Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2020-07-05 Thread Joel Stern
Thanks Mike. On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:31 PM Mike Packard wrote: > Well I just posted on the other cork thread but it was suddenly deleted, > so... > > I've found the RBW cork grips to be more durable than than they seem > without shellac. For the cork-curious the Velo Orange ones are really

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2020-07-05 Thread Joel Stern
Jon, I’ve heard some people use pieces of old tubes under bar cloth. Don’t know what road bike tape is. On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 12:54 PM Jon Dukeman wrote: > No cork is mid bar. I put road bike tape under cloth tape for extra > padding then clear shellac over cloth tape and twine.. > About 3

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2020-07-05 Thread Joel Stern
Thanks Kim. On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:59 AM kim young wrote: > I’ve used these. They save my wrists on long rides. > Not sure how much cork they have in them, because they are kind of > rubbery-but they don’t dry out. > > Asti Natural cork foam grips > >

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2020-07-05 Thread Jon Dukeman
No cork is mid bar. I put road bike tape under cloth tape for extra padding then clear shellac over cloth tape and twine.. About 3 coats. Hope that helps Jon On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 9:39 AM Joel Stern wrote: > > Thanks On, did you wrap over the cork? > > On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:25 AM Jon Dukeman

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2020-07-05 Thread kim young
I’ve used these. They save my wrists on long rides. Not sure how much cork they have in them, because they are kind of rubbery-but they don’t dry out. Asti Natural cork foam grips https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CX4Z4X1/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_.EFaFbFA96DK1 kim in az On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 8:39 AM

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2020-07-05 Thread Joel Stern
Thanks On, did you wrap over the cork? On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:25 AM Jon Dukeman wrote: > For cork I prefer Spar Varnish. Save shellac for cloth bar tape and twine > Jon > > On Sun, Jul 5, 2020, 8:39 AM Joel Stern wrote: > >> Would you recommend shallac before putting grips on the bars? >>

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2020-07-05 Thread Joel Stern
Would you recommend shallac before putting grips on the bars? On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 7:54:06 PM UTC-4 René wrote: > Excellent! > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:00 PM Ron Mc wrote: > >> absolutely friend - it will soak right through. >> The U40 sealant won't build up a glaze. >> >> >> On

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-11 Thread René Sterental
Excellent! On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 4:00 PM Ron Mc wrote: > absolutely friend - it will soak right through. > The U40 sealant won't build up a glaze. > > > On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 5:28:41 PM UTC-5, René wrote: >> >> Dumb (probably) question, but if after applying the

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-11 Thread Ron Mc
absolutely friend - it will soak right through. The U40 sealant won't build up a glaze. On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 5:28:41 PM UTC-5, René wrote: > > Dumb (probably) question, but if after applying the U-40 sealant I don't > like it or there's some other issue, can I apply the spar varnish

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-11 Thread René Sterental
Dumb (probably) question, but if after applying the U-40 sealant I don't like it or there's some other issue, can I apply the spar varnish on top of it? René On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 3:13 PM Jon Dukeman wrote: > I have spar varnish (gloss) on my cork grips. One ride I

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-11 Thread Marc Nolte
Agreed. I've done a few bikes worth. Did shellac on grips once, now use spar varnish (polyurethane). Marc Calgary, Alberta > On May 10, 2017, at 5:25 AM, Ron Mc wrote: > > Varnish is better for cork grips - it's flexible and will never exfoliate - > 6-7 thin coats > >

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-11 Thread Jon Dukeman
I have spar varnish (gloss) on my cork grips. One ride I forgot my gloves and thought my hands would be slipping off the grips when my hands started sweating. No so... Gripped like glue. On May 11, 2017 3:55 PM, "René Sterental" wrote: > So did I when I started it! Who

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-11 Thread René Sterental
So did I when I started it! Who knew? On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:49 PM Clayton.sf wrote: > I thought this thread was almost silly when it first started, but I am > learning a lot more than expected! Thanks! > > Clayton Scott > SF, CA > > -- > You received this message

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-11 Thread Clayton.sf
I thought this thread was almost silly when it first started, but I am learning a lot more than expected! Thanks! Clayton Scott SF, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-11 Thread Ron Mc
yes, I use a lot of rod bond products - if you need a flexible epoxy (plugging holes in plastic fenders) theirs is definitely the best. Fly rod builders use U40 to seal their cork. While I knew of the product, I am still happy with spar varnish results on two bikes with cork grips. Is it

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-11 Thread René Sterental
Well, I decided to test the waters for the group and just placed an order for the U-40. It would be great if it preserved the feel of the cork but made it very easy to clean. We'll soon find out. René On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:40 PM Bill Lindsay wrote: > Good thing your

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-11 Thread Bill Lindsay
Good thing your tandem has four grips. You could pick another coating option for that one and do some real science. On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 1:35:37 PM UTC-7, René wrote: > > Yes, seriously considering all three now. Hm... > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:09 PM Ray Varella

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-11 Thread René Sterental
Yes, seriously considering all three now. Hm... On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:09 PM Ray Varella wrote: > Rene, > That may be the best option yet. > Who knew. > > Ray > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-11 Thread Ray Varella
Rene, That may be the best option yet. Who knew. Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-11 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
For the record my untreated ones are dirty but surprisingly doesn't bug me being so. On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 3:41:50 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote: > > Huhlearn something new every day. > > http://www.mudhole.com/U-40-Cork-Seal-2-oz- > > >

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-11 Thread Ryan Fleming
Huhlearn something new every day. http://www.mudhole.com/U-40-Cork-Seal-2-oz- Thanks, gentlemen...probably Ron Mc who's a keen fisherman probably knows about this stuff... On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 2:28:31 PM UTC-5, René wrote: > >

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-11 Thread René Sterental
Actually, I found a large number of threads regarding using a product called U40 (I think) to seal and restore cork in fishing rods and Birkenstock sandals. René On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 12:25 PM Ray Varella wrote: > I did it for vanity Ryan. > I've used the cork grips

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-11 Thread Ray Varella
I did it for vanity Ryan. I've used the cork grips in their raw state and they end up looking dirty. They probably function better with no coating since the cork maintains it's nice dry texture. I'm sure very few, if any, fishermen shellacked the cork handles on their fishing rods. Ray

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-11 Thread Ryan Fleming
Mine aren't shellaced or varnished I suppose varnish or shellac might add a layer of protection..not a bad thing, but do people do this because it looks neat or do they do it because it's necessary? On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 5:43:21 PM UTC-5, Chris Birkenmaier wrote: > > I leave mine in

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-10 Thread René Sterental
Thanks Ron! I'm now leaning to try it. We'll see. On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 3:43 PM Ron Mc wrote: > no Rene, Spar varnish won't get soft and run and it won't be any slicker > than shellac - but it will be more flexible and will never peel off > > > On Wednesday, May 10, 2017

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-10 Thread Chris Birkenmaier
I leave mine in the raw. Hey Rene did you get my PM? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-10 Thread Ron Mc
no Rene, Spar varnish won't get soft and run and it won't be any slicker than shellac - but it will be more flexible and will never peel off On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 4:49:26 PM UTC-5, René wrote: > > Hmmm... now in a conundrum... which should I use? > > Don't like the idea of the varnish

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
Spar varnish From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia *Spar varnish* is a wood finishing varnish . Spar varnish was originally developed for coating the spars

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-10 Thread René Sterental
Hmmm... now in a conundrum... which should I use? Don't like the idea of the varnish getting slick (and sticky or running off?) with soggy leather gloves as when riding in the heat or rain (no plans for that now), wondering how sticky or slippery shellac may get on the same conditions, but then

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-10 Thread Ron Mc
spar varnish is harder to keep, because it cures by exposure to oxygen. To keep it around you need canned inert gas like Bloxygen to blow over the top. But it is flexible. It's what they coat bamboo fly rods with, and think about how a bamboo fly rod flexes. It's like an oil, very low

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-10 Thread Philip Kim
roberta see post above. i would just reapply shellac, it's much easier. On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 9:38:58 AM UTC-4, REC wrote: > > If grips were already shellacked (and now needs new layer), can one apply > varnish over it, or best to stick with shellac? > > Roberta > > On Wednesday, May

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-10 Thread Philip Kim
i've used varnish for finishing decks and used shellac for finishing cabinets. i've never used varnish on cork, always used shellac. everything of cork i've shellacked, have always lived inside, including my bike. varnish cures as it dries. when you apply a new layer of varnish, it will not

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-10 Thread REC
If grips were already shellacked (and now needs new layer), can one apply varnish over it, or best to stick with shellac? Roberta On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 7:25:44 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: > Varnish is better for cork grips - it's flexible and will never exfoliate > - 6-7 thin coats > > >

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-10 Thread René Sterental
Wow, I'd never heard of it. Can you explain a bit more why it's better and what the flexibility you describe means? René On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 5:31 AM Jon Dukeman,central Colorado < row.n.2nowh...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree with RonMc.. > Spar varnish is better than shellac on cork. This is

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-10 Thread Philip Kim
I used about 4 or 5 coats, the more coats the darker it gets On Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 9:22:32 PM UTC-4, René wrote: > > Many thanks for the quick replies! > > I think I'll go with amber, as Philip's photo shows. I agree that the > Selects will darken fairly quickly, and will follow the

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-10 Thread Ron Mc
Varnish is better for cork grips - it's flexible and will never exfoliate - 6-7 thin coats Shellac is for twine wraps - 2 coats -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-09 Thread Ray Varella
Just another data point. I have several sets of those grips. Two sets were done with amber and one with clear. I can't see a bit of difference between them. Ray Vallejo CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

Re: [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-09 Thread René Sterental
Many thanks for the quick replies! I think I'll go with amber, as Philip's photo shows. I agree that the Selects will darken fairly quickly, and will follow the (unknown to me) advice of the steel wool between coats. René On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:59 PM drew wrote: > I

[RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-09 Thread drew
I think it depends on the age of the select. Those get dark pretty quick. I like clear on cork, but it will be less matchy to a honey colored brooks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [Ext] [RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-09 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)
Amber. And steel wool between coats. Beautiful durable matte finish. I'll try to find a pic of my Wilbury -- they're beautiful. Sent from my iPhone > On May 9, 2017, at 8:56 PM, Philip Kim wrote: > > Amber is nice > > https://flic.kr/p/TEaJ6E > > -- > You received this

[RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-09 Thread Philip Kim
Amber is nice https://flic.kr/p/TEaJ6E -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Cork grips shellac - clear vs. amber

2017-05-09 Thread René Sterental
I need to shellac the cork grips I'm using in th Hubbuhubbuh. First time using them. Will they look nicer and match the B-67 Select saddles better with clear or with amber shellac? Any suggestions and/or photos? René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2015-06-02 Thread Jim Bronson
Spar varnish - is this for boat spars, aircraft wing spars, or both? On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: I come from a bamboo fly rod background, and we used flexible coatings to turn fibrous materials into tough composites - spar varnish, and maybe as exotic

Re: [RBW] cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2015-06-02 Thread Ron Mc
any weathering application of a flexible fibrous material that will absorb the oils - bamboo fly rods, too - this one was made in 1915 of course the name came from spars on sailing ships http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/estes/Chama/aP7050087.jpg On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 at

[RBW] cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2014-04-12 Thread Ron Mc
I come from a bamboo fly rod background, and we used flexible coatings to turn fibrous materials into tough composites - spar varnish, and maybe as exotic as mastic varnish on silk thread wraps or to turn an old silk braid into a floating fly line. When I made my first twine wrap on a bike, it

[RBW] cork grips - shellac vs. spar varnish

2014-04-12 Thread Philip Williamson
I feel a trip to the hardware store coming on... That makes cork grips far more appealing to me. I varnished some skateboard pedal decks, but the shellac whitened in the rain. Can I spar varnish right over the shellac, or do I need to strip the shellac off, first? This is to protect and shine

[RBW] Cork Grips - Shellac or No?

2012-02-16 Thread Peter Pesce
Any opinions on whether or not it's preferable to shellac your cork grips? I'm trying them for the first time and they are currently naked, but I was wondering if anyone had pros and cons for leaving them that way vs shellacking them? If it matters, these are the plain version without the

Re: [RBW] Cork Grips - Shellac or No?

2012-02-16 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: Any opinions on whether or not it's preferable to shellac your cork grips? I'm trying them for the first time and they are currently naked, but I was wondering if anyone had pros and cons for leaving them that way vs

Re: [RBW] Cork Grips - Shellac or No?

2012-02-16 Thread Bill Gibson
The finish wears off, is easy to sand off, is easy to restore. Cork grips are easy to repair, reshape, and they evolve with the bike and your use. Hmmm. Wonder how they would age with oiling instead of shellac? On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 16,