:17 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I'm waiting for it to buffer as I write, but what's the deal with the today only thing? That's overly precious from such an epic company. On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Michael Mann velom...@gmail.com wrote: I know this is late notice, but the newest film on the Rapha site - available to view TODAY ONLY - is, IMHO, the best of the three. It features the master frame builder Dario Pegoretti in his shop and in conversation. Check it out. Quick. http://www.rapha.cc/ -- Michael Mann http://baiku-velomann.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Want some 700C Hetres or Pari-Motos? Sign up here
I'd at least take one set of either and possibly both. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Stonehog stone...@gmail.com wrote: Definitely sign me up. Brian On Aug 18, 2010, at 9:34 AM, stevep33 steve...@gmail.com wrote: excellent idea. +1 for either or both. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa
Awesome! I might just extend my ride a little tomorrow. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: My favorite so far is through valleyford, occidental, monte rio. If you're in the Valley Ford, Occidental, Monte Rio area you're in prime cycling territory. And you can ride what some say is the best bike ride in the world, King Ridge. From Monte Rio, head down the river a couple of miles. Turn right on the Cazadero Highway, which is more like a little side road. When you get to Cazadero, keep going on King Ridge, to the Bicycle Fun Zone. One way back is to go right on Hauser Bridge, an extremely steep downhill followed by an uphill on Seaview. Go down to Highway 1 via Meyer Grade. South on 1, left at Jenner to go back up the river to Monte Rio. It'll be about 55 miles. I rode King Ridge for the first time this weekend. I thought I'd died and gone to Bicycle Heaven. There may be a better bike ride, but so far I haven't discovered one. In keeping with recent discussions, I highly recommend bringing some cookies along. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa
Just followed it on a map. Looks epic! Thanks for sharing! On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: My favorite so far is through valleyford, occidental, monte rio. If you're in the Valley Ford, Occidental, Monte Rio area you're in prime cycling territory. And you can ride what some say is the best bike ride in the world, King Ridge. From Monte Rio, head down the river a couple of miles. Turn right on the Cazadero Highway, which is more like a little side road. When you get to Cazadero, keep going on King Ridge, to the Bicycle Fun Zone. One way back is to go right on Hauser Bridge, an extremely steep downhill followed by an uphill on Seaview. Go down to Highway 1 via Meyer Grade. South on 1, left at Jenner to go back up the river to Monte Rio. It'll be about 55 miles. I rode King Ridge for the first time this weekend. I thought I'd died and gone to Bicycle Heaven. There may be a better bike ride, but so far I haven't discovered one. In keeping with recent discussions, I highly recommend bringing some cookies along. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite route? Oakland to Santa Rosa
Hi Franklyn, Clayton here. I would be very happy if you could send me the backroads way west of petaluma through sebastopol and west sonoma trail. I will be riding to healdsburg again (inlaws live up there) this saturday and have already found a bunch of fun and not so fun routes but have not done this one yet. My favorite so far is through valleyford, occidental, monte rio. Anyway, if you could sent that would be great. Of course you are welcome to join the fun too if you want to come along. I will leave around 6am from SF on Sat. Best, Clayton On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:07 PM, franklyn sini...@msn.com wrote: I have done this many times. You can start in the City after getting across the Bay, then go through fairfax to nicasio, then go to Petaluma, then takes Old Redwood Hwy (parallel to 101) all the way to santa rosa. You can also stay west of petaluma in the back roads through sebastopal then take the west sonoma trail into santa rosa (contact me offlist for the exact route). you can also take golden gate transit at El Cerrito Del Norte BART to San Rafael then wind through Marin. I am actually probably starting my journey in Berkeley this saturday to ride to Ukiah (another 60 miles north of Santa Rosa). Franklyn On Aug 5, 4:31 pm, reynoldslugs be...@perrylaw.net wrote: Living in Sonoma County and concerned with the safety of all Rivendell and other riders, I resepctfully suggest that you stay away from Vallejo and Highway 29. Make your way via ferry to SF or MArin County/ Sausalito - then find the back roads up to Petaluma and Santa Rosa. I haven't done the ride for several years, but you can ramble around and up to the top of Mt Tam. Be safe. On Aug 5, 11:56 am, Andy.M andy.e.m...@gmail.com wrote: I was just up in the that area... so to give you a heads up there is road work going on on the 121 between Napa and Sonoma NO SHOULDER so if you go that way be careful! The Oakville Grade Rd/Trinity Rd is gorgeous, but you'll need to bring your hill climbing shoes ;) -Andy On Aug 5, 11:30 am, ian connelly ico...@gmail.com wrote: (caveat: i haven't done this ride exactly, but have ridden from north of santa rosa through napa to vallejo, and have done a lot of riding in marin. i would also be eager to hear input from santa rosa/sonoma locals!) i'd suggest you take the ferry (either to larkspur or vallejo) to get started. only problem is that to take the ferry to either of those spots you can't go from oakland, but must start in SF. since you seem willing to BART you could always start by doing that. you can also take the ferry from jack london to the ferry building and sf and transfer (checkhttp://www.eastbayferry.com/forschedulesetc). from vallejo...well, you'd have to ride along hwy 29 to get to napa, and it's not very pleasant. wide shoulder but trafficky. (the bay trail is not yet finished between napa and vallejo, though they are making progress). once in napa, the easiest route would probably be via the silverado trail, then cut over to the west at st helena and go into santa rosa via spring mountain/st helena/calistoga. steep, narrow. you could also devise a route that got you to hwy 12 without having to go on the busiest roads, but you'd likely have to do a stint along 12 or 121 at some point, and on the weekends these roads are congested with drivers and would not be fun. also, since many tourists are in the area to drink wine, i would try to avoid riding them after noon if you must ride them at all. via marin - little more wander-y, but you could take the ferry to larkspur, head west along sir francis drake past fairfax, turn towards to nicasio valley road (just past san geronimo), then turn right on petaluma-point reyes road...then, when you get to petaluma, head north via either stony point (west of 101) or redwood/petaluma hill road (east of 101). these are probably the most direct if semi-trafficky options, so ymmv depending. (after i wrote this i checked google maps' bike option - google suggests the petaluma hill route - 65 miles, 6.5 hours. napa route adds 20 miles. good luck!) ian On Aug 3, 11:14 am, CR Masterson crmaster...@gmail.com wrote: I'm happy to BART across the bay, head up through Marin. Or any other way you have fallen in love with. It would be nice avoid huge trucks, mondo hills and traveling way out of the way as much as possible. Thanks.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: [RBW] Daruma Bolt Question
I drill/file a notch into the fender and rubber washer and rotate it towards the rear of the bike to allow for proper drainage. Also, the setup is fork crown, rubber washer, fender, small petal washer, locknut. By doing it your way (rubber against the crown) it likely provided an even better seal. Hope this helps, Clayton On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Wondering if anybody else has had this problem with the daruma fork crown bolt that comes with some Honjo fenders. Basically, the daruma includes a rubber washer that seals against the bottom of the fork crown; a metal fender washer sits between the rubber washer and the fender. After I installed the fenders and got in some miles in the rain, I noticed that the rubber washer was sealing the bottom of the fork crown and preventing water that got in there from draining out. In fact, the water was migrating upward (the only way it could go, really) and escaping around the stem. I checked with Velo Orange, who sold me the fenders, and they said they hadn't heard of this problem before, but that it could perhaps be remedied by drilling a hole through the washers. Has anybody else had this problem, and if so, how did you fix it? I'm concerned about water being trapped inside the steerer (I drained everything by disassembling the fender mount, but that's a pain to do on a regular basis). Thanks in advance. --Eric Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Daruma Bolt Question
I am an idiot. Do not delete the rubber washer. Here is the setup I meant to write the first time around: the setup is fork crown, METAL WASHER, rubber washer, fender, small metal washer, locknut Sorry to add to the confusion. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: That's very helpful! The photo helps a lot--I will reassemble it like that before it rains. --Eric Sent from my iPad On Aug 3, 2010, at 11:30 AM, John McMurry johnmcmu...@gmail.com wrote: On Aug 3, 2:01 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Wondering if anybody else has had this problem with the daruma fork crown bolt that comes with some Honjo fenders. Basically, the daruma includes a rubber washer that seals against the bottom of the fork crown; a metal fender washer sits between the rubber washer and the fender. After I installed the fenders and got in some miles in the rain, I noticed that the rubber washer was sealing the bottom of the fork crown and preventing water that got in there from draining out. In fact, the water was migrating upward (the only way it could go, really) and escaping around the stem. Yeah, this can be a problem with the daruma setup. I've noticed increased condensation and surface rust inside the steer tube of bikes that use this setup (I've since cleaned them thoroughly, sprayed a rust preventative in the tube, and inspect annually). Though, I do think that you have the parts arranged incorrectly, which would exasperate this issue. From the fender crown downward, the metal fender washer should be installed, then the rubber washer, then the fender. The metal washer doesn't provide a water tight seal, and therefore allows water/sweat to drain. Peter White has an example photo on his website: http://peterwhitecycles.com/images/products/Accessories/bertffcb.jpg John McMurry Burlington, VT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: What happened to the Bell Metro?
If Scott can't find his. I have one too. Worn once but looks like new. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 4:16 PM, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Lemme check our basement... I think we might have a Metro w/all the xtras, brand new and unopened. If we didn't give it away before our last move, you can have it for free [pay something forward to someone else at some point, if that's okay and not too pushy of me to request?]. I stopped wearing a helmet last year, so I think we might have a new unopened Metro [and I know for certain we have my used one]. Actually, I'll ask my wife [she's the Keeper of All-Things-Basement]. -Scott On Jun 21, 2:00 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: I love my large Metro, its mirror, the back strap for a blinky, the round shape, the snaps for a rain cover. I stocked up on an extra Metro last year, or the year before. Well a house guest used my extra on the hard-pack desert trail north of Fruita. My bike was OK, his lips only needed $1265 worth of stitches and the tooth will probably be saved, but...horrors!...the helmet's front foam was cracked. So a lengthy search on the net, including Rivbike.com of course, yields no large Metro available in the virtual world. At this point I would take any color though I was always partial to the white or titanium. I know, there is the Citi that will just fit my obscenely large head (as my mother likes to remind me on my birthday). But it lacks the snaps I need for the rain cover for winter riding. So does anyone know? Does Bell plan to offer a Metro or an update in the future? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: What happened to the Bell Metro?
Mine is a large in black. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.netwrote: If he takes one and anyone has another good condition one in a medium they would like to get rid of shoot me a message. On Jun 21, 7:36 pm, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote: If Scott can't find his. I have one too. Worn once but looks like new. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 4:16 PM, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Lemme check our basement... I think we might have a Metro w/all the xtras, brand new and unopened. If we didn't give it away before our last move, you can have it for free [pay something forward to someone else at some point, if that's okay and not too pushy of me to request?]. I stopped wearing a helmet last year, so I think we might have a new unopened Metro [and I know for certain we have my used one]. Actually, I'll ask my wife [she's the Keeper of All-Things-Basement]. -Scott On Jun 21, 2:00 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: I love my large Metro, its mirror, the back strap for a blinky, the round shape, the snaps for a rain cover. I stocked up on an extra Metro last year, or the year before. Well a house guest used my extra on the hard-pack desert trail north of Fruita. My bike was OK, his lips only needed $1265 worth of stitches and the tooth will probably be saved, but...horrors!...the helmet's front foam was cracked. So a lengthy search on the net, including Rivbike.com of course, yields no large Metro available in the virtual world. At this point I would take any color though I was always partial to the white or titanium. I know, there is the Citi that will just fit my obscenely large head (as my mother likes to remind me on my birthday). But it lacks the snaps I need for the rain cover for winter riding. So does anyone know? Does Bell plan to offer a Metro or an update in the future? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] New-to-me Quickbeam frame/fork pics
Hi Lee, Here is how I set up mine. Has two speeds coasting and one speed fixed. All with perfect chainline. http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/4474775806/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/4474775806/Hope this helps. Clayton On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Lee leec...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone. I just joined this group, though I've been lurking for a while. Yesterday, through a fast and fortunate series of events, I picked up a used Quickbeam frame/fork/extras. Here's a small Flickr set: http://tinyurl.com/2ctq33t I'm currently mulling over drivetrain ideas and would be happy to hear suggestions or experiences. Currently, I'm thinking I'll do fixed/free for a while to get used to the bike. Then, make changes as needed. Best, Lee SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Bleriot vs. Quickbeam efficiency
I think some of it has to do with the fact that you have to commit or walk on a single speed. Whereas on the geared bike you can always gear down and take it easy. I would imagine there are many times on the quickbeam where you shift down if you could but you don't because you can't, so you end up riding a bigger gear ultimately moving faster than you would if you could gear down. Try riding the Bleriot in just one gear that is similar to the Beam's. Are you faster or slower. Personally I only have an SS/Fixed Quickbeam bike right now but the geared one is in the works. I will report back. On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Tyler mock...@gmail.com wrote: I've had my bleriot for 2 years and my quickbeam for 1 year. I bought the quickbeam to essentially be a simpler, single-speed version of my bleriot. Since then the quickbeam has become my preferred bike. I find that I'm (empirically) more efficient on my quickbeam and don't tire as easily. After a 50 mile ride on the bleriot I feel tired; after the same ride on the quickbeam I feel fine. I don't ride with a computer on either of my bikes, the only constant being my cycling partner. I find when I'm on my bleriot that I'm regularly slower than her but when I'm on my quickbeam I'm regularly faster. I'm at the point where I only ride the bleriot if there are going to be hills that I can't tackle on my quickbeam. Being slow doesn't bother me as much as the perceived difference in efficiency. The bleriot feels like it's dragging some extra weight regardless of the gear that I'm in while the quickbeam feels like it wants to keep rolling. If the bleriot felt similarly effortless I wouldn't be bothered if it was actually slower than the quickbeam. I wish that I had a way to definitively gauge this dragging feeling. The bikes are setup very similarly: Quickbeam: 60cm frame, 700 x 32 paselas, 32h stock wheels, sugino crank with 40/32 x 16/19 gearing, noodle bars, brooks saddle, MKS touring pedals without clips/straps Bleriot: 61cm frame, 650b x 42 grand bois hetres, 36h lesnik-built wheels, sugino crank with 48/38/26 x 11-30 gearing, noodle bars, brooks saddle, MKS grip king pedals Sometimes I wonder if the hetres are just slow but that seems to go counter to the ride reports of dozens of people who ride with hetres and claim they're quite fast. I thought about swapping to cypres tires (650b x 31) but that's a $120 investment I'm not ready to drop.. especially given that I've read you won't tell much of a difference between hetres and cypres on paved roads. The quickbeam is the first single speed bike that I've owned. Is it common to find that a single speed bike is noticeably more efficient for its 1 gear relative to a multi-speed bicycle in a gear of the same gain ratio ? Can any other quickbeam owners tell me about the perceived efficiency difference between their quickbeam and their geared road bike(s)? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Bleriot vs. Quickbeam efficiency
I could imagine going up in a hill in a granny gear spinning frantically being more exhausting than muscling up it. It it might be mentally more fatiguing too. On downhills you might be tempted to pedal in a bigger gear on the geared bike as opposed to coasting on the SS. On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 6:28 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.comwrote: Whereas on the geared bike you can always gear down and take it easy. How, exactly, does this make you more tired? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: gripkings
There is a little cut out in the pedal body where the cap is pushed in. Jam and awl or other spikey object in there and leverage the cap out. At least that is how I do it. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: How did you get the plastic dust cap out? I assumed it was just threaded and tried to unscrew it with a pin tool, and all i did was mangle the pin holes, the cap didn't budge. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Bill Gibson bill.bgib...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. Go for them. Grip Kings feel like arch support, so any light shoe is a rigid bike shoe, with no hot spots. You have high efficiency, infinite pedal float to save your joints, and get-on-and-go readiness. I lube mine by pulling the plastic plug over the outboard bearings and dribbling in Phil's gooey green oil, and popping it back in. Mine don't seem to leak oil much, or at all after that treatment. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote: I say go for it. I love my 'Kings. Recently rode a fast 40 miles in Tevas and total comfort. They don't feel big, they feel good. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
