Re: [RBW] Edelux II Headlamp Moisture - Is my light cooked?

2024-03-18 Thread christian poppell 
Hey Collin,

I had the same issue with my hanging Edelux (also while living in 
Berkeley). The condensation would not go away no matter how long I kept it 
out of the rain. Turns out there was a bad batch of lights. I sent my light 
to Peter White and received a new one from the good folks at SON after a 
few months. 

https://groups.google.com/g/internet-bob/c/YOnBUDLMUT4/m/IpzcM-XXAwAJ ibob 
thread about the process

Best of luck!
Christian
high and dry in Phoenix, Arizona

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 4:09:43 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:

> Thanks Peter et al.,
>
> I'll go with the wait and see approach then (I've got 2 more years on the 
> warrant just in case). The condensation has already reduced a bit courtesy 
> of the lovely weather we have been having here. But regardless, definitely 
> a bit bummed that a $200+ fancy light has water intrusion with (in my 
> opinion) a "normal" amount of rain riding.
>
> Collin, riding dry, in Berkeley
>
> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 5:02:53 AM UTC-7 peter...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It's possible for water to enter the Edelux II housing, though it is not 
>> easy. However, the electronics inside are permanently encased in some sort 
>> of goop (that's a highly technical term) and will never be affected by 
>> water. So just keep riding and after a few days in good weather the little 
>> droplets will disappear.
>>
>> PJW
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 1:16 AM Collin A  wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy Folks,
>>>
>>> I wanted to query the collective experience of the group and ask a 
>>> couple questions regarding the ingress of moisture in my edelux II headlamp:
>>>
>>>1. For those that have experienced it, does the condensation 
>>>eventually dry out? If not, has anything you've tried been successful in 
>>>resolving it?
>>>2. Have there been any instances of a light NOT cutting 
>>>out/dimming/etc. once there is moisture within the light?
>>>3. At the end of the day, should take the "wait and see" approach or 
>>>just call in the warranty before it craps out?
>>>
>>> I only just noticed that there was condensation on the inside of the 
>>> glass this afternoon while removing fenders, so I have no idea how long 
>>> it's been there (although I did do a particularly wet ride last weekend). 
>>> Additionally I haven't noticed any reduced output or other issuesyet. I 
>>> marked the extents of the moisture and took a few photos to see if it'll 
>>> change over time.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Collin, a bit moist, in Berkeley
>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
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Re: [RBW] Edelux II Headlamp Moisture - Is my light cooked?

2024-03-18 Thread Collin A 
Thanks Peter et al.,

I'll go with the wait and see approach then (I've got 2 more years on the 
warrant just in case). The condensation has already reduced a bit courtesy 
of the lovely weather we have been having here. But regardless, definitely 
a bit bummed that a $200+ fancy light has water intrusion with (in my 
opinion) a "normal" amount of rain riding.

Collin, riding dry, in Berkeley

On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 5:02:53 AM UTC-7 peter...@gmail.com wrote:

> It's possible for water to enter the Edelux II housing, though it is not 
> easy. However, the electronics inside are permanently encased in some sort 
> of goop (that's a highly technical term) and will never be affected by 
> water. So just keep riding and after a few days in good weather the little 
> droplets will disappear.
>
> PJW
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 1:16 AM Collin A  wrote:
>
>> Howdy Folks,
>>
>> I wanted to query the collective experience of the group and ask a couple 
>> questions regarding the ingress of moisture in my edelux II headlamp:
>>
>>1. For those that have experienced it, does the condensation 
>>eventually dry out? If not, has anything you've tried been successful in 
>>resolving it?
>>2. Have there been any instances of a light NOT cutting 
>>out/dimming/etc. once there is moisture within the light?
>>3. At the end of the day, should take the "wait and see" approach or 
>>just call in the warranty before it craps out?
>>
>> I only just noticed that there was condensation on the inside of the 
>> glass this afternoon while removing fenders, so I have no idea how long 
>> it's been there (although I did do a particularly wet ride last weekend). 
>> Additionally I haven't noticed any reduced output or other issuesyet. I 
>> marked the extents of the moisture and took a few photos to see if it'll 
>> change over time.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin, a bit moist, in Berkeley
>>
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>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Edelux II Headlamp Moisture - Is my light cooked?

2024-03-18 Thread Peter White 
Yes. We can replace the remote switches.


On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 8:09 PM Peter Adler  wrote:

> That being the case, Collin needs to get out and ride for the next several
> days, as the last few days have been sunny and there's no rain predicted in
> Berkeley until next weekend. It's the longest dry spell we've had this year.
>
> Peter's info on the weatherproof black-boxing of the Edelux's electronics
> is useful to know. I have a couple of third-generation B Luxos U that
> definitely have symptoms of water intrusion; the remote switch of the first
> got cracked in a crash shortly before winter 2023, and it's been erratic
> since. Peter, I've been meaning to send it back for repair; do you have the
> parts to replace Luxos U switches?
>
> Peter "involuntary user of Mr. White's excellent warranty services" Adler
> Berkeley, California/USA
>
> On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 5:02:53 AM UTC-7 peter...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> It's possible for water to enter the Edelux II housing, though it is not
> easy. However, the electronics inside are permanently encased in some sort
> of goop (that's a highly technical term) and will never be affected by
> water. So just keep riding and after a few days in good weather the little
> droplets will disappear.
>
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Re: [RBW] Edelux II Headlamp Moisture - Is my light cooked?

2024-03-17 Thread Peter Adler 
That being the case, Collin needs to get out and ride for the next several 
days, as the last few days have been sunny and there's no rain predicted in 
Berkeley until next weekend. It's the longest dry spell we've had this year.

Peter's info on the weatherproof black-boxing of the Edelux's electronics 
is useful to know. I have a couple of third-generation B Luxos U that 
definitely have symptoms of water intrusion; the remote switch of the first 
got cracked in a crash shortly before winter 2023, and it's been erratic 
since. Peter, I've been meaning to send it back for repair; do you have the 
parts to replace Luxos U switches?

Peter "involuntary user of Mr. White's excellent warranty services" Adler
Berkeley, California/USA

On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 5:02:53 AM UTC-7 peter...@gmail.com wrote:

It's possible for water to enter the Edelux II housing, though it is not 
easy. However, the electronics inside are permanently encased in some sort 
of goop (that's a highly technical term) and will never be affected by 
water. So just keep riding and after a few days in good weather the little 
droplets will disappear.

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Re: [RBW] Edelux II Headlamp Moisture - Is my light cooked?

2024-03-17 Thread Mr. Ray 
As Peter (the distributor of SON) writes, it will dry out.  Has happened to 
both my Edelux 1 and 2 lamps over the years with no effect to the lights 
output.

On Sunday, March 17, 2024 at 8:02:53 AM UTC-4 peter...@gmail.com wrote:

> It's possible for water to enter the Edelux II housing, though it is not 
> easy. However, the electronics inside are permanently encased in some sort 
> of goop (that's a highly technical term) and will never be affected by 
> water. So just keep riding and after a few days in good weather the little 
> droplets will disappear.
>
> PJW
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 1:16 AM Collin A  wrote:
>
>> Howdy Folks,
>>
>> I wanted to query the collective experience of the group and ask a couple 
>> questions regarding the ingress of moisture in my edelux II headlamp:
>>
>>1. For those that have experienced it, does the condensation 
>>eventually dry out? If not, has anything you've tried been successful in 
>>resolving it?
>>2. Have there been any instances of a light NOT cutting 
>>out/dimming/etc. once there is moisture within the light?
>>3. At the end of the day, should take the "wait and see" approach or 
>>just call in the warranty before it craps out?
>>
>> I only just noticed that there was condensation on the inside of the 
>> glass this afternoon while removing fenders, so I have no idea how long 
>> it's been there (although I did do a particularly wet ride last weekend). 
>> Additionally I haven't noticed any reduced output or other issuesyet. I 
>> marked the extents of the moisture and took a few photos to see if it'll 
>> change over time.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Collin, a bit moist, in Berkeley
>>
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>> 
>> .
>>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Edelux II Headlamp Moisture - Is my light cooked?

2024-03-17 Thread Peter White 
It's possible for water to enter the Edelux II housing, though it is not
easy. However, the electronics inside are permanently encased in some sort
of goop (that's a highly technical term) and will never be affected by
water. So just keep riding and after a few days in good weather the little
droplets will disappear.

PJW

On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 1:16 AM Collin A  wrote:

> Howdy Folks,
>
> I wanted to query the collective experience of the group and ask a couple
> questions regarding the ingress of moisture in my edelux II headlamp:
>
>1. For those that have experienced it, does the condensation
>eventually dry out? If not, has anything you've tried been successful in
>resolving it?
>2. Have there been any instances of a light NOT cutting
>out/dimming/etc. once there is moisture within the light?
>3. At the end of the day, should take the "wait and see" approach or
>just call in the warranty before it craps out?
>
> I only just noticed that there was condensation on the inside of the glass
> this afternoon while removing fenders, so I have no idea how long it's been
> there (although I did do a particularly wet ride last weekend).
> Additionally I haven't noticed any reduced output or other issuesyet. I
> marked the extents of the moisture and took a few photos to see if it'll
> change over time.
>
> Cheers,
> Collin, a bit moist, in Berkeley
>
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[RBW] Edelux II Headlamp Moisture - Is my light cooked?

2024-03-16 Thread Collin A 
Howdy Folks,

I wanted to query the collective experience of the group and ask a couple 
questions regarding the ingress of moisture in my edelux II headlamp:

   1. For those that have experienced it, does the condensation eventually 
   dry out? If not, has anything you've tried been successful in resolving it?
   2. Have there been any instances of a light NOT cutting out/dimming/etc. 
   once there is moisture within the light?
   3. At the end of the day, should take the "wait and see" approach or 
   just call in the warranty before it craps out?
   
I only just noticed that there was condensation on the inside of the glass 
this afternoon while removing fenders, so I have no idea how long it's been 
there (although I did do a particularly wet ride last weekend). 
Additionally I haven't noticed any reduced output or other issuesyet. I 
marked the extents of the moisture and took a few photos to see if it'll 
change over time.

Cheers,
Collin, a bit moist, in Berkeley

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