[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-18 Thread EricP
Guess I see the undertube as marketing in this case. Not to keep the bike different than a MCFB but to do something different than Surly, Salsa, or Raleigh. Personally, I see this bike competing more with the Pacer, Casseroll or Port Townsend than a typical off the shelf racing bike. And maybe

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-18 Thread newenglandbike
It'll be a good looking, cool bike either way. But, I think if the San Marcos is going to have a double TT, they should just go ahead and add rack mounts and double eyelets front and rear. -Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-18 Thread Ray Shine
Matt has a good point. And, rack mounts would serve a greater purpose than the 2TT. From: newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 5:12 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: AMOS update It'll

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-18 Thread Mike
Yeah, I tend to agree. I don't mind the double TT but if you're gonna overbuild it why not just make it more rack/load friendly? It doesn't need to be as sturdy as a Saga but maybe in-between that and their ES sport road bike. On Apr 18, 5:12 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote:

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-18 Thread Mike
On Apr 18, 7:24 am, bfd bfd...@gmail.com wrote: This is too easy, we all know that the guys looking at $6K carbon bikes are never going to go for rack mounts:) Good Luck! Dude, I doubt people looking at $6k carbon bikes are the target audience for this bike anyway. This bike with it's

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-18 Thread Shaun Meehan
I guess I don't really take Grant's comment that this is the kind of bike guys who buy $6,000 carbon frames should've gotten as an assertion that RBW is marketing the bike to that guy. I take it more as a commentary on the fact that many of the guys who buy those bikes would be much better off

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-18 Thread Ray Foss
not to beat a dead horse... but the double top tube road bike is just plain marketing schtick, nothing else. I just got back from a 2 week bike tour in the Yucatan and took many pictures of bikes owned by economically poor locals. Nearly every bike had double top tubes. Ray Lisbon, CT --

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread William
Eric I shared your reaction to the 2TT on the San Marcos. A second top tube sounds very much unnecessary and out of place on a 59cm road bike that is sturdy enough for fenders but not racks. I'll keep saving for a Roadeo or a custom (or the next thing I can't live without). On Apr 17, 7:13 am,

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread bfd
On Apr 17, 8:01 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: Me, too.  The second top tube is a deal killer.  Sorry to be grousy but it's a dumb idea except maybe for cargo bikes. Agree. I can see 650b for smaller size, but the 700c bikes getting a second top tube is too much! I don't get

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread newenglandbike
I guess there is no accounting for taste, because I have always dug the second top-tube (I prefer the name 'innertube' to 'undertube', but i digress) ever since the bombadil came out, although I agree it probably works better on a mountain/all-purpose bike. I was also drawn to the plain-gauge

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread bfd
On Apr 17, 9:09 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: I guess there is no accounting for taste, because I have always dug the second top-tube (I prefer the name 'innertube' to 'undertube', but i digress) ever since the bombadil came out, although I agree it probably works better

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Ron MH
It's basically a roady frame, not a country bike, not a touring bike, just a really nice and versatile road frame kind of the way the Rambouillet was, and the Roadeo would be if it were a hair heavier and had rack mounts. A ROAD bike with clearance for tires up to 33mm with fenders, or 35mm

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread cyclotourist
Nailed it. On 4/17/11, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: bfd I think you are taking your point a little far. Grant/Rivendell is not marketing the San Marcos at all, much less marketing it towards the mainstream racing bike customer. Merry Sales and Soma aren't even 'marketing' the San

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Jeremy Till
I'd ride one. I wonder if a 59 or a 63 would fit me better. Unfortunately, probably not in the cards for me financially anytime soon. Although maybe i can do a frame on layaway. On Apr 17, 7:13 am, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't seen any mention of the Soma/Amos update on

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread rob markwardt
The double top tube is becoming a rivendell signature. I prefer the cream head tube. On Apr 17, 11:10 am, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Nailed it. On 4/17/11, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: bfd I think you are taking your point a little far.  Grant/Rivendell is

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 11:40 -0700, rob markwardt wrote: The double top tube is becoming a rivendell signature. I prefer the cream head tube. +1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Philip Williamson
I was disappointed by the undertube as well, especially on a bike identified as road-only. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Apr 17, 10:47 am, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: It's basically a roady frame, not a country bike, not a touring bike, just a really nice and versatile

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Bruce
OTOH, I love the look of the diagatube and would ride it on a road bike any day. From: Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread cyclotourist
: OTOH, I love the look of the diagatube and would ride it on a road bike any day. From: Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update I

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Michael_S
, 2011 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update I was disappointed by the undertube as well, especially on a bike identified as road-only. Philip -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw

[RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread Bill
What no one is talking about yet is how it will be built out, component-wise. Sure, some will go the full-Riv route - Nitto noodles, bar-end shifters, Sugino triple, B17 saddle, etc., at least those who read this list and buy it frame-only from Riv if it's sold that way. I can see many shops who

Re: [RBW] Re: AMOS update

2011-04-17 Thread CycloFiend
on 4/17/11 11:25 AM, Jeremy Till at jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: I'd ride one. I wonder if a 59 or a 63 would fit me better. Yeah, I'm actually a bit curious as to how the specific sizing on this bicycle will turn out. I've ridden one, and it was a pretty spritely little beast.