Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding
Kevin Mulcahy--yup, 48x18 seems a bit stout, but it's different on a fixie ;-) The same gear on a multispeed bike does seem harder. Maybe it's because the fixie is so much lighter and maybe it's because of the rotational inertia caused by the direct linkage of the drive train that seems to help in climbing and forward progression generally. For some of the more technical tracks I've got my eye on for this winter and spring, I may drop down to a 44 on the front. Cheers! lyle Lyle F Bogart DPT 9027 Yakima Avenue Tacoma, WA 98444 253.302.1150 On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 10:23 PM esoterica etc wrote: > > +1 for flats with spikes, although I’d eventually like to try toe straps > on some non-spiked pedals. Being able to pull up on the pedals while > grinding up a steep incline would be helpful. Don’t think I’d want to go > clipless though, because I really like riding in my trail runners, and > they’re much more comfy walking in than any clipless shoes. > > > > On Nov 24, 2018, at 12:04, Philip Williamson < > philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I just use flat spiky pedals. I used to use eggbeaters and clips n > straps. Whatever you’re comfortable with on your current bikes is probabaly > best to start with when you go fixed. > > > > Philip > > Santa Rosa, CA > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/jLNJoWv5Ow4/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: In praise of fixed mountain riding
I used to use spd pedals riding fixed but no longer do. Wide spikey pedals—race face “Chesters” or the very similar VP pedals. I run a 48x18 or 48x21 gear and, though I sometimes get to walk a steep section up, I always manage to keep my pedals while descending. On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 09:04 Philip Williamson wrote: > I just use flat spiky pedals. I used to use eggbeaters and clips n straps. > Whatever you’re comfortable with on your current bikes is probabaly best to > start with when you go fixed. > > Philip > Santa Rosa, CA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/jLNJoWv5Ow4/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Lyle F Bogart DPT 9027 Yakima Avenue Tacoma, WA 98444 253.302.1150 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Second Annual Birthday Ride
Nice report and Happy Soon-to-be Birthday! I must say, no longer living in Vermont, I do miss the Gap rides! Cheers! lyle On Monday, August 25, 2014, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: As I approach 70 (10/15) I am no longer looking for mountains to climb, neither in life nor on the bike. But once a year, I pull myself together, square off with a brute and conquer it. So yesterday, I did my now annual (two years in a row) ride up to Smugglers Notch. I took the Rambouillet but wasn’t sure it’s low double gearing (30/28) would be enough, but it was. When I got the Ram, (Sept of 2004 or 5) my first ride was an 80 mile trip to the top of the Appalachian Gap, a beast of a climb with a fair stretch of 22% grade at the top. I wanted to celebrate this year with the Ram, again. This climb goes up about 1700 feet in about 4 miles. The first mile climbs 400 feet, then there's a couple of miles of 1-2% grade before the last three miles, which gain about 1100 feet. I always stop at the entrance to Smugglers Notch Ski resort, which is just before the last three mile push, for a brief rest water and then I stop again about 1 1/2 mile later where it briefly flattens out. Take on air and water. But this time I had to stop about a half mile or so before the top to catch my breath, lower my heart rate, and rest my legs. I wondered if a 24/27 wouldn't have required that stop. That’s just before the final 12% up to the top. About this time I forgot two very important things. Why the hell I was doing this and which of the dam turns was the last one before the top. But I made it. Shouldn't have done this on a Sunday, too much traffic, but life has been very busy. Took it easy on the way down, just sat up and coasted at 40 or so. I feel pretty good now on Monday morning. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com');. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Helmet recommendations
Hey Joe, Hope you're mending well from the crash. . . This is not the least expensive helmet, but also not the priciest: http://bernunlimited.com/shop/bike/allston-440.html I have one. It's very light, very well ventilated, has removable liners (general, summer, winter) and the visor is useful in the rain or when the sun is getting low. Good luck and Cheers! lyle On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado row.n.2nowh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Joe, I hope you are recovering quickly from your crash! I would just say get a helmet that meets or exceeds all the safety criteria,fits well and provides coverage where it counts, is comfortable,has pads that can be washed remove easily and also has pads that can be replaced. And most importantly makes you look FAST! Hope you are out on your bike soon. Jon On Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:14:16 PM UTC-6, Mojo wrote: I just recently used my helmet, it is showing a crack all the way from front to back. So I am in the market for a new one. My criteria in order of diminishing importance: no tail fin so generally roundish, excellent ventilation, fit for large heads (23.5 circumference/7 1/2-7 3/4), a visor for the sun, easy to adjust, non-bright color (white would be ideal), not super expensive, I have used and liked Giros and Bells. I like the look of the Giro Aspect http://velonews.competitor. com/2013/10/bikes-and-tech/reviewed-giro-aspect-helmet_305823 or the Giro Hex http://www.rei.com/product/809812/giro-hex-bike-helmet or the Bell Stoker http://www.rei.com/product/864341/bell-stoker-bike- helmet-mens I have used the Bell Metro/Citi in the past and liked its features, but I found it hot and not well ventilated. I still have a Metro, with its rain cover, for cold season riding Thanks for your thoughts, Joe in western Colorado -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis as touring bike: best choice?
I have an Atlantis and have used it for all manner of riding (except attempts at land speed records ;-) ) but I've not yet done a true loaded tour. I have loaded the bike down quite considerably and hauled stuff around. I can say without equivocation that the Atlantis offers a far more comfortable and secure ride than my old trek 720 of the early 1980s ever did. Also, though I've not ridden an LHT, I met a fellow who did own an LHT and offered him a test-ride of the Atlantis and he felt there was no comparison--he much preferred the feel of the Atlantis. I've not ridden any of the Bruce Gordon bikes, but I had been very tempted by them in the past. Of course, a big plus, for me, with the Atlantis is the fact that it is just a lovely, lovely bicycle capable of going anywhere a rider might care to venture. So, I'd wait for the Atlantis. . . Cheers! lyle On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: The Hunqapillar isn't overkill unless he's going for light touring. If he is even thinking about doing touring on single track as an option on whatever tour he's on, the Hunqapiller would be excellent for whatever he throws at it. Obviously I'm partial to Rivendell and the ride it provides. I would wait, to the extent that I'd delay my tour if needed, to get the bike that makes the most sense for me. But then I'm highly persnickety. Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick On Sunday, May 11, 2014 3:56:17 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: I know that the Atlantis is R's most popular model (I think it is anyway) and I know many listmembers use them for touring. I asked this question on the iBoblist and got many responses, but perhaps asking it here in a more focused fashion will raise more guiding advice about the choice as loaded touring bike of the Atlantis in particular. I have a client who is a surgeon (ie, he can afford what he wants) who wants to do some loaded touring. We got to talking and I quickly recommended the Atlantis, and he was very interested. I got an email from him yesterday; apparently he had called Rivendell to ask for their catalogue and discovered that there is a 5 month waiting list for the Atlantis. My question to yawl is: considering other possibilities from the LHT to a custom Bruce Gordon, is the Atlantis, *as touring bike*, special enough to warrant a wait? Or would you advise other choices? He presently has a Trek 1420 that is about 15 years old; don't know anything about that model. What about a Hunquapillar? -- too beefy/off road built? Sam Hillborne? Me, having owned a Sam Hill and now owning a Ram with clearance for 35 mm Kojaks and fenders, I'd probably opt for the Ram for touring, flex be damned. Thanks, Patrick -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis * In yourself right now is all the place you've got. Flannery O'Connor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Losing Bike weight vs. Rider weight. Which one more effectively makes you go faster?
Michael, I must come down on the side of decreasing rider weight whenever possible, provided one is keeping within healthy parameters. If one loses weight through exercise proper diet, then one should also be stronger and fitter for it and this will further improve performance on the bike. I think, at one point, Jan Heine published an article in Bicycle Quarterly looking at whether or not modern racing bikes, with all the tech advancements, were actually faster than the bikes of the past. If I recall correctly, he found that bike had not gotten faster in the last half-century or so. . . I'd invest my time and money on improving the engine, in other words :-) Cheers! lyle On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 3:09 PM, eflayer eddie.fla...@att.net wrote: On Sunday, May 11, 2014 11:31:59 AM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Assuming the 1-manpower engine stays the same. From time to time I think of shaving weight off bikes and I wonder if it really matters for a non-racer person like me who could stand to lose 25 lbs. I think if I lost the weight it would be much easier to turn the cranks than if I shaved 4 lbs. off the bike. But I am not sure how these mechanical things work, so I was wondering. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis as touring bike: best choice?
That's very true about the choice of tires! I had armored tires on the Atlantis when I lived in Chinle, Arizona and they felt every bit of armored when riding on pavement (but they did a stunning job of preventing punctures from goat-heads!). I feel that I mitigated the on-pavement effects of the heavy, stiff tires by running at quite low pressures. I've just acquired a set of 38c Barlow Pass tires and will be test riding those in the next couple of days. On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 05/11/2014 06:11 PM, Lyle Bogart wrote: I have an Atlantis and have used it for all manner of riding (except attempts at land speed records ;-) ) but I've not yet done a true loaded tour. I have loaded the bike down quite considerably and hauled stuff around. I can say without equivocation that the Atlantis offers a far more comfortable and secure ride than my old trek 720 of the early 1980s ever did. Also, though I've not ridden an LHT, I met a fellow who did own an LHT and offered him a test-ride of the Atlantis and he felt there was no comparison--he much preferred the feel of the Atlantis. I've not ridden any of the Bruce Gordon bikes, but I had been very tempted by them in the past. I owned a Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Road Tour for 10 years. It was my commuter and my touring bike. It rode fine loaded and unloaded; not talk-like when unloaded at all. It was, however, a very stiff frame. That's good when you have 50 lb of gear loaded all over the bike, front and rear. Not as marvelous when unloaded as, say, a std diam 8/5/8 frame, in my book. Of course, a big plus, for me, with the Atlantis is the fact that it is just a lovely, lovely bicycle capable of going anywhere a rider might care to venture. It is that. Note, however, a poor choice of tires can suck all the goodess out of an Atlantis. First one I ever saw in real life, at a rest stop on a ride, the owner had just put on some kind of ride forever over acres of broken glass and barb wire armored tires and he said he was so sorry it made him hate the bicycle and regret having ever bought it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] School me on wool...
Michael, I wear mostly wool when I'm riding (or running, or rowing, or whatever) and, no, the clothing does not need to be cycling specific. My wool cycling trousers are my wool rowing trousers. Wear what you will. . . I recently cycled around the west of Ireland for a week and wore a regular wool t-shirt, sometimes a slightly heavier wool cycling specific top (an old Earth, Wind, and Rider top) and wool gaberdine trousers. I also had with me a medium weight wool sweater, wool gloves, and lightweight wool over the calf socks (from Chrome; they're wonderful). I was quite comfortable in all conditions and went from bike to cafe or pub without looking like a cyclist, whatever that means :-) Cheers! lyle On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: These days, cycling specific wool garment prices are astronomical. Goodwill has wool tops that are non cycling specific. Sometimes they have 100% Merino wool sweaters, like Gap, etc. Itch-and -fine-ness-factors aside, will these do just as well layering to keep warm and dry in the winter, and the t-shirts in the summer to keep cool and dry? Or does one have to use cycling specific wool to get the desired effects? I did have an Ibex score at Goodwill last year. 3 bucks and change for an Ibex t-shirt! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sew own frame bags?
Hi Anne, A Stephen S said, the DIY forum on bikepacking is the way to go. I've seen multiple postings with very specific details regarding fabric, dimensions, different bag-frame mounting techniques and the like, Good luck and keep us posted with your progress on this. Cheers! lyle On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: Anne, Have you been looking at the threads on bikepacking.net ? They have a forum for DIY / Make your own bags. http://www.bikepacking.net/forum/index.php/board,10.0.html Stephen On Monday, January 13, 2014 10:12:09 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: I ordered my new Krampus next week. Night blue pearl. And I want to take it camping. So I need carrying capacity. So I'm thinking about sewing a frame bag. f you have done that, what fabric did you use and where did you buy it? I'm looking at 1050 denier coated ballistics nylon or 330 or 500 denier Cordura from Seattle Fabrics, or 840 denier coated ballistics nylon or 500 denier Cordura from Quest Outfitters. I definitely want something waterproof, but I'm not sure how to choose between weight and strength. Also, if you have made a frame bag, how wide did you make it? Did you flare it at the front? What did you use for padding for the edges, if anything? How does it attach to the bike? My bike is going to be a size small. The Krampus has a sloping top tube, so that means a tiny little triangle, and lots of seatpost showing. That suggests room for another triangle-shaped bag above the top tube, in the triangle between top tube and seatpost. Has anyone tried that? -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Wool socks
+1 on the Darn Toughs. Wonderful socks... On Thursday, 12 December 2013, Nancy Seibel wrote: Darn Tough socks, made in Vermont. They are great and come with a lifetime guarantee. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
Hi Anne, I'm coming to this discussion rather late, but your most recent query leads me to ask if you've looked at the rig set-ups on bikepacking.net? One specific rig might be yamric's fargo 2 configuration. There are multiple photos and a list of whatall is in each bag. Thanks to all who've shared thoughts on this thread; very interesting! Cheers! lyle On Saturday, 2 November 2013, Anne Paulson wrote: Can someone who uses the full bikepacking setup tell me how much it holds? Assuming that the frame bag holds the food, I'm having trouble understanding how a tent (let's say the Hubba), a sleeping bag, a pad and some rainclothes and other extra clothes, plus phone and tools and things like that, can fit in a handlebar roll and a Viscacha saddlebag. And that's not even considering even the most minimal stove. On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Dan Abelson d...@abelsons.netjavascript:; wrote: I have a relevate tangle bag and a revelate mountain feed bag. I like them both a lot. They are well made, well thought out and work great. Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comjavascript:; wrote: s24o in a snow cave Done that a few times for fun... also sleep outside w/o sleeping bag on a firebed in the mid 30's. . Life is too boring too just sleep in a tent! I have one of his seatbags, very well engineered and well made. I need to get a frame bag next. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: 1985 Trek 720 -- Pics
Hey Bob, that is a beautiful Trek! I cannot justify another touring bike, given the Atlantis in my life, but those pics reminded me of the Trek 720 I had back then and it was a delight to ride, fully loaded or stripped down. Thanks for sharing the pics! I hope you find a buyer soon! Cheers! lyle On 3 November 2013 15:23, Bob linthi...@gmail.com wrote: Please send along any reasonable offers. I'm not sure of its market value, but it deserves to be ridden and enjoyed. It's almost mint, and has some seriously high-end (700c conversions) wheels, which have very few miles on them. It's a 24-inch frame, c to c. Pics of Trek 720https://plus.google.com/photos/103167269222729642323/albums/5942153217949691041?authkey=CN37mZbhu9HxdQ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] It's like having a brand new bike!
That is a lovely bike! Very nicely done!
On Tuesday, 10 September 2013, SMP wrote:
Hello bunch,
I had posed some questions a few weeks ago, as I had planned a few
upgrades to my Riv mixte.
1) Should I get a Gotham Cargo Crate or a Mark's Rack + Wald
basket?https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/dKYVxqKIzEI--
Winner: Wald
2) Should I get Gilles Berthoud Fenders or SKS Chromoplastic
Fenders?https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/VWtHGDb2swY--
Winner: SKS
3) Can I put duct tape on my
frame?https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/m-KYVmNtAjE--
Answer: No way, use Gaffer's tape
Well, I heeded your words, and I thought I would share the outcome of all
this deliberation.
*drum roll please* BEHOLD:
Bike before upgrades http://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/9716653397/ -
Honjo hammered fenders, compass tires, no front rack/basket
Bike after
upgradeshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/9719887694/in/photostream/ -
SKS fenders, Schwalbe Spicer cream tires, Mark's front rack, Wald medium
basket
Previous front-light setuphttp://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/9351531461/ -
messy
Current front-light setuphttp://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/9716661773/-
moved to the front of the basket/rack
Previous taillight setuphttp://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/9354510820/ -
it was never supposed to be a permanent solution
Current taillight setup http://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/9716663827/ -
Supernova E3 dynamo taillight.
Wire routing with pink gaffers
tapehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/9720412328/
Supernova quick release gold electrical connectors at the SS coupler
junction http://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/9717188871/in/photostream/
Thank you all for your support during this process. I am sure the
increased utility of my bicycle will definitely add to the mileage and
beausage.
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Re: [RBW] Rivs on the Great Divide, was Jamboree
Anne, I will second what D. Patrick wrote regarding the washboard riding technique. My Atlantis I have spent considerable time on the washboards in Colorado Arizona as well as on the cobblestones in Tacoma, Washington. I will say that I find it much easier to find a good riding rhythm on the washboard than I do on the cobbles. As I others have also noted, reducing tire pressure appropriately goes a long way to smoothing the road out. As one more data point, when I was out there riding those trails, I was on Schwalbe Marathon XRs, I think 45-ish wide tires. When I do ride the Divide route, I'll probably use a nice, wide cyclocross tire with a low-profile tread in the center and knobbies on the edges since one of the biggest problems for me was maintaining traction control when riding in deep-ish ruts in soft-ish sand... On Friday, 2 August 2013, Anne Paulson wrote: From what I hear, in the New Mexico portions of the trail, washboarding can't be avoided by picking a good line. At least, people riding the New Mexico section, people who were tired of day after day of washboard and had every incentive to avoid washboards, report they were unable to do so. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Cyclists' legal rights, from a cop magazine: very much worth reading.
Interesting article, Patrick. Thanks for posting it! Cheers! lyle On 1 August 2013 18:52, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: http://lawandordermag.epubxp.**com/i/144260/54http://lawandordermag.epubxp.com/i/144260/54 Very much worth reading, and thanks to the boblister who posted it on that list. I think it worth posting on this one. I, an urban commuter since roughly 1967, learned new things. Note that, with a bit of effort, you *can* save it as a PDF. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Perspective
:-) that is just awesome. . . Lyle F Bogart DPT 156 Bradford Rd Wiscasset, ME 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 On 1 August 2013 11:07, LeahFoy jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote: I promised my little boys a bike ride in the cooler hours of a hot Nevada day. My 7 yr old is SO proud of his new Specialized Hotrock in 24 in. wheels. It's candy apple red and has been outfitted with a bell and kickstand. Come fall, I will put on a rack. My 4 yr old (rides two wheels) is equally delighted with his Specialized Hotrock in 16 in. (he has bell and kickstand too, which he brags about to strangers).The older exclaimed, I have the best bike EVER! as he shot out of the driveway. The younger, hot on his heels, yelled, And my Hotrock is the best bike ever TOOO! They turned back and said, Mom, it's so sad that you don't have a Hotrock, too. I said, Yes, boys, Mommy just has to suffer with this Rivendell. You enjoy your Hotrocks. Poor Mommy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rivs on the Great Divide, was Jamboree
Anne, I've been contemplating riding the Great Divide for a couple of years now--time has been the big issue--but I will certainly ride either my Atlantis or my Rawland Drakkar (set up very much like the Atlantis, but fixed gear) when I do. I've extensively ridden both bikes over washboards and singletrack in Arizona, Colorado and, to a lesser extent, Maine. With high volume tires at fairly low pressure the Atlantis handles as well as anything else I could imagine on such terrain. Go for it! Cheers! lyle On 1 August 2013 12:21, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: I've been thinking about riding the Great Divide. But I'd need a lot of persuading to know why I would want to use one of my Atlanti instead of a bike with a front suspension and disk brakes. I've heard a lot about washboards; would a big soft tire really be enough cushioning? On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: How about a Riv tour down the Great Divide bike route? Mixed terrain, self-supported, and a rider could choose a particular part or the whole route. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Dry bag packing atop Nitto Rack
Hi Andrew, I use dry bags quite often and like them a lot--they're typically quite sturdy. The only thing to remember is that they're waterproof from within and without so don't pack away any damp or wet items in there. . . Have a great trip; where are you going? Cheers! lyle On 14 May 2013 22:56, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: I'm finalizing my gear for a trip that starts this weekend, and am finally getting to how I'll carry m'stuff. I have an old Carradice saddle bag that swings from my saddle, and I'm fitting a rear rack so I can strap a bag between Carradice and rack. It seems like a basic roll-top dry bag, 15 or 20 liter size, will be about perfect. Any comments on traveling out of a dry bag? I think I can use a thin plastic cutting board, trimmed to size, to give the bag some flat-bottom form. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks
Welcome, Leah! Ooooh, go red! And I'm not a matchy person (as my socks will attest!) but I think a red brooks on a Betty would look great. . . plus your dad needs a different saddle, right? :-) Cheers! lyle On 11 May 2013 12:33, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Go red! Objective advice from someone who matches green Brooks saddle and bar tape to his green bags on his pewter Hunqapillar! René — Sent from Mailbox https://bit.ly/SZvoJe for iPhone On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:56 AM, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.comwrote: The Betty Foy owner in the household votes to leave the honey saddle. I vote red as I have done the color matching thing with a blue brooks saddle that perfectly matches the brake cables and headset spacers on my SimpleOne. David Charlotte, NC On Friday, May 10, 2013 4:43:09 PM UTC-4, LeahFoy wrote: Hi, All! I'm Leah, and I'm happy to have discovered you! In November I managed to get my paws on my very own Rivendell Betty Foy. She's the completely perfect answer to my cycling needs. I slapped a gorgeous Brooks B68 in honey on her and it's been great. But yesterday I made the mistake of tooling around on the Brooks site and discovered that they now make a RED B 17...and it would be the exact red that all the decals and fill-ins on the lugwork are. If fit isn't a consideration, what is your opinion about swapping for the red? Will it look too matchy? Would you tire of seeing a cherry red Brooks? Should the more sensible honey color prevail? My other saddle could go to my dad, who is currently suffering with his stock Specialized saddle, so no waste there... I'd love your opinions, so thanks ahead of time! Leah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Raingear
Deacon,
I doubt it's as quiet as a cotton chambray shirt, but it is as quiet as an
old 60/40 cotton/nylon jacket I have. I absolutely cannot abide a noisy
jacket. . .
Cheers!
lyle
On 9 May 2013 22:16, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Thank you, Lyle. Could you do me a favor and tell me how much noise it
makes compared to a cotton chambray shirt? I generally avoid nylon because
it makes more noise than that.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Thursday, May 9, 2013 7:23:17 PM UTC-6, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com wrote:
Deacon, I'm coming late to this thread but I'll add my thoughts anyway.
I've used many different shells for a variety of activities such as
cycling, running including mountain and trail running, climbing, skiing,
and on and on. I've really enjoyed this jacket:
http://www.bicycleclothing.**com/Waterproof-Breathable-**
Rain-Jackets.htmlhttp://www.bicycleclothing.com/Waterproof-Breathable-Rain-Jackets.html
I've used it cycling, running, and bouldering in the high desert area of
Arizona when I worked on the Navajo Reservation, Cycling, rowing, and
running in the Pacific Northwest, and now out here in mid-coast Maine. It
is tough as nails, very well thought out, and due to the benefits of the
long pit zips and vented back, I've stayed dry enough (whatever that
means), neither soaked from within or without.
Made in the US for what that's worth and a decent price as well.
Cheers!
lyle
On 9 May 2013 19:49, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote:
Thanks, Tim. Do you, or anyone else on the list, have experience with
how much more double ventile works than single?
What sent me searching is not anything directly from yesterday, but had
I been out camping yesterday, I would have loved to be less damp when I
stopped cycling. My core was lightly damp, my arms wringably damp but not
soaked and I was toasty warm.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:14:41 PM UTC-6, Tim McNamara wrote:
Raingear simply doesn't work at keeping you dry if you are doing
something like riding up a hill. There is no point in worrying about
staying dry because it's not going to happen. You are either going to get
wet from rain or wet from sweat. The main thing is to avoid hypothermia if
it is cool and wet, especially when descending.
My single layer Ventile jacket is one of the best breathing jackets I
have used, but it is a showerproof rather than rainproof jacket. The
Greenspot jacket is double layered Ventile- less breathable but resistant
to water intrusion longer.
As for rain jackets, my Showers Pass is the best I have used. It is
well ventilated and made from eVent material. It won't keep you dry for 6
hours in a downpour, but then in those cases you should probably be
indoors. ;-) In a long soaking rain with little wind, I would prefer my
Carradice rain cape. The ventilation is about as good as it gets and just
the tops of my arms and shoulders get damp with sweat.
On May 9, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote:
In my experience if a jacket needs ventilation zips it isn't breathable
enough even with them.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Thursday, May 9, 2013 2:42:44 PM UTC-6, Norman R wrote:
I don't know ventile, but I'd like pit zips.
On Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:14:18 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
I have a single layer ventile jacket. It's great for rain/wet snow 2
hours or less, but soaks through after that (like yesterdays 6 hour
ride).
I'm looking for ideas that meet these criteria:
-- Highly breathable. No less breathable than ventile.
-- At least as hearty against brush, briers, and branches as ventile.
-- Hood option, ideally removable/stoable.
-- Shell only for year-round use.
Im considering Hilltrek's Greenspot Double Ventile, but it is pricy.
http://www.hillgear.**com**/acatalog/copy_of_Cycling_**Doub**
le_Ventile_Jacket.htmlhttp://www.hillgear.com/acatalog/copy_of_Cycling_Double_Ventile_Jacket.html
Other ideas?
With abandon,
Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: Raingear
Deacon, I'm coming late to this thread but I'll add my thoughts anyway. I've used many different shells for a variety of activities such as cycling, running including mountain and trail running, climbing, skiing, and on and on. I've really enjoyed this jacket: http://www.bicycleclothing.com/Waterproof-Breathable-Rain-Jackets.html I've used it cycling, running, and bouldering in the high desert area of Arizona when I worked on the Navajo Reservation, Cycling, rowing, and running in the Pacific Northwest, and now out here in mid-coast Maine. It is tough as nails, very well thought out, and due to the benefits of the long pit zips and vented back, I've stayed dry enough (whatever that means), neither soaked from within or without. Made in the US for what that's worth and a decent price as well. Cheers! lyle On 9 May 2013 19:49, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Thanks, Tim. Do you, or anyone else on the list, have experience with how much more double ventile works than single? What sent me searching is not anything directly from yesterday, but had I been out camping yesterday, I would have loved to be less damp when I stopped cycling. My core was lightly damp, my arms wringably damp but not soaked and I was toasty warm. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:14:41 PM UTC-6, Tim McNamara wrote: Raingear simply doesn't work at keeping you dry if you are doing something like riding up a hill. There is no point in worrying about staying dry because it's not going to happen. You are either going to get wet from rain or wet from sweat. The main thing is to avoid hypothermia if it is cool and wet, especially when descending. My single layer Ventile jacket is one of the best breathing jackets I have used, but it is a showerproof rather than rainproof jacket. The Greenspot jacket is double layered Ventile- less breathable but resistant to water intrusion longer. As for rain jackets, my Showers Pass is the best I have used. It is well ventilated and made from eVent material. It won't keep you dry for 6 hours in a downpour, but then in those cases you should probably be indoors. ;-) In a long soaking rain with little wind, I would prefer my Carradice rain cape. The ventilation is about as good as it gets and just the tops of my arms and shoulders get damp with sweat. On May 9, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: In my experience if a jacket needs ventilation zips it isn't breathable enough even with them. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, May 9, 2013 2:42:44 PM UTC-6, Norman R wrote: I don't know ventile, but I'd like pit zips. On Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:14:18 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: I have a single layer ventile jacket. It's great for rain/wet snow 2 hours or less, but soaks through after that (like yesterdays 6 hour ride). I'm looking for ideas that meet these criteria: -- Highly breathable. No less breathable than ventile. -- At least as hearty against brush, briers, and branches as ventile. -- Hood option, ideally removable/stoable. -- Shell only for year-round use. Im considering Hilltrek's Greenspot Double Ventile, but it is pricy. http://www.hillgear.**com/acatalog/copy_of_Cycling_** Double_Ventile_Jacket.htmlhttp://www.hillgear.com/acatalog/copy_of_Cycling_Double_Ventile_Jacket.html Other ideas? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit
Re: [RBW] Nice to Ride the Bombadil again..
Kelly, that is just a lovely bike! Enjoy. . . On 1 May 2013 14:10, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.comwrote: These should work, Kelly – and they’re great for a whole variety of uses. http://www.bikebagshop.com/tubus-extension-adapter-p-1030.html ** ** *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Kelly *Sent:* Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:59 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [RBW] Nice to Ride the Bombadil again.. ** ** Well it's great to ride the Bombadil again.. it's just a ride like no other bike I have. ** ** I got the fenders on and then the large rear rack was to short to be mounted. Trying to figure out how to or where or what to use for extenders to raise it. ** ** I need to stretch the leather on the B17 since it's making some noise. (hate doing that) ** ** Have to mount the front lowrider to check clearance then cut the fender stays if all looks good. ** ** Get the E-Delux head light I loaned out back. Get that mounted --- oops need rear rack solution before light mountings. ** ** Clean up the leftover wax in places I didn't buff out. ** ** Little crap... but it's useless without lights. ** ** I did get to ride it to lunch today which was sweet. ** ** Here it is so far. ** ** http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8698580829/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8698582937/in/photostream/ ** ** Riding for fun is the only way for me.. ** ** Kelly ** ** ** ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Not too many people actively posting on this site for such a big amount of Rivs released to the wild over the years.
I am an infrequent poster here, but I must say that I find this list to be an invaluable resource. I think I learn something new every day through this forum; I have very little to offer from a bike-tech perspective but I do typically chime in when someone posts about the various physical aches and pains which might arise when riding--I stick with my strengths and try to add information which hopefully helps some folks out :-) By way of a preview, I will be posting about an upcoming trip the Atlantis and I will be going on throughout the west of Ireland. . . there will be pics, of course, and pints ;-) Cheers! lyle On 30 April 2013 11:27, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: I think the number of active posters to this lis is fine... the traffic volume is manageable. RE: becoming un-moderated... I had the same delayed posts frustrations when I was moderated and decided that I would post at least one trip report w/ pics per week until I was unmoderated. It took about a month. I'm pretty sure Cyclofiend Jim puts more time into this group than most of us realize. Thanks, Jim. --Smitty On Sunday, April 28, 2013 8:30:12 AM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Curious, especially since it is such a niche market in the scope of the modern bike scene in the US. You would think that customers would be interested in finding a forum for some fun chatting on these bikes. I know there are like 3k members on here I think I read, but seems only a handlful actively participate. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil for self-defense
That is fantastic! On 30 April 2013 15:52, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I like how a heavy duty pump could double as a club, hahaha. On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Cool page! Notife the ancient ftyle of riding the faddle all the way forward on the railf. forry for the feventeen Hundred fpeak. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Eight Days Around Eastern Oregon
Nice pics, Andy! I sure do miss that area; loved the stained glass at the church! Thanks for posting the pics. . . Cheers! lyle On 29 April 2013 18:29, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: I saw these and instantly was jealous! So sweet pictures Andy! No snow angel? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Crank Length Question
Just remember that if you drop the saddle far enough to reach the pedal on the 180s in the bottom position, you've also raised the pedal in the top position; this might not be the most beneficial from a comfort perspective, a power transmission perspective or a biomechanical/knee stress perspective. On 29 April 2013 19:02, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.comwrote: I dunno, sounds like you're digging pretty deep for an excuse to tinker, haha! Why the Hell not! Let us all know how it goes. Shimano XT is available to 185 mm I think. Surly Mr Whirly too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction
Welcome, Takashi! A lovely bike you have there! Thanks for posting the photos. Cheers! lyle On 26 April 2013 11:42, john johnco...@comcast.net wrote: I want to visit Japan! I want to ride everywhere! Especially Hokaido (sp?). Thanks for sharing photos. Truly inspiring. -John On Friday, April 26, 2013 8:16:58 AM UTC-7, clayton wrote: Welcome Takashi! Nice bike. Nice photos. On Thursday, April 25, 2013 7:17:38 AM UTC-7, Takashi wrote: Hi all, I have been following this group for a while, and I am posting for the first time to introduce myself. I bought Hunqapillar in last April, and I'm enjoying it very much. I also enjoy reading posts in this group. Lots of nice ride reports and informations. I might not post frequently though, since I am not a native speaker of English, and I have to work hard to read/write in English. Photos of my Hunqapillar: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**77318553@N08/sets/**72157629584056500/http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/sets/72157629584056500/ Takashi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the Riv-ish bicycle marketplace
I see tons of people on steel bikes with the handlebars up high riding around Burlington, VT. Ah, that's probably thanks to the fine folks at the Old Spokes Home! Great bunch there! Cheers! lyle On 20 April 2013 18:20, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: I am obviously not plugged into the bike store world, but I can say I see tons of people on steel bikes with the handlebars up high riding around Burlington, VT. It brings a smile to my face pretty much every time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddle bags...do you leave 'em on or take 'em off when out in public?
I leave mine on for the very reason you've mentioned; I've had no problems so far. As a matter of habit, I don't leave things like the camera or my wallet in it when the bike's unattended for long. Cheers! lyle On 19 April 2013 00:51, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: My carradice is time consuming to take on and off. I recently got a new sprung saddle that makes it near impossible to get the straps thru the loops in less than a few minutes. I don't want to add more clutter on the bike with a QR. Just wondering if it is feasable to just leave it on when out in public, or is that inviting trouble. What do you all do? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: The last OT Post | Off Topic Group Recommendations
Aren't we the only Friction Shifting in an Indexing World group? and a fine group to belong to, I'd say! On 18 April 2013 12:28, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: Aren't we the only Friction Shifting in an Indexing World group? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
Nicely stated, and thanks for all the work you do! Cheers! lyle On 17 April 2013 02:08, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: As we make our way out of the winter, I know every one is getting excited about spring riding. Even in the parts of the world where they have real winters, things are looking good. Over the past few weeks, mostly related to enthusiasm for riding, there seems to have been a steady increase in the amount of topics not related to the focus of this group. It's not to the point where it's a problem, but given the size of this bunch and the tendency towards entropy, I thought it might be a good moment to articulate it. This group has continued to grow steadily. We're now north of 2,300 membersand last month there were in excess of 2,000 posts. As I've written before, 1,000 members was a big milestone, and more than twice that is a bit mind-boggling. So, I have to start by thanking everyone who has continued to make this a positive and interesting discussion. I especially thank those who have been regular in sharing, answering and hanging out here since we threw the doors open. One of the basic underpinnings of this group is to define ourselves by what we are, rather than what we are not. As an example, I don't think that Rivendell has ever said they are anti-racing. Rather, they emphasize the things they enjoy - riding bicycles where ever they can under any conditions, camping under the stars, being comfortable - in short, just enjoying the ride. That way, you don't have to have an argument about racing vs. comfort. You can have a discussion about what is great about either. And to say it very plainly, this list is about discussion. I've mentioned before one of the ways I think about this list - as a public house where ideas are easily shared between those who have arrived, everyone is present because they want to be, and passing through the doors means that baggage is left outside. It takes the agreement of all to make that work. The wonderful thing is that by and large, that continues to be the case. The quality of discussions remain high. The slight downside is that because of the level of discourse, it periodically gets distracted. That's a very natural condition - after all, when you are with folks who have good ideas and thoughts, who manage to state them clearly and in ways that are optimistic and well-thought-through, you want to seek their opinions on other topics as well. The caution flag I'd like to raise is that the very narrowness of this list is what gives rise to that high quality. It's important to remember that if you are tagging your post OT or Off Topic, then it doesn't belong on this list. General questions are best posted to more general lists. Just by staying on topic, we're going to generate a fair amount of traffic. One of the hallmarks of this list has been a very high signal to noise ratio. It's solid information from the people using and thinking about the items. And we've gotten to know one another pretty well, generated real, live get-togethers among the members. As the photos from recent regional rides, there's a lot to cover just within the stated topic of this group. All good stuff. No... GREAT stuff. Take a new friend riding this month, and make sure they finish with a big smile. Tone is a critical issue. My view is simple: life is too short. If you can't stay positive or at least polite, it's time to put down the keyboard and take a break. We all get enough guff in our everyday existence that we don't need to add to it here. As I've said before, disagreement is expected. There's no way we will all come to the same conclusion about anything, and I think it would be a more boring world if we did. But, here, under this roof, we agree to disagree with respect for one another. To finish, I'll repeat what I said in the last full-length SOTLR (wow, was it really 2010?) - it is important as we grow to honor the relatively narrow focus of this group, even though it's tempting to have more general topics discussed here. Clearly, it's a bit of an imperfect border, but one which we've largely maintained. Letting discussions end as they creep toward more general topics, not having to have the last comment (or needing to win the argument) and, above all, maintaining the respect for one another within the group is what makes this list special. As always, thanks again for contributing to or simply enjoying the discussions. - Jim Jim Edgar / Cyclofiend.com / List Admin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For
[RBW] Cycling Education in the Netherlands
Hey All, I know, I know, we're not the Netherlands, but I found this video on cycling education interesting. It really is a shame we've nothing like this here. Cheers! lyle -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Blues..
h, that's pretty! On 10 April 2013 08:03, qwerty mike.gilles...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I recently came across this shade of blue on a Hilsen seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/luvmypwds/3763198868/in/set-72157621864765964 Must be a custom color, as it doesn't look like any other shade of Hilsen blue I've seen. From what I can see in this single picture, I really like it, and wish I could find another showing the complete bike. Anyone know more about it? Mike G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Cycling Education in the Netherlands
Tea must've been too weak this morning!
http://www.freerangekids.com/just-like-drivers-ed-except-for-younger-kids-bikes/
On 10 April 2013 08:10, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:
no link
On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:05:49 AM UTC-5, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.comwrote:
Hey All,
I know, I know, we're not the Netherlands, but I found this video on
cycling education interesting. It really is a shame we've nothing like this
here.
Cheers!
lyle
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Re: [RBW] Decent $500-$600 off the shelf bike???
Hey Dustin, How about an Africa Bike? http://www.konaworld.com/bike.cfm?content=africabike_three On 10 April 2013 16:47, Scot Brooks scothinck...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, correction they're Town Ride tires 700x42c or 26x1.75 depending on frame size. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS 64 cm Atlantis - custom blue
Hi Drew! That is a sweet looking Atlantis! I'm going to second Tony's recommendation to try a set of fat knobby-type tires before parting with that bike. I've extensively used my Atlantis with Schwalbe Marathon XRs (700x40) on the trails and primitive roads on the Navajo Rez in the four corners area of Arizona and the riding is very similar to the trails in the Front Range area. The Atlantis is a great off-road bike with the right tires. Oh, and with the 700x40 XRs, there still miles of space, so easy enough to go much fatter. Good Luck! lyle On 5 April 2013 12:01, Tonester tony.mad...@gmail.com wrote: Hey there! I'm a fellow custom color Atlantis owner (red!) and totally get your dilemma - fortunately I'm able to maintain a stable of bikes so the temptation to sell the Atlantis doesn't come up. I fed my jones for a 29'er disc brake bike with a Civilian Luddite and love it, but not to the extent of choosing it over the Riv. Have you tried super-fat semi-knobs on the Atlantis? Looks like the Ogre will handle up to a 2.5 tire , and I've seen Atlantii with 50mm slicks which is nearly 2. I'd whip a set of knobbies on the Atlantis and give it a go before giving it up. I think that yellow all-rounder that hit the list recently is one of the coolest bikes I've ever seen. Best of luck in any event! Tony On Thursday, April 4, 2013 6:52:06 PM UTC-7, drewjensen wrote: Hey everyone - I moved to the Boulder area a couple of years ago and there are so many great trails here compared to where I lived in the Bay Area for so long. I've taken my Atlantis out on them, but my wife has tired of my suggesting new ways to retrofit it to make better use of the trails and so talked me into a Surly Ogre works a little better on the trails around here. It's not an Atlantis, but I think it's the right tool for this job. Alas, though, I need to do the fiscally responsible move and sell off my Atlantis. I got it in 2006 when they were still Toyo made and had it painted a dark blue that I liked. I had to save money for it for a couple of years and took great pains to get the best parts I could afford/justify for it. Really, the only corner I can think that I cut was that I didn't get Phil Wood hubs but I stand behind all of my other choices in putting it together. Anyway, it's a sad day, but a necessary one. If you know anyone looking for a 64 please pass along the information. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask. Thanks for your time. Drew Here's a link to my local CL listing: http://boulder.craigslist.** org/bik/3723729971.htmlhttp://boulder.craigslist.org/bik/3723729971.html (note to moderator: I attempted to use the tag, but got an error indicating that the tag was not for use in this forum) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Get a Betty Foy, old man
You know, the findings in that study are interesting (though I concede I've not read the actual study yet). Living in the state with the oldest population, I treat a lot of older cyclists. Many of the men have a variety of hip and/or balance issues which make mounting/dismounting their bikes difficult and a touch risky. I've suggested a step-through frame to several of them and am consistently met with I am not going to ride a girl's bike! Ah well. . . I can say that, after having ridden my wife's Betty, I want one just 'cause they're delightful bikes. Cheers! lyle On 2 April 2013 13:43, Norman Bone bone1...@yahoo.com wrote: Study says old men should ride B. Foys. http://www.thelocal.se/47064/20130331/#.UVsYP0rDmRJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of Photos. (Kinda off topic)
Manny, I can't really offer any advice beyond that which has been offered by others already, but I will take this opportunity to further compliment you on your photography--I always enjoy the photos you post. The Merry Sales cover shot is fantastic and I also like the one along the Nestucca River Road on pg. 6. You have talent, Manny! Cheers! lyle On 2 April 2013 13:00, Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Manny, I enjoy your pics and write ups. I think you capture great parts of cycling, the Bay Area, and people. A few points if you start selling photos: - You'll need to get permission from people. For example, the Merry Sales catalog cover shows a person who is recognizable, and I think a Model Release would be required. - You may need permission from parks or private areas. - Certain events may require permission (e.g., races). The above starts to get all legal, but when you move into commercial work the personal-use exemption does not apply. One [simple] thing to protect your photos from appearing in print without your permission is to limit the upload size of the image to Flickr. Presently, your account permits download of large (printable) size images. Best wishes, shoji On Monday, April 1, 2013 5:43:31 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: I agree on all counts - it can cost a lot to license a photo. Getty Images charges BANK ($1000+ for a temporary license). Speaking of which, you can flag your Flickr pictures to be eligible for licensing through Getty. Tag the bejeezus out of them. You can also sell your photos through Dreamstime.com, http://www.** dreamstime.com/sellimages http://www.dreamstime.com/sellimages Istockphoto.com (http://www.istockphoto.com/**sell-stock-photos.phphttp://www.istockphoto.com/sell-stock-photos.php ) I've bought from them both at different jobs. They're pretty popular with designers, because they're cheap, and I've had better luck with Dreamstime for bigger photos and better variation from the same photographers. That indicates to me that maybe they pay better? As a contributor, tag your photos well, so they can be found. It takes practice: if you were looking for an image that looked exactly like this, what keywords would you use? Even as a web designer, I don't design sites for myself. I would just use WordPress (free), and a cheap photography template. Let the pictures do the talking. You're pretty comfortable on Flickr, so I'd keep that my focus, and join some groups for semi-pro photographers. Use the site to point people toward your Flickr stream, which is already active with people saying how fantastic the images are. Also link very obviously to any stock photo services you work with. Bon courage and good luck! Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, April 1, 2013 1:40:43 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: I very much enjoy your photos and think they have plenty of marketable value. Just because you're not a professional does not mean you don't take incredible photos. I agree with the ladyfriend *especially* when it's a business wanting to use your photos. I cannot believe Merry Sales approached you without some offer of remuneration!? And for their cover no less! It's one thing to turn down payment or negotiate other arrangements, but straight up can we have it? that's just rude in my opinion. Reverse the scenario, how would they have responded if you (or anyone else for that matter) contacted them and asked for free bike parts? I'll just hazard a guess they'd tell you to hit the road. You need to be as confident as your photographs sir! They're fantastic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New AHH Owner Intro
Welcome Congratulations, Jack! Cheers! lyle On 16 March 2013 02:13, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats, Jack - I hope you enjoy your Homer as much as I have enjoyed mine! Brian Seattle, WA On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:08 AM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.comwrote: Ahhh, congratulations no getting your first Rivendell bike. The first of many... I'm sure! I also got started with an AHH and now have an Atlantis, a Betty and a Hunqapillar. I'm waiting for my 14 year old son to grow a bit more so he can ride the AHH and get the taste of what a fantastic bike rides like... René On Friday, March 15, 2013, Deacon Patrick wrote: Welcome and congratulations! WIth abandon, Patrick On Friday, March 15, 2013 10:11:53 AM UTC-6, NWAJack wrote: Although I've posted a few things on here, I just wanted to introduce myself. I've just become the proud owner of a new A. Homer Hilsen, my first Riv. I'm 50 years old and about 30 pounds overweight. 7 years ago I was 100+ pounds overweight, started running and eating better, and lost a lot. Over time my knees started giving me trouble, and so I took up cycling about 4 years ago, migrating more and more to the bike. I had purchased a Trek 1.2, and really found I enjoyed riding. Then I found GPs book, and identified very stongly with what he said. I really thought about the type of riding I wanted to do - long rides through the countryside, comfort, abillity too add multple bags or racks, etc. So I ended up ordering the AHH in November. Some delays but I got the bike last week. I've never been so impressed by a purchse or a company. Heck - I even got a Thank You card in the mail yesterday from RIV - signed by everyone. I'm a convert, and can't wait to get out on a nice long ride tomorrow. Have a good weekend everyone! Jack Northwest Arkansas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: “Paleofantasy”: Stone Age delusions - Is Grant Eating the Wrong Stuff?
Doesnt anyone have a spring first ride report? My ten year old daughter does! Well, that is, if starting to commute by bike from home to school to the barn (for 4H) to the library and back home counts :-) Cheers! lyle On 13 March 2013 15:58, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I think we should abandon this thread, it was only vaguely related to bikes and now has way gone off on a tangent. Doesnt anyone have a spring first ride report? I plan to have one soon, thankfully. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.comwrote: Wrong here too. In third world countries, herders are seeing the highest yields they've known returning to dense herds on grass. It helps reclaim land lost to desert bey promoting more growth. It turns unproductive land into productive land and feeds a lot more people. Check this TED Talk out: http://www.ted.com/talks/allan_savory_how_to_green_the_world_s_deserts_and_reverse_climate_change.html With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 9:31:10 AM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote: Grains are grass. In addition - and my primary problem with the whole paleo fad is with the increase in human population world wide, the amount of land available to 'grass' feed herbivores is shrinking both through human development and climate change. In the United States alone, currently the amount of range animals is the lowest it has been since the 1950s. At the same time, global fisheries are stressed to the point total collapse is a matter of if, not when. Even if you do not think converting the Amazon rain forest to pasture will have a delitorious impact on the global environment, the fact remains the added range land will not be sufficient to allow humanity to adopt a meat heavy diet. Unless the paleo advocates can come up with either a new source of ranges and some radical clean up of our waterways along with a magic way to get fish to reproduce more, the world will be far better off considering diets that use legumes as the primary protien source as the acerage requirement is significantly lower. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hi from Kai, Hillborne roller and web enthusiast
Welcome, Kai! Nice bike--I really like that shade of green! Cheers! lyle On 13 March 2013 16:10, Bryan bwedg...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Kai I like the stickers and the overall burliness of your Hillborne. Looks like you actually use the thing! Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: London Mayor makes Grantesque statement when announcing new cycling infrastructure push
Love it! De-Lycrafy. . . what a lovely notion! Cheers! lyle On 12 March 2013 10:18, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Brilliant! Perhaps we shall see more tweed jackets and bowler hats on bicycle ? On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:45:10 AM UTC-4, Matthew J wrote: For those who do not also subscribe to the Bicycletouring Google Group, Mark Hoagy linked this article on London's (impressive!) push to expand cycling infrastructure. http://oilprice.com/Latest-**Energy-News/World-News/Mayor-** of-London-to-Invest-1-Billion-**in-Bicycle-Infrastructure.htmlhttp://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Mayor-of-London-to-Invest-1-Billion-in-Bicycle-Infrastructure.html I am especially tickled with the quote that London hopes to de-Lycrafy cycling for Londoners. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] First commute on fixed SO
David, Congratulations on your foray into fixed gear riding! As Patrick mentioned, climbing is fun on a fixed gear--I don't know why, but it really is--but I must say I don't mind the downhills. I've had some pretty ferocious spins going in the past but, if I try to actually keep up with the pedal speed, I find it fairly easy to do. Sort of a relaxed, high-speed spin with minimal resistance. Give yourself time to acclimate and you may be very pleased with the fixed gear experience. Oh, as a data point, I'm 52 and started riding fixed in my early 40s; I typically have the bike geared at 48x18 to 48x20. Cheers! lyle On 11 March 2013 12:48, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: David: Welcome to the fixed gear club. You do know, do you not, that there is now no turning back? No, none at all. Downhills are the biggest bane of fixed gear riding. Uphills are fine once you develop your high torque muscles and, even more important, your mental outlook: you learn to pace yourself. Heck, hills are even fun -- I love climbing long, moderately graded hills. You learn to stand for extended periods without going anaerobic, and you learn when your knees prefer you to stand. But for downhills I've learned that the trick is, not to let your speed build up. I started with a small gear: 63 or so, IIRC, and quickly found that flailing along on the flats was annoying. I gradually upped my ratio until now I prefer something in the mid 60s to the mid 70s depending on total bike weight. I've even thought of gearing my gofast from 46/15 (24.5 650C X 22mm wheels) to 48X15. In all seriousness, give it sufficient time. I personally love riding fixed more than any other kind of riding -- tho' I must say that, yesterday, I did appreciate the 31 gear on the Fargo when schlepping 30 lb of groceries up a very steep hill against a headwind. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:28 AM, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com wrote: 50 years old and I had never tried fixed gear, so I built a fixed/free wheel for my SimpleOne over the weekend. Not sure I am in love with fixed, but I will give it a couple of weeks before flipping it to the free side. Think I will have to relearn habits. I have a couple of big hills to roll down on the way to work and I picked up speed too fast. My legs did not like spinning so fast. Put on a set of Bullmoose bars as well. I am definitely liking them more than the mustache I had on there (though I do still like the mustache). David Charlotte, NC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- __ BUSINESS BUILDING COME-ON!! $300 off a $600 resume + letter or Linked In profile package with referral that leads to full price sale! Refer two full-pay clients and you get the package for free! I am not cheap, but I am very good. So they say. Patrick Moore, Ph.D, MBA, ACRW, Albuquerque, NM, USA http://resumespecialties.com/index.html * patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 64/66cm Orange Ram
Oh, very nice. . . and my size. . . must. . . resist. . . Cheers! lyle On 7 March 2013 18:20, Ryan Ray ryanr...@gmail.com wrote: Settled on $1400 plus shipping but I'm going to hold it for a local guy this weekend. I'll bump the post Monday if he doesn't pick it up. - Ryan On Thursday, March 7, 2013 1:59:33 PM UTC-8, Ryan Ray wrote: Oops, here are some photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/**ryanrray/8413561391/in/**photostreamhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanrray/8413561391/in/photostream - Ryan On Thursday, March 7, 2013 12:45:27 PM UTC-8, Ryan Ray wrote: I have the opportunity to pick up one of two really big, big dummies for a great price. So, I'm selling my other pricey bike perfect for the rides I don't have time for anymore. This is exploratory a bit. I'm not sure i could part with it but if I can get the right price I will. After that family bike post here the other day I went from thinking about a big dummy to actually wanting to buy one to finding one on CL and remember a list member in the area had one as well. 66 c to t Orange All parts less than 2 years old other than headset/bb/seat post. Xt rapid rise Big noodles Tektro levers Brand new tektro brakes, the new model XD2 triple Mks touring pedals New 32mm pasela TGs New sks p45s with a VO leather flap 105/open sport wheelset All new cables/housing I'm sure I'm forgetting some detail. I would also be interested in a partial trade for a cheap skinny tire ok steel road bike for the rare occasions I will get out when it's not raining. But not more than a few hindered dollars. I need the rest of the cash for the big dummy. If you are interested please send me an offer. - Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Work Shop Advice II
Hey George, While I do not have the wall mount (mine's going on a very heavy work bench; bench-top height of 32), I would recommend mounting it at the same height you find most comfortable with your stand-alone bike stand. And, as Patrick wrote, pics when the shop is done :) Cheers! lyle On 4 March 2013 11:12, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Please post photos of the workshop when it is finished -- thanks! On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:27 AM, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote: My new work shop is coming along and the contractor has started asking me about the interior. I have a Park bike stand that I use all the time and that I intend to use in the new shop. I find that stand inadequate for some jobs, particularly those requiring the application of significant torque (removing fixed cup, the occasional recalcitrant seat post, etc.) So, I purchased a Park wall-mounted bike clamp. It came with no instructions. Anyone have any advice on how far off the floor to install this thing? 700c wheels touching the floor? A couple of inches of additional space? Higher? This clamp has to be screwed into a stud, so I don't want to get it right the first time if possible. Thanks. GeorgeS New Orleans -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Introduction
Welcome! I agree with Bob--that's a fine looking Hillborne! Cheers! lyle On 3 March 2013 15:14, Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome! You'll find a wealth of information and plenty of support around here, I know I have. That's a sweet looking bike and I love the M-bars. I had them on my Quickbeam for years till I switched looks. They'll be going on another bike soon. Aloha, Bob -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI statrix.com On Saturday, March 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Kellie Stapleton wrote: Just joined this group recently after picking up my new Hillborne from RBW HQ the beginning of Feb. Love the atmosphere here, and my new bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sunday: wind, sand, sun, cold.
Nice pics, Patrick--makes me miss being in Chinle, AZ where I developed an affinity for deep sand and goatheads :) I've got to move back to the 'Rez someday. . . Cheers! lyle On 25 February 2013 09:29, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, try it now: https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALESACEQUIAROADS022413?authkey=Gv1sRgCO_J2LeRoK74Cw On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:19 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick your page cannot be found. Love to pics of your adventure. At least you had your brother along to share the experience. Hugh Sunland, CA On Sunday, February 24, 2013 5:09:37 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/**BERTIN753/** NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALE**SACEQUIAROADS022413https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/NORTHOFALAMEDAANDEASTOFCORRALESACEQUIAROADS022413 I rode to church (~8 miles), then, later, back to Sprouts (our low budget Wild Oats) to meet my brother to explore the acequia roads between Corrales and Bernalillo. Firm but gravely hardpack and sand swamps. And goatheads. My brother flatted twice on the 15 mile out and back; not me, despite flicking a couple of deeply buried thorns from my front tire. Eastbound I spun out my 83 high gear on pavement thanks to a strong NWesterly, but we tcould only grun along slowly northbound on the raised and exposed service roads. After dropping pressure to ~12/15 the sand was easy. Riding back west to our starting point, into steady 33 mph NWesterlies, my brother quipped, between gasps, world's sorriest paceline as we grunted along at 12 mph on pavement. Temps in the low 30s. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] A bike to grow old with?
Greetings Mark! I'll second Jim W's recommendation of the Atlantis. I have one and can't imagine I'll ever part with it. In fact, when I was in the selection process leading up to the Atlantis, my primary criterion was the only bike I'll ever need. That said, I really enjoy riding my wife's (too small for me) Betty Foy. It's a delightful bike and, with the step-through frame, it (and the more manly Yves Gomez) would make an excellent bike for the later years. Good Luck! lyle On 15 February 2013 16:14, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: The decision needs to take into account how much loaded touring or offroad riding you would like to do on the bike. If you're not sure and want a bike that can do anything, get the Atlantis if the $2300 price for Frame/Fork isn't too steep. That bike in your size should have 1 top tube. The Hillborne would be a slightly more economical form of the something similar, a bit less tire clearance, extra TT that you don't want, frame designed around fewer sizes so maybe not as glove-like in fit, but $1000 less. I myself was not a double top-tube fan, but now that I've been riding a bike with one, it seems totally normal. -Jim W. On Feb 14, 2013, at 2:19 PM, marktain...@gmail.com wrote: New member to the group here. Just retired last spring after teaching for 38 yrs and am thinking that I deserve a new bike to ride during my retirement. Seeing Keven's proto-Appaloosa on the Riv website, I noticed the quote that the Appaloosa was a bike to grow old with. Since the Appaloosa isn't yet available, any recommendations for which other Riv would be a bike to grow old with. (My kids already think I'm old, but nevermind!) I like the price of the Sam, but can't get used to the double top tube. Last time I checked, my PBH was 86.5 cm. Thoughts? Anyone have a Riv for sale that could work for me? Thanks, Mark Taintor Chanhassen, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x33 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Roadeo pictures
Toshi, that is a lovely bike! Enjoy! lyle On 4 February 2013 11:58, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote: Kojaks feel good on this frameset. They didn't feel quite right on the Ram for some reason. I have an event wheelset with Grand Bois Cypres tires, but haven't tried them on this bike yet. Toshi On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:30 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty -- RB-1-esque. How do you like the Kojaks? I should think one of the fat 700c Grand Bois tires would be a natural for this bike and be even faster. On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote: Took a short but wonderful ride on the bike today, and I saw Brian from Riv out and about with a couple of his friends. Here are pics I took: http://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/sets/72157632686324800/ Toshi in Oakland. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tip for riding in the rain with eye glasses...
+1 on Rain-X. On 24 January 2013 18:26, Charlie charliepe...@verizon.net wrote: I do not ride in the rain. BUT : Just read about wearing sun glassea to see better when driving a car in the rain. and try Rain-X on the glassses, used to use it on racecar helmet shields in the rain.SportsCarClub of America = SCCA races in the rain.Open wheel cars with no windshield. Charlie On Jan 24, 2:59 pm, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: One of my unstated goals for this year was to ride and commute even if it's raining. I'm overcoming a whole bunch of mental barriers and I'm mostly well equipped now to ride comfortably in the normal California rain. However, the one detail that keeps baffling me is what to do with my eye glasses. With light rain/showers, I don't mind the drops that accumulate slowly on them, but with heavier rain or prolongued showers, at some point it becomes hard to see anything that isn't distorted by water drops. How do you rain riders manage with this issue? Thanks for the tips! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: 1 bike? Could you do it?
An interesting thread. . . I've an Atlantis which is almost The Perfect Bike for me and I've also an early fixed-gear-only version of a Rawland Drakkar. If the Atlantis had the capacity to become a fixed gear with a simple swap o' the wheel it would be The Perfect Bike. . . perhaps I should have the Atlantis modified with horizontal drop outs. . . Cheers! lyle On 23 January 2013 07:01, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure I could get down to only one. Have thought about it with my Cross Check. Then have a second wheelset for when I want to ride single speed. But then I want the fatter tires that are on my LHT. A 61cm Atlantis would probably be able to cover it all for me. But then I'd feel really guilty riding it in winter and getting it covered in salt. Even with fenders. So then would end up getting a Cross Check or similar bike as a beater and then am back on the multiple bike wagon. As it is, have been contemplating adding yet another bike to the stable, a blue 60cm Sam Hillborne. Hmm. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Trevor saxton saxton...@gmail.comwrote: Interesting post as I have been rolling this over in my mind over the past month or so, Realistically I'll always have at least 2 bikes, one is a my refurbished 80s Bianchi which used to be my wife's has too much sentimental value to give up, I only use it for charity rides and has limited use beyond that. But I have found myself wondering if I could somehow roll up my Simplone, Hillborne (650b) and vo PolyValent into one awesome bike. Here's a couple of options I have come up with... A custom lightish 650b which could take some weight, running a 1x9 drivetrain with the option to go single speed, single color with limited decals for leaving locked up outsidekind of a high end PolyValent...OR maybe a 650b quickbeam with 132.5 spacing running 42/32 upfront and a the option to run a 6spd freewheel which could be manually shifted across multiple gears. With either frame I could tinker until my hearts content. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: 1 bike? Could you do it?
Jim, How could I have forgotten about that?! Embarrassing!! Thanks for the reminder--the Atlantis just got that much closer to The Perfect Bike :-) Cheers! lyle On 23 January 2013 12:38, Jim Mather mather...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 4:46 AM, Lyle Bogart lylebog...@gmail.com wrote: If the Atlantis had the capacity to become a fixed gear with a simple swap o' the wheel it would be The Perfect Bike. . . perhaps I should have the Atlantis modified with horizontal drop outs. . . All you need is a White Eno eccentric hub. Makes conversion to fixed or SS easy. And much cheaper than modifying the frame. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New wrap
Looks great, Brian! I've been thinking about putting a harlequin wrap on the bars on my atlantis. . . keep us posted on the video :) Cheers! lyle On 5 November 2012 03:28, Brian Hanson stone...@gmail.com wrote: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjCHBVin Here are some pics of a harlequin (diamond) wrap I did on the 42cm Noodles I'm currently finding are perfect for me. I put 3 coats of amber on maroon and yellow Newbaums tape. This week will be testing it weather-wise, as it looks like lots of rain. I tried to do some video taping of this process, so after I learn how to edit and get it online, I'll hopefully be able to post a how-to. Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] How many Rivendell bicycles have you owned?
I have but one, and I consider myself a rich man for it! A 61cm Atlantis. My darlin' wife has a Betty. Cheers! lyle On 30 October 2012 15:55, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: I'll start: 1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0b2Je-GaWxoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Simple Card
Oh, that'll be wonderful--great idea! On 24 October 2012 16:34, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: My class of 2nd graders will be writing a whole bundle tomorrow. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uJQ3wIV1-1wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] A Simple Card
Jim, thanks for passing this along, and Grant, thanks for the post card idea. I went through the process of my wife dying from breast cancer and, yes, even the simplest things would serve to lift her spirits. I'm treating a patient now who has been an avid cyclist and is in the late stages of parkinson's. I suspect he gets at least as much therapy out of having someone to talk bikes with as he does from his actual physical therapy. I've a few post cards sitting at the house; I think I'll draw a bike on one of them this evening. . . On 23 October 2012 14:16, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: If you didn't see GP's column from yesterday, take a break and read it. http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/34108841116/calling-all If you are moved to do so, take a moment or two and act. - Jim cyclofiend.com / cyclofi...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/1EpTxQQ3hD4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Jan and Grant starting a wide tire revolution among racers now?
I agree, Steve. Fast, supple, puncture resistant. . . that'd be delightful. On 19 October 2012 12:11, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 08:59 -0700, Jan Heine wrote: When you look at our tire first tests, the three fastest tires measured 24, 25 and 38 mm wide. The slowest tires were 33 mm wide. The correlation between width and speed/comfort applies only if you keep the casing the same. A good thing that will come out of this are more supple, fast wide tires in the future. If only there were a way to make a tire that was (a) fast and supple but also provided (b) decent resistance to punctures from small pieces of glass and sharp stone and long tread life. I guess while I'm at it I should also add, (c)and cheap. Unfortunately, I think that while (b) and (c) can go together, (a) and (b) tend to be mutually exclusive. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Jan and Grant starting a wide tire revolution among racers now?
H. . . I thought wider began at 32mm. . . On 18 October 2012 11:49, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Even race frames are being changed to accomodate wider tires now?!?!?! http://www.roadbikerider.com/ask-coach-fred -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/A3IF1cmrg0YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Jan and Grant starting a wide tire revolution among racers now?
You think? See, I was thinking of the floor (size-wise) as something like Grand Bois Cypres at 32, then getting properly wide at something like the Schwalbe Marathons at 47. . . not quite fat, but certainly wide. . . maybe, though. . . seems a matter of indeterminacy: certainly 23 and 25 aren't wide. But 28? 29? They seem a bit of a cusp-species to me :) On 18 October 2012 15:21, Marc Schwartz mschw...@nmsu.edu wrote: Inclusion, Lyle, inclusion! Let's start wide with Rolly-Pollys, Cerfs, and Paris-Roubaixs From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Lyle Bogart [lylebog...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:10 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Jan and Grant starting a wide tire revolution among racers now? H. . . I thought wider began at 32mm. . . On 18 October 2012 11:49, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.commailto: john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Even race frames are being changed to accomodate wider tires now?!?!?! http://www.roadbikerider.com/ask-coach-fred -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/A3IF1cmrg0YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto: rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Jan and Grant starting a wide tire revolution among racers now?
Fair enough, methinks! On 18 October 2012 16:53, Marc Schwartz mschw...@nmsu.edu wrote: True, maybe, but I wanted to include Rams (w/fenders), some Riv Roads, RB1s, Raleigh Intls, and other cool old road bikes in our Wide Tire Lovers' Society rather than to be some mean ol' He-Man Skinny Tire Haters' Club** by cutting with too sharp of a knife. 'Tis more the attitude with which thou ridest, methinks! **(apologies to Spanky, Buckwheat, Froggie, and the rest) Love, Peace, and Understanding, Marc From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Lyle Bogart [lylebog...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:46 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Jan and Grant starting a wide tire revolution among racers now? You think? See, I was thinking of the floor (size-wise) as something like Grand Bois Cypres at 32, then getting properly wide at something like the Schwalbe Marathons at 47. . . not quite fat, but certainly wide. . . maybe, though. . . seems a matter of indeterminacy: certainly 23 and 25 aren't wide. But 28? 29? They seem a bit of a cusp-species to me :) On 18 October 2012 15:21, Marc Schwartz mschw...@nmsu.edumailto: mschw...@nmsu.edu wrote: Inclusion, Lyle, inclusion! Let's start wide with Rolly-Pollys, Cerfs, and Paris-Roubaixs From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Lyle Bogart [ lylebog...@gmail.commailto:lylebog...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:10 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Jan and Grant starting a wide tire revolution among racers now? H. . . I thought wider began at 32mm. . . On 18 October 2012 11:49, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.commailto: john11.2...@gmail.commailto:john11.2...@gmail.commailto: john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Even race frames are being changed to accomodate wider tires now?!?!?! http://www.roadbikerider.com/ask-coach-fred -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/A3IF1cmrg0YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto: rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto: rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto: rbw-owners-bunch%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494tel:207.882.6494 206.794.6937tel:206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto: rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto: rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494tel:207.882.6494 206.794.6937tel:206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You
Re: [RBW] Marginally OT
Now *that* is a very classy looking ride! And Beechwood rims to boot! Very nicely done, Sir! Be careful though: riding fixed is known to be addictive :) Cheers! lyle On 16 October 2012 09:32, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: OK, I know this is stretching it, but I’m usually pretty scrupulous about staying on topic – and I’m so excited about finishing this bike that I have to share with the group. I signed up for a weeklong one-on-one frame building course (“bike camp”, to my wife, who gave it to me as a Christmas present) with Mike Flanagan at A.N.T., and made this frame (with considerable help from Mike). I finished the final build this weekend. Here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8087111571/in/photostream ** ** My first fixed gear, very fun but very strange feeling at first. Riv content (there really IS some): alloy Bosco bars, and Nigel Smythe Keven’s bag. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Marginally OT
That's just a pretty awesome deal, I think. . . perhaps one day. . . On 16 October 2012 15:55, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: It was $3,000 for the week, which considering how late Mike worked every night is a pretty darn good deal. Plus delicious lunches, and of course your own custom A.N.T. Frame/fork! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2012, at 2:25 PM, James Chang lohech...@gmail.com wrote: Damn, Thomas, that's really nice. it even cooler the fact that you actually built it. You are now officially a frame builder. How much does a class like this run? Interested!!! James Chang On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: OK, I know this is stretching it, but I’m usually pretty scrupulous about staying on topic – and I’m so excited about finishing this bike that I have to share with the group. I signed up for a weeklong one-on-one frame building course (“bike camp”, to my wife, who gave it to me as a Christmas present) with Mike Flanagan at A.N.T., and made this frame (with considerable help from Mike). I finished the final build this weekend. Here it is: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8087111571/in/photostream ** ** My first fixed gear, very fun but very strange feeling at first. Riv content (there really IS some): alloy Bosco bars, and Nigel Smythe Keven’s bag. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- *** club sandwich, not seal *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
the problem for alot of us is we are in a society that demands we work 50 hours a week and keep up a working family unit AND look great all the time and just something has to give +1 On 10 October 2012 10:04, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: All good points but the issues I at least find in my life are bigger than just wanting to change or doing things differently. Me and my wife get up at 7 and dont get back home from work until 6:30, then we eat dinner with our daughter, do homework and bed time. By then it is 8:30-9pm and everyone is exhausted and just wants to relax. I do often get out on the bike and do an hour before coming home to shower and hit they hay but I have to make myself get out there alot of the time. Once I do though it is always a good decision as I feel better for having done it, and really enjoy myself to be sure. Not to get too meta here but the problem for alot of us is we are in a society that demands we work 50 hours a week and keep up a working family unit AND look great all the time and just something has to give. Newsweek had a great article last week pertaining to how this modern schedule is affecting women but touched on that no-one can lead a happy life at those levels. It is just sad to see a society that villifies people who are out of shape or frazzled so bad from just the daily grind that at the end of the day all they want to do is watch tv and eat some chips or ice cream. It is alot easier to just tell people to live healthier lives and get in shape, it is harder to understand the underlying causes of what makes people have to live unhealthy lives in the first place. On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 9:46 AM, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I don't disagree but without and actual change in what one eats (if trying to lose fat) this doesn't work. I haven't stopped doing any of those things heck we don't even have television...A holistic approach is definitely important but the basic fact is about what and how much of it we eat. Years of bad living often mean the damage is already done and some might only be able to slow the deterioration down making it difficult to return to a healthy body fat percentage and overall health. All the more reason to get on it as soon as possible. It is a well know fact that a very low percentage of the truly obese are not often successful in their efforts to lose fat. It is a real problem for some and not often understood by the average slightly chubby person. The subject and the people are more often laughed about, (I witnessed that yesterday at work) or dismissed as being lazy or otherwise flawed but that's another story we need to get back to the basics and those who are really struggling with weight need a multi-dimensional solution. be active. have sex. sleep. volunteer. pet a dog. learn something new. unplug the computer/TV and go outside. that seems like a better prescription for weight loss than any diet. On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 7:43:43 AM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote: On Monday, October 8, 2012 12:36:23 PM UTC-4, franklyn wrote: There is a whole community of people who were inspired by Bill Clinton's weight loss based on a lifestyle and diet changes . .. Bill Clinton aside, lifestyle is a very important part of the equation. There's a lot of talk about what to eat, how to eat, blah, blah . . . but I don't think all that talk makes much difference if other aspects of lifestyle are out of balance. There's a distinct feeling that comes with wellness - things get easy because being physically and mentally well feels really, really good. the body naturally craves this feeling and eating well and being active is our natural default setting - I live that lifestyle not because i'm on a specific diet and exercise regimen, but simply because it makes me feel good, day in and day out. it give me energy to do the things I like doing. it naturally relieves stress. it promotes rest and sleep. there's no choice or calculus about whether to eat this or that, or whether i should do cardio - the only choice is whether i want to feel good or feel like crap. culturally, we're getting pretty far removed from our natural wellness default. obesity, depression, anxiety ... that stuff goes hand-in-hand. life gets out of control, weight gets out of control, and we eventually start to lose our minds and feel like crap all the time. to feel good again, people over compensate with the things that should make us feel good - over eating is a prime example. Comfort has literally become a food group. we need to get back to the basics and those who are really struggling with weight need a multi-dimensional solution. be active. have sex. sleep. volunteer. pet a dog. learn something new. unplug the computer/TV and go outside. that seems like a better prescription for weight loss than any diet. -- You received this message because you are
Re: [RBW] Sincere, Non-Argumentative Helmet Question
I haven't seen any studies on these, but they meet DOT requirements for motorcycle helmets. I just bought my daughter one and I'll end up with one too. http://www.nutcasehelmets.com/ Cheers! lyle On 10 October 2012 16:53, Big Paulie pauldgr...@yahoo.com wrote: Since one of the criticisms of cycling helmets has been the relative lack of protection, I've been wondering if there's a helmet that would fall between the standard bicycle helmet and the full face motorcycle helmet in terms of protection...and still be servicable The half helmet or skull cap hemet that Harley riders wear surely must offer more protection than a cycling helmet, while offering a degree of air flow over the face and head. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Sincere, Non-Argumentative Helmet Question
Yup, I was just about to correct myself on that :) Thanks for catching that, David! Cheeers! lyle On 10 October 2012 17:31, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: Only their Moto helmet (1080 grams) appears to be DOT certified. http://www.nutcasehelmets.com/safety/certifications - David G in SF On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Lyle Bogart lylebog...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't seen any studies on these, but they meet DOT requirements for motorcycle helmets. I just bought my daughter one and I'll end up with one too. http://www.nutcasehelmets.com/ Cheers! lyle On 10 October 2012 16:53, Big Paulie pauldgr...@yahoo.com wrote: Since one of the criticisms of cycling helmets has been the relative lack of protection, I've been wondering if there's a helmet that would fall between the standard bicycle helmet and the full face motorcycle helmet in terms of protection...and still be servicable The half helmet or skull cap hemet that Harley riders wear surely must offer more protection than a cycling helmet, while offering a degree of air flow over the face and head. Any thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- David Yu Greenblatt, MD, MSPH Endocrine Surgery Fellow, University of California, San Francisco Email: david.greenbl...@ucsfmedctr.org david.greenbl...@ucsfmedctr.org; david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com Cell: 415-622-6977; Office: 415-885-3617 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sincere, Non-Argumentative Helmet Question
My daughter, soon to be eleven, picked this one: http://www.nutcasehelmets.com/collections/street/super_solid/blackish I must say I was hoping she'd pick something a touch brighter, but dad, the black will go with anything! Oh well. . . my son, who is turning 8 soon wants this one: http://www.nutcasehelmets.com/collections/street/gen2/danger-red For myself, I'll likely be getting this: http://store.nutcasestore.com/greenplaid.html because it's just atypical enough and proceeds go to help this foundation: http://harringtonfamilyfoundation.org/ with which I have no affiliation, but figure, what the heck, if I can make purchase of a good product and contribute a bit, why not. . . Cheers! lyle On 10 October 2012 21:24, Big Paulie pauldgr...@yahoo.com wrote: So Lyle, which Nutcase helmet did you get your daughter, and perhaps might get for yourself? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
Michael, In the past I've specifically trained for specific atheletic endeavors such as technical rock and ice climbing, marathon running, and olympic-style weightlifting. In those days, training occurred at a high intensity, often for hours on end, daily. In technical climbing and the sport of weightlifting, technique is supremely important, so a fairly high volume of training was required (in olympic-style weightlifting, there were a few years of 3 workouts/day, 5 days/week with no single session lasting more than an hour). Marathon training was done at fairly high volume, too, but more for psychological hardening than for cardiorespiratory or musculoskeletal development. Training like this, though, is not about being healthy--it's about sports performance. For health and general conditioning these days, I naturally cleave to something similar to Sisson's prescription. Mostly, I play for fitness. I still use principles of olympic-style weightlifting in my strengthening (I think the snatch and the clean jerk are fun lifts and are very applicable across a wide variety of athletic applications), I ride a fixed gear for my cardiovascular development because this naturally entails interval training, I probably rest between workouts more than I should :) and I rarely, if ever, do the same exercises twice in any given week. With respect to things like body fat percentages and the like, I recall a study (I don't have the article in front of me at the moment) which looked at 5 body fat of elite level male and female sprinters, middle-distance runners, and marathoners. Marathon runners (male) had % body fat around 11-13%, sprinters around 4% and middle distance runners were in the 6-10% range. The numbers for females were similarly distributed. If anyone would like the citation for the study, let me know and I'll dig that out when I get home. . . I hope this helps. . . Cheers! lyle -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 On 9 October 2012 06:29, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Charlie. I haven't read Grant's book, perhaps because after so many years with the Reader I felt I didn't need to. Maybe I was wrong about that. I hadn't intended to reignite a debate about diet. I understand that some people seem to do pretty well on a fairly high grain/ hi carb diet. In fact all the members of my family do. I do not, which creates a problem a conflict. I believe I am in the real majority, even if it doesn't feel like it at family gatherings! Actually I was more intrigued by Sisson's specific exercise recommendations and how they translate for people on this list. He suggests: 1. Doing lots of low intensity activity 2. Doing hi cardio for only 10-30 minutes a week. He refers to this as sprinting. 3. Lift heavy things, mostly your own body, for only 10-20 minutes twice a week. 4. Get lots of sunshine and sleep. These make a lot of sense to me, although when I was younger ( and apparently had a higher testosterone level) I felt the desire to go harder or longer more often. I haven't found anything in his writing on stretching, which I think is essential. As I age I feel more and more need for a regular yoga routine to keep my body functioning. These suggestions do seem to dovetail with GPs but I suspect many of us don't practice them consistently. Personally, except when I'm on the tandem, I have a hard time cycling at a moderate pace, or perhaps I should say moderate level of exertion and I find most club rides now require higher levels of output for 3-4 hours than these guidelines would support. I for one have never been able to sustain any weight training program - way too boring - but a 20 minute routine sounds more sustainable than an hour on weight machines at the gym. I also have a broader philosophical question about exercise programs, but will put that off to a separate post some time. Michael On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:06:51 PM UTC-4, charlie wrote: Forget the running unless you are doing short intense interval sprints..better to lift weights if you want to lose fat. Perhaps a read of Grants latest book will school you all on the subject. It really is a good book and he touches in a basic way the principles for losing fat and proper exercise to help that along and finally its not just about losing fat but rather controlling ones blood sugar levels that is the important part of eating low carb i.e. animal protein, eggs, saturated fats i.e. coconut oil, fish oil, animal fat (olive oil eaten cold) large amounts of leafy greens, some nuts berries and limited fruit. And Jim.thanks, you related it well. if you aren't fat it doesn't apply to you...so only fat people or those battling fat loss, diabetes, or any other inflammatory condition may comment from now on.If you are a leaned out super stud with no health problems due to your diet you may rest on
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
The DPT after my name is officially for doctor of physical therapy, but in the real world it signified Damned Poor Typist. this: . . . looked at 5 body fat of elite. . . should be . . . looked at % body fat of elite. . . Sheesh. . . lyle On 9 October 2012 07:11, Lyle Bogart lylebog...@gmail.com wrote: Michael, In the past I've specifically trained for specific atheletic endeavors such as technical rock and ice climbing, marathon running, and olympic-style weightlifting. In those days, training occurred at a high intensity, often for hours on end, daily. In technical climbing and the sport of weightlifting, technique is supremely important, so a fairly high volume of training was required (in olympic-style weightlifting, there were a few years of 3 workouts/day, 5 days/week with no single session lasting more than an hour). Marathon training was done at fairly high volume, too, but more for psychological hardening than for cardiorespiratory or musculoskeletal development. Training like this, though, is not about being healthy--it's about sports performance. For health and general conditioning these days, I naturally cleave to something similar to Sisson's prescription. Mostly, I play for fitness. I still use principles of olympic-style weightlifting in my strengthening (I think the snatch and the clean jerk are fun lifts and are very applicable across a wide variety of athletic applications), I ride a fixed gear for my cardiovascular development because this naturally entails interval training, I probably rest between workouts more than I should :) and I rarely, if ever, do the same exercises twice in any given week. With respect to things like body fat percentages and the like, I recall a study (I don't have the article in front of me at the moment) which looked at 5 body fat of elite level male and female sprinters, middle-distance runners, and marathoners. Marathon runners (male) had % body fat around 11-13%, sprinters around 4% and middle distance runners were in the 6-10% range. The numbers for females were similarly distributed. If anyone would like the citation for the study, let me know and I'll dig that out when I get home. . . I hope this helps. . . Cheers! lyle -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 On 9 October 2012 06:29, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Charlie. I haven't read Grant's book, perhaps because after so many years with the Reader I felt I didn't need to. Maybe I was wrong about that. I hadn't intended to reignite a debate about diet. I understand that some people seem to do pretty well on a fairly high grain/ hi carb diet. In fact all the members of my family do. I do not, which creates a problem a conflict. I believe I am in the real majority, even if it doesn't feel like it at family gatherings! Actually I was more intrigued by Sisson's specific exercise recommendations and how they translate for people on this list. He suggests: 1. Doing lots of low intensity activity 2. Doing hi cardio for only 10-30 minutes a week. He refers to this as sprinting. 3. Lift heavy things, mostly your own body, for only 10-20 minutes twice a week. 4. Get lots of sunshine and sleep. These make a lot of sense to me, although when I was younger ( and apparently had a higher testosterone level) I felt the desire to go harder or longer more often. I haven't found anything in his writing on stretching, which I think is essential. As I age I feel more and more need for a regular yoga routine to keep my body functioning. These suggestions do seem to dovetail with GPs but I suspect many of us don't practice them consistently. Personally, except when I'm on the tandem, I have a hard time cycling at a moderate pace, or perhaps I should say moderate level of exertion and I find most club rides now require higher levels of output for 3-4 hours than these guidelines would support. I for one have never been able to sustain any weight training program - way too boring - but a 20 minute routine sounds more sustainable than an hour on weight machines at the gym. I also have a broader philosophical question about exercise programs, but will put that off to a separate post some time. Michael On Monday, October 8, 2012 9:06:51 PM UTC-4, charlie wrote: Forget the running unless you are doing short intense interval sprints..better to lift weights if you want to lose fat. Perhaps a read of Grants latest book will school you all on the subject. It really is a good book and he touches in a basic way the principles for losing fat and proper exercise to help that along and finally its not just about losing fat but rather controlling ones blood sugar levels that is the important part of eating low carb i.e. animal protein, eggs, saturated fats i.e. coconut oil, fish oil, animal fat (olive oil eaten cold) large amounts of leafy greens, some
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
One may look good on the outside and still have a heart attack at 57 due to a lifetime of poor diet choices and more likely the natural skinny guy is the one that has the heart attack and the fat guy lives to be 85. What am I trying to say? Its not just what you see on the outside and it may be a false confidence if someone is young and in shape to believe that they are living healthy and will always be in shape +1 Charlie! Many of the patients I treat fall into this skinny-fat category and they always seem amazed to learn there's more to being healthy than having low bodyweight. Cheers! lyle -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 On 7 October 2012 04:14, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote: One may look good on the outside and still have a heart attack at 57 due to a lifetime of poor diet choices. Its not just about being lean although losing body fat is part of the reason I am eating a low carb Primal/Paleo way.eating primarily meat,eggs, leafy greens and other actual vegetables (no, corn is not a vegetable) berries, nuts and some fruit has allowed me to lose 30 pounds with a very low level of exercise compared to most people. I know my blood sugar is more stable when I eat this way and I feel better doing so. When I was younger.(20's to 30's) I had no trouble keeping my weight down and I was a full 70 pounds lighter at 30 years of age than I am at 54. The fat came from eating excessive carbohydrates like pasta, cookies, beer, pizza, baked goods, ice cream etc. etc. plus stress and lack of sleep and a reduction in exercise until about age 42 when I tried riding my fat off without a diet change and never lost a pound until I tried the Atkins approach but soon stopped that on poor advice from supposed professionals.ten years later, I tried it again eating exactly the same as I did earlier and lost fat effortlessly.I might add that we eat plenty of veggies too (not just meat) as some might think. I do believe some are genetically predisposed to being lean no matter what they eat but that doesn't mean their diet choices are healthy or that they will always be lean. Often as those natural lean folks age they develop a pot belly and their arteries clog just like the big fat guys does.heck statistically its more likely the natural skinny guy is the one that has the heart attack and the fat guy lives to be 85. What am I trying to say? Its not just what you see on the outside and it may be a false confidence if someone is young and in shape to believe that they are living healthy and will always be in shape. Here a photo of me at about 29 to prove my point. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2407446671790set=a.2545020671054.2143016.1419870581type=3theater On Saturday, October 6, 2012 3:57:04 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: It must be like pedaling in circles -- people are very different. On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Marc Schwartz msch...@nmsu.edu wrote: Beer, bread, pasta, and sweeties make Marc look like Jabba the Hut. That's just me, not bein' pedantic here. Marc __**__ From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com [rbw-owne...@**googlegroups.com] on behalf of PATRICK MOORE [bert...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 3:08 PM To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com Subject: Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again! I can't cite evidence except long-term and widespread custom, but while it may well be true that effective insulin regulation is the -- or *a* -- key to good metabolism, I can't help but think that 10,000 years of agriculture -- ie, grains -- can't help but be natural to the human body (dig the double whatchamacallit negative). 10K years is pretty primal. And more, the Hopi, Chinese, Japanese and Indians didn't start getting fat and diabetic until they began to wean themselves from the rice, maize or wheat that formerly made up most of their diet. OTOH, I've seen no evidence that the traditional Inuit or the Masai suffered from obesity, diabetes, heart trouble or lack of energy because they ate mostly proteins and fats. Sure, traditional people also exercised more than modern couch potatoes, but then the Primal argument says that exercise won't keep it off if you eat carbs. The Italians and French are not noted for statistical excesses of obesity and diabetes and heart disease. Me, I eat my grandmother's primal diet that includes six packs, good bread, pasta as well as vegetables, dairy, wine, and red meat. And I'm 200% fit! As with cycling rules, I prefer to remain a skeptic for one-size-fits-all, while being wholly willing to accept that Primal may work for some people. Well, my one-size-fits-all rule is that modern processing is probably bad. On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.com mailto:mhe**ch...@gmail.com wrote: This may be stretching the boundaries of the list mission, but we have
Re: [RBW] Your order has shipped...(62cm Hunq)
That is one fine looking bike! Love the shade of green! Enjoy! Cheers! lyle -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 On 6 October 2012 00:47, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: Hunqementation Chapter 1. The Arrival... http://www.flickr.com//photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157631702162963/show/ Sadly it was too late the day to do anything useful, but my Hunq has arrived. I even managed not to open the box...saving that for tomorrow. I did, however, made some images of the UPS truck's arrival. A happy UPS guy too...must have know what he had in the box. :-) The pictures prove something got delivered. ;-) Bet you can guess what I'm up to tomorrow. Aloha all! On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 2:59 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: The QB documentation was great, so the Hunqementation will be just as good! On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Jim Mather mather...@gmail.com wrote: Great! A Hunq would complement my QB nicely too some day. Big Apples in 50 are a very nice tire for something like a Hunq. happy trails jim m wc ca On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Robert F. Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com wrote: Your order has shipped. Those are four of my favorite words. Apparently I agreed to 2-Day Air shipping of a brand new 62cm Hunqapillar. The air shipping is a bit overboard when you live in Hawaii because, quite frankly, it all comes by air anyway. But as I ordered the bike back in May I think I'll be happier with a bike this weekend than I would be spending the weekend wondering when it'll arrive. Right now it's scheduled for this Friday...yes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it. -*Mark Twain* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] That Diet and Exercise thing again!
I learned about Mark Sisson through Grant's writings. After looking into it, it appeared to be a refinement of what I do nutritionally anyway (I don't forego carbs to the extent that Sisson does--can't give up baking my own bread!). I find that the closer I adhere to Sisson's points, the more even my energy feels throughout the day, the week, or just the ride. I also do intermittent fasting, but not as a formal part of a plan--there're just those days when I feel like not eating and so I indulge that. Overall, through the years of being very active (former climbing and backcountry skiing guide, long-distance running cycling, etc.) I find that fats are absolutely essential to my energy level and my ability to be as active as I am. . . My wife recently began adhering closely to Sisson's approach--she has many food allergies and gluten intolerance--and noted very good results. Cheers! lyle -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 On 6 October 2012 16:06, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: This may be stretching the boundaries of the list mission, but we have entertained a long discussion around Why We Get Fat, and if memory serves me right, GP published an article in the Reader, which challenged the wisdom of extreme forms of exercise, like the Iron Man competition. So... I recently stumbled across a web site, http://www.marksdailyapple.com/#axzz28QX0hvFJ while looking for some health info. The author has a whole thing going under the rubric of the Primal Blueprint. While his starting point seemed debatable the conclusions he comes to both about diet and exercise sound practical and congruent with the diet and exercise recommendations from Rivendell. And they build on them. They seem pretty practical, especially around exercise, to someone (moi) who is 68 years old, allergic to training, but still hoping to maintain an active life for as long as possible. Have others on this list looked into this program more deeply, or tried it out. What did you find, and what do you think? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8w3oJYZCaucJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Been Thinkin'....
Indeed, very nicely done! It is a curious thing that this topic can be so volatile. . . and it is a wonderful thing that the discussion did remain as civil as it did. Thanks for all you do keeping the list going, Jim! Cheers! lyle On 3 October 2012 01:26, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: that if we feel the urge to have a helmet discussion, it needs to be a new one. A new discussion. A new way of looking at the subject. And I'm not in any way sure that can actually occur. I've been bumping around the interwebs since dial-up days, and have seen only a few topics turn truly, utterly and mind-numbingly ugly on a uniformly consistent basis. Helmets is one of those. I've never seen it end well. I've watched good folks who I knew and respected, other folks who seemed to fly in for the fight, and a whole lot of howling and sniping and cut-quoting. My personal view is that helmets is a topic where everyone starts out with the best intentions, but it devolves and becomes a harsher and more strident environment. Which is one of the things I'd hoped to avoid in this list. And just to say it clearly and loudly, we by and large have done so - avoided it, I mean. Thanks everyone who kept their head cool and presented facts, tried to keep a lid on a relentlessly explosive topic, or wisely took it off-list. I'm aware of how the topic got brought up, and how it specifically relates to Grant's writings and statements, and by extension how it could be related to this list. Thanks for no name callin', and no oh yeah, so's yer old man! positions being taken. I don't think any other group could have pulled it off so well. I'm just asking that we let it sit now (ok, I've actually locked the topic, so, it's a pretty strong ask) and take a couple steps back and not pick it up again. Because, it's an every-steepening slope with increasingly slicker sides. As for that new way I mentioned above. I have no idea what it is - whether we have the ability to have the discussion without a lot of other things operating. Some of those things are well and fine, and others may be not even recognized impulses and reactiions. The only thing I can think to use as an analogy is when you are out in a boat and suddenly the fog creeps in tight. You can see the water but as soon as you lift your vision up, landmarks are gone, perspective is skewed and it becomes a sudden, strange world. The best thing to do is first recognize that you are in the situation. Then figure out the best way to calmly and safely withdraw. There are probably some places to discuss the topic, to make the case or prove the point. But, my suggestion is that we not do so in this group. Thanks and thanks to all for their contributions. - Jim / List Admin Jim Edgar / Cyclofiend.com / cyclofi...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uLy1LYkcvDQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Long Road Home nearing DC
Pam, thanks for sharing this. . . it is important! Cheers! lyle On 3 October 2012 22:00, pam pamelamurra...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to share this group with y'all. I hope it's ok to share this on this forum. From the website : http://longroadhomeproject.com/ This summer, five U.S. veterans will bicycle across our great nation to heal their wounds from war. This group of former service people includes men and women of diverse ages, backgrounds, and interests. *Empowered by their differences, these five veterans are united.* *United* in their effort to heal their wounds from war via a long distance ride. *United* to bring awareness to the fact that hundreds of thousands of service people often face difficulty returning home and, *United* to raise money to help other veterans live more fulfilling and meaningful lives. We are raising $75,000 to accomplish this year’s ride. Funds raised above this will go towards supporting future rides and Operation First Response http://www.operationfirstresponse.com/, a national non-profit dedicated to serve all branches of our nation’s Wounded Heroes and their families with personal and financial needs. The 4,200 mile journey begins July 15th near Tacoma and ends 90 days later in Washington D.C. By the end of these 90 days: *1,500* vets will have committed suicide. *270,000 *cases of PTSD will have been reported since the inception of the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. *50,000* veterans will have returned home physically wounded since 2001, and *300,000* vets will spend a night on the street. From the site, you can check the schedule and see where they are. They were gracious enough to let me ride along for a few miles. I rode with the hand cyclists and they were incredible. I was so inspired and in awe that I wanted to share this with you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZMugkFya96wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Winter Shoe Recommendations?
Hey Shaun, Try a pair of Bean boots: http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/43351?feat=506796-GN3page=men-s-l-l-bean-boots-10-shearling-linedattrValue_0=Brown/BrownproductId=732953 or http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/33172?feat=506796-GN3page=men-s-maine-hunting-shoes-10-gore-tex-thinsulateattrValue_0=Brown/BrownproductId=452938 They're much trimmer than a Sorel or similar boot and they get many folks through the winter in Maine. Cheers! lyle -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 On 30 September 2012 19:59, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm looking for some recommendations for winter riding shoes or boots. For just plain old platform style pedals, not clipless SPD pedals. And by winter I mean cold weather. Not West Coast cold (which we refer to as chilly in these parts) but Minnesota cold. Something that will keep my feet dry and warm down to zero degrees Fahrenheit and below. Right now I'm using Tioga Surefoot and Spyder pedals on my two most ridden bikes (if it makes a difference). And in warmer weather I typically ride in Adidas Samba Millenniums or Keen sandals. Any recommendations are appreciated. Thanks! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] CO Allegheny - Trip Starting Sept 29th heading DC to Pittsburgh
Ah, that sounds nice! Have a great ride--take pics :) cheers! lyle On 26 September 2012 12:07, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Amit, and I along with several others are making a trip along the CO and then the Allegheny Starting in DC on the afternoon of the 29th and heading back to our car in Boston Pa. Anyway if you live close to the trail we would love to meet you face to face, have lunch or something. We can be reached... 314-799-4743 or email tkslee...@gmail.com Hope all have a good week Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wN9KxXcWjakJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] First commute -- Mystery Bike!
Gorgeous bike! Perhaps I missed it in the previous thread about the build of this, but just how long are those chainstays? There's still a whole lotta bike behind the seat! Cheers! lyle On 25 September 2012 15:06, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: ** Finally got the Mystery Bike built up (still no fenders, though -- working on the right fender/tire/brake combo), and took it for its maiden voyage/first commute. What a great bike! A couple of pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8023681452/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8023688058/in/photostream/ -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] First commute -- Mystery Bike!
54+? Holy Moly, that's about 9cm longer than on my Atlantis! I bet that's a cushy ride. . . once again, gorgeous bike! Enjoy! lyle On 25 September 2012 16:06, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: ** Thanks! Just measured the chainstays -- they're even longer than I would have guessed, effectively 54+ cm, with rear wheel all the way back in the horizontal drops. Hence, I'm guessing, the extremely cushy ride. But surprisingly (or maybe not, given the tentacular diagastays), it handles weight way back on the rack (which I could barely mount -- the struts are maxed out) beautifully. No swaying at all (I haven't loaded it really heavily yet, so I guess the jury's out, but it feels really sturdy back there). And it is definitely not sluggish in turns -- goes where you point it, when you point it. So, bottom line seems to be that you get the benefits that conventional wisdom says you'd get from the long chainstays, without (at least based on my experience) the downsides. -- *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Lyle Bogart *Sent:* Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:42 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [RBW] First commute -- Mystery Bike! Gorgeous bike! Perhaps I missed it in the previous thread about the build of this, but just how long are those chainstays? There's still a whole lotta bike behind the seat! Cheers! lyle On 25 September 2012 15:06, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: ** Finally got the Mystery Bike built up (still no fenders, though -- working on the right fender/tire/brake combo), and took it for its maiden voyage/first commute. What a great bike! A couple of pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8023681452/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8023688058/in/photostream/ -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein
Re: [RBW] Headwinds bummer....need tips...
keep your head down, your spirits up, and don't stop pedaling. Cheers! lyle On 22 September 2012 23:33, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Rode to church and back today. I started thinkingIs one of my brakes dragging? What is going on here? Then it dawned on me that the wind was blasting in my face on just about every road I was on. This week there have been alot of headwinds here in Maryland. Sure does make it frustrating. Going all out and just draggin' along. Anyone have any tips for tackling headwinds? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7aVVUh79PnAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Which bike next....?
Or, just to put out another possibility, how about a Nordavinden or Drakkar2 from Rawland? I have an earlier Drakkar (fixed gear) and am always delighted to ride it. http://rawlandcycles.blogspot.com/ https://plus.google.com/photos/108961230290044866302/albums/5391146948986199089?authkey=CJWL1IOdg72Mew The 2nd link is my Drakkar (without fenders. . . ) Cheers! lyle On 23 September 2012 08:38, nawr...@comcast.net wrote: Or the Bruce Gordon BLT http://www.bgcycles.com/blt.html Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO -- *From: *Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com *To: *rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent: *Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:57:48 PM *Subject: *Re: [RBW] Re: Which bike next? How's about a San Marcos? Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LfFJni86jIYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Which bike next....?
If you check out the Rawland sit, see July 3, 2012 blog entry for some nice shots of the frame details. Cheers! lyle On 23 September 2012 09:09, Lyle Bogart lylebog...@gmail.com wrote: Or, just to put out another possibility, how about a Nordavinden or Drakkar2 from Rawland? I have an earlier Drakkar (fixed gear) and am always delighted to ride it. http://rawlandcycles.blogspot.com/ https://plus.google.com/photos/108961230290044866302/albums/5391146948986199089?authkey=CJWL1IOdg72Mew The 2nd link is my Drakkar (without fenders. . . ) Cheers! lyle On 23 September 2012 08:38, nawr...@comcast.net wrote: Or the Bruce Gordon BLT http://www.bgcycles.com/blt.html Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO -- *From: *Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com *To: *rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent: *Saturday, September 22, 2012 5:57:48 PM *Subject: *Re: [RBW] Re: Which bike next? How's about a San Marcos? Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LfFJni86jIYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rain Gear?
That's a good question, Michael! I don't have numeric temperature feedback
to give but: when I was living in Tacoma, Washington I would wear the
jacket while riding during heavy downpours in the summer and, of course,
all winter long. Out here in mid-coast Maine, I can't really wear any
jacket in the middle of summer and still ride vigorously; it's just too
humid for that. That said, I feel that the JG jackets vent very well.
I hope this helps,
lyle
On 18 September 2012 07:49, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks really interesting. What is the upper range of temperature you can
wear this without quickly overheating?
On Monday, September 17, 2012 2:16:40 PM UTC-4, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.comwrote:
I really like the rain jacket from these folks:
http://www.bicycleclothing.**com/Waterproof-Breathable-**
Rain-Jackets.htmlhttp://www.bicycleclothing.com/Waterproof-Breathable-Rain-Jackets.html
I've an old pair of rain pants (REI maybe?) but am replacing those this
autumn with their rain pants:
http://www.bicycleclothing.**com/Waterproof-Breathable-**Rain-Pants.htmlhttp://www.bicycleclothing.com/Waterproof-Breathable-Rain-Pants.html
Cheers!
lyle
On 17 September 2012 14:08, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote:
I do like my Carradice Poncho even though several miles in hard rain
will give me damp shoulders. The cape is like a bike tent keeping
everything under it, bags and all, relatively dry. And you can wear
anything at all under it. I particularly like it in sleet and slushy snow.
liesl
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rain Gear?
I really like the rain jacket from these folks: http://www.bicycleclothing.com/Waterproof-Breathable-Rain-Jackets.html I've an old pair of rain pants (REI maybe?) but am replacing those this autumn with their rain pants: http://www.bicycleclothing.com/Waterproof-Breathable-Rain-Pants.html Cheers! lyle On 17 September 2012 14:08, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: I do like my Carradice Poncho even though several miles in hard rain will give me damp shoulders. The cape is like a bike tent keeping everything under it, bags and all, relatively dry. And you can wear anything at all under it. I particularly like it in sleet and slushy snow. liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NVIVEXI47XUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bent Fork! Ack !!!
Amit, At worst, it looks as if *maybe* the fork was not squared up when it the steerer tube was fixed to the crown, so I'd imagine that the structural integrity should be fine. If it handles well, I wouldn't worry about it. With the change in rake/trail, it'd be a better front-load carrier than it otherwise would be ;-) For what it's worth, and this is a very different situation, I had a trek 520 back in the early 80s. I bent the forks in an accident in which I broadsided a car that had pulled out in front of me. I fixed it by repeatedly swinging the whole bike and striking the rearward side of the front tire against a curb until the front wheel was 'bout where I wanted it to be. It handled just fine and I put many, many more miles on it. . . the beauty of steel! Cheers! lyle -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 On 13 September 2012 21:19, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote: So ... now what?! On Thursday, 13 September 2012 21:15:24 UTC-4, William wrote: Sorry man. I love you, so I tell you the truth. It looks bent. :( At least one person told me that he agreed with me. I'm sure it's fine to use. On Thursday, September 13, 2012 6:07:11 PM UTC-7, Amit Singh wrote: Bubba !!! Why'd you drop this idea in my mind?! Here's another photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/** amisingh/7983927516/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/7983927516/ Can someone else tell me the fork is perfect and not to worry about it? GP, you'd be the supreme authority here, of course. So ... what are the implications if a fork is not perfect? This bicycle tracks perfect no hands, anything else to worry about? Amit On Thursday, 13 September 2012 18:51:39 UTC-4, William wrote: I hope that's just a photo illusion but the forks look bent. The upper fork legs are not parallel with the headtube, in the photo. Maybe in real life they are. Careful! On Thursday, September 13, 2012 7:07:58 AM UTC-7, Amit Singh wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**amisingh/7980699538/http://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/7980699538/ Another Bombadil w/ 60mm tires and fenders. Converted from mountain bike to touring bike duty for my upcoming CO Canal / Allegheny Passage tour. Excited! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wd6jKJgWT2kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Beautiful 68cm Rivendell Bombadil
Amit, that is a beautiful bike! Enjoy the upcoming tour. Cheers! lyle On 13 September 2012 10:24, Tom Harrop twhar...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, that is a nice bike. I wanted that colour scheme too, but it would've taken too long. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/b7e33lNPFuAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] A Minor Modification
Nice work, David! Personally, I'm not a mirror fan but I can certainly appreciate them. How solidly do the zip ties hold the mirror? Is there much vibration out at the mirror end? Cheers! lyle P.S.: Nice Atlantis :) -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 On 9 September 2012 16:55, David T. davidtren...@hotmail.com wrote: I have really been enjoying the Albatross bars on my Atlantis, the whole bike seems to have fallen together. I like having a mirror, it allows me to relax because I don’t have to wonder what might be gaining on me. But I didn’t want to squander any of that prime real estate on the bars. So I decided to mount the mirror on the brake lever body. The only problem was I didn’t get a good view except of my hand and my left hip, which wasn’t very interesting to look at after a while. So I chopped the mirror, leaving the stalk and the ball and socket, and gave it a longer stalk, made of fine Canadian aluminum. By cutting the fine Canadian aluminum just right you can choose the angle it sticks out at. I suggest a rakish angle. Now it juts proudly into the lane and I have a clear view of all that is behind me. http://www.flickr.com/photos/51518228@N06/7965501392/in/set-72157631487256056 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7bHs46pcuYUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] A Minor Modification
Thanks for the details. Again, very nice work!
cheers!
lyle
On 9 September 2012 20:16, David T. davidtren...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, September 9, 2012 5:11:09 PM UTC-4, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.comwrote:
Nice work, David! Personally, I'm not a mirror fan but I can certainly
appreciate them. How solidly do the zip ties hold the mirror? Is there much
vibration out at the mirror end?
Cheers!
lyle
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The mirror is on absolutely solid. Just as well as with the original
clamp. I didn't think it was going to work so well, I thought I might have
to put some glue on there to help it, but it wasn't necessary. I have been
riding it for several weeks on roads and trails and it doesn't budge. If
you look at how I drilled the holes, the zip ties hold it in tension
against the flat part of the brake. The stalk of the mirror is glued into
the aluminum tubing with epoxy glue. The ball and socket still works to
adjust the mirror.
There is no vibration to speak of, no more than with the original mirror,
which I never notice.
David
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivs by city
I've seen exactly two Rivs here in midcoast Maine. . . the Good and the Bad of it is that one is my Atlantis and the second is my wife's Betty! On 7 September 2012 12:03, mike mike.rosen...@gmail.com wrote: I have seen another Riv in Boulder only once and Boulder has a pretty active bicycle culture. On a path I passed a woman riding an Atlantis, then immediately slowed down to look at her bike. A guy at the shop where I take my car has an Yves Gomez but I've never seen the bike, my SimpleOne caught his eye when I dropped off the car one day. I know Rivs around, or at least think they are. I see some references to Boulder in this group. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_vpngekDsBUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: 60cm Quickbeam.
That's a fine looking frame. . . lucky for me it's just a tad too small On 6 September 2012 20:02, tragicallyaverage daban...@gmail.com wrote: FS: 60cm Quickbeam. First generation green version with cantilever brakes. I'm 6'3, around a 93cm pbh and this is too small for me. It's been ridden, has small nicks, nothing concerning but should be mentioned. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/m7-lHJg3DTMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New budget Riv in Summer 2013?
Ha! I'd actually buy that headbadge (but not the TIGged Riv. . . ), presuming the usual gorgeous cloisonné work! On 3 September 2012 18:24, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: ** On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 15:18 -0700, lungimsam wrote: *Tig welds!?!?!?* (Rivendell Reader/Brooks Newsletter hits study floor. Pipe tumbles from mouth. Rises from studded leather chair, forefinger extended to ceiling). (Incredulous) *Perish the thought! Tut, tut...(*clears throat, trying to settle self with dignity). Don't give RBW any bright ideas. Let them know we'll settle for nothing less from them than lugs, lugs, lugs (at least I won't). I am sure they can do a budget with lugs. Weren't there quality, affordable lugged steel bikes ~1960-1980? *: )* Here's the headbadge for that TIGged Rivendell: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. Flying Pig.jpg
Re: [RBW] Re: 50 years since the training wheels came off
Happy Birthday, Jim! I agree with both the get another bike and do a birthday ride suggestion. I typically do a birthday ride--usually on my Rawland fixed gear--selecting a route that puts me in the vicinity of good food drink :) Cheers! lyle On 30 August 2012 21:27, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: PS - Happy Birthday, and congrats on so many years of cycling fun. What a blessing! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/gSt5ker_T9AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Lance Armstrong Stripped of Tour de France Titles
Seems inevitable, really, either because Lance *is* guilty of doping or because, by consistently beating others shown to have been doping, he so tested the objectivity of the testing agencies that they could never be happy until they convicted him. I doubt we've heard the last of this, though. . . lyle -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 On 24 August 2012 01:47, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: Just picked this up from internet traffic: http://news.yahoo.com/lance-armstrong-stripped-tour-france-titles-internet-shock-233032763.html Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Mystery Bike Update and Question
Looking good! I must say thay I prefer the former combo to the latter, but either way's a winner. Looking forward to the ride report. Cheers! lyle On 22 August 2012 10:44, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: ** Good news on the Mystery Bike front -- straightened the bent derailleur hanger and realigned the rear dropouts last night, and I believe I got them both right. And I got to buy a couple of tools! So, on with the build. One question for the group: Which tire fender combo -- brown Delta Cruisers with cream Longboards, or the sturdy Marathons it came with, and fluted VO aluminum fenders? The former looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836932364/in/set-72157630957672582/ The latter like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836930592/in/set-72157630957672582/ And you can sort of see them together here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/7836887966/in/set-72157630957672582/ First ride tonight! -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Atlantis before and after
Ah, a little TLC goes a long way--she's a beauty! Enjoy logging miles and adventures! Cheers! lyle On 20 August 2012 10:16, The Cripler citrowbri...@gmail.com wrote: Some pics of my Atlantis as purchased and now as spruced up and completed (well, completed for now). Nothing left to do but get out and ride some fire roads https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tughPCplHb4/UDJGfvxTCvI/ADo/ZpFbGI-DKzw/s1600/IMG_1039.jpghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-03G_h9DJSbo/UDJGZX98c8I/ADg/p4dzvSqGaqA/s1600/IMG_1037.jpghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-sSWi8aL9ktk/UDJGIVDgEZI/ADQ/Cd_FqwcwG6o/s1600/IMG_0894.jpghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--XqHPaAb0GA/UDJGQHZ5WjI/ADY/MZDLVorP3qg/s1600/IMG_0984.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9dz8ae1xU9sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Altantis almost complete!
Lookin' Good! Cheers! lyle On 16 August 2012 10:32, The Cripler citrowbri...@gmail.com wrote: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1FtYVRUhSyw/UC0Ejoc_NXI/AC8/7XU0A__-lQU/s1600/IMG_1024%5B2%5D.JPG On Thursday, August 16, 2012 7:29:52 AM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote: Several weeks back, with the hearty encouragement of this forums members, I purchased my first Rivendell - a used 58cm Atlantis. It was a deal that was too good to pass up, and I have been nothing but incredibly happy that I made the leap. Since the purchase, I have been tweaking the bike fit and swapping out some parts. I was able to recoup some much needed with the sale of my Surly LHT and host of parts from my bin. This allowed me to make some nice upgrades to the Atlantis. Since the purchase I have swapped out stems to a 100 Nitto Technimic, added a Paul Neo-retro/Touring brake combo, splurged on the Tektro TRP brake levers, rerouted my brake and derailleur cables, and finally last night added yellow Newbaums cloth tape and twine to the Noodles. All that is left to do is get some amber shellac on the bars, and I am ready to ride! Through the process I have learned alot...mostly about the joys of tweaking with canti brakes and the importance of taping your brake cables where you want them prior to wrapping and twining (still might have to fix this one). Here are some pics: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Bp1cCFGAnwU/UC0DamiyQDI/ACs/sOQqlu3FpAM/s1600/IMG_1022%5B1%5D.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/85-Sm9kh-xwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Which headbadge/DT/ST art set do you like best on Rivbikes?
saluki atlantis (probably biased) redwood quickbeam I haven't seen the hunqa head badge in person but it looks pretty nice online :) Cheers! lyle On 13 August 2012 17:11, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on saluki. On Aug 13, 2012 5:03 PM, tdusky tdu...@comcast.net wrote: Rivendell custom On Monday, August 13, 2012 3:44:03 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: Lotsa pretty stuff. Anyway, as a complete set (Hbadge/DT and ST), which model do you like best? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3EtG1T2HtcsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Do you friction or indexed?
Like Jim, I am also at two bikes. One is friction shifting and the other is a fixed gear. My transition back into friction years ago involved the same scenario of indexing gone awry. I now much prefer friction though even that is not as quiet and smooth as fixed :) Cheers! lyle -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Do you ride your Rivendell in the winter, or use a beater bike?
The damage from salt and such isn't an issue until the temperature starts to rise a bit above zero F. Where do you ride at? When in doubt, a simple rinse of the bike with not-very-high-presure water will keep her from rusting on you. You might also give the bike a protective pre-season coat of car wax which you can renew as needed. Cheers! lyle On 8 August 2012 11:12, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: I really want to ride mine this winter, but don't want it to get damaged by road salts. Any ideas? How do you keep it safe from salt? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Zn94uiZzDzYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Do you ride your Rivendell in the winter, or use a beater bike?
Correction: temperature starts to rise a bit above zero F. . . should read much above freezing (32 degrees F) . . and, yes, I ride my atlantis in the winter. . . Chers! lyle On 8 August 2012 19:07, Lyle Bogart lylebog...@gmail.com wrote: The damage from salt and such isn't an issue until the temperature starts to rise a bit above zero F. Where do you ride at? When in doubt, a simple rinse of the bike with not-very-high-presure water will keep her from rusting on you. You might also give the bike a protective pre-season coat of car wax which you can renew as needed. Cheers! lyle On 8 August 2012 11:12, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: I really want to ride mine this winter, but don't want it to get damaged by road salts. Any ideas? How do you keep it safe from salt? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Zn94uiZzDzYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help me decide. Which bike to put these White Industries cranks on.
Amit wrote: Bubba, Put the White Industry cranks on the Black Mountain and the Ritchey cranks on the Homer! I agree! Cheers! lyle On 19 July 2012 19:40, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote: Bubba, Put the White Industry cranks on the Black Mountain and the Ritchey cranks on the Homer! On Jul 19, 7:02 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: For a few reasons, I had the opportunity to treat myself to a set of White VBC cranks and BB. Now I need to decide which bike to put them on. It's a 44/30. Polished silver arms and black rings. Candidate #1: My Black Mountain road bike. It's currently got a 46/29 and I want to gear this bike down to a 44, one way or another. This bike has a lot of black on it already, so I think it would get me the gearing I want and would fit right in with the look of the bike. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7100/6900895926_2688ab3b42_z.jpg Candidate #2: My A. Homer Hilsen. It's also got a goodly amount of silver and black going. It already has a 44/30 on it, which is perfect. The White on this bike would get a little more Silver on it, and I'd move this 44/30 ring setup over to the Black Mountain. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8152/7188666031_602b9d2d6f_z.jpg Which bike should get the new crankset and BB? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] wouldn't it be nice. . .
From today's NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/18/world/europe/in-denmark-pedaling-to-work-on-a-superhighway.html?pagewanted=2_r=1hppagewanted=all Cheers! lyle -- lyle f bogart dpt 156 bradford rd wiscasset, me 04578 207.882.6494 206.794.6937 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
