[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[Doug H.]

I'm glad it worked for you! Mine is still holding. I did a 10 mile mile 
ride today with lots of hills and shifting and no slippage. The Silver2 
shifter is nice is operation and in looks. Friction shifting is now my go 
to after years of indexing and saying I had no interest in friction 
shifting. Being open minded is a good thing!
Doug

On Saturday, June 11, 2022 at 12:48:58 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:

> Quick follow up: Thanks Doug for your detailed help. I used the Loctite 
> last weekend per your directions, have ridden about 150 miles since then, 
> and it has been remarkably stable. No slipping at all so far. Will be 
> interesting to see how durable it will be, but for now it’s great. 
>
> Thanks again!
>
> On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:31:28 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I put a generous amount on the threads of the shifter bolt (I fully 
>> removed the bolt), the one with the d-ring head. I put the bike in my stand 
>> and adjusted the shifter to the desired tightness and let it sit for a day 
>> to dry. I think the tightness is a personal preference once there is enough 
>> tension to hold the cable in place. Tighter make the shifter harder to move 
>> so for me just tight enough to hold the cable is enough. I do wonder if the 
>> Loctite will be rendered useless if I re-adjust the tension. Anyone have 
>> experience to share?
>> Doug
>>
>> On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:03:03 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Doug. Great to hear! 
>>>
>>> Forgive me for asking what might be obvious: where exactly did you apply 
>>> the Loctite? And how did you gauge the degree of tightness when you screwed 
>>> the shifter back together? 
>>>
>>> Thanks again. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 8:11:58 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 Hello all,
 I pulled the shifter bolt and applied blue Loctite thread-locker, 
 reinstalled, and let it dry for a day. I've ridden three times since then 
 and haven't experienced any slippage. With this fix the Silver2 shifter is 
 great! Friction shifting is working well for me. 
 Doug

 On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I now have several hundred miles on my Clem Smith Jr so wanted to 
> share some thoughts. I feel like I'm cruising around when I ride so I 
> call 
> it my Clem Cruiser, or CeeCee for short. I've never named a bike but 
> CeeCee 
> may work. Is it fast or slow? Those aren't the right questions to ponder. 
> Am I faster or slower on the Clem as compared to other bikes I've ridden? 
> It doesn't feel like it and I don't care! I'm amazed at how it tracks up 
> hills with ease. I sit upright and enjoy the scenery which gives me a 
> greater degree of feeling safe as well.  I'm really happy with how the 
> Clem 
> rides on asphalt, dirt or gravel.
>
> I recently had Rich build a dynamo wheel for me as I had never used 
> dynamo but wanted to give it a shot. I'm hooked. I don't feel any drag 
> from 
> the hub and not having to worry about recharging lights frees my mind for 
> other thoughts. The wheel is a Velocity Cliffhanger 32 spokes with a 
> Kasai 
> hub. My rear wheel is still the stock Alex 36 spoke with an unbranded 
> hub. 
> The mismatched wheels are kinda cool and Clem-like I think. 
>
> My pedals are One Up aluminum platform pedals that are large and 
> grippy. They are perfect for the Clem and my big ole feet. I rode today 
> wearing my Merrell sandals and the pedals gave plenty of support and 
> grip. 
> Speaking of grip, I really like the Ergon Biokork grips.  
>
> I wrapped Newbaum cloth tape on my chainstay  as a protector even 
> though it already had a clear one...I like the looks of it. I've put two 
> stickers on it and ordered a couple from Path Less Pedaled to sticker it 
> up 
> a little more. This is a fun bike to ride and tinker with for sure.
>
> I'm digging friction shifting but I have gotten slippage from the 
> Silver2 shifter. The bolt comes loose and my gears slip at times. I guess 
> I 
> need to find just the right tension but it is a little frustrating. 
> Should 
> I use thread-locker? Anyone else had this issue?
>
> All in all the Clem is a well-designed bicycle that rides so nice on 
> any surface. Just Ride.
>
> Here is a link to some photos if you are interested Clem Cruiser 
> 
>
> Doug
> Athens, GA
>


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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[J J]

Quick follow up: Thanks Doug for your detailed help. I used the Loctite 
last weekend per your directions, have ridden about 150 miles since then, 
and it has been remarkably stable. No slipping at all so far. Will be 
interesting to see how durable it will be, but for now it’s great. 

Thanks again!

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:31:28 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I put a generous amount on the threads of the shifter bolt (I fully 
> removed the bolt), the one with the d-ring head. I put the bike in my stand 
> and adjusted the shifter to the desired tightness and let it sit for a day 
> to dry. I think the tightness is a personal preference once there is enough 
> tension to hold the cable in place. Tighter make the shifter harder to move 
> so for me just tight enough to hold the cable is enough. I do wonder if the 
> Loctite will be rendered useless if I re-adjust the tension. Anyone have 
> experience to share?
> Doug
>
> On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:03:03 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Doug. Great to hear! 
>>
>> Forgive me for asking what might be obvious: where exactly did you apply 
>> the Loctite? And how did you gauge the degree of tightness when you screwed 
>> the shifter back together? 
>>
>> Thanks again. 
>>
>> On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 8:11:58 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> I pulled the shifter bolt and applied blue Loctite thread-locker, 
>>> reinstalled, and let it dry for a day. I've ridden three times since then 
>>> and haven't experienced any slippage. With this fix the Silver2 shifter is 
>>> great! Friction shifting is working well for me. 
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 I now have several hundred miles on my Clem Smith Jr so wanted to share 
 some thoughts. I feel like I'm cruising around when I ride so I call it my 
 Clem Cruiser, or CeeCee for short. I've never named a bike but CeeCee may 
 work. Is it fast or slow? Those aren't the right questions to ponder. Am I 
 faster or slower on the Clem as compared to other bikes I've ridden? It 
 doesn't feel like it and I don't care! I'm amazed at how it tracks up 
 hills 
 with ease. I sit upright and enjoy the scenery which gives me a greater 
 degree of feeling safe as well.  I'm really happy with how the Clem rides 
 on asphalt, dirt or gravel.

 I recently had Rich build a dynamo wheel for me as I had never used 
 dynamo but wanted to give it a shot. I'm hooked. I don't feel any drag 
 from 
 the hub and not having to worry about recharging lights frees my mind for 
 other thoughts. The wheel is a Velocity Cliffhanger 32 spokes with a Kasai 
 hub. My rear wheel is still the stock Alex 36 spoke with an unbranded hub. 
 The mismatched wheels are kinda cool and Clem-like I think. 

 My pedals are One Up aluminum platform pedals that are large and 
 grippy. They are perfect for the Clem and my big ole feet. I rode today 
 wearing my Merrell sandals and the pedals gave plenty of support and grip. 
 Speaking of grip, I really like the Ergon Biokork grips.  

 I wrapped Newbaum cloth tape on my chainstay  as a protector even 
 though it already had a clear one...I like the looks of it. I've put two 
 stickers on it and ordered a couple from Path Less Pedaled to sticker it 
 up 
 a little more. This is a fun bike to ride and tinker with for sure.

 I'm digging friction shifting but I have gotten slippage from the 
 Silver2 shifter. The bolt comes loose and my gears slip at times. I guess 
 I 
 need to find just the right tension but it is a little frustrating. Should 
 I use thread-locker? Anyone else had this issue?

 All in all the Clem is a well-designed bicycle that rides so nice on 
 any surface. Just Ride.

 Here is a link to some photos if you are interested Clem Cruiser 
 

 Doug
 Athens, GA

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[Doug H.]

I put a generous amount on the threads of the shifter bolt (I fully removed 
the bolt), the one with the d-ring head. I put the bike in my stand and 
adjusted the shifter to the desired tightness and let it sit for a day to 
dry. I think the tightness is a personal preference once there is enough 
tension to hold the cable in place. Tighter make the shifter harder to move 
so for me just tight enough to hold the cable is enough. I do wonder if the 
Loctite will be rendered useless if I re-adjust the tension. Anyone have 
experience to share?
Doug

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 9:03:03 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:

> Thanks, Doug. Great to hear! 
>
> Forgive me for asking what might be obvious: where exactly did you apply 
> the Loctite? And how did you gauge the degree of tightness when you screwed 
> the shifter back together? 
>
> Thanks again. 
>
> On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 8:11:58 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>> I pulled the shifter bolt and applied blue Loctite thread-locker, 
>> reinstalled, and let it dry for a day. I've ridden three times since then 
>> and haven't experienced any slippage. With this fix the Silver2 shifter is 
>> great! Friction shifting is working well for me. 
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I now have several hundred miles on my Clem Smith Jr so wanted to share 
>>> some thoughts. I feel like I'm cruising around when I ride so I call it my 
>>> Clem Cruiser, or CeeCee for short. I've never named a bike but CeeCee may 
>>> work. Is it fast or slow? Those aren't the right questions to ponder. Am I 
>>> faster or slower on the Clem as compared to other bikes I've ridden? It 
>>> doesn't feel like it and I don't care! I'm amazed at how it tracks up hills 
>>> with ease. I sit upright and enjoy the scenery which gives me a greater 
>>> degree of feeling safe as well.  I'm really happy with how the Clem rides 
>>> on asphalt, dirt or gravel.
>>>
>>> I recently had Rich build a dynamo wheel for me as I had never used 
>>> dynamo but wanted to give it a shot. I'm hooked. I don't feel any drag from 
>>> the hub and not having to worry about recharging lights frees my mind for 
>>> other thoughts. The wheel is a Velocity Cliffhanger 32 spokes with a Kasai 
>>> hub. My rear wheel is still the stock Alex 36 spoke with an unbranded hub. 
>>> The mismatched wheels are kinda cool and Clem-like I think. 
>>>
>>> My pedals are One Up aluminum platform pedals that are large and grippy. 
>>> They are perfect for the Clem and my big ole feet. I rode today wearing my 
>>> Merrell sandals and the pedals gave plenty of support and grip. Speaking of 
>>> grip, I really like the Ergon Biokork grips.  
>>>
>>> I wrapped Newbaum cloth tape on my chainstay  as a protector even though 
>>> it already had a clear one...I like the looks of it. I've put two stickers 
>>> on it and ordered a couple from Path Less Pedaled to sticker it up a little 
>>> more. This is a fun bike to ride and tinker with for sure.
>>>
>>> I'm digging friction shifting but I have gotten slippage from the 
>>> Silver2 shifter. The bolt comes loose and my gears slip at times. I guess I 
>>> need to find just the right tension but it is a little frustrating. Should 
>>> I use thread-locker? Anyone else had this issue?
>>>
>>> All in all the Clem is a well-designed bicycle that rides so nice on any 
>>> surface. Just Ride.
>>>
>>> Here is a link to some photos if you are interested Clem Cruiser 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Doug
>>> Athens, GA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[J J]

Thanks, Doug. Great to hear! 

Forgive me for asking what might be obvious: where exactly did you apply 
the Loctite? And how did you gauge the degree of tightness when you screwed 
the shifter back together? 

Thanks again. 

On Sunday, June 5, 2022 at 8:11:58 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> Hello all,
> I pulled the shifter bolt and applied blue Loctite thread-locker, 
> reinstalled, and let it dry for a day. I've ridden three times since then 
> and haven't experienced any slippage. With this fix the Silver2 shifter is 
> great! Friction shifting is working well for me. 
> Doug
>
> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I now have several hundred miles on my Clem Smith Jr so wanted to share 
>> some thoughts. I feel like I'm cruising around when I ride so I call it my 
>> Clem Cruiser, or CeeCee for short. I've never named a bike but CeeCee may 
>> work. Is it fast or slow? Those aren't the right questions to ponder. Am I 
>> faster or slower on the Clem as compared to other bikes I've ridden? It 
>> doesn't feel like it and I don't care! I'm amazed at how it tracks up hills 
>> with ease. I sit upright and enjoy the scenery which gives me a greater 
>> degree of feeling safe as well.  I'm really happy with how the Clem rides 
>> on asphalt, dirt or gravel.
>>
>> I recently had Rich build a dynamo wheel for me as I had never used 
>> dynamo but wanted to give it a shot. I'm hooked. I don't feel any drag from 
>> the hub and not having to worry about recharging lights frees my mind for 
>> other thoughts. The wheel is a Velocity Cliffhanger 32 spokes with a Kasai 
>> hub. My rear wheel is still the stock Alex 36 spoke with an unbranded hub. 
>> The mismatched wheels are kinda cool and Clem-like I think. 
>>
>> My pedals are One Up aluminum platform pedals that are large and grippy. 
>> They are perfect for the Clem and my big ole feet. I rode today wearing my 
>> Merrell sandals and the pedals gave plenty of support and grip. Speaking of 
>> grip, I really like the Ergon Biokork grips.  
>>
>> I wrapped Newbaum cloth tape on my chainstay  as a protector even though 
>> it already had a clear one...I like the looks of it. I've put two stickers 
>> on it and ordered a couple from Path Less Pedaled to sticker it up a little 
>> more. This is a fun bike to ride and tinker with for sure.
>>
>> I'm digging friction shifting but I have gotten slippage from the Silver2 
>> shifter. The bolt comes loose and my gears slip at times. I guess I need to 
>> find just the right tension but it is a little frustrating. Should I use 
>> thread-locker? Anyone else had this issue?
>>
>> All in all the Clem is a well-designed bicycle that rides so nice on any 
>> surface. Just Ride.
>>
>> Here is a link to some photos if you are interested Clem Cruiser 
>> 
>>
>> Doug
>> Athens, GA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[Doug H.]

Hello all,
I pulled the shifter bolt and applied blue Loctite thread-locker, 
reinstalled, and let it dry for a day. I've ridden three times since then 
and haven't experienced any slippage. With this fix the Silver2 shifter is 
great! Friction shifting is working well for me. 
Doug

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I now have several hundred miles on my Clem Smith Jr so wanted to share 
> some thoughts. I feel like I'm cruising around when I ride so I call it my 
> Clem Cruiser, or CeeCee for short. I've never named a bike but CeeCee may 
> work. Is it fast or slow? Those aren't the right questions to ponder. Am I 
> faster or slower on the Clem as compared to other bikes I've ridden? It 
> doesn't feel like it and I don't care! I'm amazed at how it tracks up hills 
> with ease. I sit upright and enjoy the scenery which gives me a greater 
> degree of feeling safe as well.  I'm really happy with how the Clem rides 
> on asphalt, dirt or gravel.
>
> I recently had Rich build a dynamo wheel for me as I had never used dynamo 
> but wanted to give it a shot. I'm hooked. I don't feel any drag from the 
> hub and not having to worry about recharging lights frees my mind for other 
> thoughts. The wheel is a Velocity Cliffhanger 32 spokes with a Kasai hub. 
> My rear wheel is still the stock Alex 36 spoke with an unbranded hub. The 
> mismatched wheels are kinda cool and Clem-like I think. 
>
> My pedals are One Up aluminum platform pedals that are large and grippy. 
> They are perfect for the Clem and my big ole feet. I rode today wearing my 
> Merrell sandals and the pedals gave plenty of support and grip. Speaking of 
> grip, I really like the Ergon Biokork grips.  
>
> I wrapped Newbaum cloth tape on my chainstay  as a protector even though 
> it already had a clear one...I like the looks of it. I've put two stickers 
> on it and ordered a couple from Path Less Pedaled to sticker it up a little 
> more. This is a fun bike to ride and tinker with for sure.
>
> I'm digging friction shifting but I have gotten slippage from the Silver2 
> shifter. The bolt comes loose and my gears slip at times. I guess I need to 
> find just the right tension but it is a little frustrating. Should I use 
> thread-locker? Anyone else had this issue?
>
> All in all the Clem is a well-designed bicycle that rides so nice on any 
> surface. Just Ride.
>
> Here is a link to some photos if you are interested Clem Cruiser 
> 
>
> Doug
> Athens, GA
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[Patrick Moore]

Blue.

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On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 10:30 AM J J  wrote:

> ... Which loc tite [Loctite] variety do you suggest for the shifters?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[Wesley]

Use blue Loctite.

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:30:54 AM UTC-7 J J wrote:

> Thanks for the recommendations, all. Which loc tite variety do you suggest 
> for the shifters?
>
> @Mackenzy, I’ve experienced the same slippage with a NOS Rapid Rise RD and 
> a modern, new high normal RD. In both cases it was with the same new 
> shifter cables, liners, and housing, and new chainrings, cassette, and 
> chain. I’m looking forward to trying loc tite. 
>
> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 11:58:55 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> This is good info. I don’t mind needing to use loc-tite because the 
>> shifter is smooth and looks good. But, maybe Riv should make this a 
>> recommendation or pre install it on the bolt. I’ll try it and report back. 
>> Doug
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 31, 2022, at 11:24 AM, Mackenzy Albright  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I installed a suntour barcon on my clem build with an ALTUS rear dr. Not 
>> sure if it's a stronger modern spring but find it's slipping more than 
>> normal. I previously had it paired with an older generation XTR reverse 
>> rapid rise which worked fine. But I think the reverse rapid rise has less 
>> return tension. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:06:24 AM UTC-6 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Doug, you're likely already aware that there's different levels of 
>>> loc-tite, but just make sure you use the less permanent option on those 
>>> shifters of yours.
>>> Happy shifting!
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:38:46 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 I was just looking at shifters on the Rivendell website and found this 
 blurb in the description of the wing bolts that can replace the d-ring 
 bolt 
 that comes with the Silver2 shifter... "*Put some loc-tite on them and 
 you'll likely never have to mess with them. If your shifter loses a little 
 tension, turn it at the next stop or even while you're riding, if you're 
 careful."  *So, I think I will try a little loc-tite on the bolt to 
 see if that helps with slippage.
 Doug 


 On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:08:03 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Man, I grew up with friction shifters & have been yearning for the 
> Silver shifters to replace my Microshift units that came on the bike. But 
> these things work flawlessly & I’d forgotten about “slippage”. I think I 
> shall resist the nostalgic trip down memory lane and save $170.00!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 30, 2022, at 8:50 PM, J J  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi Doug, thanks for the nice write up. CeeCee looks great!
>
> About the Silver2 shifters: I’ve had the same problem of gears 
> slipping. I find that I have to tighten the D ring screw so much to 
> prevent 
> slipping that it makes it hard to move the shift levers. I haven’t 
> thought 
> of using thread lock. I’ve just kind of accepted the slipping as reality 
> for these shifters. It seems like I constantly have to fiddle with them. 
>
> I’d love to hear suggestions from anyone else who might be reading 
> this. I prefer friction shifting. But the slipping with these brand new 
> Silver2s has me considering index shifting for the first time. Grant says 
> these are the best shifters in the world. If these are the best….surely 
> they should not slip?? 
>
> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I now have several hundred miles on my Clem Smith Jr so wanted to 
>> share some thoughts. I feel like I'm cruising around when I ride so I 
>> call 
>> it my Clem Cruiser, or CeeCee for short. I've never named a bike but 
>> CeeCee 
>> may work. Is it fast or slow? Those aren't the right questions to 
>> ponder. 
>> Am I faster or slower on the Clem as compared to other bikes I've 
>> ridden? 
>> It doesn't feel like it and I don't care! I'm amazed at how it tracks up 
>> hills with ease. I sit upright and enjoy the scenery which gives me a 
>> greater degree of feeling safe as well.  I'm really happy with how the 
>> Clem 
>> rides on asphalt, dirt or gravel.
>>
>> I recently had Rich build a dynamo wheel for me as I had never used 
>> dynamo but wanted to give it a shot. I'm hooked. I don't feel any drag 
>> from 
>> the hub and not having to worry about recharging lights frees my mind 
>> for 
>> other thoughts. The wheel is a Velocity Cliffhanger 32 spokes with a 
>> Kasai 
>> hub. My rear wheel is still the stock Alex 36 spoke with an unbranded 
>> hub. 
>> The mismatched wheels are kinda cool and Clem-like I think. 
>>
>> My pedals are One Up aluminum platform pedals that are large and 
>> grippy. They are perfect for the Clem and my big ole feet. I rode today 
>> wearing my Merrell sandals and the pedals gave plenty of support and 
>> grip. 
>> Speaking of grip, I 

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[J J]

Thanks for the recommendations, all. Which loc tite variety do you suggest 
for the shifters?

@Mackenzy, I’ve experienced the same slippage with a NOS Rapid Rise RD and 
a modern, new high normal RD. In both cases it was with the same new 
shifter cables, liners, and housing, and new chainrings, cassette, and 
chain. I’m looking forward to trying loc tite. 

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 11:58:55 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> This is good info. I don’t mind needing to use loc-tite because the 
> shifter is smooth and looks good. But, maybe Riv should make this a 
> recommendation or pre install it on the bolt. I’ll try it and report back. 
> Doug
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 31, 2022, at 11:24 AM, Mackenzy Albright  
> wrote:
>
> I installed a suntour barcon on my clem build with an ALTUS rear dr. Not 
> sure if it's a stronger modern spring but find it's slipping more than 
> normal. I previously had it paired with an older generation XTR reverse 
> rapid rise which worked fine. But I think the reverse rapid rise has less 
> return tension. 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:06:24 AM UTC-6 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>
>> Doug, you're likely already aware that there's different levels of 
>> loc-tite, but just make sure you use the less permanent option on those 
>> shifters of yours.
>> Happy shifting!
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:38:46 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I was just looking at shifters on the Rivendell website and found this 
>>> blurb in the description of the wing bolts that can replace the d-ring bolt 
>>> that comes with the Silver2 shifter... "*Put some loc-tite on them and 
>>> you'll likely never have to mess with them. If your shifter loses a little 
>>> tension, turn it at the next stop or even while you're riding, if you're 
>>> careful."  *So, I think I will try a little loc-tite on the bolt to see 
>>> if that helps with slippage.
>>> Doug 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:08:03 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Man, I grew up with friction shifters & have been yearning for the 
 Silver shifters to replace my Microshift units that came on the bike. But 
 these things work flawlessly & I’d forgotten about “slippage”. I think I 
 shall resist the nostalgic trip down memory lane and save $170.00!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 30, 2022, at 8:50 PM, J J  wrote:

 

 Hi Doug, thanks for the nice write up. CeeCee looks great!

 About the Silver2 shifters: I’ve had the same problem of gears 
 slipping. I find that I have to tighten the D ring screw so much to 
 prevent 
 slipping that it makes it hard to move the shift levers. I haven’t thought 
 of using thread lock. I’ve just kind of accepted the slipping as reality 
 for these shifters. It seems like I constantly have to fiddle with them. 

 I’d love to hear suggestions from anyone else who might be reading 
 this. I prefer friction shifting. But the slipping with these brand new 
 Silver2s has me considering index shifting for the first time. Grant says 
 these are the best shifters in the world. If these are the best….surely 
 they should not slip?? 

 On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I now have several hundred miles on my Clem Smith Jr so wanted to 
> share some thoughts. I feel like I'm cruising around when I ride so I 
> call 
> it my Clem Cruiser, or CeeCee for short. I've never named a bike but 
> CeeCee 
> may work. Is it fast or slow? Those aren't the right questions to ponder. 
> Am I faster or slower on the Clem as compared to other bikes I've ridden? 
> It doesn't feel like it and I don't care! I'm amazed at how it tracks up 
> hills with ease. I sit upright and enjoy the scenery which gives me a 
> greater degree of feeling safe as well.  I'm really happy with how the 
> Clem 
> rides on asphalt, dirt or gravel.
>
> I recently had Rich build a dynamo wheel for me as I had never used 
> dynamo but wanted to give it a shot. I'm hooked. I don't feel any drag 
> from 
> the hub and not having to worry about recharging lights frees my mind for 
> other thoughts. The wheel is a Velocity Cliffhanger 32 spokes with a 
> Kasai 
> hub. My rear wheel is still the stock Alex 36 spoke with an unbranded 
> hub. 
> The mismatched wheels are kinda cool and Clem-like I think. 
>
> My pedals are One Up aluminum platform pedals that are large and 
> grippy. They are perfect for the Clem and my big ole feet. I rode today 
> wearing my Merrell sandals and the pedals gave plenty of support and 
> grip. 
> Speaking of grip, I really like the Ergon Biokork grips.  
>
> I wrapped Newbaum cloth tape on my chainstay  as a protector even 
> though it already had a clear one...I like the looks of it. I've put two 
> stickers on it and ordered a 

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[Doug Hansford]

This is good info. I don’t mind needing to use loc-tite because the shifter is 
smooth and looks good. But, maybe Riv should make this a recommendation or pre 
install it on the bolt. I’ll try it and report back. 
Doug

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2022, at 11:24 AM, Mackenzy Albright  
> wrote:
> 
> I installed a suntour barcon on my clem build with an ALTUS rear dr. Not 
> sure if it's a stronger modern spring but find it's slipping more than 
> normal. I previously had it paired with an older generation XTR reverse rapid 
> rise which worked fine. But I think the reverse rapid rise has less return 
> tension. 
> 
>> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:06:24 AM UTC-6 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>> Doug, you're likely already aware that there's different levels of loc-tite, 
>> but just make sure you use the less permanent option on those shifters of 
>> yours.
>> Happy shifting!
>> -Kai
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:38:46 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>> I was just looking at shifters on the Rivendell website and found this 
>>> blurb in the description of the wing bolts that can replace the d-ring bolt 
>>> that comes with the Silver2 shifter... "Put some loc-tite on them and 
>>> you'll likely never have to mess with them. If your shifter loses a little 
>>> tension, turn it at the next stop or even while you're riding, if you're 
>>> careful."  So, I think I will try a little loc-tite on the bolt to see if 
>>> that helps with slippage.
>>> Doug 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:08:03 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
 Man, I grew up with friction shifters & have been yearning for the Silver 
 shifters to replace my Microshift units that came on the bike. But these 
 things work flawlessly & I’d forgotten about “slippage”. I think I shall 
 resist the nostalgic trip down memory lane and save $170.00!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On May 30, 2022, at 8:50 PM, J J  wrote:
>> 
> 
 
> Hi Doug, thanks for the nice write up. CeeCee looks great!
> 
> About the Silver2 shifters: I’ve had the same problem of gears slipping. 
> I find that I have to tighten the D ring screw so much to prevent 
> slipping that it makes it hard to move the shift levers. I haven’t 
> thought of using thread lock. I’ve just kind of accepted the slipping as 
> reality for these shifters. It seems like I constantly have to fiddle 
> with them. 
> 
> I’d love to hear suggestions from anyone else who might be reading this. 
> I prefer friction shifting. But the slipping with these brand new 
> Silver2s has me considering index shifting for the first time. Grant says 
> these are the best shifters in the world. If these are the best….surely 
> they should not slip?? 
> 
>>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>> I now have several hundred miles on my Clem Smith Jr so wanted to share 
>>> some thoughts. I feel like I'm cruising around when I ride so I call it 
>>> my Clem Cruiser, or CeeCee for short. I've never named a bike but 
>>> CeeCee may work. Is it fast or slow? Those aren't the right questions 
>>> to ponder. Am I faster or slower on the Clem as compared to other bikes 
>>> I've ridden? It doesn't feel like it and I don't care! I'm amazed at 
>>> how it tracks up hills with ease. I sit upright and enjoy the scenery 
>>> which gives me a greater degree of feeling safe as well.  I'm really 
>>> happy with how the Clem rides on asphalt, dirt or gravel.
>>> 
>>> I recently had Rich build a dynamo wheel for me as I had never used 
>>> dynamo but wanted to give it a shot. I'm hooked. I don't feel any drag 
>>> from the hub and not having to worry about recharging lights frees my 
>>> mind for other thoughts. The wheel is a Velocity Cliffhanger 32 spokes 
>>> with a Kasai hub. My rear wheel is still the stock Alex 36 spoke with 
>>> an unbranded hub. The mismatched wheels are kinda cool and Clem-like I 
>>> think. 
>>> 
>>> My pedals are One Up aluminum platform pedals that are large and 
>>> grippy. They are perfect for the Clem and my big ole feet. I rode today 
>>> wearing my Merrell sandals and the pedals gave plenty of support and 
>>> grip. Speaking of grip, I really like the Ergon Biokork grips.  
>>> 
>>> I wrapped Newbaum cloth tape on my chainstay  as a protector even 
>>> though it already had a clear one...I like the looks of it. I've put 
>>> two stickers on it and ordered a couple from Path Less Pedaled to 
>>> sticker it up a little more. This is a fun bike to ride and tinker with 
>>> for sure.
>>> 
>>> I'm digging friction shifting but I have gotten slippage from the 
>>> Silver2 shifter. The bolt comes loose and my gears slip at times. I 
>>> guess I need to find just the right tension but it is a little 
>>> frustrating. Should I use 

Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[Mackenzy Albright]

I installed a suntour barcon on my clem build with an ALTUS rear dr. Not 
sure if it's a stronger modern spring but find it's slipping more than 
normal. I previously had it paired with an older generation XTR reverse 
rapid rise which worked fine. But I think the reverse rapid rise has less 
return tension. 

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:06:24 AM UTC-6 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote:

> Doug, you're likely already aware that there's different levels of 
> loc-tite, but just make sure you use the less permanent option on those 
> shifters of yours.
> Happy shifting!
> -Kai
>
> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:38:46 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I was just looking at shifters on the Rivendell website and found this 
>> blurb in the description of the wing bolts that can replace the d-ring bolt 
>> that comes with the Silver2 shifter... "*Put some loc-tite on them and 
>> you'll likely never have to mess with them. If your shifter loses a little 
>> tension, turn it at the next stop or even while you're riding, if you're 
>> careful."  *So, I think I will try a little loc-tite on the bolt to see 
>> if that helps with slippage.
>> Doug 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:08:03 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Man, I grew up with friction shifters & have been yearning for the 
>>> Silver shifters to replace my Microshift units that came on the bike. But 
>>> these things work flawlessly & I’d forgotten about “slippage”. I think I 
>>> shall resist the nostalgic trip down memory lane and save $170.00!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 30, 2022, at 8:50 PM, J J  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Hi Doug, thanks for the nice write up. CeeCee looks great!
>>>
>>> About the Silver2 shifters: I’ve had the same problem of gears slipping. 
>>> I find that I have to tighten the D ring screw so much to prevent slipping 
>>> that it makes it hard to move the shift levers. I haven’t thought of using 
>>> thread lock. I’ve just kind of accepted the slipping as reality for these 
>>> shifters. It seems like I constantly have to fiddle with them. 
>>>
>>> I’d love to hear suggestions from anyone else who might be reading this. 
>>> I prefer friction shifting. But the slipping with these brand new Silver2s 
>>> has me considering index shifting for the first time. Grant says these are 
>>> the best shifters in the world. If these are the best….surely they should 
>>> not slip?? 
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 I now have several hundred miles on my Clem Smith Jr so wanted to share 
 some thoughts. I feel like I'm cruising around when I ride so I call it my 
 Clem Cruiser, or CeeCee for short. I've never named a bike but CeeCee may 
 work. Is it fast or slow? Those aren't the right questions to ponder. Am I 
 faster or slower on the Clem as compared to other bikes I've ridden? It 
 doesn't feel like it and I don't care! I'm amazed at how it tracks up 
 hills 
 with ease. I sit upright and enjoy the scenery which gives me a greater 
 degree of feeling safe as well.  I'm really happy with how the Clem rides 
 on asphalt, dirt or gravel.

 I recently had Rich build a dynamo wheel for me as I had never used 
 dynamo but wanted to give it a shot. I'm hooked. I don't feel any drag 
 from 
 the hub and not having to worry about recharging lights frees my mind for 
 other thoughts. The wheel is a Velocity Cliffhanger 32 spokes with a Kasai 
 hub. My rear wheel is still the stock Alex 36 spoke with an unbranded hub. 
 The mismatched wheels are kinda cool and Clem-like I think. 

 My pedals are One Up aluminum platform pedals that are large and 
 grippy. They are perfect for the Clem and my big ole feet. I rode today 
 wearing my Merrell sandals and the pedals gave plenty of support and grip. 
 Speaking of grip, I really like the Ergon Biokork grips.  

 I wrapped Newbaum cloth tape on my chainstay  as a protector even 
 though it already had a clear one...I like the looks of it. I've put two 
 stickers on it and ordered a couple from Path Less Pedaled to sticker it 
 up 
 a little more. This is a fun bike to ride and tinker with for sure.

 I'm digging friction shifting but I have gotten slippage from the 
 Silver2 shifter. The bolt comes loose and my gears slip at times. I guess 
 I 
 need to find just the right tension but it is a little frustrating. Should 
 I use thread-locker? Anyone else had this issue?

 All in all the Clem is a well-designed bicycle that rides so nice on 
 any surface. Just Ride.

 Here is a link to some photos if you are interested Clem Cruiser 
 

 Doug
 Athens, GA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[Patrick Moore]

I used several pairs of the first-gen Silver bar end shifters extensively
and always ended up putting blue Loctite on the mounting bolts to prevent
loosening. I daresay beeswax would work too.

Silvers are hardly the only shifters that require this treatment, IME.

Patrick Moore, currently using Suntour Barcons ... with blue Loctite, in
ABQ, NM


On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 7:08 AM Richard Rose  wrote:

> Man, I grew up with friction shifters & have been yearning for the Silver
> shifters to replace my Microshift units that came on the bike. But these
> things work flawlessly & I’d forgotten about “slippage”. I think I shall
> resist the nostalgic trip down memory lane and save $170.00!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 30, 2022, at 8:50 PM, J J  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Doug, thanks for the nice write up. CeeCee looks great!
>
> About the Silver2 shifters: I’ve had the same problem of gears slipping. I
> find that I have to tighten the D ring screw so much to prevent slipping
> that it makes it hard to move the shift levers. I haven’t thought of using
> thread lock. I’ve just kind of accepted the slipping as reality for these
> shifters. It seems like I constantly have to fiddle with them.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Doug, you're likely already aware that there's different levels of 
loc-tite, but just make sure you use the less permanent option on those 
shifters of yours.
Happy shifting!
-Kai

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:38:46 AM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I was just looking at shifters on the Rivendell website and found this 
> blurb in the description of the wing bolts that can replace the d-ring bolt 
> that comes with the Silver2 shifter... "*Put some loc-tite on them and 
> you'll likely never have to mess with them. If your shifter loses a little 
> tension, turn it at the next stop or even while you're riding, if you're 
> careful."  *So, I think I will try a little loc-tite on the bolt to see 
> if that helps with slippage.
> Doug 
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:08:03 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Man, I grew up with friction shifters & have been yearning for the Silver 
>> shifters to replace my Microshift units that came on the bike. But these 
>> things work flawlessly & I’d forgotten about “slippage”. I think I shall 
>> resist the nostalgic trip down memory lane and save $170.00!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 30, 2022, at 8:50 PM, J J  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi Doug, thanks for the nice write up. CeeCee looks great!
>>
>> About the Silver2 shifters: I’ve had the same problem of gears slipping. 
>> I find that I have to tighten the D ring screw so much to prevent slipping 
>> that it makes it hard to move the shift levers. I haven’t thought of using 
>> thread lock. I’ve just kind of accepted the slipping as reality for these 
>> shifters. It seems like I constantly have to fiddle with them. 
>>
>> I’d love to hear suggestions from anyone else who might be reading this. 
>> I prefer friction shifting. But the slipping with these brand new Silver2s 
>> has me considering index shifting for the first time. Grant says these are 
>> the best shifters in the world. If these are the best….surely they should 
>> not slip?? 
>>
>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> I now have several hundred miles on my Clem Smith Jr so wanted to share 
>>> some thoughts. I feel like I'm cruising around when I ride so I call it my 
>>> Clem Cruiser, or CeeCee for short. I've never named a bike but CeeCee may 
>>> work. Is it fast or slow? Those aren't the right questions to ponder. Am I 
>>> faster or slower on the Clem as compared to other bikes I've ridden? It 
>>> doesn't feel like it and I don't care! I'm amazed at how it tracks up hills 
>>> with ease. I sit upright and enjoy the scenery which gives me a greater 
>>> degree of feeling safe as well.  I'm really happy with how the Clem rides 
>>> on asphalt, dirt or gravel.
>>>
>>> I recently had Rich build a dynamo wheel for me as I had never used 
>>> dynamo but wanted to give it a shot. I'm hooked. I don't feel any drag from 
>>> the hub and not having to worry about recharging lights frees my mind for 
>>> other thoughts. The wheel is a Velocity Cliffhanger 32 spokes with a Kasai 
>>> hub. My rear wheel is still the stock Alex 36 spoke with an unbranded hub. 
>>> The mismatched wheels are kinda cool and Clem-like I think. 
>>>
>>> My pedals are One Up aluminum platform pedals that are large and grippy. 
>>> They are perfect for the Clem and my big ole feet. I rode today wearing my 
>>> Merrell sandals and the pedals gave plenty of support and grip. Speaking of 
>>> grip, I really like the Ergon Biokork grips.  
>>>
>>> I wrapped Newbaum cloth tape on my chainstay  as a protector even though 
>>> it already had a clear one...I like the looks of it. I've put two stickers 
>>> on it and ordered a couple from Path Less Pedaled to sticker it up a little 
>>> more. This is a fun bike to ride and tinker with for sure.
>>>
>>> I'm digging friction shifting but I have gotten slippage from the 
>>> Silver2 shifter. The bolt comes loose and my gears slip at times. I guess I 
>>> need to find just the right tension but it is a little frustrating. Should 
>>> I use thread-locker? Anyone else had this issue?
>>>
>>> All in all the Clem is a well-designed bicycle that rides so nice on any 
>>> surface. Just Ride.
>>>
>>> Here is a link to some photos if you are interested Clem Cruiser 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Doug
>>> Athens, GA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[Doug H.]

I was just looking at shifters on the Rivendell website and found this 
blurb in the description of the wing bolts that can replace the d-ring bolt 
that comes with the Silver2 shifter... "*Put some loc-tite on them and 
you'll likely never have to mess with them. If your shifter loses a little 
tension, turn it at the next stop or even while you're riding, if you're 
careful."  *So, I think I will try a little loc-tite on the bolt to see if 
that helps with slippage.
Doug 


On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 9:08:03 AM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Man, I grew up with friction shifters & have been yearning for the Silver 
> shifters to replace my Microshift units that came on the bike. But these 
> things work flawlessly & I’d forgotten about “slippage”. I think I shall 
> resist the nostalgic trip down memory lane and save $170.00!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 30, 2022, at 8:50 PM, J J  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi Doug, thanks for the nice write up. CeeCee looks great!
>
> About the Silver2 shifters: I’ve had the same problem of gears slipping. I 
> find that I have to tighten the D ring screw so much to prevent slipping 
> that it makes it hard to move the shift levers. I haven’t thought of using 
> thread lock. I’ve just kind of accepted the slipping as reality for these 
> shifters. It seems like I constantly have to fiddle with them. 
>
> I’d love to hear suggestions from anyone else who might be reading this. I 
> prefer friction shifting. But the slipping with these brand new Silver2s 
> has me considering index shifting for the first time. Grant says these are 
> the best shifters in the world. If these are the best….surely they should 
> not slip?? 
>
> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I now have several hundred miles on my Clem Smith Jr so wanted to share 
>> some thoughts. I feel like I'm cruising around when I ride so I call it my 
>> Clem Cruiser, or CeeCee for short. I've never named a bike but CeeCee may 
>> work. Is it fast or slow? Those aren't the right questions to ponder. Am I 
>> faster or slower on the Clem as compared to other bikes I've ridden? It 
>> doesn't feel like it and I don't care! I'm amazed at how it tracks up hills 
>> with ease. I sit upright and enjoy the scenery which gives me a greater 
>> degree of feeling safe as well.  I'm really happy with how the Clem rides 
>> on asphalt, dirt or gravel.
>>
>> I recently had Rich build a dynamo wheel for me as I had never used 
>> dynamo but wanted to give it a shot. I'm hooked. I don't feel any drag from 
>> the hub and not having to worry about recharging lights frees my mind for 
>> other thoughts. The wheel is a Velocity Cliffhanger 32 spokes with a Kasai 
>> hub. My rear wheel is still the stock Alex 36 spoke with an unbranded hub. 
>> The mismatched wheels are kinda cool and Clem-like I think. 
>>
>> My pedals are One Up aluminum platform pedals that are large and grippy. 
>> They are perfect for the Clem and my big ole feet. I rode today wearing my 
>> Merrell sandals and the pedals gave plenty of support and grip. Speaking of 
>> grip, I really like the Ergon Biokork grips.  
>>
>> I wrapped Newbaum cloth tape on my chainstay  as a protector even though 
>> it already had a clear one...I like the looks of it. I've put two stickers 
>> on it and ordered a couple from Path Less Pedaled to sticker it up a little 
>> more. This is a fun bike to ride and tinker with for sure.
>>
>> I'm digging friction shifting but I have gotten slippage from the Silver2 
>> shifter. The bolt comes loose and my gears slip at times. I guess I need to 
>> find just the right tension but it is a little frustrating. Should I use 
>> thread-locker? Anyone else had this issue?
>>
>> All in all the Clem is a well-designed bicycle that rides so nice on any 
>> surface. Just Ride.
>>
>> Here is a link to some photos if you are interested Clem Cruiser 
>> 
>>
>> Doug
>> Athens, GA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[Richard Rose]

Man, I grew up with friction shifters & have been yearning for the Silver 
shifters to replace my Microshift units that came on the bike. But these things 
work flawlessly & I’d forgotten about “slippage”. I think I shall resist the 
nostalgic trip down memory lane and save $170.00!

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 30, 2022, at 8:50 PM, J J  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Doug, thanks for the nice write up. CeeCee looks great!
> 
> About the Silver2 shifters: I’ve had the same problem of gears slipping. I 
> find that I have to tighten the D ring screw so much to prevent slipping that 
> it makes it hard to move the shift levers. I haven’t thought of using thread 
> lock. I’ve just kind of accepted the slipping as reality for these shifters. 
> It seems like I constantly have to fiddle with them. 
> 
> I’d love to hear suggestions from anyone else who might be reading this. I 
> prefer friction shifting. But the slipping with these brand new Silver2s has 
> me considering index shifting for the first time. Grant says these are the 
> best shifters in the world. If these are the best….surely they should not 
> slip?? 
> 
>> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>> I now have several hundred miles on my Clem Smith Jr so wanted to share some 
>> thoughts. I feel like I'm cruising around when I ride so I call it my Clem 
>> Cruiser, or CeeCee for short. I've never named a bike but CeeCee may work. 
>> Is it fast or slow? Those aren't the right questions to ponder. Am I faster 
>> or slower on the Clem as compared to other bikes I've ridden? It doesn't 
>> feel like it and I don't care! I'm amazed at how it tracks up hills with 
>> ease. I sit upright and enjoy the scenery which gives me a greater degree of 
>> feeling safe as well.  I'm really happy with how the Clem rides on asphalt, 
>> dirt or gravel.
>> 
>> I recently had Rich build a dynamo wheel for me as I had never used dynamo 
>> but wanted to give it a shot. I'm hooked. I don't feel any drag from the hub 
>> and not having to worry about recharging lights frees my mind for other 
>> thoughts. The wheel is a Velocity Cliffhanger 32 spokes with a Kasai hub. My 
>> rear wheel is still the stock Alex 36 spoke with an unbranded hub. The 
>> mismatched wheels are kinda cool and Clem-like I think. 
>> 
>> My pedals are One Up aluminum platform pedals that are large and grippy. 
>> They are perfect for the Clem and my big ole feet. I rode today wearing my 
>> Merrell sandals and the pedals gave plenty of support and grip. Speaking of 
>> grip, I really like the Ergon Biokork grips.  
>> 
>> I wrapped Newbaum cloth tape on my chainstay  as a protector even though it 
>> already had a clear one...I like the looks of it. I've put two stickers on 
>> it and ordered a couple from Path Less Pedaled to sticker it up a little 
>> more. This is a fun bike to ride and tinker with for sure.
>> 
>> I'm digging friction shifting but I have gotten slippage from the Silver2 
>> shifter. The bolt comes loose and my gears slip at times. I guess I need to 
>> find just the right tension but it is a little frustrating. Should I use 
>> thread-locker? Anyone else had this issue?
>> 
>> All in all the Clem is a well-designed bicycle that rides so nice on any 
>> surface. Just Ride.
>> 
>> Here is a link to some photos if you are interested Clem Cruiser
>> 
>> Doug
>> Athens, GA
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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[J J]

Hi Doug, thanks for the nice write up. CeeCee looks great!

About the Silver2 shifters: I’ve had the same problem of gears slipping. I 
find that I have to tighten the D ring screw so much to prevent slipping 
that it makes it hard to move the shift levers. I haven’t thought of using 
thread lock. I’ve just kind of accepted the slipping as reality for these 
shifters. It seems like I constantly have to fiddle with them. 

I’d love to hear suggestions from anyone else who might be reading this. I 
prefer friction shifting. But the slipping with these brand new Silver2s 
has me considering index shifting for the first time. Grant says these are 
the best shifters in the world. If these are the best….surely they should 
not slip?? 

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I now have several hundred miles on my Clem Smith Jr so wanted to share 
> some thoughts. I feel like I'm cruising around when I ride so I call it my 
> Clem Cruiser, or CeeCee for short. I've never named a bike but CeeCee may 
> work. Is it fast or slow? Those aren't the right questions to ponder. Am I 
> faster or slower on the Clem as compared to other bikes I've ridden? It 
> doesn't feel like it and I don't care! I'm amazed at how it tracks up hills 
> with ease. I sit upright and enjoy the scenery which gives me a greater 
> degree of feeling safe as well.  I'm really happy with how the Clem rides 
> on asphalt, dirt or gravel.
>
> I recently had Rich build a dynamo wheel for me as I had never used dynamo 
> but wanted to give it a shot. I'm hooked. I don't feel any drag from the 
> hub and not having to worry about recharging lights frees my mind for other 
> thoughts. The wheel is a Velocity Cliffhanger 32 spokes with a Kasai hub. 
> My rear wheel is still the stock Alex 36 spoke with an unbranded hub. The 
> mismatched wheels are kinda cool and Clem-like I think. 
>
> My pedals are One Up aluminum platform pedals that are large and grippy. 
> They are perfect for the Clem and my big ole feet. I rode today wearing my 
> Merrell sandals and the pedals gave plenty of support and grip. Speaking of 
> grip, I really like the Ergon Biokork grips.  
>
> I wrapped Newbaum cloth tape on my chainstay  as a protector even though 
> it already had a clear one...I like the looks of it. I've put two stickers 
> on it and ordered a couple from Path Less Pedaled to sticker it up a little 
> more. This is a fun bike to ride and tinker with for sure.
>
> I'm digging friction shifting but I have gotten slippage from the Silver2 
> shifter. The bolt comes loose and my gears slip at times. I guess I need to 
> find just the right tension but it is a little frustrating. Should I use 
> thread-locker? Anyone else had this issue?
>
> All in all the Clem is a well-designed bicycle that rides so nice on any 
> surface. Just Ride.
>
> Here is a link to some photos if you are interested Clem Cruiser 
> 
>
> Doug
> Athens, GA
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr Update

[Johnny Alien]

Nice Doug! I am not sure if I have seen photos of the second Clem! I am 
going to give those grips a chance I think. I have used other Ergon grips 
and liked them.

On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 4:14:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> I now have several hundred miles on my Clem Smith Jr so wanted to share 
> some thoughts. I feel like I'm cruising around when I ride so I call it my 
> Clem Cruiser, or CeeCee for short. I've never named a bike but CeeCee may 
> work. Is it fast or slow? Those aren't the right questions to ponder. Am I 
> faster or slower on the Clem as compared to other bikes I've ridden? It 
> doesn't feel like it and I don't care! I'm amazed at how it tracks up hills 
> with ease. I sit upright and enjoy the scenery which gives me a greater 
> degree of feeling safe as well.  I'm really happy with how the Clem rides 
> on asphalt, dirt or gravel.
>
> I recently had Rich build a dynamo wheel for me as I had never used dynamo 
> but wanted to give it a shot. I'm hooked. I don't feel any drag from the 
> hub and not having to worry about recharging lights frees my mind for other 
> thoughts. The wheel is a Velocity Cliffhanger 32 spokes with a Kasai hub. 
> My rear wheel is still the stock Alex 36 spoke with an unbranded hub. The 
> mismatched wheels are kinda cool and Clem-like I think. 
>
> My pedals are One Up aluminum platform pedals that are large and grippy. 
> They are perfect for the Clem and my big ole feet. I rode today wearing my 
> Merrell sandals and the pedals gave plenty of support and grip. Speaking of 
> grip, I really like the Ergon Biokork grips.  
>
> I wrapped Newbaum cloth tape on my chainstay  as a protector even though 
> it already had a clear one...I like the looks of it. I've put two stickers 
> on it and ordered a couple from Path Less Pedaled to sticker it up a little 
> more. This is a fun bike to ride and tinker with for sure.
>
> I'm digging friction shifting but I have gotten slippage from the Silver2 
> shifter. The bolt comes loose and my gears slip at times. I guess I need to 
> find just the right tension but it is a little frustrating. Should I use 
> thread-locker? Anyone else had this issue?
>
> All in all the Clem is a well-designed bicycle that rides so nice on any 
> surface. Just Ride.
>
> Here is a link to some photos if you are interested Clem Cruiser 
> 
>
> Doug
> Athens, GA
>

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