[RBW] Re: Daruma Bolt Question

2010-08-03 Thread John McMurry
On Aug 3, 2:01 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 Wondering if anybody else has had this problem with the daruma fork crown 
 bolt that comes with some Honjo fenders.

 Basically, the daruma includes a rubber washer that seals against the bottom 
 of the fork crown; a metal fender washer  sits between the rubber washer 
 and the fender.  After I installed the fenders and got in some miles in the 
 rain, I noticed that the rubber washer was sealing the bottom of the 
 fork crown and preventing water that got in there from draining out.  In  
 fact, the water was migrating upward (the only way it could go, really) and 
 escaping around the stem.

Yeah, this can be a problem with the daruma setup.  I've noticed
increased condensation and surface rust inside the steer tube of bikes
that use this setup (I've since cleaned them thoroughly, sprayed a
rust preventative in the tube, and inspect annually).  Though, I do
think that you have the parts arranged incorrectly, which would
exasperate this issue.

From the fender crown downward, the metal fender washer should be
installed, then the rubber washer, then the fender.  The metal washer
doesn't provide a water tight seal, and therefore allows water/sweat
to drain.

Peter White has an example photo on his website:

http://peterwhitecycles.com/images/products/Accessories/bertffcb.jpg

John McMurry
Burlington, VT

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Re: [RBW] Re: Daruma Bolt Question

2010-08-03 Thread Eric Norris
That's very helpful!  The photo helps a lot--I will reassemble it like that 
before it rains.

--Eric

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On Aug 3, 2010, at 11:30 AM, John McMurry johnmcmu...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Aug 3, 2:01 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 Wondering if anybody else has had this problem with the daruma fork crown 
 bolt that comes with some Honjo fenders.
 
 Basically, the daruma includes a rubber washer that seals against the bottom 
 of the fork crown; a metal fender washer  sits between the rubber 
 washer and the fender.  After I installed the fenders and got in some miles 
 in the rain, I noticed that the rubber washer was sealing the bottom of 
 the fork crown and preventing water that got in there from draining out.  In 
  fact, the water was migrating upward (the only way it could go, really) 
 and escaping around the stem.
 
 Yeah, this can be a problem with the daruma setup.  I've noticed
 increased condensation and surface rust inside the steer tube of bikes
 that use this setup (I've since cleaned them thoroughly, sprayed a
 rust preventative in the tube, and inspect annually).  Though, I do
 think that you have the parts arranged incorrectly, which would
 exasperate this issue.
 
 From the fender crown downward, the metal fender washer should be
 installed, then the rubber washer, then the fender.  The metal washer
 doesn't provide a water tight seal, and therefore allows water/sweat
 to drain.
 
 Peter White has an example photo on his website:
 
 http://peterwhitecycles.com/images/products/Accessories/bertffcb.jpg
 
 John McMurry
 Burlington, VT
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Daruma Bolt Question

2010-08-03 Thread Clayton Scott
I am an idiot. Do not delete the rubber washer.

Here is the setup I meant to write the first time around:
the setup is fork crown, METAL WASHER, rubber washer, fender, small metal
washer, locknut

Sorry to add to the confusion.



On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

 That's very helpful!  The photo helps a lot--I will reassemble it like that
 before it rains.

 --Eric

 Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 3, 2010, at 11:30 AM, John McMurry johnmcmu...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Aug 3, 2:01 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
  Wondering if anybody else has had this problem with the daruma fork
 crown bolt that comes with some Honjo fenders.
 
  Basically, the daruma includes a rubber washer that seals against the
 bottom of the fork crown; a metal fender washer  sits between the
 rubber washer and the fender.  After I installed the fenders and got in some
 miles in the rain, I noticed that the rubber washer was sealing the
 bottom of the fork crown and preventing water that got in there from
 draining out.  In  fact, the water was migrating upward (the only way it
 could go, really) and escaping around the stem.
 
  Yeah, this can be a problem with the daruma setup.  I've noticed
  increased condensation and surface rust inside the steer tube of bikes
  that use this setup (I've since cleaned them thoroughly, sprayed a
  rust preventative in the tube, and inspect annually).  Though, I do
  think that you have the parts arranged incorrectly, which would
  exasperate this issue.
 
  From the fender crown downward, the metal fender washer should be
  installed, then the rubber washer, then the fender.  The metal washer
  doesn't provide a water tight seal, and therefore allows water/sweat
  to drain.
 
  Peter White has an example photo on his website:
 
  http://peterwhitecycles.com/images/products/Accessories/bertffcb.jpg
 
  John McMurry
  Burlington, VT
 
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