Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

On 07/24/2017 10:17 PM, franklyn wrote: I have two RapidRise and 3 normal rise rear derailleurs. The rapidrise bikes have the rear friction shifter mounted on the bar-end, whereas the normal rise bikes have friction shifters mounted on the downtube. I have never made a "mistake". No, the

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

Tennyson! O! How richly mid-Victorian! For no other reason than that these have stuck in my head from my boyhood: 1. He clasps the crag with crooked hands; Close to the sun in lonely lands, Ring'd with the azure world, he stands. The wrinkled sea beneath him crawls; He watches from his mountain

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

And that's why you hoard (and watch eBay). The good thing about rapidrise is that given the same vintage, they tend to cost less than the normal rise counterparts. The springs don't really wear out (especially when you have five bikes) and pulleys are easy enough to source and replace. I also

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

I have two RapidRise and 3 normal rise rear derailleurs. The rapidrise bikes have the rear friction shifter mounted on the bar-end, whereas the normal rise bikes have friction shifters mounted on the downtube. I have never made a "mistake". All five of my bikes have standard-gauge tubing and

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

On 07/24/2017 09:05 PM, GAJett wrote: I have a RapidRise on my AHH, with newish (2010) Shimano indexed/friction barcons. Absolutely love them. On my '73 Raleigh Competition I currently have shifters on the downtube, but will shortly return to '70's vintage Shimano barcons (the ones with the

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

I have a RapidRise on my AHH, with newish (2010) Shimano indexed/friction barcons. Absolutely love them. On my '73 Raleigh Competition I currently have shifters on the downtube, but will shortly return to '70's vintage Shimano barcons (the ones with the inner spring mechanism). While I still

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

When considering all this "skill" just tthink about doing this at night when you're dog tired having already ridden a couple of hundred miles witth many more miles to come. All that fine motor skill ttends to get lost in the sauce. On 07/24/2017 10:50 AM, Patrick Moore wrote: Lesli: Thanks,

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

"only if you could adjust to the reverse shifting moment" -- which in my opinion is what I would call***/easy to go wrong/* and it's also all too easy to end up with one of these by accident. YMMV. Some people actually like them -- but I know (from personal experience with bass ackwards

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

Hey, that's a lot like my Jack Taylor rando bike! This is a picture of it when it was first built, since then I've put 10k+ miles on it. With regards the Lesli's question, on the original build I put some new at the time Sram Red front and rear derailleurs on it and a 9 speed cassette, the Red

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

Is "I agree generally with Steve, but my sole experience with a LX rd from about 2006 (so, 10 speed?) which was "Rapid Rise" -- reverse pull -- was that it shifted beautifully in friction, certainly better over 9 cogs than a Dura Ace 7400, but only if you could adjust to the reverse shifting

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

Lesli: Thanks, but any bike wisdom I have comes from making mistakes -- trying things out in ignorance, and finding out they don't work) and having started quite young so as to have enough time to make more of them. I don't know the model numbers, but the rear derailleurs I have in mind because

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

Novarra steel cages from REI also have the long tabs needed with VO strap clamps (TA clone). However, my VO straps rusted after 2 years, and I went to King Cage stud-welded hose clamps on two bikes. On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 9:26:08 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > On 07/23/2017

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

On 07/23/2017 10:14 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: Wow. That Jack Taylor is gorgeous, and the build is beautiful and meticulous. Is that the frame that was for sale here a while back? Thanks! Yes, that's the one. If so, glad I didn't get my grubby hands on it. (My builds

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

Wow. That Jack Taylor is gorgeous, and the build is beautiful and meticulous. Is that the frame that was for sale here a while back? If so, glad I didn't get my grubby hands on it. (My builds are generally toward the other end of the spectrum...beausage and casual?) Are those the VO cage

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

Lesli I agree with Steve's comments. A new Deore, e.g. M591, would be much better than vintage. The points have better coatings and are freshly lubed, and the range is larger than vintages. Also, the price is very reasonable, $39.99 for a Deore M591. John Hawrylak Woodstown NJ. -- You

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

On 07/23/2017 04:22 PM, Lesli Larson wrote: Patrick- As always - thanks for your wisdom. I'm definitely looking for functional vintage over spendy pretty bits. The bike will be for serious rando so durability is an issue. I just don't like how most new/tech parts look so I'm always erring

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

Beautiful! I've always loved SunTour. Thanks for the info and gear chart! On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 at 5:27:38 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote: > > IMO, SunTour are the best RD and Shimano the best FD, they can still be > found with realistic prices, sometimes even NOS. . > So I'll show my favorite

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

Patrick- As always - thanks for your wisdom. I'm definitely looking for functional vintage over spendy pretty bits. The bike will be for serious rando so durability is an issue. I just don't like how most new/tech parts look so I'm always erring on side of shopping from the past where I can

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

+1 on Ron's take on Suntour RDs. I have several in my "on deck" drawer of the toolbox. Just can't do better for the price. They simply shed wear unless subjected to truly terrible conditions or physical maladies. Shameless "WTB/Crowdsourcing" plug: I'm on an odyssey for a *Mavic 845 rear

[RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

Lesli, I am pretty sure Phil Wood still makes freewheel touring hubs, a simple call or email can confirm this. Just because it's not advertised on their website doesn't mean it is not. Their website has gotten so convulted over the years it doesn't make much sense anymore, so to get an answer

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

IMO, SunTour are the best RD and Shimano the best FD, they can still be found with realistic prices, sometimes even NOS. . So I'll show my favorite drivetrains, which everyone else has seen. '74 Raleigh International Cyclone GT

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

More about the Duopar: http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2014/11/classic-equipment-huret-duopar.html Ignore the warnings about the derailleur wearing out quickly. Mine was used when I bought it, and I’ve put a fair number of miles on it with no ill effects. --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

Lesli: I set up one of my bikes with a Huret Duopar Eco rear derailleur, which I believe the great Frank Berto once called one of the best derailleurs ever made. It’s a bike heavy and complicated, but it does in fact shift very well (although it’s not indexed). I paired it with a matching

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 at 6:46:39 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > ..."nouns have gender, people have sexes" > Wow, true words of wisdom. They might have had problems teaching us that in pre-teen English class. Maybe they "invented" gender to avoid the problems > > John Hawrylak

Re: [RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

Leslie: It all depends what you mean by "vintage." Some "vintage" bits are exorbitantly expensive -- Dura Ace 7410 brake lever hoods. Others are still very reasonable -- Shimano 600 levers. 9 speed LX derailleurs IME shift wonderfully; are those old enough to be "vintage"? 10 speed? 9? 8? 7?

[RBW] Crowd sourcing ideas for vintage parts for a new randonneuring rig (semi sort of WTB)

It's been awhile since I sourced parts for a new bike. I haven't done this since I ordered my custom Riv ages ago. Use: randonneuring Question: what's the current wisdom regarding classic long cage derailleurs, front derailleurs, rear hubs (freewheel or cassette), seatposts and shifts? Have