Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

2020-06-11 Thread Joel Stern 
I made a mistake, 46/36/24 but I can use a chain for a 8 speed.

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 12:08 PM 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Joel
>
> You need a 112 link chain based on your 48T ring, 26T large cog and 44.5cm
> chainstay on the Bleriot (RBW brochure).  If you use a 46T ring, then you
> need 110 links.  Per the 'long' chain link formula.  Most chains are 116L
> so you need to remove 4 to 6 links for 112 and 110
>
> Maybe your chain was too long a chain on it initially
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Thursday, June 11, 2020 at 9:37:33 AM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote:
>>
>> Here are some pics, the Sugino is a 26 not a 36.
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/153146664@N02/?
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 4:46 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>>
>>> Bleriot Tune Up
>>>
>>>
>>> I had the Bleriot that had not been ridden in 10 years except for 3
>>> rides last week to the bike shop, a local shop, all kids, never used this
>>> shop before. I was told when I brought it in the rear derailleur was bent,
>>> but I asked them to check the hanger as advised by Rivendell.
>>>
>>>
>>> The bike had been having a rough not smooth feeling when pedaling in
>>> many gears, almost all. I thought the rear wheel was out of true, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> So I pick the bike up today and I was told it is great, rear Derailleur
>>> and hanger are fine. So I take it for a ride and the same rough feeling
>>> after shifting. They took one link out of the chain and said that it was
>>> too loose but nothing really changed.
>>>
>>> When I came back and talked to them I had a few things to ask them
>>>
>>>
>>>1. The rear brake was rubbing on the rim, I was told it was because
>>>of my rack and the rack had to come off, when I got home I loosened the
>>>quick release on the wheel and moved the rim over and it is fine now as 
>>> far
>>>as the brake is not rubbing. I was very surprised this your kid who was 
>>> not
>>>low level, not a wrench but he should have known.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. For the rough pedaling feeling I was told the following and I will
>>> put in quotes as best as I can remember. Now I have a TA Zephyr crank, they
>>> said I need a whole new drive train, I told them there was no way I was not
>>> going to use the TA, and that I need a  new FW (I have 2 at home
>>> that look as new or as close as possible), and I need a new chain (this one
>>> I buy more than the first two)
>>>
>>>
>>> So here is what I was told.  “the chain needs to be replaced and the
>>> cassette (he did not know it was a FW) needs replacing and the crank needs
>>> to be replaced as it is worn”. “We know this because of this little tool we
>>> have that measure then chain” Maybe it is but the bike was used for 2 or so
>>> years, and it was not my main bike as my Custom was before the car accident
>>> the sidelined riding for me. It sat for 10 years with a bit of use on
>>> rollers with a fork mount, very little use due to my back and knees. So I
>>> raided my parts bin when I got home.
>>>
>>>
>>> I found my TA BB tool (not sure if they will need that (not this shop
>>> but another that I will now have to hunt for but I can do that).
>>>
>>>
>>> Here are all of the parts I found
>>>
>>>
>>> 2 13x26 FW’s in almost if not new condition.
>>>
>>>
>>> I use  the TA crank w/ 48/38/24
>>>
>>>
>>> Now I did find one new TA 38 in the basement, all the rest are no brand
>>>
>>>
>>> If anyone has any TA 110 front rings please let me know
>>>
>>>
>>> I found d 38, 36, 28, 26, 24
>>>
>>>
>>> I did not find a 48.
>>>
>>>
>>> OK I need advise on what your thought are. I really want the bike to
>>> ride smooth again when pedaling, I was told if I had them put a new chain
>>> on “it would make everything worse”.
>>>
>>>
>>> Also they thought the Deore rear I brought  would not work as it is a 9
>>> speed, I had to explain to this nice kid it did not matter as I friction
>>> shift.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bonus, I also found a NOS suntour rear Derailleur in the basement but
>>> think I will keep the Deore as well as it was not expensive at REI.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please help
>>>
>>>
>>> I am near Springfield MA if anyone knows of a good bike shop in the
>>> Hartford, Springfield, Nothampton area.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am cross posting to iBob as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> Joel
>>>
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Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

2020-06-11 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch 
Joel

You need a 112 link chain based on your 48T ring, 26T large cog and 44.5cm 
chainstay on the Bleriot (RBW brochure).  If you use a 46T ring, then you 
need 110 links.  Per the 'long' chain link formula.  Most chains are 116L 
so you need to remove 4 to 6 links for 112 and 110

Maybe your chain was too long a chain on it initially

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Thursday, June 11, 2020 at 9:37:33 AM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote:
>
> Here are some pics, the Sugino is a 26 not a 36.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/153146664@N02/?
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 4:46 PM Joel Stern  > wrote:
>
>> Bleriot Tune Up
>>
>>
>> I had the Bleriot that had not been ridden in 10 years except for 3 rides 
>> last week to the bike shop, a local shop, all kids, never used this shop 
>> before. I was told when I brought it in the rear derailleur was bent, but I 
>> asked them to check the hanger as advised by Rivendell.  
>>
>>
>> The bike had been having a rough not smooth feeling when pedaling in many 
>> gears, almost all. I thought the rear wheel was out of true, etc.
>>
>>
>> So I pick the bike up today and I was told it is great, rear Derailleur 
>> and hanger are fine. So I take it for a ride and the same rough feeling 
>> after shifting. They took one link out of the chain and said that it was 
>> too loose but nothing really changed.
>>
>> When I came back and talked to them I had a few things to ask them
>>
>>
>>1. The rear brake was rubbing on the rim, I was told it was because 
>>of my rack and the rack had to come off, when I got home I loosened the 
>>quick release on the wheel and moved the rim over and it is fine now as 
>> far 
>>as the brake is not rubbing. I was very surprised this your kid who was 
>> not 
>>low level, not a wrench but he should have known.
>>
>>
>> 2. For the rough pedaling feeling I was told the following and I will put 
>> in quotes as best as I can remember. Now I have a TA Zephyr crank, they 
>> said I need a whole new drive train, I told them there was no way I was not 
>> going to use the TA, and that I need a  new FW (I have 2 at home 
>> that look as new or as close as possible), and I need a new chain (this one 
>> I buy more than the first two)
>>
>>
>> So here is what I was told.  “the chain needs to be replaced and the 
>> cassette (he did not know it was a FW) needs replacing and the crank needs 
>> to be replaced as it is worn”. “We know this because of this little tool we 
>> have that measure then chain” Maybe it is but the bike was used for 2 or so 
>> years, and it was not my main bike as my Custom was before the car accident 
>> the sidelined riding for me. It sat for 10 years with a bit of use on 
>> rollers with a fork mount, very little use due to my back and knees. So I 
>> raided my parts bin when I got home.
>>
>>
>> I found my TA BB tool (not sure if they will need that (not this shop but 
>> another that I will now have to hunt for but I can do that). 
>>
>>
>> Here are all of the parts I found
>>
>>
>> 2 13x26 FW’s in almost if not new condition.
>>
>>
>> I use  the TA crank w/ 48/38/24
>>
>>
>> Now I did find one new TA 38 in the basement, all the rest are no brand
>>
>>
>> If anyone has any TA 110 front rings please let me know
>>
>>
>> I found d 38, 36, 28, 26, 24
>>
>>
>> I did not find a 48.
>>
>>
>> OK I need advise on what your thought are. I really want the bike to ride 
>> smooth again when pedaling, I was told if I had them put a new chain on “it 
>> would make everything worse”. 
>>
>>
>> Also they thought the Deore rear I brought  would not work as it is a 9 
>> speed, I had to explain to this nice kid it did not matter as I friction 
>> shift.
>>
>>
>> Bonus, I also found a NOS suntour rear Derailleur in the basement but 
>> think I will keep the Deore as well as it was not expensive at REI.   
>>
>>
>> Please help
>>
>>
>> I am near Springfield MA if anyone knows of a good bike shop in the 
>> Hartford, Springfield, Nothampton area.
>>
>>
>> I am cross posting to iBob as well.
>>
>>
>> Joel
>>
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Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

2020-06-11 Thread 'John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch 
Joel

Your chain rings look pretty good to me.  I don't see signs of 'shark fins'.

I have good luck with a KMC X8 chains, 8 speed chain on a 7 speed cassette 
with a 9sp Deore M591SGS RD.  They are about $15 on Amazon and come with 
the removable link.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

2020-06-11 Thread Joel Stern 
Here are some pics, the Sugino is a 26 not a 36.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/153146664@N02/?

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 4:46 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> Bleriot Tune Up
>
>
> I had the Bleriot that had not been ridden in 10 years except for 3 rides
> last week to the bike shop, a local shop, all kids, never used this shop
> before. I was told when I brought it in the rear derailleur was bent, but I
> asked them to check the hanger as advised by Rivendell.
>
>
> The bike had been having a rough not smooth feeling when pedaling in many
> gears, almost all. I thought the rear wheel was out of true, etc.
>
>
> So I pick the bike up today and I was told it is great, rear Derailleur
> and hanger are fine. So I take it for a ride and the same rough feeling
> after shifting. They took one link out of the chain and said that it was
> too loose but nothing really changed.
>
> When I came back and talked to them I had a few things to ask them
>
>
>1. The rear brake was rubbing on the rim, I was told it was because of
>my rack and the rack had to come off, when I got home I loosened the quick
>release on the wheel and moved the rim over and it is fine now as far as
>the brake is not rubbing. I was very surprised this your kid who was not
>low level, not a wrench but he should have known.
>
>
> 2. For the rough pedaling feeling I was told the following and I will put
> in quotes as best as I can remember. Now I have a TA Zephyr crank, they
> said I need a whole new drive train, I told them there was no way I was not
> going to use the TA, and that I need a  new FW (I have 2 at home
> that look as new or as close as possible), and I need a new chain (this one
> I buy more than the first two)
>
>
> So here is what I was told.  “the chain needs to be replaced and the
> cassette (he did not know it was a FW) needs replacing and the crank needs
> to be replaced as it is worn”. “We know this because of this little tool we
> have that measure then chain” Maybe it is but the bike was used for 2 or so
> years, and it was not my main bike as my Custom was before the car accident
> the sidelined riding for me. It sat for 10 years with a bit of use on
> rollers with a fork mount, very little use due to my back and knees. So I
> raided my parts bin when I got home.
>
>
> I found my TA BB tool (not sure if they will need that (not this shop but
> another that I will now have to hunt for but I can do that).
>
>
> Here are all of the parts I found
>
>
> 2 13x26 FW’s in almost if not new condition.
>
>
> I use  the TA crank w/ 48/38/24
>
>
> Now I did find one new TA 38 in the basement, all the rest are no brand
>
>
> If anyone has any TA 110 front rings please let me know
>
>
> I found d 38, 36, 28, 26, 24
>
>
> I did not find a 48.
>
>
> OK I need advise on what your thought are. I really want the bike to ride
> smooth again when pedaling, I was told if I had them put a new chain on “it
> would make everything worse”.
>
>
> Also they thought the Deore rear I brought  would not work as it is a 9
> speed, I had to explain to this nice kid it did not matter as I friction
> shift.
>
>
> Bonus, I also found a NOS suntour rear Derailleur in the basement but
> think I will keep the Deore as well as it was not expensive at REI.
>
>
> Please help
>
>
> I am near Springfield MA if anyone knows of a good bike shop in the
> Hartford, Springfield, Nothampton area.
>
>
> I am cross posting to iBob as well.
>
>
> Joel
>
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Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

2020-06-10 Thread Joel Stern 
I seem to be unable to send pics as the files are too large

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 4:46 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> Bleriot Tune Up
>
>
> I had the Bleriot that had not been ridden in 10 years except for 3 rides
> last week to the bike shop, a local shop, all kids, never used this shop
> before. I was told when I brought it in the rear derailleur was bent, but I
> asked them to check the hanger as advised by Rivendell.
>
>
> The bike had been having a rough not smooth feeling when pedaling in many
> gears, almost all. I thought the rear wheel was out of true, etc.
>
>
> So I pick the bike up today and I was told it is great, rear Derailleur
> and hanger are fine. So I take it for a ride and the same rough feeling
> after shifting. They took one link out of the chain and said that it was
> too loose but nothing really changed.
>
> When I came back and talked to them I had a few things to ask them
>
>
>1. The rear brake was rubbing on the rim, I was told it was because of
>my rack and the rack had to come off, when I got home I loosened the quick
>release on the wheel and moved the rim over and it is fine now as far as
>the brake is not rubbing. I was very surprised this your kid who was not
>low level, not a wrench but he should have known.
>
>
> 2. For the rough pedaling feeling I was told the following and I will put
> in quotes as best as I can remember. Now I have a TA Zephyr crank, they
> said I need a whole new drive train, I told them there was no way I was not
> going to use the TA, and that I need a  new FW (I have 2 at home
> that look as new or as close as possible), and I need a new chain (this one
> I buy more than the first two)
>
>
> So here is what I was told.  “the chain needs to be replaced and the
> cassette (he did not know it was a FW) needs replacing and the crank needs
> to be replaced as it is worn”. “We know this because of this little tool we
> have that measure then chain” Maybe it is but the bike was used for 2 or so
> years, and it was not my main bike as my Custom was before the car accident
> the sidelined riding for me. It sat for 10 years with a bit of use on
> rollers with a fork mount, very little use due to my back and knees. So I
> raided my parts bin when I got home.
>
>
> I found my TA BB tool (not sure if they will need that (not this shop but
> another that I will now have to hunt for but I can do that).
>
>
> Here are all of the parts I found
>
>
> 2 13x26 FW’s in almost if not new condition.
>
>
> I use  the TA crank w/ 48/38/24
>
>
> Now I did find one new TA 38 in the basement, all the rest are no brand
>
>
> If anyone has any TA 110 front rings please let me know
>
>
> I found d 38, 36, 28, 26, 24
>
>
> I did not find a 48.
>
>
> OK I need advise on what your thought are. I really want the bike to ride
> smooth again when pedaling, I was told if I had them put a new chain on “it
> would make everything worse”.
>
>
> Also they thought the Deore rear I brought  would not work as it is a 9
> speed, I had to explain to this nice kid it did not matter as I friction
> shift.
>
>
> Bonus, I also found a NOS suntour rear Derailleur in the basement but
> think I will keep the Deore as well as it was not expensive at REI.
>
>
> Please help
>
>
> I am near Springfield MA if anyone knows of a good bike shop in the
> Hartford, Springfield, Nothampton area.
>
>
> I am cross posting to iBob as well.
>
>
> Joel
>
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Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

2020-06-10 Thread Joel Stern 
Thanks John

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:03 PM John H.  wrote:

> For what it’s worth, I’m currently running that chain with TA Syrius 9/10
> speed rings and have no issues.
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Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

2020-06-10 Thread John H. 
For what it’s worth, I’m currently running that chain with TA Syrius 9/10 speed 
rings and have no issues. 

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Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

2020-06-10 Thread Joel Stern 
Peter White recommended Connex Chain model 908. any thoughts?

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 7:23 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> Quick update.  So I took the wheel I had on the bike for when I put it on
> the rollers, the one I used on the first ride that felt the way I
> remembered the Bleriot feeling. Well it is perfect, I don't like the tire
> but that I will change and still get my drivetrain looked at. So here is my
> limited assumption, the FW and chain have to be replaced, maybe the chain
> rings on the TA, I have one new in package so I would just need 2. The
> whole drive trains is just gunked up and the shop led me to believe they
> would be cleaning the entire bike, did not happen. Too bad, on the lookout
> for a good bobish shop. There may be one in Northampton, not too far from
> home, there will of course be something further away, Harris may be one,
> and there is one other I am thinking of. The good news is I know what the
> problem is and now I can deal with it. I do have to clean my Freewheels
> that are on the 2 rear wheels I have, and the front rings, maybe not till I
> get my new chain, and they said they would be cleaning the chain too, so
> much for words. Thanks all.
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 4:46 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>
>> Bleriot Tune Up
>>
>>
>> I had the Bleriot that had not been ridden in 10 years except for 3 rides
>> last week to the bike shop, a local shop, all kids, never used this shop
>> before. I was told when I brought it in the rear derailleur was bent, but I
>> asked them to check the hanger as advised by Rivendell.
>>
>>
>> The bike had been having a rough not smooth feeling when pedaling in many
>> gears, almost all. I thought the rear wheel was out of true, etc.
>>
>>
>> So I pick the bike up today and I was told it is great, rear Derailleur
>> and hanger are fine. So I take it for a ride and the same rough feeling
>> after shifting. They took one link out of the chain and said that it was
>> too loose but nothing really changed.
>>
>> When I came back and talked to them I had a few things to ask them
>>
>>
>>1. The rear brake was rubbing on the rim, I was told it was because
>>of my rack and the rack had to come off, when I got home I loosened the
>>quick release on the wheel and moved the rim over and it is fine now as 
>> far
>>as the brake is not rubbing. I was very surprised this your kid who was 
>> not
>>low level, not a wrench but he should have known.
>>
>>
>> 2. For the rough pedaling feeling I was told the following and I will put
>> in quotes as best as I can remember. Now I have a TA Zephyr crank, they
>> said I need a whole new drive train, I told them there was no way I was not
>> going to use the TA, and that I need a  new FW (I have 2 at home
>> that look as new or as close as possible), and I need a new chain (this one
>> I buy more than the first two)
>>
>>
>> So here is what I was told.  “the chain needs to be replaced and the
>> cassette (he did not know it was a FW) needs replacing and the crank needs
>> to be replaced as it is worn”. “We know this because of this little tool we
>> have that measure then chain” Maybe it is but the bike was used for 2 or so
>> years, and it was not my main bike as my Custom was before the car accident
>> the sidelined riding for me. It sat for 10 years with a bit of use on
>> rollers with a fork mount, very little use due to my back and knees. So I
>> raided my parts bin when I got home.
>>
>>
>> I found my TA BB tool (not sure if they will need that (not this shop but
>> another that I will now have to hunt for but I can do that).
>>
>>
>> Here are all of the parts I found
>>
>>
>> 2 13x26 FW’s in almost if not new condition.
>>
>>
>> I use  the TA crank w/ 48/38/24
>>
>>
>> Now I did find one new TA 38 in the basement, all the rest are no brand
>>
>>
>> If anyone has any TA 110 front rings please let me know
>>
>>
>> I found d 38, 36, 28, 26, 24
>>
>>
>> I did not find a 48.
>>
>>
>> OK I need advise on what your thought are. I really want the bike to ride
>> smooth again when pedaling, I was told if I had them put a new chain on “it
>> would make everything worse”.
>>
>>
>> Also they thought the Deore rear I brought  would not work as it is a 9
>> speed, I had to explain to this nice kid it did not matter as I friction
>> shift.
>>
>>
>> Bonus, I also found a NOS suntour rear Derailleur in the basement but
>> think I will keep the Deore as well as it was not expensive at REI.
>>
>>
>> Please help
>>
>>
>> I am near Springfield MA if anyone knows of a good bike shop in the
>> Hartford, Springfield, Nothampton area.
>>
>>
>> I am cross posting to iBob as well.
>>
>>
>> Joel
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Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

2020-06-10 Thread Joel Stern 
Quick update.  So I took the wheel I had on the bike for when I put it on
the rollers, the one I used on the first ride that felt the way I
remembered the Bleriot feeling. Well it is perfect, I don't like the tire
but that I will change and still get my drivetrain looked at. So here is my
limited assumption, the FW and chain have to be replaced, maybe the chain
rings on the TA, I have one new in package so I would just need 2. The
whole drive trains is just gunked up and the shop led me to believe they
would be cleaning the entire bike, did not happen. Too bad, on the lookout
for a good bobish shop. There may be one in Northampton, not too far from
home, there will of course be something further away, Harris may be one,
and there is one other I am thinking of. The good news is I know what the
problem is and now I can deal with it. I do have to clean my Freewheels
that are on the 2 rear wheels I have, and the front rings, maybe not till I
get my new chain, and they said they would be cleaning the chain too, so
much for words. Thanks all.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 4:46 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> Bleriot Tune Up
>
>
> I had the Bleriot that had not been ridden in 10 years except for 3 rides
> last week to the bike shop, a local shop, all kids, never used this shop
> before. I was told when I brought it in the rear derailleur was bent, but I
> asked them to check the hanger as advised by Rivendell.
>
>
> The bike had been having a rough not smooth feeling when pedaling in many
> gears, almost all. I thought the rear wheel was out of true, etc.
>
>
> So I pick the bike up today and I was told it is great, rear Derailleur
> and hanger are fine. So I take it for a ride and the same rough feeling
> after shifting. They took one link out of the chain and said that it was
> too loose but nothing really changed.
>
> When I came back and talked to them I had a few things to ask them
>
>
>1. The rear brake was rubbing on the rim, I was told it was because of
>my rack and the rack had to come off, when I got home I loosened the quick
>release on the wheel and moved the rim over and it is fine now as far as
>the brake is not rubbing. I was very surprised this your kid who was not
>low level, not a wrench but he should have known.
>
>
> 2. For the rough pedaling feeling I was told the following and I will put
> in quotes as best as I can remember. Now I have a TA Zephyr crank, they
> said I need a whole new drive train, I told them there was no way I was not
> going to use the TA, and that I need a  new FW (I have 2 at home
> that look as new or as close as possible), and I need a new chain (this one
> I buy more than the first two)
>
>
> So here is what I was told.  “the chain needs to be replaced and the
> cassette (he did not know it was a FW) needs replacing and the crank needs
> to be replaced as it is worn”. “We know this because of this little tool we
> have that measure then chain” Maybe it is but the bike was used for 2 or so
> years, and it was not my main bike as my Custom was before the car accident
> the sidelined riding for me. It sat for 10 years with a bit of use on
> rollers with a fork mount, very little use due to my back and knees. So I
> raided my parts bin when I got home.
>
>
> I found my TA BB tool (not sure if they will need that (not this shop but
> another that I will now have to hunt for but I can do that).
>
>
> Here are all of the parts I found
>
>
> 2 13x26 FW’s in almost if not new condition.
>
>
> I use  the TA crank w/ 48/38/24
>
>
> Now I did find one new TA 38 in the basement, all the rest are no brand
>
>
> If anyone has any TA 110 front rings please let me know
>
>
> I found d 38, 36, 28, 26, 24
>
>
> I did not find a 48.
>
>
> OK I need advise on what your thought are. I really want the bike to ride
> smooth again when pedaling, I was told if I had them put a new chain on “it
> would make everything worse”.
>
>
> Also they thought the Deore rear I brought  would not work as it is a 9
> speed, I had to explain to this nice kid it did not matter as I friction
> shift.
>
>
> Bonus, I also found a NOS suntour rear Derailleur in the basement but
> think I will keep the Deore as well as it was not expensive at REI.
>
>
> Please help
>
>
> I am near Springfield MA if anyone knows of a good bike shop in the
> Hartford, Springfield, Nothampton area.
>
>
> I am cross posting to iBob as well.
>
>
> Joel
>
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Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

2020-06-10 Thread Joel Stern 
Hugh, thank you. How are things with you?  I will call him now although he
may not be in.

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:20 PM hugh flynn  wrote:

> Hey Joel!
>
> I would give Parker at Laughing Dog in Amherst a call. He'll be able to
> help diagnose the problem.
>
> Hugh
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 4:46 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>
>> Bleriot Tune Up
>>
>>
>> I had the Bleriot that had not been ridden in 10 years except for 3 rides
>> last week to the bike shop, a local shop, all kids, never used this shop
>> before. I was told when I brought it in the rear derailleur was bent, but I
>> asked them to check the hanger as advised by Rivendell.
>>
>>
>> The bike had been having a rough not smooth feeling when pedaling in many
>> gears, almost all. I thought the rear wheel was out of true, etc.
>>
>>
>> So I pick the bike up today and I was told it is great, rear Derailleur
>> and hanger are fine. So I take it for a ride and the same rough feeling
>> after shifting. They took one link out of the chain and said that it was
>> too loose but nothing really changed.
>>
>> When I came back and talked to them I had a few things to ask them
>>
>>
>>1. The rear brake was rubbing on the rim, I was told it was because
>>of my rack and the rack had to come off, when I got home I loosened the
>>quick release on the wheel and moved the rim over and it is fine now as 
>> far
>>as the brake is not rubbing. I was very surprised this your kid who was 
>> not
>>low level, not a wrench but he should have known.
>>
>>
>> 2. For the rough pedaling feeling I was told the following and I will put
>> in quotes as best as I can remember. Now I have a TA Zephyr crank, they
>> said I need a whole new drive train, I told them there was no way I was not
>> going to use the TA, and that I need a  new FW (I have 2 at home
>> that look as new or as close as possible), and I need a new chain (this one
>> I buy more than the first two)
>>
>>
>> So here is what I was told.  “the chain needs to be replaced and the
>> cassette (he did not know it was a FW) needs replacing and the crank needs
>> to be replaced as it is worn”. “We know this because of this little tool we
>> have that measure then chain” Maybe it is but the bike was used for 2 or so
>> years, and it was not my main bike as my Custom was before the car accident
>> the sidelined riding for me. It sat for 10 years with a bit of use on
>> rollers with a fork mount, very little use due to my back and knees. So I
>> raided my parts bin when I got home.
>>
>>
>> I found my TA BB tool (not sure if they will need that (not this shop but
>> another that I will now have to hunt for but I can do that).
>>
>>
>> Here are all of the parts I found
>>
>>
>> 2 13x26 FW’s in almost if not new condition.
>>
>>
>> I use  the TA crank w/ 48/38/24
>>
>>
>> Now I did find one new TA 38 in the basement, all the rest are no brand
>>
>>
>> If anyone has any TA 110 front rings please let me know
>>
>>
>> I found d 38, 36, 28, 26, 24
>>
>>
>> I did not find a 48.
>>
>>
>> OK I need advise on what your thought are. I really want the bike to ride
>> smooth again when pedaling, I was told if I had them put a new chain on “it
>> would make everything worse”.
>>
>>
>> Also they thought the Deore rear I brought  would not work as it is a 9
>> speed, I had to explain to this nice kid it did not matter as I friction
>> shift.
>>
>>
>> Bonus, I also found a NOS suntour rear Derailleur in the basement but
>> think I will keep the Deore as well as it was not expensive at REI.
>>
>>
>> Please help
>>
>>
>> I am near Springfield MA if anyone knows of a good bike shop in the
>> Hartford, Springfield, Nothampton area.
>>
>>
>> I am cross posting to iBob as well.
>>
>>
>> Joel
>>
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Re: [RBW] I really need some help, I do not maintain my bikes myself and my old guy is no longer working. Bleriot Content

2020-06-10 Thread hugh flynn 
Hey Joel!

I would give Parker at Laughing Dog in Amherst a call. He'll be able to
help diagnose the problem.

Hugh

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 4:46 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> Bleriot Tune Up
>
>
> I had the Bleriot that had not been ridden in 10 years except for 3 rides
> last week to the bike shop, a local shop, all kids, never used this shop
> before. I was told when I brought it in the rear derailleur was bent, but I
> asked them to check the hanger as advised by Rivendell.
>
>
> The bike had been having a rough not smooth feeling when pedaling in many
> gears, almost all. I thought the rear wheel was out of true, etc.
>
>
> So I pick the bike up today and I was told it is great, rear Derailleur
> and hanger are fine. So I take it for a ride and the same rough feeling
> after shifting. They took one link out of the chain and said that it was
> too loose but nothing really changed.
>
> When I came back and talked to them I had a few things to ask them
>
>
>1. The rear brake was rubbing on the rim, I was told it was because of
>my rack and the rack had to come off, when I got home I loosened the quick
>release on the wheel and moved the rim over and it is fine now as far as
>the brake is not rubbing. I was very surprised this your kid who was not
>low level, not a wrench but he should have known.
>
>
> 2. For the rough pedaling feeling I was told the following and I will put
> in quotes as best as I can remember. Now I have a TA Zephyr crank, they
> said I need a whole new drive train, I told them there was no way I was not
> going to use the TA, and that I need a  new FW (I have 2 at home
> that look as new or as close as possible), and I need a new chain (this one
> I buy more than the first two)
>
>
> So here is what I was told.  “the chain needs to be replaced and the
> cassette (he did not know it was a FW) needs replacing and the crank needs
> to be replaced as it is worn”. “We know this because of this little tool we
> have that measure then chain” Maybe it is but the bike was used for 2 or so
> years, and it was not my main bike as my Custom was before the car accident
> the sidelined riding for me. It sat for 10 years with a bit of use on
> rollers with a fork mount, very little use due to my back and knees. So I
> raided my parts bin when I got home.
>
>
> I found my TA BB tool (not sure if they will need that (not this shop but
> another that I will now have to hunt for but I can do that).
>
>
> Here are all of the parts I found
>
>
> 2 13x26 FW’s in almost if not new condition.
>
>
> I use  the TA crank w/ 48/38/24
>
>
> Now I did find one new TA 38 in the basement, all the rest are no brand
>
>
> If anyone has any TA 110 front rings please let me know
>
>
> I found d 38, 36, 28, 26, 24
>
>
> I did not find a 48.
>
>
> OK I need advise on what your thought are. I really want the bike to ride
> smooth again when pedaling, I was told if I had them put a new chain on “it
> would make everything worse”.
>
>
> Also they thought the Deore rear I brought  would not work as it is a 9
> speed, I had to explain to this nice kid it did not matter as I friction
> shift.
>
>
> Bonus, I also found a NOS suntour rear Derailleur in the basement but
> think I will keep the Deore as well as it was not expensive at REI.
>
>
> Please help
>
>
> I am near Springfield MA if anyone knows of a good bike shop in the
> Hartford, Springfield, Nothampton area.
>
>
> I am cross posting to iBob as well.
>
>
> Joel
>
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2020-06-10 Thread Joel Stern 
Yup, I think you are 100% correct Joe, I will address this as soon as I
find a shop I trust.

Thanks

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 5:01 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> I think you'll be good with the new FW, 8-speed chain and chainrings. It
> sounds like your old chain stretched, then ground away on your old cogs and
> rings.
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2020-06-10 Thread Joe Bernard 
I think you'll be good with the new FW, 8-speed chain and chainrings. It sounds 
like your old chain stretched, then ground away on your old cogs and rings. 

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2020-06-10 Thread Joel Stern 


Bleriot Tune Up


I had the Bleriot that had not been ridden in 10 years except for 3 rides 
last week to the bike shop, a local shop, all kids, never used this shop 
before. I was told when I brought it in the rear derailleur was bent, but I 
asked them to check the hanger as advised by Rivendell.  


The bike had been having a rough not smooth feeling when pedaling in many 
gears, almost all. I thought the rear wheel was out of true, etc.


So I pick the bike up today and I was told it is great, rear Derailleur and 
hanger are fine. So I take it for a ride and the same rough feeling after 
shifting. They took one link out of the chain and said that it was too 
loose but nothing really changed.

When I came back and talked to them I had a few things to ask them


   1. The rear brake was rubbing on the rim, I was told it was because of 
   my rack and the rack had to come off, when I got home I loosened the quick 
   release on the wheel and moved the rim over and it is fine now as far as 
   the brake is not rubbing. I was very surprised this your kid who was not 
   low level, not a wrench but he should have known.


2. For the rough pedaling feeling I was told the following and I will put 
in quotes as best as I can remember. Now I have a TA Zephyr crank, they 
said I need a whole new drive train, I told them there was no way I was not 
going to use the TA, and that I need a  new FW (I have 2 at home 
that look as new or as close as possible), and I need a new chain (this one 
I buy more than the first two)


So here is what I was told.  “the chain needs to be replaced and the 
cassette (he did not know it was a FW) needs replacing and the crank needs 
to be replaced as it is worn”. “We know this because of this little tool we 
have that measure then chain” Maybe it is but the bike was used for 2 or so 
years, and it was not my main bike as my Custom was before the car accident 
the sidelined riding for me. It sat for 10 years with a bit of use on 
rollers with a fork mount, very little use due to my back and knees. So I 
raided my parts bin when I got home.


I found my TA BB tool (not sure if they will need that (not this shop but 
another that I will now have to hunt for but I can do that). 


Here are all of the parts I found


2 13x26 FW’s in almost if not new condition.


I use  the TA crank w/ 48/38/24


Now I did find one new TA 38 in the basement, all the rest are no brand


If anyone has any TA 110 front rings please let me know


I found d 38, 36, 28, 26, 24


I did not find a 48.


OK I need advise on what your thought are. I really want the bike to ride 
smooth again when pedaling, I was told if I had them put a new chain on “it 
would make everything worse”. 


Also they thought the Deore rear I brought  would not work as it is a 9 
speed, I had to explain to this nice kid it did not matter as I friction 
shift.


Bonus, I also found a NOS suntour rear Derailleur in the basement but think 
I will keep the Deore as well as it was not expensive at REI.   


Please help


I am near Springfield MA if anyone knows of a good bike shop in the 
Hartford, Springfield, Nothampton area.


I am cross posting to iBob as well.


Joel

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