Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-17 Thread Ash A
@John: I haven't tried them before. The design looked good and priced looked more reasonable than Pauls. Hence decided to give it a try. Will report back after I build the bike. On Sunday, 15 January 2017 08:44:02 UTC-8, John Bokman wrote: > > Curious if you've tried the VO Zeste Cantis on

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-15 Thread John Bokman
Curious if you've tried the VO Zeste Cantis on another bike? They look like well designed brakes. On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 9:03:13 PM UTC-8, Ash A wrote: > > Wish I had known about these before I got VO Zeste Cantis for the > Appaloosa I'm going to build soon. Given the tire clearance

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-15 Thread BenG
I like cantis. They look interesting, and it's fun using something that I can see operate. XT cantis on my MB-1 perform fine on steep and fast descents at Brown County State Park here in Indiana. Putting a Fred Flintstone foot down could suffice for all my other rides, in comparison. -- You

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-14 Thread Ashwath Akirekadu
Wish I had known about these before I got VO Zeste Cantis for the Appaloosa I'm going to build soon. Given the tire clearance (I had to see A picture of it mounted on an MTB to fully get the idea) and fraction of the price, they were worth trying even if it meant giving them away later for

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-12 Thread George Schick
If I'm not mistaken, those are Tektro 857AL brakes. They have the extra long 110mm arms for fender clearance. I bought one a few years ago for my Surly 1x1 that has wheels with 60mm Big Apple tires covered by SKS P65 MTB fenders. They just clear the fenders with a couple of mm's to spare.

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-12 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hi, can't find a model # on them. For a little while Riv sold a V-brake, but I don't see them on the website currently. I would think if you call Rivendell and ask what model was used on the first gen Clem completes somebody will know. On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 4:18:07 PM UTC-5, Ash A

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-12 Thread Ash A
Hi Mark, Those V-brakes look quite good! Any idea what Tektro model is it? Thanks, -Ash On Wednesday, 11 January 2017 18:36:04 UTC-8, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > I think this came up not long ago on the iBoB list. Not all V brakes are > created equally when it comes to clearance. I found a

[RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-12 Thread Roy Drinkwater
Not really pertinent to the question, but did anyone read the title with a Rodney Dangerfield accent? Just asking... Roy H. Drinkwater Lititz, PA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-12 Thread Jock Dewey
Wow! There are similar squabblings taking place right now vis-a-vis cranksets on the BOB list. I've collected a stash of NOS Suntour XC pro cantis over the years as they are, to my eye, just delightfully elegant and simple. Those gleaming pointy-hat fixing bolts just make me smile. But I

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-11 Thread Ron Mc
those are very long - make sense Grand would spec them. My daughter's cookie-cutter upright has stock Tektro v-brakes with 11cm arms - it clears 50mm SKS fenders with 42mm Soma SV by more than a cm. On Wednesday, January 11, 2017 at 8:36:04 PM UTC-6, Mark in Beacon wrote: > > I think this

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-11 Thread John Bokman
I have the Tektro 720 on my 2009 Sam, and have been impressed with their power and good enough modulation. Inexpensive, too. But I do get significant brake shudder. I was surprised to read that Jan says the 720s are too flexible to function optimally. I haven't noticed this. Logic would tell

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-11 Thread Brewster Fong
On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 at 4:13:58 PM UTC-8, Eric Daume wrote: > > I'll say, V brakes are the ones that don't seem to get any respect. Cantis > still have some cool factor from the 'cross crowd, but V brake seem mostly > relegated to cheap hybrids. But if you look at power, cost, weight,

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-11 Thread Ryan Fleming
Ovaltine? Not in my world On Wednesday, January 11, 2017 at 5:30:43 AM UTC-6, Peter White wrote: > > Yup. V brakes have mercifully gone the way of primogeniture, human > sacrifice, hair shirts and Ovaltine. Now if we could only do away with > tattoos and calling anything and everything not

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-11 Thread Philip Kim
fan of the paul motolites. super nice. also a fan of paul minimotos for easier set up than cantis, but less tire clearance On Tuesday, January 10, 2017 at 7:13:58 PM UTC-5, Eric Daume wrote: > > I'll say, V brakes are the ones that don't seem to get any respect. Cantis > still have some cool

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-11 Thread Patrick Moore
I've had no problems with V brake modulation. IME, they don't modulate as well as a top quality pair of sidepulls, or those IRD cantis set up by Rivendell, but the difference is largely academic. It never affected my riding. On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Steve Palincsar

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-11 Thread Patrick Moore
The best brakes I ever used, bar none, were IRD cantis on my erstwhile Sam Hill. Key point: they were set up by Rivendell staff. For fat tire rim brakes, I personally usually prefer V brakes, but largely because they are much easier for me to set up. I myself have rather different experiences

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-11 Thread Michael Hechmer
Steve, I agree with you about Jan's riding, vs my riding. He is a more powerful rider and rides more aggressively than I. No doubt he pushes brakes to the limit, in a way that I rarely do just the occasional escape the pick-up that just right hooked me; and then I don't care about

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-11 Thread Eric Daume
Different experiences, Steve. I've used V brakes since the Shimano introduced them in '96, and I have zero complaints for their modulation. I will admit they can make fenders over big tires challenging. On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:14 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-11 Thread Peter White
Yup. V brakes have mercifully gone the way of primogeniture, human sacrifice, hair shirts and Ovaltine. Now if we could only do away with tattoos and calling anything and everything not objectionable "AWESOME!", we'd be on the highway to paradise. PJW On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:14 PM, Steve

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/10/2017 07:13 PM, Eric Daume wrote: I'll say, V brakes are the ones that don't seem to get any respect. Cantis still have some cool factor from the 'cross crowd, but V brake seem mostly relegated to cheap hybrids. But if you look at power, cost, weight, modulation, and set up ease, I

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-10 Thread Eric Daume
I'll say, V brakes are the ones that don't seem to get any respect. Cantis still have some cool factor from the 'cross crowd, but V brake seem mostly relegated to cheap hybrids. But if you look at power, cost, weight, modulation, and set up ease, I think V's would at least get a podium finish in

Re: [RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/10/2017 05:06 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote: Probably like a lot of us, I got an email announcing a Jan Hein blog comparing rim & disk brakes. Now, I have almost no experience with disk brakes but much of what I read makes me think they could be a good choice for some bikes. I found

[RBW] My Cantis cant get no respect.

2017-01-10 Thread Michael Hechmer
Probably like a lot of us, I got an email announcing a Jan Hein blog comparing rim & disk brakes. Now, I have almost no experience with disk brakes but much of what I read makes me think they could be a good choice for some bikes. I found myself saying, not my experience, when he compared