Re: [RBW] Re: Wrapping handlebars

[Robert Keal]

 Lee,

Sorry 'bout that. I read your initial post too quickly!

Bob

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Re: [RBW] FS: Tubus Tara + mounts; Nitto 32F mini-rack; XT 10-spd RD-M773; Surly Seatpost Clamp 30mm; Problem Solvers Direct Mount Adapter

[Robert Keal]

 Steve's right. You can get a brand new silver Tubus Tara and LM-1 mounts
shipped to your door in the USA for $136 from the site linked above.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Panniers vs Bikepacking bags

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DP,

I think the claimed handling benefits for a bikepacking setup generally are
only benefits for those who want to ride aggressively on an off-road tour.
My bikes definitely handle more naturally and with less forethought
required when I'm using a basket/seat bag/frame bag setup, but the point of
bike camping for me isn't really to "shred the gnar" so much as to spend
time in the woods in the company of friends (or myself), so these handling
"benefits" don't matter much to me.

My experience with an intense hike-a-bike was with Ortlieb Sport Packer
Plus panniers mounted to a rear rack. It was about 3-4 hours total, and we
must have lifted our bikes up and over 20 fallen trees all while gaining
and losing elevation at a dizzying pace--in 100 degree heat. The panniers
caused me to have to push from an awkward angle. For the first half hour,
it didn't matter. After two or three, though, the awkward position caused a
lot of strain in several areas of my body. Front panniers may have been
easier in some ways, but they present different issues. Namely, each log of
any size requires one to lift or otherwise support the front wheel and bags
up and over, whereas rear panniers allow one to employ the ol' drag method.
:)

Ultimately, I think a front and rear saddlebag with full frame bag setup
might work best for me for off-road touring (and a rear saddlebag with
front panniers for road tours), but I'm going to give the seat bag at least
one more go before I rule it out.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Front Racks: Nitto 32F vs. M18 (And possible WTT/FS 32F)

[Robert Keal]

Thanks, Bill. I trust your analysis and was hoping you'd chime in. It
sounds like I could sell the 32F and get an M18, but it wouldn't
necessarily be an upgrade in capacity, despite the numbers.

I could also kludge together something with the Surly rack so it could fit
my Sam, get bendy with the VO front rack, or go aluminum with the Rawland
Demiporteur or a Blackburn.

I could also just keep the darn rack I have, support the tombstone with a
strap to the handlebars, and forget about it. That seems too easy, but it's
perhaps the right call. Still curious what's out there for potential
trades, though!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Front Racks: Nitto 32F vs. M18 (And possible WTT/FS 32F)

[Robert Keal]

Steve said:

Are sure those aren't warts?

Kind of look like em, but they sure are handy.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Front Racks: Nitto 32F vs. M18 (And possible WTT/FS 32F)

[Robert Keal]

Garth opined:

"If I had a Surly and wanted a small-ish front rack I would get one of
their 8-Pack racks or a 12-Pack for a wider platform and excellent with a
basket. Both rated to 13.6kg/30 pounds and even the 8-Pack is larger
platform than the Nitto. They mount directly to any Surly frame using their
braze ons.  That's just me of course, and I have no allegiance to any
certain brands, just whatever works best."

I agree that the 8-Pack Rack would be a great option for my Troll. I'm
greedy, though, as well as frugal (cheap), and I want it to work on my Sam,
too. I should've mentioned that in my initial post. My Sam has mid-ish fork
braze-ons, but nothing on the crown. Perhaps it could be rigged?

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Re: [RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Robert Keal]

Awesome responses, folks!

While I firmly believe that my n=2, if I were to add a bike, it would most
definitely be a tandem. I planned to buy a 26" wheeled mtb Burly Rock and
Roll off a friend who bought a HHH tandem, but in the end I couldn't
justify it. Pretty bummed about that, but I'm sure another opportunity to
own a tandem will present itself down the road. And when we move away from
my school's campus and back to the city, a cargo bike will be extremely
tempting...

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Re: [RBW] Re: N = ? or How do you decide how many bikes to own?

[Robert Keal]

Ron,

How do you decide how many non-Chinese non-cut cookies to not import, and
which non-Chinese non-cut cookies that you didn't import are currently in
your rotation?

Bob K. in Baltimore

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: VP Pedals on sale

[Robert Keal]

Agreed on all counts, Bill. Patronizing LBSs is fun, and I love the
connection with owners and workers. It feels good to support real people.

But it's not always that easy for me. I tinker with my bikes because it's
fun, and I enjoy it, not because I *need *to. Can I always afford to pay my
LBS--where prices are generally, but not always, competitive with online
sources--for all of the parts/bikes/tools I need to fuel my tinkering fire?
Nope, I can't. So I figure I've got four choices:

1) Don't buy the stuff at all because I don't really need it;
2) Only buy stuff when I can afford it at LBS price;
3) Default to the world wide interwebernets when LBS prices are "out of
reach."
4) Buy used/second-hand whenever possible and forego the whole
retail/discounted retail thing altogether.

I generally get all of my consumables (brake pads, cables/housing, etc.)
from my LBS, but the first places I look for parts are generally this
list/iBob/eBay--and it occurs to me that this could also theoretically hurt
the LBS, although perhaps the parts were or may've been purchased there
originally and this train of thought is now making my head hurt. And I do
often default to scouring different sources online for the cheapest price
on the parts I want. In fact, I'm working on a build right now for a frame
that I'm planning to buy from a LBS, and I'm still scouring the www to find
cheapest prices on parts. I know this hurts my LBS, but I allow the desire
to have the part and the desire to make it fit into my non-existent bike
budget overwhelm my desire to support local business and real people--but
then again, aren't there real people behind those websites, too? And now my
head hurts again.

Anyway, perhaps this has been less a productive contribution to this thread
and more a personal confession. So it goes.

Bob K. in Baltimore

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Re: [RBW] Re: S24o Kit Evaluation

[Robert Keal]

It's interesting to note that location, perhaps even more than season,
dictates what we pack.

For example, it makes a ton of sense for DP to plan for worst case
scenarios given that he's camping (I'd guess, at least) at, near, or above
the tree line in the Rockies.

Also, Phillip is sure to bring rope for a bear bag, which makes sense given
that he's on the East Coast (I think?) and in black bear country. My good
buddy from Northern CA, on the other hand, had never even heard of a bear
bag before this past summer when we went on a trip in VA. Food storage and
safety around Grizzlies is an entirely different issue. (Or is it? Deacon,
do you use bear bags when wild camping?)

In other words, all of our needs are different, and it's important to do
research on possible "snags" you might hit given your location and the time
of year. And if you are truly headed into the wilderness, ye olde Boy Scout
motto, "Be prepared," most certainly applies.

On a related note, here's a winter bikepacking packlist just released by
bikepacking.com, a very cool site.:

http://www.bikepacking.com/plan/winter-bikepacking-packlist/

I think they have a three-season list somewhere, as well.

Bob K. in Baltimore

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Re: [RBW] Re: Huge Rosco Mixte

[Robert Keal]

That was fast!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Huge Rosco Mixte

[Robert Keal]

>
> Garth commented and asked: I didn't even notice those, when did they
> become available for a presale, or did they go that fast  ?
>

It looks like they were announced in the most recent BLUG post. Only six
available.

Bob K. in Baltimore

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Re: [RBW] Re: Huge Rosco Mixte

[Robert Keal]

Daniel,

Will this replace or complement  your Hunq?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Multi Use Path Etiquette

[Robert Keal]

Steve commented:

> Well, there's a difference between the evolution of word meanings as show
> in that article and what we have here.  This was not gradual evolution, it
> was a charismatic writer who simply used it wrong, exactly opposite to the
> accepted meaning, and all his acolytes simply went along.
>
But the same thing happened with the words on the TED list, right? Someone,
at some moment in the past, used a word incorrectly. Their incorrect use of
the word influenced someone else (an "acolyte") to do the same, and so on
and so forth, n*ice* no longer means *silly*. It means pleasant or
agreeable. In other words, what we now see as an evolution of the meaning
of the word *nice *was really just a choice made by one person that ended
up catching on, just like BSNYC's use of the word Fred, and I don't think
it makes a difference if it takes ten years or 100 for the new meaning to
catch on.

On a related note, I think BSNYC is hilarious.

Bob K. in Baltimore

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Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

[Robert Keal]

Another possibility that is similar the the Jones in terms of angles is the
Surly Open Bar. It comes in 25.4. I used it on a vintage mtb build that I
took on a pretty challenging off-road tour in VA this past summer. There
are a couple of hand positions. I didn't have any numbness after hours in
the saddle.

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Re: [RBW] Jones and Hunq

[Robert Keal]

Bill asked how folks are fit for Jones bikes.

The website says riders 5'7" to 6'2" fit the 24" medium. It also says in
many places that buyers are encouraged to call Jeff to talk specifics. So
in the end, I think Jeff would say, "Call me to discuss fit." Guessing
wouldn't be a great move considering a bad guess costs a pretty penny.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

[Robert Keal]

Daniel and Joe--

Yeah, it seems like a Jones Plus may be in my future! Going to have to
pinch some pennies for that day to come, though--maybe by next fall unless
a used one shows up somewhere (unlikely). Luckily, the Krampus may not
stand up when A-B'd with the Jones Plus, but it's still a pretty fun bike
for an ignoramus such as myself! Thanks for all of the great input, and my
apologies to others for throwing a third bike in this Hunq/Jones Plus
thread.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jones and Hunq

[Robert Keal]

I wish I could get my mitts on a Jones Plus for a test ride! I love my
new-to-me Krampus, but I can't help but feel like the Jones is my grail
bike. I keep hearing and reading that it essentially defies categorization
in all the right ways. I also hear that it's fantastic for long rides, on
or off road. Daniel's report definitely seems to lend some backbone to all
of the praise.

On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Clayton.sf  wrote:

>
>
> On Friday, December 16, 2016 at 6:31:19 PM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>>
>> Clayton and Daniel - thanks! Both of your responses just make me want to
>> get out and test ride a Jones sometime soon... I found a semi-local shop
>> that actually has a diamond frame for rent so I think i'll be able to make
>> that happen in the somewhat near future. Daniel your notes about Grant's
>> geographical influence in the design of the Hunq (and other bikes) is
>> interesting and lines up with my experience with my Bombadil.  Both it and
>> the Saluki are perfect for the C Towpath and both are awesome underbiking
>> on singletrack.  And I have plenty to learn from going slower and picking
>> my lines carefully so it's not really a limitation.
>>
>> Clayton your 4 bike stable seems aligned perfectly to my own mental image
>> of a great 4 bike spread!  Funny b/c I haven't ridden any of the 4 bikes,
>> bike tinkering lives in my head as much as in my time in the saddle I
>> suppose.  Still it seems like a clear division of riding styles in your
>> choices.  If I became enamored enough of the Jones it would force me to
>> make a tough decision between the Saluki and Bombadil, much as I like the
>> idea of N+4+1 I think for me 2-3 bikes plus the tandem is the right number.
>>
>
>
> I am always surprised at how far I can press I bike into dirt service. Was
> riding fire roads single track (no jumps) on the fixed gear the other day
> and it worked just fine with 30mm tires. That said, the Jones is a very
> special bike. It rides very different from how you'd expect it to given the
> looks.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Choosing between Sam and Joe

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Gah! See? I did it again! Thanks, Alex!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Choosing between Sam and Joe

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Alex Wrote:

"Based on what you will do with it most often, Sam is king.  Throw on some
Compass Baby Shoe tires and you're off to the races (It'll feel FAST!!)."

I think you meant Barlow Pass, not Baby Shoe, but I don't blame you at all
for getting the names confused. Happens to me almost every time someone
writes the names of Compass tires. That said, I love the names and how they
refer to specific passes, regardless of the potential (and my actual)
confusion.

And clearly you're right; the OP will love either bike as long as he
chooses the one that feels best when he rides it.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Carrdice Bagman Support Quick release for Low Saddles

[Robert Keal]

Thanks, Brian! Carradice mentions something on their site called a "Bagman
Adaptor." I have no idea what that is and I don't know much about these
supports in general as I've never used them before. I'd scoop yours up, but
I'm looking for an Expedition. Good luck with the sale!

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Re: [RBW] 700X42C Tire Recommendation

[Robert Keal]

No sweat!

Cool thing about the Shikoros is they aren't overly heavy even though they
have flat protection in both the tread and sidewalls. I've only ridden a
couple hundred miles on mine at most, but I'm more than pleased with the
ride quality.

Bob

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 9:19 AM, cyclotourist  wrote:

> Thanks D, B, & G! I haven't heard of the Conti Speed Rides or the Soma
> Shikoros... thanks for putting them on the radar! Forgot about the Gravel
> Kings, I know they're supposed to be really good. I might not be able to
> fit anything with any knobs on it though... that 42mm clearance is going to
> be with a round tire measured at the roundest part. Toward the tread it
> tapers in.
>
> Wish I could fit those Supremes, Drew! But just off by a smidge. Great
> deal!
>
> On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 3:26 AM, Garth  wrote:
>
>> Consider the Panaracer 700 x 40 Gravel King SK.  By all real world
>> accounts these actually measure 42mm+ with great cush riding them @ 30-40
>> psi.  I have not bought these myself simply because I don't need new tires,
>> my discontinued Kenda Kwick Roller EZ-ride tires seem to wear very slowly.
>> I would recommend these as the 45c measures about 41mm but for some silly
>> reason Kinda dq'd them.  For comparison these roll about as well as 40c
>> Vittoria Hypers but have alot more  volume and cush. The 40c  Hypers are
>> not a very volumnious tire.
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Albastache Bar

[Robert Keal]

I'm in Baltimore and still on the lookout for an Albastache bar!

Bob

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> Where are you bob? I'm in the Berkeley and could help out locally
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Re: [RBW] Re: Covered Bridge Metric Century, Lancaster PA 8/21

[Robert Keal]

I'm with Kevin and will definitely be monitoring the weather leading up to
Sunday--it'll likely be a game-time decision for me. I suppose I could
throw the fenders back on my Sam and make it work, but I'm not really
looking to ride all day in the rain. Here's to hoping for a shift in the
forecast!

Bob K. in Baltimore

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Lungimsam  wrote:

> Late notice, but I have an extra registration if anyone wants it.
> My friend's wife is having a tough surgery recovery, so he needs to be
> with her at this time and cannot go.
>
> The ride administrators said it is ok to transfer ownership but you have
> to sign the waiver when you get there.
> If anyone wants it we can meet at registration table at an agreed time so
> I can give it to you.
> Not necessary to ride together if you like riding alone better, but I
> definitely would like to start riding by 7:30-8:00 at the latest, meaning
> pedals turning by 8 at the extreme latest. So please try to be on time. So
> maybe we could meet between 7-7:15?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Some recent Gravel & Grind Riv builds and a last plug for our Riv and B-stone owners Bunch Ride Sunday the 14th

[Robert Keal]

As another plug for their rides, I went on a rather epic 53 miler with the
G folks sometime in July. Highlights included countless beautiful country
roads, a river swim stop, a ridiculously tough gravel climb that my legs
and Sam could not conquer without the help of my feet making contact with
the ground (AKA I walked), and a pitch dark single track and road descent
that ended after midnight. In short, it was tons of painful fun.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/15010176

Everybody was super nice, too, and the general vibe of the ride was
decidedly "just ride." Can't wait until the next time I'm able to join up.

Bob K. in Baltimore

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:46 PM, Gravel & Grind Espresso + Bikes <
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> Just for the record, we do rides like this every Sunday night.  Check our
> facebook page for details on em, but they’re a regular thing, and the folks
> who come do the rides are all on the same basic program: smart bikes, go
> slow, ride hard stuff, find cool roads.  They just aren’t all Riv riders.
> So if this ride sounds up your alley, just come on a normal Sunday shop
> ride.  Meet at 4, wheels down at 4:30.  To check mileage or general ride
> direction, just check on FB or Instagram the day of the ride.  There’ll be
> something posted there...  -James
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Re: [RBW] Re: Covered Bridge Metric Century, Lancaster PA 8/21

[Robert Keal]

I'll be on my Sam with 42 mm Soma Shikoros and Treetop saddle wedge (via
Jeff). I'll likely remove the basket for the ride, although I've been
enjoying the setup with my makeshift "rando bag," a large canvas fanny
pack. :)

Bob

On Friday, June 24, 2016, Jeff Lesperance  wrote:

> I'll be there either on my Hillborne or Hilsen. I'm going to investigate
> biking up there from the DC Metro area or driving up ahead of time
> somewhere in the vicinity and doing an overnight or two on the bike, so I
> could be doing the official ride with touring kit.
>
> -Jeff
> Silver Spring, MD
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> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 9:24 AM, JohnS  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone for the awesome response. This is only my second time for
>> doing this ride, so I don't know of a good meeting place. Does anyone have
>> a suggestion? As I said, I would be riding my QB or my Riv inspired
>> Casseroll (mustache bars, Barlow Pass tires, VP pedals, Brooks, Wald basket
>> with Shop Sack).
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 11:13:39 AM UTC-4, JohnS wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone interested in joining me for the Covered Bridge Metric Century in
>>> Lancaster PA on 8/21? I had rode it about 7 years ago and it was a blast.
>>> Very well organized with course marshals at most intersections waving the
>>> riders on, almost non stop riding, plus you get to cross a bunch of covered
>>> bridges. As I recall mostly rolling hills with a long climb just before the
>>> mid point rest stop. At this time I'm planning to ride my Salsa Casseroll,
>>> but would consider riding my 2 speed QB if we build a Riv contingency. I
>>> would advise registering soon if you want to go. Details at...
>>>
>>> http://lancasterbikeclub.net/cbmc.html
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> JohnS
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar Suggestions for MTB Build?

[Robert Keal]

I wouldn't argue. I'm halfway tempted to throw the Moustache bar back on my
Sam with a DD stem--it actually came from Riv with a 100 mm Technomic +
Moustache combo--but I'm happy with the Albas for now, so I won't be going
to the trouble.

Still not settled on a handlebar purchase for my mtb. Silly spending so
much time reading and thinking about this, but then again, maybe not. I'll
pull the trigger on something tomorrow. :)

Bob

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Re: [RBW] Seeking advice (and WTB) front lowrider rack and panniers for canti Sam

[Robert Keal]

Thanks, Bill. My Sam has eyelets just under my canti mounts and near the
bottom of the fork blades. Hopefully that clears it up.

On Monday, May 23, 2016, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Bob
>
> Most Rivendell bikes in 2016 come with fork tips that have rack/fender
> eyelets both above and below the fork tip.  My 2009 Hillborne only has
> eyelets below the fork tips which limits the choices of what I can run.
> The Hub Area Rack, for example, is intended to run on the upper set, which
> my Hillborne doesn't have.  Make sure as you solicit advice, to make sure
> your advisors understand what mounting options you have.
>
> My front rack options that I have used on my 2009 Hillborne are Nitto Mini
> + Platrack sometimes or Nitto Big Front other times.  Both mount well using
> the under the fork-tip eyelets.
>
> Bill
>
> On Monday, May 23, 2016 at 7:36:13 AM UTC-7, kielsun wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I am looking for advice on (and I WTB) front lowrider racks for my canti
>> Hillborne. I am mostly interested in lowrider racks like the Tubus Tara or
>> Duo. Riv's HAR is nice, as are the Nitto Campee and Big Front Rack, but
>> they're probably too pricey for me, even used, unless you're feeling super
>> generous!
>>
>> I also WTB waterproof panniers. I'm open to anything that'll look
>> not-too-horrible with my orange Sam.
>>
>> Please reply off-list with any for sale offers.
>>
>> And please reply on-list with any advice. I'll take it all. Although I
>> have owned my Sam since '09, I have zero experience touring or running
>> lowriders w/ panniers. Are there any other cheaper alternatives I should
>> consider aside from those listed above? My rear rack is a Nitto R-14, and I
>> have a Nitto mini-front that I could use, too, if it works in concert with
>> lowriders.
>>
>> Thanks for any help!
>>
>> Bob
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