What is meant by wheel efficiency in this Context?
dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
What about the 700c wheel efficiency Vs. the 26wheel once they're
rolling?
This is an interesting question. Before getting her mini-Lantis, my
wife
rode a 700c wheeled bike. Coasting downhill, she always
In the 26 v 29 debate as I understand it there are two primary areas of
contention:
1) angle of attack. 26 is smaller, thus has a steeper angle to overcome
when hitting a rock or stump. My personal experience is that on the trail I
notice it is really easy to roll over things with 29ers v. what
What about the 700c wheel efficiency Vs. the 26wheel once they're
rolling?
This is an interesting question. Before getting her mini-Lantis, my wife
rode a 700c wheeled bike. Coasting downhill, she always drifted behind me
on my 700c Atlantis. Her bike would only take 28 mm tires vs the
I feel your pain.
My existance right now consists of obsessing about whether to buy a Troll
frameset or simply transfer my new components over to the old 820.
Sometimes I even throw getting an Ogre frameset into the mix, which would
let me use my Rich Lesnik built 700c wheels. It's usually
Chris,
Yeah it's a pain I have to live with. I'll survive.
List member Mike Shiller posted a WTB release note about the Nano heck it
may have been on this same topic? It gets all jumbled together :-) But the
Nano looks interesting and a tire of serious contention, it's relativity
light weight,
I've asked this before, but how wide tires does a 26 Atlantis take? I'm
skeptical mine would take anything wider than 2.1.
People do the Divide on touring bikes. It works. But if you read the
journals of people on touring bikes, you see them taking paved detours a
lot.
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at
Hugh,
Medicine dance is working.
Awesome job.
Tom
On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:13:28 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
Tony,
Don't be jealous, were in major a drought I can't remember the last time
we had rain?? And the high pressure pushing the jet stream North and East
has created an
I've read numerous accounts that suggest 700c wheels rollover things
better than 26 wheels...
True but in reality not a huge difference. A BQ article on tires contained
a graphic comparing the angle of a 700 wheel vs a 26 against a block maybe
4 tall (?). The difference in the angle was
If you decide to try the Nano's I'll be interested in your experience. I
plan to buy at least one set of knobby tires and they are high on my list.
Surly markets the Ogre and the Troll as touring bikes but they are
literally just a Karate Monkey (29'er MTB) and a 1 x 1 (26 MTB) with all
the
Tom,
I wish now my medicine hadn't worked on this particular weekend, but it's
an inexact science ;-\
~Hugh
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:34:44 AM UTC-8, Tom Virgil wrote:
Hugh,
Medicine dance is working.
Awesome job.
Tom
On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:13:28 PM UTC-8, hsmitham
Doug,
What about the 700c wheel efficiency Vs. the 26wheel once they're rolling?
It's been my understanding one of the reasons many tour bikes are using 26
size wheels is they are easier to get a heavy mass rolling? Seems like that
would be true. So as I see it there's always a compromise in
Anne,
You asked how big a tire the 26 Atlantis takes. My early model Atlantis
has 70mm of clearance at the narrowest spot (the chainstays). I would think
that would mean you could run 60mm tires or about 2.25. However note that
many tires are quite a bit smaller than they advertise, for
IIRC, Bike Quarterly suggested that there is a sweet spot for wheel
diameter/circumference. Basically 622X28mm (686 diameter), 584X42mm (676
diameter), 559X55mm (677 diameter) all were pretty close to it. So the
fatter the tire, the smaller the wheel.
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy
For the longest time, a photo of an Atlantis on Peter White's website that
is described as being outfitted with his best parts was my favorite
Atlantis photo. Now it's this one. I've become hooked on the 26
wheel/fat-tire combo. Nothing else looks or feels as good to me now and
the
Chris,
I too have been lusting after fat tire Atlantis...I don't see that many.
Here's one I like a lot.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/4815790104/in/pool-rivendellatlantis/
and another
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fireman483/8541167230/in/pool-rivendellatlantis
But I am curious
Keep in mind that I'm not a mountain biker and other than riding gravel
roads way back when, all my riding is on pavement.
I can't say how much is the fat tires themselves. The difference between
my 40mm and my 55mm tires is far larger than the numbers would suggest. I
think it's that old
Chris,
Interesting, the 26 Atlantis I'm building up as a off road beasty for
rough stuff bike camping...I'm still debating what knobby tires I'll run? I
currently have some Big Ben's for it but not sure they're the road tires
I'll want. Lots of folks swear by the Schwalbe supreme's.
Anyway, one
Tony,
Have you seen the new 700c Atlantis build kit on rivbike.com? It's listed in
the New Stuff link on their site.
Comes with 700 x 50mm tires now. Far out.
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Thanks for the blog shots, Tony.
The Mall looks like a great place to learn to ride in the snow. Flat, open,
safe!
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That is a great looking build kit for a 700c Atlantis/Hunq... I'm
definitely enjoying the fat tires. I'm not 100% sure of the legalities of
cycling on the Mall but it was a pretty sparse day for pedestrians and I
felt like it was safe. Great backdrop for pictures!
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I hope its not illegal. It is fun to ride there. I did it last spring with
my wife among hundreds of other cyclists. Bikes laying all over the place,
and owners basking in the sun. Noone was getting run off the property by
the cops. I didn't see any signs. Let us know if you find out for
Nice pics! I see people all the time too, I've also heard of cyclists
getting hassled by the Park Police, but I take my chances!
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
I hope its not illegal. It is fun to ride there. I did it last spring with
my wife among
Knobbies in the snow are a beautiful thing!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, January 26, 2014 10:21:26 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/01/national-mall-snow-ride.html
Certainly not a definitive 'test', but each time I'm out w/ these 2.1
tires I'm loving them
http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/01/national-mall-snow-ride.html
Certainly not a definitive 'test', but each time I'm out w/ these 2.1
tires I'm loving them more. The National Mall has a crushed stone walkway
going down either side of it and my wife and I took a very leisurely and
relatively
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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!
On 01/21/2014 03:26 PM, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
Wood fenders would probably work, I'm guessing
tony:
I've never taken photos but it's pretty easy. I just make a template from
cardboard since it usually takes me a couple of shots to get it right.
Then I cut the HDPE with a box cutter (this stuff is tough, use a new
blade). When I've gotten it properly fit, then drill holes where the
Tony,
Don't know why but I think fat tires on an Atlantis just looks right. And
those Kenda's look great. Here's a
DIYhttp://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/2014/01/17/studded-nate-grip-studs/for
studded tires...since it doesn't snow in LA really no reason for
studs...on the matter of snow and
Hugh,
I'm with you, I haven't ridden that much since the new tires are on but I
love the look of the bike... rough and ready... I did take it out in the
snow tonight for my shift at the bike co-op. Really short ride but on my
way home I strayed into a small park with plenty of snow on grass
Tony,
Don't be jealous, were in major a drought I can't remember the last time we
had rain?? And the high pressure pushing the jet stream North and East has
created an inversion layer which traps nitrogen oxide and carbon
particulates close to the ground making breathing a bummer. Yeah it's nice
It's hard to tell, but is there any room for fenders? On second thought,
you might not want them if you're riding in the snow. I rode out past
Leesburg on Sunday and there was plenty of snow on the trail. It eventually
filled up the space between wheel/fender on the Ram until I had to stop and
PS - the bike looks GREAT with those fatties
On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:11:56 AM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
Yet another snow day in the DC area... I think the schools will be in
session till July 4th at this rate! Supposedly we're in for our biggest
snowfall since 2011 but I'll
Thanks Howard! I'm going to take a harder look at the fenders this evening
if it's not to cold in the garage. It was simpler to just remove them last
night vice messing with the height. It'll be very tight to get the set of
SKS ones I have in there and to your point I'm not sure it makes sense
Tony:
If fenders can't be done, I've used 1/16 thick HDPE (an industrial
plastic) zip tied to the underside of racks as a sort of faux fender. On
the rear, it prevents the wet stripe up the back. It may work for your
front situation just to protect the light and keep some water off the
I never knew Atlantii had those swirly curves on their chainstays until I
saw your Atlantis last month. I can see the curves in the pic. Very cool.
What about wooden fenders? They are flat, so they would cover everything
and you wouldn't have to worry about if the sides will fit between
Doug,
Great suggestion about the HPDE, I am not sure that tires this size will be
a long term solution for my Atlantis but if it ends up being a regular
occurance I'll look into this stuff. I think I've seen something similar on
some of the fat-bike blogs actually. Do you have any pictures of
On 01/21/2014 03:26 PM, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
Wood fenders would probably work, I'm guessing they are a bit thicker
than plastic/metal but not wrapping around the edges would keep the
sizing pretty easy.
Also cuts back on their effectiveness, I think.
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