Re: [RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-10 Thread Joe Bernard
I love the arc and I really hope the frame happens. I also hope we get more info eventually, we've been trying to decipher one diagram offered with no explanation of what it is for a couple months now. I need information! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-10 Thread Garth
While the Boots has a swoop it wouldn't form a perfect circle like the arc of the Anniv. image. The curved TT of the Low Clem is more functional/utilitarian looking to me, not really elegant at all. Not that it's super important, it's just I couldn't help but notice the beautiful perfect

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-10 Thread Johnny Alien
The top tube on the Gus is higher up that that. It's like a swoopy H style not a true step through style like in the diagram. That diagram is showing the top mixte view and the side mixte view. On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 2:38:58 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote: > > But friends, I

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-10 Thread Leah Peterson
But friends, I thought the swooped top tube shown is the Gus bike and the twin tubes floating above are for the Anniversary Mixte. I thought it was both bikes pictured in a single diagram . If not, then the AM definitely has swoopy twin top tubes... Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 10, 2019, at

[RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-10 Thread REC (Roberta)
This is the same pic I just posted and delete, but the name is correct now. On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote: > > > >I'm referring to the side profile Leah, the downward swoop of the top > tubes from the top of the head tube to mid seatstay ! The twin parallel

[RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-10 Thread REC (Roberta)
On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 12:56:42 PM UTC-4, Garth wrote: > > > >I'm referring to the side profile Leah, the downward swoop of the top > tubes from the top of the head tube to mid seatstay ! The twin parallel > downward swooping tubes continue unbroken the whole way from head tube to >

[RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-10 Thread Garth
I'm referring to the side profile Leah, the downward swoop of the top tubes from the top of the head tube to mid seatstay ! The twin parallel downward swooping tubes continue unbroken the whole way from head tube to seatstay. I call it elegant as the line is a smooth arc rather than

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-10 Thread Leah Peterson
OH MY GOSH, Mark, I read Gus as “Grant” and thought you were saying something totally different. I read this when my eyes first cracked open and I read it WRONG. I am so sorry. Disregard! Leah Sent from my iPad > On Jun 10, 2019, at 4:14 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch > wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-10 Thread Leah Peterson
Cinza, who are you asking? Sent from my iPad > On Jun 10, 2019, at 6:53 AM, Cinza wrote: > > If you were blind to the Betty beauty, you would enjoy riding the Clementine > more? > >> On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 11:13:06 AM UTC-7, Cinza wrote: >> I have and LOVE my Betty.. >> But I am

[RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-10 Thread Cinza
If you were blind to the Betty beauty, you would enjoy riding the Clementine more? On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 11:13:06 AM UTC-7, Cinza wrote: > > I have and LOVE my Betty.. > But I am considering a Clem. > I commute around town. > > What I love about Betty (besides being a beauty) is the ride.

[RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-10 Thread Cinza
Closing their doors? Would be tragic, every time my BF is complimented for being beautiful, i reply it rides as beautiful than it looks On Sunday, June 9, 2019 at 11:13:06 AM UTC-7, Cinza wrote: > > I have and LOVE my Betty.. > But I am considering a Clem. > I commute around town. > > What I

[RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-10 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
I am curious how anyone can look at the twin top tubes and see “swoopy.” I want them to be, because I agree with Cinza - I want my mixte to be a step through. I have believed they will be swoopy, trusting the interpretation of others, but the twin tubes appear straight to my untrained eye.

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-10 Thread 'C.Wilson' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thank you. Was this the last heard of the bike, or has anything else been said? > On Jun 9, 2019, at 11:00 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! > wrote: > > Here. He discusses his dreams for the bike near the end of this post... > > https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/2019-3

[RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-10 Thread Garth
Here is the photo from the blahg of the so-called anniversary frame . The elegant swoop is unique to any other Riv. design, as you'd expect a Anniv. Special frame to be. Neither like or unlike a Low Clem or Mixte !

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-10 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Yes, I do remember this now, thank you. Nothing about extra swoopy. And "special" lugs, not necessarily fancy--that's because of the ovalized flattish tubing. A total of 100, so, unlike Clem and Chev, likely to be a full-priced model, if not more. My sense, with the Gus Boots and its

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-10 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Here. He discusses his dreams for the bike near the end of this post... https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/2019-3 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-09 Thread Joe Bernard
He definitely said something about flattish tubes which would be hard to put decals on. I'm not sure about fancy lugs (maybe he said it to you?) but I imagine an anniversary Riv would have them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-09 Thread Leah Peterson
And Grant had said it might have the name Rivendell and am I dreaming it or did he also say he was thinking about fancy lugs for it? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:54 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > This is correct, the mixte or step-through or whatever-the-heck it's called > on the

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-09 Thread Joe Bernard
This is correct, the mixte or step-through or whatever-the-heck it's called on the Blahg was a very low, swoopy design. Much more Clemy than Chevy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-09 Thread ted
Something about bird in hand vs birds in bush. A nth year anniversary bike is as yet a bit mythical, and though I hope it comes to pass It might not. A Clem L can be pre ordered today and possessed before the summer is out, and it’s properties are known (as opposed to being speculative at

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-09 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
Don’t give up on the Anniversary Mixte yet. I can’t read diagrams for love nor money, but a couple of folks on the List here looked at those drawings and said they saw the twin top tubes as being very low and swoopy. Not unlike the Clementine. Where are those folks? Chime in here! -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-09 Thread 'C.Wilson' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thank you, this is an encouraging post… and yes, I agree, the mixte is not the answer for my concern. > On Jun 9, 2019, at 7:31 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch > wrote: > > A mixte anniversary design (and I've only heard it mentioned here, not in any > official Rivendell

[RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-09 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
A mixte anniversary design (and I've only heard it mentioned here, not in any official Rivendell communications-- I guess I missed it) will not address the issue you are having with your Betty Foy in terms of its step throughness. I on my Clementine for over a year, and have ridden a friend's

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-09 Thread Leah Peterson
If you’re gonna use my name, at least get it right!  Leah Belle Shama Lama Ding Dong Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 9, 2019, at 2:17 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Btw, "Leah Belle Dingaling" is supposed to be a term of endearment, we're > friends. In retrospect I'm not sure dingaling was the

[RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-09 Thread Joe Bernard
Btw, "Leah Belle Dingaling" is supposed to be a term of endearment, we're friends. In retrospect I'm not sure dingaling was the charming word I was looking for. Sorry, Leah! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Betty VS Clem

2019-06-09 Thread Cinza
Yes, I would only have one bike. I did not know the fat tires make for a feeling of speed, I was concerned the tires would make the ride feel heavier. You've made me curious about the Anniversary Mixte", I didn't know there was another bike to look forward to. I'll look to find out more on