Re: [RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-02-01 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks for that comparo; it's useful. I've used the Packer series (Plus and Sports, or big and small), and the Back-Rollers, not to mention a couple dozen other types, and for volume and easy on-and-off and flexible capacity, any of the larger Ortliebs are great. The extendable collars with

[RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-02-01 Thread Joe Bernard
My Front Roller Classics - which may be a newer design than the Bike Packer you're using - has a clip near the front/bottom that a carry strap slips into for riding. You plug it into the buckles on either side of the roll-top, get the top rolled down, then the strap pulls down to the clip to

[RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-02-01 Thread Pat Smith
I have had a pair of "Bike-Packer Plus" bags for some time now, not quite the same as the "Sport-Packer Classics" you mentioned, but they are the same design, just larger (meant for rear instead of front) and with a little better material. So I like a couple things about the Ortlieb Bike

Re: [RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-01-30 Thread Patrick Moore
Perhaps one day Rivendell will make a bigger brother (or sister) to the Backabikes; I'll bite then. On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 11:50 AM Patrick Moore wrote: > Thanks, Joe; saw both pairs. I like the crisp new look of the Bikeabags > and what seems to be the much stiffer canvas, so I'll hold off

Re: [RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-01-30 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Joe; saw both pairs. I like the crisp new look of the Bikeabags and what seems to be the much stiffer canvas, so I'll hold off for now. On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 1:13 AM Joe Bernard wrote: > You might want to take a look at a recent FS post here that lists Baggins, > Tubus, etc. He

[RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-01-30 Thread Tom Wyland
My two cents: I haven't used the Backabike, but I commuted for many years with a Sackville large saddlebag and no-name canvas panniers with drawstring and plastic buckle closure (similar to Carridice Super C). I'm currently commuting with a set of new Ortlieb High Visibility Roll-tops

Re: [RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-01-30 Thread Joe Bernard
You might want to take a look at a recent FS post here that lists Baggins, Tubus, etc. He forgot to list them with a price, but his photo link shows Sackville rear bags I've never seen before. They look big and someone attached modern plastic sliders on the back. Or contact me! I have a way

Re: [RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-01-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, I will check those out. Now that I look closely, I actually owned a pair of these some years ago and found them insufficient for some reason; not in volume, certainly, but I think because they sagged under weight despite the bottom supporting straps. With the Ortliebs and similar

Re: [RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-01-29 Thread Joe Bernard
I mean sure, we can have a thread about processed vs. non-processed food and if you can carry 90 lbs. of it, but that's not really what you asked. So getting back to your question, I have an addendum: Upon further reflection I think the Backabikes are a bitter wider and fit a bit more than

[RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-01-29 Thread tc
I love the *Banjo Brothers Market Panniers*. 1500 cu in., very well made, easy on and off, covered with flap, $50/bag. I use these on the back of my Atlantis, which has the Nitto Big Back Rack (33R). Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-01-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Volume is necessary when you carry a couple of 5 lb bags of flour plus various bags of bulkier veg like potatoes and onions, plus big vats of yogurt and a couple of cheeses and a 12-pack, plus delicate veg like avocados and tomatoes! I don't buy a great deal of processed foods myself, but I'm not

Re: [RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-01-29 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Joe. I wish the BackaBike's were 25% larger, then they'd be perfect. On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 4:40 PM Joe Bernard wrote: > I've owned a large (several, actually) Saddlesack, one Backabike with the > leather straps/brass buckles, and currently have a set of Front Roller > Classics which I

[RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-01-29 Thread 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch
My own take is that the combo of the bad-a-bike panniers with the latest large saddlebag (whatever it's called) and/or strapping things on the rear rack or atop the saddlebag is able to carry 90+ lbs of non-processed whole food (less produce, more bulk of eggs, dairy, grains, etc.). Volume is

Re: [RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-01-29 Thread Joe Bernard
Ack, I missed a naming opportunity. Backabikes become StayOntheBackaBikes! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-01-29 Thread Joe Bernard
I've owned a large (several, actually) Saddlesack, one Backabike with the leather straps/brass buckles, and currently have a set of Front Roller Classics which I think are older-name Sport Packers. My completely subjective impressions: Large Saddlebag holds a ton, assuming you have enough

Re: [RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-01-29 Thread Patrick Moore
+ 1 for others' comments about the attachment systems pro's and con's. I'm able to wheel my bike thru the stores, so quick on/off isn't as important, but I do know the annoyance of having frequently to install and remove Carradice and Rivendell saddlebags. 'Nother question, related: Can anyone

[RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-01-29 Thread Elisabeth Sherwood
While I love the simple look and the fabric of the Backabikes, it seems that, with the leather buckle closures, they are meant to be left on one's bike. For me, they just wouldn't be useful for things like groceries, unfortunately! (And here in the city I just wouldn't leave bags on

[RBW] Re: Backabike bags versus Ortlieb Sports Packer Classics: practical capacity and ease of closure

2020-01-29 Thread Patrick Moore
'Nother question: Does anyone know of a bag as simply constructed as the Backabike, and well if not as well made, that is bigger? A Backabike at about 1,000 ci each would be very nice. On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 1:16 PM Patrick Moore wrote: > Has anyone used both, and can that person tell me