Re: [RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-03-07 Thread René Sterental
I just got my Hunqapillar back from the painter last week, and today my LBS installed the headset, BB and crankset. I decided to install the stock Riv 26/40, although may go down to 24 in the future. The thing is, the Phil BB had to be shifted to the right all the way, with the left side flush

Re: [RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-03-07 Thread William
Yes, I do think you want a slightly longer BB when you switch from a triple to a supercompact double. On Thursday, March 7, 2013 7:45:38 PM UTC-8, René wrote: I just got my Hunqapillar back from the painter last week, and today my LBS installed the headset, BB and crankset. I decided to

Re: [RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-03-07 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
yes... longer BB sounds like the ticket. my 2 cents. --Smitty On Thursday, March 7, 2013 7:45:38 PM UTC-8, René wrote: I just got my Hunqapillar back from the painter last week, and today my LBS installed the headset, BB and crankset. I decided to install the stock Riv 26/40, although may

[RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-02-12 Thread charlie
I know quite a few people are going nuts over uber wide cassettes and two rings so maybe they are on to something. Either way steel rings are a good investment. I purchased Surly stainless rings (4434) and they work fine on my triple with a steel 24 tooth. On Monday, January 21, 2013 7:15:38

Re: [RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-02-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I call this sort of gearing subcomact and like the switch to 38/24 on the Fargo (from a 46/36/24 triple). I lose some of the intermediate gears but have the same range and, more important in this case is that when moving from smooth, flat surfaces to sandy, hilly surfaces I don't need to switch

Re: [RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-02-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Whoops! I mean to say that I moved it to the RIGHT a couple of mm. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 8:12 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I moved the spindle to the left by a couple of mm so that the chain tracks pretty straight between the 17 and 19 t cogs (65 and 58 gears; on the

Re: [RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-02-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
You mean shorter, right? -- and that only if you use the outer and middle positions. If you simply remove the outer, there is no need for a new bb at all since normally a middle ring is centered on the cassette already. (In my case, I had a triple biased toward the left to allow me to use the

Re: [RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-02-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Not if you are using a 34 or 36 in back. (Well, I've used a short cage, 8-sp era Ultegra with a 14-32 7 speed, but the rd wasn't happy with the 32). On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: From what I hear you can use a regular road double derailer. It makes a lot of

[RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-02-10 Thread ted
This is where medium cage derailers are great. On Feb 10, 7:26 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Not if you are using a 34 or 36 in back. (Well, I've used a short cage, 8-sp era Ultegra with a 14-32 7 speed, but the rd wasn't happy with the 32). On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 7:29 AM,

Re: [RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-02-10 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Will they accomodate 34 or even 36 to cogs? I've never used one. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote: This is where medium cage derailers are great. On Feb 10, 7:26 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Not if you are using a 34 or 36 in back. (Well, I've

Re: [RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-02-10 Thread William
I've used the shorter cage XT with a 12-36 cassette and a double chainring. The M751 GS is the model. On Sunday, February 10, 2013 11:31:54 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: Will they accomodate 34 or even 36 to cogs? I've never used one. On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 9:28 AM, ted

[RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-02-09 Thread JL
I really liked how the gearing worked out when I set up a 110/74 double on my CB-O townie bike. I set it up similar to the riv quickbeam cranksets with the blank chainring in the outer position. Go for it! I bet that crank setup is going to be really nice on your Bomba JL -- You received

[RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-02-08 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
I've run the 40/26 in the past. Short answer is that it's great configuration. Enjoy it. A few more data points... FWIW... I run a 36/24 (steel/steel) on my Big Dummy... 26t is fine on my Homer but the 24t comes in handy when the load gets big. 2t makes a difference. For reasons too long and

[RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-02-07 Thread Jared Volpe
Thanks for your input everyone! This was totally helpful. Got the bike back on the road today and it is awesome. Went with the chainring guard, a 40t and a 24t all from Riv. On Monday, January 21, 2013 7:15:38 PM UTC-8, Jared Volpe wrote: So I want to do a 40/24 double mod with a Sugino

[RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-01-23 Thread Mike
I keep threatening to set one of my bikes up with this sorta wide-range double. I still have the Sugino crank from my Quickbeam with 40/32 rings. From what I hear you can use a regular road double derailer. It makes a lot of sense for commuting, rambling and even touring. As for rings...

[RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-01-22 Thread William
Re: chainline. You normally try to center the middle ring on the cogset when you run a triple. so with a 9 speed cassette, you'd line up the middle chainring with cog #5 If your 24/40/chainguard setup is going to be ridden as a 1x9 plus granny (as most people do), then leaving your BB

[RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-01-22 Thread ted
Color me slow or weak or whatever, but when I ride my bombadill in the open spaces its more like the small ring is the default and the 40 is just for downhill. That said I still think the chain line is perfectly acceptable without a longer bb. On Jan 22, 9:41 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com

[RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-01-21 Thread ted
24/40 worked fine on my bombadill. Same size gap as the common 34/50 compact. On Jan 21, 8:13 pm, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Riv's version is 26/40. Don't know why they didn't go to 24, but my guess is it has to do the step up and the front derailer efficiency, if that's what

[RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-01-21 Thread Garth
With my Bombadil a 24t ring is as large as I could go with needing a longer BB using a 110mm Tange. And yes SS is the only way to go for the small rings. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on

[RBW] Re: 40/24 double mod on Bombadil

2013-01-21 Thread ted
I always thought it was odd that small rings were al and big cogs were steel. Seems like if you don't want al cogs for 25 teeth you would want steel rings for the small (say 36) rings. Same # of teeth means same load, same wear, very similar weight. On the bb front, converting a triple to a