Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
I couldn't agree with you more,especially for parts you like that may be discontinued. I remember getting 3 or 4 7-speed Deore-XT cassettes (which were handy for my mountain bike and X0-1) at MEC for some ridiculously low price like $20 CDN a pop...this would have been around 2003 or so. My revitalized PX-10 was mostly equipped with parts from the parts bin (wheels,crankset,M-bars, headset)...however . Recently I've acquired 2 new NITTO moustache bars because I like them and they should probably be replaced every couple of decades. INVENTORY can take up a lot of SPACE which is a luxury we don't all have...and you might have less than sympathetic partners who think your INVENTORY is really JUNK. I don't have that problem so much, though grin My other tip is...it's easier and cheaper to replace chains than chainwheels and cassettes unless you're running those fancy Wipperman chains On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:16:11 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: One big picture item: INVENTORY. Over the last 4 or 5 years, I've gotten into the habit of stocking up on almost everything. I keep an eye out for deals, closeouts, etc. Spend $40 here, $60 there, maybe $100 every once in a while. Then, when a frameset comes around, a complete bike materializes from the inventory. Some things are weird in the size and fit department. Front derailers and bottom brackets for example, I probably have 10 to 12 of each and even then don't always have what I need. I've got 5 or 6 rear ders, 5 or 6 sets of friction shifters, along with barcon and thumbie and stem mount bases. I've got 3 or 4 sets of Noodles and a bullmoose. Something like 15 sets of tires. Lots of bags and racks. Several nice 27.2mm seatposts. A couple nice spare saddles. I'm kind of low on cranksets, so that will get beefed up this winter. It's really gratifying when you finish what really amounts to a $2500 build and only spent $700 for a frameset because I shopped for all my parts from my own stock. One tiny detail item: I always plug all frame and fork vent holes with a tiny kneaded up blob of beeswax. On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:52:32 AM UTC-8, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Tape the bars with brakes locked hard-closed, so that underlying cable routing doesn't squirm about once you're on the road. 2) Run shift cables (from cockpit controls) X-style below the DT, whenever possible. =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 11/20/13, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote: We Canucks call this stuff hockey tape. Pretty much found in each and every hardware and skate shop up here, I suppose that's not surprising.. KJ On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:15:20 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 11/20/2013 09:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: *Friction tape* is a type of adhesive tapehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesive_tapehttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAdhesive_tapesa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGCVnmhrsjv5aLNLxzD-CW69ARxFQmade from cloth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clothhttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FClothsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNHfCeWX5Dq89kp2Pgnbs59pjI6Pew impregnated with a rubber-based adhesive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesivehttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAdhesivesa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNEmEzYxQ2KTczAIlcvypNBdwO3jlw, and sometimes an abrasive substance, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
#7 Yes I have. Jim (Madison) On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:13:18 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: 1. Think it through, first. Test it first, before committing, if you can. If there are instructions, read the instructions. This applies in great heaping spades to cable housing. (And how do I know that???) 2. Decent tools. I have built complete bikes and hacked drivetrains with the crudest of tools, as a boy, but it is far, far easier to have box wrenches instead of vise grips and pipe wrench, chain tool instead of hammer, nail, and large-ish nut, and a bench vise instead of the hammer again and a stump. And using nail and hammer on the adjustable cup and lockring on an old bb assembly may require patience. 3. Keep track of little parts! Oh, my! I now have a series of small, steel bowls and sardine cans in which to temporarily store those little ball bearings, shifter tension washers, and chain master links. 4. Have a favorite drink handy and pleasant music on the hi-fi. The last drowns out the cursing. 5. Don't tape your bar before you've ridden the new bike at least a few miles. This mistake often goes with cutting cable housing to the wrong length. 6. Know and acknowledge that not all parts work together on all frames. No, you cannot get standard reach calipers to work on a 700c wheel jammed into a rod brake roadster frame. No, an old, worn, coaster brake will not modulate well with a 50/15 gear. No, you cannot salvage that 125 mm bb assembly to use with your Grafton crankset, at least if you expect the chainline to be remotely normal and the front derailleur to work properly. 7. Lastly, a good stand. Hell, even a bad stand. I've torn down and rebuilt dozens of bikes, they either lying on the floor or leaning against the wall -- have you tried to adjust the offside lockring on an old, cheap cup'n'cone bb while propping the bike up with your head? On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a new bike out replacing components...? I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom work at my local co-op. I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into the frame. I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and available, more cush than cork under cotton. You can also run with it without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter configurations or bar height. It's really easy to work with and you can even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or add thickness in other places. What do you have!?! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.htmlhttp://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fresumespecialties.com%2Findex.htmlsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGvfO7XcNjds72nVr2MRK3TzofP3g patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fpatrickmooreresumespec%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGDq66YE8o4yymSTf2GCgueeFKsYQ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a new bike out replacing components...? I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom work at my local co-op. I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into the frame. I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and available, more cush than cork under cotton. You can also run with it without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter configurations or bar height. It's really easy to work with and you can even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or add thickness in other places. What do you have!?! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
On 11/20/2013 09:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and available, more cush than cork under cotton. You can also run with it without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter configurations or bar height. It's really easy to work with and you can even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or add thickness in other places. My favorite base handlebar wrap layer is friction tape . Quoting the Wikipedia: *Friction tape* is a type of adhesive tape http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesive_tape made from cloth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloth impregnated with a rubber-based adhesive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesive, and sometimes an abrasive substance, mainly used to increase grip or friction. Because the adhesive is impregnated in the cloth, friction tape is sticky on both sides. The rubber based adhesive makes it an electrical insulator http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_insulation and provides a degree of protection from liquids and corrosion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrosion. In the past, friction tape was widely used by electricians,^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction_tape#cite_note-1 but PVC http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PVC electrical tape http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_tape has replaced it in most applications today. The frictional properties of the tape come from the cloth material which is often made from cotton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton. One common use is to wrap it around the blade of a hockey stick http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_stick to improve puck http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_puck control. Another use is to wrap it around the handle of a softball or baseball bat to give oneself a better grip. It's also useful as a base when wrapping a bicycle handlebar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_handlebar with handlebar tape. -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friction_tape I thought a definition might be required because so few these days seem to know what the stuff is. It's a challenge finding it in hardware stores -- they look at you blankly when you ask for it in most places. Wikipedia doesn't mention it, but friction tape has a distinctive, unmistakable odor that, for those of us who grew up with the stuff, instantly brings back memories of childhood. We used to not only wrap bat handles (in my case, oftgen recycled broom sticks made into stickball bats) but also baseballs, once the leather covering had ripped off. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
1. Think it through, first. Test it first, before committing, if you can. If there are instructions, read the instructions. This applies in great heaping spades to cable housing. (And how do I know that???) 2. Decent tools. I have built complete bikes and hacked drivetrains with the crudest of tools, as a boy, but it is far, far easier to have box wrenches instead of vise grips and pipe wrench, chain tool instead of hammer, nail, and large-ish nut, and a bench vise instead of the hammer again and a stump. And using nail and hammer on the adjustable cup and lockring on an old bb assembly may require patience. 3. Keep track of little parts! Oh, my! I now have a series of small, steel bowls and sardine cans in which to temporarily store those little ball bearings, shifter tension washers, and chain master links. 4. Have a favorite drink handy and pleasant music on the hi-fi. The last drowns out the cursing. 5. Don't tape your bar before you've ridden the new bike at least a few miles. This mistake often goes with cutting cable housing to the wrong length. 6. Know and acknowledge that not all parts work together on all frames. No, you cannot get standard reach calipers to work on a 700c wheel jammed into a rod brake roadster frame. No, an old, worn, coaster brake will not modulate well with a 50/15 gear. No, you cannot salvage that 125 mm bb assembly to use with your Grafton crankset, at least if you expect the chainline to be remotely normal and the front derailleur to work properly. 7. Lastly, a good stand. Hell, even a bad stand. I've torn down and rebuilt dozens of bikes, they either lying on the floor or leaning against the wall -- have you tried to adjust the offside lockring on an old, cheap cup'n'cone bb while propping the bike up with your head? On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote: Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a new bike out replacing components...? I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom work at my local co-op. I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into the frame. I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and available, more cush than cork under cotton. You can also run with it without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter configurations or bar height. It's really easy to work with and you can even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or add thickness in other places. What do you have!?! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
When installing new cable housing, cut with a Dremel tool cutting wheel and open up the ends with a home-made pokey-spoke (*http://tinyurl.com/lh5bxdy*http://tinyurl.com/lh5bxdy). - David G in San Diego On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote: Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a new bike out replacing components...? I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom work at my local co-op. I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into the frame. I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and available, more cush than cork under cotton. You can also run with it without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter configurations or bar height. It's really easy to work with and you can even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or add thickness in other places. What do you have!?! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
Have a tackle box marked BIKE TOOLS so prying hands know to go somewhere else for around the house tools. On Nov 20, 2013 10:26 AM, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: When installing new cable housing, cut with a Dremel tool cutting wheel and open up the ends with a home-made pokey-spoke ( *http://tinyurl.com/lh5bxdy* http://tinyurl.com/lh5bxdy). - David G in San Diego On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote: Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a new bike out replacing components...? I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom work at my local co-op. I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into the frame. I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and available, more cush than cork under cotton. You can also run with it without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter configurations or bar height. It's really easy to work with and you can even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or add thickness in other places. What do you have!?! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
Hey David, better yet, cut the housing with a piece of old wire in it. Best, Lee On Nov 20, 2013, at 7:26 AM, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: When installing new cable housing, cut with a Dremel tool cutting wheel and open up the ends with a home-made pokey-spoke (http://tinyurl.com/lh5bxdy). - David G in San Diego On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote: Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a new bike out replacing components...? I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom work at my local co-op. I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into the frame. I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and available, more cush than cork under cotton. You can also run with it without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter configurations or bar height. It's really easy to work with and you can even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or add thickness in other places. What do you have!?! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
I'll have to remember that. Me, I use a Park cutter and grind smooth with a bench grinder, but if the wire inside method prevents sharp edges, that would be a lot quicker. One more little tip: per Rivendell's suggestion: a small artist's paintbrush poked through a small hole in a tub of cheap grease makes it easy to apply the stuff to bolts and (as I did just the other day) to the bone dry headset bearings of a cheap, POS (tech term) made in China Diamond Back mtb. On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Lee Chae leec...@gmail.com wrote: Hey David, better yet, cut the housing with a piece of old wire in it. Best, Lee On Nov 20, 2013, at 7:26 AM, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: When installing new cable housing, cut with a Dremel tool cutting wheel and open up the ends with a home-made pokey-spoke ( *http://tinyurl.com/lh5bxdy* http://tinyurl.com/lh5bxdy). - David G in San Diego On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote: Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a new bike out replacing components...? I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom work at my local co-op. I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into the frame. I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and available, more cush than cork under cotton. You can also run with it without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter configurations or bar height. It's really easy to work with and you can even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or add thickness in other places. What do you have!?! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
We Canucks call this stuff hockey tape. Pretty much found in each and every hardware and skate shop up here, I suppose that's not surprising.. KJ On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:15:20 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 11/20/2013 09:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: *Friction tape* is a type of adhesive tapehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesive_tapemade from cloth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloth impregnated with a rubber-based adhesive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesive, and sometimes an abrasive substance, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
1) Tape the bars with brakes locked hard-closed, so that underlying cable routing doesn't squirm about once you're on the road. 2) Run shift cables (from cockpit controls) X-style below the DT, whenever possible. =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 11/20/13, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote: We Canucks call this stuff hockey tape. Pretty much found in each and every hardware and skate shop up here, I suppose that's not surprising.. KJ On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:15:20 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 11/20/2013 09:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: *Friction tape* is a type of adhesive tapehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesive_tapemade from cloth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloth impregnated with a rubber-based adhesive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesive, and sometimes an abrasive substance, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
I use a dremel cutting wheel, but then finish the ends flat and open the ends with a gold old fashioned awl. Anton On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:26:43 AM UTC-5, David G wrote: When installing new cable housing, cut with a Dremel tool cutting wheel and open up the ends with a home-made pokey-spoke ( *http://tinyurl.com/lh5bxdy* http://tinyurl.com/lh5bxdy). - David G in San Diego On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a new bike out replacing components...? I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom work at my local co-op. I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into the frame. I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and available, more cush than cork under cotton. You can also run with it without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter configurations or bar height. It's really easy to work with and you can even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or add thickness in other places. What do you have!?! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
One big picture item: INVENTORY. Over the last 4 or 5 years, I've gotten into the habit of stocking up on almost everything. I keep an eye out for deals, closeouts, etc. Spend $40 here, $60 there, maybe $100 every once in a while. Then, when a frameset comes around, a complete bike materializes from the inventory. Some things are weird in the size and fit department. Front derailers and bottom brackets for example, I probably have 10 to 12 of each and even then don't always have what I need. I've got 5 or 6 rear ders, 5 or 6 sets of friction shifters, along with barcon and thumbie and stem mount bases. I've got 3 or 4 sets of Noodles and a bullmoose. Something like 15 sets of tires. Lots of bags and racks. Several nice 27.2mm seatposts. A couple nice spare saddles. I'm kind of low on cranksets, so that will get beefed up this winter. It's really gratifying when you finish what really amounts to a $2500 build and only spent $700 for a frameset because I shopped for all my parts from my own stock. One tiny detail item: I always plug all frame and fork vent holes with a tiny kneaded up blob of beeswax. On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:52:32 AM UTC-8, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Tape the bars with brakes locked hard-closed, so that underlying cable routing doesn't squirm about once you're on the road. 2) Run shift cables (from cockpit controls) X-style below the DT, whenever possible. =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 11/20/13, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: We Canucks call this stuff hockey tape. Pretty much found in each and every hardware and skate shop up here, I suppose that's not surprising.. KJ On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:15:20 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 11/20/2013 09:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: *Friction tape* is a type of adhesive tapehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesive_tapemade from cloth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloth impregnated with a rubber-based adhesive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesive, and sometimes an abrasive substance, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
Oh, and a trick for getting the ferules to seat all the way before making final derailleur adjustments is to yank an exposed section of cable hard after all routing and bolting up has been done. Anton On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:13:37 PM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote: I use a dremel cutting wheel, but then finish the ends flat and open the ends with a gold old fashioned awl. Anton On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:26:43 AM UTC-5, David G wrote: When installing new cable housing, cut with a Dremel tool cutting wheel and open up the ends with a home-made pokey-spoke ( *http://tinyurl.com/lh5bxdy* http://tinyurl.com/lh5bxdy). - David G in San Diego On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote: Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a new bike out replacing components...? I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom work at my local co-op. I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into the frame. I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and available, more cush than cork under cotton. You can also run with it without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter configurations or bar height. It's really easy to work with and you can even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or add thickness in other places. What do you have!?! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
On 11/20/2013 11:43 AM, Kieran J wrote: We Canucks call this stuff hockey tape. Pretty much found in each and every hardware and skate shop up here, I suppose that's not surprising.. KJ On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:15:20 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 11/20/2013 09:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: *Friction tape* is a type of adhesive tape http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesive_tape made from cloth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloth impregnated with a rubber-based adhesive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesive, and sometimes an abrasive substance, I always thought hockey tape was white. Friction tape is black. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
One tool I use a lot, and I'd be lost without, is one of those retractable magnet wands. Looks like a shiny pen - or car antennae - folded up. Super useful in sucking the bearings out of a wheel or BB when rebuilding. Also useful for sweeping the floor for same bearings when you didn't get them all in the jar lid you were using as a temporary tray. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
Bill: Now that we know, you may have some inquires, especially about the odd bits this group seems to need. What's better than having a hefty inventory of parts? A friend with a hefty inventory of parts. dougP On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:16:11 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote: One big picture item: INVENTORY. Over the last 4 or 5 years, I've gotten into the habit of stocking up on almost everything. I keep an eye out for deals, closeouts, etc. Spend $40 here, $60 there, maybe $100 every once in a while. Then, when a frameset comes around, a complete bike materializes from the inventory. Some things are weird in the size and fit department. Front derailers and bottom brackets for example, I probably have 10 to 12 of each and even then don't always have what I need. I've got 5 or 6 rear ders, 5 or 6 sets of friction shifters, along with barcon and thumbie and stem mount bases. I've got 3 or 4 sets of Noodles and a bullmoose. Something like 15 sets of tires. Lots of bags and racks. Several nice 27.2mm seatposts. A couple nice spare saddles. I'm kind of low on cranksets, so that will get beefed up this winter. It's really gratifying when you finish what really amounts to a $2500 build and only spent $700 for a frameset because I shopped for all my parts from my own stock. One tiny detail item: I always plug all frame and fork vent holes with a tiny kneaded up blob of beeswax. On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:52:32 AM UTC-8, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Tape the bars with brakes locked hard-closed, so that underlying cable routing doesn't squirm about once you're on the road. 2) Run shift cables (from cockpit controls) X-style below the DT, whenever possible. =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 11/20/13, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote: We Canucks call this stuff hockey tape. Pretty much found in each and every hardware and skate shop up here, I suppose that's not surprising.. KJ On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:15:20 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 11/20/2013 09:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: *Friction tape* is a type of adhesive tapehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesive_tapemade from cloth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloth impregnated with a rubber-based adhesive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesive, and sometimes an abrasive substance, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
I've heard it called Athletic Tape, at least at my old Kung Fu studio. They sold it for wrapping stick-fighting sticks. Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 8:43:44 AM UTC-8, Kieran J wrote: We Canucks call this stuff hockey tape. Pretty much found in each and every hardware and skate shop up here, I suppose that's not surprising.. KJ On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:15:20 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 11/20/2013 09:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo wrote: *Friction tape* is a type of adhesive tapehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesive_tapemade from cloth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloth impregnated with a rubber-based adhesive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhesive, and sometimes an abrasive substance, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
Amen to 5 and 7. 5. I attach the (drop bar) brake levers snug-but-loose, and ride the naked bars around the neighborhood, and kind of wriggle them up, down, toe-in, etc, until they're good. Then I lock them down and ride farther, to make sure. Then I tape. 7. I have indeed adjusted fiddly things while balancing the bike with my head. Now I use the stand if I'm just changing a tire, and it's just holding the bike off the ground while I work nearby. - I like to keep my cable housing short but graceful. I hold the housings where they need to run, and turn the bars all the way, both ways, and mark the cable against the stop. I cut it at the mark, and it seems to work. I assume everyone does this, but I did learn the hard way. - Oh! I rebuilt the cockpit on someone else's bike (flat bars to Albas), and only had to buy one brake and one shift cable, because I reused the old rear brake and shifter cables as the new fronts. - I reuse cable ends by pinching them open again, then pinching them flat. - Anytime the bike shop asks if I need cable ends or bolts with that, I say yes. If they charge me, fine, if not, even better. Philip www.biketinker.com On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 7:13:18 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: 1. Think it through, first. Test it first, before committing, if you can. If there are instructions, read the instructions. This applies in great heaping spades to cable housing. (And how do I know that???) 2. Decent tools. I have built complete bikes and hacked drivetrains with the crudest of tools, as a boy, but it is far, far easier to have box wrenches instead of vise grips and pipe wrench, chain tool instead of hammer, nail, and large-ish nut, and a bench vise instead of the hammer again and a stump. And using nail and hammer on the adjustable cup and lockring on an old bb assembly may require patience. 3. Keep track of little parts! Oh, my! I now have a series of small, steel bowls and sardine cans in which to temporarily store those little ball bearings, shifter tension washers, and chain master links. 4. Have a favorite drink handy and pleasant music on the hi-fi. The last drowns out the cursing. 5. Don't tape your bar before you've ridden the new bike at least a few miles. This mistake often goes with cutting cable housing to the wrong length. 6. Know and acknowledge that not all parts work together on all frames. No, you cannot get standard reach calipers to work on a 700c wheel jammed into a rod brake roadster frame. No, an old, worn, coaster brake will not modulate well with a 50/15 gear. No, you cannot salvage that 125 mm bb assembly to use with your Grafton crankset, at least if you expect the chainline to be remotely normal and the front derailleur to work properly. 7. Lastly, a good stand. Hell, even a bad stand. I've torn down and rebuilt dozens of bikes, they either lying on the floor or leaning against the wall -- have you tried to adjust the offside lockring on an old, cheap cup'n'cone bb while propping the bike up with your head? On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a new bike out replacing components...? I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom work at my local co-op. I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into the frame. I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and available, more cush than cork under cotton. You can also run with it without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter configurations or bar height. It's really easy to work with and you can even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or add thickness in other places. What do you have!?! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
Yep. Also learned the hard way. If everything isn't seated hard all the way up the line, you'll do it all again. On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:17:24 AM UTC-8, Anton Tutter wrote: Oh, and a trick for getting the ferules to seat all the way before making final derailleur adjustments is to yank an exposed section of cable hard after all routing and bolting up has been done. Anton On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:13:37 PM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote: I use a dremel cutting wheel, but then finish the ends flat and open the ends with a gold old fashioned awl. Anton On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:26:43 AM UTC-5, David G wrote: When installing new cable housing, cut with a Dremel tool cutting wheel and open up the ends with a home-made pokey-spoke ( *http://tinyurl.com/lh5bxdy* http://tinyurl.com/lh5bxdy). - David G in San Diego On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.comwrote: Whether it's an application of beeswax, a dab of a specific grease, quirky cable routing... What is your own favorite tip or trick when building up a new bike out replacing components...? I'm pretty new to the game but I notice small mentions in some if the riv products of arcane or fancy installs, and I've seen all manner of custom work at my local co-op. I recently had the pleasure of visiting Rob at Ocean Air Cycles and was impressed at the attention to detail in his builds and the small bits and pieces adapted to make fenders and lights melt into the frame. I'll start, not that it's much of a secret but I've come to really like starting my handlebar wrap with a layer of recycled inner tube... Cheap and available, more cush than cork under cotton. You can also run with it without cotton on top as you are trying out different brake/shifter configurations or bar height. It's really easy to work with and you can even cut it in half canoe style to reduce the'thickness' in some areas or add thickness in other places. What do you have!?! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
Yes! How many times have I had to re-purchase a part that I sold off, thinking I wouldn't possibly need it in the future... On 11/20/13, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: One big picture item: INVENTORY. Over the last 4 or 5 years, I've gotten into the habit of stocking up on almost everything. I keep an eye out for deals, closeouts, etc. Spend $40 here, $60 there, maybe $100 every once in -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Favorite Bike Build-up 'Secret'
Best tip ever! On Nov 20, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: 4. Have a favorite drink handy and pleasant music on the hi-fi. The last drowns out the cursing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
